God that 80s-90s Anime Aesthetic will always be the GOAT look for DragonBall. While I love the Broly movie's art Honestly whenever Im lookin thru all the amazing art of that era it makes me wish current DragonBall pulled what MegaloBox did, where they kept a 90s Aesthetic but w/ Modern work done to amplify it. Great Video!
I'm so amazed realizing how color choice made huge difference to the overall aesthetic of Super, like you mean we could've had much more if it wasn't for the direction of colors.
I hope the movie doesn't become a Goku movie, everything there is perfect for Gohan, also, they should have ditched the Goku clothes in Gohan at the end of super, he should have participated with the Saiyaman costume, something so basic about the character and they got it wrong.
@@alenasenie6928 never really cared for Great Saiyaman, thought it was a little too corny by half.. but the green and black wasn't bad. I like him in his orange or purple uniforms.
Seriously, they look like runway models and then proceed to go full broly with Kale All I wanted was for the Saiyan women to at least look like tomboy Videl.... Which is best Videl
I couldnt disagree more. His version of caulifla looked HORRIBLE. Literally disgusts me. Caulifla and kefla are my two favorite characters introduced into super. The fact that he increased her mass is just a deal break entirely for me. His interpretation of caulifla is shameful at best in my opinion.
It takes more than art style to improve the direction of current Super, just read the manga and you'll constantly raise your eyebrows, roll your eyes and scratch your head with the questionable take in the Moro and Granola arc
Yeah I would like that too especially for other animes as well but like all things they must change and evolve at some point. The old must go so the new can flourish
This is why I mostly watch 90's anime. Don't get me wrong there are very nice modern artstyle's out there but they are rare. To much computer generated art destroys the experience for me. Maybe if I grew up with it I wouldn't notice but I grew up with oldschool sadly I can't bring myselve to like Super. Maybe if the story was good but that's not the case either.
@@silentslayergaming8469 actually he's right I honestly think a mix of DBZS & Dbz would be the best mix a Newer animation with an older style like the physique & Expressions of Dbz & Expressions & Physique of Super fighting scenes for Dbz Physique resting Physique for Dbzs or just have specific snap shots for old Dbz Physique every now & then When Emphasised on the Body while fighting Expressions of Dbz mixed with Dbzs to make more expressive depending have more older Dbz Expressions than Super but depending on the scene more Super Expressions other than that more shading Closer to OG DBZ & Better lighting for Characters
The aura issue was really interesting to see broken down. I personally really like that the auras for the newer, godly forms are heavier and thicker. It always gave me a sense that the energy was more powerful, or perhaps “more concentrated” is a better way of putting it. However, even I can admit that Super definitely went overboard with them, Ultra Instinct being the prime example. I think the approach taken of more classic aura designs with a large variation in colors compared to the classics worked well… to a point. SSJB Kaio Ken easily looked the best in my opinion, Goku Black’s looked good, the little we saw of Trunks was alright, but Ultra Instinct… Personally, I think the redone UI aura was an example of going too far in the other direction. It was made so simplistic, that it really did just look like a standard SSJ aura colored different. For better or worse, UI has one of the most unique auras in the series, and losing all of those unique qualities leaves me feeling more than a little disappointed. Even a different design for the energy outline would’ve helped it feel more distinct, but instead we got “SSJ aura but white.” I can’t help but feel like there was some missed opportunity here, I don’t know. TL;DR, someone with no art skills rambles about art.
I totally agree with you! Personally for me the best thing about the whole Super design choices is the auras, I know they tend to be lackluster in execution but the effort they went through to differentiate then is at least worth nothing, the fire of the SSGod, the comet-like particles of the UI omen, or the eerie aura of SSRose are small details that I really enjoyed and praise from time to time, I think it helps A LOT to make the transformations feel different, just like back on the day when SS2 had a lot more sparks than SS1.
that last point about drawing skills is irrelevant, you don't need to know how to draw in order to criticize art! (especially considering your point is excellent)
@@Taima I think UI looks better with the modern aura, this other one is very dbz and cool for it, but it doesn't capture the feel of ultra Instinct. It makes it look like just another saiyan transformation
No, that shiny aura of ultra instinct resembles godly strength of goku in a godly state of mind and body That's why I was very disappointed in the last art these guys made His godlike fighting style wouldn't look same without that aura
I love how these LOOK like DBZ instead of what people THINK original DBZ looked like. A lot of people’s Z redraws look way too polished to be 90s anime
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I agree. I prefer the shintani style they used for the DBS broly movie. The drawings are simple. The colours are really vivid and pop out. And it allows for better and smoother animations.
The colors, shading, line art... everything looked better. Anime in general I think has developed this odd plastic/shiny and muted look over the past 2 decades
@@BananaPhoPhilly right! its missing depth and darker tone colors. im not sure if theyre aiming for a younger audience with bright colorful colors or TVs in general with today's technology. i just realized that i miss the old dragon ball. it was darker and more serious compared to today, instead they went ahead and dumb down goku. its just sad how kids are growing up too soft nowadays.
I really like how the Ultra Instinct redraw looked, since Ultra Instinct is a Technique and not a Transformation, (I'm pretty sure) the aura that looks more similar to when they flared their Ki in their base form but more violent due to the heat the technique gives off makes complete sense and brings it together, story-wise and just visually. Very pleasing.
Honestly, the new art style introduced in DBS Broly might just be Toei's signature style from now on. The design has also been applied to One Piece and it's such a joy to look at. Color pops out, the looser design helps the animators a bunch, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if the design style goes beyond Dragon Ball and One Piece to other Toei series.
@@shawnsuckstm3353 its going to sound weird, but imo the new art style makes the characters look young and not as mature. I think it works well for characters like goten and trunks, but for the majority I would rather them be drawn and animated in the Z movie era of designs where they look older and more adult-like.
@@Jsleeze9951 In my opinion, the Shintani style captures the OG classic feeling and style of Dragon Ball. But I do like Buu Saga style. P.S: Your opinión isn’t weird at all!
13:32 oh god, burn it with fire! But it's truly amazing how different DB can feel with a different color palette/scheme. Also major props to the Trunks picture at 13:49, that one is my favorite!
what I love about your "redraws" videos is how you always explain things about the art style and differences... would be easier to just trash-talk the artists, like everybody love to do when is about DBS in comparisson to DBZ... good seeing artist standing up for others artists
This video only makes DB super much worse in comparison. Now, not only we know that DBS animation SUCKS, turns out that the art style and other related choices they made is also poor. I love this video.
I just hate how so many modern anime look like plastic. Why is everyone’s face shiny? That’s why I loved the tournament of power’s look. Felt like what DBZ really would’ve been in the new era
One reason might be that it looks modern. If you browse a random selection of anime you can most likely find the once created recently by looking for this style. It might just be nothing more than a message: "Hey look this is a new product."
wow!!! Everyone did absolutely incredible but 8:52 was my favorite!! I'm a huge fan of 90's anime and I love the color pallettes back then and grainy texture to the art, instead of the clean digital and washed out look anime has nowadays.
Holly crap 14:46 that zamasu looks like the best thing I’ve ever seen. That dark glow is the way modern dbz should have gone to bring it to the next level
@@Kenar.E For real. Always confused why they made everyone so scrawny looking, this is supposed to be a story about the strongest fighters and entities of the entire universe and beyond
Can't wait to see this art all over Instagram, posted by an infinite amount of DB pages that are copying each other In all seriousness, this is some outstanding work
probably not because how they made anime back then had a lot of different components thrown into it that took a lot of time. Knowing corporations they don’t like taking their time
I didn't have a problem with the art style in the ToP or Broly movie, but I definitely had a problem with the artstyle in the first few arcs. I'm just glad it improved.
I've always thought Z looked better, although super definitely got a lot better around the ToP arc. I'm not a huge fan of the really heavy lines they use in ToP but at least it is distinctive and it looked better than the early stuff (even the rushed schedule aside). Mark did some really great work here picking up on some of the reasons *why* I like Z more - things I probably couldn't have picked up on myself. Funnily enough, one of the things it really makes me ache for is for them to finally release a high quality version with the English dub (including score). Dragon boxes with at least the option for funimation dubs and Faulconer score, *please*.
These stills are absolutely magical. Hats off to you guys. Yall captured the vicious essence of Z while properly troubleshooting the issues with bringing the art style forward. 11/10.
looks like a layer of noise, a transparent grunge texture set to about 5% opacity, and 3-4 passes that target tone and color balance. Specifically bumping up the blacks and muting some of the colors on the brighter end of the spectrum. All totally doable with adjustment layers, just gotta poke at it till you get "the look" right.
I love that drawing of Frost, because it makes him look as evil as he actually is. The way frost was drawn in the anime isn't bad but he didn't look evil to me. Your drawing of him also gives him that evil tone but doesn't make him look as evil as Frieza which is good because I think we can all agree that Frieza is way more evil than Frost
Frost not "looking" evil might've been the original intention. I mean, remember, when we're first introduced to him, he's presented as a good person, the exact opposite of Frieza. Sure, later we find out he's a scumbag just like Frieza, but when we're initially introduced, he's pretending to be a good guy because that's the persona he puts on for Universe 6.
@@beancheesedip8337 but that's when he is in his first few forms, once he gets in his final form, it's revealed that he is evil, so I feel like he should look evil in his final form
@@toastytuber3596 fair enough, I was just saying that I think the original intention might've been to subvert the audience expectation, but I see what you're saying.
"Never in my life have I needed something so much and never known until I received it." What I wouldn't give to see the whole DBS series in this art style...
All i want before i go from this planet for ever is an AI that can transform the entire dragon ball series to a certain style, specially Super to the greatest Z episodes.
15:02 I think the reason these Saiyans were skinny was because of the background they were given. IN their universe, universe 6, the Saiyans were more peacekeepers than warriors. A more relaxed lifestyle due to not having to be conditioned by Frieza and bloodline before. Because in their universe Frost is "leading the universe to peace" or something. When in reality, compared to Frieza's more upfront tactics, Frost was doing underhanded deals and sort of being a background tyrant
they were peacekeepers, which means they were warriors. Just because they were pirates didn't mean they led a peaceful life, hell, they were essentially the police/army, Cabba's life was just as fraught with violence as Vegeta's, the only difference Cabba was fighting criminals and fabricated gangs, Vegeta was wiping out planets for the sake of Freeza.
Something about that old 90's look will always resonate with me, it's so good and so lively. I never realized how much the de-muscling of the cast bothered me until I got to the first Universe tournament. I know it's not the end of the world but something about seeing the whole cast with bodies made for fighting as well as the old color pallets used for DBS : Broly really brings back the kinetic power in each shot and frame. Also THANK YOU for aging Trunks and Goten, I can't stand them still looking like small children with the years passing.
11:49 I love how even though it was Capcom who was influenced by Akira Toriyama; Capcom has delivered some of the most iconic and timeless sound effects to ever exist which are used in almost every content creators' soundbank. Including Toei. That chime was Megaman X5's Start screen. X's 1st armor was heavily influenced by Saiyan/ Frieza Force armor, same goes for alot of the concept art at the time.
Perfect re-designs for every single pic. Z's style is Zeno level, while Super's is Oolong level. I was born in '92, so as a little kid in the late 90s I grew up watching Z and thinking about how cool it looked stylistically. Was hyped when Super was announced years back, but seeing the art style change to make everyone look like cheap knockoff action figures of themselves really disappointed me. Yeah the story wasn't great in Super, but the style that made the series as popular as it is would have dramatically softened the blow for me.
Yup Super was a dissapointment in all the episodes only 3. Were amazingly done. And by that i mean not like a few scenes but the entire episode. And all 3 were in the ToP.
@@shotto_z4790 Yeah I know, just lamenting how bad most of Super from the beginning up to the end of the T.O.P. was. I like what they're doing in the Granola arc
I just want muscles. The grainy, gritty look you talked about would be a close second, but if they insist on everything being bright and shiny, I at least want characters with muscles.
Tbh I think its more about getting the right proportions and the scale of the physique right. Dbz had muscles but they much very aesthetically pleasing because they paid attention to symmetry and proportion of the physique.
The colours have always been my biggest gripe with Dragon Ball Super's art style. I felt so validated when you made it a recurring theme in the video haha.
All of you are incredible artists and each approach achieved the 90's style almost perfectly, great job! Regarding the coloring in Super, I think that the very bright and vibrant style is a thing that a lot of new animes are falling into, for example, the new shaman king anime looks extremely bright to me and that ends up being a little distracting. I would love if in new anime they used more filters to make it a little darker, more pleasing to the eyes (so many people like 90's anime aesthetics for this reason)
Not gonna lie, the DBZ artstyle looks awesome compared to what we got in super, the Broly movie was pretty lit tho and it actually had pretty damn good animation and art, unlike many episodes in the super series which kinda threw me off a lot, it would look much better in this old artstyle
2:25 it was explained in db that saiyan stays kids for a long time and then suddenly there growth sprouts explodes and they grow up faster, and also they dont age fast too.
@@davidmicheaels343 the start was.... But by the end it got better... But still z had better art style!(note the art style was better but animation is better in super.)
@@shreybhardwaj6137 I can't even say the animation is better even if it probably is. I'm no expert but I liked how the characters moved in the OG and DBZ more then in super.
I'm amazed by the work you did on colors, I never spotted such a difference. One of the big missing for me is the scratches and blood cuts, like when Majin Vegeta is talking to Goku about family and love, both are full of little details like plenty of scratches on the face, body.... All this is really missing in DBS, even after very tough fights, they don't seems hurt.
I know the animation is a major downgrade but don't miss out on some incredible iconic moments of super it's not worth entirely skipping if you want to watch less then just watch the first 2 movies then jump into the universe 6 vs 7 arc trust me it's not worth skipping entirely just because of animation
My god, ITS BEAUTIFUL! It looks exactly how I’d imagined super would look like if it had dbz color scheme. I really like it, much more than the original super art style
@@Amirifiz interesting but not preferred for me. The blue hair with blue eyebrows and blue eyes were too much for me, he looked too plain. That light purple felt unique
4:48 Props to you for this, most of these types of videos shit on super hard, so it’s glad to see people making it clear that it’s just to admire that classic 90’a style, and consider how it’d look in this modern age of animation :)
Yeah that’s what I like about mark is that he’s fair and even when he gets stuff wrong he apologises and makes up for it. I think a good example would be the series of videos similar to this which where about fixing some bad art in super and explaining why that happened.
Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. There’s just something more lively about the original Dragon Ball Z style. It looks more warm, more (as weird as this sounds) life like. Ever since Yo! Son Goku And His Friends Return and Hatchiyack, the art is more crisp, but doesn’t look as lively. Idk maybe it’s just me.
I thought Broly just looked better because it was a movie that they had put more time and resources into......dang, that one change makes such a difference
To emulate the impotent aura of UI in the old style. You could add the rainbow sparkles used when Gogeta killed Janemba. I think that would make it look epic.
Nah,I disagree completely,the aura in Super look way more intimidating,this aura is too simple and just looks like Ultimate Gohan’s aura but they tried 🤷♂️
To be honest it kinda didn't deliver that much, ultra instinct's aura is supposed to be different, like veryyyyyy different than other auras that takes a traditional spiky outline. I think it looks good, but it should've looked more special, like a bit of lightning here and there
While it's not cannon, they did show what SSJ Kaioken in Z would look like when Goku fought Pikkon. The Kaioken aura completely covers up the SSJ aura in that instance so technically there would be no blue showing here.
You guys made me remember where we all came from and how far we come with this series. Love you for that, all the characters looked amazing and definitely hit the mark👏👏
This video really puts into perspective how much the series and Toriyama's art style in general has changed over the years. Maybe it's just nostalgia, but I must say this era of art is my favorite the series has ever looked. DBS: Broly was the best bit of Dragonball animation we've had in years, just amazing to watch the whole time, even the calm scenes. The characters were way too skinny and cartoony in Super to me, I legit had no idea Goten and Trunks were supposed to be preteens, they look like 5 year olds as stated in the video. And Gohan looks like he reverted back to his preteen days, wtf? Great work on the vid guys, the art was awesome and I wish they'd go back to the DBZ or even DBS: Broly style again.
All of this looks incredible, the only complaint I have about the art work is the ultra instinct goku aura. I feel that the man himself is drawn to perfection, but the aura doesn't seem as over the top as I feel it should've, maybe something similar to the original super saiyan transformation would've been better, I don't know. Keep up the amazing work!
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Leave suggestions for what you want us to draw next time!!!!
Jojo characters.
Please make a review series for dragon ball z.
Draw original dragon ball in super style
please do black clover or full metal alchemist as your next set of reviews please also your an awsome youtuber
One punch man
One Piece characters in Dragon Ball style or vice versa. Also Jojo characters as well.
bro every single design you guys did was a home run
What do you mean please explain me
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The Goku Black was the only meh one
@@mathieul4303 Yeah his chin was a little too big for me
God that 80s-90s Anime Aesthetic will always be the GOAT look for DragonBall. While I love the Broly movie's art Honestly whenever Im lookin thru all the amazing art of that era it makes me wish current DragonBall pulled what MegaloBox did, where they kept a 90s Aesthetic but w/ Modern work done to amplify it. Great Video!
I honestly love the broly movie art the best but 90s is definitely second
I would love if Mark made a video about the Gacha game Dbz Dokkan battle. As the animation are crazy good in that game.
always cool seeing youtubers i like supporting each other!!
@@ashvac9316 Same; It's the fluidity for me.
@@ashvac9316 I would be willing to bet that if the older DB and DBZ animations were as fluid as Broly that your opinion would sway the other way.
I'm so amazed realizing how color choice made huge difference to the overall aesthetic of Super, like you mean we could've had much more if it wasn't for the direction of colors.
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It deffinetly would have been smoother, by how much it's hard to tell due to the time crunch
that fixed Gohan hits me right in the feels, man. My boy deserved better than how they did him! ;_;
He was a perfect mix in GT
I hope the movie doesn't become a Goku movie, everything there is perfect for Gohan, also, they should have ditched the Goku clothes in Gohan at the end of super, he should have participated with the Saiyaman costume, something so basic about the character and they got it wrong.
@@alenasenie6928 never really cared for Great Saiyaman, thought it was a little too corny by half.. but the green and black wasn't bad. I like him in his orange or purple uniforms.
@@alenasenie6928 it's definitely not a goku movie at all dude. Straight piccolo/Gohan. I guess you haven't seen it yet.. pretty dope.
@@alenasenie6928 u should watch it.
"The aim is to make a buffer saiyan woman." Proceed.
Yeees, make up for their lack of charather with muscular tights
Saiyan women should always have been buffed up versions of human women in the same way Saiyan males were to human males
Ah, Plague's children get their due treatment.
@@johnnysake8052 Your daughters gotta have that super snusnu power.
Seriously, they look like runway models and then proceed to go full broly with Kale
All I wanted was for the Saiyan women to at least look like tomboy Videl.... Which is best Videl
That Caulifla is fire. She don't even look like the same character, I'd argue she even looks waay better than the original.
I like the super look better for caulifla
@@TxCoby Same. I wish they were more faithful to her physical design.
I couldnt disagree more. His version of caulifla looked HORRIBLE. Literally disgusts me. Caulifla and kefla are my two favorite characters introduced into super. The fact that he increased her mass is just a deal break entirely for me. His interpretation of caulifla is shameful at best in my opinion.
@@EpicBongZilla Kale and Caulifla being some of your favorite characters translated the value of your opinion to litteraly nothing, like nobody cares
@@skylerhickman3646 Man cant read.. but somehow thinks he has the ability determine the value of opinions.
Lester Green out here
Man, if DB still looked like this, I’d keep watching!! 😭😭😩😩
Maybe if they did one I try to pay the whole fund for these AJ team and if if only they got the IP to it
It takes more than art style to improve the direction of current Super, just read the manga and you'll constantly raise your eyebrows, roll your eyes and scratch your head with the questionable take in the Moro and Granola arc
Yeah I would like that too especially for other animes as well but like all things they must change and evolve at some point. The old must go so the new can flourish
@@ChicaneMedia old better things don’t have to go for new crappy things. If you can’t improve, don’t mess with it.
@@Moshuun if it ain’t broke don’t fix it
Imagine if the whole series looked like this.
It's gonna be great
This is why I mostly watch 90's anime. Don't get me wrong there are very nice modern artstyle's out there but they are rare. To much computer generated art destroys the experience for me. Maybe if I grew up with it I wouldn't notice but I grew up with oldschool sadly I can't bring myselve to like Super. Maybe if the story was good but that's not the case either.
it'd be shit tbh
@@vegeets3710 not really
@@silentslayergaming8469 actually he's right I honestly think a mix of DBZS & Dbz would be the best mix a Newer animation with an older style like the physique & Expressions of Dbz & Expressions & Physique of Super
fighting scenes for Dbz Physique resting Physique for Dbzs or just have specific snap shots for old Dbz Physique every now & then When Emphasised on the Body
while fighting Expressions of Dbz mixed with Dbzs to make more expressive depending have more older Dbz Expressions than Super but depending on the scene more Super Expressions other than that more shading Closer to OG DBZ & Better lighting for Characters
They had to nerf Ajay by making him use a tablet instead of a mouse, too much power for a single man haha
Great video! I love seeing cool art
Mmmmmmm...I think I had a trouser accident. Dang that filter is too powerful to exist!
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The aura issue was really interesting to see broken down. I personally really like that the auras for the newer, godly forms are heavier and thicker. It always gave me a sense that the energy was more powerful, or perhaps “more concentrated” is a better way of putting it. However, even I can admit that Super definitely went overboard with them, Ultra Instinct being the prime example. I think the approach taken of more classic aura designs with a large variation in colors compared to the classics worked well… to a point. SSJB Kaio Ken easily looked the best in my opinion, Goku Black’s looked good, the little we saw of Trunks was alright, but Ultra Instinct… Personally, I think the redone UI aura was an example of going too far in the other direction. It was made so simplistic, that it really did just look like a standard SSJ aura colored different. For better or worse, UI has one of the most unique auras in the series, and losing all of those unique qualities leaves me feeling more than a little disappointed. Even a different design for the energy outline would’ve helped it feel more distinct, but instead we got “SSJ aura but white.” I can’t help but feel like there was some missed opportunity here, I don’t know.
TL;DR, someone with no art skills rambles about art.
Underrated comment tbh, brings out a bunch of points
Wait why am I saying this is underrated
This video was uploaded like a few hours ago of course most comments wouldn't be seen
@@justposeidon3810 appreciate the sentiment regardless.
I totally agree with you! Personally for me the best thing about the whole Super design choices is the auras, I know they tend to be lackluster in execution but the effort they went through to differentiate then is at least worth nothing, the fire of the SSGod, the comet-like particles of the UI omen, or the eerie aura of SSRose are small details that I really enjoyed and praise from time to time, I think it helps A LOT to make the transformations feel different, just like back on the day when SS2 had a lot more sparks than SS1.
that last point about drawing skills is irrelevant, you don't need to know how to draw in order to criticize art! (especially considering your point is excellent)
I'd pay good money to be able to rewatch Dragon Super with this art. Nostalgic!
We should start a petition for them to do such that.
I am sure AI will give us that one day
Did you not watch the video he explains that the art style has been the same since the beginning the only difference is colors
@@MariusNinjai Not possible I'm afraid, it would look better but still look digital.
@@juanalonso8149uhh no the character design is far different.. almost everyone is skinny unlike the buff dbz characters.
That oldschool UI really is a showstopper, it really makes you wish they stuck to that style. That look really captures the heart and soul of DBZ.
I thought that UI and Zamasu looked great, but SSBK was surprisingly a little disappointing.
@@Taima yup
@@Taima I think UI looks better with the modern aura, this other one is very dbz and cool for it, but it doesn't capture the feel of ultra Instinct. It makes it look like just another saiyan transformation
No, that shiny aura of ultra instinct resembles godly strength of goku in a godly state of mind and body
That's why I was very disappointed in the last art these guys made
His godlike fighting style wouldn't look same without that aura
@@calm6959 I agree but I would say that it's not a state of mind and body but a state where the body thinks for itself by itself.
Absolutely exceptional work.
Everything looked awesome except that caulifla, I really liked the rage trunks!
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I love how these LOOK like DBZ instead of what people THINK original DBZ looked like. A lot of people’s Z redraws look way too polished to be 90s anime
Seriously have you looked at the last movies DBZ in the 90s, like Fusion reborn/ wrath of the Dragon and Broly’s return ? They would absolutely feat
Kid buu arc of dbz had a really polished art style
@@_lean17_ yeah, but it still looked like 90s anime, which this video captured perfectly
Exactly thats why kai sucks to me
@@ME6ATURTLE DBZ was way ahead of it's time in terms of art style. The later arcs and movies could genuinely pass as early 2000s
13:49 my personal favorite.. brings me back to when trunks and goku first met and both transformed into super saiyans! 🔥
AJ Underrated
The problem with DBS' animation is that IMO it's too shiny and glossy looking.
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I agree. I prefer the shintani style they used for the DBS broly movie. The drawings are simple. The colours are really vivid and pop out. And it allows for better and smoother animations.
"FLAT" is exactly how I'd describe Super's art style. Its actually sad to see the comparisons, what could of been...
@Rellyali1987 "the last episodes" so he's not wrong then bruv 🗿, a few episodes doesn't make a big difference.
Imagen if a small group of fans reanimated all the episodes of DBS to look like it was made in the 90s
I think it's to shiny as well
@@crapcase3985 I'm pretty sure he means Goku Black and The TOP, which is a fairly big chunk of the anime, the 1st 3 arcs do look a bit flat though
@@willow7610 he said episodes, not arcs.
I kinda didn’t realize how much I miss the old dbz style it’s awesome great job to all my favorite drawing is probably the Kalifla one
A lot of people hate it for some reason. 🤨
Well which one are you talking about?
The colors, shading, line art... everything looked better. Anime in general I think has developed this odd plastic/shiny and muted look over the past 2 decades
@@BananaPhoPhilly right! its missing depth and darker tone colors. im not sure if theyre aiming for a younger audience with bright colorful colors or TVs in general with today's technology. i just realized that i miss the old dragon ball. it was darker and more serious compared to today, instead they went ahead and dumb down goku. its just sad how kids are growing up too soft nowadays.
@@b0xE_ yeah I agree, hate the new art style
I really like how the Ultra Instinct redraw looked, since Ultra Instinct is a Technique and not a Transformation, (I'm pretty sure) the aura that looks more similar to when they flared their Ki in their base form but more violent due to the heat the technique gives off makes complete sense and brings it together, story-wise and just visually. Very pleasing.
Mastered ultra instinct does not give off any heat...
3:07 "I kept the clothes the same, which meant Goten looked like-" *DETECTIVE CONAN MUSIC*
Now THAT is comedic timing at it's finest.
Such beautiful work! I love the style!!!!
@Fax imma assume this is self advert
Honestly, the new art style introduced in DBS Broly might just be Toei's signature style from now on. The design has also been applied to One Piece and it's such a joy to look at. Color pops out, the looser design helps the animators a bunch, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if the design style goes beyond Dragon Ball and One Piece to other Toei series.
Yeah, I really love that art style, hope it's used in more shows in general, looks so nice
Im Personally not a fan of shintanis style
@@shawnsuckstm3353 its going to sound weird, but imo the new art style makes the characters look young and not as mature. I think it works well for characters like goten and trunks, but for the majority I would rather them be drawn and animated in the Z movie era of designs where they look older and more adult-like.
@@Jsleeze9951
In my opinion, the Shintani style captures the OG classic feeling and style of Dragon Ball. But I do like Buu Saga style.
P.S: Your opinión isn’t weird at all!
@@Jsleeze9951 you too huh😅
13:32 oh god, burn it with fire! But it's truly amazing how different DB can feel with a different color palette/scheme. Also major props to the Trunks picture at 13:49, that one is my favorite!
what I love about your "redraws" videos is how you always explain things about the art style and differences... would be easier to just trash-talk the artists, like everybody love to do when is about DBS in comparisson to DBZ... good seeing artist standing up for others artists
The dude doesn't wants to be cancelled bro. Just.
This video only makes DB super much worse in comparison. Now, not only we know that DBS animation SUCKS, turns out that the art style and other related choices they made is also poor. I love this video.
Turning Dragonball Gt into Super next?
Why would you wanna ruin GT like that
@@thaisennj9781 I was curious what it would look like
@@Daniel-vv2nf not really it's on par with super only slightly above it
@@thaisennj9781 preach. GT looked amazing, and i will die on this hill
@@JetblackJay In my opinion GT was able to achieve more than Super
I just hate how so many modern anime look like plastic. Why is everyone’s face shiny?
That’s why I loved the tournament of power’s look. Felt like what DBZ really would’ve been in the new era
Fr and how they all have round faces and feel like they were drawn with colors its hella wack
One reason might be that it looks modern. If you browse a random selection of anime you can most likely find the once created recently by looking for this style. It might just be nothing more than a message: "Hey look this is a new product."
Nah, the ToP look looked way too digital with its black shading everywhere.
@@turbotrup96 digital is a real artstyle get used to it.
@@wolfhead-hx2mn yuck
wow!!! Everyone did absolutely incredible but 8:52 was my favorite!! I'm a huge fan of 90's anime and I love the color pallettes back then and grainy texture to the art, instead of the clean digital and washed out look anime has nowadays.
Holly crap 14:46 that zamasu looks like the best thing I’ve ever seen. That dark glow is the way modern dbz should have gone to bring it to the next level
He looks actually scary.
@@Kenar.E For real. Always confused why they made everyone so scrawny looking, this is supposed to be a story about the strongest fighters and entities of the entire universe and beyond
@@Kenar.E yeah imagine this fight with blood 🔥
@@dyrex9143 plus inf zamasu clones, god it will be scaaaary. 😬
They all look fantastic, but that SSB Kaioken looks incredible, hats off to all of you
Its a bit harsh but I kind of hate the one that is in super now 😅😅😅
Yeah me too the old style looks ways better
@@giovannileymeister3895 nah dbz one doesnt fit blue at all
Can't wait to see this art all over Instagram, posted by an infinite amount of DB pages that are copying each other
In all seriousness, this is some outstanding work
Oh yeah.. With the caption being like "which style do you prefer? Super or Z ?"
there is nothing that I dispise more than DB IG fandom
@@aangga.ranggasa And below would be a bunch of unrelated hashtags and "FOLLOW FOR MORE"
This is amazing, can we ever get back to this era of animation??
Maybe but with how hard it is to make this era of animation toe will probablly never go back to it.
probably not because how they made anime back then had a lot of different components thrown into it that took a lot of time. Knowing corporations they don’t like taking their time
This was super cool. While I never had a problem with Super’s art style, the differences between it and Z is striking.
I didn't have a problem with the art style in the ToP or Broly movie, but I definitely had a problem with the artstyle in the first few arcs. I'm just glad it improved.
@@jantheking7028 at least the animation will be better in dbs season 2
I've always thought Z looked better, although super definitely got a lot better around the ToP arc. I'm not a huge fan of the really heavy lines they use in ToP but at least it is distinctive and it looked better than the early stuff (even the rushed schedule aside). Mark did some really great work here picking up on some of the reasons *why* I like Z more - things I probably couldn't have picked up on myself.
Funnily enough, one of the things it really makes me ache for is for them to finally release a high quality version with the English dub (including score). Dragon boxes with at least the option for funimation dubs and Faulconer score, *please*.
These stills are absolutely magical. Hats off to you guys. Yall captured the vicious essence of Z while properly troubleshooting the issues with bringing the art style forward. 11/10.
Could we possibly get a tutorial for making a DBZ filter and generally mimicking the overall style?
Yes please
Probably has one on youtube but you know, better to see it by a professional
Someone needs to apply that filter throughout the DBS series. Now THAT would be awesome.
looks like a layer of noise, a transparent grunge texture set to about 5% opacity, and 3-4 passes that target tone and color balance. Specifically bumping up the blacks and muting some of the colors on the brighter end of the spectrum. All totally doable with adjustment layers, just gotta poke at it till you get "the look" right.
@@Ketsuegg I want to know what adjustments to make not ‘poke around’
The art style is perfect! I personally love how the shading is. It shows the og db style that is perfect. I wish they wouldnt change the look.
Bruh, y'all gotta do this more often, 18 minutes ain't enough!
Can't wait till next week!
I love that drawing of Frost, because it makes him look as evil as he actually is. The way frost was drawn in the anime isn't bad but he didn't look evil to me. Your drawing of him also gives him that evil tone but doesn't make him look as evil as Frieza which is good because I think we can all agree that Frieza is way more evil than Frost
Frost not "looking" evil might've been the original intention. I mean, remember, when we're first introduced to him, he's presented as a good person, the exact opposite of Frieza. Sure, later we find out he's a scumbag just like Frieza, but when we're initially introduced, he's pretending to be a good guy because that's the persona he puts on for Universe 6.
@@beancheesedip8337 but that's when he is in his first few forms, once he gets in his final form, it's revealed that he is evil, so I feel like he should look evil in his final form
@@toastytuber3596 fair enough, I was just saying that I think the original intention might've been to subvert the audience expectation, but I see what you're saying.
Frost not looking evil was the aim since he was helping others in his universe
@@ioriyagami347 in his first forms I'm talking about his final form
This video is actually pretty educational. I've learned a lot more about art itself and how animated shows do all this hard work
"Never in my life have I needed something so much and never known until I received it." What I wouldn't give to see the whole DBS series in this art style...
I agree 100% I would love to rewatch all of super if it all looked like this.
I’m happy to see this video came back! This is one of my favorite art videos! I hope the rest of the videos return soon. We’re with you Mark!!
Same there was another video with ui goku as the thumbnail it was amazing
All i want before i go from this planet for ever is an AI that can transform the entire dragon ball series to a certain style, specially Super to the greatest Z episodes.
@Fax stop.
15:02 I think the reason these Saiyans were skinny was because of the background they were given. IN their universe, universe 6, the Saiyans were more peacekeepers than warriors. A more relaxed lifestyle due to not having to be conditioned by Frieza and bloodline before. Because in their universe Frost is "leading the universe to peace" or something. When in reality, compared to Frieza's more upfront tactics, Frost was doing underhanded deals and sort of being a background tyrant
they were peacekeepers, which means they were warriors. Just because they were pirates didn't mean they led a peaceful life, hell, they were essentially the police/army, Cabba's life was just as fraught with violence as Vegeta's, the only difference Cabba was fighting criminals and fabricated gangs, Vegeta was wiping out planets for the sake of Freeza.
Something about that old 90's look will always resonate with me, it's so good and so lively. I never realized how much the de-muscling of the cast bothered me until I got to the first Universe tournament. I know it's not the end of the world but something about seeing the whole cast with bodies made for fighting as well as the old color pallets used for DBS : Broly really brings back the kinetic power in each shot and frame.
Also THANK YOU for aging Trunks and Goten, I can't stand them still looking like small children with the years passing.
I NEED that 90's DBZ filter effect
I would have liked to see an attempt to recreate the unique "dots" of the UI aura in the classic style.
Maybe like the genkidama dots but smaller
11:49 I love how even though it was Capcom who was influenced by Akira Toriyama; Capcom has delivered some of the most iconic and timeless sound effects to ever exist which are used in almost every content creators' soundbank. Including Toei.
That chime was Megaman X5's Start screen. X's 1st armor was heavily influenced by Saiyan/ Frieza Force armor, same goes for alot of the concept art at the time.
Well, you've committed this much. Might as well redraw the entire series, team. Great work Mark and friends.
You joke but if toei reanimated the entire series in z style they would probably make a lot of money lmao.
@@moon4236 I’d definitely be down for that!
My soul is glowing. I love this new series you guys are doing, absolutely stunning designs. Especially Caulifla.... just, wow.
Perfect re-designs for every single pic. Z's style is Zeno level, while Super's is Oolong level. I was born in '92, so as a little kid in the late 90s I grew up watching Z and thinking about how cool it looked stylistically. Was hyped when Super was announced years back, but seeing the art style change to make everyone look like cheap knockoff action figures of themselves really disappointed me.
Yeah the story wasn't great in Super, but the style that made the series as popular as it is would have dramatically softened the blow for me.
Yup Super was a dissapointment in all the episodes only 3. Were amazingly done. And by that i mean not like a few scenes but the entire episode. And all 3 were in the ToP.
@@wraithking3749 All 3 episodes you're referring to were overseen by Takahashi I believe. He and Toyotaro remain the most faithful to DBZ's art style.
@@kaioken301 Yes! that that is why those 3 were amazing.
The story in these 2 new arcs is a whole loy better
@@shotto_z4790 Yeah I know, just lamenting how bad most of Super from the beginning up to the end of the T.O.P. was. I like what they're doing in the Granola arc
The "simplistic" ultra instinct just looks so good. No weird filters
As someone who is slowly entering the word of art making this has been incredibly informative. This is gonna be a great series :)
I just want muscles. The grainy, gritty look you talked about would be a close second, but if they insist on everything being bright and shiny, I at least want characters with muscles.
This is dragon ball not jojo
@@BeWaReJay *are you domb*
Tbh I think its more about getting the right proportions and the scale of the physique right. Dbz had muscles but they much very aesthetically pleasing because they paid attention to symmetry and proportion of the physique.
@@BeWaReJay i recommend watching dragon ball before commenting that
@@rouhsifbenschop7074 It was a joke, apparently when I commented that it got deleted
2:31
**respectively, not respectfully.
It's ok, I make that mistake too sometimes.
This is legitimately one of the best original ideas for a video I've ever seen all of the images came out great
The colours have always been my biggest gripe with Dragon Ball Super's art style. I felt so validated when you made it a recurring theme in the video haha.
All of you are incredible artists and each approach achieved the 90's style almost perfectly, great job! Regarding the coloring in Super, I think that the very bright and vibrant style is a thing that a lot of new animes are falling into, for example, the new shaman king anime looks extremely bright to me and that ends up being a little distracting. I would love if in new anime they used more filters to make it a little darker, more pleasing to the eyes (so many people like 90's anime aesthetics for this reason)
Not gonna lie, the DBZ artstyle looks awesome compared to what we got in super, the Broly movie was pretty lit tho and it actually had pretty damn good animation and art, unlike many episodes in the super series which kinda threw me off a lot, it would look much better in this old artstyle
2:25 it was explained in db that saiyan stays kids for a long time and then suddenly there growth sprouts explodes and they grow up faster, and also they dont age fast too.
I like how this video isn't saying "Look at how bad Super is" or "Look at how bad Z is." It's just showing a shift in styles and it's pretty cool.
they don't even need to say it,everyone knows how bad super is.
@@davidmicheaels343 the start was.... But by the end it got better... But still z had better art style!(note the art style was better but animation is better in super.)
@@shreybhardwaj6137 exactly
@@shreybhardwaj6137 I can't even say the animation is better even if it probably is. I'm no expert but I liked how the characters moved in the OG and DBZ more then in super.
@@90sprinceofcrime67 hmm opinion differ but it's due to development in technology that animation has improved.
I'm honestly a really big fan of Caulifla's design, but even I can't deny that redraw was pretty great.
Right!!!
Merged Zamasu looks AMAZING, he looks much more intimidating than the original imo
I'm amazed by the work you did on colors, I never spotted such a difference. One of the big missing for me is the scratches and blood cuts, like when Majin Vegeta is talking to Goku about family and love, both are full of little details like plenty of scratches on the face, body.... All this is really missing in DBS, even after very tough fights, they don't seems hurt.
Oh my god it's just sogorgeous! ALL OF THEM. And It's reinforcing why I'll never watch Super, I know my preference.
I know the animation is a major downgrade but don't miss out on some incredible iconic moments of super it's not worth entirely skipping if you want to watch less then just watch the first 2 movies then jump into the universe 6 vs 7 arc trust me it's not worth skipping entirely just because of animation
@Minh Le yes the art but he should really watch Super it has some excellent moments
@@freezasama5802 I disagree. There really isn't anything noteworthy in Super except Frieza gets kind of redeemed.
@@devinbaird2470 why do you watch this channel if you hate Super?
@@freezasama5802 Oh dang! I forgot this is a Dragonball Super channel. 😏
Man they all look so awesome. I wish the series was remastered in that styling, so I might actually be able to watch it.
would be tons of job man, new art style is like a bunch of fried chips
@@angelyanik4460 well at least they'd eventually have something good to show then. But wdym with "fried chips"?
@@nowonmetube junky art
Say ur just picky
@@pastjdzz I'm picky, because I want quality. If you say so.
My god, ITS BEAUTIFUL! It looks exactly how I’d imagined super would look like if it had dbz color scheme. I really like it, much more than the original super art style
That KiaoKen Blue rendition is absolutely gorgeous.
The texture filter added was an EXCELLENT addition. It really pulled these all together!!
This is absolutely incredible… I’m speechless. Seeing the old z style always brings me back to my childhood, thanks so much for making this video
I love how the biggest fix to the Trunks still wasn't the colors but swapping out his dumb "W" super hair for Z's more wild approach.
Everything about trunks’ design in dbs was off. The W hair, blue hair, being hella skinny
@@tjbeast6020 I don't mind the blue hair. Its interesting to see imo.
@@Amirifiz interesting but not preferred for me. The blue hair with blue eyebrows and blue eyes were too much for me, he looked too plain. That light purple felt unique
5:58 That Frost is awesome!
Mark's sponser skits are actually the best thing to ever be on this planet
Frost in 90's style looks so cool. Good job, Mark!
This video even made me emotional. The artwork as so beautiful and it really got me missing classic dbz.
Well done artists!
The only person who’s allowed to “fix” art (insert Twitter images), because he actually does good work with it.
4:48 Props to you for this, most of these types of videos shit on super hard, so it’s glad to see people making it clear that it’s just to admire that classic 90’a style, and consider how it’d look in this modern age of animation :)
Yeah that’s what I like about mark is that he’s fair and even when he gets stuff wrong he apologises and makes up for it. I think a good example would be the series of videos similar to this which where about fixing some bad art in super and explaining why that happened.
His redemption arc is real lol, started his channel out by dumping on super and this is what he’s doing now
Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. There’s just something more lively about the original Dragon Ball Z style.
It looks more warm, more (as weird as this sounds) life like. Ever since Yo! Son Goku And His Friends Return and Hatchiyack, the art is more crisp, but doesn’t look as lively. Idk maybe it’s just me.
I thought Broly just looked better because it was a movie that they had put more time and resources into......dang, that one change makes such a difference
That's what happens when they don't rush shit.
@@Darth_Xionn did u not read that? It wasn’t just cause of time, it was stylistic differences
To emulate the impotent aura of UI in the old style. You could add the rainbow sparkles used when Gogeta killed Janemba. I think that would make it look epic.
17:06 hands down looks better than dbs ultra instinct! The more “simpler” aura is MUCH better suited for db.
I mean it’s nice but I still can’t help but love the lines going down and up in his super aura. That sells it for me a lot.
Nah,I disagree completely,the aura in Super look way more intimidating,this aura is too simple and just looks like Ultimate Gohan’s aura but they tried 🤷♂️
To each their own I guess. I honestly think this looks like they took 20 years away from it in the worst way.
not even close compaired to dbs, dbs is way better at showing the angelic feel that ki just looks like every day ki
To be honest it kinda didn't deliver that much, ultra instinct's aura is supposed to be different, like veryyyyyy different than other auras that takes a traditional spiky outline. I think it looks good, but it should've looked more special, like a bit of lightning here and there
That Frost drawing looks truly amazing
I was thinking, "wow, I can't believe I missed this video from Mark," then realised it JUST dropped.
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
13:45 HELL YEAH...THAT'S the DBZ i know...holy smokes...
AJAY fucking brought me back...holy shit...EXCELLENT WORK...wow...so impressed...
While it's not cannon, they did show what SSJ Kaioken in Z would look like when Goku fought Pikkon. The Kaioken aura completely covers up the SSJ aura in that instance so technically there would be no blue showing here.
Well blue has a larger and more overpowering aura so it’s plausible that it’s still visible
So far the only one I didn’t like the change was the Blue Kaioken aura, love the artwork more though
You guys made me remember where we all came from and how far we come with this series. Love you for that, all the characters looked amazing and definitely hit the mark👏👏
hit the ____ .. see what you did there 😼👍🏼
This video really puts into perspective how much the series and Toriyama's art style in general has changed over the years. Maybe it's just nostalgia, but I must say this era of art is my favorite the series has ever looked. DBS: Broly was the best bit of Dragonball animation we've had in years, just amazing to watch the whole time, even the calm scenes. The characters were way too skinny and cartoony in Super to me, I legit had no idea Goten and Trunks were supposed to be preteens, they look like 5 year olds as stated in the video. And Gohan looks like he reverted back to his preteen days, wtf? Great work on the vid guys, the art was awesome and I wish they'd go back to the DBZ or even DBS: Broly style again.
These animation transformations look amazing!! The Editors of DB Franchise ought to hire you guys!
I love the 90s style.... it feels so much more dark and mysterious
The 90s will always hold a special place in my, and everyones hearts
You guys killed the kaioken blue illustration. The ki radiating evokes that classic gundam shine if you’re familiar with that. So beautiful.
All of this looks incredible, the only complaint I have about the art work is the ultra instinct goku aura. I feel that the man himself is drawn to perfection, but the aura doesn't seem as over the top as I feel it should've, maybe something similar to the original super saiyan transformation would've been better, I don't know. Keep up the amazing work!
I would love to see more shows done today with that old 90s feel
Happy to see editor-san getting some spotlight, the man's work is always amazing!
Man, if DB still looked like this, I’d keep watching!!
PLEASE MAKE THIS A SERIES. I’ve been dreaming of Dbs scenes done in a dbz style and you guys are the professionals 💯
Don't know how many will see this but if you pause at 13:10
It gives a pretty cool blend between the two color designs.
I continue to love the Editor’s choice of PS1 Megaman X sound bites
The Trunks drawing truly does him Justice 🔥🔥🔥