I thought that was so thorough and wonderful I can’t wait to try some more serum‘s but I am really happy you reminded me to get up and do my nighttime routine and I love your videos. I can’t wait to explore more of the ordinary products right now I’m doing well just the Buffay, the caffeine serum and the moisturizing factors ✌️
Hey! Thank you!🥰 Just use the products that really target your skin concerns, and the simpler you can keep it, the better :) For how long have you been using those products? How is it going so far?
Hello Melissa I wanted to ask In night Hyaluronic acid then niacinamide Can I apply niacinamide right after I apply hyaluronic acid without giving hyaluronic a chance to dry In morning Bha then hyaluronic Can I apply hyaluronic right after I apply bha without letting bha dry Cause i Idont usually wait and directly apply the next acid so that it's applied on damp skin
Hey! :) Damp skin does not mean that there is still water or serum on the skin surface...this can actually cause more problems (like skincare pilling or sensitivity or even just give you an uncomfortable feeling)... Damp Skin refers to: After washing your face, use a towel and pat your skin dry to remove the remaining water drops from the skin surface. Your skin will remain damp for +/- 30min. Therefore, give your skin a moment to absorb each skincare product before moving on to the next step.
Wow! You’re looking absolutely stunningly gorgeous today!! 🌼😻🌸+😽👌💋(chef’s kiss!)👍 Super excited to see a video on peptides too!! Thank you 🙏 Happy July 👏👏👏 and have a blessed and marvellous weekend 🫶 best wishes from Sweden 🇸🇪
Hello Rosemary, I haven't seen you in a while, how are you doing? And once again, may I thank you so much for all your support! And the same goes for you. Thank you 🥰
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thank you for caring 🤗 There have been a little up and down but I’m holding on 🤷🏻♀️ But one good thing when things are tough, things that you cannot control anyway, is to have the routines like the longer walks with the dog, talking to God (if you believe), keep on exercising AND the skincare 🧖🏻♀️ To an onlooker it might sound so benign but sometimes that really makes all the difference! I’m glad to see you again! Lots of love and support! 🫶❣️🌸🌼
@@rosemary5005 Yes, we are all going through this at the moment; sometimes, I feel that there is an energy shift because of the tense situation. But, I think talking to someone helps a lot; that can also make a huge difference. Or generally having some purpose in life, do something good for someone else etc. 😃
Hi! Loved the video! For me to use it every day I need to alternate day and night routine so it should be something like this : Day 1 AM : vit C skinceuticals Day 1 PM : argereline ( just forehead) + buffet cooper Day 2 AM : argereline + buffet cooper Day 2 PM : tretinoin *in the eye area I use hialu C by LRP in the morning and Caffeine by TO in the evening Can it be? * I just wrote the ‘main’ product in each routine! I know I have to use cleanser, spf , moisturizer etc My main goal is fine lines , wrinkles, dullness! My skin is normal to dry but sensitive to a lot of products 😅 Thank you in advance
Hey! :) Overall your routine looks good. I would use Vitamin C in the PM and alternate with Tretinoin so that you can use Argireline and Buffet + Copper Peptides in the AM, daily. It just would simplify the routine in my view :)
Hi Melissa,so glad to saw your post.i need the advice so my routine skin care would be perfect as i would like to add buffet + copper peptide. Morning: Vitamin c products and alternate with glycolic acid Night: I will alternate with buffet + copper peptide with retinol. Is that alright? Thanks in advance.
Hey! :) What Vitamin C do you use? Yes, that's fine. Or you could do it like this: AM 1: Cleanser, Vitamin C and Sunscreen AM 2: Cleanser, Buffet + Copper Peptides and Sunscreen PM 1: Cleanser, Glycolic Acid and (optional) moisturizer PM 2: Cleanser, Retinol and (optional) moisturizer
Thank you so much for the reply. i use some whitening contains cleanser,then kielhs correction serum,then whitening contains moisturizer then sunscreen. you are the real "the best ever" beauty teacher i had met.you response fast and informative to all the the questions. Thanks again for your advices. Sending love:))
Hi I’m a beginner to skin care routine (35yrs) ..I have never used any actives …may I know if I can use copper peptide serum or should go with multi peptide for few months before upgrading to copper peptide.. Also how can I incorporate ordinary barrier support serum and snail mucin along with peptides. Thanks in advance 🙏
echnically, it doesn't matter, as it depends on your personal skin tolerance. You can use the one with copper peptides right away. However, these peptides are a bit controversial, meaning you will likely get the same results with the regular multi-peptide serum for a much cheaper price. So, from that perspective, it's the better choice. ;) The layering would go like this: Cleanser Snail mucin Multi-peptide serum Barrier support serum How to use The Ordinary Soothing & Barrier Support Serum th-cam.com/video/QzqnC5I0-fw/w-d-xo.html
Hellooo! I'm about to add the Buffet + Copper Peptides into my routine. I'm currently using Niacinamide + Zinc, Polyglutamic acid by The Inkey List, Retinol Granactive, an Elf cleanser balm and a Cerave Moisturiser. Do I need to take away a a hydrator if I want to push the Copper Peptides into a routine? There's two routines. A ) Elf cleanser Balm Niacinamide + Zinc Polyglutamic acid Cerave moisturiser B) Elf Cleanser Balm Niacinamide + Zinc Polyglutamic acid Granactive Retinol Cerave Moisturiser
Technically, no. Practically, it may not layer well. Therefore, I would suggest removing the Polyglutamic acid in the morning and alternating it with Buffet + Copper Peptides.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thank you so much. May I also ask whether the chemical peel is safe to use? I've become a little confused. Can you use the chemical peel on off days when you don't use the copper peptide? Say if you usually do a chemical peel every 1 or 2 weeks, will that affect the way the copper works?
@@melanieturquoise1111 Yes, that's fine. Just don't Buffet+Copper Peptide, as well as Granactive Retinoid, on the day you want to use your chemical peel :)
Hi Melissa 👋 Still the most confusing subject 😕 for me. I want to use buffet+copper peptides but I don't know when. As I have already told you, in the morning I use vitamine C 30% in silicone every day and in the evening granactive retinol 2% or glycolic acid. I still don't understand how to insert this new product in my routine. I think 🤔 I must stop using something of these products but which one? They are all very basics for my skin. (Combination skin, no irritation at all) 🙄💜❣🤩
Hello Κατερίνα, Yes, maybe my explanation wasn't that good last time. It is recommended not to use Buffet and Buffet Copper Peptides (or generally The Ordinary Peptides) with highly acidic products as the pH may be too low, making the peptides ineffective or less effective. But I think it isn't an issue as long as you do not use a lot of product or "mix" it. Still, if you want to be safe, it is best not to use it together. So as explained in the video, for you, it would be best to alternate daily. Monday Granactive Retinoid Tuesday Buffet Copper Peptides Wednesday Granactive Retinoid etc. Using the retinol/retinoid together with Buffet may "conflict" as both "tell" your skin cells to rebuild and become healthy. There is no research for this. So nobody really tested it. I did a little "study" on myself, and it was an issue, and I got terrible breakouts when combining these products 😕
😞 I'm sorry. I insist a lot.I am sure you're tired with my questions but if I don't understand something fully I just don't do it. Thank you so much for your patience 🙏 😘 ☺ ❤.
@@katerinamakri72 Ah, yes, that should work. But then you should not use buffet + copper peptides. So you need three evening routines for this. PM1: Clean Buffet + Copper Peptides PM2: Clean Glycolic Acid Toning Solution (rest you usually use, if you do) PM3: Clean Granactive Retinoid 2%
@@katerinamakri72 Haha, no, I like to help; otherwise, I wouldn't reply to my comments 🤪 It takes some time to understand it entirely, but if you constantly do it, you will get better and better.
So when are you aloud to incorporate the liquid exfoliants into your skincare regimen? I just started using the copper peptide serum but I just reordered Paula’s choice bha liquid exfoliant and was excited to use that on my skin again. So is there a specific time I could actually use the exfoliant?
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thanks so much for the response ❤️❤️ it’s hard to understand what is aloud to be paired together and all that but you’re a god sent for all this great information
Hi melissa, i use retinol squalane from the ordinary and cis de baha peptide serum. However, both of then have water consistent but I notice my peptide serum is thicker than retinol. Which one should be applied first?
Hey Melissa, I have Kojic acid serum, I do use copper peptide buffet in PM or AM, Will it affect my skin if I add this in another time when I am not applying copper peptide serum?
I have started using Buffet, Marein, and granactive Retinoid. In this video, you said Buffet does not focus on fine lines, wrinkles, elasticity, and firmness. But I need to focus on fine lines and also on wrinkles, so what extra serum should I need to add. Pls suggest.
Well, it is controversial and still not fully understood if it penetrates deeply enough to show effects on fine lines, wrinkles, elasticity, and firmness. However, the retinoid you are using should help you with that :) So, you have all the serums you need.
is there a toner you'd recommend using in the morning or serum before the moisturizer? i got told to add a toner but idk if i can put toner or serums over peptides
Can i use niacinamide and buffet on alternate days? Or do i have u use them daily to get the full benefits.m And should i apply hyaluronic acid before or after buffet or niacinamide.?
Well, nobody really knows that. But peptides are generally questionable because they may not penetrate deep enough to give you the benefits (long-term). So to see temporary benefits, I suggest using them daily. I mean, unless you do not tolerate it. And using Hyaluronic Acid along Buffet is also unnecessary as it already contains it. But you can layer these products in any order since they are all water-based. So the best advice I can give you is to test it! 😃
Hi melissa How are you dear looking really nice and fresh.. As I share with you many times my ordinary skincare routine but I have little problem. When I use my ordinary skincare products my face pilling after applying and face became a feel like after shaving bumps. But haven't hair at my face. means face not smooth and plump. Any suggestions plz
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thanks for reply. I share with you my current skincare routine... AM: after face wash i use Hyaluronic acid, ordinary moisturizer, then vitamin C SUSPENSION lastly Mineral Sunscreen everyday same routine. PM Rotien: Monday Lactic acid, Niacinamide, alpha Arbutin, moisturizer. Tuesday night: salicylic Acid, Niacinamide, Alpha Arbutin, Moisturizer. Wednesday: Buffet, Niacinamide, Alpha Arbutin, moisturizer. Thursday: Face wash Salicylic Acid mask, Niacinamide, Alpha Arbutin, Granactive Retinoid 5% Three nights same routine Is anything wrong?
Hmm...you are using so many skincare products... For how long have you been doing this routine? Since when do you experience those bumps? What are your skin concerns? How often do you exfoliate your skin per week? As I think you may be overdoing it, which then causes sensitivity. Or you may be reacting to a skincare product like Hyaluronic Acid...
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet my skin concerns first pigmentation and blackheads in nose uneven skin tone and dullness. I have dry combination skin. How i Exfoliate properly? And how I create properly skincare routine with these products? Thank you soo much for your help . God bless you
@@allfoodhomemade6211 Do you really have a blackhead problem or do you only seen them when looking closer into the mirror? What kind of pigmentation do you have? AM 1: - Cleanser - Niacinamide - Alpha Arbutin - (Optional) Moisturizer - Sunscreen (Optional) AM 2: - Cleanser - Vitamin C Suspension (only if you use sunscreen when having sun exposure) - (Optional) Moisturizer - Sunscreen PM 1: - Cleanser - Lactic Acid - (Optional) Moisturizer PM 2: - Cleanser - Granactive Retinoid - (Optional) Moisturizer Alternate between the different routines.
also can i use the ordinary bha aha exfoliant once a week without the copper peptides since i cant use ahas with copper peptides the skincare routine will be the same just minus the peptides
I started using the regular Buffet same time I started the 1% Retinol in squalane and surprisingly I'm fine. Sometimes my cheeks and eyes feel dry, but that's it
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank you. I'm floored my skin didn't react more when getting used to the 1%. I've always had sensitive skin so idk why lol! And after watching this video I'm even more surprised my skin didn't freak out. Maybe my skin is happier bc I've been taking care of it best I ever have this past year
Yes, surprisingly, The Ordinary Retinol 1% isn't even that strong compared to other formulations such as Paula's Choice 1%; there, it is essential not to do this as otherwise, you will burn your skin. Maybe the oil itself reduces the efficacy, or I think that many serums already lost some of their effectiveness when not stored correctly, so it is not the full strength people are getting. Because I sometimes get comments where people say they bought a new bottle, and now they suddenly experience irritation. But not sure; it depends on so many factors, and if it works for you no need to change anything. It is just that I want to make people aware of it as I also do not know who is watching my videos 😉
Oh I know, you are the most detailed skincare channel I've ever seen and I love you for that. I think I made my original comment bc I was shocked that mixing the buffet & retinol could irritate the skin bc I have sensitive skin and started the using both together a month ago or so and my skin peeled and purged less than when I adjusted to the retinol 0.2% & 0.5%. The Ordinary website says the regular Buffet and Retinol can be used together, so when i saw this video i thought "what?!" I apply the Buffet on a damp face bc no matter how many drops I use it remains sticky. So maybe I'm reducing the efficiency with the water, and therefore it's not increasing irritation when used with retinol? I'm sorry I didn't mean to sound arrogant in my first comment.
@@conniescrustycharredcooter2476 Yes, but what does it even mean if the skin is sensitive? You could be sensitive to some ingredients and others you tolerate well, so from that perspective, it is just random unless you have broken skin, etc. The Ordinary only points out the conflicts; technically, they do not have any. So no cross-reactivity happens. However, when reading some articles online, nobody seemed to have tested it, and the efficacy of the copper peptides is even another thing to consider, which we really do not know. Not many people apply skincare products to dry skin; if you think about it, you always apply to damp skin after you have washed your face. So many people tend to "dilute" it with the remaining water on the skin surface because they think that this is something you should do. (as I also believed in the beginning, but I never did that at home, just because some "online" dermatologist talked about it, which I now question a lot) So when I dug deeper, I found that there is no real definition, so I thought, well, if my clothes or sponge are damp, I cannot see any water on it, so I thought that this must also be the case for the skin. (even though it does not work like that) And I realized that so many people have issues with pilling while using these water-based serums, so I looked deeper into this. Now I think that the confusion here comes from the traditional moisturizers, which contain oils and other fatty substances to hide dehydration, so you wash the face. Then you apply such a substance on top immediately to keep it in the upper layer so that it does not evaporate. But these serums are already water-based and do not include these substances. So these humectants have already absorbed the water, which then "hopefully" stays in the upper layers of the skin (or even just on top). So I think you will only dilute it and even cause issues depending on the water quality at home. Edit: But what cleanser do you use? Because sometimes that can be the issue too. So if you use an oil/balm or hydrating cleanser, it builds this layer on top, making it very difficult for the serums to absorb well. I think this wasn't their purpose for being used like that.
hey so lol i found the peptides video haha since i wont be using copper peptides at night is it okay to use my panoxyl 4%creamy face wash and vitamin c eye cream? i use 2 different cleansers because somethings i use in the night cant be use with copper peptides and peptides help with a plumper look compared to eye cream and since i have nose crease acne the panoxyl helps
How to use AHAs and acids with tretinoin and the buffet copper peptides ? For example, by rotating products what would be the best way to do it and how frequently to use acids?
Hello Melissa 🫣, I can't really give you a good guide for this since it depends on your overall skin tolerance. But don't use them together, and it's probably better to alternate. Now, as a user of Adapalene, I can tell you that when I use an AHA (5-8%) more than twice a week, my skin becomes red and starts to break out.
Hi dear I m confused.please tell me I have pigmentation on my face.I already used alpha arbutin . Please tell me one more ordinary serum then I use with alpha arbutin fast cure pigmentation 🙏🏼 Thanku
What kind of pigmentation do you have? Also, keep in mind that there's no fast cure for pigmentation. Even with the right treatments, it will take time.
I received the buffet and hyaluronics marine. Question: Do we need to store them also in the fridge after opening the bottles like u said for granactive retinoid. Also, do we need to finish it in three months.
No and no :) have a look at the PAO on the bottle, this will tell you for how long you can use them once they are open :) How Long Do The Ordinary Products Last When Opened?: th-cam.com/video/1AwcgTcE3GU/w-d-xo.html
Hi Melissa! Find your videos very resourceful! However in a previous video you’ve shown that buffet and granactive retinoid can be used in a PM routine. But I’m this video you’ve suggested not to use them together in a routine. So I’m confused now!!
Hello Swati, It is primarily the copper peptides where people seem to have issues, but since peptides (in general) also "communicate" with our skin, so does retinol; therefore, you may experience sensitivities, but I think it is not a big deal. But people tend to mix all kinds of stuff; therefore, I rerecorded some of these videos and deleted older ones so that when people recreate the routines, they are happy 🙂
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Hmm difficult questions lol! I want to use it in the morning with Buffet. After your question, I checked the website of The Ordinary, and I think I must choose the one that doesn't conflict with the Buffet copper peptides, right?
@@NataliBoghossian What's your evening routine? If you want to use a Vitamin C product with Buffet, you need to choose a Vitamin C Derivative like TO Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet My evening routine is Cleanser/Buffet Copper peptides/amino acids/niacinamide/rosehip seed oil/moisturiser, and I alternate buffet + copper peptides with retinoid granactive 2 %.
hi melissa after watching lots of your video , and reading some of the comments i finally set up my skin care routine base on what is ok and not ok to mix can you help me to check if i make it right AM 1-cleanser 2.CaffeineSolution 5% + EGCG 3. Hyaluronic Acid 2% + B5 4. "Buffet" +Copper Peptides 1% 5-personal moisturizer 6. sunscreen PM 1.cleanser 2.CaffeineSolution 5% + EGCG 3. Multi-Peptide +HA Serum 4.retinoid 5.moisturizer i want to add Ascorbic Acid 8% + Alpha Arbutin 2% but i dunno where am or pm but is both contrast one of my serum
Hello Ofelia, Yes, all correct. And if you want to add Ascorbic Acid and Alpha Arbutin, you have to swap it with one of the peptide serums since they conflict. Also, Buffet + Copper Peptides has nearly an identical formulation as Multi-Peptide +HA Serum which was called Buffet before. However, it just has the added copper peptides, so in this case, Buffet Copper Peptides would be the better one to use. So you can do it like this: AM 1.Cleanser 2.Caffeine Solution 5% + EGCG 3.Hyaluronic Acid 2% + B5 4."Buffet" +Copper Peptides 1% 5.(Optional) moisturizer (not necessarily needed because you are already using so many hydrating products) 6. sunscreen PM 1.Cleanser 2.Caffeine Solution 5% + EGCG 3. Ascorbic Acid and Alpha Arbutin or Retinoid (Best to alternate) 4. moisturizer (if needed, sometimes you don't need it, and the formulations are already soothing/hydrating enough)
Hey melissa, how are u doing! Can you suggest me a routine cauz i can't trust anyone else 😐😅 , I want to lighten my skin and get rid of blackheads I have these products now ( -Salicylic Acid 2% Anhydrous Solution The Ordinary. -lactic acid 10% the ordinary, -Peeling solution AHA 30% + BHA 2% - THE ORDINARY, -Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1% - THE ORDINARY ) This is My routine now Day 1: Morning : Cerave salycilic acid cleanser Niacinamide Almond sweet oil (i use it as moisturizer ,is it good?) Night: Cerave salycilic acid cleanser Salicylic Acid 2% Anhydrous Solution The Ordinary. Day2 : Morning: Cerave salycilic acid cleanser Niacinamide Almond sweet oil Night: Cerave salycilic acid cleanser Acnestop (it's like differine) And i use the peeling solution once a week (I don't use lactic acid cauz i don't know when should i use it 😅) And today i bought a foundation that has vitamin c so i can't use niacinamide in the morning now , i was thinking to buy the ascrobic acid from the ordinary and use it in the morning ? Can i use it? And in the night i use my salycilic acid ? .... I've combination skin 😁
Hello JiJi, Yes, the trust issue is also something I have since most of them are connected in some way or another, which is very concerning. So first of all, for Blackheads, use a tool to extract them. That is the best way to get rid of them, and then you can use Salicylic Acid so that it won't happen as much anymore; still, if you are prone to get them, then you will... 😕 So you constantly need to maintain it. Now for the foundation, you can use it. Since it does not have Ascorbic Acid but a derivative, if you wait a bit in between, it shouldn't be an issue at all, and generally speaking, it is a very controversial topic! My suggestion would be not to use an oil as that may not be the right product for your skin needs and accelerates the blackhead issues further. Use as many water-based products as possible. Day 1: Morning : Cerave salycilic acid cleanser Niacinamide The Ordinary Natural Moisturizing Factors Sunscreen (If exposed to the sun, as shown in the video, the best would be mineral; NIOD would be an option, but it is expensive, especially if you have a lot of sun exposure and generally for daily use) Night: CeraVe Foaming Cleanser Salicylic Acid 2% Anhydrous Solution The Ordinary (Best would be The Ordinary Salicylic Acid Solution 2% in the water-based formulation) Day2 : Morning: Cerave salycilic acid cleanser Niacinamide The Ordinary Natural Moisturizing Factors Sunscreen (If exposed to the sun) Night: Cerave salycilic acid cleanser Acnestop (it's like differing) The Ordinary Peeling Solution once a week followed by The Ordinary Natural Moisturizing Factors You could alternate the SA solution with Lactic Acid. But not sure if that is needed, and it is primarily used for dry skin. SA is more so suitable for normal to oily.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank u so much melissa ❤️❤️❤️ !! So i can use my foundation in the morning ? (After the niacinamide) Or i use the ascrobic acid in the morning And in the night i use niacinamide ? I have another question, can i use niaciamide with salycilic acid 2% anhydrous solution ? Sorry for my questions and my english😅
@@some.one.333 Yes, you can use the foundation after Niacinamide, that's fine. I wouldn't add any more products to the routine because it becomes a lot. Yes, you can use Niacinamide with Salicylic Acid, use Niacinamide before applying the SA Anhydrous Solution.
I thought that was so thorough and wonderful I can’t wait to try some more serum‘s but I am really happy you reminded me to get up and do my nighttime routine and I love your videos. I can’t wait to explore more of the ordinary products right now I’m doing well just the Buffay, the caffeine serum and the moisturizing factors ✌️
Hey!
Thank you!🥰
Just use the products that really target your skin concerns, and the simpler you can keep it, the better :)
For how long have you been using those products? How is it going so far?
Hello Melissa
I wanted to ask
In night
Hyaluronic acid then niacinamide
Can I apply niacinamide right after I apply hyaluronic acid without giving hyaluronic a chance to dry
In morning
Bha then hyaluronic
Can I apply hyaluronic right after I apply bha without letting bha dry
Cause i Idont usually wait and directly apply the next acid so that it's applied on damp skin
Hey! :)
Damp skin does not mean that there is still water or serum on the skin surface...this can actually cause more problems (like skincare pilling or sensitivity or even just give you an uncomfortable feeling)...
Damp Skin refers to:
After washing your face, use a towel and pat your skin dry to remove the remaining water drops from the skin surface. Your skin will remain damp for +/- 30min.
Therefore, give your skin a moment to absorb each skincare product before moving on to the next step.
Wow! You’re looking absolutely stunningly gorgeous today!! 🌼😻🌸+😽👌💋(chef’s kiss!)👍
Super excited to see a video on peptides too!! Thank you 🙏
Happy July 👏👏👏 and have a blessed and marvellous weekend 🫶
best wishes from Sweden 🇸🇪
Hello Rosemary,
I haven't seen you in a while, how are you doing?
And once again, may I thank you so much for all your support!
And the same goes for you. Thank you 🥰
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thank you for caring 🤗 There have been a little up and down but I’m holding on 🤷🏻♀️ But one good thing when things are tough, things that you cannot control anyway, is to have the routines like the longer walks with the dog, talking to God (if you believe), keep on exercising AND the skincare 🧖🏻♀️ To an onlooker it might sound so benign but sometimes that really makes all the difference!
I’m glad to see you again!
Lots of love and support! 🫶❣️🌸🌼
@@rosemary5005 Yes, we are all going through this at the moment; sometimes, I feel that there is an energy shift because of the tense situation. But, I think talking to someone helps a lot; that can also make a huge difference. Or generally having some purpose in life, do something good for someone else etc. 😃
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet 💗 That’s true. Take care. Lots of love 💗
same goes for you and thanks again 🥰
Hi! Loved the video! For me to use it every day I need to alternate day and night routine so it should be something like this :
Day 1 AM : vit C skinceuticals
Day 1 PM : argereline ( just forehead) + buffet cooper
Day 2 AM : argereline + buffet cooper
Day 2 PM : tretinoin
*in the eye area I use hialu C by LRP in the morning and Caffeine by TO in the evening
Can it be?
* I just wrote the ‘main’ product in each routine! I know I have to use cleanser, spf , moisturizer etc
My main goal is fine lines , wrinkles, dullness! My skin is normal to dry but sensitive to a lot of products 😅
Thank you in advance
Hey! :)
Overall your routine looks good. I would use Vitamin C in the PM and alternate with Tretinoin so that you can use Argireline and Buffet + Copper Peptides in the AM, daily. It just would simplify the routine in my view :)
Hi Melissa,so glad to saw your post.i need the advice so my routine skin care would be perfect as i would like to add buffet + copper peptide.
Morning:
Vitamin c products and alternate with glycolic acid
Night:
I will alternate with buffet + copper peptide with retinol.
Is that alright?
Thanks in advance.
Hey! :)
What Vitamin C do you use?
Yes, that's fine.
Or you could do it like this:
AM 1: Cleanser, Vitamin C and Sunscreen
AM 2: Cleanser, Buffet + Copper Peptides and Sunscreen
PM 1: Cleanser, Glycolic Acid and (optional) moisturizer
PM 2: Cleanser, Retinol and (optional) moisturizer
Thank you so much for the reply. i use some whitening contains cleanser,then kielhs correction serum,then whitening contains moisturizer then sunscreen.
you are the real "the best ever" beauty teacher i had met.you response fast and informative to all the the questions. Thanks again for your advices. Sending love:))
Hi I’m a beginner to skin care routine (35yrs) ..I have never used any actives …may I know if I can use copper peptide serum or should go with multi peptide for few months before upgrading to copper peptide..
Also how can I incorporate ordinary barrier support serum and snail mucin along with peptides.
Thanks in advance 🙏
echnically, it doesn't matter, as it depends on your personal skin tolerance. You can use the one with copper peptides right away. However, these peptides are a bit controversial, meaning you will likely get the same results with the regular multi-peptide serum for a much cheaper price. So, from that perspective, it's the better choice. ;)
The layering would go like this:
Cleanser
Snail mucin
Multi-peptide serum
Barrier support serum
How to use The Ordinary Soothing & Barrier Support Serum
th-cam.com/video/QzqnC5I0-fw/w-d-xo.html
Thank u for taking time to reply ..❤️from India 🇮🇳
Hellooo! I'm about to add the Buffet + Copper Peptides into my routine. I'm currently using Niacinamide + Zinc, Polyglutamic acid by The Inkey List, Retinol Granactive, an Elf cleanser balm and a Cerave Moisturiser.
Do I need to take away a a hydrator if I want to push the Copper Peptides into a routine?
There's two routines.
A ) Elf cleanser Balm
Niacinamide + Zinc
Polyglutamic acid
Cerave moisturiser
B) Elf Cleanser Balm
Niacinamide + Zinc
Polyglutamic acid
Granactive Retinol
Cerave Moisturiser
Technically, no. Practically, it may not layer well. Therefore, I would suggest removing the Polyglutamic acid in the morning and alternating it with Buffet + Copper Peptides.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thank you so much. May I also ask whether the chemical peel is safe to use? I've become a little confused.
Can you use the chemical peel on off days when you don't use the copper peptide? Say if you usually do a chemical peel every 1 or 2 weeks, will that affect the way the copper works?
@@melanieturquoise1111 Yes, that's fine. Just don't Buffet+Copper Peptide, as well as Granactive Retinoid, on the day you want to use your chemical peel :)
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet You're an absolute star, thank you so much🥰🥰🥰
Plzzzzzz make a teenage skincare routine for oily skin plzzzzz it's a request
Hey! :)
Do you just have oily skin or acne as well, or any other skin concerns?
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDietyes I have oily skin
You could follow this routine:
The Ordinary Skincare Routine for Oily Acne Prone Skin:
th-cam.com/video/BoLMjpkcDSw/w-d-xo.html
Hi Melissa 👋
Still the most confusing subject 😕 for me.
I want to use buffet+copper peptides but I don't know when. As I have already told you, in the morning I use vitamine C 30% in silicone every day and in the evening granactive retinol 2% or glycolic acid. I still don't understand how to insert this new product in my routine. I think 🤔 I must stop using something of these products but which one? They are all very basics for my skin. (Combination skin, no irritation at all)
🙄💜❣🤩
Hello Κατερίνα,
Yes, maybe my explanation wasn't that good last time.
It is recommended not to use Buffet and Buffet Copper Peptides (or generally The Ordinary Peptides) with highly acidic products as the pH may be too low, making the peptides ineffective or less effective. But I think it isn't an issue as long as you do not use a lot of product or "mix" it.
Still, if you want to be safe, it is best not to use it together.
So as explained in the video, for you, it would be best to alternate daily.
Monday Granactive Retinoid
Tuesday Buffet Copper Peptides
Wednesday Granactive Retinoid
etc.
Using the retinol/retinoid together with Buffet may "conflict" as both "tell" your skin cells to rebuild and become healthy. There is no research for this. So nobody really tested it. I did a little "study" on myself, and it was an issue, and I got terrible breakouts when combining these products 😕
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet so I keep vitamine c in the morning and my glycolic acid toner once or twice a week? Is this 🤔 OK?
😞 I'm sorry. I insist a lot.I am sure you're tired with my questions but if I don't understand something fully I just don't do it.
Thank you so much for your patience 🙏 😘 ☺ ❤.
@@katerinamakri72 Ah, yes, that should work. But then you should not use buffet + copper peptides.
So you need three evening routines for this.
PM1:
Clean
Buffet + Copper Peptides
PM2:
Clean
Glycolic Acid Toning Solution
(rest you usually use, if you do)
PM3:
Clean
Granactive Retinoid 2%
@@katerinamakri72 Haha, no, I like to help; otherwise, I wouldn't reply to my comments 🤪 It takes some time to understand it entirely, but if you constantly do it, you will get better and better.
So when are you aloud to incorporate the liquid exfoliants into your skincare regimen? I just started using the copper peptide serum but I just reordered Paula’s choice bha liquid exfoliant and was excited to use that on my skin again. So is there a specific time I could actually use the exfoliant?
You could wait a few minutes (around 10) or just use the BHA when not using the peptide serums, and you are fine (that would be my suggestion).
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thanks so much for the response ❤️❤️ it’s hard to understand what is aloud to be paired together and all that but you’re a god sent for all this great information
Hi melissa, i use retinol squalane from the ordinary and cis de baha peptide serum. However, both of then have water consistent but I notice my peptide serum is thicker than retinol. Which one should be applied first?
The Peptide serum is water-based, while squalane is in an oil. Therefore, use the peptide serum before applying the retinol in squalane.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thankyou ❤️
Hey Melissa, I have Kojic acid serum, I do use copper peptide buffet in PM or AM, Will it affect my skin if I add this in another time when I am not applying copper peptide serum?
No, as long as you do not use them in the same routine it is fine.
I have started using Buffet, Marein, and granactive Retinoid. In this video, you said Buffet does not focus on fine lines, wrinkles, elasticity, and firmness. But I need to focus on fine lines and also on wrinkles, so what extra serum should I need to add. Pls suggest.
Well, it is controversial and still not fully understood if it penetrates deeply enough to show effects on fine lines, wrinkles, elasticity, and firmness.
However, the retinoid you are using should help you with that :) So, you have all the serums you need.
Thank you for reply 😊. Love you
is there a toner you'd recommend using in the morning or serum before the moisturizer?
i got told to add a toner but idk if i can put toner or serums over peptides
Hello , I don’t know if I can use copper peptides and niacinamide 10%+zinc in the same routine ??? Thank you ❤
Yes you can!
Hey Melissa 💓
Can we use ordinary buffet serum
With Neutrogena repaid wrinkles repair moisturizer with SPF 30
???
Yes you can! :)
Can i use niacinamide and buffet on alternate days?
Or do i have u use them daily to get the full benefits.m
And should i apply hyaluronic acid before or after buffet or niacinamide.?
Well, nobody really knows that. But peptides are generally questionable because they may not penetrate deep enough to give you the benefits (long-term). So to see temporary benefits, I suggest using them daily. I mean, unless you do not tolerate it.
And using Hyaluronic Acid along Buffet is also unnecessary as it already contains it. But you can layer these products in any order since they are all water-based. So the best advice I can give you is to test it! 😃
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank u.😊
Hi melissa
How are you dear looking really nice and fresh..
As I share with you many times my ordinary skincare routine but I have little problem.
When I use my ordinary skincare products my face pilling after applying and face became a feel like after shaving bumps. But haven't hair at my face. means face not smooth and plump.
Any suggestions plz
Hey! :)
Thank you🥰
What's your current skincare routine?
After what product does the reaction happen?
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thanks for reply.
I share with you my current skincare routine...
AM: after face wash i use Hyaluronic acid, ordinary moisturizer, then vitamin C SUSPENSION lastly Mineral Sunscreen everyday same routine.
PM Rotien:
Monday Lactic acid, Niacinamide, alpha Arbutin, moisturizer.
Tuesday night: salicylic Acid, Niacinamide, Alpha Arbutin, Moisturizer.
Wednesday: Buffet, Niacinamide, Alpha Arbutin, moisturizer.
Thursday: Face wash Salicylic Acid mask, Niacinamide, Alpha Arbutin, Granactive Retinoid 5%
Three nights same routine
Is anything wrong?
Hmm...you are using so many skincare products...
For how long have you been doing this routine?
Since when do you experience those bumps?
What are your skin concerns?
How often do you exfoliate your skin per week? As I think you may be overdoing it, which then causes sensitivity. Or you may be reacting to a skincare product like Hyaluronic Acid...
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet my skin concerns first pigmentation and blackheads in nose uneven skin tone and dullness.
I have dry combination skin.
How i Exfoliate properly?
And how I create properly skincare routine with these products?
Thank you soo much for your help . God bless you
@@allfoodhomemade6211 Do you really have a blackhead problem or do you only seen them when looking closer into the mirror? What kind of pigmentation do you have?
AM 1:
- Cleanser
- Niacinamide
- Alpha Arbutin
- (Optional) Moisturizer
- Sunscreen
(Optional) AM 2:
- Cleanser
- Vitamin C Suspension (only if you use sunscreen when having sun exposure)
- (Optional) Moisturizer
- Sunscreen
PM 1:
- Cleanser
- Lactic Acid
- (Optional) Moisturizer
PM 2:
- Cleanser
- Granactive Retinoid
- (Optional) Moisturizer
Alternate between the different routines.
also can i use the ordinary bha aha exfoliant once a week without the copper peptides since i cant use ahas with copper peptides
the skincare routine will be the same just minus the peptides
I started using the regular Buffet same time I started the 1% Retinol in squalane and surprisingly I'm fine. Sometimes my cheeks and eyes feel dry, but that's it
If it works for you, keep using it like this :) It mainly depends the overall formulation of the products and how your skin will respond to it :)
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank you. I'm floored my skin didn't react more when getting used to the 1%. I've always had sensitive skin so idk why lol! And after watching this video I'm even more surprised my skin didn't freak out. Maybe my skin is happier bc I've been taking care of it best I ever have this past year
Yes, surprisingly, The Ordinary Retinol 1% isn't even that strong compared to other formulations such as Paula's Choice 1%; there, it is essential not to do this as otherwise, you will burn your skin.
Maybe the oil itself reduces the efficacy, or I think that many serums already lost some of their effectiveness when not stored correctly, so it is not the full strength people are getting. Because I sometimes get comments where people say they bought a new bottle, and now they suddenly experience irritation. But not sure; it depends on so many factors, and if it works for you no need to change anything. It is just that I want to make people aware of it as I also do not know who is watching my videos 😉
Oh I know, you are the most detailed skincare channel I've ever seen and I love you for that. I think I made my original comment bc I was shocked that mixing the buffet & retinol could irritate the skin bc I have sensitive skin and started the using both together a month ago or so and my skin peeled and purged less than when I adjusted to the retinol 0.2% & 0.5%. The Ordinary website says the regular Buffet and Retinol can be used together, so when i saw this video i thought "what?!" I apply the Buffet on a damp face bc no matter how many drops I use it remains sticky. So maybe I'm reducing the efficiency with the water, and therefore it's not increasing irritation when used with retinol?
I'm sorry I didn't mean to sound arrogant in my first comment.
@@conniescrustycharredcooter2476 Yes, but what does it even mean if the skin is sensitive? You could be sensitive to some ingredients and others you tolerate well, so from that perspective, it is just random unless you have broken skin, etc.
The Ordinary only points out the conflicts; technically, they do not have any. So no cross-reactivity happens. However, when reading some articles online, nobody seemed to have tested it, and the efficacy of the copper peptides is even another thing to consider, which we really do not know.
Not many people apply skincare products to dry skin; if you think about it, you always apply to damp skin after you have washed your face.
So many people tend to "dilute" it with the remaining water on the skin surface because they think that this is something you should do. (as I also believed in the beginning, but I never did that at home, just because some "online" dermatologist talked about it, which I now question a lot) So when I dug deeper, I found that there is no real definition, so I thought, well, if my clothes or sponge are damp, I cannot see any water on it, so I thought that this must also be the case for the skin. (even though it does not work like that) And I realized that so many people have issues with pilling while using these water-based serums, so I looked deeper into this.
Now I think that the confusion here comes from the traditional moisturizers, which contain oils and other fatty substances to hide dehydration, so you wash the face. Then you apply such a substance on top immediately to keep it in the upper layer so that it does not evaporate. But these serums are already water-based and do not include these substances. So these humectants have already absorbed the water, which then "hopefully" stays in the upper layers of the skin (or even just on top). So I think you will only dilute it and even cause issues depending on the water quality at home.
Edit: But what cleanser do you use? Because sometimes that can be the issue too. So if you use an oil/balm or hydrating cleanser, it builds this layer on top, making it very difficult for the serums to absorb well. I think this wasn't their purpose for being used like that.
hey so lol i found the peptides video haha
since i wont be using copper peptides at night is it okay to use my panoxyl 4%creamy face wash and vitamin c eye cream?
i use 2 different cleansers because somethings i use in the night cant be use with copper peptides and peptides help with a plumper look compared to eye cream and since i have nose crease acne the panoxyl helps
I saw all your comments; please check the reply to your first comment.
Do u recommend apply buffet before cosrx snail mucin?
yes :)
Hi
Where can I accommodate argireline in this routine and the vitamin C ( ascorbyl glucoside solution 12 %) ,
Best wishes
Into this routine? It is not needed as Buffet already contains it. And you could use Ascorbyl Glucoside before or after Buffet. 😃
How to use AHAs and acids with tretinoin and the buffet copper peptides ? For example, by rotating products what would be the best way to do it and how frequently to use acids?
Hello Melissa 🫣,
I can't really give you a good guide for this since it depends on your overall skin tolerance. But don't use them together, and it's probably better to alternate. Now, as a user of Adapalene, I can tell you that when I use an AHA (5-8%) more than twice a week, my skin becomes red and starts to break out.
Does azelaic acid conflict with these?
yes
Hi dear I m confused.please tell me I have pigmentation on my face.I already used alpha arbutin . Please tell me one more ordinary serum then I use with alpha arbutin fast cure pigmentation 🙏🏼 Thanku
What kind of pigmentation do you have? Also, keep in mind that there's no fast cure for pigmentation. Even with the right treatments, it will take time.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet not hyperpigmentation mam it’s light dark sports appears after pregnancy and dull skin fine line also .
@@kristyalesha2018 It won't work for melasma. In that case, it is best to visit a doctor or dermatologist.
Can you use hyloronic acid with this and before or after
Yes, :)
Use it before :)
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank you so much!
I received the buffet and hyaluronics marine. Question: Do we need to store them also in the fridge after opening the bottles like u said for granactive retinoid. Also, do we need to finish it in three months.
No and no :) have a look at the PAO on the bottle, this will tell you for how long you can use them once they are open :)
How Long Do The Ordinary Products Last When Opened?: th-cam.com/video/1AwcgTcE3GU/w-d-xo.html
Ma’am are you still using The ordinary hair serum? Can you update? Please🌹
No, I do not use that one anymore.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thankyou. Please do a haircare routine ma’am ❤️ your hair looks beautiful 🌹🌹❤️
Thank you, I'm currently taking weekly pictures of a shampoo and conditioner that I'm currently testing :)
Hi Melissa! Find your videos very resourceful! However in a previous video you’ve shown that buffet and granactive retinoid can be used in a PM routine. But I’m this video you’ve suggested not to use them together in a routine. So I’m confused now!!
Hello Swati,
It is primarily the copper peptides where people seem to have issues, but since peptides (in general) also "communicate" with our skin, so does retinol; therefore, you may experience sensitivities, but I think it is not a big deal. But people tend to mix all kinds of stuff; therefore, I rerecorded some of these videos and deleted older ones so that when people recreate the routines, they are happy 🙂
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Thanks Melissa, this helps! And keep up the good work! :)
Can we use effaclar duo with peptide ?
Yes :)
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank you but doesn't the bha in effaclar duo break the peptide?
I don't think that the DUO has a low pH; therefore it shouldn't be an issue.
Thank you for this amazing guide. I have one question, when to use Vitamin C?
What Vitamin C do you want to use? And do you want to use it with Buffet or Retinol 🤔
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet Hmm difficult questions lol! I want to use it in the morning with Buffet. After your question, I checked the website of The Ordinary, and I think I must choose the one that doesn't conflict with the Buffet copper peptides, right?
@@NataliBoghossian What's your evening routine?
If you want to use a Vitamin C product with Buffet, you need to choose a Vitamin C Derivative like TO Ascorbyl Glucoside Solution.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet My evening routine is Cleanser/Buffet Copper peptides/amino acids/niacinamide/rosehip seed oil/moisturiser, and I alternate buffet + copper peptides with retinoid granactive 2 %.
@@NataliBoghossian So, why do you have Buffet and Buffet + Copper Peptides, and why do you want to use both of them during the same day?
hi melissa after watching lots of your video , and reading some of the comments i finally set up my skin care routine base on what is ok and not ok to mix
can you help me to check if i make it right
AM
1-cleanser
2.CaffeineSolution 5% + EGCG
3. Hyaluronic Acid 2% + B5
4. "Buffet" +Copper Peptides 1%
5-personal moisturizer
6. sunscreen
PM
1.cleanser
2.CaffeineSolution 5% + EGCG
3. Multi-Peptide +HA Serum
4.retinoid
5.moisturizer
i want to add Ascorbic Acid
8% + Alpha Arbutin 2% but i dunno where am or pm but is both contrast one of my serum
Hello Ofelia,
Yes, all correct. And if you want to add Ascorbic Acid and Alpha Arbutin, you have to swap it with one of the peptide serums since they conflict.
Also, Buffet + Copper Peptides has nearly an identical formulation as Multi-Peptide +HA Serum which was called Buffet before. However, it just has the added copper peptides, so in this case, Buffet Copper Peptides would be the better one to use.
So you can do it like this:
AM
1.Cleanser
2.Caffeine Solution 5% + EGCG
3.Hyaluronic Acid 2% + B5
4."Buffet" +Copper Peptides 1%
5.(Optional) moisturizer (not necessarily needed because you are already using so many hydrating products)
6. sunscreen
PM
1.Cleanser
2.Caffeine Solution 5% + EGCG
3. Ascorbic Acid and Alpha Arbutin or Retinoid (Best to alternate)
4. moisturizer (if needed, sometimes you don't need it, and the formulations are already soothing/hydrating enough)
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet 😘i really appreciate
@@ofeliasales4914 🥰
Hey melissa, how are u doing!
Can you suggest me a routine cauz i can't trust anyone else 😐😅
, I want to lighten my skin and get rid of blackheads
I have these products now (
-Salicylic Acid 2% Anhydrous Solution The Ordinary.
-lactic acid 10% the ordinary,
-Peeling solution AHA 30% + BHA 2% - THE ORDINARY,
-Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1% - THE ORDINARY
)
This is My routine now
Day 1:
Morning :
Cerave salycilic acid cleanser
Niacinamide
Almond sweet oil (i use it as moisturizer ,is it good?)
Night:
Cerave salycilic acid cleanser
Salicylic Acid 2% Anhydrous Solution The Ordinary.
Day2 :
Morning:
Cerave salycilic acid cleanser
Niacinamide
Almond sweet oil
Night:
Cerave salycilic acid cleanser
Acnestop (it's like differine)
And i use the peeling solution once a week
(I don't use lactic acid cauz i don't know when should i use it 😅)
And today i bought a foundation that has vitamin c so i can't use niacinamide in the morning now , i was thinking to buy the ascrobic acid from the ordinary and use it in the morning ?
Can i use it? And in the night i use my salycilic acid ?
.... I've combination skin 😁
Hello JiJi,
Yes, the trust issue is also something I have since most of them are connected in some way or another, which is very concerning.
So first of all, for Blackheads, use a tool to extract them. That is the best way to get rid of them, and then you can use Salicylic Acid so that it won't happen as much anymore; still, if you are prone to get them, then you will... 😕 So you constantly need to maintain it.
Now for the foundation, you can use it. Since it does not have Ascorbic Acid but a derivative, if you wait a bit in between, it shouldn't be an issue at all, and generally speaking, it is a very controversial topic!
My suggestion would be not to use an oil as that may not be the right product for your skin needs and accelerates the blackhead issues further. Use as many water-based products as possible.
Day 1:
Morning :
Cerave salycilic acid cleanser
Niacinamide
The Ordinary Natural Moisturizing Factors
Sunscreen (If exposed to the sun, as shown in the video, the best would be mineral; NIOD would be an option, but it is expensive, especially if you have a lot of sun exposure and generally for daily use)
Night:
CeraVe Foaming Cleanser
Salicylic Acid 2% Anhydrous Solution The Ordinary (Best would be The Ordinary Salicylic Acid Solution 2% in the water-based formulation)
Day2 :
Morning:
Cerave salycilic acid cleanser
Niacinamide
The Ordinary Natural Moisturizing Factors
Sunscreen (If exposed to the sun)
Night:
Cerave salycilic acid cleanser
Acnestop (it's like differing)
The Ordinary Peeling Solution once a week
followed by The Ordinary Natural Moisturizing Factors
You could alternate the SA solution with Lactic Acid. But not sure if that is needed, and it is primarily used for dry skin. SA is more so suitable for normal to oily.
@@MelissaVanDijkTheSkinDiet thank u so much melissa ❤️❤️❤️ !!
So i can use my foundation in the morning ? (After the niacinamide)
Or i use the ascrobic acid in the morning
And in the night i use niacinamide ?
I have another question, can i use niaciamide with salycilic acid 2% anhydrous solution ?
Sorry for my questions and my english😅
@@some.one.333 Yes, you can use the foundation after Niacinamide, that's fine. I wouldn't add any more products to the routine because it becomes a lot. Yes, you can use Niacinamide with Salicylic Acid, use Niacinamide before applying the SA Anhydrous Solution.