The 72V RAWRR Mantis X Can Take a Beating..

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  • @Kingtalik4x
    @Kingtalik4x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Great video, with these two basically leading the budget e-bike category I’m excited to see if any other brands will try to compete and release more budget bikes around 3k🔥

    • @sanitarsasha3730
      @sanitarsasha3730 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      up to 3k? are you serious a 50A battery with new 84v cells will cost only $1000))) but everyone gets what they pay for

    • @Kingtalik4x
      @Kingtalik4x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sanitarsasha3730 and how much do you think the controller + bike frame and suspension will cost all together?

  • @Annon89
    @Annon89 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I bought a rawrr a few weeks ago. I ride it more and have a lot more fun than my 2stroke. It’s quiet. It’s got more power than I need. I’ve yet to say I need more power. Not having a clutch is very nice most of the time. It would be nice to clutch over fallen trees and stuff like that which I wasn’t even realizing how much I did it before but that is the main thing. I just need to get used to being in the front up without a clutch now. Adjustable brake levers would be really nice but the stocks ones are fine. I also do go for the foot break out of instinct sometimes and than grab the rear lever. It’s mainly a learning curve but very engrained. Rawrr does have the mounting points and everything already there so I always have the option to go foot pedal of if I really wanted it. Probably won’t though. It’s nice to have the rear on the bars.

  • @FreakyT333
    @FreakyT333 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The mantis x is the only bike to hit the market at a price point I can justify to get my feet wet in e moto’s. Honestly it’s a why not purchase once the funds are expendable. Such a cool bike
    Killer video man!

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FreakyT333 Thank you!!

    • @EliPerlman
      @EliPerlman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The xxx is the same proce

    • @FreakyT333
      @FreakyT333 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EliPerlman close in price yes but not 72v and the mantis x has a more preferable suspension/geometry as well. I’d like to ride both though and really see what feels better. I’m not talking just a bike near that price, I’m talking one that gives most everything id want out the box and won’t bleed me out another $2k in upgrades right away.

    • @EliPerlman
      @EliPerlman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FreakyT333 which would you buy?

    • @FreakyT333
      @FreakyT333 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EliPerlman honestly man I’d prefer to ride both before I chose but probably the Mantis X as I already have a 5 Star that’s 60v. I want 72v in my emoto.

  • @LeroyJenkins
    @LeroyJenkins 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Everyone just asks the same questions. How fast does it go? How far will it go? Range and Speed. If you want range and speed get a motorcycle. If you want access to 100mph speeds and range 100 miles. It ain't gonna be cheap. It'll be super heavy too in order to sustain those speeds and not kill you. You have to make sure the parts on this machine are quality. So i would say if you want a pit bike-like emoto to zip around on dirt paths and can carry it up stairs. It has reverse. Its not $3k its more like $3500 after taxes & shipping. Get the rawrr mantis x. Its a mid-size dirt-bike.

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well said

  • @chuckwalters4759
    @chuckwalters4759 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm liking the tough test~ Thanks!

  • @djcoolcliff
    @djcoolcliff 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dang you in VA? That’s what’s up! I got a Mantis and love it!!!!!!!!

  • @ghastly545
    @ghastly545 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really liking these rawr mantis x reviews 👍

  • @JerseyStyle7
    @JerseyStyle7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very cool bike for the price although I just ordered a P51 because I wanted something for the street as well, without being hassled by cops

  • @Mike_The_Bike_591
    @Mike_The_Bike_591 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    My 2 cents: they skimped on the battery to keep the price around $3000 - 30ah @ 72V is a nonsensical combination. What people DON’T seem to REALIZE is that a 72V battery burns through A LOT of battery power VERY QUICKLY, which is precisely WHY 30ah is a **RIDICULOUS MATCH** for that 72V…and the reason Rawrr is able to keep the price down - at the EXPENSE of *The Uninformed Consumer*, who will be stuck with an E-moto with abysmal range.
    This isn’t a step forward in design, technology nor engineering: it’s a company that’s a year and a half to 2+ years **BEHIND** what Talaria has ALREADY BROUGHT to MARKET with their “XXX”, except that the Talaria **out-performs** it or equals it in almost every imaginable scenario. Rawr is trying to cash in on the E-moto craze and who can blame them for it?
    But bump that 72V battery to AT LEAST 40ah and bump the price up half a grand, because currently, that 30ah battery is a shady, shoddy way to drop price at the expense of dismally LOW RANGE.
    It’s unfortunate because I think Rawr have a decent frame and overall structural design; but 72V/30ah simply isn’t going to CUT IT for a brand new E-moto hitting the market in mid-2024 as both
    Talaria and Surron are stepping UP their game for 2025.
    I’m not hatin’, just sharing my opinion. Interesting E-moto, bad battery choice. ‘Nuff said!

    • @magmag9999
      @magmag9999 หลายเดือนก่อน

      On point. people don't realize that amp hour is how fast/slow a battery drains.

    • @Annon89
      @Annon89 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I have this bike and the higher voltage is really nice. And I’ve not had any problems with battery life. Lower voltage higher amp is the same size battery with higher voltage lower amp they are just configured different. Here is an example. 56v x 40a is 2240watt. 72vx 30a 2160w. The real reason you go higher voltage is because you increase your efficiency you lower the amperage and you increase the power. All what we want. Everyone upgrades their e-bikes to higher voltage trying to get to 72v. Rawrr just gave us what we want with 72v. Bravo!

    • @Mike_The_Bike_591
      @Mike_The_Bike_591 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Annon89 What @magmag9999 said above 👆; I’m happy 😃 you’re satisfied with your new e-Moto man but you’re missing *The Point* we just outlined above.
      Far more interesting than all this talk would be to Actually TEST OUT your Range in whatever terrain you’re riding bro and Report BACK on what you MEASURE… 😉😈🤘

    • @Mike_The_Bike_591
      @Mike_The_Bike_591 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@magmag9999 EXACTLY. Simple and *Concise* comment; I like it! 🙌👍😃

    • @annon-ski7985
      @annon-ski7985 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you drunk? did you even watch the video or do any research at all? Or did you just come here simply to wax poetically your opinion regardless of reality.

  • @yaitstac7267
    @yaitstac7267 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    W video, boutta get one of these, let’s see if it’s better than my XXX

    • @liamk9906
      @liamk9906 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yaitstac7267 let me know!

  • @TheTexasDuke
    @TheTexasDuke 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sick vid Pat putting them thru the pace’s

  • @HIPHOPMENTOR
    @HIPHOPMENTOR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If those plugs solid and battery damn near in the bike from the top , aint kno way water touching it on a trail, but the problem is more down pour rain on the bike that may have the most effect on that bike 👍

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Or the moment I drop the bike in the water.. some sections were almost 3 feet deep

    • @HIPHOPMENTOR
      @HIPHOPMENTOR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PatOutdoors Bike solid !

    • @Mr_E402
      @Mr_E402 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's the throttle connection and everything else that is the worry

  • @robertsilva5041
    @robertsilva5041 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Outstanding job Sir

  • @VoltedAdventures
    @VoltedAdventures 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That trail looks like a lot of fun! 🫡

  • @sandykaufmanrealtor6810
    @sandykaufmanrealtor6810 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool video but do you think that there are some features I can add for making it able to deal with rain and can wash it off and if there are any faster chragers for the bike?

  • @MisterEmoto
    @MisterEmoto 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Rawrr shoukd give you a commission because you got me to click "buy" lol

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL I wish, you gonna love it!

  • @liamk9906
    @liamk9906 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for doing this video!
    I would love your opinion on this though.
    A guy will sell me his talaria xxx with upgraded forks for $2250. I want to do a lot of off-roading and jumps. You think I should go for that or the Mantis X for ~$3500 after shipping and tax?

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean you really have to see the XXX in person to make that decision.. It sounds like an insanely good deal, assuming the battery still holds charge and nothing is broken or worn down (like pads, shocks, tires, etc.) What fork is installed?

    • @liamk9906
      @liamk9906 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PatOutdoors I think he said it’s got the talaria sting fork. As far as tires, he has the stock supermoto wheels so I would need to throw some dirt tires on there anyway. I didn’t check the brakes or battery but he does commute with it every day.

  • @Nobodyatall00
    @Nobodyatall00 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What up pat. Thank you for this video.

  • @zaza_grows_only6689
    @zaza_grows_only6689 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I live in ohio mine should be here tomorrow. glad to watch the same environment test. have you considered getting the foot break ? And if so do uk what foot break mounts up?

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m not big on foot brakes, but I’m planning on installing one for testing purposes and to demonstrate how to do so on this bike. Stay tuned for that video

    • @khoavo505
      @khoavo505 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey I was wondering how long do they take to ship I just paid the full amount on the 9th

    • @zaza_grows_only6689
      @zaza_grows_only6689 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PatOutdoors sweet thanks for the response.

    • @zaza_grows_only6689
      @zaza_grows_only6689 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@khoavo505 mine got shipped out on the 2th and should be here tomorrow California to ohio I noticed the tracking didn’t move on weekends so looks like only business days

    • @zaza_grows_only6689
      @zaza_grows_only6689 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PatOutdoors i also ordered the Bluetooth dongle i seen it’s cause some problems tho hopefully they fix it.

  • @DescartesRenegade
    @DescartesRenegade 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BombMoto B2. Comes as a roller with motor. You need to add your own controller and battery. Has 48mm forks.

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DescartesRenegade Right, but doesn’t come complete up front. How much do you think it would cost once you add a good 72V battery and controller? Also what’s the biggest size battery you can put on a B2 anyway?

    • @DescartesRenegade
      @DescartesRenegade 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PatOutdoors needs electronics only. Throttle, voltmeter, etc. I'm building a 72v 40Ah 150A with room to spare for it. The B2 is larger than the B1, btw. B2 is 14/17 wheelset and B1 is 12/14.

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DescartesRenegade That’s a lot of battery space! Sounds like it’s gonna be fun. Whats the total investment gonna be once it’s all done (including the b2)?

    • @DescartesRenegade
      @DescartesRenegade 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PatOutdoors under 3k total for 15kw. Little under $1900 for the rolling chassis, tax/shipping included. Another 1k for battery, controller, and ancillaries.

  • @jerrymazza4051
    @jerrymazza4051 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Which one do you think I should get for riding around and going off road too the xxx or rawr x

    • @bigb69ti
      @bigb69ti 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      xxx it dont even come close..

  • @ConnorGMedia
    @ConnorGMedia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This thing looks sweet!

  • @Charlieshredz
    @Charlieshredz หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should I buy the bomb moto b2, the rawrr x, it talaria xxx

  • @rickystafford7433
    @rickystafford7433 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the range and power dropoff after like 30-40% concerns me a little after seeing other videos but overall for $3k I don't think there's a better bang for the buck. I was considering the E-Ride but for my uses...especially more rural off-road riding, I think this is the way to go. In the future if I wanted to do more street use I think I'd be better off with more of an e-moped style anyway.

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rickystafford7433 Lots of things to consider. At the end of the day, it really depends if it matches your personal needs. To me, this is not a commuter - simply my dirt bike so it works. I have my Talaria for long rides

    • @Nr8k
      @Nr8k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My talaria does 48mph at 10% battery

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Nr8k so does my Talaria. The battery sag and overall capacity is the main weakness of this bike.

    • @Nr8k
      @Nr8k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PatOutdoors love your vids

  • @jayowen286
    @jayowen286 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:11 😅. If you get a chance can you pls post a picture of side by side size comparison of mantis x vs the Talaria x in your community feed. I sold my xxx because it felt a little small for me, I am trying to decide btwn the mantis x and the 72v mantis, im 6ft 200lbs the full sized version seems like it’ll suit me better, but idk if its worth an extra $1500

  • @yeezykobe-ro6jl
    @yeezykobe-ro6jl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how big of tires can you put? can you put the warp 21 and 19 on them?

  • @DavidSharber-p8w
    @DavidSharber-p8w 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do u have to cut the brown wire on them just like the talaria xxx

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DavidSharber-p8w no such thing. It’s software limited to 50 MPH

  • @vanessalynn3588
    @vanessalynn3588 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can we get a range comparison on x3 and mantis??
    On the fence between this two..

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@vanessalynn3588 Well I no longer have the stock 60V battery in my x3, it’s now equipped with a 74V 44AH battery. But I did test the range on the X3 previously when it was brand new and I was able to get 47 miles on one charge riding mostly on Sport mode and occasional Eco, averaging 25 MPH. I’ll be completely honest with you.. I don’t think the Mantis has anywhere close to that kind of range. I’ll do an official test eventually, but so far I’m suspecting around 30 miles with similar riding conditions

  • @MikeKochjr
    @MikeKochjr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m conflicted on which one of these two bikes to get my son for Xmas. I can get both for near dealer cost. Only thing holding me back on the mantis is the battery life…. That 30ah just isn’t going to be enough I don’t think.

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MikeKochjr that is the most noticeable weakness of this bike so far, but is to be expected at the price point. I think if they released it for $3,400 but with a 38AH battery, it would be a no-brainer. Another thing to keep in mind is it’s 72 volts, so don’t compare to 60 volt same AH batteries since 72 would have a higher capacity.

    • @bigb69ti
      @bigb69ti 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      IMO xxx is superior, Mantis x = less range, slow charger, No regen, no brake light, tail light? etc Just the slow charging and no regen is a turn off to me.

  • @BeastAkitaCZ
    @BeastAkitaCZ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, I would be very interested in the difference between the 72V and the 60V, would you do a drag race video of Mantis X vs XXX?❤ Thank you very much and I wish you many happy kilometers🙂

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BeastAkitaCZ hmm I may have to find someone with a stock XXX locally to do that. Mine has a 74V 44AH battery and upgraded controller so it hits 62 MPH pretty quickly.. wouldn’t be a fair comparison. I’ll see if I can find someone to race!

  • @cii5korea217
    @cii5korea217 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Random question
    Can I run a 72volt motor (kunray) on a 48Volt battery ? I was send out the wrong motor I had ordered a 48v 🤦🏻‍♂️ now I’m stuck with it for now

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Does it say what wattage the motor is rated for? It's good thing if you were sent the higher watt motor for the lower price.. gives you room to upgrade in the future. The controller is key - a 72V controller WILL NOT run on anything other than a 72V battery. Why don't you just return your kit to whoever you bought it from?

    • @cii5korea217
      @cii5korea217 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PatOutdoors motor rated at 3000W… and the controller says NOMINAL VOLTAGE RATED 3000w 48V-72V under voltage 42V
      I’d have to look into returning policy I think I have like 30 days to return …any 72 volt battery I recommend budge friendly since I already bought a brand new 48V battery 🔋 🤦🏻‍♂️ 😆….and thank you for the fast reply 🙏🏼

  • @carkidv
    @carkidv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would you recommend I buy this or the Talaria xxx. I was thinking the talaria xxx for myself since it’s already been put through its paces. Do you think I should wait for how the Mantis X does?

    • @carkidv
      @carkidv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Long term I mean

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think the Talaria XXX has more aftermarket upgrade options and support (as of now.) I've owned mine for over a year and still absolutely love it, though it is not as capable offroad. It really depends on YOUR use for the bike. If I were to be just riding around the city and occasional light trails, the XXX is for you. I still take my Talaria over this bike for street riding anyway because I like to take 30-40 mile rides and the XXX battery simply lasts longer.

    • @carkidv
      @carkidv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Alright makes sense. I will be waiting a while before I buy a bike, so we will see what I pick up. Thanks

  • @HIPHOPMENTOR
    @HIPHOPMENTOR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    eride pro s is the closest out the box period !!!! 💯

  • @mxoudi
    @mxoudi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did they send this bike to you for free?? Thank you for the review?

  • @DavidSharber-p8w
    @DavidSharber-p8w 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do they got any sticks for them yet

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DavidSharber-p8w LOL

    • @DavidSharber-p8w
      @DavidSharber-p8w 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PatOutdoors I mean stickers

  • @mt_mag
    @mt_mag 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi is it better than the talaria sting r?

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've ridden the Sting R several times and I would say no.. it's a different price bracket though. The Sting R is a better bike, but is $1,500 more than this bike.

  • @reecenekahi1445
    @reecenekahi1445 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it faster than the xxx

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That a stock XXX yes, but not this one..

  • @itspaysenfpv5634
    @itspaysenfpv5634 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just started doing TikTok live and my goal is to save all donations until I can afford one

  • @ConnorGMedia
    @ConnorGMedia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    pretty upset I didn't get to see the wheelie test😡

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂 you do for me

  • @HannibalSahura
    @HannibalSahura 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Try the Erode r1 they say that can hit 55 up to 60 mph

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HannibalSahura $4500 though.. but I’ll look into it!

    • @HannibalSahura
      @HannibalSahura 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @PatOutdoors it kind of got my attention bro I'm most definitely getting the rawrr mantis x it will be paid off this week see u soon when u come to bmore bro

    • @dbirds21
      @dbirds21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the erode has a power sag in throtte curve

  • @LarryRichelli
    @LarryRichelli 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why does no one take those ugly green stickers of the Mantis.I sure hope you don't break the frame on it cuz it looks real light weight!

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hmm honestly after a few of these wet rides.. they’re kinda taking themselves off my bike along the edges. So I may just take it all off the next few weeks if it continues

  • @SavageSafety
    @SavageSafety 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what kind of upgrades could you do to make the battery last longer ? and im thinking to get the rawrr but im waiting to see the new surron first

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm still looking into this! I haven't personally done an official range test, but saw @NPLVentures get about 30 miles on Sport mode city cruising (GPS) and @MotoBroo get low 20's on RACE mode (doing wheelies etc.) From my 7.8-mile off-road test (including several long climbs) I ended my day with 73% battery so I'm thinking real world range is about 25-30 miles for most people on SPORT mode the whole time.. The only upgrade I think you CAN do that will have a real effect is a larger battery. Or you can put around on ECO mode whenever you're just cruising..

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm also anxious to see the new Surron myself..

    • @SavageSafety
      @SavageSafety 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PatOutdoors im expecting a super nice bike from surron..its been long they have had time to make a great bike n they have a good base to work from already noone pressured them so this bike should be great.

    • @lmichels72
      @lmichels72 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rawrr has a new 72v 35ah battery coming soon for this

    • @PatOutdoors
      @PatOutdoors  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lmichels72 yes, do you happen to know the BMS output rating on that 35AH battery?