I’ve been using the Buffet with copper peptides by the ordinary and I swear that stuff is magic. I’m in my 30s and it just makes my skin look so great. I ran out for a while and my skin started to look dull, and then I started to use it again and my skin was looking great again in a few days.
I just want to say that I appreciate the clinical info that is included because there are plenty of sources with simplified language. I love finding out from you two how to research this better
Hey hey!!! I just want to drop you two a big big thank you!!! About 3 weeks ago I found your channel, then started to use lactic acid, salicylic mask & some retinol, they worked so well on my skin 😭😭😭 my black heads are visibility gone, I’ve had them for my entire life since teen!!! My skin became so smooth and clear 😭😭😭❤️❤️Now in my 30s my skin feels the best in my entire life!!! The products I used in just three weeks, are working so well than all the high end products I used before🙏🙏🙏 I watched the skin care tips video from you two, really learnt which ingredient works for the things I want to target.. having a clear skin really makes me so confident… You two are real gems 💎 also your video makes me happy! 😊😊 thank you so much!!!
Would you be so kind to do a podcast for 65 and older women. Also give advise on affordable options that work. Thank you in advance. Love all the info you sent our way. Love the relaxed and funny way you bring the info.
I love the TO Buffet + Copper Peptides. I apply it in the evening and when I wake up the next morning my skin is so nice and plump looking. Plus it really helped me with hyperpigmentation from acne. I think it's a really nice addition to my usual skincare routine.
I can say from experience that Tretinoin was the only thing that made a huge difference in my skin at age 61. Until I added Copper Peptides. Stepped it up a few notches. Amazing stuff. I have only tried The Ordinary Buffet.
@@traceytrotter9934 Thank you for answering! Do you think it helps around the eyes? I do have fine lines there, and I know tretinoin is better for that but I’m nervous about causing dry eyes
@@CamilaSaurus No problem! I doubt it would do much but why not? I have a dry eye issue and Tretinoin doesn't affect it. Plus it is the only thing that really helps wrinkles. I use the Buffet under there too.
@@CamilaSaurus I would try the lowest dose of retinol for eye cream to avoid drying them out Because I really think retinol is one of the most effective for wrinkles
Thanks for introducing me to Biossance. I’ve ordered several products from them as a result…. and now the Doctorly bundle (which dupes some of my precious purchases, but that’s not a problem!)
Love you guys! I realize this is a sponsored video, but am surprised you didn't mention The Ordinary's "Buffet with Copper Peptides." I've used it for the past two years and think it's a great product. And, less than half the price of the Biossance product.
I am using The Ordinary's Buffet and their Squalene cleanser, Granactive Retinoid. etc., that are all very affordable. I won't be table to take advantage of the Docs' Biossance offer because of the cost.
I got a mini of the copper peptide Serum with a Sephora order recently and I am really liking it. I'm glad that you guys approved because now I feel like I can get some more!
I finally got around to starting a skincare regimen a few months ago. Had "The Buffet with copper peptides" on my wishlist. In the meantime, had gotten a little bottle of the Biossance one with my points at Sephora. I tend to sometimes be sensitive to random things and this turned out to be one of them? Unfortunately broke me out. I then went ahead and got the one from The Ordinary and thankfully haven't had any problems.
The Ordinary's formulations are awful and I wouldn't trust them with vitamin C, retinol, peptides or anything else that uses effort to keep active in a product. Their lactic acid is also useless and does nothing due to having too low an FAV from poor formulation. It literally does nothing. My advice is to steer clear.
That’s reassuring because my skin tends to be sensitive to stuff too. I got a peptide product from good molecule and it irritated my skin so I got rid of it
I use the ordinary product line. I haven't used the product they have with copper in it as it's not very friendly with other products. You have to understand this product line do you know what you can use to gather and what you can't. Rule thumb is retinol usually doesn't play well with antioxidants and direct acids. However, the key is to these conflicting products at opposite times of the day. I use niacinamide with zinc, Resveratrol antioxidant, sunscreen in the a.m. I use the buffet Serum, retinol in squalane, and they're moisturizer at night. Also understanding that water-based serums first and allowed to dry, apply water free serums next, then gels, then creams. You will know if you put them on out of order because you will have a pulling type of feel on your face. Anyway, I'll just wanted to talk about the ordinary product line. It's more potent than what you would buy in the drugstore but not as potent as what you would get in a dermatologist office; however, over time it will work.
please please please make a video on the different types of peptides and everything we should know about them and how to use them based on our skin goals. Id also love to know more about the skins microbiome! Tysm for these wonderful and informative vids
I absolutely love you guys! You’ve definitely saved me from spending money on things that don’t work and I was actually looking into copper peptides recently so perfect timing! ☺️💜
I see you comment on a lot of video I watch so I feel like I can trust your opinion somewhat lol. Do you still use the ordinary copper peptide serum? I’m thinking about buying it and trying it out, I am scared that it may break me out tho lol
You guys are awesome. Love your videos. They say copper peptides help with melasma and hyperpigmentation…how does this work when it counteracts kojic acid? I found azelaic acid, kojic acid and C E Ferulic to not help my melasma and make redness worse.
Love you info you provide! I tried to get into a demeratologist and it was going to a year!!!! So I turn to you expertise! So thank you for your transparency!!!!
I have read and heard so many reports that state that peptides are far too large to actually penetrate the skin. Do you know of any actual studies that have looked at whether or not any peptides can fit past the epidermis or do they even need to if they are able to send chemical signals which allow for the benefits to occur? Thank you so much for mentioning the Jargon that The Ordinary (and other companies) use to make peptides sound like prescription miracle drugs, as opposed to a topical solution.
I adore the Ordinary Buffet with copper peptides. I was making the mistake of using my granactive retinol 5% with squalline.( don't think I spelled that right ) I didn't know they cancel one another out. So I am now using buffet and copper serum in the AM and the retinoid in the evening. I am 37, I have had a little botox but never on the eye area. I am so so happy with the results. been using these products for 7 months and honestly I am blown away by how far science in skin care has come. I am such a nerd and love these video. Thanks for the tips! Also vitamin C and me have a love hate relationship! I often find I react badly to it and get stinging and little red raised bumps after use. Had to stop. I tend to stick with the ordinary as it's reliable, affordable etc. Does anyone have any other products that are the same but a different brand, or even better than the Ordinary, that won't bankrupt me? Great video, thanks. Huge fan from Scotland.
YES im so excited for this video, i saw the title and immediately clicked, been waiting for this video because im so confused with what products i can and cant use it with
Nice video, but it is unfortunate that it was sponsored by Biossance because there are much better Copper peptide products out there, such as NIOD's CAIS 1:1 and the Ordinary's Buffet + Copper Peptides. Penn. Smith. Skincare also has a wonderful review of Copper Peptides and she lists a number of key, effective Copper Peptide products.
This is an educational video on copper peptides and what their potential benefits are. No one is under the obligation to use copper peptides and if they do want to, they can use the Biossance version or other ones as you mentioned. We need to move away from the idea that sponsored content = bad. In order for channels like this to thrive, sponsorships, gifted PR, affiliate codes and viewership engagement are all important.
At the end of the day they need to make money to keep a channel running, I never take opinion of a sponsered product, just happy that the creator has an avenue for income.
I have personally used a few of those copper peptide products, and I disagree that they are “better”. The Biossance one is personally my favorite copper peptide serum I have ever used! I just love it!
So, can I make the conclusion from this video that it is totally fine to apply copper peptide before or after Tretinoin !!! Right? Could you please answer this; many people asked this question! Thanks 🌺🌺
Thank you for being so thorough AND entertaining! In future reviews, could you also cover the scent a product might have? I’m super sensitive to scents, even my eyes burn from them. Keep making content! I love it and it’s been so helpful for our family’s needs!
@@jessicablum4096 thanks! I went ahead and tried the cetaphil gentle cleanser and I had a very strong reaction to it. Couldn’t get the smell off me quick enough. I’ll try the other!
I found the Ordinary Buffet + Copper Peptides to be very smelly. If you are sensitive to smells, I'm not sure you could tolerate this product. Copper is a metal, so the product smells like metal and vinegar. I used the bottle, but went back to just the Buffet when it was gone. I didn't see enough of a difference to subject myself to the smell.
Thank you! WOW! What a steep discount! I want to switch to more eco friendly products. I love my skin. I currently use StriVectin, and have since it first came out and that’s a huge chunk of change, but when something is worth it, never skimp on your body! I am switching bcuz my liver is problematic. It’s so true that what you put on your face your body breaks down! Be careful and love yourself! Your skin is the shell to who you are, so take a few minutes to step outside yourself and learn to truly love your body and treat it with the best you can.
Love you guys. I'm an esthetician and I value your opinions. I like that you don't always agree on everything. You each have your favorite products and ingredients
This is off topic but how do you feel about all the Collagen powder supplements? Do they help in your opinion because I want to know if I'm wasting my money or not on this product.
Me six. They're so expensive where I live! I've just opened my second canister but I can't tell if it makes a difference because I've also switched skincare products during that time, so I don't know what to attribute the differences to.
Great video!! Very articulate + well spoken as well as easy to understand 😊 I’ve been using the Biossance Copper Peptide serum for a month-ish now and I’m super happy with it. Love the glass bottle too, I appreciate it so much when products come in glass!
Hey guys! 👋 it's been a while but I had to click this as iv been using the Ordinary Buffet tri copper peptide for about 2 to 3 weeks now, without my vit c, and I absolutely LOVE ❤ it! I may add my vitamin c back in at night if I have a night or 2 off my Tretinoin 0.1. Thanks guys! Your the best! Love Tia 💘
Perfect!!! Was looking for deals on Biossance AND wasn’t sure what I should buy and this BUNDLE is on point!!! Thank you so Much and Thanks to Biossance!!!
Such a good question. I've looked it up all over the place since I got a moisturizer with copper peptides last year, and it seems they don't play well with others at all. I use tret at night, copper peptide moisturizer in the morning. Great results as far as skin texture so far, only started using it daily about a month ago.
Skinlyte has a soap that is loaded not only with collagen but also keratin peptides. It is fast absorbed because it has an enhanced binding enhancement technology which produces a water molecule that hydrates skin and hair. It repairs, rebuilds and strengthens hair and skin. I got it at Amazon and I am impressed with new benefits I discover every time I use it. I noticed many improvements in my hair, skin and nails. What I like best about it is that it's all natural and without harmful chemicals such as synthetic dyes, fragrance, SLS or preservatives.
Thank you for the content appreciate y’all so much, and how your subject is always broken down into every day language. Is this the only copper peptide you like or will you be doing a deep dive on your top three favs, or maybe your favorite skin care combinations to include a copper peptide products?
I use the Ordinary copper peptides, is great. But don't listen to what they tell you not to use. You can use Vit C with retinol. Can't use Vit C with peptides. Other than that, you can use it wit ceramides, antioxidants or with retinol. Just no Vit C with peptides.
PLEASE do a video on these at home laser devices I would loooove to see you guys do that! New sub here, love all this advice you guys are giving out for free, it’s amazing ❤️
Thank you to my favorite Derm doctors! I ordered the recommended trio. Got an additional 25%. I added the hand cream as well. Please open an office in Las Vegas, NV.
Would not use the Ordinary Copper Peptides with vitamin C. My skin is super resilient, opposite of sensitive, have never reacted to anything lol. Mixed these two and looked like I had the biggest sunburn in the world. Reaction lasted a day. Just my experience.
I was so proud of myself for deciding to go against the copper tripeptide trend & now you’ve turned me around. I tried the The Ordinary serum & wasn’t impressed. Now I’m super intrigued by the Biossance. Grrrr. The only things you mentioned not using copper with is Vit C and Kojic acid. What about retinol and AHA acids? TO says no but Deciem has all kinds of contradictions for several products but I’m inclined to think that it’s either their formulations and/or they are just super cautious. They also say not to use with “strong” antioxidants (I have no idea what that means) but you said it is in of itself an antioxidant. Thoughts?
My moisturizer has my ceramides in them+ I add Some Dr.Jart+ Ceramidin skin barrier cream. FYI, I am DRY, dry skin ,hair ,humor,you get it. I believe when your skin loves the regimen it's getting it can show it positively❣️
Amazing video! Licensed Esthetician here 👋🏼 and I definitely have to vouch for Neova Skin Care products when it comes to the copper peptides. I always recommend their products when talking copper peptides with my clients 👍🏼
Im shocked that there was no discussion on the delicacy of these peptides. 10:37 the guys banging it on the table. I mean ok, probably not that bad realistifcally especially compared to shaking it but people peptides are fragile and even more after being mixed with a solution. And they should always be stored in the fridge after being mixed (freezer before). The stability of GHK-Cu (copper tripeptide-1) in solution at room temperature can vary depending on several factors, including the composition of the solution, the concentration of GHK-Cu, the presence of other ingredients or contaminants, and the specific storage conditions (such as light exposure and container material). GHK-Cu is a complex of the peptide GHK (glycyl-L-histidyl-L-lysine) and copper ions. GHK-Cu, or copper tripeptide-1, is generally considered to be moderately stable, but like many peptides, its stability can be influenced by various factors. The stability of GHK-Cu is crucial in its effectiveness, especially in biomedical and cosmetic applications where it is valued for its skin regeneration, wound healing, and anti-aging properties. Factors influencing the stability of GHK-Cu include: pH Levels: The stability of GHK-Cu can be affected by the pH of the solution it is in. It tends to be more stable in neutral to slightly acidic pH levels. Temperature: Higher temperatures can lead to faster degradation of peptides, including GHK-Cu. Therefore, it is often recommended to store GHK-Cu solutions in a cool environment, preferably refrigerated, to maintain their stability. Light and Oxygen Exposure: Exposure to light, particularly UV light, and oxygen can lead to oxidation and degradation of peptides. GHK-Cu solutions should be stored in airtight containers that are opaque or light-resistant to minimize this risk. Concentration and Formulation: The concentration of GHK-Cu and the presence of other ingredients in a formulation can also affect its stability. Formulators need to consider interactions with other components of the product. Container Material: The material of the container in which GHK-Cu is stored can influence its stability. Containers that do not react with copper or the peptide, such as glass or certain plastics, are preferable. Handling and Storage: Proper handling and storage are crucial for maintaining the stability of GHK-Cu. This includes minimizing exposure to air, light, and heat, and using clean, non-reactive equipment. In practical terms, these factors mean that GHK-Cu, when used in cosmetic or pharmaceutical products, often requires careful formulation and packaging to ensure its stability and efficacy over the lifespan of the product. Manufacturers typically provide specific storage instructions and shelf life information based on their formulation and testing. The instructions and box should 100% have this highlighted.
Thanks so much for this informative video. In a previous video, Dr. Maxfield mentioned that he has some hesitation with the copper in copper peptides because it could cause an increase in hyperpigmentation. Are these studies suggesting that the copper in these products will not cause hyperpigmentation for those at risk for hyperpigmentation/melasma?
I thought we addressed this in the video but it must have gotten cut in post-production! There’s no evidence that it has ever done that but, theoretically, it’s possible! Great thinking, we thought the same thing
Ordered the trio yesterday, thanks for the insight on these products! I'm a big fan of the probiotic gel moisturizer and the Vitamin C Squalane rose oil.
I really appreciate this information. The NIOD copper peptide solution is expensive and I have only been using it once a week when I needle cosmetically because I’ve read it’s a larger molecule. The other issue has been trying to find a spot in my routine. Morning is tough because of vitamin c and evening doesn’t work because of tretinoin. Can I use copper peptides with vitamin c derivatives?
I personally use it as the very first step of my regime followed by hyaluronic acid (again from NIOD), then vitamin A + vitamin C (in areas with hyperpigmentation only) my q10 serum and moisturiser etc but make sure I allow a good minute before the next application. Have been using it for years and I am very happy with the results, NIOD only recommends against the use of vitamin C together with the 1% version (CAIL), but CAIS3 is ok to combine
I definitely do need anymore skin care stuff because I have more than I’ll ever need but of course I’ll spend another $200+ on Biossance. Thanks doctors.
I think peptides are great, I’m one of those people that tries EVERYTHING, and stares at their skin 2 millimeters away from the mirror to see EVERY bit of texture. Honestly, I saw no improvement with copper peptides and I used them for a couple of years. I really really wanted to love them but they just didn’t do anything for collagen production. I will say my skin healed faster from pimples/scratches etc. but nothing else really. I stick to my matrixyl peptides.
I'm very fond of my C E Ferulic in the morning and use retinol at night. If I use this Biossance copper peptide serum in the morning, when do you suggest I use the C E Ferulic?
love your videos and all the great info you provide! I've noticed i've always had to adjust the volume when I watch your videos. I think having mics attached to your shirts would improve audio quality. i don't wanna miss any bit of info!!!
I have a question regarding Copper Peptides Serum and EGF Serum. I have read where Copper Peptides should not be used with Retinal, AHA and Vitamin C, but EGF Serum can be used with Retinal. My question is can Copper Peptides Serum and EGF Serum can be used together and layered on your skin. If so, which product would I apply first. (For reference, I have the NIOD - Copper Amino Isolate Serum 3 1:1 (CAIS3) and the Bradceuticals Gold Mesenchymal Stem Cell Serum. Thank you!
Love you guys, you are so funny! You bring a wealth of great information to help us have great skin. Over the years I have purchased so many products that didn’t work and a waste of money. I love skincare products that come in glass bottles, especially brown bottles. I reuse them for my DIY mixes.
I think so. At night - Apply your vitamin C first, since it has the lower pH of the two. Then, wait half an hour before you apply your retinol. Incorporating the waiting period allows your skin's pH to return to normal, so each ingredient can work at its intended pH.
i just bought the 15% niacimide and 1% zinc serum and 0.5% retinol from your "best of ordinary" video - and OMG - MY First application and i can feel the difference straight away! thank you so much!
Thank you so much for the informative Video!! Definitely learned a lot from it! Still wondering whether Copper Peptides can be used with a retinoid tho.
Can you guys give a real breakdown on what PRP facials can really do based on science and your own experiences? It's hard to get legit reviews on "vampire facials" on TH-cam based on real studies from doctors. Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you guys! 😊 just ordered the favs package. I've wanted to try biossance for over a year and now I finally can. Also appreciate all the thought and attention you guve to the topics and feedback from the viewers.
hi dr. shah. =) you said you love the eye cream on your eye lids, did you mean under your eyes because that's where you applied it or can i use this eye cream actually ON my eye LIDS? i would be SO HAPPY to find something i can use on my actual lids! i hope you are able to see this question and answer! thanks for the super informative video guys!
I’ve been using the Buffet with copper peptides by the ordinary and I swear that stuff is magic. I’m in my 30s and it just makes my skin look so great. I ran out for a while and my skin started to look dull, and then I started to use it again and my skin was looking great again in a few days.
Where do you buy it?
@@DominusTecum0917Sephora
@@DominusTecum0917it’s sold at your local snags stations everywhere
Thank you guys for actually healing my skin and not just curing my acne.
I just want to say that I appreciate the clinical info that is included because there are plenty of sources with simplified language. I love finding out from you two how to research this better
Hey hey!!! I just want to drop you two a big big thank you!!! About 3 weeks ago I found your channel, then started to use lactic acid, salicylic mask & some retinol, they worked so well on my skin 😭😭😭 my black heads are visibility gone, I’ve had them for my entire life since teen!!! My skin became so smooth and clear 😭😭😭❤️❤️Now in my 30s my skin feels the best in my entire life!!! The products I used in just three weeks, are working so well than all the high end products I used before🙏🙏🙏 I watched the skin care tips video from you two, really learnt which ingredient works for the things I want to target.. having a clear skin really makes me so confident… You two are real gems 💎 also your video makes me happy! 😊😊 thank you so much!!!
What’s the name of the mask that you use?
Yes, would love to know which products you use too. Thanks!!
Same!!
I found this channel 2 years before... and these two guys are gem💎❤✌ muthaanu
Would you be so kind to do a podcast for 65 and older women. Also give advise on affordable options that work. Thank you in advance.
Love all the info you sent our way. Love the relaxed and funny way you bring the info.
Aquaphor at night
I love the TO Buffet + Copper Peptides. I apply it in the evening and when I wake up the next morning my skin is so nice and plump looking. Plus it really helped me with hyperpigmentation from acne. I think it's a really nice addition to my usual skincare routine.
Yes! I love that product!!! ❤️
That and the one by Deceim have truly helped my acne!
i love it too! And very reasonably priced - of course from The Ordinary!
I can't find it anywhere and I ran out :(((
It’s the only product since using tretinoin that has made a huge difference! Helps with post acne wound healing and gives my skin such a poppy glow!
I can say from experience that Tretinoin was the only thing that made a huge difference in my skin at age 61. Until I added Copper Peptides. Stepped it up a few notches. Amazing stuff. I have only tried The Ordinary Buffet.
What did copper peptides do for you?
@@CamilaSaurusImproved texture and smooth appearance of my skin. My wrinkles are too deep to make much of a difference. :)
@@traceytrotter9934 Thank you for answering! Do you think it helps around the eyes? I do have fine lines there, and I know tretinoin is better for that but I’m nervous about causing dry eyes
@@CamilaSaurus No problem! I doubt it would do much but why not? I have a dry eye issue and Tretinoin doesn't affect it. Plus it is the only thing that really helps wrinkles. I use the Buffet under there too.
@@CamilaSaurus I would try the lowest dose of retinol for eye cream to avoid drying them out Because I really think retinol is one of the most effective for wrinkles
Thanks for introducing me to Biossance. I’ve ordered several products from them as a result…. and now the Doctorly bundle (which dupes some of my precious purchases, but that’s not a problem!)
The way they look at each other 😍
Love you guys! I realize this is a sponsored video, but am surprised you didn't mention The Ordinary's "Buffet with Copper Peptides." I've used it for the past two years and think it's a great product. And, less than half the price of the Biossance product.
That's why I don't like sponsored videos. I know You Tubers want to make money but sponsored videos are basically just commercials.
Or NOID’s CAIS which has a lot of study behind it
I am using The Ordinary's Buffet and their Squalene cleanser, Granactive Retinoid. etc., that are all very affordable. I won't be table to take advantage of the Docs' Biossance offer because of the cost.
@@lisamarielund6292 good products but very pricey
Plantinum Skin care has several copper products. They are very concentrated so just a small dab
I got a mini of the copper peptide Serum with a Sephora order recently and I am really liking it. I'm glad that you guys approved because now I feel like I can get some more!
Thanks for Biossance recommendations! Love their products… and they are so very generous with the samples!
I finally got around to starting a skincare regimen a few months ago. Had "The Buffet with copper peptides" on my wishlist. In the meantime, had gotten a little bottle of the Biossance one with my points at Sephora. I tend to sometimes be sensitive to random things and this turned out to be one of them? Unfortunately broke me out. I then went ahead and got the one from The Ordinary and thankfully haven't had any problems.
The Ordinary's formulations are awful and I wouldn't trust them with vitamin C, retinol, peptides or anything else that uses effort to keep active in a product. Their lactic acid is also useless and does nothing due to having too low an FAV from poor formulation. It literally does nothing. My advice is to steer clear.
That’s reassuring because my skin tends to be sensitive to stuff too. I got a peptide product from good molecule and it irritated my skin so I got rid of it
That's because Sephora is a crappy company when it comes to clean products
@@ashlynnbarber5433 "Clean" products are a scam. No product is "clean". This word means nothing.
I love the Buffett from the ordinary. Use it in replacement of my vit c.
I genuinely love the BIOSSANCE. I use it daily, AM and PM.
Some say don't use copper peptides in the same routine as tretinoin but others say it's ok if you don't experience irritation. What say you?
No irritation but the retinoic acid would likely destroy the peptides.
watch the video
I use the ordinary product line. I haven't used the product they have with copper in it as it's not very friendly with other products. You have to understand this product line do you know what you can use to gather and what you can't. Rule thumb is retinol usually doesn't play well with antioxidants and direct acids. However, the key is to these conflicting products at opposite times of the day. I use niacinamide with zinc, Resveratrol antioxidant, sunscreen in the a.m. I use the buffet Serum, retinol in squalane, and they're moisturizer at night. Also understanding that water-based serums first and allowed to dry, apply water free serums next, then gels, then creams. You will know if you put them on out of order because you will have a pulling type of feel on your face. Anyway, I'll just wanted to talk about the ordinary product line. It's more potent than what you would buy in the drugstore but not as potent as what you would get in a dermatologist office; however, over time it will work.
please please please make a video on the different types of peptides and everything we should know about them and how to use them based on our skin goals. Id also love to know more about the skins microbiome! Tysm for these wonderful and informative vids
I absolutely love you guys! You’ve definitely saved me from spending money on things that don’t work and I was actually looking into copper peptides recently so perfect timing! ☺️💜
I feel the same! Also they are so so handsome.hehe
I see you comment on a lot of video I watch so I feel like I can trust your opinion somewhat lol. Do you still use the ordinary copper peptide serum? I’m thinking about buying it and trying it out, I am scared that it may break me out tho lol
You guys are awesome. Love your videos. They say copper peptides help with melasma and hyperpigmentation…how does this work when it counteracts kojic acid? I found azelaic acid, kojic acid and C E Ferulic to not help my melasma and make redness worse.
They don’t care about helping you. They care about profit. It’s not ethical WHATSOEVER for them to be doing these sponsored brand videos.
@@Na0ansthank you. Shilling products should be a conflict of interest.
I'm a licensed Skin Care Specialist/Instructor, and I very much appreciate learning from you guys!!!
Vitamin C would be better to apply in the morning as it helps protect against sun damage. GHK-CU at night for building collagen
I find vit c makes my skin xtra sensitive to the sun so don’t use it
Love you info you provide! I tried to get into a demeratologist and it was going to a year!!!! So I turn to you expertise! So thank you for your transparency!!!!
So where/how would I fit copper peptides in my routine if I’m already using vit c every morning and retinol every night? 🤷🏼♀️
exactly this!
I think it gets overwhelming there’s too many things to apply im sure it can’t be good for the skin using so many , simple is best i find
Night= vitamin c then wait thirty minutes and apply retinol.
Morning=niacinimide then copper peptides
I have read and heard so many reports that state that peptides are far too large to actually penetrate the skin. Do you know of any actual studies that have looked at whether or not any peptides can fit past the epidermis or do they even need to if they are able to send chemical signals which allow for the benefits to occur? Thank you so much for mentioning the Jargon that The Ordinary (and other companies) use to make peptides sound like prescription miracle drugs, as opposed to a topical solution.
I adore the Ordinary Buffet with copper peptides. I was making the mistake of using my granactive retinol 5% with squalline.( don't think I spelled that right ) I didn't know they cancel one another out. So I am now using buffet and copper serum in the AM and the retinoid in the evening. I am 37, I have had a little botox but never on the eye area. I am so so happy with the results. been using these products for 7 months and honestly I am blown away by how far science in skin care has come. I am such a nerd and love these video. Thanks for the tips! Also vitamin C and me have a love hate relationship! I often find I react badly to it and get stinging and little red raised bumps after use. Had to stop. I tend to stick with the ordinary as it's reliable, affordable etc. Does anyone have any other products that are the same but a different brand, or even better than the Ordinary, that won't bankrupt me? Great video, thanks. Huge fan from Scotland.
good molecules is a similar brand as well as inkey list
Which one is this?
I love how the light reflects on the wall, is very peaceful. Thanks for clarifying this very confusing topic.
A+ to Dr. Maxfield’s barber! Fade is lookin’ fresh buddy!
Haha was goin to comment aswell on this, checked to see if anyone else noticed! Love ti
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I think Dr Shaw has much more going on in all aspects, I like smart well spoken guys. SHAW CARRIES THE OTHER ONE THAT LOVES HIMSELF.
YES im so excited for this video, i saw the title and immediately clicked, been waiting for this video because im so confused with what products i can and cant use it with
Nice video, but it is unfortunate that it was sponsored by Biossance because there are much better Copper peptide products out there, such as NIOD's CAIS 1:1 and the Ordinary's Buffet + Copper Peptides. Penn. Smith. Skincare also has a wonderful review of Copper Peptides and she lists a number of key, effective Copper Peptide products.
Linda Bruce -- Thanks so much for posting that. Always prefer to hear from "real" folks!
This is an educational video on copper peptides and what their potential benefits are. No one is under the obligation to use copper peptides and if they do want to, they can use the Biossance version or other ones as you mentioned. We need to move away from the idea that sponsored content = bad. In order for channels like this to thrive, sponsorships, gifted PR, affiliate codes and viewership engagement are all important.
At the end of the day they need to make money to keep a channel running, I never take opinion of a sponsered product, just happy that the creator has an avenue for income.
I have personally used a few of those copper peptide products, and I disagree that they are “better”. The Biossance one is personally my favorite copper peptide serum I have ever used! I just love it!
@@cv7958 agree with you, it's an excellent video, very educational, and you don't necessarily have to follow all the products they recommend.
It is great to see you back! I’ve missed your videos. I just ordered the bundle. Can’t wait to try it.
Thank you! Hope to see you soon!
So, can I make the conclusion from this video that it is totally fine to apply copper peptide before or after Tretinoin !!! Right? Could you please answer this; many people asked this question! Thanks 🌺🌺
I enjoy not only the great product info and use but the positive energy that you both have. Thank you ❤
They are both super easy on the eyes too, don't you think!
Can you use it in your Night routine if you use a Retinol? Thanks for the information.
Thank you for being so thorough AND entertaining!
In future reviews, could you also cover the scent a product might have? I’m super sensitive to scents, even my eyes burn from them.
Keep making content! I love it and it’s been so helpful for our family’s needs!
I'm also sensitive to scents! Mostly they cause headaches, but sometimes the eyes get in on the action, too.
CerVe and Cetaphil, cheap and no fragrance
@@jessicablum4096 thanks! I went ahead and tried the cetaphil gentle cleanser and I had a very strong reaction to it. Couldn’t get the smell off me quick enough. I’ll try the other!
I found the Ordinary Buffet + Copper Peptides to be very smelly. If you are sensitive to smells, I'm not sure you could tolerate this product. Copper is a metal, so the product smells like metal and vinegar. I used the bottle, but went back to just the Buffet when it was gone. I didn't see enough of a difference to subject myself to the smell.
I just love the way Dr maxfield looks at Mr shah, so adoringly 😊❤
Can the copper peptides be used in the same routine with azelaic acid,?
Thank you! WOW! What a steep discount!
I want to switch to more eco friendly products. I love my skin. I currently use StriVectin, and have since it first came out and that’s a huge chunk of change, but when something is worth it, never skimp on your body!
I am switching bcuz my liver is problematic.
It’s so true that what you put on your face your body breaks down!
Be careful and love yourself!
Your skin is the shell to who you are, so take a few minutes to step outside yourself and learn to truly love your body and treat it with the best you can.
Thanks Docs. Just ordered your trio. Signed on as a Crew member and got an additional 30% off your low price. Score
Waitttt whaaat! Extra 30% off? I’m gonna pin this! Oh and come back to let us know if you like the products
Crew member? Where?
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@@Doctorly I just wanted to order this as well but there’s a $50 shipping fee to Switzerland 😭😭😭 please helppp
Yay! As an optometrist, thanks for helping to end the fear of things rolling behind your eyes, like contact lenses! Great video as always! 💙
Do people really think that?
@@jamiehorwitz1227 as a retired ophthalmic technician yes they do!
@@jamiehorwitz1227 all the time! You’d be surprised!
@@judithnicholson2394 I can definitely say I have some weird phobias (bird’s), but I’ve never even considered something falling behind my eyeball.
@@adriennef7219 they do go above the eye though. Mine got stuck and the Dr had to remove it.
Love you guys. I'm an esthetician and I value your opinions. I like that you don't always agree on everything. You each have your favorite products and ingredients
Thank you for reviewing this. The woman at Sephora was pushing this Biossance product on me. So I sampled it and then I found that I really liked it.
This is off topic but how do you feel about all the Collagen powder supplements? Do they help in your opinion because I want to know if I'm wasting my money or not on this product.
Me too
Me three
Me four
Me five
Me six. They're so expensive where I live! I've just opened my second canister but I can't tell if it makes a difference because I've also switched skincare products during that time, so I don't know what to attribute the differences to.
How would you add copper peptides to this rosacea routine:
Morning: Ivermectin 1%, azelaic acid
Evening: Tretinoin
Always excited when you upload videos!
Could you do a video talking about cystic acne? I feel like I can never find consistent information.
Thank you!
Great video!! Very articulate + well spoken as well as easy to understand 😊
I’ve been using the Biossance Copper Peptide serum for a month-ish now and I’m super happy with it. Love the glass bottle too, I appreciate it so much when products come in glass!
Do you use a moisturizer after using the serum?
Hey guys! 👋 it's been a while but I had to click this as iv been using the Ordinary Buffet tri copper peptide for about 2 to 3 weeks now, without my vit c, and I absolutely LOVE ❤ it!
I may add my vitamin c back in at night if I have a night or 2 off my Tretinoin 0.1.
Thanks guys! Your the best!
Love Tia 💘
Perfect!!! Was looking for deals on Biossance AND wasn’t sure what I should buy and this BUNDLE is on point!!! Thank you so Much and Thanks to Biossance!!!
Yess Sephora’s sale starts on the 1st!
I enjoy how completely honest and real you guys are!!! 'We do it to get you to click!!!' Thank you for being completely transparent!!
Please do a video indicating a skincare regimen for rosacea. Thank you so much 💕
Thoughts on The Ordinary copper peptide serum?
You guys are the best duo so question ... Niacinamide or Multipeptide serum ? or both
Excellent info. So if you had to choose between vitamin c and copper peptides, which would you go with?
Peptide
I use their products and I just love them… thank you for all you do❤❤
You two are so fun. Thank you for many smiles and all of the skincare knowledge you share with us. Much love and happiness always 💙
So, thank you for the education. What is a good product to use?
Could copper peptides be used in the pm before or after trentinoin?
Such a good question. I've looked it up all over the place since I got a moisturizer with copper peptides last year, and it seems they don't play well with others at all. I use tret at night, copper peptide moisturizer in the morning. Great results as far as skin texture so far, only started using it daily about a month ago.
Skinlyte has a soap that is loaded not only with collagen but also keratin peptides. It is fast absorbed because it has an enhanced binding enhancement technology which produces a water molecule that hydrates skin and hair. It repairs, rebuilds and strengthens hair and skin. I got it at Amazon and I am impressed with new benefits I discover every time I use it. I noticed many improvements in my hair, skin and nails. What I like best about it is that it's all natural and without harmful chemicals such as synthetic dyes, fragrance, SLS or preservatives.
Great video! I’m really curious to see if you two had an opinion on CoQ10 in skincare ingredients.
yes! great question - I've recently seen this now in skincare and am curious!
Ubiquonal??
Can copper peptides go with Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate & 3-O Ethyl Ascorbic Acid ?
Dear Doctor,
Dose peptide or copper peptide can use the same time with Retinaldehyde?
A lot of people don't understand that you CAN use Vit.C derivative. I like THD. Also, discovered SAP can help with acne.
Thank you for the content appreciate y’all so much, and how your subject is always broken down into every day language. Is this the only copper peptide you like or will you be doing a deep dive on your top three favs, or maybe your favorite skin care combinations to include a copper peptide products?
I use the Ordinary copper peptides, is great. But don't listen to what they tell you not to use. You can use Vit C with retinol. Can't use Vit C with peptides. Other than that, you can use it wit ceramides, antioxidants or with retinol. Just no Vit C with peptides.
Love this. 🙏🏼
PLEASE do a video on these at home laser devices I would loooove to see you guys do that! New sub here, love all this advice you guys are giving out for free, it’s amazing ❤️
Also light therapy at home devies
You guys are so wonderful to my soul. I love watching you try the products. It's pure joy.
Thank you to my favorite Derm doctors! I ordered the recommended trio. Got an additional 25%. I added the hand cream as well. Please open an office in Las Vegas, NV.
Yes, than come to AZ, Scottsdale would love you.
Would not use the Ordinary Copper Peptides with vitamin C. My skin is super resilient, opposite of sensitive, have never reacted to anything lol. Mixed these two and looked like I had the biggest sunburn in the world. Reaction lasted a day. Just my experience.
I was so proud of myself for deciding to go against the copper tripeptide trend & now you’ve turned me around. I tried the The Ordinary serum & wasn’t impressed. Now I’m super intrigued by the Biossance. Grrrr.
The only things you mentioned not using copper with is Vit C and Kojic acid. What about retinol and AHA acids? TO says no but Deciem has all kinds of contradictions for several products but I’m inclined to think that it’s either their formulations and/or they are just super cautious. They also say not to use with “strong” antioxidants (I have no idea what that means) but you said it is in of itself an antioxidant. Thoughts?
My moisturizer has my ceramides in them+ I add Some Dr.Jart+ Ceramidin skin barrier cream. FYI, I am DRY, dry skin ,hair ,humor,you get it. I believe when your skin loves the regimen it's getting it can show it positively❣️
Amazing video! Licensed Esthetician here 👋🏼 and I definitely have to vouch for Neova Skin Care products when it comes to the copper peptides. I always recommend their products when talking copper peptides with my clients 👍🏼
I just received this free from my job. Havent tried it yet but great timing on the review! Thank you Drs!!!
You make the most educational videos on skincare! ❤ Please can you tell us more about melasma and how to get rid of it.
Im shocked that there was no discussion on the delicacy of these peptides. 10:37 the guys banging it on the table. I mean ok, probably not that bad realistifcally especially compared to shaking it but people peptides are fragile and even more after being mixed with a solution.
And they should always be stored in the fridge after being mixed (freezer before).
The stability of GHK-Cu (copper tripeptide-1) in solution at room temperature can vary depending on several factors, including the composition of the solution, the concentration of GHK-Cu, the presence of other ingredients or contaminants, and the specific storage conditions (such as light exposure and container material). GHK-Cu is a complex of the peptide GHK (glycyl-L-histidyl-L-lysine) and copper ions.
GHK-Cu, or copper tripeptide-1, is generally considered to be moderately stable, but like many peptides,
its stability can be influenced by various factors. The stability of GHK-Cu is crucial in its effectiveness, especially in biomedical and cosmetic applications where it is valued for its skin regeneration, wound healing, and anti-aging properties.
Factors influencing the stability of GHK-Cu include:
pH Levels: The stability of GHK-Cu can be affected by the pH of the solution it is in. It tends to be more stable in neutral to slightly acidic pH levels.
Temperature: Higher temperatures can lead to faster degradation of peptides, including GHK-Cu. Therefore, it is often recommended to store GHK-Cu solutions in a cool environment, preferably refrigerated, to maintain their stability.
Light and Oxygen Exposure:
Exposure to light, particularly UV light, and oxygen can lead to oxidation and degradation of peptides. GHK-Cu solutions should be stored in airtight containers that are opaque or light-resistant to minimize this risk.
Concentration and Formulation:
The concentration of GHK-Cu and the presence of other ingredients in a formulation can also affect its stability. Formulators need to consider interactions with other components of the product.
Container Material:
The material of the container in which GHK-Cu is stored can influence its stability. Containers that do not react with copper or the peptide, such as glass or certain plastics, are preferable.
Handling and Storage:
Proper handling and storage are crucial for maintaining the stability of GHK-Cu. This includes minimizing exposure to air, light, and heat, and using clean, non-reactive equipment.
In practical terms, these factors mean that GHK-Cu, when used in cosmetic or pharmaceutical products, often requires careful formulation and packaging to ensure its stability and efficacy over the lifespan of the product. Manufacturers typically provide specific storage instructions and shelf life information based on their formulation and testing.
The instructions and box should 100% have this highlighted.
You guys rock ! & it definitely helps that you 2 are massive eye candy 😍
IKR? Sweethearts the 2 of them 😊
They are so cute
Would this be safe around the eyes? :) Looking for an alternative to Retinol for eye wrinkles.
Thanks so much for this informative video. In a previous video, Dr. Maxfield mentioned that he has some hesitation with the copper in copper peptides because it could cause an increase in hyperpigmentation. Are these studies suggesting that the copper in these products will not cause hyperpigmentation for those at risk for hyperpigmentation/melasma?
I need an answer to this too 😳
Question: if copper is a cofactor for tyrosinase, can that lead to more PIH on someone with a deeper skin tone and acne?
I thought we addressed this in the video but it must have gotten cut in post-production! There’s no evidence that it has ever done that but, theoretically, it’s possible! Great thinking, we thought the same thing
@@Doctorly Confusing as I've heard that cooper peptides are good for clearing hyperpigmentation?
Ordered the trio yesterday, thanks for the insight on these products! I'm a big fan of the probiotic gel moisturizer and the Vitamin C Squalane rose oil.
I loooove the biossance algae eye cream and lactic acid serum, as well as the vitamin C rosehip oil. Their products are divine.
I really appreciate this information. The NIOD copper peptide solution is expensive and I have only been using it once a week when I needle cosmetically because I’ve read it’s a larger molecule. The other issue has been trying to find a spot in my routine. Morning is tough because of vitamin c and evening doesn’t work because of tretinoin. Can I use copper peptides with vitamin c derivatives?
I have the same question, since my routine is like yours. Not sure how to use my NIOD copper peptide as well. 🤔
I personally use it as the very first step of my regime followed by hyaluronic acid (again from NIOD), then vitamin A + vitamin C (in areas with hyperpigmentation only) my q10 serum and moisturiser etc but make sure I allow a good minute before the next application. Have been using it for years and I am very happy with the results, NIOD only recommends against the use of vitamin C together with the 1% version (CAIL), but CAIS3 is ok to combine
I definitely do need anymore skin care stuff because I have more than I’ll ever need but of course I’ll spend another $200+ on Biossance. Thanks doctors.
Loren Pickart, the scientist who first isolated GHK-CU, has a skin care line based around the peptide.
Yaaaasssss the best ❤️👏
Love how you guys nerd out on the science!
I think peptides are great, I’m one of those people that tries EVERYTHING, and stares at their skin 2 millimeters away from the mirror to see EVERY bit of texture. Honestly, I saw no improvement with copper peptides and I used them for a couple of years. I really really wanted to love them but they just didn’t do anything for collagen production. I will say my skin healed faster from pimples/scratches etc. but nothing else really. I stick to my matrixyl peptides.
What do they matrixyl peptides do and which brand do you use if you don’t mind me asking?
@@lynntaylor-smith8451 they help build collagen, i get mine from Timeless.
I'm very fond of my C E Ferulic in the morning and use retinol at night. If I use this Biossance copper peptide serum in the morning, when do you suggest I use the C E Ferulic?
You guys should talk about growth factors next, another skin care topic that confuses me.
Yes! I've stopped myself using it due to negative info online.
love your videos and all the great info you provide! I've noticed i've always had to adjust the volume when I watch your videos. I think having mics attached to your shirts would improve audio quality. i don't wanna miss any bit of info!!!
Thank you for yet another incredibly informative and fun video… Would you guys be willing to speak about matrixyl and matrixyl 3000.?
How do you like the one from the ordinary?
Can you use copper tripeptides at night with your Retinol?
I have a question regarding Copper Peptides Serum and EGF Serum. I have read where Copper Peptides should not be used with Retinal, AHA and Vitamin C, but EGF Serum can be used with Retinal.
My question is can Copper Peptides Serum and EGF Serum can be used together and layered on your skin. If so, which product would I apply first. (For reference, I have the NIOD - Copper Amino Isolate Serum 3 1:1 (CAIS3) and the Bradceuticals Gold Mesenchymal Stem Cell Serum.
Thank you!
Love you guys, you are so funny! You bring a wealth of great information to help us have great skin. Over the years I have purchased so many products that didn’t work and a waste of money. I love skincare products that come in glass bottles, especially brown bottles. I reuse them for my DIY mixes.
Would you say this could be a replacement for vitamin C and moisturizer in the morning?
I think so. At night -
Apply your vitamin C first, since it has the lower pH of the two. Then, wait half an hour before you apply your retinol. Incorporating the waiting period allows your skin's pH to return to normal, so each ingredient can work at its intended pH.
I’d love to see a video on your favorite products with camellia sinensis!
i just bought the 15% niacimide and 1% zinc serum and 0.5% retinol from your "best of ordinary" video - and OMG - MY First application and i can feel the difference straight away!
thank you so much!
Thank you so much for the informative Video!! Definitely learned a lot from it! Still wondering whether Copper Peptides can be used with a retinoid tho.
Would supplementing with copper help with elastin and collagen in the skin?
Can you guys give a real breakdown on what PRP facials can really do based on science and your own experiences? It's hard to get legit reviews on "vampire facials" on TH-cam based on real studies from doctors. Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you guys! 😊 just ordered the favs package. I've wanted to try biossance for over a year and now I finally can. Also appreciate all the thought and attention you guve to the topics and feedback from the viewers.
Fun video! I've been using copper peptides for a while, fall in love with the blue! But it cannot be used together with tretinion or VC, correct?
hi dr. shah. =)
you said you love the eye cream on your eye lids, did you mean under your eyes because that's where you applied it or can i use this eye cream actually ON my eye LIDS? i would be SO HAPPY to find something i can use on my actual lids! i hope you are able to see this question and answer!
thanks for the super informative video guys!