Noooo you CAN use copper peptides with retinoids. Please don’t tell your viewers that you can’t. I have done a ton of research on this and have asked many experts and they say it’s fine. Penn Smith discusses this and says it’s fine as well. You can use them with Tretinoin or retinoids- it’s totally fine. It’s not a matter of canceling anything out but a matter of sensitivity. If you can tolerate it go for it. But I find copper peptides to be anti inflammatory so the pairing actually works well AND it actually can reduce sensitivity from retinoids. The only thing you have to avoid with copper peptides is ascorbic acid. Derivatives are fine. I probably wouldn’t use them with glycolic or other acids to be safe. The strong antioxidants are also fine. (That comes from the ordinary specifically anyway)
Hi Sarah & Community! I’ve been using the Peach & Lily for almost 3 weeks and am flying through the bottle crazy fast! I wish it felt more hydrating on my dry skin. I wish I had known the Ordinary had more copper peptides that I would have chosen that instead! Not super impressed with P&L. Hope that helps someone! 💜
I love the feel and formulation of the peach and lily it’s absolutely fabulous but I feel the ordinary gives better results. I switched back after a few months but highly recommend both
I get around the dropper bottle issue of The Ordinary's products by purchasing the NIOD pumps! They fit perfectly, of course💗💗💗oh yeah, I won't buy the Peach and Lily unless it's on sale 50% off cuz that's too much for what you get.
Shocked that the ordinary has so much more of the copper peptide! Thank you so much for comparing these two, super valuable information! I am disappointed that peach and Lily watered down the star ingredient so much.
Yup, definitely gonna stick to my tried and true TO, I see no reason to spend the extra $, where the product is not that impressive. Thank you so much for the review !!! ❤
I’ve never tried copper peptides before. The Ordinary’s copper peptides sounds like something worth trying. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience with these two products Sarah😊
I found out that Growth Factors don't cause cancer cells to grow it is like a reverse thing so if u have any cancer in your family u do t have to be worried by it. Kelly Driscoll did an interview with the maker of Stratia today and she explained the Growth Factors and Cancer thing along with alot of other stuff. I also heard that it won't cause cancer cells to grow from Dr Drea and another derm . I just thought u might want to know or watch that interview Kelly did with her it's pretty interesting.
LOVE the Niod Copper peptide serum. More expensive than TO but think there is a higher percentage of copper peptide. It's also a watery serum. Obviously, more expensive (but I get 2 when they go on sale). Dr PIckart also sells a copper peptide. Going to try Pickarts when I finish up the bottle of the NIOD. I've tried Biossance, TO and Niod. Niod copper peptide is hands down -- my favorite.
@@gategirl66 I just ordered Pickart's CP serum. Believe it was around $20 or $30. Haven't used yet because I'm finishing up the NIOD CP serum first. Pickart's CP serum definitely less expensive than NIOD.
Good afternoon, Sarah 💙 I have been waiting for THIS review for weeks since you first mentioned you were trying out the P&L. I, too, just purchased the P&L copper peptides and have been using for close to two weeks. I loved TO product when I used it about a year ago but went back to Vitamin C. I think I'm going to stick with copper peptides for a while because I loved the effects it had on my skin. I am enjoying the P&L but will probably go back the TO for the very reasons you mentioned. Why pay more for less copper, which is the main reason I purchased the product in the first place, and the results were wonderful. I will finish my P&L bottle and then return the TO. Thanks for your review. It has been helpful.
Ulta just had a half off sale on the Peach & Lily peptide pro moisturizer (it was $22.50, regularly $45 full priced) so I bought it and just got it in the mail today so I tested it this morning when I did my skincare routine and I like it off of first impression. They also included a free sample size of the P&L peptide serum that you’re talking about in this video and I also just tried that too for the first time and it is very liquidy but I would need to use them both more frequently to really see if I notice any differences in my skin. I prefer a super rich moisturizer and I didn’t really think the peptide pro firming moisturizer was all that rich.. but it was definitely worth the half off price tag! That’s the main reason why I bought it lol
I’m already lovin P&L glass serum and I mix in the Nue co powder c and babee!,, I do want to move peptides into my regime. I do use retinols every other night so maybe will replace the Génifique which I got on sale when it runs out. Thanks for the share and review.
Can you please comment on the obvious abundance of plant derivatives in the Peach & Lily? What are they there for? I have EXTREMELY sensitive skin and try to avoid plant extracts and added fragrance /perfume. Thanks. Love your channel.
Hey I can help with this. Some of them have specific uses. Like mushroom extracts- these have beta glucans which are soothing. They also have hydrating properties and antioxidants. Most plant extracts have antioxidant abilities as well. These soothing ones probably won’t sensitize you But Peach and Lily goes overboard I think. Some of them like the eggplant and basil and all of that- we don’t have much data on those. I’m pretty sure they’re using a proprietary blend because I constantly see that mix in so many products (eggplant, holy basil, ivy gourd). But yes, if you have extremely sensitive skin or have allergic reactions a lot, less ingredients is always better
@@FuriedHearts Thanks for the info. I definitely would err on the side of caution. I actually use a mix of Hyaluronic acid (Good Molecules currently) a very small amount of Niacinimide serum (also Good Molecules) a small amount of pure glycerin and purified water in a spray bottle as a serum/toner after gentle cleansing and then Skinfix barrier cream… a Korean hydrating lotion spf and then Purito BB cream if I wear makeup. All this keeps most sensitivity at bay, but even still I’ll occasionally get unexplained red blotches. (Could be hair products). It’s a struggle for sure. I’d love to be able to use some Vit C products or retinol/retinal but wow… that’s asking for trouble.
Love your reviews and honesty. I’m sticking with the ordinary because I’m buying it for the copper peptides. Do you think the niod copier peptides are worth the money?
I think I will try the Ordinary one, I feel like being consistent with a product is so much easier if that product is affordable. How long do you think it might take to be able to evaluate results? My routine is mostly focused on hydration and reducing hyperpigmentation at present. Do you have an opinion on ingesting collagen peptides? I have just started researching.
Ulta allowed for a purchase of some of earlier 21 day deals so I threw in the ordinary peptide. It was free shipping but I will try to use any link you offer in the future since you definitely were the tipping point. 🙏🏿💯💕
Great video! You helped rule out Peach and Lily for me. Have you seen Niche Beauty Lab's copper peptide? It's got 3% copper peptide. I'm hoping to pick that up soon!
Did you know that you can buy pump tops that fit on all The Ordinary bottles? They are sold through December for about $2.50 each, but you can use them many times over. I bought 4 of them and just keep them for my new products when I use one up!
Giving the ppl what they want! 👏🏻I was hoping for this one & I will be sticking to TO Buffet + Copper. I got a free sample & was hoping I could stick with the cheaper one 😅. My skin has dramatically become more dry like within a week with the fall transition I guess. Time to amp up the moisturizers! 👏🏻
I don't like the way their gel cleanser, matcha moisturizer or the peptide moisturizer smells. My skin reacted badly and instantly to the peptide cream.
@@paulayarbrough6930 I agree. Are you talking about the one that smells like bergamot? Ugh. I can’t stand fragranced skincare. It feels like I’m slathering perfume on my face
@@FuriedHearts yes...the bergamot oil 🤢 when I smell that...2 things come to mind....Fruit Loops and lemon dish soap 😂 Maybe there's something wrong with my nose or possibly my brain lol either way I don't like that scent. At this point I avoid Peach and Lily products.
I love copper peptides. I use my biossance one every other day. Alternative with the dark spot serum. It’s expensive but I do feel getting almost two ounces it’s not too much more per ounce.
I've been using the copper peptide serum for about 2yrs and I never knew u couldn't mix with certain other serums Dies it cut down effectiveness if u do?
Yeah it does. I did that at first too. Depending on what specifically. I realized it wasn’t just about too many actives being harsh, but also effectiveness. But I read somewhere you can wait 30 minutes or more in between. I just do different things for different needs or days. Vitamin C plus TO Buffet w Copper can cause a yellow residue which it did for me around the edges of my face. And then any acids + Buffet Copper or Retinol + actives will loose their effectiveness unless u wait.
I wonder if the P&L has some kind of light filter in the bottle? I know that Now has bottles that are clear, but the plastic has a filter in it that doesn't allow light damage. Don't know if they can do that with glass.
I just found and started using the Ultra Lift DMAC Concentrated Serum with Copper peptides and Resveratrol by Derma E. I think I paid $26 on Amazon. Penn Smith talked about it. Didn't know if you had heard anything about it.
I am SO relieved they didn’t put fragrance in this. This brand is decent but sometimes they use fragrance. Like in their copper peptide moisturizer which smells like bergamot. This serum is actually really nice ingredients wise. TONS of hydrating ingredients too (several mushroom extracts, several forms of HA, apple lentil watermelon complex, peptides). Copper peptides is high up on the ingredients too. Not sure if they disclosed the %?
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The fact that I literally came on TH-cam just now to search reviews on the peach & lily copper peptide serum and you JUST uploaded this 😩🙌🏾 YES!
I know!! I just got a deluxe sample of the peach and lily and I just had bought the ordinary one I'm so excited!!!
Noooo you CAN use copper peptides with retinoids. Please don’t tell your viewers that you can’t. I have done a ton of research on this and have asked many experts and they say it’s fine. Penn Smith discusses this and says it’s fine as well. You can use them with Tretinoin or retinoids- it’s totally fine. It’s not a matter of canceling anything out but a matter of sensitivity. If you can tolerate it go for it. But I find copper peptides to be anti inflammatory so the pairing actually works well AND it actually can reduce sensitivity from retinoids.
The only thing you have to avoid with copper peptides is ascorbic acid. Derivatives are fine. I probably wouldn’t use them with glycolic or other acids to be safe. The strong antioxidants are also fine. (That comes from the ordinary specifically anyway)
I use my ordinary copper peptides in the morning and my tretinoin at night. Hasn't bothered my skin so I do hope the two don't cancel anything out.
so retinoic acid is fine?
You can use vitc in the morning and copper peptides at night with retinoic acid .
I thout copper with Retinal was ok.
You also shouldn’t use copper peptides with kojic acid.
Hi Sarah & Community! I’ve been using the Peach & Lily for almost 3 weeks and am flying through the bottle crazy fast! I wish it felt more hydrating on my dry skin. I wish I had known the Ordinary had more copper peptides that I would have chosen that instead! Not super impressed with P&L. Hope that helps someone! 💜
I love the feel and formulation of the peach and lily it’s absolutely fabulous but I feel the ordinary gives better results. I switched back after a few months but highly recommend both
I get around the dropper bottle issue of The Ordinary's products by purchasing the NIOD pumps! They fit perfectly, of course💗💗💗oh yeah, I won't buy the Peach and Lily unless it's on sale 50% off cuz that's too much for what you get.
I was so happy to see that you compared these. You’re always thorough and knowledgeable. “The Skincare Whisperer”🤣🤣
Thanks, girlie🍃🌸
Shocked that the ordinary has so much more of the copper peptide! Thank you so much for comparing these two, super valuable information! I am disappointed that peach and Lily watered down the star ingredient so much.
Yup, definitely gonna stick to my tried and true TO, I see no reason to spend the extra $, where the product is not that impressive. Thank you so much for the review !!! ❤
I’ve never tried copper peptides before. The Ordinary’s copper peptides sounds like something worth trying. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience with these two products Sarah😊
how do they both compare to the niod
I found out that Growth Factors don't cause cancer cells to grow it is like a reverse thing so if u have any cancer in your family u do t have to be worried by it. Kelly Driscoll did an interview with the maker of Stratia today and she explained the Growth Factors and Cancer thing along with alot of other stuff. I also heard that it won't cause cancer cells to grow from Dr Drea and another derm . I just thought u might want to know or watch that interview Kelly did with her it's pretty interesting.
Theramid has a 3% copper peptide serum they just released that I think you’d either really like or hate, please try!
Just opened it a few days ago ! I mix it with an essence to apply more easily
@@jensab3535 omg do you like?
LOVE the Niod Copper peptide serum. More expensive than TO but think there is a higher percentage of copper peptide. It's also a watery serum. Obviously, more expensive (but I get 2 when they go on sale). Dr PIckart also sells a copper peptide. Going to try Pickarts when I finish up the bottle of the NIOD. I've tried Biossance, TO and Niod. Niod copper peptide is hands down -- my favorite.
I'd love to try Dr. Pickart's, too. Seeing he was the OG, I'd think it would be really good 🤷🏻♀️ Wish it wasn't so expensive, though 😕
@@gategirl66 I just ordered Pickart's CP serum. Believe it was around $20 or $30. Haven't used yet because I'm finishing up the NIOD CP serum first. Pickart's CP serum definitely less expensive than NIOD.
Thank you for this! I am just dipping my toes into copper peptides and sure did need the information!
Good afternoon, Sarah 💙
I have been waiting for THIS review for weeks since you first mentioned you were trying out the P&L. I, too, just purchased the P&L copper peptides and have been using for close to two weeks. I loved TO product when I used it about a year ago but went back to Vitamin C. I think I'm going to stick with copper peptides for a while because I loved the effects it had on my skin. I am enjoying the P&L but will probably go back the TO for the very reasons you mentioned. Why pay more for less copper, which is the main reason I purchased the product in the first place, and the results were wonderful. I will finish my P&L bottle and then return the TO.
Thanks for your review. It has been helpful.
Ulta just had a half off sale on the Peach & Lily peptide pro moisturizer (it was $22.50, regularly $45 full priced) so I bought it and just got it in the mail today so I tested it this morning when I did my skincare routine and I like it off of first impression. They also included a free sample size of the P&L peptide serum that you’re talking about in this video and I also just tried that too for the first time and it is very liquidy but I would need to use them both more frequently to really see if I notice any differences in my skin. I prefer a super rich moisturizer and I didn’t really think the peptide pro firming moisturizer was all that rich.. but it was definitely worth the half off price tag! That’s the main reason why I bought it lol
I’m already lovin P&L glass serum and I mix in the Nue co powder c and babee!,, I do want to move peptides into my regime. I do use retinols every other night so maybe will replace the Génifique which I got on sale when it runs out. Thanks for the share and review.
Thank you Sarah, I love your reviews. They help me make informed decisions on what to buy❤
Do you have an updated skincare routine? I just got the ordinary one but not sure what i shouldn’t be using lol
When are you gonna do peach & lily VS biossance? I’m dying for that one !
Curious, are copper peptides better for aging skin or retinol? Maybe both?
I love that you always give lots of options! ❤️
Can you please comment on the obvious abundance of plant derivatives in the Peach & Lily? What are they there for? I have EXTREMELY sensitive skin and try to avoid plant extracts and added fragrance /perfume. Thanks. Love your channel.
Hey I can help with this. Some of them have specific uses. Like mushroom extracts- these have beta glucans which are soothing. They also have hydrating properties and antioxidants. Most plant extracts have antioxidant abilities as well. These soothing ones probably won’t sensitize you
But Peach and Lily goes overboard I think. Some of them like the eggplant and basil and all of that- we don’t have much data on those. I’m pretty sure they’re using a proprietary blend because I constantly see that mix in so many products (eggplant, holy basil, ivy gourd). But yes, if you have extremely sensitive skin or have allergic reactions a lot, less ingredients is always better
@@FuriedHearts Thanks for the info. I definitely would err on the side of caution. I actually use a mix of Hyaluronic acid (Good Molecules currently) a very small amount of Niacinimide serum (also Good Molecules) a small amount of pure glycerin and purified water in a spray bottle as a serum/toner after gentle cleansing and then Skinfix barrier cream… a Korean hydrating lotion spf and then Purito BB cream if I wear makeup. All this keeps most sensitivity at bay, but even still I’ll occasionally get unexplained red blotches. (Could be hair products). It’s a struggle for sure. I’d love to be able to use some Vit C products or retinol/retinal but wow… that’s asking for trouble.
So glad you're doing this!
Love your reviews and honesty. I’m sticking with the ordinary because I’m buying it for the copper peptides. Do you think the niod copier peptides are worth the money?
Thank you for all you do Your re reviews are SO helpful
Thanks for doing this review!! Was really thinking about the peach and lilly. Thanks for saving me some money!!
I like the matte finish of the Ordinary. That alone makes my skin look firmer.
This is Gonna b so Good Sarah🔥🔥🔥👍n Happy Saturday😀….
Question. You mentioned you have been using the ordinary CP serum for about 4 yrs. How long have been using the P&L CP before you did this review?
I'm SO tempted to get the Ordinary serum! I've been using Klairs Midnight Blue drops. How do they compare?
I think I will try the Ordinary one, I feel like being consistent with a product is so much easier if that product is affordable. How long do you think it might take to be able to evaluate results? My routine is mostly focused on hydration and reducing hyperpigmentation at present.
Do you have an opinion on ingesting collagen peptides? I have just started researching.
Ulta allowed for a purchase of some of earlier 21 day deals so I threw in the ordinary peptide. It was free shipping but I will try to use any link you offer in the future since you definitely were the tipping point. 🙏🏿💯💕
Great video! You helped rule out Peach and Lily for me. Have you seen Niche Beauty Lab's copper peptide? It's got 3% copper peptide. I'm hoping to pick that up soon!
I got that recently. I love that company
Did you know that you can buy pump tops that fit on all The Ordinary bottles? They are sold through December for about $2.50 each, but you can use them many times over. I bought 4 of them and just keep them for my new products when I use one up!
Sold through Deciem!!😂
I love how your top here is the same color as copper peptides 😊
Can copper peptides (Theramide) be used with niacinamide (BOJ ginseng water essence) x
I tried Ordinary and its very good as are their Argieiline. And 1% copper is way more sorry and 17 euro cheaper in my country.
I have been waiting for this review!!
Thank you so much Sarah for your reviews ✨✨✨✨
Giving the ppl what they want! 👏🏻I was hoping for this one & I will be sticking to TO Buffet + Copper. I got a free sample & was hoping I could stick with the cheaper one 😅. My skin has dramatically become more dry like within a week with the fall transition I guess. Time to amp up the moisturizers! 👏🏻
Hola ❤ I went to Ulta I checked out the copperpeptides and has a weird fragrance don't like I preferred the Otdinary
I don't like the way their gel cleanser, matcha moisturizer or the peptide moisturizer smells. My skin reacted badly and instantly to the peptide cream.
@paulayarbrough6930 I smell the product and test on my hand and had a reaction.
@@paulayarbrough6930 I agree. Are you talking about the one that smells like bergamot? Ugh. I can’t stand fragranced skincare. It feels like I’m slathering perfume on my face
@FuriedHearts I'm talking about the copper peptides weird smell I don't know I bergamot is in the copper peptides
@@FuriedHearts yes...the bergamot oil 🤢 when I smell that...2 things come to mind....Fruit Loops and lemon dish soap 😂 Maybe there's something wrong with my nose or possibly my brain lol either way I don't like that scent. At this point I avoid Peach and Lily products.
I literally came on here for this exact thing today!!
You *can* use w/ exfoliatiants ( *mild* acid), Vit C *derivative*
Thanks, loved the comparison ❤
I love copper peptides. I use my biossance one every other day. Alternative with the dark spot serum. It’s expensive but I do feel getting almost two ounces it’s not too much more per ounce.
Hi, could you explain why you live it? Do you see any change in wrinkles or fine lines? Skin texture or eveness ?
Please review the Glow recipe peptide pomegranate serum
I've been using the copper peptide serum for about 2yrs and I never knew u couldn't mix with certain other serums
Dies it cut down effectiveness if u do?
Yeah it does. I did that at first too. Depending on what specifically. I realized it wasn’t just about too many actives being harsh, but also effectiveness. But I read somewhere you can wait 30 minutes or more in between. I just do different things for different needs or days. Vitamin C plus TO Buffet w Copper can cause a yellow residue which it did for me around the edges of my face. And then any acids + Buffet Copper or Retinol + actives will loose their effectiveness unless u wait.
I wonder if the P&L has some kind of light filter in the bottle? I know that Now has bottles that are clear, but the plastic has a filter in it that doesn't allow light damage. Don't know if they can do that with glass.
Do you know the ph balance of Peach & Lily?
Thank you so much for this!!❤
Great video!!!thanks !! Anyone have had any facial hair growth? That's the only thing I am afraid ? Any taughts on this?
I just found and started using the Ultra Lift DMAC Concentrated Serum with Copper peptides and Resveratrol by Derma E. I think I paid $26 on Amazon. Penn Smith talked about it. Didn't know if you had heard anything about it.
Me too and I really like it so far. I bought it at Sprouts.
NIOD sells pumps for $2.50. Allegedly the pumps are compatible with 30ml The Ordinary bottles.
Wish you'd have short & *long* term affects
Thank you Sarah ❤
Patiently waiting for Geek & Gorgeous to drop their peptide treatment
Ooohh that's so sneaky if P&L are using eggplant to color the product rather than use more copper peptide!
I have read the intensity of the CP color is pH dependent. But yes still tricky.
hmm… I’m not liking the idea of copper peptides having issues with vitamin C and I use Tretinoin. It’s a real consideration for me to mull over.
I don't know that all those extra ingredients are good in P&L
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your face looks more natural here for some reason
*To me* TO Cu Peptide smells like a metal, not vinegar.
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I am SO relieved they didn’t put fragrance in this. This brand is decent but sometimes they use fragrance. Like in their copper peptide moisturizer which smells like bergamot. This serum is actually really nice ingredients wise. TONS of hydrating ingredients too (several mushroom extracts, several forms of HA, apple lentil watermelon complex, peptides). Copper peptides is high up on the ingredients too. Not sure if they disclosed the %?