Back in 2016, I changed out the head bolts with ARP head studs, so I also put in the SLS valve buckets and billet idler pulleys in my 2010 S63. I haven’t had the lifter tick since then.
I’ve tried both oil change techniques and prefer the classic method on my c63. The oil cooler has about half a liter of oil in it. Change it every 6 months no matter what the mileage. I’m using M1 5w40 European formula. It has the highest levels of zinc which has a cushioning effect on the lifters also. All the M1 mb229.5 approved oils have the same amount. Just a little more time and you remove virtually all the oil. So far no ticking on my 2013.
I'm not sure if these engines are the same but on the M113, it has a non-return valve between the oil pump and block which keeps much of the oil in the top-end from draining back into the sump.
My G500 has developed this annoying ticking sound after sitting for a couple of months. The interesting thing is that there are only 29 miles since my last Mobil 1 0W-40 synthetic oil change. I greatly appreciate the time you have put into creating this helpful video. The additive seems like a wise step for multiple reasons. Thank you
I have a ML63. If the car has been sitting, the cam shafts will compress the oil out of a compressed lifter and you will get a tick for a few seconds on a cold start. This is normal until the oil flows back in. If the oil is cold and thick, it might take a few more seconds, but will stop ticking. If your engine is ticking at normal idle, then you have true lifter tick issue. I also let the car come off high idle to normal idle before moving the car. This should also put less stress on valve train. The joy of race engine inspired design.
Honestly I have seen very few M156 engines have lifter tick unless high mileage with poor oil change history. Usually most of the time noise concerns with this engine is rattling camshaft adjusters especially during cold startup. What I am seeing most though is broken or collapsed engine mounts. I probably due 2-3 sets a month. Some get so bad that the oil pan contacts the sway bar.
Just hit 38k miles and just now started hearing this, scared the shit out of me until it got warm and the sound was completely gone... gonna try starting it later and see... pray for me lol
As an FCP Euro employee. I'm glad that we're supporting other fellow M156 owners! Question: were you getting lifter tick all the time, or still just during startup like most people experience? My M156 went from dead silent, to some tick, to constant tick within a few days. Trying to be... calm.
Man I wish this had resolved my issue as it has for most of you guys 😢unfortunately, tried oil change and two different additives, tick still present. Looks like we’re going to be opening it up and doing the full rebuild Lord knows what the cam looks like, by now 😢
You can also try adding some Ceratec instead of MOS2 also by Liqui-Moly but not both at the same time. Been working on my M156 since 2017 and have used it ever since.
My E350 with the V6 was doing this tick as well ... I think it's a Mercedes issue period .. anyway, I went to Walmart and got that Lucas Synthetic Oil Additive and added it to my engine, drove it while, and it was quiet ... Im gonna change the oil since I just got this used car and use the Additive again
Sick video and sick car! I, unfortunately, had this lifter tick. Upon opening the valve cover, one lifter on the driverside upper bank was so bad, it had a hole in it. The adjacent cam was extremely worn. I bit the bullet and replaced all the lifters with the upgraded black series lifters and changed all 4 cams. It wasn't cheap, to say the least haha, next step is replacing the plate in the cam adjuster with 63motorsports version so I won't have to deal with that issue in the future.
@@skrrtgarage3922 just picked her back up today. An injector got stuck 3 months back. My dumbass kept trying to crank it but the engine hydro locked. Inevitably my starter broke some teeth and it damaged my flex plate 😞 once I recoup some funds she’s going back under the knife for the adjuster haha
I had a lifter or two bleed down and get noisy after a few months of sitting over winter. Once the oil got warm the noise was gone next time I started the car. Should only be worried if it never goes away.
Yup. I get the lifter tick maybe a couple times per year. Wait till oil is at 100c then redline it a couple times = problem solved. Also get the cam adjuster noise sometimes. Both of these issues tends to come if I’ve only driven the car a short distance without redlining it the day before. The M156 is a noisy engine, I think our paranoia gets the better of us sometimes. It’s a race car engine, it needs to be driven hard (and have good oil changes!).
Something that I have found out/ observed on mine. Is that if I let the car's oil temp get down to 230°F (110°C) before turning it off. I dont get any ticking the next time I go to start it up. Been doing for the past year and half or so, and I've haven't had any problems regarding this.
My 2012 has been in my garage for 4 months getting a work over , new brakes ,suspension arms ,rebuilt calipers and today I started the thing up and this is now developed the tick noise. Iam thinking a sticky lifter as it was doing this when I brought it in .
I had done the same thing using that product after new cams and lifters installed. I sometimes still have a ticking noise until it builds up enough temp or oil pressure builds up enough once engine revs pick up. Pain in the arse next in trying ceratec
Is there a problem with the flow of the oil when you’re extracting it and you put the oil filter? Isn’t that’s gonna create a vacuum effect, making it difficult for the extractor tool to extract the oil? Idk about this things so thats why I’m asking. Great video btw!
Thank you for this video! I do not have a Mercedes, I have a 2012 Volvo S60 T6 that has some lifter tick and I wasn't really able to find much in the way of information on how to use it. I got it for an incredibly good deal almost 5 months ago and it's time for me to do it's first oil change. Please correct me if this isn't what I should do but I plan on 1.) Putting the lifter additive in and driving it hard, then 2.) Put engine flush in and follow the instructions, 3.) Change the oil and add Mos, Mos2 or Cera Tec. My question is which of the three should I use? Also, do I need to drain any oil before I add the lifter additive and/or engine flush? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
Yep, as I’ve said in other comments. This car gets yearly oil changes. The oil coming out is only been in the car for 1k miles.. so I don’t do the oil cooler every time. Thanks for the comment 👍🏼
After 10 years of service in the dealership, I did the oil change on 2011 C63 myself. And guess what, the oil cooler drain plug has never been loosened.
Started up my 2008 S63 AMG w 27k miles for the first time in about 4 months and of course I get this issue lol thanks for the video. Going to let it idle for a while, and then see what I can do.
I have a 2008 s63 as well and I also do have a sound but it’s the exactly the same tik mine sound a little more like a chain or something not exactly sure what it is and no one seems to know maybe we both have the same issue … Shoot me your email I’ll send you a video of it
I have a singular tick when coldstarting, goed along with engine revs, but goes away once the engine oil is warmed up. Could that be this issue as well?
I have a C300 2012 and this noise comes up after car is fully warm, sometimes on idle and sometimes if I rev it up 3-4 rpm and when rpm’s go down I can hear it. What do you think ? Thanks in advance
So I’ve got a 17 C63S with this ticking problem. Are there any other alternatives I can purchase than the liqui moly lifter stuff? It’s my only car and I don’t want to wait 7 days for Amazon to deliver it so I can commute to work without causing any more wear and tear
Are you sure it’s the same issue? It very well could be, but I didn’t think it was common on the w205. Yes, some stores carry lifter additive. It could just be the injectors?
Marvel Mystery Oil. "Ticking lifters are a nasty symptom. It wears both your patience and your engine lifespan thin. Another benefit of using the Marvel Mystery Oil as an oil additive is that it takes care of the symptom for you. A reason for ticking lifters may be built up oil deposits, which prevent the pushrods or camshaft to make contact with the lifters. Through its cleaning properties, the Mystery Oil can make all deposits disappear for an obstruction-free motion of all moving parts of your engine."
@@skrrtgarage3922 Its been around for 100 years. I use 8 oz in every F-Type oil fill and my oil comes out clean. But I run overall 0W35 and change oil every 1500 miles (filter goes to 15,000) to keep the GDI soot minimal. Don't use MMO in 0W20, as SAE 20 is already rated for economy driving only in GF6 form. GF5 0W-20 that Jag recommends was discontinued in May 2020 by ILSAC for poor engine protection in GDIs leading to premature timing chain and bearing failures. MMO is only SAE 3. So you need to balance it with some higher SAE oil to achieve your target weight.
@@skrrtgarage3922 I never had this tick until I did oil change. Had 5w40. Drain it, added Mobil 1 0w40, startup it up 5 min took off ramp shut off. Started next day, lifter tick first time for couple min, went away. Never came back.... how would that get clogged from oil change
@@vWaLLBangz Na yo I switched to 229.5spec 5w40 and never heard a single unusual engine noise even cold ever again. mobil 1 0w40 is shit oil too thin and not good on these engines especially when they get some km on it
Hi! , I have E63 2013 , 3 days ago I had service on my car oil change and filters, oil was used mobile 1 at Official Mercedes Benz Garage , Can I add one of these liqui moly lifter additive?? Thanks Vlad
Yea that shouldn’t be a problem, I would double check your dipstick though. If your at the max amount you may need to suck a little out before adding more fluid.
Generally speaking, this is pretty generic stuff for engines with hydraulic lifters. But if your engine tick is loud even when the car is completely warmed up then it might be a different issue
@@BrokeLogic The results were I needed a whole new engine the crank shaft went on it & thankfully I still had the 70,000 mile drivetrain warranty on it, so Acura shipped me a brand new one from Japan for $8800 which they paid for, but I've since sold the car
@@djsthemetereman That's not very reassuring... I just got my truck back from a shop. They swapped the block and now it ticks. They want me to bring it back after my second week with it so they could do a full engine flush. I really don't think that's gonna work, I think it's beyond that point. We'll see I guess.
@@BrokeLogicHopefully everything works out for you & just to let you know my car wound up breaking down on my way to work & I had to get it towed so maybe have them do a more thorough diagnostic
Much thanks for the vid. after adding the liquid , when should i change the oil? ist immeditly like one or two days? i just changed my oil like 100 miles only. waiting for your respond
I don’t send the oil back… I probably should but I’m bad at that. I fill with a normal funnel. My pump has dirty contamination in it that I don’t want back into the engine.
@@skrrtgarage3922 my bad, i wrote that question poorly. I meant if it was easy to pump the oil back out into containers. I have a SL55, and after watching your oil change video w/ the white shirt I figure I give it a go. Just because I wanna use the FCP return policy. I dont want to ask for my oil back at my local shop.
The best oil I been telling people liqui moly people using motul that oil will really have your lifters making noise I got a video using motul & liqui moly my engine was loud with motul quiet with the liqui moly same as your using
I just noticed this noise after doing some work on my car, it is a 2010 e550 coupe. Is there any other reason for this noise? I've been having a starting issue intermitently that i've heard could be fuel injectors or the fuel pump. Could fuel injectors cause this? I'm tempted just to try this product on my engine and see if it does something. Oh yea I also have a leaking oil filter/cooler housing but it leaks about a quart every 4 months and I always fill it up as soon as I get the indication.
Engines are sensitive to have low oil. If at anytime your engine oil level is low, you could starve some areas. Fuel injectors are usually fine unless stuck open or gummed up. Depending on mileage you may need to replace them. Honestly, there are so many things that could cause a weird start I don’t know where to begin
@@skrrtgarage3922 sorry I should have been more specific. It is a hard start that happens with very long cranking. Usually when I tap the pedal during long cranking it turns over.
I just bought an Edition 1 2012 C63 with 28k miles, so far no ticking sound. I’m about to change the oil for Liqui Moly High Tech 5w40 plus the LM Flush Kit, Ceratec and Hydraulic Lifters Additive. I want to prevent it from this issues as best as possible.. I will be changing the oil every 5k miles, do you recommend flushing the cooler as I saw some people saying we shouldn’t touch it? Thanks for the reply
If the tick is due to the lifters the additive will solve the problem. It may still tick for a bit after start up. When the engine sits for a while enough oil drains so the problem comes back. An engine flush, oil change with an additive is an option. The problem is ultimately due to a design flaw.
@@skrrtgarage3922 So you are saying lifter additive, then drive , then change the oil and just add mos2 or add both the lifter additive AND mos2 after the oil change?
@@skrrtgarage3922 so I have a 2013 c300 and it has that ticking noise, brought it to the dealer they took it to a local shop for them to check it out. I received a call and he went through all the diagnostic then after telling me what he checked, he goes ahead and tells me “the noise is normal” is that true?
@@lifewithnothing8167 yea its certainly possible its normal. Some cars have noisy injectors. As a general rule of thumb, if you can hear the "tick" loudly when the hood is NOT open... then it might be an issue.
I didn't know made oil pumps like that to change the oil. Is that typically for sports cars? I drive a truck, the old fashioned way works just fine for me
Its a better idea to pump oil out, that way you never wear out your steel drain plug in aluminum threads. In some cars, like Jags, theres a pump nipple, so draining takes 3 to 5 minutes start to finish, with no jacking or decladding the bottom. Even without a built-in pump nipple its a 4-5 min job.
I owned w212 e63 m156, sound coming now, but if camshaft and lifters damaged, not need to change those parts? Just follow these steps and ignore what damaged at all?
follow me @c63_420 That lifter tick is probably from not changing oil frequently and also not letting the car get to temperature before stepping on it. also use ceratec. 1 bottle per oil change. change oil every 6000-8000miles. also i swear by the 0w40 amg specific oil. Make sure to drain oil cooler too.
i see your also using the 5w40 which is thicker. these engines need the thinner oil as it will lubricate the dry lifters and adjusters quicker than the 5w. Especially on cold starts. The downside of not draining the oil cooler is you leave about half a quart or dirty oil in the system. Just my and @tasosmoschatos recommendation. He works and rebuilds these motors regularly.
Yes the Ow40 is AMG specific, but the rule of thumb is the older and more used the car is, the higher the oil grade should be, no? I hear more people saying the 5w40 oem is better?
Either are fine, the only difference is the viscosity of the oil when cold. The 0w40 is less viscous and better if you live in a cold environment. The 5W40 is a little more viscous and would be better if you liver in a warmer climate
@@skrrtgarage3922 yea mate! Make all sense, I see, I live in UK , so here is cold so 0w40 is better bro thank you so much, because of you I cancelled my service plan with mercrdes benz UK , and I bought this oil pump exactly same as your 🙏🏼 big thanks man
Back in 2016, I changed out the head bolts with ARP head studs, so I also put in the SLS valve buckets and billet idler pulleys in my 2010 S63. I haven’t had the lifter tick since then.
I’ve tried both oil change techniques and prefer the classic method on my c63. The oil cooler has about half a liter of oil in it. Change it every 6 months no matter what the mileage. I’m using M1 5w40 European formula. It has the highest levels of zinc which has a cushioning effect on the lifters also. All the M1 mb229.5 approved oils have the same amount.
Just a little more time and you remove virtually all the oil. So far no ticking on my 2013.
Right on, that’s solid info.
I'm not sure if these engines are the same but on the M113, it has a non-return valve between the oil pump and block which keeps much of the oil in the top-end from draining back into the sump.
My G500 has developed this annoying ticking sound after sitting for a couple of months. The interesting thing is that there are only 29 miles since my last Mobil 1 0W-40 synthetic oil change. I greatly appreciate the time you have put into creating this helpful video. The additive seems like a wise step for multiple reasons.
Thank you
Thanks for the comment!
When not on use for a longer tome period, oil can “leak” from the pocket lifters. Will be filled up agin after startup an some driving, not harmful..
I have a ML63. If the car has been sitting, the cam shafts will compress the oil out of a compressed lifter and you will get a tick for a few seconds on a cold start. This is normal until the oil flows back in. If the oil is cold and thick, it might take a few more seconds, but will stop ticking. If your engine is ticking at normal idle, then you have true lifter tick issue. I also let the car come off high idle to normal idle before moving the car. This should also put less stress on valve train. The joy of race engine inspired design.
Yep! A little issues like this is nothing if you know what to listen and look for. Love these engines!
Hey man I got a question how much do you think it'll cost?
I have the same ticking sound on my ml63 amg. Did changing the lifters fix the sound?
Honestly I have seen very few M156 engines have lifter tick unless high mileage with poor oil change history. Usually most of the time noise concerns with this engine is rattling camshaft adjusters especially during cold startup. What I am seeing most though is broken or collapsed engine mounts. I probably due 2-3 sets a month. Some get so bad that the oil pan contacts the sway bar.
Wow that’s interesting!
Yea mine only has 90k miles. And it has lifter tick
Nah, there been 15k miles car with lifter tick. It’s “normal” for this engine based on circumstances
Just hit 38k miles and just now started hearing this, scared the shit out of me until it got warm and the sound was completely gone... gonna try starting it later and see... pray for me lol
As an FCP Euro employee. I'm glad that we're supporting other fellow M156 owners! Question: were you getting lifter tick all the time, or still just during startup like most people experience? My M156 went from dead silent, to some tick, to constant tick within a few days. Trying to be... calm.
Same here. Best to replace them brother
Mine was only on start up, it would go away after driving the car. If I drove it more often, it probably wouldn’t tick
Check cam adjusters they might need to be replaced.
It ended being collapsed lifters under one of the cams. Replaced all the lifters and it's been great ever since!
@@ShaneRGhow much was the labor ??
Man I wish this had resolved my issue as it has for most of you guys 😢unfortunately, tried oil change and two different additives, tick still present. Looks like we’re going to be opening it up and doing the full rebuild Lord knows what the cam looks like, by now 😢
Any news brother
also m156 has around 11liters of oil in it. if you drain the main plug plus the oil cooler then you will need 8-9liters.
You can also try adding some Ceratec instead of MOS2 also by Liqui-Moly but not both at the same time. Been working on my M156 since 2017 and have used it ever since.
Yea! That stuff is great
I add a can of Ceratec at each oil change. No tick whatsoever
Why not at the same time ? Which should go first
My E350 with the V6 was doing this tick as well ... I think it's a Mercedes issue period .. anyway, I went to Walmart and got that Lucas Synthetic Oil Additive and added it to my engine, drove it while, and it was quiet ... Im gonna change the oil since I just got this used car and use the Additive again
Right on 👍🏼
Sick video and sick car! I, unfortunately, had this lifter tick. Upon opening the valve cover, one lifter on the driverside upper bank was so bad, it had a hole in it. The adjacent cam was extremely worn. I bit the bullet and replaced all the lifters with the upgraded black series lifters and changed all 4 cams. It wasn't cheap, to say the least haha, next step is replacing the plate in the cam adjuster with 63motorsports version so I won't have to deal with that issue in the future.
how much did that run you if you dont mind me asking?
@@lakeminnetonkaoutdoors7532 just about 6 grand with parts and labor 🙃 I also only use liquomoly and the lifter additive with Ceratec and Mos2
Dang brother! Unfortunately we have to pay to play with these 😂. That’s awesome though, you won’t have to worry about maintenance for a long tome
@@skrrtgarage3922 just picked her back up today. An injector got stuck 3 months back. My dumbass kept trying to crank it but the engine hydro locked. Inevitably my starter broke some teeth and it damaged my flex plate 😞 once I recoup some funds she’s going back under the knife for the adjuster haha
Do u have a video of how ur tick sounded!
Can I add the lifter additive and keep it in there without changing the oil for a few thousand miles. I recently had my oil changed.
No you’re mean to but it in drive it for a bit and drain it do not keep it in there for months
I had a lifter or two bleed down and get noisy after a few months of sitting over winter. Once the oil got warm the noise was gone next time I started the car. Should only be worried if it never goes away.
Yup. I get the lifter tick maybe a couple times per year. Wait till oil is at 100c then redline it a couple times = problem solved.
Also get the cam adjuster noise sometimes.
Both of these issues tends to come if I’ve only driven the car a short distance without redlining it the day before.
The M156 is a noisy engine, I think our paranoia gets the better of us sometimes. It’s a race car engine, it needs to be driven hard (and have good oil changes!).
Something that I have found out/ observed on mine. Is that if I let the car's oil temp get down to 230°F (110°C) before turning it off. I dont get any ticking the next time I go to start it up. Been doing for the past year and half or so, and I've haven't had any problems regarding this.
Interesting! Thanks for the comment Rubino
I'm going to try this myself and see if it will work.... idk why but mine didn't start knocking until I changed the oil for the first time.....
My 2012 has been in my garage for 4 months getting a work over , new brakes ,suspension arms ,rebuilt calipers and today I started the thing up and this is now developed the tick noise. Iam thinking a sticky lifter as it was doing this when I brought it in .
So these W204 C63 engines M156 need to be driven hard correct ? Vs sitting at home and only being weekend warrior type of cars ?
Little seafoam in the crankcase can dissolve some of that sludge buildup.
Does it get all
The oil out of the cooler as well ? Or do u drain ur cooler
I had done the same thing using that product after new cams and lifters installed. I sometimes still have a ticking noise until it builds up enough temp or oil pressure builds up enough once engine revs pick up. Pain in the arse next in trying ceratec
Yea try that stuff, it seems legit
Is there a problem with the flow of the oil when you’re extracting it and you put the oil filter? Isn’t that’s gonna create a vacuum effect, making it difficult for the extractor tool to extract the oil?
Idk about this things so thats why I’m asking.
Great video btw!
It does out as long as one side is open. It won’t extract it all, but if you change the oil fast enough it won’t matter
Thank you for this video! I do not have a Mercedes, I have a 2012 Volvo S60 T6 that has some lifter tick and I wasn't really able to find much in the way of information on how to use it. I got it for an incredibly good deal almost 5 months ago and it's time for me to do it's first oil change. Please correct me if this isn't what I should do but I plan on 1.) Putting the lifter additive in and driving it hard, then 2.) Put engine flush in and follow the instructions, 3.) Change the oil and add Mos, Mos2 or Cera Tec. My question is which of the three should I use? Also, do I need to drain any oil before I add the lifter additive and/or engine flush? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
That’s EXACTLY how mine sound now
9L of new oil is because you are supposed to drain the oil cooler. That's also what the crush washer and plug included in the kit are for.
Yep, as I’ve said in other comments. This car gets yearly oil changes. The oil coming out is only been in the car for 1k miles.. so I don’t do the oil cooler every time. Thanks for the comment 👍🏼
After 10 years of service in the dealership, I did the oil change on 2011 C63 myself. And guess what, the oil cooler drain plug has never been loosened.
My 15 C63 507 is making that noise too.. with only 22 k kms on the engine im pissed its happening so early
Yea these cars can be a little temperamental if not driven a lot
Please use a lapel mic, if you haven't already started to. It will make your video easier to understand.
Started up my 2008 S63 AMG w 27k miles for the first time in about 4 months and of course I get this issue lol thanks for the video. Going to let it idle for a while, and then see what I can do.
Right on, good luck! 👍🏼
I have a 2008 s63 as well and I also do have a sound but it’s the exactly the same tik mine sound a little more like a chain or something not exactly sure what it is and no one seems to know maybe we both have the same issue … Shoot me your email I’ll send you a video of it
@@adrianbaruani2780
Did u figure out wat it was ?
Mercedes has lifter issues all around . My 2004 w203 had this lifter tick issue.
So happy I found this. Was sure I'd be doing major work. $12 bucks and some highway pulls later, problem solved.
Right on! Thanks for the comment
👍
Liqui moly also has hydraulic lifter additive aside from mos2
Yea I used both in this video, thanks for the comment!
Iv been told and have opened the oil cooler to allow the drainage to be completely drained
Ive been told those engines are harsh on mounts. Rec replacing every 5 years or so. Or upgrade from oem to the black series mounts.
They certainly are, most mounts get replaced between 60-120k miles
look into eastcoasteuro engine mounts. Better than BS mounts, but you get a slight tiny vibration at stop light.
Mine made it to 120k then the driver side leaked out and that was after beating the shit out of it since 2019 with 55k miles on the car
You had me at drive the car hard! Mine is making the exact same noise!
Haha 😂
I have a singular tick when coldstarting, goed along with engine revs, but goes away once the engine oil is warmed up. Could that be this issue as well?
I have a C300 2012 and this noise comes up after car is fully warm, sometimes on idle and sometimes if I rev it up 3-4 rpm and when rpm’s go down I can hear it. What do you think ? Thanks in advance
It wouldn’t hurt to try this.. but more than likely your car has a more serious issue
So I’ve got a 17 C63S with this ticking problem. Are there any other alternatives I can purchase than the liqui moly lifter stuff? It’s my only car and I don’t want to wait 7 days for Amazon to deliver it so I can commute to work without causing any more wear and tear
Are you sure it’s the same issue? It very well could be, but I didn’t think it was common on the w205.
Yes, some stores carry lifter additive.
It could just be the injectors?
hey changed my oil about 2 weeks ago, can i buy this & put it in or do i have to wait until next oil change?
If this doesn’t work, do you know a rough estimate on how much u would be spending on a lifter replacement?
My mechanic said I can leave the lifter sound alone and it won’t do any harm besides making noise, is that true ?
I find my lifter tick starts as a result of hard driving. I usually add half a litre from my 1 liter boot tub of oil and it goes. 🤔
Interesting 🤔
My Cl63 2008 engine has stopped worked suddenly, I had a lifter noise issue from before, please help!
Dang I’m sorry man, I wish I could help
Bless you friend, my Crossfire and I thank you greatly!
I love this. My c63 isnt there yet for 2011 but i will definitely be referencing this video if i ever need to. Thanks so much
Thanks for the comment! Cheers
How have you been paid by Liqui Moly ?
Hello witch adative did you put in first to run the car hard
The lifter additive
I’m here because this noise happened to me this morning after running 12.7s last night 😭
Marvel Mystery Oil.
"Ticking lifters are a nasty symptom. It wears both your patience and your engine lifespan thin. Another benefit of using the Marvel Mystery Oil as an oil additive is that it takes care of the symptom for you. A reason for ticking lifters may be built up oil deposits, which prevent the pushrods or camshaft to make contact with the lifters. Through its cleaning properties, the Mystery Oil can make all deposits disappear for an obstruction-free motion of all moving parts of your engine."
I haven’t used that product before, how do you like it?
@@skrrtgarage3922
Its been around for 100 years. I use 8 oz in every F-Type oil fill and my oil comes out clean. But I run overall 0W35 and change oil every 1500 miles (filter goes to 15,000) to keep the GDI soot minimal.
Don't use MMO in 0W20, as SAE 20 is already rated for economy driving only in GF6 form. GF5 0W-20 that Jag recommends was discontinued in May 2020 by ILSAC for poor engine protection in GDIs leading to premature timing chain and bearing failures.
MMO is only SAE 3. So you need to balance it with some higher SAE oil to achieve your target weight.
@@skrrtgarage3922 I never had this tick until I did oil change. Had 5w40. Drain it, added Mobil 1 0w40, startup it up 5 min took off ramp shut off. Started next day, lifter tick first time for couple min, went away. Never came back.... how would that get clogged from oil change
@@multiblade04 interesting man I like to see the feedback
@@vWaLLBangz Na yo I switched to 229.5spec 5w40 and never heard a single unusual engine noise even cold ever again. mobil 1 0w40 is shit oil too thin and not good on these engines especially when they get some km on it
can u put lifter and MOS2 additive before to prevent it might happen in the future?
Yea can. Although, I would only use the lifter additive if your currently having the issue. other wise just add ceratec or mso2
Will this also work for 2013 Mercedes C350
Hey 1 more question I just changed my oil 2 days ago and there’s only 400 miles driven with that oil
Am I safe to add some lifter additive
You can add it anytime, it’s usually best to add before you replace all the oil though. That way it’ll mix a little more with the regular oil.
Hi. What additive did you use to free up the lifters before the oil change?
Liqui Moly
Hi! , I have E63 2013 , 3 days ago I had service on my car oil change and filters, oil was used mobile 1 at Official Mercedes Benz Garage , Can I add one of these liqui moly lifter additive??
Thanks Vlad
Yea that shouldn’t be a problem, I would double check your dipstick though. If your at the max amount you may need to suck a little out before adding more fluid.
@@skrrtgarage3922 I will check it today! 🍻😎
Hi does this apply to the FType R? I have a tick when its warmed up. What would be the steps to diagnose it?
Generally speaking, this is pretty generic stuff for engines with hydraulic lifters. But if your engine tick is loud even when the car is completely warmed up then it might be a different issue
@@skrrtgarage3922 not that loud and due for an oil change so lets see. Thanks alot
@@russellmaguire4316 , did your tick issue go away after the oil change? Perhaps, did you end up adding the additive?
Do you add the anti friction treatment with every oil change?
You can, it certainly wouldn’t hurt anything
Do you have to change the oil once the additive is added ?
Thanks for the vid! Do you know where I can purchase a replacement oil dipstick for my 2008 e63?
No idea, maybe rock auto.com or fcpeuro.com
Mine was clicking when accelerating & it would tick rapidly but I did let oil get a little low so I put liquid moly & I'm gonna change the oil
If your oil level is good, and a hard drive doesn’t solve the tick. Then it’s probably more serious, like bearings or something like that
What's the result bro?
@@BrokeLogic The results were I needed a whole new engine the crank shaft went on it & thankfully I still had the 70,000 mile drivetrain warranty on it, so Acura shipped me a brand new one from Japan for $8800 which they paid for, but I've since sold the car
@@djsthemetereman That's not very reassuring... I just got my truck back from a shop. They swapped the block and now it ticks. They want me to bring it back after my second week with it so they could do a full engine flush. I really don't think that's gonna work, I think it's beyond that point. We'll see I guess.
@@BrokeLogicHopefully everything works out for you & just to let you know my car wound up breaking down on my way to work & I had to get it towed so maybe have them do a more thorough diagnostic
Did you ever put the ceratec in after the oil change or just the MoS2 ?
Ceratec is great, I use that every other oil change
Is that a legit black series or just a regular C63 with body kit?
Much thanks for the vid. after adding the liquid , when should i change the oil? ist immeditly like one or two days? i just changed my oil like 100 miles only.
waiting for your respond
Whenever you get the lifter unstuck, it’s not necessary to change immediately.
@@skrrtgarage3922 much thanks bro! Im doing it today. Wish me luck
@@skrrtgarage3922 update: added the liquid and took 10-15 miles cruise but the ticking didnt go.
G wagon 55 m113k 2012
Do you send your oil back to fcp? Is it easy to fill it up using your pump? TIA!
I don’t send the oil back… I probably should but I’m bad at that.
I fill with a normal funnel. My pump has dirty contamination in it that I don’t want back into the engine.
@@skrrtgarage3922 my bad, i wrote that question poorly. I meant if it was easy to pump the oil back out into containers. I have a SL55, and after watching your oil change video w/ the white shirt I figure I give it a go. Just because I wanna use the FCP return policy. I dont want to ask for my oil back at my local shop.
Did this ticking sound get faster as you accelerated? And was it more noticeable if you were driving next to other cars or a wall?
Mine does that on my ml63 amg 2014
Maybe I missed it in the video what year is this car?
The best oil I been telling people liqui moly people using motul that oil will really have your lifters making noise I got a video using motul & liqui moly my engine was loud with motul quiet with the liqui moly same as your using
Right on, yea I’m a believer in the liqui moly 👍🏼
what about your oil cooler still have oil you can't drain it with a vacuum pump, I would recommend draining the cooler
Solid idea, I’ll do that next time
Is it safe to do this even if I don’t have a lifter tick?
I have a 2009 c63
Yes absolutely
Wassup bro, did the ticking come back since you did this?
i also use the liquimoly with molygen in it( the green jug)
Right on, that’s good stuff.
I just noticed this noise after doing some work on my car, it is a 2010 e550 coupe. Is there any other reason for this noise? I've been having a starting issue intermitently that i've heard could be fuel injectors or the fuel pump. Could fuel injectors cause this? I'm tempted just to try this product on my engine and see if it does something. Oh yea I also have a leaking oil filter/cooler housing but it leaks about a quart every 4 months and I always fill it up as soon as I get the indication.
Engines are sensitive to have low oil. If at anytime your engine oil level is low, you could starve some areas.
Fuel injectors are usually fine unless stuck open or gummed up. Depending on mileage you may need to replace them.
Honestly, there are so many things that could cause a weird start I don’t know where to begin
@@skrrtgarage3922 sorry I should have been more specific. It is a hard start that happens with very long cranking. Usually when I tap the pedal during long cranking it turns over.
I just bought an Edition 1 2012 C63 with 28k miles, so far no ticking sound. I’m about to change the oil for Liqui Moly High Tech 5w40 plus the LM Flush Kit, Ceratec and Hydraulic Lifters Additive. I want to prevent it from this issues as best as possible.. I will be changing the oil every 5k miles, do you recommend flushing the cooler as I saw some people saying we shouldn’t touch it? Thanks for the reply
Yea on these cars you want to drain the cooler and the pan to get the full 9L out
my m113k has a tick if i don't start it everyday on cold start but it goes away after 5 10 mins would this work on the m113k engine too
If the tick is due to the lifters the additive will solve the problem. It may still tick for a bit after start up. When the engine sits for a while enough oil drains so the problem comes back. An engine flush, oil change with an additive is an option. The problem is ultimately due to a design flaw.
when would the Ceratec be used ?
When u add you’re new oil
Hi mate, can you send to me all that you used to do that please. Thx 🤜🤛
For sure bro. They are in the description box of this video!
Thank you so much!!!! This vid is so so useful
How long did you drive?
Did you add both the lifter additive & Mos2 additive after the oil change?
Yes, lifter additive first. Then once you change the oil you can use ceritec or mos2 additive
@@skrrtgarage3922 So you are saying lifter additive, then drive , then change the oil and just add mos2 or add both the lifter additive AND mos2 after the oil change?
Can u put both at the same time with the oil change?
Yea you can, but I didn’t want to leave the lifter additive in there the whole time
@@skrrtgarage3922 Curious as to why?
Do you know what would happen to the car if you have that problem but still drive it?
If you have that issue and it’s not going away… then it will wear down your camshaft prematurely. It’s definitely something to fix quickly
@@skrrtgarage3922 so I have a 2013 c300 and it has that ticking noise, brought it to the dealer they took it to a local shop for them to check it out. I received a call and he went through all the diagnostic then after telling me what he checked, he goes ahead and tells me “the noise is normal” is that true?
@@lifewithnothing8167 yea its certainly possible its normal. Some cars have noisy injectors. As a general rule of thumb, if you can hear the "tick" loudly when the hood is NOT open... then it might be an issue.
I have a W212 2011 and makes the same ticking noise
Great video!
Thanks Eric!
I didn't know made oil pumps like that to change the oil. Is that typically for sports cars? I drive a truck, the old fashioned way works just fine for me
Its a better idea to pump oil out, that way you never wear out your steel drain plug in aluminum threads. In some cars, like Jags, theres a pump nipple, so draining takes 3 to 5 minutes start to finish, with no jacking or decladding the bottom. Even without a built-in pump nipple its a 4-5 min job.
Yea the pump isn’t totally necessary but it does make the job hella easy
@@skrrtgarage3922 I use an electric pump for my AMG SL63. I use 10w-60 Liqui moly and lubegard additive for engine . Incredible additive
I owned w212 e63 m156, sound coming now, but if camshaft and lifters damaged, not need to change those parts? Just follow these steps and ignore what damaged at all?
It depends on how long the sound has been happening, wether it’s a consistent sound and the milage of the car.
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Is the additive compatible with the M278?
Lifter additive can be used in any car with traditional lifters.
Did you try it? I'm having issues with mine too.
What Mercedes did you have before?
I used to have this same year c63 in a sedan
Has the tick ever came back?
Nope! Thanks fully it’s gone
Can i use mos2 with 0w40?
Yea you can use MOS2 with pretty much any oil
Love them mighty vacs!!!
O love wheels, what is name of wheels? 😊
They are HRE!
Bro your oil cooler??
I didn’t do the oil cooler this time 😬, it had only been 1k miles since my last change so the oil was basically still new.
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thank you
Nice vid
Thanks!
I don't have the same car but I think mine is making the same sound
good stuff
Thanks homie
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That lifter tick is probably from not changing oil frequently and also not letting the car get to temperature before stepping on it. also use ceratec. 1 bottle per oil change. change oil every 6000-8000miles. also i swear by the 0w40 amg specific oil. Make sure to drain oil cooler too.
i see your also using the 5w40 which is thicker. these engines need the thinner oil as it will lubricate the dry lifters and adjusters quicker than the 5w. Especially on cold starts. The downside of not draining the oil cooler is you leave about half a quart or dirty oil in the system. Just my and @tasosmoschatos recommendation. He works and rebuilds these motors regularly.
Yea I watched a lot of his videos as well. I generally try not to deviate from OEM oil specs but that could be a good idea for the next oil change!
Oem oil spec is the Amg 0w40
Yes the Ow40 is AMG specific, but the rule of thumb is the older and more used the car is, the higher the oil grade should be, no? I hear more people saying the 5w40 oem is better?
Hi again,
What oil you recommend, Mobile 1 0w40 or
Liqui Moly 5w40?
Either are fine, the only difference is the viscosity of the oil when cold. The 0w40 is less viscous and better if you live in a cold environment. The 5W40 is a little more viscous and would be better if you liver in a warmer climate
@@skrrtgarage3922 yea mate! Make all sense, I see, I live in UK , so here is cold so 0w40 is better bro thank you so much, because of you I cancelled my service plan with mercrdes benz UK , and I bought this oil pump exactly same as your 🙏🏼 big thanks man
Right on man! Thanks for the comment, I appreciate that.
Like a crazy girlfriend you have to give her more attention or she’ll get mad
She’s needy in the best way possible haha
You forgot to drain the oil cooler located in front of the radiator!!!
I didn’t forget, it had only been 300 miles since the last oil change so I didn’t bother with the oil cooler.
Do you have a link to that oil pump?
Yea I’ll put it in
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Hey watch out what you say about Italians! 😂 nice trick for the tick
Hahah well that is my preferred tune up 😉
@@skrrtgarage3922 Epic car with beautiful HRE wheels! 👍
Nice Video but Why didn't you let us hear your engine after you finished.. you sort of screwed up the whole point of this Video Conor
The point is that YOU would notice if yours has been fixed or not, whether I show you normal sound or not doesn’t really matter