For people confused on herb runs, they take 5-10 mins for a chunk of profit, the opportunity cost is 2m gp/hr. You can't get this per hour and you need to do them as they finish growing constantly, sucks but is best money for the time before mid level bosses
I love how nice and enjoyable you sound in this video but when you're on stream and someone asks a question, your mods or you have them banned. I have experienced this first hand. I really enjoyed the video though, hope you keep up the beast youtube vids 👍
@@FinnnAndJakeit doesn’t take you 1 hour to do the herb run tho. after ~10 herb runs, which would take an hour (ignore the part where the herbs grow) you’d have 2 mil.
All the info is correct in this guide, I just feel like min-maxing everything from the start really takes away the magic of the game. I had a ton of fun my first account blundering my way through so much content and just discovering random things along the way. Nothing wrong with it if all you want to do is end game content, but I really think someone's first experience with the game truly feels like an adventure immersed in the world of runescape. And taking away the self exploration and curiosity is doing a disservice for yourself because they are some of my favorite gaming memories. If anyone is new to the game and reads this, consider trying some things blind first! You don't have to do every aspect at max efficiently, but you're more than welcome to if that's your playstyle. Either way I'm sure people will get a lot of good info from the vid, very well put together!
I agree. I feel like the best way to phrase a grind like nex isn't to say "get base gear, do nex until max gear". It's better to say "play the game as you want and do nex when you actually want gp". If you send your average lost rs player into nex for ~100 hours I would with high likelihood guess that they're gonna quit the game. But once they know the game and have the drive and desire to endure then they're ready. Like if I was giving my buddy advise on how to get into the game I wouldn't say get max combat then straight into nex. He would think osrs is a bad game.
I did state in the video that this is how I'd personally play and that you as the player will need to figure out how to balance fun and maxing. I show Hedron in footage because she's actually someone who absolutely WILL NOT quest or do early/mid game content in ANY video game. She purely plays mmos for raiding content only. She didn't play as a kid so she had no ties to OSRS being fun to build or nostalgic. If you want to take your time and chill through the game, that's fine, this still will be relevant for you when you're ready to start pushing for GP and learning how to use Gearscape
@@IamMrSimQnif they are at nex lvl they aren’t quitting lol maybe burn out if it goes like the average experience ie: lose money, die a bunch, get no drops lol
I hate AFK content like NMZ :( When I play a game, I want to be engaged. Gnomonkey is totally right: it's not as efficient, but I personally enjoy leveling combat through PvM and Slayer. Games are meant to be fun at the end of the day! If you are new to RuneScape, the best advice I can give you is to enjoy your time, because you can never get it back. There are many different ways to achieve your goals in OSRS, so if what you are doing is boring you, look around and try something new! Don't let other people bring you down for playing the game how you want to, because they will try. Many people end up treating this game like a job/obligation and resent the time they put into the game, but it doesn't have to be that way. Thanks, Gnomonkey, for the great guide as always.
I'd say do quests and level when necessary or until you get tired of leveling a skill then move on, explore the game, equip goblin mail, get to 75 combats, do Jad, ride that high for a couple months and play mini games, join a social clan, go to a couple house parties, get talked into doing raids, start to care about being bad, git gud, watch Gnomonkey video 👍 You're welcome newcomers
@@offspringfan100 My personal favorite move for new accounts. If you have the money for it is get whatever prayer level you want at the chaos altar is the very first thing you do before you get any other combat levels, keeps you low so you’re not likely to get attacked and you get whatever level you need and not have to come back later.
gnomonkey: you can expect to see a shadow every 565 deathless 300 raids... me: holy that's a lot of raiding i've got to do gnomonkey: i know what you're thinking....holy shit that's low pissed myself laughing at that
same 😂 to be fair, to get a huge item, it is not that bad. once you get used to it. Which can take a few days for some, few hours for others (took me about 25 completions at a lower Invo to get the base raid down.) it is simply time after that. the stress is nowhere near as bad
When I started playing in 2022, your channel was my pvm/skilling bible. I loved learning the way to do the maximum efficient way of bossing, say Zulrah or Vorkath. Then I studied your tob video for weeks before going with clanmates. Then studying your inferno guides. I love everything you do, I owe you a lot!!
I had what you would call raid or death anxiety I always sold myself short now with Gnomonkeys help I have my 500 fang kit and my inferno cape. I tell people treat OSRS bosses like they're Darksoul bosses. You don't expect to go one shot the hardest souls boss you expect to die a shit ton until it finally clicks. Love you Gnomonkey keep up the banger content.
ahh i know the feeling. the thought of having to fully gear up again, being scared of dying, i think it’s because dying used to be so much worse than it is nowadays
Also for 20m currently you can pick up a blowpipe, fang, and trident. Which is currently good enough for 99% of content. I think this is a point worth mentioning. As 2 of these items are still used for the majority of content and won't ever be replaced.
@@MapleSyrup893m vs 80m (for +1-2 max hits) vs 1.2b (trident basically the same dps as sang for 77m less/heal effect doesnt matter that much if ur comfortable at all with the content ur doing)
@@evanspiteri3576No alchemical hydra is trash for gp. Because you have grind through shit tasks that konar gives you by the time you actually got hydra you were messing around killing fire giants for an hour.
Your narration abilities have improved a lot, sound like you’re talking to people and not at them. Doesn’t sound like reading off a script the whole time
Amazing video! I have a discord group of friends, and they are all in the process of learning Tob and Toa from me and my long-term duo. Some of them picked up one piece of content fast and struggled with the other, and some struggled in both, but after 50 raids, they all understand the content and are working twords perfecting mechanics. Just put in the time and be willing to take advice, and you too can one day still be dreaming of being as good as gnomonkey! 😂
I will never understand people who “suggest” getting a skill to 99 to “see if they enjoy skilling”. Like bruh, getting ANY to 99 means you enjoy runescape and the game. People who min max this hard are joyless creatures. Just log in and enjoy exploring the game. The classic milestones of Barrows Gloves, Fire Cape, Fighters Torso, and full void knight rangers is ALWAYS the first goals of any account. Just log on and enjoy yourself
One interesting way to use gearscape is: Instead of importing your entire bank for the best setups, only import your bank tab with your raid setup. You can then use that import for the best setup for each raid boss.
there is one thing mr gnomonkey missed for irons specifically and mains who play like an iron for a while: ZENYTE JEWELERY! DO NOT MAKE THE RING OF SUFFERING FIRST. its either the 3rd thing you make if you want to camp zulrah as fast as possible, last if you want all the jewlery asap, and NEVER if you dislike demonics Anguish (ranged) -> Tormented (mage) -> Torture (melee) or Ring (Zulrah ring) The anguish helps farm the tormented. the tormented helps kill zulrah. the torture is not a huge upgrade compared to the other two due to having a fury already and the accuracy probably donest matter at this point. lastly the ring if only QoL at zulrah and is overall not usefull anywhere else. i honestly wouldnt even imbue it on a new iron unless i had an excessive amount of points or that scroll from pvp arena The ring of the gods, lightbearer, or beserker ring are going to be the only three rings you use almost everywhere in the game
From what I've learned of iron efficiency meta is that torture comes first as it's the most significant time save overall. +15 Accuracy matters. (Also str ammy beats fury so fury is best skipped and just save 2m gp for skilling). Anguish comes next, then pick up hasta on task and bgs + bandos, then fang. Suffering is optional for zammy/ bandos and is just qol for zulrah later. Torm last because mage isn't used much before occult+trident at which point you'd finally start zulrah for magic fang and bp. B-ring and lb are indeed best, though seer's new +0,5% is worth it if gives a barrage max hit for slayer. Ring of the gods is optional because sepulcher, contacts and toa give practically unlimited pray pots. These are taken from ironscape's meta from their pvm progression, slayer and general progression guides (bruhsailer guide)
@@selkokieli843 theres a few issues with this. if you're being effecient on an iron you're getting all 3 zenytes before touching other pvm and if thats your goal then sure torutre. slayer past 91 is mostly bossing, bursting, or ranged with some afk melee if you feel like it. you want to have anguish and tormented bracelet for graardor and kril because you barrage the minions for hp for longer trips. you also have moons of peril now so gwd is not even important anymore, even for the hasta for toa. suffering is an option for bosses but what's better is longer trips which is very often limeted by prayer, not hp, when you know how to do the 4/5/6:0 methods. you shouldnt touch zulrah without a trident which means tormented is great. anguish for your ranged is a must. and again you just use moons of peril gear like eclipes armor+atlatl and blue moon armor+trident sure if 0.5% gives a max hit to barrage thats great but i genuinely dont see 0.5% dmg ever giving a max hit but if it does then you're right. however the prayer bonus from rotg or spec regen from lb are better depening on your ideal trip lengths/banking items/specs you bring ive seen a lot of info the irons in my clan have said thats just outdated or misguided and they say they saw it in ironscape's reddit. im sure theres lots of good info there but probaly only for someone experienced in the game (has a higher level main) and wants to be max effecient which A LOT of irons just arent. they get burnt out of a grind and move on without the completed clogs they need very often, for example
@@tustinbear5831 It's nice to have a bit of debate, here's my challenge on some points. I think torture is higher priority than anguish because slayer is that much more melee than ranged. But as long as you get both first, and before toa, that's good. Based on my knowledge of the meta developed by ironscape discord and my own experience, tormented bracelet isn't helpful for barraging gwd minions as you'll have to wait for boss to spawn anyway so it doesn't end up saving time. Armor take-offs is plenty to barrage minions fast enough. A potion is more effective in the slot, a prayer pot for example if that is the bottleneck. Ranged pots become the final bottleneck though once you get the 6-0 altar-door method down and that's 1h trip already with just 3 divine ranging pots. Ancient staff/scepter though is good to auto cast while you focus on flicking minions. I agree zulrah is best done late, though not just with trident but also wait for occult torm, and 99 magic should be there too by then. Bofa only zulrah is okay too though, esp with thralls+venge. Moons of peril is very popular now, however efficient roadmap would unfortunately push it off for optional collection logging in max gear. There's fine stuff there but as long as you go for bgs, bandos comes naturally along and that's already bis melee armor. Bofa with crystal is well above atlatl so ranged setup is done too. Bloodbark is very fast to get compared to blue moon which only gives a small accuracy bonus comparatively, low enough to not be worth the long grind. Even longer if you go there early with suboptimal gear. (Same goes for barrows and ahrim's robes) I'd only recommend moons (and barrows) for fun or for those who are not up to ever do gauntlet. Newbie irons can make the most well informed decision with this in mind. Yes, this roadmap is for efficiency. Whatever doesn't burn someone out is of course best for them, but that's personal so it's not up for others to figure out. What I've learned I've read from ironscape discord and guides from there. Info spread on Reddit boosts popular opinions rather than good calculations. Hearsay is not something I'd feel good recommending. If anyone's interested, ironscape discord has been cooking up a new pvm roadmap from str ammy to max gear which includes everything in between.
Youve hurt my feelings, you mean going and doing my 2000th arma kill on task with shadow wont help fix the fact i cant do a cox trio without dying at olm?
This guy has THE most strange takes on like everything relating to this game. How is slayer Inefficient? It unlocks some of the best gear and is absolutely massive for building your bank. And as an added bonus is trains basically all your combat skills lol. Seems pretty efficient to me that’s like 3 birds with one stone.
Its inefficient if you want everything you do in game to be completely time optimized, if youre grinding Nex for money literally until you have max gear like he says here and only care about grinding slayer to get the 99 though then yeah it is faster to blow through slayer by burning tons of money training it optimally doing only barraging tasks. If you want to train slayer with combat you should though, the way youd have to play to follow this guide is extremely repetitive and I imagine most people wouldnt want to play the game like this. The grind is the fun of osrs you dont need to rush into high level PvM.
once i asked gnomonkey on stream how does he manage tilting when he just got one shotted by akkha on a dolo toa stream, and he said "what am i supposed to do? we just go again" next day i did a solo 400 toa and die right away in baba and i was frustrated bc of that but took is advice and next run i finished, but got a solo purple, a fang, then went for the b2b and it was a shadow! theres gp to be made, just dont give up, dying is a mechanic of this game
I feel like this guide needs a disclaimer that its intended for people who want to reach high level raiding content as soon as possible. I understand this guide is meant to be efficiency based but I feel like if youre a new player playing this way would be incredibly unfun and burn you out from the game. Telling someone to grind 99 combats before they even attempt PvM is a good way to make sure they quit the game before they ever get there. For an experienced player trying to grind an alt this guide makes a lot more sense though.
@@GnomonkeyRSi rewatched the beginning and didnt catch where you mentioned that but I have sponsorblock which might have skipped it, if thats the case my bad.
As if people don't AFK at work or at home when they are too busy to raid or activity grind. Yes, a game you just started, you shouldn't be raiding off the bat.
Can you make a video about plugins and their settings? Like the potion one, exp drop, monster tiles etc? Also about how the HD plugin looks very clean?
Stopped playing my maxed main years ago, after infernal max cape/nex but before toa and ca’s released… now I just play the game for fun and main a 70 def account. I have more fun than in ~20 years of scaping just doing what I want.
While fang might not have the best dps against low def mobs, unlike the whip, it lets you train just strength though, so I prefer fang over whip for slayer.
So if I understand correctly, you started with summoning on your skills and ended without, so just switch from rs3 to osrs? Great video, im on the mid game stuck and this helped a bunch
Preach on the early slayer being "profitable"... by the time you're grinding profitable slayer actually worth doing, you're already going to have decent gear and stats. So many old heads love to push the notion that new players need to just buckle up and grind slayer to 99. Not at all a bad goal, but killing gargoyles didn't get my account right, grinding requirements and skilling my ass off did
you say at 200m you can do budget nex, for 1.) nobody in the nex discord takes people for small teams that have bandos and fang, i checked the gearscape site for nex 250m and it says fang and bandos setup for 216m, doesnt show range either. can you explain this
so what I'm getting from this is. do everything painful and get to 99 first and I'll start liking the game after I'm done with all that. 😂I can do the fun stuff when I'm maxed.
Using the gear scape site you have mentioned scythe/bandos is better dps in chambers and tob than any other weapon with torva so I would argue rebuilds are still realivant. I only checked because as a recently returned player I have scythe and bandos for tob from when i quit before torva existed. Your video made me look to see if selling my scythe for torva/blade/lance/fang would be better and it's not. The no rebuild for for t-bow and shadow may make sense but for scythe it makes way more sense to get scythe then torva peices
Torva should be one of your very last upgrades in an account period. It's extremely expensive for a slight upgrade from Bandos. That's why I don't advocate for people rushing Torva to do Nex either. If you want to camp yourself at TOB for months and months, fine, but that's a fast track way to burnout instead of just having a variety of gear that can do all content. Also, ToB is thee worst money out of all the raids right now...so that's probably the worst rebuild choice from Shadow/Tbow. Unless you also plan to grind Colosseum max eff.
@GnomonkeyRS well I have sang, bofa w/crystal, zynites, dwh, sgs, so I'm not really rebuilding. I had purchased scythe when it was 500m and was doing pretty much only tob and chambers also they were the only raids and best money at the time. I had sold my ancestral imbued heart and blade to purchase scythe at the time.
@@GnomonkeyRS competent team TOBs is nearly 2m an hour more than COX right now, idk where you're getting 'it's the worst money raid' from, not to mention a lot of people find TOB to be the most enjoyable raid. Almost as bad a take as thinking SW pillar is best.
Thinking herbs will make you 2m an hour without 99 herb is absolutely hilarious and doing dt2 bosses for money is also absolute lunacy. Those are some of the worst money making bosses in the game. You would be better off killing KBD for money.
at 11:00 you say that after passing the accuracy check the damage is in the range [1, max hit]. But I thought it was [0, max hit]. I recall a blog a few months back where Jagex was proposing to change it to [1, max hit] to make the very early game slightly better.
If you like min max then this is great. Personally this video makes me want to stop playing lmao. Currently running a mid level collection log iron most fun I’ve had in this game
If you've had a main before that's another thing but for someone like me who's only just got to mid-end game content for the first time in my life, and as someone who has a job and a girlfriend, I gotta be efficient with my time so I can experience raids. I respect Irons but I'm also scared of how insanely committed you have to be haha I'm too weak
Great video gnomonkey! Unfortunately i had to leave a dislike after you harassed and doxed me in the FFA ToA lobby after i asked if anyones taking learners but thats alright; i forgive you Cant wait for the next vid!
While you have fun with raids, I'm having fun with the rest of game and attempting quests and bosses at lower levels without needing to grind a single day.
Nice try Mr Monkey, but since jagex has released the candy corn slashers no longer do all spec weapons roll off one style, but these roll off of stab or slash based on the style (Wouldn't be surprised if we see more of this in the future)
Question about gearscape. on your compare inventories section you have the prayers/pots in an individual tab separate from the setup. on my end, the prayers/pots are combined with the setup
bro, i'm sorry imho, saying "if you're new to OSRS, just get to max stats as quickly as possible" is one of the worst advices I've ever heard. The game has so much fun content you can do without max stats or gear. most people will quit before max combats if all they do is train them and do 0 fun content
That's not what I said. I said if your goal is to push end game content, this is what you do, if you don't want that, then you need to balance fun vs efficiency yourself
Thanks for the video, I found it really helpful. I notice you mention finding a balance between fun and grind in the comments a few times and wondered, does it so happen that 'fun' coincides with efficiency for you, or are there some steps too far even for you (beyond an ironman)?
I afk'd most skills to max cape, instead of high intensity tick manip. There are some max eff content that I do not enjoy at all. High level ToB teams is one of them. I cannot stand max eff tob, that is content I'd rather just take learners and hang out. ToA is a garbage raid in general, so I want the max eff, to get in and gtfo LOL. Speedrunning in general is about max eff, and I enjoy the pressure, setting goals to beat certain times, learning new metas/tech etc.
Great vid!! what are you using to get your stat boost to show next to your inventory? Mine are in the top left and and i don;t look at that part of the screen very often.
@@GnomonkeyRS I am able to move mine as a whole but not stack them like yours. yours are columns going up and down and mine is 2 rows going left to right. Is there a certain plug in you are using?
I actually have to come back here to say that almost everything you said for choosing gear and weapons is not necessary, If i want to do X boss, or raid, or everything go to youtube and search for a guide, it will probably say everything you need. Your video was not practical at all. But that's ok, just my mind saying stuff.
It absolutely is necessary. I can't make a guide about EVERY single boss in one video. Yes, if you want a boss guide you can TH-cam that, but that's not the point of this video.
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For people confused on herb runs, they take 5-10 mins for a chunk of profit, the opportunity cost is 2m gp/hr. You can't get this per hour and you need to do them as they finish growing constantly, sucks but is best money for the time before mid level bosses
I love how nice and enjoyable you sound in this video but when you're on stream and someone asks a question, your mods or you have them banned. I have experienced this first hand. I really enjoyed the video though, hope you keep up the beast youtube vids 👍
Shoot me your name and I'll see why you were banned. Usually bans happen from arguing with Mods or asking if I'm a boy or girl for the 5000 time :)
How can you make 2m an hour with herb runs? I'm only profiting like 230k a run
@@FinnnAndJakeit doesn’t take you 1 hour to do the herb run tho. after ~10 herb runs, which would take an hour (ignore the part where the herbs grow) you’d have 2 mil.
Birdhouse runs are a comfy 2-3m/hr with 75+ hunter. Basically an extra herb patch
Ignore this guy, what you want is 90 faith, 90 vigor and a fingerprint greatshield
LOL
Imagine adding faith based weapons to OsRs
Fingerprint greatshield is not longer the absolute best pick, I'm afraid.
@@lughfiregod16 isn't it the pearl greatshield now?
@@Alucard5595bonecrusher should have been a giant warhammer
All the info is correct in this guide, I just feel like min-maxing everything from the start really takes away the magic of the game. I had a ton of fun my first account blundering my way through so much content and just discovering random things along the way. Nothing wrong with it if all you want to do is end game content, but I really think someone's first experience with the game truly feels like an adventure immersed in the world of runescape. And taking away the self exploration and curiosity is doing a disservice for yourself because they are some of my favorite gaming memories. If anyone is new to the game and reads this, consider trying some things blind first! You don't have to do every aspect at max efficiently, but you're more than welcome to if that's your playstyle. Either way I'm sure people will get a lot of good info from the vid, very well put together!
I agree. I feel like the best way to phrase a grind like nex isn't to say "get base gear, do nex until max gear". It's better to say "play the game as you want and do nex when you actually want gp". If you send your average lost rs player into nex for ~100 hours I would with high likelihood guess that they're gonna quit the game. But once they know the game and have the drive and desire to endure then they're ready.
Like if I was giving my buddy advise on how to get into the game I wouldn't say get max combat then straight into nex. He would think osrs is a bad game.
@@Tracru isn’t this guide for returning people?
I did state in the video that this is how I'd personally play and that you as the player will need to figure out how to balance fun and maxing. I show Hedron in footage because she's actually someone who absolutely WILL NOT quest or do early/mid game content in ANY video game. She purely plays mmos for raiding content only. She didn't play as a kid so she had no ties to OSRS being fun to build or nostalgic. If you want to take your time and chill through the game, that's fine, this still will be relevant for you when you're ready to start pushing for GP and learning how to use Gearscape
@@IamMrSimQnif they are at nex lvl they aren’t quitting lol maybe burn out if it goes like the average experience ie: lose money, die a bunch, get no drops lol
I hate AFK content like NMZ :( When I play a game, I want to be engaged. Gnomonkey is totally right: it's not as efficient, but I personally enjoy leveling combat through PvM and Slayer. Games are meant to be fun at the end of the day!
If you are new to RuneScape, the best advice I can give you is to enjoy your time, because you can never get it back. There are many different ways to achieve your goals in OSRS, so if what you are doing is boring you, look around and try something new! Don't let other people bring you down for playing the game how you want to, because they will try. Many people end up treating this game like a job/obligation and resent the time they put into the game, but it doesn't have to be that way.
Thanks, Gnomonkey, for the great guide as always.
“If you’ve never played osrs, train your combat stats to 99”
Pain.
My advice is: if you've never played osrs, don't. Don't become a slave to the clicks like us
I'd say do quests and level when necessary or until you get tired of leveling a skill then move on, explore the game, equip goblin mail, get to 75 combats, do Jad, ride that high for a couple months and play mini games, join a social clan, go to a couple house parties, get talked into doing raids, start to care about being bad, git gud, watch Gnomonkey video 👍
You're welcome newcomers
@@offspringfan100 My personal favorite move for new accounts. If you have the money for it is get whatever prayer level you want at the chaos altar is the very first thing you do before you get any other combat levels, keeps you low so you’re not likely to get attacked and you get whatever level you need and not have to come back later.
@HomeCookinMTG chaos altar isn't really that great anymore, bone shards are safe and less if a headache (especially as a new player)
lowkey this video was my wakeup call i watched it on the day it released and afked nmz and now im almost max combats minus prayer and defense
gnomonkey: you can expect to see a shadow every 565 deathless 300 raids...
me: holy that's a lot of raiding i've got to do
gnomonkey: i know what you're thinking....holy shit that's low
pissed myself laughing at that
Bro I thought the same thing hahah
most will get before that
@@amp4105That is the avg rate which means 50% of people will get it by then.
same 😂 to be fair, to get a huge item, it is not that bad. once you get used to it. Which can take a few days for some, few hours for others (took me about 25 completions at a lower Invo to get the base raid down.)
it is simply time after that. the stress is nowhere near as bad
@@TheSeriousSeanyou have a 50% chance of getting it in your first 392 raids and 63% chance in first 565 soooo
When I started playing in 2022, your channel was my pvm/skilling bible. I loved learning the way to do the maximum efficient way of bossing, say Zulrah or Vorkath. Then I studied your tob video for weeks before going with clanmates. Then studying your inferno guides. I love everything you do, I owe you a lot!!
I had what you would call raid or death anxiety I always sold myself short now with Gnomonkeys help I have my 500 fang kit and my inferno cape. I tell people treat OSRS bosses like they're Darksoul bosses. You don't expect to go one shot the hardest souls boss you expect to die a shit ton until it finally clicks. Love you Gnomonkey keep up the banger content.
ahh i know the feeling. the thought of having to fully gear up again, being scared of dying, i think it’s because dying used to be so much worse than it is nowadays
should put timestamps
Done :)
@@Hedron_Archmage Do your diaries!!!
@@Hedron_Archmage the goat!
@@MrTuas NEVER
Nty
Also for 20m currently you can pick up a blowpipe, fang, and trident. Which is currently good enough for 99% of content. I think this is a point worth mentioning. As 2 of these items are still used for the majority of content and won't ever be replaced.
I dont get the obsession with trident its not up there with BP or fang
@@MapleSyrup893m vs 80m (for +1-2 max hits) vs 1.2b
(trident basically the same dps as sang for 77m less/heal effect doesnt matter that much if ur comfortable at all with the content ur doing)
@@sasorin isnt it literally the exact same dps just doesnt heal?
Sang is typically +1 max hit and 1/6 heal. It's extremely powerful
Whaat. I thought you were an elitist?! Look at you helping the noobs. Much respect brudder.
Thank you for this! As someone who has a hard time getting into playing OSRS on a regular basis, this is going to help me alot.
finally someone makes a video on this. thank you king 🙏
Bro spent 30 minutes saying "just max ur account and look at wiki"
I'm an RS3 player, thanks for bringing me up to speed competently and intelligently.
god, i love the way you talk, it’s so engaging
The GearScape tool is pretty damn cool
Finally someone who admits Slayer is trash for money, lol.
Alchemical Hydra is an exception.
@@evanspiteri3576No alchemical hydra is trash for gp. Because you have grind through shit tasks that konar gives you by the time you actually got hydra you were messing around killing fire giants for an hour.
No it's not, i got 4 jaws in 200 kills on basi knights.
Wow u made 100m in 5 hrs whereas u couldve gotten 3 splits from torva platebody in those 5 hrs@@TheMCcreepermen
@@bane4743 There's a thing called Slayer point boosting...
finally someone with a level head that realizes slayer is dogshit
slayer was very solid back in the day. now all the new content outscales it quite hard.
It’s a decent way of training combat but that’s about it - some boss unlocks especially if you’re an iron
This is a classic! Haven’t watched it
This is fantastic for those who are willing to put in the time to become more experienced within the game
Thank you Gno, and thank you Hedron
Watched the whole thing, this is all really important info. Especially the updated information like gearscape
Bonjour fellow maxed players
I love the donkey Kong 64 music in the background. One of the best oddities of gnomemonkeys channel is the nostalgic music I hear in the background
Your narration abilities have improved a lot, sound like you’re talking to people and not at them. Doesn’t sound like reading off a script the whole time
Glad i was recommended this video. Thank you for this helpful, entertaining video. Hopefully ill see you all in discord sometime.
the SDV music was an incredible choice
Great guide, love the kirby music 😂
Amazing video! I have a discord group of friends, and they are all in the process of learning Tob and Toa from me and my long-term duo. Some of them picked up one piece of content fast and struggled with the other, and some struggled in both, but after 50 raids, they all understand the content and are working twords perfecting mechanics. Just put in the time and be willing to take advice, and you too can one day still be dreaming of being as good as gnomonkey! 😂
its actually so moronic as the money maker you've said get 200m then go sit at nex for 6 months hahaha as if any new player will do that
Choose 1: A life for the next year
A maxed OSRS or RS3 account,
you can't have both.
Nice to see the channel hit 50k and hellofresh support, congrats dude and thanks for another cool upload
sent this to a friend who’s new, really good guide for me as well. nice work man
I will never understand people who “suggest” getting a skill to 99 to “see if they enjoy skilling”. Like bruh, getting ANY to 99 means you enjoy runescape and the game. People who min max this hard are joyless creatures. Just log in and enjoy exploring the game. The classic milestones of Barrows Gloves, Fire Cape, Fighters Torso, and full void knight rangers is ALWAYS the first goals of any account. Just log on and enjoy yourself
One interesting way to use gearscape is:
Instead of importing your entire bank for the best setups, only import your bank tab with your raid setup.
You can then use that import for the best setup for each raid boss.
Bigup for educating younger generation ppl soon to be addicted to out medival clicking game
there is one thing mr gnomonkey missed for irons specifically and mains who play like an iron for a while:
ZENYTE JEWELERY! DO NOT MAKE THE RING OF SUFFERING FIRST. its either the 3rd thing you make if you want to camp zulrah as fast as possible, last if you want all the jewlery asap, and NEVER if you dislike demonics
Anguish (ranged) -> Tormented (mage) -> Torture (melee) or Ring (Zulrah ring)
The anguish helps farm the tormented. the tormented helps kill zulrah. the torture is not a huge upgrade compared to the other two due to having a fury already and the accuracy probably donest matter at this point. lastly the ring if only QoL at zulrah and is overall not usefull anywhere else. i honestly wouldnt even imbue it on a new iron unless i had an excessive amount of points or that scroll from pvp arena
The ring of the gods, lightbearer, or beserker ring are going to be the only three rings you use almost everywhere in the game
From what I've learned of iron efficiency meta is that torture comes first as it's the most significant time save overall. +15 Accuracy matters. (Also str ammy beats fury so fury is best skipped and just save 2m gp for skilling). Anguish comes next, then pick up hasta on task and bgs + bandos, then fang.
Suffering is optional for zammy/ bandos and is just qol for zulrah later. Torm last because mage isn't used much before occult+trident at which point you'd finally start zulrah for magic fang and bp.
B-ring and lb are indeed best, though seer's new +0,5% is worth it if gives a barrage max hit for slayer. Ring of the gods is optional because sepulcher, contacts and toa give practically unlimited pray pots.
These are taken from ironscape's meta from their pvm progression, slayer and general progression guides (bruhsailer guide)
@@selkokieli843 theres a few issues with this. if you're being effecient on an iron you're getting all 3 zenytes before touching other pvm and if thats your goal then sure torutre. slayer past 91 is mostly bossing, bursting, or ranged with some afk melee if you feel like it. you want to have anguish and tormented bracelet for graardor and kril because you barrage the minions for hp for longer trips. you also have moons of peril now so gwd is not even important anymore, even for the hasta for toa.
suffering is an option for bosses but what's better is longer trips which is very often limeted by prayer, not hp, when you know how to do the 4/5/6:0 methods. you shouldnt touch zulrah without a trident which means tormented is great. anguish for your ranged is a must. and again you just use moons of peril gear like eclipes armor+atlatl and blue moon armor+trident
sure if 0.5% gives a max hit to barrage thats great but i genuinely dont see 0.5% dmg ever giving a max hit but if it does then you're right. however the prayer bonus from rotg or spec regen from lb are better depening on your ideal trip lengths/banking items/specs you bring
ive seen a lot of info the irons in my clan have said thats just outdated or misguided and they say they saw it in ironscape's reddit. im sure theres lots of good info there but probaly only for someone experienced in the game (has a higher level main) and wants to be max effecient which A LOT of irons just arent. they get burnt out of a grind and move on without the completed clogs they need very often, for example
@@tustinbear5831 It's nice to have a bit of debate, here's my challenge on some points.
I think torture is higher priority than anguish because slayer is that much more melee than ranged. But as long as you get both first, and before toa, that's good.
Based on my knowledge of the meta developed by ironscape discord and my own experience, tormented bracelet isn't helpful for barraging gwd minions as you'll have to wait for boss to spawn anyway so it doesn't end up saving time. Armor take-offs is plenty to barrage minions fast enough.
A potion is more effective in the slot, a prayer pot for example if that is the bottleneck. Ranged pots become the final bottleneck though once you get the 6-0 altar-door method down and that's 1h trip already with just 3 divine ranging pots.
Ancient staff/scepter though is good to auto cast while you focus on flicking minions.
I agree zulrah is best done late, though not just with trident but also wait for occult torm, and 99 magic should be there too by then. Bofa only zulrah is okay too though, esp with thralls+venge.
Moons of peril is very popular now, however efficient roadmap would unfortunately push it off for optional collection logging in max gear. There's fine stuff there but as long as you go for bgs, bandos comes naturally along and that's already bis melee armor. Bofa with crystal is well above atlatl so ranged setup is done too. Bloodbark is very fast to get compared to blue moon which only gives a small accuracy bonus comparatively, low enough to not be worth the long grind. Even longer if you go there early with suboptimal gear. (Same goes for barrows and ahrim's robes)
I'd only recommend moons (and barrows) for fun or for those who are not up to ever do gauntlet. Newbie irons can make the most well informed decision with this in mind.
Yes, this roadmap is for efficiency. Whatever doesn't burn someone out is of course best for them, but that's personal so it's not up for others to figure out. What I've learned I've read from ironscape discord and guides from there. Info spread on Reddit boosts popular opinions rather than good calculations. Hearsay is not something I'd feel good recommending.
If anyone's interested, ironscape discord has been cooking up a new pvm roadmap from str ammy to max gear which includes everything in between.
If u call something boring, rethink and watch this vid!
Youve hurt my feelings, you mean going and doing my 2000th arma kill on task with shadow wont help fix the fact i cant do a cox trio without dying at olm?
ABB (Always Be Brewing)
This guy has THE most strange takes on like everything relating to this game. How is slayer Inefficient? It unlocks some of the best gear and is absolutely massive for building your bank. And as an added bonus is trains basically all your combat skills lol. Seems pretty efficient to me that’s like 3 birds with one stone.
Its inefficient if you want everything you do in game to be completely time optimized, if youre grinding Nex for money literally until you have max gear like he says here and only care about grinding slayer to get the 99 though then yeah it is faster to blow through slayer by burning tons of money training it optimally doing only barraging tasks. If you want to train slayer with combat you should though, the way youd have to play to follow this guide is extremely repetitive and I imagine most people wouldnt want to play the game like this. The grind is the fun of osrs you dont need to rush into high level PvM.
32:48
Truer words have never been spoken
once i asked gnomonkey on stream how does he manage tilting when he just got one shotted by akkha on a dolo toa stream, and he said "what am i supposed to do? we just go again"
next day i did a solo 400 toa and die right away in baba and i was frustrated bc of that but took is advice and next run i finished, but got a solo purple, a fang, then went for the b2b and it was a shadow!
theres gp to be made, just dont give up, dying is a mechanic of this game
not hedron catching all the smoke T_T lmaoooo
Gearscape was fun. Great find
Theres no way this dude had a 1 minute sponsored segment of hellofresh and then sent an 11 minute sponsored segment for gearscape in a 30 minute video
Lol not sponsored by Gearscape, it's just the best tool for learners
Fantastic video, thanks bud
I feel like this guide needs a disclaimer that its intended for people who want to reach high level raiding content as soon as possible. I understand this guide is meant to be efficiency based but I feel like if youre a new player playing this way would be incredibly unfun and burn you out from the game. Telling someone to grind 99 combats before they even attempt PvM is a good way to make sure they quit the game before they ever get there.
For an experienced player trying to grind an alt this guide makes a lot more sense though.
It does within the first 3 minutes lol..
@@GnomonkeyRSi rewatched the beginning and didnt catch where you mentioned that but I have sponsorblock which might have skipped it, if thats the case my bad.
Man has good taste with the DK64 OST in the background
“Just afk couple weeks in the nightmare zone” bro casually explaning 6 months
As if people don't AFK at work or at home when they are too busy to raid or activity grind. Yes, a game you just started, you shouldn't be raiding off the bat.
Thank you for this Gnomonkey and also thank you for teaching me scurrius!! Scur on my ri till is us!!
Can you make a video about plugins and their settings? Like the potion one, exp drop, monster tiles etc? Also about how the HD plugin looks very clean?
I actually HAVE a plugin video! Check it out, it has all the plugins I use for PVM and their settings. Anything else will be a chat command on Twitch
P.S I don't use HD. I have low detail - animation smoothing - gpu plugin
Stopped playing my maxed main years ago, after infernal max cape/nex but before toa and ca’s released… now I just play the game for fun and main a 70 def account. I have more fun than in ~20 years of scaping just doing what I want.
that tool is insane
the goat blesses us with another one
Having an updated ironman efficient gear progression would be cool, excluding red prison method or having an alternative.
With tormented demons I believe people can skip cg temporarily but it's along string of text I don't feel like elaborating
While fang might not have the best dps against low def mobs, unlike the whip, it lets you train just strength though, so I prefer fang over whip for slayer.
Raiper> fang for slayer
So if I understand correctly, you started with summoning on your skills and ended without, so just switch from rs3 to osrs?
Great video, im on the mid game stuck and this helped a bunch
Preach on the early slayer being "profitable"... by the time you're grinding profitable slayer actually worth doing, you're already going to have decent gear and stats. So many old heads love to push the notion that new players need to just buckle up and grind slayer to 99. Not at all a bad goal, but killing gargoyles didn't get my account right, grinding requirements and skilling my ass off did
I believe cutting cheese with a butterknife, is fairly ez🔥
just get max and max gear? isnt that when u quit
you say at 200m you can do budget nex, for 1.) nobody in the nex discord takes people for small teams that have bandos and fang, i checked the gearscape site for nex 250m and it says fang and bandos setup for 216m, doesnt show range either. can you explain this
Our discord has proper setups and takes learners who have budget setups all the time. Which I mentioned in the video
Acb/buckler fill the rest with the best you got. Join a clan its the wisest thing you’ll do
what is the nex discord?
It's my Discord in the description/twitch chat
Very very good video Mr Gno Gno! Thanks again for the content. "Hopefully this nickname sticks" ;)
so what I'm getting from this is. do everything painful and get to 99 first and I'll start liking the game after I'm done with all that. 😂I can do the fun stuff when I'm maxed.
PVM step one: Immediately lose 1 hour of DPS by calculating a 2% increase.
scurrius for meele xp is pretty good to i find it fun and it gets pretty easy to do after a while, not great money, but really nice xp.
5:47 Does jagex just spawn infinity bonds into the g.e. so they can pay the bills with the gp that buys it?
Gearscape pretty sweet
Using the gear scape site you have mentioned scythe/bandos is better dps in chambers and tob than any other weapon with torva so I would argue rebuilds are still realivant.
I only checked because as a recently returned player I have scythe and bandos for tob from when i quit before torva existed. Your video made me look to see if selling my scythe for torva/blade/lance/fang would be better and it's not.
The no rebuild for for t-bow and shadow may make sense but for scythe it makes way more sense to get scythe then torva peices
Torva should be one of your very last upgrades in an account period. It's extremely expensive for a slight upgrade from Bandos. That's why I don't advocate for people rushing Torva to do Nex either. If you want to camp yourself at TOB for months and months, fine, but that's a fast track way to burnout instead of just having a variety of gear that can do all content. Also, ToB is thee worst money out of all the raids right now...so that's probably the worst rebuild choice from Shadow/Tbow. Unless you also plan to grind Colosseum max eff.
@GnomonkeyRS well I have sang, bofa w/crystal, zynites, dwh, sgs, so I'm not really rebuilding.
I had purchased scythe when it was 500m and was doing pretty much only tob and chambers also they were the only raids and best money at the time. I had sold my ancestral imbued heart and blade to purchase scythe at the time.
@@GnomonkeyRS competent team TOBs is nearly 2m an hour more than COX right now, idk where you're getting 'it's the worst money raid' from, not to mention a lot of people find TOB to be the most enjoyable raid. Almost as bad a take as thinking SW pillar is best.
Thinking herbs will make you 2m an hour without 99 herb is absolutely hilarious and doing dt2 bosses for money is also absolute lunacy. Those are some of the worst money making bosses in the game. You would be better off killing KBD for money.
gearscape is amazing man!
the prophet has spoken
at 11:00 you say that after passing the accuracy check the damage is in the range [1, max hit]. But I thought it was [0, max hit]. I recall a blog a few months back where Jagex was proposing to change it to [1, max hit] to make the very early game slightly better.
Rebalance put that change into effect.
@@GnomonkeyRS oh. I must have missed it. Thankyou.
I hope one day to be loved as much as you love Hedron
If you like min max then this is great. Personally this video makes me want to stop playing lmao. Currently running a mid level collection log iron most fun I’ve had in this game
If you've had a main before that's another thing but for someone like me who's only just got to mid-end game content for the first time in my life, and as someone who has a job and a girlfriend, I gotta be efficient with my time so I can experience raids. I respect Irons but I'm also scared of how insanely committed you have to be haha I'm too weak
Great video gnomonkey! Unfortunately i had to leave a dislike after you harassed and doxed me in the FFA ToA lobby after i asked if anyones taking learners but thats alright; i forgive you
Cant wait for the next vid!
12:00 lmao they are going SO HARD on that Rat Bastard
Ultimate gearing guide for bossing
While you have fun with raids, I'm having fun with the rest of game and attempting quests and bosses at lower levels without needing to grind a single day.
Was not expecting DK64 music.
Nice try Mr Monkey, but since jagex has released the candy corn slashers no longer do all spec weapons roll off one style, but these roll off of stab or slash based on the style (Wouldn't be surprised if we see more of this in the future)
Question about gearscape. on your compare inventories section you have the prayers/pots in an individual tab separate from the setup. on my end, the prayers/pots are combined with the setup
Yeah, hit the unlock and drag them over to their own tab, then they will apply to both setups
@@GnomonkeyRS ah i see. ty
bro, i'm sorry
imho, saying "if you're new to OSRS, just get to max stats as quickly as possible" is one of the worst advices I've ever heard. The game has so much fun content you can do without max stats or gear. most people will quit before max combats if all they do is train them and do 0 fun content
That's not what I said. I said if your goal is to push end game content, this is what you do, if you don't want that, then you need to balance fun vs efficiency yourself
ok that bank import hack makes the app worth using.
Thanks for the video, I found it really helpful. I notice you mention finding a balance between fun and grind in the comments a few times and wondered, does it so happen that 'fun' coincides with efficiency for you, or are there some steps too far even for you (beyond an ironman)?
I afk'd most skills to max cape, instead of high intensity tick manip. There are some max eff content that I do not enjoy at all. High level ToB teams is one of them. I cannot stand max eff tob, that is content I'd rather just take learners and hang out. ToA is a garbage raid in general, so I want the max eff, to get in and gtfo LOL. Speedrunning in general is about max eff, and I enjoy the pressure, setting goals to beat certain times, learning new metas/tech etc.
LEGEND!!!!!
Is this ragnarok music towards the end there??
Main takeaway, get back up when you get knocked off. At least you're trying.
How did you get the *meow* as your cough at Nex? I love that haha
Nex Splits plugin, and its my own voiceline meowing
@@GnomonkeyRS goated plugin, ty
What plug-ins did you use for the graphical change?
I have a Plugin video that goes over everything I use for PVM. Low detail, animation smoothing, and gpu plugin are the main ones for graphics
✍🏾 Pre- ✍🏾 pot ✍🏾 Hello ✍🏾 Fresh👍🏾
What is the best way to train ranged? Train melee > boss/save money > chins? or Nmz or other method?
People used to cannon, but yes, chinning is the best.
wait wait wait, you weren't born this way, shut the front door, I don't believe it.
Oh yeah this gon do numbers 😶🌫️😮💨
New drinking game take a drink Everytime you hear the word max good luck
5 seconds in and we already have summoning
Great vid!! what are you using to get your stat boost to show next to your inventory? Mine are in the top left and and i don;t look at that part of the screen very often.
Boost Info, can use alt to move it around
@@GnomonkeyRS I am able to move mine as a whole but not stack them like yours. yours are columns going up and down and mine is 2 rows going left to right. Is there a certain plug in you are using?
But who is going to take a minimum required gear guy to their trio?
Our discord is full of people doing it. Most times 5-7 groups are running and 90% of them start at the bare minimum.
4 views in one minute? Bro fell off.
Jk. Love the content.
Nice Pokémon music
I actually have to come back here to say that almost everything you said for choosing gear and weapons is not necessary, If i want to do X boss, or raid, or everything go to youtube and search for a guide, it will probably say everything you need. Your video was not practical at all. But that's ok, just my mind saying stuff.
It absolutely is necessary. I can't make a guide about EVERY single boss in one video. Yes, if you want a boss guide you can TH-cam that, but that's not the point of this video.
Ok now can you explain it like im 5?
Pick flowers, get money, buy sticks, poke monsters with sticks very long time. Buy bigger sticks, poke bigger monsters. Do your math homework and win!