Olympus E-M5 vs E-M5 Mark III - High ISO Performance
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Since I am still pretty much stuck at home due to the lockdown, I can't go out to shoot, so I do apologize in advance for the less than appealing image samples. I thought it would be fun to compare the high ISO performance between two cameras - the original Olympus OM-D E-M5 versus the E-M5 Mark III, and see how much improvement there is specifically when it comes to high ISO shooting. Does the newer 20MP image sensor make much of a difference?
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Honestly, between thousands of tests and comparisons this is a video making fun and being very interesting for me as a still M5 user. Thanks Robin👍
Thanks, appreciate that!
Loved this. The E-M5 was my first interchangeable lens camera and I will never sell or trade it. It’s intrinsically tied to my love for photography and Olympus. I own the M1 III and the M5 III now and it’s really amazing how far m43 sensors have come in 7 years
Dynamic Range comparison would be very helpful indeed! :)
Yes, loss of dynamic range is a big problem, while I can tolerate noise or "grain" in b&w. But they are intertwined as when noise becomes too high then you cannot decide on black or white or any object color. And loss of dynamic range means noise rises to a point where you cannot see any of the colors or b&w tones.
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Great video! I purchased the Em5 MkIII back in February to upgrade my Em10 MkI and the difference in picture quality is night and day (at least to my eyes). Noise wasn't much of an issue with my old Em10 so it's nice to see that there's that much of an improvement in noise control in higher ISOs. I love my Em5III so much, that I'm now contemplating going "all in" with micro four thirds and selling my full frame gear.👍
What’s interesting is the color difference. I prefer the older EM5 for color
The older 12mp sensor even has nicer colours. The more modern a sensor gets the better it´s high iso and DR performance but the images look somewhat anemic and lifeless.
I agree, the original has a signature tone to it, even comparing it to the em5 mk2, em10 mk3. The original's jpeg images just looks rustic & less plasticky imo if you're lazy shooting raw. It's what's holding me back
Great video. I have an original EM5 and have not seen other comparisons of it to a Mark lll. This is very helpful for my assessment of whether it is time to jump to a Mark lll. Any additional comparisons between the 2 cameras would be great appreciated.
Yes, please make that comparison video, as well.
Nice video Robin! Right to the point, as usual. From my experience, EM5 mk III is unbelievable camera, really, all the goodies of EM1 inside such ultra compact and super sophisticated body. Yes, I do love my EM1 but I consider EM5 mk III best all around camera. Put 12-45/4 Pro on it or any Olympus prim and it is ultimate combo. I never looked back on my FF after switching to Olympus. High iso? Take 5 axe stabilization in account and my tripod is sitting at home not hanging from my backpack :)
Could not agree more with you. Love the EM5III, my tripod is gathering dust :-)
Yes the 5 ax stablization is an amazing feature.
Great comparison! My tolerance for high iso is high. I would have been happy with the EM5 at 25600.
My threshold is exceeded when I have to to a cut/crop of a picture which pushes things past the point of pain.....
Good advise to keep the originals and to buy lenses instead. In my eyes, even the original at highest iso creates something which I would describe as "pleasing" noise.
Just Mentioned you in a comment Rob.. Thank you for your illuminating videos
Haha funny, I put the max ISO cap on my EM5 II to 800 because for me noise cicks already in too much at 1600 ISO :D Strange ism that my EM10 III is performing one stop better than my EM5 II despite the same seonsor... btw. @Robin Wong what about a comparison between the EM5 II and em5 III? is there a Difference between EM5 I and EM5 II in noise levels?
Same for myself. I thought the 25600 image was useable depending on the scenario. I’d flip it to black and white and put it in the keeper pile.
Yes do a comparison for dynamic range. Thank you!
Hi Robin Wong , plz include some comparison between these two cameras on video ISO perf also ..
So far I'm still happy with my EM5 original camera with Mzuiko ED 75-300mm ii as my bird photography gadget. By the way, thanks for sharing and I really enjoy watching the entire video. Have a nice day and stay safe.
Yes, please do a further comparison between the e-m5 and the e-me iii.
Hi could you compare iso e-m5 iii vs em 1 iii 😀🙏🏻
Good comparison Robin! Will upgrade my 2012 EM5 to EM5 iii on 2022! 😁
Thanks for doing this comparison Robin. It’s very interesting to see how far the new EM5 has come with regards to high ISO performance. I recently purchased the EM5 Mk III after having used a PEN EP5 since 2013 (similar era and tech to the original EM5) and while I have always been happy with the results I got with the EP5, I’ve been blown away by how good the new one is in every respect. It has reinvigorated my love of photography. In combination with the fast primes (I’ve got the 17, 25 and 45mm f1.8s), it makes for excellent low-light performance in a compact, lightweight and highly functional package!
Back than Kai W. preferred the OM without D after the DigitalRevTV review ;)
I would like to see the histograms and exposure info. The mark III is a brighter shot by aprox one stop which would show less noise. Olympus may be doing something within the cameras to show more of an improvement in noise reduction than truly exists. At equal exposures, It appears that there is one stop of noise improvement with the markIII. Not a problem as it has a higher pixel density and slightly newer sensor.
Dude, that was about slightly less than half a stop more, not one stop. First set of comparison images at ISO1600. F1.8, E-M5 was at 1/5s, E-M5 Mark III was at 1/4s.
If it was ONE stop as you claimed, it would have been 1/2.5 sec on E-M5 Mark III.
@@robinwong I am not stating that anything you did caused the difference. Viewing the images on screen, the Mark III image looks much closer to +1 EV difference with the original E-M5. The cameras are doing in body processing even before output as RAW files. I am not questioning your testing procedure. I am hypothesizing on what processes are being done differently between the cameras. Perhaps the newer sensor is more efficient in gathering light.
Based on your exposure info, these files should look almost identical in brightness. Surely, you can see that there is an OBVIOUS differences in the brightness between these photos. Something is going on before output as a RAW file.
Comparing the Mark III with the original shows that today's Olympus is as good or better than a APC camera from 2012. I went to Dpreview and was able to confirm the results I see in Robin's video. Plus now we have Topaz Denoise and Topaz Sharpen which keep getting better. It was hard to detect the superiority of some of todays APC cameras.
Hi Robin, I did a similar indoor test comparing the EM5 with EM1 MII a few years back when I bought the EM1 MII. In my test, I was using 2 lenses separately. The first lens was the kit zoom 12-50mm f3.5 - 6.3, the second lens was the Samyang 50mm f1.2 manual focus lens. I used a tripod for all the tests. I switched off the IBIS and set a 2 second delay in the shutter to avoid shutter related issues. I used centre-point and shutter speed to meter (for the kit zoom lens, I was using 12mm f3.5 for all ISO tests starting from 200 to 25,600. For the Samyang 50mm lens, I fired all shots at f1.2 from ISO 200 to 25,600.) My photo subject was a Japanese doll which was about 1.5 meter from the camera. About 2 meter behind the doll I placed a number of household items. I used 2 LED video lights (turned to 50% power) set at both sides to light up the whole frame.
What I found from the Samyang Fast prime lens was very similar to yours, the EM1 MII has about 2 stops in better noise performance. In addition, for the photos taken form the EM5, a much noticeable warmer tone, kind of yellowish cast was seen.
For the kit zoom, the difference was there, but not as much as I got from using the fast prime. I would say 1 stop and a half maybe, but the yellow cast was again there in the photos taken from EM5.
Yes please do another comparison video. TH-cam in general needs more content covering the em5 iii. This camera needs more hype because it’s really really good!
Would love the dynamic range video as well. I'm still using the first EM5 and looking to the EM1 III for my long awaited upgrade.
Hi Robin, great ISO comparison. I would be interested in a dynamic range comparison as well :).
However, if you end up comparing the dynamic range could you add a couple high ISO comparisons with raw files instead of jpeg + low noise filter? Also, if you end up comparing raw file ISO's, could you adjust their respective exposure histograms to a similar level, I noticed the E-M5 exposed a little darker than the E-M5 Mark III.
Cheers!
Robin, that would be fantastic to compare the dynamic range. Also perhaps comparisons with the Mark II if you can as well.
Thanks for the live chat with Peter today, it was great!
Am I correct in assuming that the E-M5 renders images very similar to the E-M10 mark II ? The E-M5 mark III guts render well and would make a great PEN F mark II upgrade, if Olympus decides to keep a rangefinder style in the line-up. I like the color and metering on that E-M5 and wonder if adding +1/3 to E-M5 mark III helps. Maybe it is just me, but the E-M5 has a more film camera look to it -- maybe a little grain or the richness of the colors. In the Olympus line the 45mm f1.8 sure renders a fine image overall. I like that one. Will also be considering the Panasonic 30mm macro, which has had some great reviews and test scores. The f2.8 to 5.6 range is great for the street --- hopefully I can return to full streets again :( I miss the street photograhy, as well as, landscapes and architecture shooting. Take care everyone! -Loren lorenschwiderski.smugmug.com/
Loren Schwiderski I was looking through the comments to see if anyone else thought that EM5 colors looked better. Since the image processor is different I don’t think we will be able to replicate the EM5 colors with adjustments in camera.
Thank You Robin. As always excellent honest representation of Olympus. I'm in the process of moving from Canon FF to Olympus and absolutely love the Oly system.
I'm looking for a 'downgrade' from FF to m4/3 because of the size of the lenses, but was always hesitant because of high ISO performance (6400+). Thank you for the comparison, perhaps I can use this for shooting ice hockey after all.
Thanks so much Robin for this test. A "real life test" and not a battle of figures and ultra crop.
I was surprised by the results, i see a difference but only at higher iso and when zooming. The real size pictures have differences but not such as i thought.
I have an om d e m1 and i would be very happy if you could do the same comparison. I will surely not change it now because it s way too expensive and i am still very happy with the old original one. But would be curious to see the comparison.
Thanks again and continue the nice videos (and pictures !)
Good advice on buying lenses instead of up grading camera body. Faster primes help lower ISO.
Thanks for this test, and yes, I’d like you to do a test of dynamic range as well. :-) I tend to keep older cameras if I still find them useful. That was the case for my E-M5 (mk1) when I bought the new E-M5 mk3. I keep it because I think it still performs well on ISO 200, so instead of changing lenses I bring the extra camera for some tele shots or macro. It’s also better to have to bodies with fixed lenses for optimum quality and brighter lenses.
Keep up the good work mr. Wong!
Great Video Robin. How would you rate the sensor performance of the EM10 mk4 vs the Em1 Mk2. Is the sensor the same? Is the higher ISOs noise perfomance the same?
I'm sorry Robin, but this is not a good test. The subject doesn't display any fine detail. You should have used a fluffy teddy bear for example instead.
Thanks for this video/comparison. It's always a pleasure to watch your videos...
Good comparison sr Robin Wong. real the mark III is best in low light for the ISOS, bat the clasic one is very good camera. I have the one and lovered the result. very sharpness. Thank you for the comparison
Hi Robin
I have an OM-d 5 Mk 3 which I pair with the Olympus 10-200 a great go any where take any thing combination, at a very light weight. I found if I use at f7.2-f8 it covers most of what I want to do. Looking back to images taken with the OM-d 10 Mk 1 and comparing, the OM-d 5 Mk 3 is a great improvement. I tend to use Neat Image as a noise reduction software and it really allows me to use high ISO up to 6800 and still get very good results.
Keep up the good posts as its nice to have a review that does not start with "For good results you need Full Frame"
Thank you Robin. I wonder where the EM5 Mark II sits in this regard. In the middle, you think?
I'd think E-M5 Mark II leans closer to the original E-M5, having the older 16MP image sensor.
Thanks, Robin, for another great video. I would be interested in the dynamic range comparison between the original em5 and the mark iii. Watching your videos and learning from you make this challenging situation that we're all going through more enjoyable. Thanks for your contribution!
I have both cameras too . . . unfortunately, cannot use the Olympus EM5I's optical right angle viewer on the MarkIII . . . nice accessory.
I loved this video, you always have the best topics. I figured the EM5III (which I currently own and love it) would win but it is amazing to see how much better technology has gotten over the years with noise reduction. And yes, please make the dynamic range comparison video.
I prefer a picture with noise than no picture at all.
Yes please do dynamic Range comparison between MK1 & MK3, as it stands now for me the difference in ISO performance does not justify 80% price increase .. I just picked up a nice MK1 for £144 I believe the MK3 is over £1000 that is a huge price difference therefore the MK1 offers better value for money
I had the gf3 while still using a nikon body. The iso 6400 on gf3 was how to say, horrendous, but I really love the 14mm and olympus 45mm. So I upgraded to the ep5, couldn’t be happier, with 5 axis I shot mostly in iso800.
Now with gf7 and g85, I think m43 have improved to a point that it matched my old nikon bodies in a much smaller package, not surprising since technology goes forward, of course a modern nikon would be even better for iso, and I’m still a big fan of 5 axis.
I have the original e-m5. I was thinking if I should buy the e-m5 mark III. This is the perfect video that I have been waiting for!!
Very interesting results Robin, I didn't expect that much difference so soon, say before 3200. Would have liked to see the 5000 checked (max native ISO of the em5:-) Yes please do the dynamic range video too! Thank you!
The difference between the mk1 and mk3 EM5s reminds me of the gap between my old EM10mk3 and my current EM5mk3 (although the differences here seem slightly more pronounced). It's nice to see how far Olympus cameras have actually come, despite how similar their basic specs seem to be between generations.
I was impressed by the E-M5 and I have no problem using ISO 12800 with it. I am pleased to learn the mk3 has improved the High ISO performance. Even at ISO 25600 looks usable to me. My E-M5 ISO 12800 prints look really good with hardly any visible grain. People look for moments, not "clean" images. They are more likely to notice a blurred image than a "noisy" image.
Thanks for the video, Robin.
That is so true. And posts to social media won't even show the grain from ISO 25600! And modern editing tools, like Topaz Denoise AI do a phenomenal job.
i just got my em5 mki last year for RM570 with lumix 14mm f2.5 and what i can say it that it's been performing better than most other apsc cameras i own and im loving everything about it. I've been shooting a few weddings with it, photos are better than canon midrange apsc
Camera + the lens for RM570?
High iso mostly for wedding photography, depend what we need, if for portrait product m5classic more than enough jas upgrade best lens👍🏿
Thanks Robin. Another great video. Just about to part ex my EM5 for an EM10 Mk 2 as a low cost upgrade. Think I am doing the right thing.
Wow thanks for that Robin ! I have the omd 10 v1 and those images on the 5 mark iii make me want to upgrade just for high iso performance.
Interesting that even the 16mp sensors have improved as in poor light I tend to pick up my E-PL10 against the EM10 II in difficult light. It is hard to quantify and the E-PL10 has dropped off the radar on the comparometers. The reviewers all thought this was the same camera as the 9 but what do they know? Electronic shutter in all modes and not locked to the tobacco stained look of warm WB was a big change and made me switch. tt was the one camera where an upgrade was really worthwhile yet nobody outside of the dedicated Olympus owners even noticed. Hey-ho.
Hi Robin! Thanks for this video!! High Dynamic Range comparison is a nice idea between em5 and em5 iii 😀
Results very much as I expected.
Original EM5 doesn’t do a bad job for an 8 year old design.
Thanks for the comparison.
Excellent comparison. With my em5ii and em1 ii I never go higher than iso 3200.. that should cover about 99,99 % of my needs.
Great challenge and the E M 5 still puts a smile on my face even today! It just proves that the old boy camera is still brilliant and that the older you get the worse your ISO eyes get!
The E-M5 still does very well today!
Even though I just made a move and bought panasonic g85 I probably will never sell my original e-m10 camera. It's still so good. Compared to g85 there's just so little difference in image quality.
Thank you for sharing these results. I would like to see a dynamic range comparison. I have the em-1 mark 1, and am thinking about getting one of the new Olympus cameras. Either the e-m5 mkiii or em-1 mkii. Thanks again for the video. Stay safe and healthy.
Hi Robin, paused at 2:50..., my prediction (I have the em5- now dead after around 90k shutter count-, em5-ii & Em1-ii). Never compared them side by side. I think to 5000 not much difference,... Now I'll continue with the video :-)
Я черпаю настроение, когда смотрю ролики этого жизнерадостного человека! Спасибо ему!
I just compared my E-M1 M1 against my Panasonic G9. I can not see any difference in Iso Performance from Iso 200 up to Iso 25600. I tested both JPEG and RAW with the exact same Lens, same Aperture and same exposure. To my mind revolution in sensor technology is lacking since many many years.
Would you be open to sharing those images? I just got an em5 really cheap and am thinking about getting a G9 for a wedding in summer.
Would be interesting to see a direct comparison.
listen to you talking makes me happy no matter what you say
Great video mate! I'd love to see the video of dynamic range as I've got the EM5 classic and am thinking about getting the Mark III at some point. Cheers
I would have liked to have seen the Mark III at 25,600 on the right, and the Mark I at whatever ISO is closest in image quality (e.g. 3,200 or 6,400). That would have really cemented the difference for us.
I prefer the EM5 images at the lower iso settings.. They seem crisper with better contrast. This is probably due to the 16 megapixel sensor. If you have to get that low light image I guess you need the Mark iii.
I'm always amused by comments as how this or that camera performs at ISO 12,800 since I remember well the old days when I would load ASA 200 film into my Olympus OM-2S... and that was it!
Wow...you bring out my camera...Pai Ser. Ya loh. Need to upgrade to EM1 III after MCO...Wait ah...until i come back from Taiwan.
Now what about vs the EM1-ii
Thanks Robin. Great review. I think I will retain my EM5
Hi Robin, What camera and lens combo did you use to make this video? The video quality and bokeh are stunning. Also, did you use any post-processing for noise reduction? Great video, as always. Many thanks.
I recently bought my brand new OM-D EM-5 Mark III with the kit lens Zuiko 14-150 f4 to 5.6 II (Silver Body) and it's my first camera. I am a total beginner and keenly follow all your videos. I am enjoying my photography and thank you each and each information you share in your videos.... It is a boon to a beginner like me. I would also like to aknow bout the kit lens 14-150 review if you can. Thanks.
A little late but have a look here: th-cam.com/video/lbDogANcNoc/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=RobTrek Rob doesn't sound as enthusiastic as Robin, but if you bear with him he's actually very good at analysis and explanation
Very good to see. Maybe that f/6.7 on the 75-300mm isn't that bad when you got that good of performance at 6400.
Perfect timing, I have some savings and was considering an upgrade from my em5 to an em1 mkii or em5 mkiii
Love your short and helpful videos, Robin! This video interested me especially, as I went from the original E-M5 to the Mk III. About the only thing I miss from the original is its metal body. 8-( (I'm also kind of annoyed that all my original E-M5 accessories, like the battery grip, macro light, etc., no longer work on the Mk III). And yes--I would love to see a dynamic range video comparing the two cameras!
Great video. It would be very interesting if you do the same comparsion with E-M1 mark II vs E-M1 mark III.
Thanks Robin that was cool. I use an original em5 and would like to see any other comparisons that yo make. Regards Del
Hi, Robin thanks for your very good recent comparison of the EM-5 models. Will you do the comparison of the EM-1 with the EM-1 Mark III models too? I'd like to see that comparison from you.
WOW! Looks like the original E-M5 has about 1 stop less noise than my Nikon D800.
I am upgrading from an omd em1 to omd em1 m3, I expect the differences in improved ISO are similar to those you found for this video.
I still love my E-M5 and still giving me fantastic photographs, however, moving up into the E-M5 lll is an option.
Thanks Robin for your video. Just wonder how much better is EM5 markIII when compared to EM10 mark II or III when shooting in low light high ISO condition. Take care Robin. Stay healthy.
interesting. would like to see the same comparison mark ii v mark iii
Nice one, love this comparison video.
Thanks
But the camera design really improve a lot.
A comparison in terms of RD would be great, but I would appreciate even more a tutorial on how to measure the RD of a given camera or sensor. If this is taken as an excuse to do the comparison, much better!
Hi Victor, take a look at the web dxo mark, they have tested and allow comparison of many cameras, DR , ISO etc. Saludos desde Barcelona.
@@williampegram Saludos desde cerca de Barcelona!
Good one Robin,suprised how far you can take the ISO.Range between M-5mkiii and M-1mkii-iii would be interesting as well.
They are the same.
In the film camera days, ISO 1600 film was garbage. I'm just astounded by what digital camera sensors can output. I'm sorry you're locked in, Robin. I always enjoy your photography, especially the arthropod macro photography. I'm locked in too, but living in the taiga of northern Minnesota, I'm doing as much photography as I always do, because there is almost no one around me. I can go out and wander in the woods any time I want to.
Thanks again Robin. Great comparison. Does the EM-5 III have the same sensor as the EM-1 II, or did Olympus design a new sensor?
Would be interested to see the same comparison with LSF JPEG straight out of the cameras rather then from RAW then converted.
The result is exactly the same. As I used Olympus Workspace, rendering exact same out of camera JPEG files.
Thank you very informative. And impressive.
I wonder if the difference is also this big when the noise filter was off. Newer camera's have better noise reduction. Also why no manual mode with exact the same shutter/diafragma?
Proud owner of the wonderful EM5 II. But its high time m43 gets a BSI sensor..!
Hi. I was comparing indoor shots with flash, and i came to same conclusion that M5 MkIII makes brighter images compared to my M10.
This week i was doing some photos of flowers during sunny day and some images appeared to be overexposed, similarly to my experience with flash photography. I realized that when i did RAW Editing in the M5 MkIII, the best thing to do is to lower exposure by 1-1.3 EV, to get best contrast. So i reviewed some of my photos from last month, applied it to those taken on direct sunlight or flash, and it worked like a charm. So it either means that the newer sensor is more sensitive, or that the exposure is intentionally on value +1,3EV
I also checked DPreview page and their ISO tests... M5 MKIII does not show much more noise even when compared to more expensive and FF cameras.
Indeed, for even very challenging and demanding photography, the OM-D cameras are more than sufficient to deliver great results!
@@robinwong Would you say it's absolutely sufficient for Wedding photography?
Stay healthy!
@@SlayEngine By all means have a look at Joseph Ellis channel (if you haven't done so yet). He is another great M43 user, as Robin, with ample experience doing weddings.
@@SlayEngine About 6-7 months ago i did a photoshoot with my M10, 12-40 f2,8 PRO lens and Fl-600 flash in a club during a Halloween party. The results were really good, i put them on a FB and some people asked me if i am a professional photographer. I truthfully answered that its just a hobby, and i can help in my spare time, however no offer for work followed. There were few more occasions, and the situation repeated few times.
Therefore i would say even M10 is good for wedding photography, as i had great results on crowded parties, portraits and cosplay photography. Standard zoom 12-40 and flash is part of the solution.
My upgrade to M5 MkIII was motivated by better Hybrid AF, 20Mpix, better native ISO range, and fact that people sometimes mistook my M10 for a compact camera. M5 MkIII has mostly all technology which was previously in M1 Mark II, which is undoubtely PRO camera.
Okay thank you both. At the moment I'm trying to figure out if I can do the pro jobs completely with M43. I'm testing the E-M1 II (such an incredible crop camera!) currently at home.
Coming from Pentax FF, left them cause of the weight (2.5kg mininum for event setup )... Seen photographers like Ellis and Wong, who create gorgeous photos.. So I think they convinced me. I just want to make sure that I can do the job (espec. weddings) and preserve my style.
Thanks for your help.
Feel like I’m gonna use the original E-M5 till it dies. It’s still a great camera
Can you do a video of the aged Ep5 against the current olympus cameras? It seemed that it aged very very well to me, but i would like your opinion on it. Thanks
Thank you, Robin, for this assessment but I wonder, does it has the same ISO performance the OMD1-Mark II like OM5-mark III?
Olympus EM10 Mark 3 vs E-M5 Mark 3 !!!!! Very intersting !!!!!!!!!!!
Please compare the EM-1 MArk III to the others
Hello there, Dynamic range comparisons will be highly appreciated. May I suggest one thing though? I have been staging and slowly progressing with Olympus mirrorless cameras from the Pen lite (EPL) to a OMD, and now within the OMD I'm still with the 10 and will have to move to the 5 (as I need the weather sealing). With the progression within the OMD range being moving from 10 to 5 and from 5 to 1, would it be possible to do the comparisons between the different generation EM5s and between the EM5 iii and a EM10? The fact that Olympus made the EM5 batteries the same as my EM10s makes this transition more natural, and this would a nice comparison to see, and or to get your opinion. Stay safe.
Nice
great video, very helpful!
Hi Robin, Thanks for another god vid. Was wondering if you can make a vid commenting on the Sony 47MP and 8K Micro Four Thirds sensor announced last year and when you think Olympus/Panasonic will implement it in their camera's. I think this is really what the m4/3 format needs and if implemented soon, will hurt ff camera purchasing justification! Thanks in advance
I don't think there is anything to comment. Until a real, physical camera is made, and I have tested it, there is nothing useful I can say about the new sensor, if it is coming.
Robin, could you do a daytime lightning capture tutorial video? thank you
Where do I find a lightning?