Where did Dragon Ball Z's top animators go?

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  • Dragon Ball certainly has its fair share of fan favourite animators, however, where did names like Masaki Sato, Naotoshi Shida, Keisuke Masunaga, and many more end up the show's conclusion in 1996? Well, join me today as I go in-depth as to what they have been working on all these years and are currently today!
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ความคิดเห็น • 118

  • @nazarenomilohanich4883
    @nazarenomilohanich4883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    For those looking for specific timestamps:
    0:35 Masaki Sato
    4:45 Naotoshi Shida
    8:37 Keisuke Masunaga
    11:04 Masahiro Shimanuki
    14:04 Kazuya Hisada
    15:07 Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru
    Anyways, great video as always dude!

  • @mohamedaminehamdouchi7179
    @mohamedaminehamdouchi7179 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Another great video.. Although shida is INSANE when it comes to fluidity of his animation and the crazy rotations, poses and motion in general, i've always loved satou's art style, it's kinda ridiculous how identical some of his shots are to the manga counterpart, but his key animation was kinda stiff...

    • @forgottenrelics1197
      @forgottenrelics1197  2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Thanks man and Sato himself commented on how rigid some the movement was in his old work a while back haha, but likewise I still love his gorgeous art though!

    • @j04370859
      @j04370859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Shida's animation, has become a bit repetitive.

    • @ItsOver9000Productions
      @ItsOver9000Productions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@j04370859 I'll take it anyway lol

    • @IamJay02
      @IamJay02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@j04370859 he uses the same storyboard sometimes but it looks damn good

  • @dlbutters7164
    @dlbutters7164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    4:47 Just... Look.. At... THAT!!!
    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @mechajay3358
    @mechajay3358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    It would be pretty awesome if Sato, Masunaga and Nakatsuru return to Dragon Ball in some capacity.

    • @j04370859
      @j04370859 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seems unlikely with Sato, he hasn't animated anything in years.

  • @PAntS-23
    @PAntS-23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    4:36 this man is my hero. It's bringing me to tears realizing he's blessing Naohiro Shintani and the younger talent to takeover. Thank you Sato for defining my childhood 🙏

  • @FirithPanda
    @FirithPanda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    At this point, I have started to fall out of love with anime not just due to the animation, but to anime plots as well. Something I'd love to see is a modern day anime attempted with old school style; hell, imagine if Hunter x Hunter kept the look from the old anime. I don't know, maybe I'm just not good at telling art and animation, but I just... want to see something that doesn't look plastic or super bright and vivid.
    Modern things can look great and I've seen quite a handful of modern shows that have beautiful animation, but those are rare and not as frequent as I like.
    And shiiiit I miss series taking risks and making unique ideas like, uhhh, Kyatto Ninden Teyandee!
    Great video as always, loved it and learning about the animators!

    • @robhasdriven895
      @robhasdriven895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Watch megalobox, great show, old feel

    • @forgottenrelics1197
      @forgottenrelics1197  2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Osamu Ranking is definitely a show you'll want to check out if that's what you're looking for, the character designs hearken more back to the 80's with the rounder style and the colour palettes for both the background art to skin tones is likewise inspired by that era.

    • @TheyBenefit
      @TheyBenefit 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I quite liked the Dragon Quest anime by Toei. It's rare to see them do anything decent but I felt like the design was so consistent throughout the show

  • @Pekara121
    @Pekara121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    One Piece is so long every animator has had their fingers in one episode at least once xD

  • @KameZX
    @KameZX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I can’t believe how much hard work goes into researching for these vids keep up the good work!

  • @daykuohtwo8422
    @daykuohtwo8422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was LITERALLY wondering this the other day! Awesome work man!

  • @RamenPerfected
    @RamenPerfected 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ur channel is god tier.

  • @HollowIchigo54
    @HollowIchigo54 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the kind of content I love watching on youtube.

  • @ultralevixz5912
    @ultralevixz5912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love watching your videos because it's always interesting and fun to watch

  • @craigime
    @craigime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you always make amazing videos man. love hearing your voice

  • @zenel2893
    @zenel2893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm new here! This channel is amazing and made me watch many video of it, keep it up!

  • @AntonioMalara
    @AntonioMalara 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OH MY GOD! Thanks a lot for the featuring, now I know why I got all those followers today haha

  • @soul_in_search_of_enlightm2131
    @soul_in_search_of_enlightm2131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow man so much information you have gathered ,love your dedication and passion for DBZ

  • @perrydimes6915
    @perrydimes6915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super cool vid, though I was sad to not see Onishi Ryo on here...only to realize he only started working on Dragonball after the end of Z in 1996. Man Dragonball has been around for a while hasn't it LOL

  • @xaviermartinez4872
    @xaviermartinez4872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ok this was great. But now I want the sequel to this video!

    • @forgottenrelics1197
      @forgottenrelics1197  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This one was pretty exhausting to make so it might have to wait 😅

    • @xaviermartinez4872
      @xaviermartinez4872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@forgottenrelics1197 all good all good!
      I love all the content you make regardless. This just felt different and new and it was really nice! Definitely felt the hard work on this one!

  • @josephaugen247
    @josephaugen247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really love your channel, man!

  • @ryanmaddugal
    @ryanmaddugal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Please Make a part 2.

  • @akil5695
    @akil5695 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Masaki Sato's art is awesome and later today he said that he is not a big fan of of dbs super hero full CG movies but the story might be cool

    • @forgottenrelics1197
      @forgottenrelics1197  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I completely missed that haha

    • @akil5695
      @akil5695 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@forgottenrelics1197 he was talking about nose shading on vegeta on the second trailer and he said he can't do it on his work it would be lame I think,and then someone asked about his thoughts about dbs super hero and he said something like he is not too interested in full CG movie but if the plot is interesting that would ok

  • @aagamer43
    @aagamer43 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Imagine if Sato returned in dbs season 2

    • @El_Mince
      @El_Mince ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shintani and Kubota are both great, but it’s sad to think of what could’ve been.

    • @TheyBenefit
      @TheyBenefit 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wrote him a tweet once about it which he liked. This was back when super was still airing tho. I wish they'd get him on board

  • @moro-og-739
    @moro-og-739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Im actually very sad I haven’t seen Nakatsuru and Masunga on Dragon Ball lately.
    Especially Masunaga carried Dragon Ball Z for me in the Buu Saga

  • @sharingansasuke5
    @sharingansasuke5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s good to hear masunaga is working on one of his dream series (and also one of my personal favorites) Yamato 2199. So good

  • @vonigner
    @vonigner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative, thank you!

  • @jayimzd
    @jayimzd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is so well done and fascinating. Great job 👏👏👏

  • @katon4525
    @katon4525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your content! Thank you for all the hard work you do on these videos 🙏

  • @scrollingdownonlytofindcom2663
    @scrollingdownonlytofindcom2663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's interesting watching and learning about this. I wonder what animators think about the shows they work on; it's surely a unique view compared to viewers.

  • @shadowninja1059
    @shadowninja1059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I miss masunaga really wished to see his animations in super

    • @j04370859
      @j04370859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yuya Takahashi's work, is based on his and old school Yamamuro.

  • @yam9195
    @yam9195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The real question is "What is Shintani currently working on?"

  • @santiagomoralesgarcia1802
    @santiagomoralesgarcia1802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Like Masunaga and Yamamuro we need someone with a similar art like the one from sato in the saiyan saga art.
    It is amazing how do you get so much info about dragon ball serie animators and directors.

    • @shadowninja1059
      @shadowninja1059 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Naotoshi reminds of Masunaga except Masunaga got that raw and fierce details in his animations

    • @j04370859
      @j04370859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We do and that's Shintani, if he really is returning to do the series.

  • @cashmoneybrown6705
    @cashmoneybrown6705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ya boi is first zehahaha. Also noice video as always my boi

  • @nickmarks9909
    @nickmarks9909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ForgottenRelics, I’m curious, what would you say is your favorite looking scene out of Z? Whether it be because of art, animation, etc.

    • @forgottenrelics1197
      @forgottenrelics1197  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's pretty hard haha, maybe Shimanuki's Kamehameha vs Galick gun? Honestly can't pick rn 😅

  • @The_Ghost55
    @The_Ghost55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like to see video on one piece and Naruto_ love from India 😀

  • @alsimmonshellspawn6021
    @alsimmonshellspawn6021 ปีที่แล้ว

    Masaki sato + hisashi heguchi= gold

  • @Godzilla00X
    @Godzilla00X 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the anime that plays at 13:15?

  • @robertwyatt3912
    @robertwyatt3912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man imagine if sato WAS able to work on DBS: Broly

  • @zekken8227
    @zekken8227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hopefully we can get dragon ball animtaed like current OP, its a bit of a stretch tho

    • @forgottenrelics1197
      @forgottenrelics1197  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I do to, but a lot of staff will be freed up over this year with the conclusion of World Trigger, Digimon Ghost game, Dragon Quest Dai etc. so it's not entirely impossible.

    • @BluFloo
      @BluFloo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you mean the artstyle like one piece wano or Broly movie. Then yeah they can do that easily. Its basically just a composition filter that they apple post animation

    • @zekken8227
      @zekken8227 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BluFloo not just the artstyle but also like the talented people Ryo Onishi, Tu Yong Ce etc,,, as well as some of the talented directors.
      Also its not just the filter the character designer is different, its not Yamamuro its Shintani

  • @ms.antithesis
    @ms.antithesis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i didn't even know dr slump had a reboot lol..

  • @akil5695
    @akil5695 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to see Yo son goku and friends returns animation breakdown

  • @libangomani1954
    @libangomani1954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Make sure to make yamamuro in the next, I want to know where he is

    • @forgottenrelics1197
      @forgottenrelics1197  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's currently on the Super Dragon Ball Heroes anime :)

    • @libangomani1954
      @libangomani1954 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@forgottenrelics1197 so he hasn't retired yet😕

    • @libangomani1954
      @libangomani1954 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@forgottenrelics1197 do you think his going to be back the next season of super or are they going to do cgi just like the movie👀

  • @SteveCrafts2k
    @SteveCrafts2k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:29
    What movie is this?

  • @mika9383
    @mika9383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did these animators carried over their styles or traits into their other works?

    • @forgottenrelics1197
      @forgottenrelics1197  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It varies between them, Nakatsuru's rounded style drawings with loose movement is still very present. Shimanuki's detailed effects work, emphasis on actions with bold speed lines and rigid posing certainly is. Sato's love for drawing muscular characters with detailed designs has never changed. Hisada's way of handling movement when arriving on OP wasn't to different than DB, however has changed over time.

  • @jooshdavid
    @jooshdavid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The bigger question is, where did sugoisuketchi go?? 🤔

  • @ZZtheDark
    @ZZtheDark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7:52, this scene was so good, it was reused in Dragonball Heroes when SSJB Goku fought Hearts, showcasing what SSJ Blue shoulda been in Super, delicate but powerful if your mind is in the right spot. th-cam.com/video/0Xpl8iNP3Sc/w-d-xo.html
    9:46, yup..it's the queen herself.
    10:23, gunna need to watch Star Blazers remake.
    10:45, Dang it, Keisuke! You WANTED to draw Yuki like that! X_X
    10:55, DUDE!!! I WATCHED THIS SHOW!! IT'S SO AWESOME. It's literally Kazuhiko Shimamoto and the Gainax gang. It's awesome. Check it out. Check it out.
    15:23, love it.
    16:39, that pirate looks like he can belong in Lupin the 3rd.

    • @forgottenrelics1197
      @forgottenrelics1197  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I watched through the 3rd episode while doing research for this vid and I definitely considered it :)

    • @j04370859
      @j04370859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Blue has been shown to be really powerful, in the manga.

    • @ZZtheDark
      @ZZtheDark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@j04370859 The anime really messed things up. No wonder ppl dislike the anime for other reasons. They really shoulda spammed SSJ3 since it was the closest to Saiyans ever going against those stronger than others but a little second to the Gods tbh. SSJ Blue shoulda been used for gods or for emergency uses tbh.

    • @scrollingdownonlytofindcom2663
      @scrollingdownonlytofindcom2663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ZZtheDark I wish they also clarified what the differences are between normal ki and god ki. God ki seems worthless when Hit, Jiren etc, who have no god ki whatsoever,. are equal to SSB.

    • @j04370859
      @j04370859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ZZtheDark Yeah, that was one of the things I hated about the anime, they spammed that form too much, after the Black arc, having much weaker characters match it, or being used unnecessary, it was all marketing.

  • @FalseHope61
    @FalseHope61 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dragon Ball doesn’t NEED great animation. It needs great story telling, pacing, suspense, character design, and only adequate animation. My father, whos never seen anything dragon ball, I showed him a few episodes of the old Z series and then the new broly movie. He said the Z series looked the best. When I told him that was the OLD series. He was blown away. He said the newer stuff lacked depth, and emotion.

    • @Cr102y
      @Cr102y 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What depth? DB barely any had any and it didn’t really need any.
      And besides,DBS Broly hardly lacks any of that at all,especially thanks to Broly himself considering that he is far more developed and unique than most DB villains.

  • @AristoSwizzy
    @AristoSwizzy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Early squad 🔥

  • @specialnewb9821
    @specialnewb9821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. I wonder how each of these animators view their time on Dragonball in relation to their careers. Speaking of DB animators, did you see Yuya Takahashi's latest uploads? He walked us through short sequences of G and V doing their classic battle poses!

    • @forgottenrelics1197
      @forgottenrelics1197  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah I was watching through some of it earlier today :)

  • @minedantaken1684
    @minedantaken1684 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about Yukio Ebisawa and Masayuki Uchiyama????

    • @ian09dbz
      @ian09dbz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      we don't talk about uchiyama.

  • @CompulsingFate
    @CompulsingFate 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do I become a featured artist?

  • @Sonicfalcon16
    @Sonicfalcon16 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So basicly hired these gods

  • @divinicron5454
    @divinicron5454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have a favorite Naruto animator?

  • @ian09dbz
    @ian09dbz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    shida pulled a piccolo and absorbed them all

  • @AUSTIN.F
    @AUSTIN.F 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍👍👌

  • @VitorCesar
    @VitorCesar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    make one piece related video too

  • @Userdoesnotexit
    @Userdoesnotexit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    bro expand beyond Dragon ball.

  • @Dreamfillah
    @Dreamfillah 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shida's great, but his animations are always lacking in weight and impact with all the waveyness.

  • @ms.antithesis
    @ms.antithesis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    first

  • @Benitocamelas704
    @Benitocamelas704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why animators like Nakatsuru weren’t in the staff of Dragon ball Super?

    • @UnofficialStudios
      @UnofficialStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nakatsuru went to work on other shows during Super

    • @forgottenrelics1197
      @forgottenrelics1197  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nakatsuru did work on Super's first ep however he doesn't really stick to a particular show anymore often bouncing between projects.

  • @幽霊船-o4h
    @幽霊船-o4h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They left because the anime industry didnt pay them enough to pay their rent lmao

  • @86Fallowcp
    @86Fallowcp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So... is it Masaki Sato's fault for disrespecting Record of Ragnarok's designs? Hopefully it was a comitee decision rather than his...

    • @Ergeniz
      @Ergeniz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What are you talking about?