Thank you Pat for putting this E-moto through its paces and saying it LIKE it IS 🙌🤘; like others I already knew about the Battery/Low Amp/hour/Range shortcomings (at $3K Rawr had to CUT *somewhere* lol 😉) but for your readership I was looking for you to be UPFRONT and you CERTAINLY were 👍😈🙌; solid review, 🔥LIKED🔥, and I’m looking forward to listening through your older and upcoming material 🙌👍😈🔥…
Excellent review! I placed an order for my Mantis X a few days ago. It should arrive any day now. Is there anyway you can show a video on how to change the gear oil and lube the chain? And what kind or brands to use. Thank you! Once again, thank you for your review on this bike.
xxx for street and mantis for offroad. the xxx sucks offroad. I had mine for 4k miles but its not made for offroading so I stuck to street and got something else for offroad
How does the range and battery life compare to the Talaria XXX? I am really torn between both of these bikes. Absolutely love the channel! Subbed immediately!
@@Psnacount I had a pedal kit on my surron, then I took it off because it felt like it barely moved the bike and not worth the added weight. I bought a pedal kit for my x3 and returned it for the same reason. Makes sense for those worried about cops, but not for everyone 🤷🏾♂️
I’ve got a few at home I’m test fitting right now. None are plug and play, but fit pretty nicely on the tail. Just reviewing the wire harness to make it work with the levers
Thank you for all the great info on this bike! Will be getting one soon. Do you know how many watts the charger pulls? Want to use my 800 watt inverter generator to charge the battery while camping. Thanks
Pat is there room for a larger battery down the road or is it limited space like the xxx. One of the rides I do 3 times a month is 30 plus miles with breaks often on my xxx I'm wanting to upgrade it to 72v with the new luna float seat or just get a pro ss but will see what the winter holds. Excellent vid looks like an amazing ride w great views
@@PatOutdoors yeah I want to upgrade my xxx or get the pro ss the price would be the same for either option except a modded xxx would hand the ss it's ass on the street anyway. Truth be told the ventus 1 v2 would be perfect all the way around bit far out of my price range
7:05 I guess you like the handlebars like that faceing at u instead of straight up, your hands are not straight you would get better handleling if your hands are straight but if you like it,, that's cool i just never seen it before
lol pretty soon. I just confirmed there was gear oil in the lower unit. I also swapped out the plastic prop for an aluminum one. Also got a HUGE 100AH battery for all day testing
Hey Pat So I need a bike that gets me back about 30 mi at night once or twice a week. I was thinking about getting the motor goat v3 but I read is to tall for me I'm 5'5. There's this other bike I saw I forgot the name but it basically has this huge brakes in the back and the front. But the guy that review it wasn't that happy with it. Now I'm looking at this dirt bike what are your thoughts about it because the older bikes were regular e-bikes not dirty bikes?
you would be much better off with a regular ebike like that motor goat or something else if you’re looking for a road commuter and need 30+ miles of range. These electric dirt bikes are more geared for torque and for having fun off road rather than range, and road-worthiness.
You think its a good bike for me if lm 6foot 3 tall? it Look like Big enuf bike And slitly biger than talaria 3x. And if not you recomend some other bikes around theat price for 3k.
@@r1ky527 There is no other bike that’s BIGGER than a Talaria XXX for $3,000 besides this one. You could go with an MX3 or MX4, but that’s quite a bit more with 60v battery. This sits about 2” taller than my XXX so it’s better suited for taller rider in comparison
Absolutely, but not again until RAWRR says otherwise. Don’t wanna take a gamble again until I know I have alternative controller upgrade options as a fall back
Depends on your state laws and regulations. But it does come with an off road paper title (like a traditional dirt bike) and a VIN stamped on the frame. It’s possible for me (in VA) to add a functional brake lamp, turn signals, and DOT street tires, have it inspected, and registered as a street-legal “moped.” But every state is different.
To me it seems like you glossed over that rear suspension or maybe I should have said the lack of rear suspension. This is the reason the Electric cycle rider was saying that this bike would be better for on road use both because of the light frame and the lack of rear suspension. Glad you like it but now there there is an MX5 there will be great deals on the MX4 which would be more in the same price range as this. you are fortunate that you can have a few different bike but most of us will ahvde to buy one bike to do everything we need and I just don't think this is it.
ECR hasn't tested this bike, they only had the older Mantis. Not only does this bike have rear suspension clearly but it's at a much better angle than all the other e-motos. It's a little soft though so you won't be doing crazy jumps on it but neither will you on the other bikes without mods.
@@PatOutdoors No, I was thinking less but I guess I was exaggerating. I still would not buy a Rawrr no matter what. I really don't think it is a good bike. It is more at home on the street!
I have never did over 20 miles yet in one riding session 30 + miles is crazy seat time 🪫 s/o to yall who can ride all day like that my average is probably 5-6 miles per ride unless I’m commuting it’s more like 10 miles.
Great video, went out for a ride with the mantis today and ripped down some new trails.
Love the mantis X video. Keep doing em !
I got the Mantis and I only ride in Eco 2 and push Sport when needed or go to 3. I can go 50 in ECO 2. A great way to conserve battery.
How much do you weigh?
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Thank you Pat for putting this E-moto through its paces and saying it LIKE it IS 🙌🤘; like others I already knew about the Battery/Low Amp/hour/Range shortcomings (at $3K Rawr had to CUT *somewhere* lol 😉) but for your readership I was looking for you to be UPFRONT and you CERTAINLY were 👍😈🙌; solid review, 🔥LIKED🔥, and I’m looking forward to listening through your older and upcoming material 🙌👍😈🔥…
where do I buy one for $3K
30 miles is super far exactly correct. Most people do like 15 20 Max badass video Pat love your content
We need a comparison between the talaria x3 and this bike. I’m torn between those two
Excellent review! I placed an order for my Mantis X a few days ago. It should arrive any day now. Is there anyway you can show a video on how to change the gear oil and lube the chain? And what kind or brands to use. Thank you! Once again, thank you for your review on this bike.
i love this idea, just ordered mine a few days ago too, curious about all the upkeep that needs to be done...
where did you buy it from?People are saying $3k but I can't find them for that.
Can you do a talaria x3 vs rawrr mantis x.
Fr cuz these 2 r my top choices
xxx for street and mantis for offroad. the xxx sucks offroad. I had mine for 4k miles but its not made for offroading so I stuck to street and got something else for offroad
@@d1of1c243 same
The rawr mantis is definitely better
is the rawr good for street?
congrats on 11.1K
@@catm0 😂 such a random number. Thank you! I meant to do a celebration and giveaway video at 10K, but missed it so I’m doing it at 12 now
@@PatOutdoors no problem man 😂
Just finished watching great vid!!!!
thanks for the review great vid
How does the range and battery life compare to the Talaria XXX? I am really torn between both of these bikes. Absolutely love the channel! Subbed immediately!
Remember light bee S is 48v and doesnt have the chassis rigidity like the light bee x that we all love which is 60v
@@MooseRidez Right.. which is a rip off compared to this bike!
@@PatOutdoors 100%!!
A pedal kit just isn’t possible for this frame the day it is this bike can complete with the talaria x3
@@Psnacount I had a pedal kit on my surron, then I took it off because it felt like it barely moved the bike and not worth the added weight. I bought a pedal kit for my x3 and returned it for the same reason. Makes sense for those worried about cops, but not for everyone 🤷🏾♂️
Awesome review..so does the motor get hot after a lot of climbing uphill and heavy up hill off-roading?
know of any brake lights that would be pretty much plug and play for this bike?
I’ve got a few at home I’m test fitting right now. None are plug and play, but fit pretty nicely on the tail. Just reviewing the wire harness to make it work with the levers
@@PatOutdoors hell yeah, are you planning on making a video/tutorial on it? I'll keep an eye out!
@@L_s_D_m_T once I successfully get it done!
@@PatOutdoorsI'll be looking out for that
Where to purchase this bike? Thanks for this review!
The app allows regen now
Oh man. I wish I still lived in WV and had one.
Thank you for all the great info on this bike! Will be getting one soon. Do you know how many watts the charger pulls? Want to use my 800 watt inverter generator to charge the battery while camping. Thanks
should i get one i live in the uk tho so like i have a high chance of it getting taken off me
Pat is there room for a larger battery down the road or is it limited space like the xxx. One of the rides I do 3 times a month is 30 plus miles with breaks often on my xxx I'm wanting to upgrade it to 72v with the new luna float seat or just get a pro ss but will see what the winter holds. Excellent vid looks like an amazing ride w great views
@@Nobodyatall00 so far, the largest battery available is 72V 35ah for the Mantis X. My Talaria XXX has a 74V 44AH battery that has over 60 mile range
@@PatOutdoors yeah I want to upgrade my xxx or get the pro ss the price would be the same for either option except a modded xxx would hand the ss it's ass on the street anyway. Truth be told the ventus 1 v2 would be perfect all the way around bit far out of my price range
@@PatOutdoorsyea but is it UL approved ? That is what Rawrr is pushing. Making sure it's safe.
Once you clear out a few trees you’re going to have a nice track!!
So Mantis X or Talaria XXX for 80% pavement?
If your pavement riding is more than 25 miles and you like to cruise above 40 MPH, then Talaria XXX. If range isn't an issue, Rawrr Mantis X
Test the 35 AH upgrade battery!
I would love to, but it’s out of my budget at this time..
7:05 I guess you like the handlebars like that faceing at u instead of straight up, your hands are not straight you would get better handleling if your hands are straight but if you like it,, that's cool i just never seen it before
It’s actually straight up. It just looks distorted with the 360 camera view.
Nice vid I just got the xxx and every time I ride my butt hurts lol. Do you think seat covers actually add any cushioning.
@@AidenZ7334 I’m about to upgrade my XXX seat actually. Check out Luna cycles’s float seat for $50
@@PatOutdoors yeah I was looking at that but then there wouldn’t be any seat covers right?
@@PatOutdoorsisn’t that for a surron?
@@vrelity2772 they make it for Surrons and 3 different Talarias
Geez I only got 20 miles. Going into limp mode is a pain. I’d rather have control over a low battery rather than the system doing for me.
Does the rider wight matter? I’m 270lbs
Is the charger included with the bike or has to be bought separate?
@@RalphMoon it’s included with the bike. I think all the e-motos in this class come with the charger
When is the Next outboard video Coming?
lol pretty soon. I just confirmed there was gear oil in the lower unit. I also swapped out the plastic prop for an aluminum one. Also got a HUGE 100AH battery for all day testing
@@PatOutdoors 👍 cant wait
Hey Pat
So I need a bike that gets me back about 30 mi at night once or twice a week.
I was thinking about getting the motor goat v3 but I read is to tall for me I'm 5'5.
There's this other bike I saw I forgot the name but it basically has this huge brakes in the back and the front.
But the guy that review it wasn't that happy with it.
Now I'm looking at this dirt bike what are your thoughts about it because the older bikes were regular e-bikes not dirty bikes?
you would be much better off with a regular ebike like that motor goat or something else if you’re looking for a road commuter and need 30+ miles of range. These electric dirt bikes are more geared for torque and for having fun off road rather than range, and road-worthiness.
so no cutting any wires to get top speed...no limiter on it
Can we add a spare battery to this bike?
@@TylerDurden-bl4py I mean you could just buy a spare battery and swap it out when the first one dies since it’s easy to take out
You think its a good bike for me if lm 6foot 3 tall?
it Look like Big enuf bike And slitly biger than talaria 3x. And if not you recomend some other bikes around theat price for 3k.
@@r1ky527 There is no other bike that’s BIGGER than a Talaria XXX for $3,000 besides this one. You could go with an MX3 or MX4, but that’s quite a bit more with 60v battery. This sits about 2” taller than my XXX so it’s better suited for taller rider in comparison
Id be great to see how it does at tomahawk mx
Hmm 🤔 LOL it ain’t a 2-stroke motocross bike, but I am curious to see how it would do..
E ride pro or rawwr mantis x
Are you gonna test the app when the app gets fixed?
Absolutely, but not again until RAWRR says otherwise. Don’t wanna take a gamble again until I know I have alternative controller upgrade options as a fall back
Does the app work on this yet?@PatOutdoors
how long did it take to come in?
I ordered mine not too long ago. I think it’s about 5-8 business days but it takes 24-48 hours to process the order.
Nice better than surron
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Is it possible to make the Mantis X street legal?
Depends on your state laws and regulations. But it does come with an off road paper title (like a traditional dirt bike) and a VIN stamped on the frame. It’s possible for me (in VA) to add a functional brake lamp, turn signals, and DOT street tires, have it inspected, and registered as a street-legal “moped.” But every state is different.
@@PatOutdoors Thanks!
wind noise for dayss
@@luchi767 I brought a mic with me but the adapter broke 😕
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No levelling just send it track will make itself
I'm actually gonna take my Yamaha TTR-230 and run loops over and over to wear it in faster since that has more weight to it
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First?!
To me it seems like you glossed over that rear suspension or maybe I should have said the lack of rear suspension. This is the reason the Electric cycle rider was saying that this bike would be better for on road use both because of the light frame and the lack of rear suspension. Glad you like it but now there there is an MX5 there will be great deals on the MX4 which would be more in the same price range as this. you are fortunate that you can have a few different bike but most of us will ahvde to buy one bike to do everything we need and I just don't think this is it.
You think the MX4 price is going to be dropped to $3,000?
ECR hasn't tested this bike, they only had the older Mantis. Not only does this bike have rear suspension clearly but it's at a much better angle than all the other e-motos. It's a little soft though so you won't be doing crazy jumps on it but neither will you on the other bikes without mods.
@@PatOutdoors No, I was thinking less but I guess I was exaggerating. I still would not buy a Rawrr no matter what. I really don't think it is a good bike. It is more at home on the street!
@LarryRichelli not true at all I'm 250lb and we rip our mantis x thru some pretty nasty stuff it soaks it right up no bottoming out.
@@PatOutdoors You could get a MX4 new for around $3600 before the mx5 came out, I would expect prices to be even lower now
I have never did over 20 miles yet in one riding session 30 + miles is crazy seat time 🪫 s/o to yall who can ride all day like that my average is probably 5-6 miles per ride unless I’m commuting it’s more like 10 miles.
Can u do a eco mode range test it’s supposed to go 60miles range