Old Seikos WERE So Much Better! SARX041/SPB039 Review
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Ah yes, when I were a lad, we grew up, 12 of us, in a cardboard box in the middle of the road...... Time for me to put on my old man hat today and moan about things notbeing as good as they used to be. But sadly, in this case, I think it is true. This is a lovely watch by Seiko. If you want the same looks today for the same money, no problem. But if you want the same looks and the same spens, then you are paying for it! Cheers, Jody
I grew up in an age when gifting a Seiko was a special moment as you knew the watch was of high quality for the price... Oh, how times have changed! Great video Jody. 👍
It’s the ‘sold’ toggle you need to add on ebay to see what they’re actually selling at - rather than what 2nd hand sellers are *asking* for. 👍
Ah. Old Seiko. I remeber when things on the dial were aligned........prices were reasonable......the wiggly bits were wiggly but would hold up. On occasion (it was said by some) a Japanese man(he/him/she/her/zer/zey/zem) would astound the worlds watch lovers by coming up with things like the mythical SKX and the Flighty.
Lol Seiko and aligned aren’t going well in the same sentence.😂
Come on, dials have always been missaligned, but at half the price we didn't mind as much
what's with the random pronouns joke
Enjoyed the fun and insightful angle on this review a lot! And as a fellow over-40, I find it quite enjoyable to drop one of those they-don’t-make-em-like-they-used-to occasionally! Cheers & thanks for the review!
Seeing these older Seikos makes me wish I'd started collecting years ago. I definitely feel like I missed the metaphorical boat. I was fourteen years old in the late 1970s when my dad gave me his Seiko 5, which he bought in 1969. That watch took a beating and it's still running and keeping good time. I wish I had more of these older Seikos in my collection. Thanks for another great video.
Sold my SARB033 for more than I paid and replaced it with a Tissot PRX powermatic 80. Absolutely spot on Jody, the best value now often comes from the Swatch group. A presage with a 4r movement and mineral crystal, no thanks Seiko.
I kept looking at Seiko Presage watches, but got the cream Orient Bambino with Roman numerals instead, I really did prefer the look over any Seiko and it was much cheaper.
I have have abandoned Seiko as their quality hasn’t improved at all but their prices keep going up. You get a better watch for the money from the Swiss now!
For real. Crazy stuff
Same deal with my JDM SARX013 from 2017. Absolutely gorgeous watch with a 6R movement, amazing textured dial, sapphire and 100m WR. Seems to be fairly rare and the price of pre-owned units has stabilised at around $250 AU above my purchase price. Although I've bought some Seiko's since then that are also outstanding.... so I'm not about to start chiming in with "the good old days". Great review Jody.... thanks.
I have the SPB059, which I bought several years ago for under $1000 AUS. I absolutely love it and will never part with it. Interestingly, TGV did a great review of these models some time ago. They were modelled on the original Seiko Laurel which was used as a railway watch. Great video as usual Jody.
I had the SARX037, basically this watch on a bracelet without the red 12 - was just a great everyday piece. The movement did lose accuracy a bit faster than I’d like, but what a great way to get into watches. I always preferred the Presages with Presage on the dial. I’ve gotten over the Prospex symbol, but still haven’t come back to the dressier line. Great video!
Just picked up a 1974 Seiko QR Quartz. Stunning watch and beautifully built!
You did well with your purchase Jody. I bought my SARX041 from SeiyaJapan back in June of '19 and it cost me AU$809 inc. postage etc. It doesn't get a lot of wrist time and I really admire the style, and the fit and finish are great. I couldn't imagine myself selling it.
I had a sunburst brown Timex with that font in the 70's as a kid . Love that look.
This goes way back but proves your point well, Jody: I stumbled on a 1971 Seiko 6106-6430 UFO in an antique store several years ago. When I did the "Seiko shake" I was shocked to see it start right up, and guess what? I bought it, took it home, and today it STILL performs as well as or better than my Alpinist, my Seiko 5, and my SKX. Plus, the design is killer! Cheers, sir!
Managed to pick up an SKX009 recently (for under SG$400!) and I am blown away by the quality and how well the 7S26 keeps time (+4 s/d - take note 6R35 with your -15 s/d). I'm still a current Seiko fan but it's amazing how high quality a (formerly) $200 watch used to be.
The so-called back-to-front deployant strap and is the more correct positioning of the deployant strap. You want the strap end in the strap holder loops to be facing inwards instead of facing outwards. This is a neater look. Just like you tuck in your shirt ends to present yourself to others neatly instead of showing the shirt ends outside the pants.
Didn't care for it until the macro shots, really like that texture on the face. Great...now I want one
Bond had Seiko's back in the day and is why I fell in love with them at school in the 70s. Wore them until 4 yrs ago before I managed to get myself a Seamaster. Bloody shame they seem to have gone downhill of late.
Used to work for H. Samuel in South Wales during the early 80s, and we sold loads if the Seiko automatics. People that had moved here from abroad used to buy them and send them home as gifts as they were fantastic quality and did not need hard to find batteries in developing countries.
I have this exact watch. I bought it while on my trip to Asia on 2016. I thought I would sell it after a year or two but it’s still in the collection. Since they released the SJE075, a very similar looking watch, I decided to keep it.
This is a lovely watch ... love the dial pattern, the hands and the font of the numerals ... simple but tasteful and elegant.
I thought the punchline of that old gag was that the other four folk singers complain that the new bulb has gone electric? 😊 Still, good point that Seiko has been offering less spec for more money as this example demonstrates well.
The only Seiko I own is a 35 year old 7431-5050, a very slim oblong shaped quartz dress watch. I have really wanted to add a Seiko to my collection but I cannot get over the QC/ Padi, Prospex and 5 logos. Think I'm off to Christopher Ward! Great videos as usual.
I agree, I said this before, they are giving the Swiss a big in road, I mean the Certina, Tissot, and Hamilton lines are around the same price with ETA movements
I paid a hundred quid for a Seiko5 when my Rolex was being mended, It went Scuba diving, survived everything from modding to bike accidents and nearly a decade as my only watch and it ticks away still, now a Seiko 5 is £400, can anyone else name a product that has quadrupled in price since the early 2000's ? But even this pricing isn't consistent, how then can my King Turtle offer sapphire & ceramic plus ISO for the same price? (actually a bit less?) Its bizzarre.
@@Aaronides Thats a really good point, my first iphone was about then too.
Wish I bought this watch a few years ago when I had the chance in Singapore! I recently managed to pick up a ‘as new’ SARB003 for £400 from a local shop. I’ll be hanging on to this, stunning watch !!
The SRP385J 100th anniversary Presage was also very similar. 4r36 100m day/date. They were limited to 1,500 pieces and I never see them offered for sale, also speaking to their relative quality. I like wearing mine on a ribbed Tornek Rayville Nato for a old school vibe.
Aw bless - old Seiko. I thought you really meant it for a second. I'm wearing my 1963 Seiko Liner with the 3140 movement, after service, it's running at +2s a day. Not bad for a watch about to see its 60th birthday. I know vintage isn't really your thing but then you're a young thing yourself.
What an amazing dial! I feel it’s too big for a dress watch but then again I have 6.25 inches so I can be a little picky. I miss old Seiko 😢
I have the Presage version of your watch SPB067J1 10bar water resist 6r15 movement sapphire lid. The difference it has Presage written above Automatic on the dial. I paid £499 and the movement finishing is a cut above bog standard.
Being a Steinbeck fan all I see when I look at Seiko is that it's Okies spelled backward. Cheers from sunny Florida!
Nice review as always! This one is one of my first Seiko's, and still have it as it's a self-homage of the original Seiko Laurel. Will hold onto it until they get around to releasing a manual-wind, no-date version (preferably on enamel dial). Looks like I'll be holding this one for quite some time. 😉😆
Indeed. If you look at the pics of the original Seiko Laurel it is almost a perfect re-issue, but larger. Was actually looking at the SPB041 (same style but with a power reserve dial at the 9 and date dial at the 6) but found this model closer to the original. Hard to choose which style I want.
This watch is a beauty. Zero comparison with anything available today that even begins to compare, at the price point.
I have 2 Seiko Sea Urchins, one of which is mechanically fine but cosmetically challenged. It's one of my favourite watches
Enjoyed your review. Btw, the design of the SARX041 was based on Seiko's first watch the Laurel. If you track one down you'll see the similarity.
I still have a square salmon dialed chrono from the early 90's. Beautiful, never been serviced, have never seen another one since, malaysian issue that got misshipped with a US crate of Seikos going to a Sam's club. I bought another chrono a few years ago and thought it was fake compared to the quality of my 90's square seiko chrono.
Love this watch, one of the very few of any make with the Breguet numerals of the very first wrist watches (not stylised Arabic) with wr100m. I agree with it being a bit too big.
Very true, I've added x4 discontinued RECENTLY 7S26 Seiko's and x2 have excessive beat errors x1 which varies from 0m/sec to 8.8. The noise pulses picked up on a computer timegrapher tells these are NOT normal even if they keep time within spec. easily. As to Seiko quality factory mass produced assembled or made in Japan these are of low quality with them being hit or miss. Out of x5 Seiko's I've purchased new this year x3 including x1 7S36 are ok & x2 should never have left the factory 🏭.
8:33 the 6R27 movement in that watch is very different from other 6Rs. other than small date and power reserve indicater, it has a 28800bph escapement rather than the usual 21600bph found in normal 6Rs. hence the pricing.
But is it more accurate?
@@tancreddehauteville764 in general higher beat movements are inherently more accurate than lower beat ones. but since at this price range seiko doesn't really adjust or regulate movements, it's all down to luck.
@@Ballacha It's odd. I recently purchased two Seikos with 4R35B movements and they are both +3 seconds after 24 hours, +5 after 36 hours (with no winding). I then tried a watch with a 6R35 and it was 20 seconds fast after 24 hours!!
@@tancreddehauteville764 6r35 has the same beat rate as 4r's. also, like i said, they are all unregulated. so, luck.
@@Ballacha So basically Seiko sell us junk at hugely inflated prices. Wonderful.
Damn Jody, 100 videos in and you still suprise me.
I got an eBay special untested dead Seiko SQ from June 1978 (4336-8089).
After a new battery, resurfacing the chamfered acrylic crystal, and buffing out the scuffs on the case a bit, it has immediately become one of my favorite watches. And it's kinda some basic day/date three hander quartz, no bells or whistles.
The case is pretty, the crystal is neat, the date window is framed with beveled top and bottom edges, the indices are sharp, the hands are not overly cheap or flimsy, there's white contrast paint on all the indices and hands to help visibility against the highly dynamic dial (an olive oil tan/green fume to black with vertical brushing underneath). Applied logos for Seiko and SQ, screw down caseback, great dimensions, and not a speck of dust or damage anywhere beneath the crystal, and no glue or bad tooling to be seen.
The lume even (albeit only for a couple minutes at best) works after all these years.
They SINCERELY don't make them like they used to.
I still have a Seiko 200m divers watch from the mid-nineties which looks imaculate and still works perfectly. Instead of sapphire or mineral it uses Sapphlex crystal which was used by Seiko at the time. Sapphlex was essentially a mineral crystal with a sapphire laminate coating applied to the surface, so you had the scratch resistance of a sapphire crystal with the shatter resistance of a Hardlex crystal. Any idea why Seiko stopped using it? This seems to be another example of Seikos not being as good as they used to be!
I have no idea why they stopped using it,i have a seiko kinetic from 1996 with this type of crystal and i think its a shame that its not used today in seiko divers.
I've got 2 Seikos in my collection. One was given to me by my parents when I graduated high school in the early 90's, and the other one is one I found on Chrono24 that had its serial number dating it to the month and year I was born. So I guess I don't really have any experience with new Seikos.
I get a slightly similar aesthetic with my Orient RA-AC0001S for just £170 (it seems to be at £200 now), but with mineral crystal and no real water resistance. Its F6724 movement has been very consistent for me at +8 seconds per day. I like Seiko, but they do seem to charge top dollar compared to Orient.
I have the chronograph version of this dial with the 8R movement. Paid $1300 for it gray market in NYC and it's still worth the same 3 years later. You can't buy a column wheel chronograph for less.
9:18 Just another reason to buy a Vostok. Thanks Jody.
Looks like a budget Credor especially with that second hand, great pick up mate 👍
Only thing you have mistaken about is the new version with the power reserve and new date at 6. It is vastly better looking, you need to see it in person under good lights how the small details play with the light and make it more interesting. The dial finishing is great. The old plain one looks not worth it anymore. At 600$ it is a great find.
Love my Sarb017 & 035. Two great watches that punch above their weight.
Nice touch with the red 12 o'clock mark.
I couldn't agree more with this video! It seems that Orient became what Seiko once was.
Like your Sinclair Spectrum t-shirt.
Had one as a kid.
Keep up the good work and keep Seiko honest for their own good. As an owner of the ugly one you mentioned and many other seikos I have come to the same opinion but still buy them anyway??? Worse still is I have an spb187 with a bad bezel and just bought an SPB147.
Your reviews are amazing, would love to see you review Orientstar Re AU 0006S00b in comparison with seiko presage and grand seiko snowflake.
Jody, you should check out the presage SRPD97J1/SARY147
38mm case
Textured white dial
Blue seconds hand
SAPPHIRE crystal
4r movement yes, but it works well enough for me.
I still think it's my best seiko buy to date, and that's saying a lot as I managed to buy a brand new SKX013 for a steal!
Good video, and great points about older Seikos. $400-plus for this one? When you first showed the Presage, I thought you were bringing out a low-end Seiko that was one of their bargain bin offerings. Who is Seiko kidding?
I was late to the party and missed out on getting the 033 when it was still in production, did however get the 017, said it before Seiko are taking one step forward and two back !
I like how the first 3 minutes is Jody flexing about how good of a deal he got
So - my thoughts
Alpinist new vs old: I like the new one, it has the 6R35 which has the 70 hour reserve and that makes a big difference, I have several of them and the quality is excellent - price wise - yes they are more expensive but compared to other makers was the SARB017 etc underpriced?
My latest Seiko is the SPB053j the greyish blue 62 MAS - I absolutely love it, picked it up for £550 reduced - £200 on a pair of bracelets - a jubilee and an oyster, it easily competes with the Oris 65 and Chris Ward Trident I own and actually, I prefer it to both. So yes, Seiko are more expensive but you can always find them at lower prices.
I have had no issue with quality on the over £500 watches, I have had some issues with the models below this - Turtle in particular.
Starting to find a few Seiko watches I like. I still wear my dad's old Seiko quartz from time to time. But Seiko watches have, in general gone down on quality and up in price. Great video 👍
Thanks for the video. I still have the Seiko Chrono that my girlfriend (now wife) gave me for my birthday back in the mid-90s. It is a compact size and thickness and quite lightweight, especially compared to the Seiko SBTR027 that I recently bought. Seiko seems to be moving backward as you are not the only reviewer to notice that, in recent years, their prices have gone up and their quality has gone down. I saw a YT video by a luxury watch dealer who proclaimed Grand Seiko as being the next big thing in luxury watches and predicting they would increase in value so perhaps Seiko is putting their energies into developing their luxury line and just milking their cash cow of non-luxury watches. I'd buy more Seikos if they would get their act together. For example, I like the look of the new Seiko Solar Speedtimers (SSCxxx), but for what they are asking ($700USD), shouldn't they have a titanium case? My Casio LCWM-100TSE is solar powered and has a titanium case and bracelet for under $200.
I keep looking for a snkk45. Were fairly cheap new, but now people are asking ridiculous prices for a little seiko 5 with a 7s26. Almost £1k from some sellers!
Remember the days when you could get a sarb035/33 for $350?
I got the 17, 33, 35, and 65 all in the space of a week when I realized they would never offer such quality again. All under $350.
33,35,17 and the SNK for 950 dollars from new.
You read my mind, Jody, as I was just looking at a few Hamilton, "Jazzmaster's," and Tissot, "Couturier's" before watching this video....lol. Still would tend to agree, that the value proposition has decreased for the "almighty Seiko." Enjoyed the video as usual. Keep up the good fight my friend. Cheers
If that exact model you reviewed had been 36mm, I'd rush out and buy one for double MRSP right now. As it stands, I recently picked up a second hand SBQL HAQ Perpetual Calendar to serve as my dressy Seiko - it's as much of a Grand Seiko on a budget as that or the famous SARB.
Dealing mainly with 60s and 70s Seikos with occasional 80s models, and ever so rarely something like an SKX, I have seen a progression of money saving assembling strategies Seiko has used over the generations. With the 7S26 and further being junk, along with the quality control issues of a lot of modern models, I’ll stick to the vintage stuff. The old 6xxx and 7xxx series of dress watches, 5 models and divers are superb. Yeah, the lume sucks, but the watch doesn’t.
Agree 100%. I've worked on dozens of mid 1960s-early 70s Seiko movements (I used to live in Japan so they are cheap and easy ot come by) and they were MUCH better made than modern movements. The 1963-68 62XX series are my personal favorites, and are absolute works of art in terms of quality construction. I have several 6218 and 6206-driven "Weekdaters" and similar variants, which I absolutely love.
The 'modern' 7s26 stuff and everything thereafter are good solid 'agricultural' movements, but plastic cogs do nothing for me. Kind of funny hoe hear Jodie say that a 2017 watch is 'old' :) But he does have a point, they seem to be going in a very weird direction...
@@davidwarren9204 yeah, I clicked the video expecting to see some vintage Seikos. So that surprised me a little too.
Those 6xxx series movements took a lot of ideas from Swiss assembly and quality. Even down to the way the screws sit in the bridges or cocks before you screw them in. The quality of the steels used for those bridges and cocks is far superior. The way all the parts fit, even on decades old worn out movements still have better qualities with end shake and tolerances. Of course, ignoring barrel arbor holes requiring some tightening up.
i have a seiko bellmatic 6080 in white and it is one of the nicest ones i have
They were a force in the 60s, 70s and 80s for functionality and value. Originals like the 62MAS, 6105, 6309. 6306, 7548/9 and 7C43/6. Nowadays you're better off buying a couple of good period pieces and then concentrate on Casio for current stuff. Chuck in the odd Citizen.
I have an SKX, Turtle, and Samurai and I love them. With that said I am so completely down with Seiko and their greed. I just searched the internet and they released 163 new watches this year. And, as you mentioned, with reduced specs. I'll stick with my well speced classics.
Ever since the classic SNK809 was discontinued, prices have risen to unreasonable amounts! I flipped mine since I came to loathe the lack of hacking and hand-winding and the poor WR of 3 ATM. Its successor, the SPRG27, comes with the necessary improvements - but gone is the neat size and design of the SNK at an equally high price point. I don't find the value in Seiko anymore, sadly!
I was looking at the Baby Tunas that StarBuy got in yesterday - $550 for a 4R with a hardlex crystal.
Honestly, who looks at that and thinks "Good value!"?
Great video! Seiko, in their part of the world, has stiff competition, and they have had to cut corners, for sure.That is why I would/will bypass Seiko and go Hamilton. That being said, my new Seiko SBSA041 is superior to anything in the 200-300 price range. Its my favorite, up to 4k.
That 40mm white dialed piece would look gigantic on my wrist- would look at home at the train station.
Dude!
Chicks will come up an ask what time it is.
Player One Mate!
You know what time it is.
I have about fifty vintage Seikos, mostly chronographs from the 1970s. Still nothing like these anywhere.
I have sort of gotten off Seiko the past couple of years because of the look. Have to say that is a lovely watch.
I bought and sold the pr version of this early in the year. Super watch
I have an older Presage Cocktail time in my collection, and it is the only Seiko I own. I do not like Seiko's new direction with charging higher prices and not really getting much in return. The older Seiko's were a much better value. The dial is stunning, the 4R movement is fine, and at $275 it was a killer deal from Amazon.
I agree old Seiko's were better. Lately I have been into old Seiko 5's, 37mm case 11mm thick, hugs wrist and the 7S26 is darn accurate in my experience. I especially like the black military dial versions. Been wearing them on the Tropic 20mm Black, which is actually a 19mm and works magnificently and is buttery soft.
That watch is very beatiful! I think is one of the best Presages Seiko has launched!
At the end of the day I buy a watch because I like the look of it and how I think it will wear on me personally. I don't buy a watch because of the movement, crystal material, whether it has a signed crown, solid end links, etc. Don't be put off by a watches specs as long as you are not getting properly ripped off! Just enjoy your watches. We all know there is a huge mark-up on watches in general especially the established brands we can see that from the micro brands and sale time discounts. However unlike most so called "Swiss Made" brands if you are prepared to wait you can usually find most Seikos for a good price in the end. I bought my zen garden for £225, if I remember correctly I think it was from Goldsmiths, it has a sapphire crystal, solid links, solid end links, and a totally unique dial and indices. It runs at +6/7 seconds a day, I'm not going to go swimming in it so what's to get upset about. All my 4Rs run at about this, a couple are even virtually spot on only +2/3 seconds a week. By the way, H Samuel have the "Martini" Cocktail time currently at £200 not my cup of tea but an excellent buy for someone.
I own several Seikos: 2 SZSBs (A white dial, and a black/gilt dial), an SRPG Field Watch, an SRPE "Dress KX", and a Prospex Turtle. I've been impressed with them all, with one noted exception - the brand new turtle I purchased came with the notorious misaligned chapter ring. It is so annoying paying near $400 for that BS that Seiko let's out the door. But, I did...sigh.
I will be adding a saphire, so I'll have my watch shop correct that issue. Still, what a pisser...I cuss that damn turtle watch every time I put it on.
In any event, outside of that, I've been very happy with the 4R movements. I'm considering purchasing a watch with a 6R movement but have heard many mixed reviews on them so I'm in a holding pattern for the moment.
Oth, I need to add a nice chronograph to my collection and am considering the Seiko Speedtimer. I like the look and size of it. I love Seikos, but my brand new turtle has left a bad taste in my mouth. Are there any QC issues that you're aware of with regards to the speedtimer?
Anyway, recent subscriber but have really enjoyed your videos. Nice watch you presented here. Kind regards, and much respect to you Sir.
I tried flipping a deployant clasp "backwards" and I won't go back! Japanese traditions aside, it's a case of form following function. It moves the wad of excess strap and keepers out of the way, and is much more comfortable for typing and desktop work.
i bought the SPB059 in 2021. didn't know how much i wouldn't like the power reserve indicator or date complications. at least i didn't pay $845
I wish more brands would do a 3 o'clock date with arabics like this - no date window slapped on top of the 3 numeral and cutting a chunk out of it.
A wonderful watch, but I just can't take the frilly font for the Arabic numbers.
No notification, not showing when I select Subscriptions on phone Only spotted in sidebar of desktop webpage.. Its an aggro-rythm
Jody, I agree with you. The SPB039 was the one that I didn’t pull the trigger on but should have. As others have said, it is a homage to the original Seiko Laurel from 1913. The most current iteration is the SJE075J1. It has the newer 6L35A movement, A-R coated box sapphire crystal over a porcelain dial and measures 39.5mm x 46.9mm x 10.9mm with 20mm lugs. But the price is a choking $3,300.00 USD.
It's over over priced, isn't it? I have the spb039 which i think looks better than the new one..
It's not overpriced considering it's basically a grand Seiko with our grand on the dial. It might be worth actually holding an SJE model before regurgitating a meme.
When you take into account discounts to be found on SJE models they are a bargain. My SJE079 was on offer for £1800 with a beautiful shippo enamel dial. Nothing in the same price range competes against it for finish and artisan craftsmanship
@@pk1342 While I appreciate your opinion, I’m sorry to say I do feel it is overpriced for what you get. There is no denying that Seiko makes the best dials in the business. And with your discount, you still paid $2276.00 USD for a watch that should be price below $1000.00 USD for what you get and what Seiko used to give you before they started swimming upmarket. I am a big Seiko fan and they make up most of my collection. But comparing to what micro brands give you and the economies of scale that Seiko operate, they could do better on the price. Money is an asset that should be used wisely.
@@acftmxman the dial of my watch is made using an extremely delicate enameling technique, which results in multiple failed dials before a successful one is even made and it is hand made by an artisan enamel expert at ando cloisonne.
Please show me a watch for less than $1000 with a cloisonne dial.
The SJE079 provides a cloisonne dial, zaratsu polishing, crocodile strap and a high quality movement at $2000. If you want anything on this level from the Swiss your paying triple to quadruple. And I don't know a microbrand that does cloisonne dials for sub 1000.
You should review the one with the porcelain dial.
100%. Look at Jobs' Seiko. They had hope in em, they shined. Now I don't feel any soul in em.
40mm though!? Nope. That dial makes the watch look like a Swiss army $20 watch!
Question to anyone.Whats the difference between a 4R and 6R movement. Both have dates .I have heard that the 6 R is a bit of a dog actually telling the right time.
ZX Spectrum rules!!!!!
In my collection of 50+ I have 7 Seiko’s. Every one of them has been discontinued. I still buy new watches(often). I just don’t buy new Seiko watches! Thanks Jody!
I am slightly divided on this one, I agree that prices are going up whilst QC and specs seem to have gone down which is never defendable, however outside the enthusiast market, and let’s be honest, there’s more of them than us, Seiko stock is still high enough to be able to get the sales at these prices. I think it’s a shame, my SNK805 is evidence that you can make a decent watch at affordable prices, but that isn’t where the big profits are.
Very nice review Jody. 😊
Good Point....Older Ones are another Level...
what about a review for enamel or porcelain dial variants?
The zenith of Seiko was late 60s to late 70s. These pieces can be much better than todays offering.
check the vintage seikos. cronos, crown, gold feather , marvel, champion, seikomatic, sportsmatic, to really evaluate the real quality of seiko .