Cardassian Union | Star Trek
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- The Cardassian Union was built on the belief that in the struggle for survival, every resource was critical. Their ambitious drive to become a dominant force in the galaxy however, would lead them down a path that would bring only suffering and war.
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Neat. Also, when are you going to do the federation from Starship Troopers? Or did you do it already.
The Templin Institute LONG LIVE THE UNION!!!! LONG LIVE CARDASSIA!!!! (Also can you do a video on Oceania from 1984)
Great job, can't waite for to hear you on the Sojourn
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A dispassionate historical perspective. Garak would be pleased
Brian Campbell the best way to look at any civilization or regime, helps in keepig and passionate biases from hindering our understanding on why they did what they did and why.
The things we see is shortcomings about his Society he would see as strengths.
In our modern legends, Star Trek, Star Wars, Fallout and so on, it's hard to imagine that there's anybody left alive.
So the Obsidian Order is basically the Cardassian version of MI-6.
Please do the dominion
Is it time yet?
...oops wrong race😁
#Garakiswise
"A true victory is to make your enemy see they were wrong to oppose you in the first place. To force them to acknowledge your greatness." -Gul Dukat
Sounds like the rally call of the far left in the US
I always thought it sounded very much inspired from the Art of War from Sun Tzu , most notably the part where he describes that " ultimate Victory is to subdue your enemy without fighting " .
In this case well , fight him and soon he will realise that it was a mistake to engage you in the first place .
Either way , it makes me think there might be some of " Cardassian Art of War " , a general code and ideals enforced in the military .
It wouldn't be surprising given how the Army holds such an important position in Cardassian society and hierarchy .
"... then you kill them?" - Weyun
@@arthas640 You're projecting.
@@Ragitsu Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. Gul Dukat certainly was projecting his own power fantasies when he said that in the show.
Oh, it's just Garak. Plain, simple Garak.
Cody Dugan "Oh, it's just something I overheard while I was hemming someone's trousers. I suggest we go before Gul Beneel tries to show some initiative."
the only thing wrong with STO's depiction of Garak, imho, is that he moves his head too much. but that's the only thing that troubles me about him there
Thats how STO indicates speech. BobbleHead Mode = On. Earthquake = On.
Plain and simple.
Said know one who knows him.
Ooh well, let me tell you a story. I once knew a Cardassian, a dashing, handsome young man with a promising career, but one day, through no fault of his own, he found himself exciled and alone with nowhere to turn. But did he give up? No. He struck upon a brilliant plan: instead of fleeing for the rest of his life he sought shelter in the one place no one expected him to go: in a stronghold of his people's most hated enemies. There, surrounded by hostile strangers, he built a life and there, against all odds, against the merciless logic of the universe itself, he thrived.
I know this one, it's one of my favorites.
❤
Now tell me what part of this story is true...
It is all true!
Even the parts that are the lies?
Especially the lies!!!
"There's more to life than duty to the state."
"A Federation viewpoint if ever I heard one."
"And all it ever cost was the life of a single Romulan senator, and the self-esteem of one Starfleet officer. Now I would call *that*, a bargain."
Possibly the best episode of the series. Certainly the best of the season.
Yay for war crimes?
You forgot the other guy that died
@@Ragitsu Not really. Two lives and a third's self respect ... to save billions and an entire galactic sector. Damn good value I'd say.
@@jimtaylor294 Life doesn't possess a value...
THERE ARE, FOUR LIGHTS!
DontTakemeSeriously of course I see this after I post the same thing.
I am glad someone said it. DS9 is still my favorite Trek series.
No, there are five.
I'd have been counting every single light in the room including the individual datapad icons. I'd have counted the photons coming through the door.
@@a.square8658 well there was the overhead light so yeah, five.
"So, which stories are true and which are lies?"
"My dear Doctor, they are all true"
"Even the lies?"
".......Especially the lies."
The Cardassians are hands down my favourite Star Trek race ever, and it makes me really happy you guys finally did a video on them.
I just hope discovery doesn't decide hey we fucked with Klingon. Let's duck with cardassians
If that fuckin happens I swear I will throw something
@@diesozialistischeweltrepub332 i agree as a kid a got into Star Trek with Voyager but i also played Star Trek Armata 2 and fell in love with the Cardassian ships and then watched DS9 the Cardassians will always be my favorite and in my head cannon Discovery never happened
"Plain, simple tailor"...
Yeah, right...
took the words right off of my keyboard
Mihzvol Wuriar some Tailor spin cotton and some spin lies and the best ones spin both
He's a very good tailor, though. Among other things.
Nothing is ever simple with a Cardassian.
*Sips Kanar malevolently
Drinking Kanar with Damar!
At Quark's Bar!
DS9 might have singlehandedly made the Cardassians the most well-realized alien race in Star Trek, perhaps even more than the Klingons, Romulans or Borg. The fact that they are so devious, and at times unlikable, yet their motives are completely understandable and the outcome of their choices so tragic in the end, makes for such a compelling sci-fi race.
Don't leave the Ferengi off that list.
It’s these videos that really make one appreciate and respect the amount of thought creators put in to make the backstory and rich history of these alien species and civilization.
thats really what DS9 did best. It created fascinating races. The Dominon is fascinated and the Ferengi, Bajorans, Cardassian, even Romulans (to a certain extent) were all pretty boring races before DS9.
@@mr.peanut2096 i agree and i also think that no ST series since has been able to match DS9's level of development for it's alien species
"The bloody cardies can't be trusted." -Miles O'Brien
A Carrot Ol Miles would know , he's fought and won against them . not to mention he's quite adept at they're technology and engineering " O'brian for President !
Miles is my favorite Engineer, sorry Comm. La'Forge
Miles “Kill a Cardie, get a hardy” O’Brien
I always preferred, "I don't hate YOU, Cardassian. I hate what I became BECAUSE of you."
That moment when you win a cardassian court case, and you're the defense.
"OMG my career is over!" xD
Now you HAVE to do the United Federation of Planets or the Terran Empire XD
Another great job! I always look forward to your videos :)
The Obsidian Order AKA East Germany's Stasi in space.
doubleP rivaled only by the Tal'Shiar and Section 31.
No one rivals Section 31.
doubleP or like Cheka/NKVD/KGB
Torus2112 except CIA and JSOC
jmferr2011 That's just what they want you to think!
Damn. This gave me goosebumps.
Good job on demonstrating why DS9 has such a good storyline
This video highlights how obvious it is that the Cardassians began as a crappy knockoff of the Romulans. However since DS9 was such a deep and well-developed show they soon surpassed the Romulans and became more interesting.
I think it's a shame the Romulans never got developed all that well , they're my favourite species , second only to the Cardassians .
Their storyline in Star Trek Online is really great , it adds a lot of diversity to the Romulans , as opposed to the usual clichéd " Romulans are sly and can't be trusted " trope .
damn spoonheads almost got the entire quadrant destroyed
If you think about it, the inefficient Detapa Council led to the ruin of all of Cardassia. They were never allowed to decide much of anything, but the one time that they decided something, it had catastrophic consequences: Ending the Occupation of Bajor. Think about it. Ending the Occupation meant relinquishing control of the Wormhole. Had Cardassia controlled it, Cardassia would've built many colonies in the Gamma Quadrant, eventually meeting with the Dominion. They likely would've formed an alliance with them in the interest of self-preservation, thereby also giving the Dominion an opening into the Alpha Quadrant, which the other realms would've been too late to do anything against. In essence, had the Detapa Council not fucked up so royally, the Dominion would've ruled half the Galaxy, with Cardassia having a very comfortable place in that structure. Bad for others, yes, but excellent for Cardassia.
they had no idea of the wormhole and the cardassians viewed continued occupation as being more costly then it was worth
*Laughs in Bajoran*
Isn't a laugh universal?
Its a meme.
Some errors in this one:
The largest being at 11:25. The Dominion didn’t bombard Cardassia until after the cardi fleet switched sides
“Before I became a tailor I lived by a simple motto, never let sentiment get in the way of your work.”
Section 31 is better than the Tai Shiar doesn’t that say a lot. Templin institution have you considered doing a video with Lore Reloaded?
Tal Shiar: "We need to band with the Obsidian Order to fall in a trap".
Section 31: "We come this close to wipe out an entire species and destroy the Dominion leadership without a single warship used".
100% American Buffalo section 31 is op
And protected by the finest plot armor available
What about Psi Corps? After all: The Corps is mother, the Corps is father.
Well you can't loose a starship if you don't exist.
something about the Cardassians reminds me of the USSR...
I'm curious what relations were like between the Romulans and Cardassians before the wormhole.
Do the necrons from warhammer
Yes plese ^^
4th edition lore please!
did they change the lore post 4th? (just slowly getting back into it again.)
cmdraftbrn in 5th Edition Matt Ward blew in and changed the fluff for Necrons, essentially turning them from soulless death bots into Tomb Kings in SPEHSS. In addition to this, the entire deal with the C'tan got changed as well. Some people like this change, some don't. I personally see no reason why TI would even bother to do a 4th edition Necron video because A. It's not canon, and B. Before they were given actual motivations they were honestly boring and the only thing they would be saying the entire video is "they want to kill everything." Pretty sure 1d4chan has a pretty good and simple description on how Necrons changed after Matt Ward
HERETIC!!
Love the vid, can you do the Coalition of orders government from gears of war?
Cardassians are a very interesting species, not out right evil or good. Amazing video!
ok i stumble on the video on accident and now i want to binge watch star trek
thanks for that
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this was spectacular! your quality never ceases to impress and improve.
Gul Dukat did nothing wrong.
he was a patriot
suuuure
He did everything wrong. Including go insane, becoming possessed by demons and then being thrown into a giant fire pit.
Lord Proteus that's the joke
Uh huh. And Garek was not trustworthy.
DS9 was really brutal AND epic at the same time
So how long do we all reckon it'll take before the Cardassian Union formally becomes a member of The Federation?
After every last piece of shit in their pathetic "justice system" is made to go through the same mockery of justice as their victims. Meaning put on display as a criminal with no evidence and then (probably publically)executed.
Well, after the formation of the Typhon Pact in 2381 (which created a currency union, shared cloaking tech, and mutual defense assurances for the Breen, Gorn, Romulans, Tholians, and Tzenkethi), the UFP was looking for allies wherever it could. Over the following two years, the Khitomer Accords between the Klingon Empire and the UFP were expanded to include the Cardassian Union and the Ferengi Alliance. As of 2385, talks are still ongoing with the Talarian Republic.
For Damar and freedom!
Bethesda sucks, but Zerglings still are cute. Thanks
Cardi-ac arrest
I think Cardassia should join the federation as a protectorate and Bajor should flourish as an independent power.
How about doing one about XCOM?
I heard that the Cardassian Union was inspired by the Soviet Union in real life.
Probably Yes the soviet Union Is a evil empire prototype for american authors and usa popular culture
Do the Combine next!
Let's see the Umbrella Corporation next, please?
GrandmasterDevo Second!!!
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I really like how this channel is put together. Reminds me of something Tertiary did in Heinlein's The Cat Who Walks Through Walls.
Small error, the Cardassian fleet switched first and then the massacre started, Damar's rebellion, the new legate's incompetence, combined with the fleet turning made the dominion determine the Cardassians to be way more trouble than they were worth so they were just decided to massacre them
First we get the news that Patrick Stewart will be returning as Jean-Luc Picard and then we get a new Templin Institute video about the Cardassians. My Star Trek side couldn´t be happier.
Boy, you must be eating those words right about now...
Oh how we wish it wasnt true. Picard and Discovery made me lose my love for trek.... I had to go back and watch from TOS all the way to ENT to get my love back. I feel so bad for people that think disc or picard is even remotely like star trek
@@jonathansoko1085 I agree.
@@juresaiyan And now that strange new trek show is out, TREK is dead and im so very sad. They have forgotten what star trek was and is
I just realized that Kai Wynn was a Karen before Karen's were a thing.
Vulcans may be the most logical and Klingons the most fierce, but Cardassians are undoubtedly the most interesting...
Dunno if this is allowed or anything because it's a novel, but I suggest doing Oceania from '1984'.
7:25 what episode of Star Trek was this? And was this during TNG, Voyager or DS9?
“Well hellooooooooooo!”- Damar.
Incredible well done! This is a brilliant and complex topic of a fascinating people, very well discussed!
4 Bajorans downvoted this......
Kardashian union?
Damn
My brother worked on this show! I got to watch the last episode being filmed
Spoiler: Garak takes over the Cardassian Union. He was never really just a tailor.
I honestly can't really blame these guys for conquering planets. They had too. Survival is needed.
doom7ish Aye, but that shows they were running an unsustainable system.
Was it tho? Early days maybe yes but when they met other interstellar empires like the feds they should have realised their doctrines were no longer justified by "desperate times call for desperate measures"
Thats no different from what we are doing right now, since the governs of the world can print infinite money backed by nothing, and there is no limit for human greed when our planet resources are limited we are going down the same road.
Except that they didn't...because replicators exist. So all they had to do to get everything they needed was steal *one* Federation replicator and reverse engineer it.
See how the insistence on the Federation being a Perfect MarySutopia completely breaks every potentially interesting point in the Trek universe? It actually makes the existence of *any* of the Federation's imperialistic neighbors shallow and pointless, it even makes the "greedy Ferengi" shallow by making their greed for the sake of greed rather than for the sake of the evolutionary drive to acquire resources gone overboard like it is in real life. Now the writers could have rectified this point by making the holier-than-thou Federation jealously guard its replicator technology...but that would have been morally questionable and made the Federation less than perfect and we can't have that eh, Comrade?
+Jordan Thomas
_"Except that they didn't...because replicators exist. So all they had to do to get everything they needed was steal one Federation replicator and reverse engineer it. See how the insistence on the Federation being a Perfect MarySutopia completely breaks every potentially interesting point in the Trek universe?"_
We have 3D printers today and they have solved exactly zero societal problems. Adding to that, replicators cannot make Dilithium or Antimatter - both of which are necessary starship fuels - and replicators cannot run without a power supply, and they cannot make energy. Nor can they revitalize a dead planet's biosphere.
_"Now the writers could have rectified this point by making the holier-than-thou Federation jealously guard its replicator technology"_
Have you not heard of the Prime Directive? Giving a replicator to a primitive world is treated effectively the same as treason: with full legal punishment leading possibly to being assigned to a mental realignment facility.
"What you call genocide I call a days work"- Gul dahil
As big a Star Trek fan as I am, I always learn something new from these videos.
The cardassians are my favorite! I love Kendall the most though.
"D
I hate Keeping up with the Cardassians.....
Good video, loved it, keep it up! Glory to the Great Terran Union!
I love Cardassia by far my favourite Trek race and I love how fleshed out they were during DS9. One thing that always bothers me though: people always say (like in this video) that the Cardassian fleet learned about the bombings on Cardassia and defected but this makes no sense. At the time they defected the rebellion had cut off Cardassia's long range communications so that the Dominion leadership couldn't contact their fleet and oversee the battle (leading to their centre being kept thin and easy to punch through). Its only after this happens that communications are restored and the Dominion learns that the Cardassians have defected leading to the female changling ordering the entire population exterminated. Therefore it should have been impossible for the fleet to learn what had happened on Cardassia and for that to cause them to defect.
THERE ARE 4 LIGHTS!
Do INGSOC from 1984
It's pronounced Bay jor
they speak the name of the planet probably 1500 times throughout the series.
Otherwise well done!
I've heard it both ways
It can be pronounced either way. I also mostly hear it pronounced Bay-jor, however a citizen of Bajor is usually pronounced buh-jor-an, not Bay-jor-an.
Now this is a show ill watch, Keeping updated about the Cardassians
One of my Favorite races in Star Trek.
Just commenting for likes 👍
I wish more of Babylon 5's species were as fleshed out as ST species. Both franchises had my favorite approaches to aliens (the aliens from one franchise would fit right into the other). B5 is one of my absolute favorites, totally scratched my ST:TOS itch
Every time she says "Bajor"...
Bajorans are ancient Cardassians. Change my mind.
LIFE STARTS NOW I agree, hence why the Cardassians hated them so much. The Bajorans, a possible offshoot of the Cardassians when they were still Hebitian, still clung to the way of life which brought their ancient civilization low. As the Hebatians became the Cardassians, and their militaristic and state worshipping way of life took hold, they looked upon their Bajoran cousins as some sort of sick parody of themselves, a race who dare commit the heresy of rejecting the almighty state and putting the good of others before the good of the state. As such they saw such heretics fit only for being brought low and killed, if not to bring some sort of balance back to the universe.
Bajor have a completely different genetic build. Cardassians are more snake like. Bajor is more mammal like.
And yet they can interbreed. As far as i recall nearly all humanoid species in the ST universe are the descendants of an ancient civilization that seeded its genetic material trough the Galaxy.
If I recall, pretty much every humanoid alien species in Star Trek has a common ancestor.
That is true, but very few can species interbreed without medical intervention (ie naturally), except Cardassian's and Bajoran's can, this would indicate either a shared genome, or the writers wanted to comment on mixed race babies that week.
Kardashian Uni-Nevermind
*That was for Larkarian City*
Weird thing about Cardassians was that there was this entire war that happened off-screen during The Next Generation series. And we just got like a few episodes where we were 'at peace' and trying to manage the aftereffects. It always felt like a bunch of episodes explaining the war got skipped. Does anyone know the genesis of the Cardassians in TNG?
Do one on Gul Dukat!!!!!
Been watching this video a lot because I’m gearing up mentally to play a second game of Risk with my bros. We made it themed, where we each take on the persona of a fictional army: myself being the Cardassian Union. Since I won last time, the new scenario for next game is me defending Earth from my bros as they pretend to embody separate invading forces: The Daleks and House Atreides. Wish me luck Templin Institute!
Got any room for some mandalorians
I can’t hear the name of this empire without thinking of Chloe and Kim and co 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
…you know, I just realized. Depending on when precisely the Cardassian Union was formed, it's more than possible that the Bajorans and the Hibitians were in contact, bridged by solar sails and capable of communion and trade. Which means that the Bajorans, to begin with, saw their old friend rising from the ashes of their own destruction…and were conquered and occupied by those they once saw so much in common with. Meanwhile, Bajor becomes a symbol to the Cardassians of what they had once been, almost a paradise of old…and so they seek to claim it, both to "regain" what they lost and to cement once and for all their dominance over that old idea, that old "peace".
Good GRIEF.
Are you planning to do similar vids for Federation and Borg as they are the only great powers that are missing from your list of Star Trek Great Powers so far
I could listen to her talk all day; I hope she puts her voice to good use and teaches. She would be great at a seminar.
Cardassians don't make mistakes.
5:54 2319! We have a 2319!!!
Damar was kinda hot.
Frakkin Spoonheads.
Fuck yeah! I love ds9 im watching it now! DAMN SPOONHEADS! REMEMBER SETLIK III
Sounds a bit like another union we know.....
The Spoonheads fucked around and found out what happens when you piss off your neighbours.
Please do a analysis of the factions from Transformers from any continuity
Totalitarian means ALL CONTROL, and uncompromised control lies with said body. The Cardassians are authoritarian, not totalitarian.
Are the Cardassian, perhaps, the PRC? Because... they seems to be the space alien PRC... Hell, even it is in their name: CardASsIAn
DAMN CARDIES always walkin about asking for their kanar. They need to go get a job.
Glory awaits you on Cardassia....
While the Cardassian Union was certainly a mess, it wasn’t all bad. Without it we wouldn’t of had Garak. And that would be a shame. A plain, simple shame.