I’ve been waiting for someone with e-bike knowledge to review this bike and you did not disappoint! I wanted to see someone that also has the 3x to compare the two. I can’t wait to see more videos with this bike!
Wow, when Rawrr does something, they do it right. This thing is gorgeous, and it's impressive how much attention went to making everything perfect and still being so cheap.
Don't say you can't figure out why it's only $3000. Instead raise the question of why the others are so much more expensive! We've been getting flagrantly ripped off surron etc. Having the industry wrapped up has been a license to print money for surron and talaria. If we truly want our industry and sport to gain both popularity and exceptance. We need companies like this to open it up to a wider audience. So many people love these things until they here the price and then they catch they're breath and leave the conversation hating these thingsbecause they know they'll never be able to buy one and think of those who can are elitist snobs. Especially after you buy a surron etc. The first thing you want to do is upgrade it. Not many people can afford to pay more for an ebike than the cars they drive.
Well just to give you some perspective on how much upgrades are with these types of bike in general.. my 74V battery and charger alone from Charged Cycle works for my Talaria is $2,200.. that’s almost the cost of this whole bike. It’s not just Talaria and Surron, it’s the whole industry. Keep in mind regular pedal e-bikes from Specialized are also $8,000!
@@PatOutdoors right?! It's like are you kidding? You can't justify those prices when you realize they are spending $500 max and I mean max per bike to produce. It's crazy. As more and more companies tool up the prices will fall. I just don't feel like waiting 5-10yrs.lol I havthought about putting a kit on my downhill mountain bike.
They're not only 3K anymore. This industry is always growing. New companies hit with low prices at 1st then jack them up once the buzz is out. 4500 now
@@nbcursed1552 they called me the day the bike got to the VA terminal, then the freight company called me to schedule an appointment for the delivery. Signature required
Another great initial impression content. Looks like a very nice bike as well as great value. Maybe Ritchie will like it so I can have my XXX bike back😊😊
Wow... beautiful bike. I've always wanted a bike like that. I could say of all the e bikes I've seen on videos, this seems to be the cheapest. Though it's the range that a bit unreasonable with the stock battery that's included. As I said the price is acceptable if you're in the America. but here in the Philippines, it's a price of at least two second hand cars.
@@wadebrewer7212 Loving it and it’s a beast in the dirt! Did a ride out with 4 250 and had no issues keeping up and beating them off the line in Sport mode
@djcoolcliff I'm not the spring chicken I once was. I've owned two stroke dirt bikes and had YZ450F for a few years. Would like to have something to putz around on that is tame enough to ride with the kids on their bicycles but fun enough when I wake up feeling young for the day. Thanks for the feedback here. Much appreciated.
Good point, but you can say the same thing about the Talaria XXX, but E-Watt was still able to fit a 74V 44AH within the frame enclosure (that's what I have in my personal XXX)
12:50 easy fix, get a switch off of Amazon, only thing is you'll have 2 switchs, one for power to the headlights & the second one to control high & low beam...or you can find a 3 position switch & rewire it but that requires cutting
They already started shipping bikes out this week so if you pre-order now, you’ll likely get contacted by them a week or so later. You can call RAWRR if you have any questions about this 951-521-2980
@@breannacarter1435 I love my Talaria X3.. but I think this may be a better value per dollar. I also think it’s the better looking bike with a more comfortable seat. It does give out more dirt bike vibes though, which may be less Karen-friendly
That's hard to say since they are in slightly different price brackets, but the E-Ride pro is the best bang for the buck bike IMO. I think it's a fight between this and the /talaria XXX in this price bracket
@@PatOutdoors Yea I was hoping it might get by in that gray area lol. I know some places are more strict about these Surron type bikes than others. I saw in the real strict places people put on the bike pedal kits to work around it.
Hey pat love the video if you don't mind me asking the ttr 90 qs 138 e bay kit is the far driver controller tunable or does it come tuned? Just ordered mine for a ktm 125 frame.
It does not come pre-tuned. You need to program it yourself. Just look up either @VoltronWatts or @EMXBrandon 's guide on youtube, both of their videos on "How to program Fardriver controller" are very useful.
@@mt_mag they must be measured differently. Because I also owned a Surron LBX just a month ago and it’s 100% slower than this Mantis (in stock form.) The Surron did feel like low-end torque was a bit better, but overall acceleration is better with the mantis. The Surron has a larger support for aftermarket modifications though (if you’re planning on modifying.)
What is the name of the rear tire? I am looking for a good rear knobby for my xxx. This one looks better than the one that comes with the xxx off road wheel set which looks like a front tire on the rear.
@@AidenZ7334 well handlebars are pretty universal, but seats i believe GUTS racing has one out. What I really wanna see is a controller upgrade since the speed caps out at 50 mph, BUT seems like it could have had more juice to go faster if the limiter can be disabled.
@@AidenZ7334 I already am lol, though very little info about it. I’m still trying to figure out how to change setting on the controller and looking over the harness
@@Nobodyatall00 oof well.. I have both so maybe I’ll test them against each other this weekend. My XXX goes 62 MPh but I also have over $3K in mods invested in that bike so it’s not really a direct comparison 🤷🏾♂️
@@PatOutdoors That's why I was asking.I have a red lunar triple x and I was wondering before.I buy motors and controllers and batteries.If that wouldn't be a better all rounded bike.I'm upset with the 50 mile an hour mark.But it's torque is what i'm mainly interested in
How would you compare this bike in terms of performance with your custom builds like your YZ250, or the pit bike build with the QS138, or even the MX650?
It’s miles ahead of the pit bike or any of my razors for off-road capability, but not compared to my YZ250.. but keep in mind this is just how the bike comes from factory and I have well over $3K in parts modifications and 20 hours of disassembly / assembly / fabrication / wiring invested into my YZ250.. plus the cost of a Yz250. 🤷🏾♂️
No, but there are connectors for turn signals on the harness going to the front and blinker arrows in the display. So maybe retrofitting blinkers is an easy solution
@@PatOutdoors i saw it and knew its what i wanted and i was bummed when it said pre order still, i need time to get the funds but not a year lol. thank you
@@slingman1981 not the same class of bike. I think an E-ride pro SS is the better bike, but it’s also $1600 more.. so not the same price range. That’s like comparing a Volkswagen GTI to a BMW M3
Thank you! I ordered mine a week ago getting excited any day now it should be here. Your video made me wanna pull the trigger on the purchase keep Up the great work
Just got my Mantis X the other day. I pulled the battery out to recharge and clean out the dust and noticed 2 square rubber blocks laying in the bottom of the battery compartment. They were just laying there loose. I can't figure out where they came from. Do you know where they go ?
@@khoavo505 Love it. Perfect for what I wanted it for. It's faster and more powerful than I expected. I ordered mine on Aug 2 and it arrived at my house on Aug 7, so 5 days.
@PatOutdoors yeah, you have the Mantis X which people should get if they want a deal but the regular Mantis is the same price as Eride & is limited to about 54mph
@@PatOutdoors facts i emailed ebmx about the 9000 controller they put up for the mantis and they had the nerve to say there is no such thing and said keep on the look out
RAWRR claims over 60 miles on eco riding lower speeds, but I haven’t performed a range test yet. I’ll be doing further testing offroad and range as well next coming weeks so stay tuned. But from my short ride on Sport the whole time, I’m estimating maybe 25-30 miles higher speeds.
@@PatOutdoors i did have a really weird problem tho my display is showing zero percent and it won’t throttle or anything, i can’t connect to the app or anything but it still turns on and the light goes on, i asked for help from the support but i can’t find anything
@@PatOutdoors absolutely 100% I agree. I just wish they made a pedal kit for it. I like to abide by the Law, do you think they will come out with a pedal kit?
@@PatOutdoors that’s one of the reasons I want a P51, I want the suspension, especially for my older bones😂 I just hate the fact that it cost $1000 more than this😵💫 makes me sick
@@PatOutdoors I sent the a email in the middle of the night I hope they fix their website so I can preorder the 2024 model using PayPal. On their website you click PayPal check out option and it doesn’t do anything
@@pumpslumpgaming7773 hmm it depends what state you live in and what documents they require for registration. These bikes come with off-road only certificate of origins. But the bike has power outputs for turn signals on the left handle so.. one step closer I suppose
hOW ARE YOU LIKING THIS BIKE? I am seriously thinking of buying one today. I like the price point but for 2k more you can get the eride 2.0. I had the 4th surron sold in the united states and it wasnt good at all and pretty slow at 38mph with 60volt system. Ive been out riding street bikes and now Im coming back to electric moto. This bike looks good. I will mostly use it off road for jumps and trails. How does it feel riding hard, does it feel like its under powered at all? Do you think this company will release more power on this stock bike> The bike looks the best imho out of all of them......any info before I spend 3k would be nice. Thank you
I love this bike! The E-ride pro is definitely the better bike though, assuming you have the budget for it. For riding hard off-road trails, doesn’t feel underpowered at all. I actually made a video a few days after this one comparing how it performs vs my Talaria off road, in case you wanna check that out.. I think it’s the best bike for the price range.
@@PatOutdoors I like this mantis x but the mx4 talaria seems to have better useable punch and mx4 seems to be more planted. I did not like the talaria until your video. I have since researched it. NOrmally 60volt battery is a no go for me but this mx4 power system is refined and I think it has better useable punch and both bikes have similar top speeds. Does the stock mx4 have better suspension. I like to go big riding, drops and 20 30 foot gaps. The talria also sounds awesome on dirt trails.....whats your take so far, take the price out of equation....
@@dbirds21 Well my boss has an MX4 and I ride that here and there.. Taking price out of the equation, it is the better bike for what you're describing. Keep in mind it's a different class / bracket of E-Moto though, like comparing a BMW M3 to a 335i.
@@PatOutdoors The crappy deal is for 600 more I caan get the eride s.s which is better than the mx 4. What a shitty decision to make on my purchase which is happening in the morning. Its either the mantis x, mx4 or eride ss
Way better looking than the xXx and better price as well? This will be a much more attractive to buy!
it does not look better than the xxx lol, looks like shit
@@DylanColagiovanni shut up dylan
No its not bru💀 xxx looks sick when you upgrade this is bulky and bad for wheelies but 72 volt is better
@Ryan-ug1xw this bikes been out for a while got shitty reviews no ones interested. It hasn't and won't take sales from anyone
@@MotoAliasNo it hasn’t. They just started shipping them in late July. You’re thinking of the regular mantis, which was like $5,000+
I’ve been waiting for someone with e-bike knowledge to review this bike and you did not disappoint! I wanted to see someone that also has the 3x to compare the two. I can’t wait to see more videos with this bike!
Wow, when Rawrr does something, they do it right. This thing is gorgeous, and it's impressive how much attention went to making everything perfect and still being so cheap.
Attention to details and packaging is amazing. Definitely a quality machine with great team behind it.
Don't say you can't figure out why it's only $3000. Instead raise the question of why the others are so much more expensive! We've been getting flagrantly ripped off surron etc. Having the industry wrapped up has been a license to print money for surron and talaria. If we truly want our industry and sport to gain both popularity and exceptance. We need companies like this to open it up to a wider audience. So many people love these things until they here the price and then they catch they're breath and leave the conversation hating these thingsbecause they know they'll never be able to buy one and think of those who can are elitist snobs. Especially after you buy a surron etc. The first thing you want to do is upgrade it. Not many people can afford to pay more for an ebike than the cars they drive.
Well just to give you some perspective on how much upgrades are with these types of bike in general.. my 74V battery and charger alone from Charged Cycle works for my Talaria is $2,200.. that’s almost the cost of this whole bike. It’s not just Talaria and Surron, it’s the whole industry. Keep in mind regular pedal e-bikes from Specialized are also $8,000!
Correct
@@PatOutdoors right?! It's like are you kidding? You can't justify those prices when you realize they are spending $500 max and I mean max per bike to produce. It's crazy. As more and more companies tool up the prices will fall. I just don't feel like waiting 5-10yrs.lol I havthought about putting a kit on my downhill mountain bike.
They're not only 3K anymore.
This industry is always growing. New companies hit with low prices at 1st then jack them up once the buzz is out. 4500 now
Congrats on your new bike man, looks great 🫡
Been waiting for this video, my bike will be here in the next couple days!
@@nbcursed1552 how long ago did you order your bike?
@@PatOutdoors I put in the pre order 2 weeks ago and payed the full price on July 27th
@@PatOutdoors did they contact you about a time of day for delivery or do they just drop it off
@@nbcursed1552 they called me the day the bike got to the VA terminal, then the freight company called me to schedule an appointment for the delivery. Signature required
@@PatOutdoors okay that makes sense, hopefully I’ll get the call within the next week or so, thanks for the info.
Another great initial impression content. Looks like a very nice bike as well as great value. Maybe Ritchie will like it so I can have my XXX bike back😊😊
Wow... beautiful bike. I've always wanted a bike like that. I could say of all the e bikes I've seen on videos, this seems to be the cheapest. Though it's the range that a bit unreasonable with the stock battery that's included. As I said the price is acceptable if you're in the America. but here in the Philippines, it's a price of at least two second hand cars.
how big of tired can you put? can you put the warp 21 and 19 on them?
I got a Mantis! Loving that bike!!!!!!!!
Thoughts after 2 weeks?
@@wadebrewer7212 Loving it and it’s a beast in the dirt! Did a ride out with 4 250 and had no issues keeping up and beating them off the line in Sport mode
@djcoolcliff I'm not the spring chicken I once was. I've owned two stroke dirt bikes and had YZ450F for a few years. Would like to have something to putz around on that is tame enough to ride with the kids on their bicycles but fun enough when I wake up feeling young for the day. Thanks for the feedback here. Much appreciated.
@@wadebrewer7212 I worries at all! The Mantis is a monster but for the Mantix X selling for 3k isn’t a bad way to go! Both of them are 72 volts
I am considering getting one too even tho I have never ride
Dang ive been saveinh for a xxx but I think ima go with this one fs
Definitely a beautiful bike. My only issue is how would a bigger battery fit with the seat blocking it from having a bigger battery
Good point, but you can say the same thing about the Talaria XXX, but E-Watt was still able to fit a 74V 44AH within the frame enclosure (that's what I have in my personal XXX)
Just bought one
how long did it take to arrive ? i just ordered mine today and can't wait for it to arrive lol
How long did it take? 👀
@ about a week
Will police bother me if i ride it in NYC?
Amazing video but do you know of any turn signal kits that would work with this bike by chance?
Is that the qs120 v3 motor? The qs120 v3 is 60h, but the mantis one is 50h... Maybe a special order?
Comparison video against the talaria xXx?
Take my money rawrrrr!
12:50 easy fix, get a switch off of Amazon, only thing is you'll have 2 switchs, one for power to the headlights & the second one to control high & low beam...or you can find a 3 position switch & rewire it but that requires cutting
@@jamikes94 🤫 that’s for a later video, but yes
@@PatOutdoors if you want another video, you can swap the belt pully on my Eride next week😂😂😂😂
When did you order? I’m confused with the whole pre-order thing.
They already started shipping bikes out this week so if you pre-order now, you’ll likely get contacted by them a week or so later. You can call RAWRR if you have any questions about this 951-521-2980
@@porterhylok7552 I pre ordered about a week ago. Still waiting to hear something back which gives me time to watch more reviews lol
Glad you posted this vid! Been waiting for someone to review it. Do you think this or x3 is better for best bang for buck?
@@breannacarter1435 I love my Talaria X3.. but I think this may be a better value per dollar. I also think it’s the better looking bike with a more comfortable seat. It does give out more dirt bike vibes though, which may be less Karen-friendly
@@PatOutdoors appreciate the insight!
@@PatOutdoorsThanks for an honest review of this want to have this on my 🎉
My son rode this bike at Long Beach electrify , let me tell you it can take a few falls pretty good !
It’s a beast! Did your son drop it himself?!
Yoo!! It’s only 3k ?? Do you think this is the better bang for your buck than the ss ride pro 2.0??
That's hard to say since they are in slightly different price brackets, but the E-Ride pro is the best bang for the buck bike IMO. I think it's a fight between this and the /talaria XXX in this price bracket
What kind of controller does it have?
Can you do a video comparison with the razors ? Thanks
@@Rahmeek412 which razors? I only have modified SX500’s and MX650
is this stock the same size as a surron light bee x stock?
Just about, yeah. The seat is almost twice as long though so it’s more comfortable to ride and reposition yourself on
I'm thinking about buying one of these vs a Grom or Z125 Pro.
Well this isn’t street legal like the other two options, guess it really depends on your personal preference
@@PatOutdoors Yea I was hoping it might get by in that gray area lol. I know some places are more strict about these Surron type bikes than others. I saw in the real strict places people put on the bike pedal kits to work around it.
@@PatOutdoors One of the biggest things I’m worried about is what you said at the end about just going to a grocery store and parking it.
@@JaybLive95 gotta have a stem lock!
What’s the range vs the xxx ?
Do they also ship to eu?
Hey pat love the video if you don't mind me asking the ttr 90 qs 138 e bay kit is the far driver controller tunable or does it come tuned? Just ordered mine for a ktm 125 frame.
It does not come pre-tuned. You need to program it yourself. Just look up either @VoltronWatts or @EMXBrandon 's guide on youtube, both of their videos on "How to program Fardriver controller" are very useful.
The mantis x has 28nm torque and the surron lbx has 250nm torque. How much difference does that make and is it noticable? Pls answer ty
@@mt_mag they must be measured differently. Because I also owned a Surron LBX just a month ago and it’s 100% slower than this Mantis (in stock form.) The Surron did feel like low-end torque was a bit better, but overall acceleration is better with the mantis. The Surron has a larger support for aftermarket modifications though (if you’re planning on modifying.)
stockk surrons suck.... they are weak. only good for for street riding..
What is the name of the rear tire? I am looking for a good rear knobby for my xxx. This one looks better than the one that comes with the xxx off road wheel set which looks like a front tire on the rear.
Where did you buy it from ?Thanks.
You can get it from riderawrr (dot) com, the direct link to the listing is also in the description of this video!
Can we order it right now or do we. Have to pre order
@@cbcncncndnncndxk they’re available to order now! Link to their site is in the description
Do you think there’ll be any aftermarket parts? Or are there any bikes with the same aftermarket accessories like handlebars or seat covers?
@@AidenZ7334 well handlebars are pretty universal, but seats i believe GUTS racing has one out. What I really wanna see is a controller upgrade since the speed caps out at 50 mph, BUT seems like it could have had more juice to go faster if the limiter can be disabled.
@@PatOutdoors will you be looking into the limiter?
@@AidenZ7334 I already am lol, though very little info about it. I’m still trying to figure out how to change setting on the controller and looking over the harness
@@PatOutdoors ok thanks that’s awesome. What do you think the top speed will be after the limiter? Pushing 60?
Hey pat power wise how does it stack up against the xxx with the p24f and batt upgrad? Awesome vid by the way
@@Nobodyatall00 oof well.. I have both so maybe I’ll test them against each other this weekend. My XXX goes 62 MPh but I also have over $3K in mods invested in that bike so it’s not really a direct comparison 🤷🏾♂️
@@PatOutdoors That's why I was asking.I have a red lunar triple x and I was wondering before.I buy motors and controllers and batteries.If that wouldn't be a better all rounded bike.I'm upset with the 50 mile an hour mark.But it's torque is what i'm mainly interested in
can someone help do you have to buy the charger separately or does it come with the bike
@@Siobal-e2y It comes with the bike. All bikes should come with chargers.. Did you not get one with your Mantis?
How would you compare this bike in terms of performance with your custom builds like your YZ250, or the pit bike build with the QS138, or even the MX650?
It’s miles ahead of the pit bike or any of my razors for off-road capability, but not compared to my YZ250.. but keep in mind this is just how the bike comes from factory and I have well over $3K in parts modifications and 20 hours of disassembly / assembly / fabrication / wiring invested into my YZ250.. plus the cost of a Yz250. 🤷🏾♂️
I would compare it with similar class bikes as far as handling such as my Talaria XXX or Surron Light Bee X
Are there blinkers?
No, but there are connectors for turn signals on the harness going to the front and blinker arrows in the display. So maybe retrofitting blinkers is an easy solution
Would you say this is a better bike than the Surron lightbee X ?
A completely stock Surron LBX with a 60V battery? Yes.
what phone mount are you running
Lamicall: amzn.to/3LXk0AY
it says preorders ship in july did u get a reviewers unit or did they just not update the site
They have been shipping out orders, but yes I did receive a reviewers unit
@@PatOutdoors i saw it and knew its what i wanted and i was bummed when it said pre order still, i need time to get the funds but not a year lol. thank you
@@redditstorriesfromtheabyss a year? Some people in the comments are already getting their bikes
What app are you using for MPH?
It’s literally just called “speedometer” on the App Store lol
looks like theyre shipping them out, had to unfortunately sell my sting r but for 1500 less i might be saving for this
Is there after market parts for this Bike?
Bit by bit companies are coming out with options. Handlebars, sprocket sets, brake upgrades, etc. No battery or controller yet though (so far.)
I bought my Talaria from Alibaba it comes with stem lock and turn signals.
How much was it including shipping? My Talaria XXx black edition from Luna does not have that
link?
$2,950 including shipping
which model talaria
Link?
Can you add pedals?
I don’t think there’s room on the drivetrain to add pedals
How does it compair to an e ride pro ss?
@@slingman1981 not the same class of bike. I think an E-ride pro SS is the better bike, but it’s also $1600 more.. so not the same price range. That’s like comparing a Volkswagen GTI to a BMW M3
How long did it take for your bike to come?
About two weeks (at the time)
Thank you! I ordered mine a week ago getting excited any day now it should be here. Your video made me wanna pull the trigger on the purchase keep
Up the great work
Is it a lot bigger than the x3? Because I’m about 5’7 and I’m wondering if it’s too big. Please let me know thanks!
@@oliviagregwer-cr6tm it’s taller than my x3, but I’m 5’8 and have both my feet flat on the ground when I’m sitting on it
@ Ok thanks!
Just got my Mantis X the other day. I pulled the battery out to recharge and clean out the dust and noticed 2 square rubber blocks laying in the bottom of the battery compartment. They were just laying there loose. I can't figure out where they came from. Do you know where they go ?
How are you liking the bike and how long did it take to ship to you I ordered mine and it shipped but haven’t got any updates
@@khoavo505 Love it. Perfect for what I wanted it for. It's faster and more powerful than I expected. I ordered mine on Aug 2 and it arrived at my house on Aug 7, so 5 days.
First thing I’m doing is going to auto parts and getting a back light! 😅
Are you gonna wire it up to activate with your brake levers or just always on?
@@PatOutdoors to turn on at break activation would be the goal for sure. But any back light would help you know.
Rawrr definitely has the best headlight & Display....ill still choose Eride for out the box performance because im speed demon lol
@@jamikes94 It’s not the same price range tho 😂
@PatOutdoors yeah, you have the Mantis X which people should get if they want a deal but the regular Mantis is the same price as Eride & is limited to about 54mph
Truuu
This bike with a controller mod from a giy in Cali is faster than eride pro I jist raced one and couldn't believe it the mod is like 350 or 399 too
Would it be compatible with a 230 lbs person?
I’m 230lbs and I ride it fine
@@southjerseysoles797 thanks for the feedback
When I look on the website it says preorder can someone help me
@@Cooper-m1f it says you can get it in a week when I look at rawrr’s page: riderawrr.com/products/72v-rawrr-mantis-x-pre-order
Wow..fire new bike!?
Yessirr
That charger plug looks like my surron ultra bee plug.
I would think the battery charging input rated at least 8, if not 10amp
I would be happy with a 10A charge rate!
That 50mph limitation will need to be removed or new controller ebmx 9000 might need to be installed
Yeah I gotta figure it out, seems like a pretty hard cut so I know it's got the juice to do more if unlocked.
@@PatOutdoors facts i emailed ebmx about the 9000 controller they put up for the mantis and they had the nerve to say there is no such thing and said keep on the look out
Where in VA are you?
@@thatonekiddoyk Fairfax
@@PatOutdoors aww I'm down near Culpeper
Please let me know about group rides! I would love to come up from RVA!!!!!! Wow didn’t know was in VA!!!!
@@djcoolcliff You let me know as well! I've always been interested in riding in Richmond
@@PatOutdoors Word! Every Thursday at The Krogers in Carytown at 7:30pm. We do the Broad Street bullies city ride! That’s a nice cruising chill ride!
Can you send me the link that you bought it
The link to their website pre order is in the description
Faster than a surron and way way cheaper!!!!! What!!!!
What app are website did you buy this on
Rawrr directly (link in the description)
What’s the range on it(just started the video) or your estimate
RAWRR claims over 60 miles on eco riding lower speeds, but I haven’t performed a range test yet. I’ll be doing further testing offroad and range as well next coming weeks so stay tuned. But from my short ride on Sport the whole time, I’m estimating maybe 25-30 miles higher speeds.
@@PatOutdoorspersonally i got 45 miles in half eco half street, it was super fun and im so happy with my division of this over the xxx
@@rexhardman2519 good to hear!
@@PatOutdoors i did have a really weird problem tho my display is showing zero percent and it won’t throttle or anything, i can’t connect to the app or anything but it still turns on and the light goes on, i asked for help from the support but i can’t find anything
@@rexhardman2519 hmm hopefully I don’t run into that same issue. If I do, I’ll try to find a solution for you
We need a review ASAP
@@aggelos1287 still putting it through the paces. I just posted some offroad durability testing etc yesterday
do you guys think someone who is 4,11 would fit on that bike
Wow not bad👍🏽 cheaper than the P 51. I was thinking about buying. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@JerseyStyle7 dude I think it’s an insane value
@@PatOutdoors absolutely 100% I agree. I just wish they made a pedal kit for it. I like to abide by the Law, do you think they will come out with a pedal kit?
@@JerseyStyle7 Looking over the drivetrain, I don’t think it would be possible. At least would take quite a bit of modification
@@PatOutdoors that’s one of the reasons I want a P51, I want the suspension, especially for my older bones😂 I just hate the fact that it cost $1000 more than this😵💫 makes me sick
@@JerseyStyle7 talaria xxx with petal kit is 3300 from lunacycle
I love the bike 🥹😍
Does anyone know what the final price on these bikes are with shipping and stuff?
3300 300$ shipping
can u charge the battery out of the bike?
@@gabe1392 yes
@@PatOutdoors thanx for the reply
I want to buy it but the website won’t let me use PayPal so I can use pay later PayPal
Why don’t you call RAWRR and ask them what your options are?
@@PatOutdoors I sent the a email in the middle of the night I hope they fix their website so I can preorder the 2024 model using PayPal. On their website you click PayPal check out option and it doesn’t do anything
so ss pro is faster.?
@@Exo_carbon.24 yes, but for an extra $1500
@@PatOutdoors would you buy a pro ss 2.0 ?
Is there a possibility that this could be street legal?
@@pumpslumpgaming7773 hmm it depends what state you live in and what documents they require for registration. These bikes come with off-road only certificate of origins. But the bike has power outputs for turn signals on the left handle so.. one step closer I suppose
are these street legal
If you register it sure
Want one man
Looks like the same plug as the e ride pro
🤔 Wonder if it can take the higher amp input though
@PatOutdoors I have.
Both bikes but the rawrr is still in the crate
@@ogcabbage6213 Please confirm if you can test it!
@@ogcabbage6213 what happen were you able to test it too see if "FAST/FASTER CHARGING " is avialble on the mantis x ?
They say it’s 3k BUT ON THE WEBSITE ITS ALMOST AS MUCH AS A SURRON
@@markuscarlsen5283 I think you’re looking at the wrong Mantis. The Mantis X is $3000, the bigger mantis is like $4500
@@PatOutdoorsyeah it’s just cuz I’ve seen so many people review the big one and say it costs 3k when it’s over 4k?
@@markuscarlsen5283 well this is the middle size one (X) and it is in fact only $3K. There are (3) different Mantis ranging from $2,400 to $4500.
They're closer to 5K now. They jacked the price up as soon as the word about them got out
It’s still $3K today for the Mantis X. You’re thinking of their bigger 72V mantis, which is $5K
It's 3k still. I work at an official dealer and we sell them for 3k.
Wait until yeh controller malfunctions and your stuck in eco or battery saver mode
Hmm this happened to yours? It randomly just failed on you or did you connect via the app?
no regen braking is killing me, that 30ah is more like 20ah
You have one? Do you ride mostly on Sport or race?
The frame of XXX is a l;ot stronger then the frame of rawr as the rawr bikes frames are fragile
3k because companies taxing.
It goes 80km
Need some sumos
Mmm I think I'm keeping these tires on this one, since I'll likely be riding on some dirt trails the next coming weeks! But maybe in the future
bike is cool and all, but that bit in front of the battery is so stupid looking I think it holds most people back from it
@@Smokey00 are you talking about the controller being mounted on the front or just Rawrr’s frame design in general?
3 grand because of no re-gen....
My 50cc scooter is faster. Rough house 50 and it's off-road.
Customer service sucks ass at rawrr
hOW ARE YOU LIKING THIS BIKE? I am seriously thinking of buying one today. I like the price point but for 2k more you can get the eride 2.0. I had the 4th surron sold in the united states and it wasnt good at all and pretty slow at 38mph with 60volt system. Ive been out riding street bikes and now Im coming back to electric moto. This bike looks good. I will mostly use it off road for jumps and trails. How does it feel riding hard, does it feel like its under powered at all? Do you think this company will release more power on this stock bike> The bike looks the best imho out of all of them......any info before I spend 3k would be nice. Thank you
I love this bike! The E-ride pro is definitely the better bike though, assuming you have the budget for it. For riding hard off-road trails, doesn’t feel underpowered at all. I actually made a video a few days after this one comparing how it performs vs my Talaria off road, in case you wanna check that out.. I think it’s the best bike for the price range.
@@PatOutdoors I couldnt find that video. Is it the one titled it can take a beating
@@PatOutdoors I like this mantis x but the mx4 talaria seems to have better useable punch and mx4 seems to be more planted. I did not like the talaria until your video. I have since researched it. NOrmally 60volt battery is a no go for me but this mx4 power system is refined and I think it has better useable punch and both bikes have similar top speeds. Does the stock mx4 have better suspension. I like to go big riding, drops and 20 30 foot gaps. The talria also sounds awesome on dirt trails.....whats your take so far, take the price out of equation....
@@dbirds21 Well my boss has an MX4 and I ride that here and there.. Taking price out of the equation, it is the better bike for what you're describing. Keep in mind it's a different class / bracket of E-Moto though, like comparing a BMW M3 to a 335i.
@@PatOutdoors The crappy deal is for 600 more I caan get the eride s.s which is better than the mx 4. What a shitty decision to make on my purchase which is happening in the morning. Its either the mantis x, mx4 or eride ss