ballzasspower Well said. This, like his other "reviews" are light years beyond any other shows on YT or TV. If you want to be entertained, watch Grand Tour. If you are a true car enthusiast want to really learn about a car, nobody covers a car like this guy. The research is very in depth, and the film production is at such a high level.
Just found your channel. Such fantastic and in-depth reviews offered no where else on TH-cam that I've seen. Videography was soo good! The underbody and technical knowledge was top notch as well as totally unique in car reviews. Keep up the fantastic work and look forward to watching more!!!!!
Good job Geese :) i was just saying to my wife that you are one of the rare breed of guys who can rev match. Since i sold my mazda 3 manual i don't get that luxury anymore.
as a 350 track package owner I have to agree with pretty much everything you've said. Initially I was somewhat disappointed to not be able to get an R but after you sit down and work out the numbers and factor in I was able to my 350 at sticker and that's impossible with an R. I disagree on oil as the only oil I believe meets Ford's specs for the 350 outside of the Motorcraft is Amsoil. The interior honestly doesn't bother me. I would like sync 3 but that wasn't an option for me on a 16. The 17 owners won't have to worry about that issue. Overall one of the better reviews I've watched on the car. Also as far as the base R's are by far the rarest as most have the electronics package.
Glad you enjoyed it and yes while the R seems good on paper the mark up makes no sense. And you easily take the best things from the R (wheels aside) and make the 350 the same. I don't know too many people who run OEM oil for track use on any car until you get into higher end cars. But in all fairness I went off the fact that motorcraft oil tends to lose its viscosity rating faster the hotter it gets compared to redline, Ams etc. But truthfully I did not go looking for VOAs and UOAs from the 350 Motor yet. I would buy the R as the base, what about you?
+savagegeese I would buy an R as a base, simply for the collectibility aspect. Having the track package car I've already adjusted to not using a radio. The a/c would be the hardest to live without for street use. I honestly feel that if functionality is what someone is after then the track package or base 2017 will suit your needs perfectly. If more tire is needed then buy a set of forgeline ga1r's (within 2lbs of the R carbon wheels) and some R compound rubber. You can always add the aero bits and front springs if you so desired. A company is already working on tuning the magnaride to cater to adjustments made to suspension components/tires etc. I agree 100% on panel fit and finish and have to have my drivers door adjusted as it is identical to the R in this video. I also found a couple of small paint imperfections that I will have addressed. I don't have any rattles to speak of currently nor does a friend who has a 350.. however I expect that they will come and I will try to handle those as the develop. At the end of the day I feel like the car is impossible to match for the money and am very pleased with it.
Nice video! Helped me confirm why I won't buy a GT350R. Most people who track from time to time still mostly need a good GT car. I don't see this as a good GT car at least for me, you don't need those wheels or the sticky tires, don't need the extra cost, and don't need "less for more". Why? To go 5 seconds faster around your local track? That's just ego. The regular GT350 with the track pack is the right choice for me and likely 90 percent of the typical buyers. However I would not even buy the GT350 in the current inflated price state.
Shows up at the track. "Hey Gary, who's the guy with the goose shirt? We gonna let him track the GT350? You sure?" haha "You're actually pretty good. You should be teaching me." The SavageGeese-"Thanks"
Man this guy is super negative…panel gap this, orange peel that. The GT350 R is NOT inexpensive. However, if any European manufacturer built a car that performed this well, it would cost $120k instead of $70k. Oh yeah, you can purchase this performance from a European manufacture, the Porsche 911 Carrera S will give you similar track times and cost well over 6 figures. This is a lot of car for $70k sir. Would you prefer Ford clean up those tiny imperfections and ask $120k for this car? Be sure they could and they would still sell them all. Let’s celebrate how great this car is. Let’s celebrate American efficiency, enabling Ford to sell this monster for $70k. Nobody is buying this car concerned about a panel gap JACK
You'd actually be hard pressed to find one of his videos that isn't filled with comments of people saying it's production quality is the best/best review ever etc etc and it makes me so happy because much of TH-cam is a bunch of dicks, so it's nice to see that people can recognize high quality work and sing it's praises
How do clowns like Doug de Mouro and Motortrend have more viewers and subs than you? Your videos and production quality are genius. It makes “professional” car shows look shit. The car community needs to support you to grow.
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I think it's pretty pretentious to say that one style is the right and the others are clowns. I love both Doug and Savagegeese for their respective styles. They have more viewers and subs because they are entertaining and accessible in their own ways.
Man this guy is good, I have watch so many car reviewers but this guy is really good, he is showing everything about the car good and bad, all the details that he is giving.
Check out all his other videos, honestly you don't even have to like the car in question, you'll notice in every one there are comments hailing his videos as the best ever, and for good reason, I hope he ascends to the ranks his quality deserves, he deserves much more recognition. Road and Track should really be featuring his stuff in an article all the time before Regular Car Reviews, whom I love, but is on a totally different level
There is a sad tone (like being smart and conscious makes you depressive in life) in this videos, I love it. I find these videos very informative yet artistic and you are very relateable. Subbed
One of the finest “mini documentaries” about the GT 350 I have ever watched. One becomes so used to a standard car review on You Tube that it’s such a pleasure to watch the talent you bring to this product. You covered every aspect of this car from front to back top to bottom the good and the not so good along with what could have been. Your track experience compared to daily street drive was an interesting comparison including the tire ware segment. Truly enjoyed your work and was well educated on the GT 350.
Great video! I bought a 2019 GT350R partly because I consider it a last hurrah for me for V8, manual transmission pony cars. It never fails to put a smile on my face.
By far THE best car review channel on TH-cam. I do guns, you do cars. I love both. Thanks for all the time you put into your videos, I know what it takes.
I daily drive a Porsche 997S and wanted to add something more exciting for the track/weekend. Picked up a 2016 GT350 Track Pack last January, over 9,000 miles already. Immense machine, highly capable, beautiful lines, and incredible performance. The Flat Plane Crank engine is the icing on the cake. The Shelby GT350 is among the greatest sport coupes made in the last 25 years. If you have the means I highly suggest it.
I've been asked this before and it's very difficult for me to decide as I've had the Porsche for 7 years and driven across the United States and back in it. The GT350 gets my pick for the track and excitement, the Porsche gets my pick for a sporty daily driver. Entirely different driving dynamics, they make a great pair, would suck to lose either.
@Gearz70 that's incorrect. They share the exact same engine, transmission, widebody etc. The R has no backseats, different wheels (carbon fiber), larger wing and R compound tires.
I managed to get one (2018) at $3k over list. I got a second set of wheels/tires to save the carbon fiber wheels for the track. It's been a blast to own. I can let the interior pass because the car is so good.
Carroll Shelby said his vision was to build cars so hardworking citizens could afford and compete with high end sports cars . The 2013 gt 500 is the best mustang so far 662 hp , carbon fiber drive shaft , and 5.8 l v8 with decent fuel economy .and all for around 50 k nowadays.
Youre not serious are you..? That thing is a boat anchor. Its over powered with a huge heat machine on top of it and it steers like a 6 wheeled wagon. Even in a straight line its about useless, unless you put slicks on it. Even then it doesnt make a good drag car. And if you want to know they really arent that fast. I played with one out on the local freeway and couple years back My bike by no means is a rocket. The new 1 liter super bikes have to lift and wait for me to catch up. Mine is 132hp @ the wheel, and the GT 500 was in my way as we jumped on it and I was planing on following him through traffic. I lifted, paused, and then drilled 3rd gear from about a 90mph roll and that was the last I saw of him. So those for the most part are a car that did its job. Its all smoke and mirrors to get guys like you to think they great. When in fact they are not. And fyi Im a ford guy top to bottom
@Oggy I have a 2000 Suzuki Bandit with a big bore kit, (1216cc) fully ported head, Yosh pipe, 38mm carbs, like I said it makes 132hp @ the wheel. But it also makes 109ft lbs. It runs.. plenty fast enough to get me in trouble.
There's not a lot of cars left that prioritize the joy of driving over the amenities of the interior. That's the niche this car fills, and Ford gets that.
Rattles or cheap looking are an issue though. The interiour in my 99 s2000 is simple but purposeful and no rattles after 20yrs ownership. Some of these issues aren't related to budget/price but to paying attention during design. Geese is right, there is room for improvement. But I agree with the strategy of keeping certain things at cost like not installing too many expensive parts from factor like CF drive shaft.
@@TheChannel1978 that's because it costs much more to build the factory that makes the vehicle fit precise than it does to design the car to be precise fitting.
Haha that's what I was thinking. Most means, at the very least, more than half. I don't see cars of this price point sitting in half the driveways in America.
@@dchawk81 He means you could afford it if you wanted to. If you think you can't, it's because you either don't want to afford it, or you are a lazy shit that doesn't work very hard for the things you want in life.
He said middle to high middle class income. So hey get a 70k a year job no kids and you might be able to squeeze by with the payments and insurance and maintenance.
24:50 Where other reviewers use a GoPro or other action camera we have a full blown mirrorless setup with external audio. Gotta respect the amount of work and investment this man puts into his craft. 👍🏼
Filming my review on the GT350R Heritage today. As always you’re one of the best reviewers in the game and having watched this years ago and coming back this a.m was full circle for me.
This is hands down the best review I've seen on this amazing car. Just an absolutely fantastic job. When the big boys come knocking on your door, resist the temptation to change your format to something they suggest. You've nailed it. In Canada, the GT350R is just under 90g's CAN MSRP, but it's the same up here with dealer mark ups and they typically go for 120 grand or so. I love it but I guess I'll be waiting several years before I can afford even a nicely used one.
I believe this is a 2016 R model? The base 2016 GT350 didnt even come with MagneRide but or the added coolers. The 2017+ GT350 has all the R parts (MagneRide, coolers etc) minus the carbon fiber wheels, rear spoiler, and Cup 2's. It's one of the reasons why 2017+ models are sought after vs base 2016's. Also make sure the car has the new motor/fix if you're searching for a used one.
Actually those alum hubs are that way because they do not want the same problem they had with the Cobra R at the track. The hub assembly would flex, then a bump during a corner while on the brakes(?) - BOOM! Blown brake rotors yet everyone wanted to blame Brembo. Yeah steering feel is the generic answer but that lack of rigidity meant the new track focused Mustang needed to be much better. The flexing hub was a huge problem that Brembo identified and Ford had a big problem taking responsibility for - lesson learned . Good walkaround on the car.
I will buy one before I die. What an awesome overview of the GT350R. Really appreciate your video, this car from people whom actually bought one including Jay Leno, I have not heard anything bad except for the plastic and the small imperfections with the gaps it's a bad ass car...
I would buy a 350, but not a 350R, because I don’t do track days. I can appreciate the R for what it is, but it’s overkill for street use. Plus I’m not rich. ;-)
For anyone considering an R, I've got 6000 miles on my 2016 R. I drive the shit out of it every day, track the snot out of it and it's every bit as good as he says it is. I track it regularly and now I can die happy. I'd like to say that the reason the presenter was getting so much tram lining is the alignment settings are notoriously off from the factory. I got mine aligned and it tracks straight as an arrow at the expense of slightly diminished turn in. Too much tow out from the factory and no camber.. so CC plates/alignment are an essential first modification. I'm on my original cup 2 tires from ford w 6000 miles, 3 track days and they're still good in the rear, they even a few light burnouts in them.(I know.. not driving fast enough) Fronts needed replaced at 1000 miles because of the FUBAR factory alignment settings. The tires are sticky and kick up rocks so paint pro film is essential. The seats are tight at first but the bolsters relax and become very comfortable (now I know why Recaros cost so much). Even with the ADMs that the dealerships are asking I think the car is worth it, I paid 92, cash, out the door for mine and I don't regret it one fuckin' bit. "This car is fucking insane."
+GunfightersINC Thats really good to hear you love it. Special car for sure. I really wished manufacturer had adjustable camber from factory it is so annoying to have to go and modify a car just to get a good alignment. Keep me updated on your ownership.
I agree completely, it's absurd that a car this track focused doesn't have alignment adjustments from the factory ..*coughMIATAcough*. But, once you get it sorted this car is an animal. Thank you for such great content as this is, hands down, the best GT350R review online. Drive safe.
I don’t understand why the mechanic is in these videos. He barely speaks besides cringeworthy jokes like the “race gear.” Savage geese does all the research and knows everything. There’s no need for the mechanic to lend credibility, especially when he adds next to nothing.
i can only imagine what the 2018-19 GT-500 is going to be like. if ford put as much effort into the GT-500 as they did the GT-350(R),,holy cow those bowtie boys gonna be crying when there ZL1/1LE gets its doors blown off,,and all of the 25 million metric tons of bondo that holds them pieces of chit together gets blown out the sides of them,,ill be a happy man. and im shure CARROL SHELBY and HENRY FORD senior will be smiling looking over there mustangs from up above. and the G.M. boys better get ready to start seeing the looks of these mustangs from the rear,,it's the only part of the car theyre gonna see anyways. and the mustang guys will have a view of the front grill of any of these new cumaros from therear view mirror. a repeat of the 1980's. i only seen trash am's,,firechickenchit's,,and crapmaros in my rear view mirror,,had to squint too,,they were so far behind me,,,:) :)
EXTIQUE are you seriously that um idk fanboyism is killing me here so the gt500 has to beat the zl1 1le and that's a ring time of 7:16 second hp and torque won't accomplish this alone if Ford does it congrats give to a reason to slam the new lt5 into a z28 or put a na high revin high hp engine in it lose more weight not nonsense no comfort and demolish the gt500 good of that give Ford a reason to demolish the z/28 good competition is great for this community
OMG, YOU ARE KILLING THEM WITH THESE SUPERD WELL PUT TOGETHER REVIEWS MY FRIEND AND YOUR TEAM, YOU GUYS REALLY DESERVED MORE VIEWS ON THIS CRAZY GOOD INFORMATIVE REVIEWS, IT FEELS LIKE IM WATCHING A MOVIE ABOUT THE Ford GT350, awesome awesome awesome stuff guys
I think one of the biggest problems is most people are going to short shift it around 6 k , take a while to get used to a 8 grand rev limit and keep it over 6500 .
I just picked up a 17 GT350 on Sunday - just an absolutely amazing car! I can completely empathize when you expressed what I'd only use to describe this car so viscerally: "fucking insane." Yup, that about sums it up. And I've maybe had her to maybe 4,500 RPM. Great video, amongst one of the best I've seen in a while - even if I'm bias towards the car.
I like how you say it's an affordable sports car. But over here in Australia 2 yrs later they are trying to sell the 2016 etc for $220k. The price of a small apartment. They do sit on the car sales sites forever mind you. There are some dreamers out there. If I bought one of these I would buy another set of wheels for road use. Of Course, if I owned one of these I would have a garage full of cars I could use as daily drivers.
I don't know why you get shafted so badly in Oz for cars. I live in NZ and markup for US cars is ridiculous also but somehow in Australia it is always worse. You'd think a large country would depend on affordable import cars but I guess not
"If you are not a muscle car person, this [car] may actually convert you" spot on where I sit with this car. I consider it much more than just a "muscle car"
As a Mustang owner for the last 25 years (several along the way), I’ve probably bought my last one. After being offered a GT350 for $25,000 over sticker, I decided that the Mustang has moved up market and now I shall hold it to a higher standard. I have had as much fun if not more with the Jaguar F Type R. As a side effect of moving up market myself, I have discovered the benefit of much better fit and finish. With the F Type, the exhaust is just as obnoxious, or not, with the flick of a switch. Plus it looks amazing. I get that Ford was trying to build an awesome track car, but for the price the Cayman GT4 is within reach.
GT350 can still improve, buy why don't ford do it? Well, let me tell you. why. Because it's Ford. For the last few years, Ford's business strategy had change so much. Just look at the Ford GT and the full line of Ecoboost engine. While Ford began to focus on the world market, Chevrolet and Dodge still live in the past. Back in 2012, Boss 302 was deemed the the best American sport car. Then the competition began... Z28, Hellcat, Ford was beat to the bottom and Boss 302 became a joke. But the truth is that the S197 Mustang still has so much potential that Boss 302 is simply a semi-finished product. You would believe how fast the Boss 302 become with better suspension setups and tires. Now, after the Ford released the GT350, we got to know that Boss 302 was just a project that Ford tested before's GT350's R&D. The final product is simply amazing. With above average brake and Cup 2 tires, GT350R beat the Z28, which has the overkill carbon ceramic brake and the best R-comp tires Trofeo R. I heard that Z28's tires and brakes are so powerfull that tires will spin around the wheel at full brake. At this gen, GT350 is just too good to compare with, and of course Ford won't waste money on upgrading the car until the next Z28 come out. And that my friends, it's why. At the end of the day, it's hard to justify Ford's strategy. It broke lots of Mustang fans' heart. The GT350 is ridiculously over price by the market. With 100-130 grands, most people rather buy 2 z28 or a corvette. It's true lol, I know a friend who bought a used C7 Z06 because the Ford dealer won't agree to sell their GT350 for 90 grands......
I'm glad you touched on all the quality issues and didn't just focus on the amazing performance/engine/sweet Tremec/that exhaust note and the killer looks as so many reviewers do. It's no secret the formula Ford used to bring a world class performer to market at this price, they cut corners/cost everywhere that does not affect performance. While the interior materials are very poor I do think the ergonomics are excellent as is the Sync 3 although I'm surprised you didn't mention the blasphemy of having "Sync" stamped into the bezel of the shiftier instead of "Tremec".
Very good report, but you need to do some additional home work on the Cup2 tires. Most guys are getting a minimum of 10k miles out of these with a correct alignment. I use both the Cup 2’s and Hoosier R8’s on the track and the R8 tires out perform the Cup 2’s very time!! Softer and more sticky compound.
Bruv love the comment about the twerking asses girls lol ohh fawk 7 years later im still laughing watching this for the 10th time... I am picking up one of these soon.. Would love for you to come drive some of my rides some time. your the best YT out there.. CALi Gearhead JOE here.
@@savagegeese i drive 2012 mazda 2 w 100hp, 94ftlbs at4000k. Ive never been tossed from a bar, yet i have been from a dealership!!! Then the safety from Quebec came, i translated the safety and it was a the same, with strict rules re: steering Steve O is Old man. told me he balanced my tires (on a hoist?) he said nothing as the car thunked back. Two days later master mechanic drove it 20 ft and new exactly what the issue was. $42 part...mazda canada never again
I have been searching and looking around for some GT350s and the rear differential cooler came up soon after, advices to be careful about it (I got a GT that I track and I have issues with it at times). I’m not a car mechanics literate but it was hard just to find how a rear diff cooler looks. This was it, this was the video that no algorithm picked up, no searches picked up, no suggestions, nothing… not even by being subscribed already… but glad to have bumped into it because this is the ultimate GT350R review, even so many years later.
MY god, This is my first video I've seen from this guy, and I would like to say HOW REFRESHING! I am so sick of every single fanboy review on TH-cam. Finally someone who takes this shit seriously and know what they are talking about. Takes the car from every angle talks about everything good with it and everything bad about it
I had a set of Michelin Cup 2 tires on my Boxster - rear ones went to shreds after ~2,400 miles.... This is a ~320bhp car. Did just one track day + 6 Auto-X events. Rest were street miles.
Every car either "lacks connection with the driver and excitement" or is "so overkill" ... It's like no car is good enough and I don't get it. The 350R is badass and that's coming from a Camaro guy
@@savagegeese that may be true Savage but you've got some really high standards due to your exposure to all the wonderful cars you review, lol. For the average Joe not so much is noticable. You've got great taste and looks like you can put up some great lap times on the track but still not so obtainable for the average joe. Hell most people cant even drive a manual now days.
I saw this video by pure luck and i cannot believe how good this car reviewer is, he's much more factual and analytical to present cars, this guy should be in the teams of Motor Trend seriously and will get even bigger chance of giving more details of circuit reviews
And he’s right about the GT350.... I drive mine hard.... bounce off the rev limiter... melt the tires till they blow out.... and the car laughs at the abuse!
Calling this a review is an insult to your work. Epic GT 350 film you have great talent.
ballzasspower Well said. This, like his other "reviews" are light years beyond any other shows on YT or TV. If you want to be entertained, watch Grand Tour. If you are a true car enthusiast want to really learn about a car, nobody covers a car like this guy. The research is very in depth, and the film production is at such a high level.
My favorite automotive reviewer. Excellent content
I agree. He is the best.
@@mk2mister2: Not only light years, but parsecs beyond!
:D
OUCH!!! I thought he did well. :(
One of the best car reviews I have ever seen. I just subscribed, keep up the great work!
Just found your channel. Such fantastic and in-depth reviews offered no where else on TH-cam that I've seen. Videography was soo good! The underbody and technical knowledge was top notch as well as totally unique in car reviews. Keep up the fantastic work and look forward to watching more!!!!!
The amount of info you deliver...unbelievable.
Good job Geese :) i was just saying to my wife that you are one of the rare breed of guys who can rev match. Since i sold my mazda 3 manual i don't get that luxury anymore.
+Live4drive Thanks, its one reason I manual trans, the envolvement of it. You have to get a manual again some day before they vaporize.
as a 350 track package owner I have to agree with pretty much everything you've said. Initially I was somewhat disappointed to not be able to get an R but after you sit down and work out the numbers and factor in I was able to my 350 at sticker and that's impossible with an R. I disagree on oil as the only oil I believe meets Ford's specs for the 350 outside of the Motorcraft is Amsoil. The interior honestly doesn't bother me. I would like sync 3 but that wasn't an option for me on a 16. The 17 owners won't have to worry about that issue. Overall one of the better reviews I've watched on the car. Also as far as the base R's are by far the rarest as most have the electronics package.
Glad you enjoyed it and yes while the R seems good on paper the mark up makes no sense. And you easily take the best things from the R (wheels aside) and make the 350 the same. I don't know too many people who run OEM oil for track use on any car until you get into higher end cars. But in all fairness I went off the fact that motorcraft oil tends to lose its viscosity rating faster the hotter it gets compared to redline, Ams etc. But truthfully I did not go looking for VOAs and UOAs from the 350 Motor yet.
I would buy the R as the base, what about you?
+savagegeese I would buy an R as a base, simply for the collectibility aspect. Having the track package car I've already adjusted to not using a radio. The a/c would be the hardest to live without for street use. I honestly feel that if functionality is what someone is after then the track package or base 2017 will suit your needs perfectly. If more tire is needed then buy a set of forgeline ga1r's (within 2lbs of the R carbon wheels) and some R compound rubber. You can always add the aero bits and front springs if you so desired. A company is already working on tuning the magnaride to cater to adjustments made to suspension components/tires etc. I agree 100% on panel fit and finish and have to have my drivers door adjusted as it is identical to the R in this video. I also found a couple of small paint imperfections that I will have addressed. I don't have any rattles to speak of currently nor does a friend who has a 350.. however I expect that they will come and I will try to handle those as the develop. At the end of the day I feel like the car is impossible to match for the money and am very pleased with it.
Nice video! Helped me confirm why I won't buy a GT350R. Most people who track from time to time still mostly need a good GT car. I don't see this as a good GT car at least for me, you don't need those wheels or the sticky tires, don't need the extra cost, and don't need "less for more". Why? To go 5 seconds faster around your local track? That's just ego. The regular GT350 with the track pack is the right choice for me and likely 90 percent of the typical buyers. However I would not even buy the GT350 in the current inflated price state.
Very good, indepth review..... good work TB
Love your FC Bayern Munich hat. My favorite soccer team.
Shows up at the track.
"Hey Gary, who's the guy with the goose shirt? We gonna let him track the GT350? You sure?"
haha
"You're actually pretty good. You should be teaching me."
The SavageGeese-"Thanks"
Man this guy is super negative…panel gap this, orange peel that. The GT350 R is NOT inexpensive. However, if any European manufacturer built a car that performed this well, it would cost $120k instead of $70k. Oh yeah, you can purchase this performance from a European manufacture, the Porsche 911 Carrera S will give you similar track times and cost well over 6 figures. This is a lot of car for $70k sir. Would you prefer Ford clean up those tiny imperfections and ask $120k for this car? Be sure they could and they would still sell them all. Let’s celebrate how great this car is. Let’s celebrate American efficiency, enabling Ford to sell this monster for $70k. Nobody is buying this car concerned about a panel gap JACK
It shows lack of commitment to QA, something Ford as a company should be more concerned about on a "flagship" sports car. Its plain laziness, period.
Best Car reviews on TH-cam. Shit any network!
Mustang GT PP2 is 350 as far as autocross and occasional track day?
I love the Ford t-shirt! lol
I get about 7500 miles out of my cup 2 tires in my gt350r. I even tracked twice and did some auto cross. Just FYI
Ballislife has a GT350, that's cool af to me
@@skillibo1 dude has class
Not too baf
@@rm0234 so what did you pay for your car ? don't lie ok, we'll do our research to decide if we believe you.......
He's a liar
The best and most detailed review I've ever seen about a GT350R, great job.
You'd actually be hard pressed to find one of his videos that isn't filled with comments of people saying it's production quality is the best/best review ever etc etc and it makes me so happy because much of TH-cam is a bunch of dicks, so it's nice to see that people can recognize high quality work and sing it's praises
The most underrated channel on youtube.
I've only recently found this channel, and don't want to jump the gun, but I think he may be the best detailed reviewer out there.
WHAT TIRES WOULD U RECCOMEND FOR STREET DRIVING --
“I wish we could teach people to do the stick shifting like that. We might actually keep stick shifts around.” Boom! Fantastic!
Bryce Hodge
The joy of driving.
You wish people would ride the pedal and wear out the throw out bearing?
How do clowns like Doug de Mouro and Motortrend have more viewers and subs than you? Your videos and production quality are genius. It makes “professional” car shows look shit. The car community needs to support you to grow.
Alex Fragoyannis All 76 people who have given your comment a thumbs up can share this video on their FB or whatever social media company they use. That would help out. I’ll do it!
you jus called daddy doug a clown, unexceptable!
Because Doug knows most people don’t care about the technical aspects as much as quirks
I think it's pretty pretentious to say that one style is the right and the others are clowns. I love both Doug and Savagegeese for their respective styles. They have more viewers and subs because they are entertaining and accessible in their own ways.
I predict this guy’s channel get’s huge.
Man this guy is good, I have watch so many car reviewers but this guy is really good, he is showing everything about the car good and bad, all the details that he is giving.
HAHA you blurred out your speedometer well done mate.
That's a new law in Mexico. You have to blur it out on camera
@@DemHighTimes for real ? Why ?
The intros keep getting better and better, not to mention the video.
+zollotech The next videos will slide back a bit. Thanks though!
What's it like being the lead singer of Tool, having a vineyard AND being the best youtube car reviewer?
This is the greatest comment ever.
@@gordonmccracken1209 That's what the geese are for actually, groupie discouragement. Being on the title card's just a bonus.
This is what a review should be. Subscribed.
The quality of this video is like something that you would see on a TV channel with a professional film crew. Liked and subbed! Nice work man :)
One of the best automotive reviews I have ever seen. Excellent work.
i agree.
Indeed, great and deep review, looking for much more interesting elements, then all others, honestly pointed and its criticism seems to be fair
+Ryszard Koprowski this is a big 10-4...especially when he mentioned about the rocks picking up on the sticky tires!great work indeed!
Check out all his other videos, honestly you don't even have to like the car in question, you'll notice in every one there are comments hailing his videos as the best ever, and for good reason, I hope he ascends to the ranks his quality deserves, he deserves much more recognition. Road and Track should really be featuring his stuff in an article all the time before Regular Car Reviews, whom I love, but is on a totally different level
Free...He does better videos than Road & Track or Car & Driver. Motor Trend made excellent vids for a second but now they are slipping.
There is a sad tone (like being smart and conscious makes you depressive in life) in this videos, I love it. I find these videos very informative yet artistic and you are very relateable. Subbed
se taps Is that what I was liking about him? Goddamn you said it perfectly.
Idk if depresive is the right word..
One of the finest “mini documentaries” about the GT 350 I have ever watched. One becomes so used to a standard car review on You Tube that it’s such a pleasure to watch the talent you bring to this product. You covered every aspect of this car from front to back top to bottom the good and the not so good along with what could have been. Your track experience compared to daily street drive was an interesting comparison including the tire ware segment. Truly enjoyed your work and was well educated on the GT 350.
Five years later and I still wish I could afford this car..
Great video! I bought a 2019 GT350R partly because I consider it a last hurrah for me for V8, manual transmission pony cars. It never fails to put a smile on my face.
Do you still love it? There’s one near me and thinking about buying it…
After watching this video, I went straight to the Ford dealer and bought a new GT350.
The sound is so brutal
By far THE best car review channel on TH-cam. I do guns, you do cars. I love both. Thanks for all the time you put into your videos, I know what it takes.
I daily drive a Porsche 997S and wanted to add something more exciting for the track/weekend. Picked up a 2016 GT350 Track Pack last January, over 9,000 miles already. Immense machine, highly capable, beautiful lines, and incredible performance. The Flat Plane Crank engine is the icing on the cake. The Shelby GT350 is among the greatest sport coupes made in the last 25 years. If you have the means I highly suggest it.
I've been asked this before and it's very difficult for me to decide as I've had the Porsche for 7 years and driven across the United States and back in it. The GT350 gets my pick for the track and excitement, the Porsche gets my pick for a sporty daily driver. Entirely different driving dynamics, they make a great pair, would suck to lose either.
thanks for the info Nick
2016 GT-350 or GT-350R ? Because only the GT-350R has the Flat Plane Crank.
@Gearz70 that's incorrect. They share the exact same engine, transmission, widebody etc. The R has no backseats, different wheels (carbon fiber), larger wing and R compound tires.
Nick H you are absolute right, my bad ;)
Best mustang ever made
Get ready to become one of the best TH-cam reviewer. "The harder you work, the luckier you become."
This is the best 350 review period. And as a bonus we get turboski "white male" anger !! Love it
Edgardo Amado agreed,as long as I've been watching sg reviews,I mean this turbowski guy hates every single car he has ever shown..jmo..
I managed to get one (2018) at $3k over list. I got a second set of wheels/tires to save the carbon fiber wheels for the track. It's been a blast to own. I can let the interior pass because the car is so good.
That is awesome. Which wheels and tires did you decide on for daily driving?
Carroll Shelby said his vision was to build cars so hardworking citizens could afford and compete with high end sports cars . The 2013 gt 500 is the best mustang so far 662 hp , carbon fiber drive shaft , and 5.8 l v8 with decent fuel economy .and all for around 50 k nowadays.
Omar Cavazos Someone should spray paint this on the walls of all of the Ford dealerships.
90% of hardworking citizens cannot afford this car. This is the high end car Shelby wanted to compete against.
Dialysisforever absolutely
Youre not serious are you..? That thing is a boat anchor. Its over powered with a huge heat machine on top of it and it steers like a 6 wheeled wagon. Even in a straight line its about useless, unless you put slicks on it. Even then it doesnt make a good drag car. And if you want to know they really arent that fast. I played with one out on the local freeway and couple years back My bike by no means is a rocket. The new 1 liter super bikes have to lift and wait for me to catch up. Mine is 132hp @ the wheel, and the GT 500 was in my way as we jumped on it and I was planing on following him through traffic. I lifted, paused, and then drilled 3rd gear from about a 90mph roll and that was the last I saw of him. So those for the most part are a car that did its job. Its all smoke and mirrors to get guys like you to think they great. When in fact they are not. And fyi Im a ford guy top to bottom
@Oggy I have a 2000 Suzuki Bandit with a big bore kit, (1216cc) fully ported head, Yosh pipe, 38mm carbs, like I said it makes 132hp @ the wheel. But it also makes 109ft lbs. It runs.. plenty fast enough to get me in trouble.
There's not a lot of cars left that prioritize the joy of driving over the amenities of the interior. That's the niche this car fills, and Ford gets that.
Rattles or cheap looking are an issue though. The interiour in my 99 s2000 is simple but purposeful and no rattles after 20yrs ownership. Some of these issues aren't related to budget/price but to paying attention during design. Geese is right, there is room for improvement. But I agree with the strategy of keeping certain things at cost like not installing too many expensive parts from factor like CF drive shaft.
@@TheChannel1978 that's because it costs much more to build the factory that makes the vehicle fit precise than it does to design the car to be precise fitting.
"Most people" can afford that car? Wow. I'm more financially challenged than I originally thought. Good review.
Haha that's what I was thinking. Most means, at the very least, more than half. I don't see cars of this price point sitting in half the driveways in America.
he sort of means that you could own it if you NEEDED to make it happen.
@@jonnyspace50 No that isn't what he means, considering it's a toy.
@@dchawk81 He means you could afford it if you wanted to. If you think you can't, it's because you either don't want to afford it, or you are a lazy shit that doesn't work very hard for the things you want in life.
He said middle to high middle class income. So hey get a 70k a year job no kids and you might be able to squeeze by with the payments and insurance and maintenance.
When Turbowski wears a "Piss on Ford" shirt during your GT350R review...
Scott is an idiot. He ruins the feel of the show
@Mike Gee doesn't change the fact that the guy is just there for the negative vibe.
24:50 Where other reviewers use a GoPro or other action camera we have a full blown mirrorless setup with external audio. Gotta respect the amount of work and investment this man puts into his craft. 👍🏼
What foundation does Turbowski use? His skin always looks so natural in the garage segments. Just asking for a friend.
hahaha
+scottieray Probably grape flavoured GM gear lube.
yes yes for a friend ...
Someone should tell him the 'just for men' color in his beard doesn't match... just sayin'
Filming my review on the GT350R Heritage today. As always you’re one of the best reviewers in the game and having watched this years ago and coming back this a.m was full circle for me.
I own a GT350 and this review literally made me appreciate my car even more with all of the insight. Great review.
I think your speedometer is fogged up. Wink wink.
This is hands down the best review I've seen on this amazing car. Just an absolutely fantastic job. When the big boys come knocking on your door, resist the temptation to change your format to something they suggest. You've nailed it.
In Canada, the GT350R is just under 90g's CAN MSRP, but it's the same up here with dealer mark ups and they typically go for 120 grand or so. I love it but I guess I'll be waiting several years before I can afford even a nicely used one.
I believe this is a 2016 R model? The base 2016 GT350 didnt even come with MagneRide but or the added coolers. The 2017+ GT350 has all the R parts (MagneRide, coolers etc) minus the carbon fiber wheels, rear spoiler, and Cup 2's. It's one of the reasons why 2017+ models are sought after vs base 2016's. Also make sure the car has the new motor/fix if you're searching for a used one.
Actually those alum hubs are that way because they do not want the same problem they had with the Cobra R at the track. The hub assembly would flex, then a bump during a corner while on the brakes(?) - BOOM!
Blown brake rotors yet everyone wanted to blame Brembo. Yeah steering feel is the generic answer but that lack of rigidity meant the new track focused Mustang needed to be much better. The flexing hub was a huge problem that Brembo identified and Ford had a big problem taking responsibility for - lesson learned .
Good walkaround on the car.
Ford made The Perfect Car.
Damn I just noticed this is taken in my town in Illinois 😂😂
The only thing more criminal than the discontinuation of the gt350 is that this channel doesn’t have 1 million subs yet
This is still the best GT350 review on TH-cam 4 years later
Knowing now that you come from a military family and you support the vets makes you my favorite car reviewer. Thanks for the support!
I will buy one before I die. What an awesome overview of the GT350R. Really appreciate your video, this car from people whom actually bought one including Jay Leno, I have not heard anything bad except for the plastic and the small imperfections with the gaps it's a bad ass car...
+Manny Tenorio Yeah this is attainable dream car for sure.
I would buy a 350, but not a 350R, because I don’t do track days. I can appreciate the R for what it is, but it’s overkill for street use. Plus I’m not rich. ;-)
For anyone considering an R, I've got 6000 miles on my 2016 R. I drive the shit out of it every day, track the snot out of it and it's every bit as good as he says it is. I track it regularly and now I can die happy. I'd like to say that the reason the presenter was getting so much tram lining is the alignment settings are notoriously off from the factory. I got mine aligned and it tracks straight as an arrow at the expense of slightly diminished turn in. Too much tow out from the factory and no camber.. so CC plates/alignment are an essential first modification. I'm on my original cup 2 tires from ford w 6000 miles, 3 track days and they're still good in the rear, they even a few light burnouts in them.(I know.. not driving fast enough) Fronts needed replaced at 1000 miles because of the FUBAR factory alignment settings. The tires are sticky and kick up rocks so paint pro film is essential. The seats are tight at first but the bolsters relax and become very comfortable (now I know why Recaros cost so much). Even with the ADMs that the dealerships are asking I think the car is worth it, I paid 92, cash, out the door for mine and I don't regret it one fuckin' bit. "This car is fucking insane."
+GunfightersINC Thats really good to hear you love it. Special car for sure. I really wished manufacturer had adjustable camber from factory it is so annoying to have to go and modify a car just to get a good alignment. Keep me updated on your ownership.
I agree completely, it's absurd that a car this track focused doesn't have alignment adjustments from the factory ..*coughMIATAcough*. But, once you get it sorted this car is an animal. Thank you for such great content as this is, hands down, the best GT350R review online. Drive safe.
I don’t understand why the mechanic is in these videos. He barely speaks besides cringeworthy jokes like the “race gear.”
Savage geese does all the research and knows everything. There’s no need for the mechanic to lend credibility, especially when he adds next to nothing.
i can only imagine what the 2018-19 GT-500 is going to be like. if ford put as much effort into the GT-500 as they did the GT-350(R),,holy cow those bowtie boys gonna be crying when there ZL1/1LE gets its doors blown off,,and all of the 25 million metric tons of bondo that holds them pieces of chit together gets blown out the sides of them,,ill be a happy man. and im shure CARROL SHELBY and HENRY FORD senior will be smiling looking over there mustangs from up above. and the G.M. boys better get ready to start seeing the looks of these mustangs from the rear,,it's the only part of the car theyre gonna see anyways. and the mustang guys will have a view of the front grill of any of these new cumaros from therear view mirror. a repeat of the 1980's. i only seen trash am's,,firechickenchit's,,and crapmaros in my rear view mirror,,had to squint too,,they were so far behind me,,,:) :)
EXTIQUE are you seriously that um idk fanboyism is killing me here so the gt500 has to beat the zl1 1le and that's a ring time of 7:16 second hp and torque won't accomplish this alone if Ford does it congrats give to a reason to slam the new lt5 into a z28 or put a na high revin high hp engine in it lose more weight not nonsense no comfort and demolish the gt500 good of that give Ford a reason to demolish the z/28 good competition is great for this community
OMG, YOU ARE KILLING THEM WITH THESE SUPERD WELL PUT TOGETHER REVIEWS MY FRIEND AND YOUR TEAM, YOU GUYS REALLY DESERVED MORE VIEWS ON THIS CRAZY GOOD INFORMATIVE REVIEWS, IT FEELS LIKE IM WATCHING A MOVIE ABOUT THE Ford GT350, awesome awesome awesome stuff guys
+GSHeverything _27 Thank you!! This car was amazing.
savagegeese you guys very welcomed
They really did too. Have watched all the GT350R reviews that I can find and this one is far and away the best in my opinion
This is an amazing review. Thanks for all your workon this. Well done !
One of the best videos/reviews I have ever seen on this vehicle, awesome!
I think one of the biggest problems is most people are going to short shift it around 6 k , take a while to get used to a 8 grand rev limit and keep it over 6500 .
I just picked up a 17 GT350 on Sunday - just an absolutely amazing car! I can completely empathize when you expressed what I'd only use to describe this car so viscerally: "fucking insane." Yup, that about sums it up. And I've maybe had her to maybe 4,500 RPM. Great video, amongst one of the best I've seen in a while - even if I'm bias towards the car.
+James Kerr I still content this is one of the best cars to come out in a long time, enjoy it and post back updates.
I like how you say it's an affordable sports car. But over here in Australia 2 yrs later they are trying to sell the 2016 etc for $220k. The price of a small apartment. They do sit on the car sales sites forever mind you. There are some dreamers out there. If I bought one of these I would buy another set of wheels for road use. Of Course, if I owned one of these I would have a garage full of cars I could use as daily drivers.
I don't know why you get shafted so badly in Oz for cars. I live in NZ and markup for US cars is ridiculous also but somehow in Australia it is always worse. You'd think a large country would depend on affordable import cars but I guess not
“The twerk team” omg 😂
GT350R in the heartland! What a beautiful intro...
"If you are not a muscle car person, this [car] may actually convert you" spot on where I sit with this car. I consider it much more than just a "muscle car"
I love that mechanic character.
As a Mustang owner for the last 25 years (several along the way), I’ve probably bought my last one. After being offered a GT350 for $25,000 over sticker, I decided that the Mustang has moved up market and now I shall hold it to a higher standard.
I have had as much fun if not more with the Jaguar F Type R. As a side effect of moving up market myself, I have discovered the benefit of much better fit and finish. With the F Type, the exhaust is just as obnoxious, or not, with the flick of a switch. Plus it looks amazing.
I get that Ford was trying to build an awesome track car, but for the price the Cayman GT4 is within reach.
Your videos and editing skills are simply brilliant. You should have way more subscribers.
Thanks eventually growth will take hold.
This has GOT to me my 40th or 50th time listening to this review on the background and everytime I laugh: 5:10
English2Elvish 😂
I would probably keep the wheels and tires for track days (or sell them), and buy some cheap, forged 18" wheels and tires.
Congratutations to Savagegeese, its a great review!
GT350 can still improve, buy why don't ford do it? Well, let me tell you. why. Because it's Ford. For the last few years, Ford's business strategy had change so much. Just look at the Ford GT and the full line of Ecoboost engine. While Ford began to focus on the world market, Chevrolet and Dodge still live in the past. Back in 2012, Boss 302 was deemed the the best American sport car. Then the competition began... Z28, Hellcat, Ford was beat to the bottom and Boss 302 became a joke. But the truth is that the S197 Mustang still has so much potential that Boss 302 is simply a semi-finished product. You would believe how fast the Boss 302 become with better suspension setups and tires. Now, after the Ford released the GT350, we got to know that Boss 302 was just a project that Ford tested before's GT350's R&D. The final product is simply amazing. With above average brake and Cup 2 tires, GT350R beat the Z28, which has the overkill carbon ceramic brake and the best R-comp tires Trofeo R. I heard that Z28's tires and brakes are so powerfull that tires will spin around the wheel at full brake. At this gen, GT350 is just too good to compare with, and of course Ford won't waste money on upgrading the car until the next Z28 come out. And that my friends, it's why. At the end of the day, it's hard to justify Ford's strategy. It broke lots of Mustang fans' heart. The GT350 is ridiculously over price by the market. With 100-130 grands, most people rather buy 2 z28 or a corvette. It's true lol, I know a friend who bought a used C7 Z06 because the Ford dealer won't agree to sell their GT350 for 90 grands......
I have owned 997 Turbo and 911S. I drove this car on a track. More Fun and more comfortable.
I just lived vicariously through you, and got to experience a car that I can never own. Thank you!
I'm glad you touched on all the quality issues and didn't just focus on the amazing performance/engine/sweet Tremec/that exhaust note and the killer looks as so many reviewers do. It's no secret the formula Ford used to bring a world class performer to market at this price, they cut corners/cost everywhere that does not affect performance. While the interior materials are very poor I do think the ergonomics are excellent as is the Sync 3 although I'm surprised you didn't mention the blasphemy of having "Sync" stamped into the bezel of the shiftier instead of "Tremec".
Alacantara? Really?
Very good report, but you need to do some additional home work on the Cup2 tires.
Most guys are getting a minimum of 10k miles out of these with a correct alignment.
I use both the Cup 2’s and Hoosier R8’s on the track and the R8 tires out perform the Cup 2’s very time!! Softer and more sticky compound.
Bruv love the comment about the twerking asses girls lol ohh fawk 7 years later im still laughing watching this for the 10th time... I am picking up one of these soon.. Would love for you to come drive some of my rides some time. your the best YT out there.. CALi Gearhead JOE here.
dealer markup is a joke
agreed
@@savagegeese i drive 2012 mazda 2 w 100hp, 94ftlbs at4000k. Ive never been tossed from a bar, yet i have been from a dealership!!! Then the safety from Quebec came, i translated the safety and it was a the same, with strict rules re: steering Steve O is Old man. told me he balanced my tires (on a hoist?) he said nothing as the car thunked back. Two days later master mechanic drove it 20 ft and new exactly what the issue was. $42 part...mazda canada never again
I feel like I owe you money for watching this
I miss scott
I have been searching and looking around for some GT350s and the rear differential cooler came up soon after, advices to be careful about it (I got a GT that I track and I have issues with it at times). I’m not a car mechanics literate but it was hard just to find how a rear diff cooler looks.
This was it, this was the video that no algorithm picked up, no searches picked up, no suggestions, nothing… not even by being subscribed already… but glad to have bumped into it because this is the ultimate GT350R review, even so many years later.
No ac in the R correct?
MY god,
This is my first video I've seen from this guy, and I would like to say HOW REFRESHING!
I am so sick of every single fanboy review on TH-cam. Finally someone who takes this shit seriously and know what they are talking about. Takes the car from every angle talks about everything good with it and everything bad about it
Great video! I'm watching and just smiling because I still can't believe I own one.
very good review, hard to hear the criticism when you own one, but I agree on all points! Excellent job dude!!
I had a set of Michelin Cup 2 tires on my Boxster - rear ones went to shreds after ~2,400 miles....
This is a ~320bhp car.
Did just one track day + 6 Auto-X events. Rest were street miles.
+Croc yeah thats just crazy.
~0.5$ a mile just for tires indeed was too much for me :-(
10k on 350hp Boxster Pzeros. Expecting 20k miles
Every car either "lacks connection with the driver and excitement" or is "so overkill" ... It's like no car is good enough and I don't get it. The 350R is badass and that's coming from a Camaro guy
people who brag about this GT350, which is basically a Track Car, then complain about the interior... are just nearly bipolar in thinking..
+Smith Nah, Ford has problems with interior quality compared to other brands and its not just the Tang.
@@savagegeese that may be true Savage but you've got some really high standards due to your exposure to all the wonderful cars you review, lol. For the average Joe not so much is noticable. You've got great taste and looks like you can put up some great lap times on the track but still not so obtainable for the average joe. Hell most people cant even drive a manual now days.
@@timothycc711 Average American, my sisters little Audi A1 has a nicer interior, we Europeans have better standards...
This and other videos is why I chose to buy a 2020 GT350 and had Shelby American make it into a Signature Edition ...
That first minute of this video was beautiful like oml
yes, THE MUSIC, OH MY FUCKING GOD!!! 10/10
Great video. Part of the reason I bought my 350!
Those rev match downshifts are crispy as hell and the review was spot on! Subscribed
I saw this video by pure luck and i cannot believe how good this car reviewer is, he's much more factual and analytical to present cars, this guy should be in the teams of Motor Trend seriously and will get even bigger chance of giving more details of circuit reviews
Great job as always bro. My dream car
I love the blurred out speedometer. Good call. I wish I could have a turn. Lucky Dog. Thanks for the info.
Great review.. FYI, I have two GT86's and have just ordered a Mustang here in the UK.. I watch all your stuff and really enjoyed your FRS days!!
Hope you keep doing reviews in the future, They are seriously in depth unlike a lot of car reviewers on TH-cam.
Hopefully we can keep it up.
And he’s right about the GT350.... I drive mine hard.... bounce off the rev limiter... melt the tires till they blow out.... and the car laughs at the abuse!