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glegleglo agreed when it comes to movies and commercials usually actors and especially children go through a massive process with contracts and other legal documentation. Movies especially have strict rules on using children. Social media is like the Wild West where children have no protections.
Idon'tevenknow True. I heard that babies cannot be on set for more than 2 hours when filming (that’s why Hollywood prefers use twins or triplets when filming scenes with babies).
Park ChimMin yeah. Hollywood has very strict rules when it comes to children. They have to be in school a certain number of hours a day and they have to be supervised.
@@parkchimmin7913 Oh yeah I read about that too, the age of the child is especially important as they have to make sure not to overstress them as, unlike adults, they don't fully understand what is going on and they have to be carefully monitored when around the studio to prevent injury. They are using another person's child for a movie scene so yeah its a major lawsuit and public backlash if something happens. From what I understand (could be wrong) the child is always accompanied by someone referred to as a "studio teacher" like a guard or just someone to make sure the director is doing anything that would be harmful. Animals also have similar protections with somewhere there monitoring the crew. Its a process unlike internet videos.
Idon'tevenknow It’s really nice that they have those laws that protect young infants and animals in the film industry. Wish they could have the same thing on the Internet as well.
I would be horrified. As a millennial, I started my life without the internet, which became more prominent when I was a teenager. I always say that I am thankful social media wasn't around when I was a kid/teen. It was bad enough when my parents busted out the home videos; imagine having those moments recorded on a medium that doesn't become outdated or corrupted over time? Yikes.
Bingo. Also as a millennial (1986) I remember no internet until late 90s. And even then, it was only dial up. I could get kicked off the web if someone called our house. As 90s kids, we got to see the rise of the internet in everyday homes and the surge in technology it would produce. In many ways, we've grown up with the internet. We also used it the most in those times, shaping the culture around it by choosing the websites that would become most frequented (I'm looking at you Homestarrunnner). We had a computer lab in middle school, and classes just to learn typing. When we went online, we were already adapt to computers. That said, we didn't have exposure to social media in the same way kids do. Our long car rides were still best entertained with window staring, or if you were lucky a walkman or a gameboy. It'll be interesting to say the least to see the effects of a generation with screens consistently in their direct faces.
Apostrophe T Yeah, I started my life without the internet and I think my first encounter was when I was five on a small iPhone 4 my mom had... She downloaded some games with me, all I had was tiny tower and a little mindless game where you steered a chariot, trying to not make it fall in the river
I refuse to show or even discuss my child to anyone I don’t trust. I don’t even allow my family to discuss my child with strangers. There’s too many sick people in this world I can’t risk it.
I think it’s okay to share when it’s about you. I’m guilty of the ultrasound announcement photo and I even had maternity pictures done but there isn’t a name or birthday, newborn photo, first step, first game picture anywhere on my social media. That’s what texting is for between friends and family. As parents is our duty to protect or children and the internet is accessible to so many people we don’t know that opening the floodgates just a little let’s a whole sea of danger in IMO.
My parents used to weaponise my autism and mental health, by taking photos of me/filming me in times of distress and threatening to send it to my friends/teachers to intimidate and embarass me into ""snapping out of it"""
Some autism bloggers on here make me uncomfortable with the way they toe the line between spreading awareness and acceptance and exploitation. Many bloggers don’t have their kids explicit consent to post videos. It’s even worse when they film something personal or distressing like a meltdown.
Please protect these kids. So that when the children grow up, and start applying for schools, jobs, and scholarships, they dont have to be afraid of what pops up in a Google search. What you think is cute and funny now may make your child and your family look a bit off. At least keep up with them so that these kids have the right to control their digital foot print and take them down if they want.
Same. Luckily, my mom understood when I asked her to please stop. She thought my reasons were stupid and unreasonable, but she doesnt post many photos.
My main concern is child labor and exploitation. In a world where TH-cam fame can mean millions children are working literal full time jobs making content and trying to stay relevant. It raises so many questions like what happens when the child no longer wants to do yt? What are the psychological consequences of child being a provider for your family at such a young age? What does mean to have all your friends,family,classmates know so much of your personal life? What does it do to a childs self confidence when the views are no longer there?
That is exactly why child actors are so heavily regulated in Hollywood. There need to be regulations or even unions in place for youtubers to prevent them from exploiting their children.
Yea that line from the kid saying he didn't want to be doing it but he needs to make money for his mom was sickening. His mother should be providing for him, not the other way around.
And ‘fame’, by basically every study done on it, is deeply harmful to an individual. No matter how much you think you want it, having a self worth and value based on the approval of a fickle public creates misery. Imagine that but with a young person not yet fully capable of understanding the world or themselves. Recipe for disaster.
One of the Vloggers featured in the video was able to pay off all their student loans and move into a new house off their sponsorship and ads from their kids video. Money money money over morals and the psychology safety of their children 😞
I remember that I have this friend when she was feeling depressed or made some minor mistake her mom used to take picture and record her and post them on Facebook saying how horrible her daughter is few years later after we graduated from HS she end up having trouble in finding a part-time job because they would search for her on the internet and there are photos and videos of her from what her mom did to her. So the small life lesson is don’t do this to your child because in the future they will be struggling on finding a job and trying to apply college.
The video mention in some states children could sue their parents for posting content about them online and i kinda think about that after reading you comments :(( I hope the mother delete the already shared contents about your friend to prevent further damages!!
I don't like it when parents share negative things about their children online. I don't need to know that your child got into a fight at school today. I think sharing positive milestones is okay.
Even positive is risky.. whats good today, will be bad or offensive in the future, and society is not rational enough to even care if its a very old picture or whatever.
Same!! My uncle once shared a photo of my cousin's messy closet on his public facebook... No one wants to see that and it's probably embarrassing for the kid involved!
Yes! When you speak of your children (online as well) only speak of them in a positive way. You should be cheering on your child, not calling them names, even saying a brat is just mean really. My daughter is the best person I know, she is amazing, why would I ever want to say something bad about her? I just don't understand how people can be so mean. Taking pictures of them while they are sick too. Why would you do that? For sympathy, that is bordering on some twisted stuff, like munchausen by proxy which I have experience with from my own parent.
It gets really troublesome at times, like the whole “kids fashion” trend on Instagram. Parents literally using their children as “models” and “clothe ambassadors” 😣😣
I'm also not aware of child labor laws that protect these kids. If they're working and earning money, they should be protected by the same kinds of laws that apply to child actors and models.
If they are real performers and want to do it, it's alright. There is nothing wrong with modeling/acting careers or being ambassadors. What's wrong is forcing your child into it for your own benefit or being pageant-y about it.
When my siblings and us wanted my mum to stop posting pictures of us she says they're her pictures and we're her kids so she can do whatever. Ironically, we weren't allowed personal social media until late teen years 🙃
Same here. Even though I still love my mom, she says that my private information and "funny moments" are "her life". She even sent photos of me sleeping to her friends and posted "funny moments" of me farting to her Facebook. It's really embarrassing and makes me uncomfortable how she documents every moment of our time together and when I try to confront her, she just uses the same argument
It's already happening. There are millennials who have this awakening of realizing "Oh shit I'm 20+....what happened?" Social media has deleted rites of passage, and BECOMING who you need to be to gain access to an ADULT life. The whole thing about "adults looking for an adultier adult" is a result of millennials not being pushed to GROW up because they can remain caricatures of themselves and have it be PROFITABLE because of this social economy. The feeling of "Idk who I am" is less prominent in countries where rites of passage and elder involvement in molding teens into adulthood is a big factor of growing up. 🤷🏽♀️
@@MissedBandwagon the social dilemma has more to do with how social media was developed, and less how parents abuse it to ruin their kid's childhoods. if you havent ALREADY watched it, you SHOULD go do that.
I’ve also noticed people are photoshopping their kids.. making their skin look smooth, making their eyes huge, and I’ve even see people photoshop their kids to give them an “hourglass” shape.
I’m fine with my mom photoshopping my skin at least. Also if my mom ever posts a picture of me and somehow you find it and you see my eyelashes and think that my mom photoshopped them. No. Right now I have eyelashes so good (I’m not flexing) that strangers just say: “NIcE eYElaSHES”
It's pretty weird to think about your entire childhood being available for strangers online. I know that some youtubers even feel uncomfortable with how they grew up online even when they themselves uploaded the videos. This is kinda unrelated but I feel like people in general should either be asked permission first or their face be blurred out if they're going to be put up online. I know that in Korea, some youtubers face blur random strangers that walk behind them for their own privacy. And personally, I wish people here did that, too. Blurring strangers out of pictures and videos we put up online should be a common decency.
I mean, are children able to consent? They don't generally understand the full ramifications of their actions most of the time. In other arenas we leave it up to the parents to consent on behalf of their children, but that system is part of the reason this is a problem.
I have to disagree with you on the Korea thing. I live here in Korea and I think they over monetize things on TV. They blur out knives, people smoking, logos, people that happen to be in videos or pictures (I'm talking about if they are in a public place), they also blur out the faces of criminals on the news. Sometimes when we watch TV the whole screen is blurred except for the person they want to show. My husband is Korean and he doesn't like it and there are many here who don't like it as well. They sometimes show a picture of something on the news but blur the whole picture out. What's the point of showing the picture then? Just my opinion.
I became really self conscious about my mum taking my photos because I found out that she’s been sharing them with her friends without telling me. It made me really uncomfortable
This stuff is only amplified if the child is disabled. Disabled people will often have really private medical stuff and mental health stuff shared online without their consent.
My older sister has special needs and my little sister is a crazy social media wannabe, I don’t rarely have time on social media but when I do I don’t post much. Even though there’s so much out in the online world neither my little sister or I, post about our older sister and her medical problems because we know things like this aren’t safe on the internet. Sometimes when we do want to post about her we mostly show her looking away from the camera or when something is covering her face, I often get asked a lot about why would I need to do that and it’s not like she would know, but here’s the thing, as much as I love my older sister and want to share her on my media page, I also want to protect her from the haters, the stalkers, the creeps online, etc,etc. She may not understand it but it’s my decision to do that mostly for not wanting all the attention like every other person online showing off something that could back fire some day. Although my sister had passed away a few years back now, we don’t post her like crazy, I still want to keep my life private from everyone who comes across me, however I still mange to post tiny things about her here and there but I don’t think it’s ever going to make things different for my platform of 100+ people (I use to have 1K but my account got hacked) so yeah this is only my saying side of saying that the disables often aren’t given consent when it comes to posting things about them online.
kids have a right to privacy. privacy is a HUMAN right, kids are humans too. posting about kids should be minimal and on platforms meant to reach family, not the entire world.
There is a bias against kids because they don't have experience. People act as if they are dumb because they are kids. When really they just don't have experience...
Ms. Smith Tiffanyferg did a video about family vloggers and she mentioned one woman who stopped posting content with her children and a huge portion of her male demographic stopped watching. I’m guessing they weren’t big teddy bears who just love kids in a healthy way...
Im against parents making social media for their babies for the same reason I’m against child modelling and beauty pageants. The idea of making money off a child/profiting in other ways just doesn’t sit right with me. Like making money off a child, that’s exploitation.
I think it’s terrible for companies to judge your competence and skills as an adult for what you’re like as a kid. Everyone’s immature as a kid. They’re just kids. People mature when they get older.
I seriously doubt most companies will care about a video done when they were 4. If they do I wouldn't want to work there. Obviously the child didn't have a choice.
Thank God I was born in the 80s and never had to deal with my childhood photos and videos being plastered all over social media. Yikes, what an invasion of privacy
As a child of one of these parents I can say that it’s very frustrating. My parents over shared EVERYTHING about my life. It got to the point where they would take pictures of us (me and my two siblings) ASLEEP on the night before first day of school and then they would post them to all of their social platforms. my dad was a prominent citizen in our town so he had a lot of Facebook, Instagram, and twitter followers. And it’s not like he privatized his page, no, he left it public so ANYONE could see pictures of me and my siblings sleeping and vulnerable. It annoyed me so much and I would ask them repeatedly not to post very personal things about me because it got to the point were people would bring it up at school but they posted them anyway. If you think in any way that it is cute or funny then you have no idea. If you ARE going to do this at least privatize your page first. Because nothing messed me up more than coming to the realization that some pedophile halfway across the world could view these pictures and we would never know. be safe and realize that you should give your children a choice in all of this if they don’t want a picture posted of them then don’t post it. Because it’s always going to be on the Internet. If your going to set rules for your child on what to post about/of themselves, follow those same rules. Because now when I apply to college they’ll search up my name and it will jeopardize my chance of getting in.
"Parents" also use their children as shields on social media. They use them to deflect criticism, attacks, and any negativity. They also use their children as an excuse to do questionable acts.
I’m currently pregnant and I choosing to never post my children’s pics. Just want them to give them the luxury of privacy. Other moms may differ but that’s their choice
It's awful to say, but they don't. There's some things that ensure children have rights, but it's been established in the courts that children don't have the same rights as adults and aren't treated the same. That's why things like locker and backpack checks are legal.
@@karinagutierrez7134 The kids still have rights, yes? If so, it's just not the same. Also there is a reason backpack checks are legal (Because some parents shield their child from all stress types and then) kids shoot up schools and stab other kids (because they don't know how to handle it). It is safety to do backpack/locker checks.
Well,parents are the essentially the boss until children reach maturity 🤷🏻♀️ Otherwise,without rules and regulations the kids would be out of control. And yes,every human being has rights☝🏽BUT.They have to be mature,responsible AND respectful towards the upbringing and development of their children,and this does not include thinking it’s “cool” parenting by publicising their innocent children’s’ lives.
when I got to be 7 or 8, my parents started asking me about what I would be ok and not be ok with them posting, if it involved me. As long as I say it's ok to post something of me, they will post it. It's interesting that parents now don't do that.
But even at 8 years old you don't really realize the implications of the things that are posted... I don't think having an 8 year old's permission suddenly makes it okay either. A lot of these kids relish in being youtube stars, doesn't mean that they'll be pleased about the stuff that they do online when they're 18
Noha if a parent takes the time to discuss things like a digital foot print and a child understand and the topic is revisited each time the parents want to post (the parent and the child both thinking about what is and is not appropriate for the world to see) then I think it’s fine. If we treat children like they are idiots with no control of their life because they are perceived be too inherently stupid due to their age then you just continue a cycle that sees children as less thans who shouldn’t get a voice. Only people speaking for them.
@@VictorianRabbit3456 Sure I get your point but I don't think kids are idiots and inherently stupid at all. I just don't think they're going to understand what a digital footprint really means for their future, even if it's explained to them. They may have some understanding, but not enough to make fully educated decisions that hold serious consequences for their futures. Again, just my opinion
@@noha2401 Can confirm. I used to make sexual videos when I was 9 and posted them on youtube. They have a lot of views too. I have anxiety everyday about this now as a 18 year old.
My kids don’t have to worry about this. I will never post photos or videos of them online. And I will be that parent that signs that no media paper from their school & other events. The only people who needs to see my kids are the ones who are actually in thier lives. I don’t need to showboat.
One thing I don’t get is why parents always laugh at their kids when they say something sarcastic or sassy. You do the same thing and no one’s laughing at how cute you look.
sure it is the evolution of the child's brain and their first step into becoming a big brain but then so what? approximately 1 billion others probably did the same thing, maybe even at the same time
+Christine Elizabeth TH-cam and Facebook were *both invented in 2005* and became available for the public to use in 2006. Twitter *was invented in 2006* and became available for the public to use in the same year. Beyond these years...sigh! The massive social networks on the Internet *were really invented for people to pit against each other, only disguised as "good technology"!* *This IS 'The End Times'!*
My son watches quite a few "family vlogs". I remind him frequently that their videos are heavily edited to fit whatever narrative they are trying to portray, and that it is a full-time job for the kids involved. It breaks my heart to watch some of them -- these children are manipulated and pushed to work from a very young age for their family's prosperity and success. Isn't that child labor? Aren't there laws about that? So so sooooo many channels I've seen create ads for a variety of products aimed at children...so it ends up some youtube channels make a whole "ad" video, so along with regular commercial breaks my child watches 10 minutes of non-stop ads. How enriching. There needs to be FAR MORE REGULATION for channels that gain anything from minor's creativity and labor. Internet-famous children who have been emotionally, socially, or cognitively scarred by these productions will start recognizing what happened to them and come out saying so. Just like child actors did (before there were protections and labor laws), we will all understand what a terrible underbelly this industry has.
"there needs to be far more regulation" yeah, it's called parenting. don't let your child watch stuff that's going to turn their brain into goop if you ... know better. be.../// ?!?? a a... parent?!?!? crazy concept, huh. you're out here criticizing other parents for exploiting their kids, but you don't stop to think why you shouldn't let your own SPECTATE.
See this is why I really respect TH-camr Casey Neistat. He and his wife agreed that they don't want their kids to be as well known over the internet as he is. So he always makes sure that when he films them, he never shows their faces, even if that means blurring them.
@@bitTorrenter Well he tries to show his life and they are definitely a big part of it. And it's not like he shows them all the time. It's more like once in a while.
Vlad The Impaler same with zebrna. She only has show her kids (she has two and ones on the way) a few times in her videos just to an ice there here. She won’t ever have them in her videos until there ready and even then it gonna be slim to none. She post a little bit on Instagram but she respect her kids privacy big time and I respect that
Imagine meeting someone you never knew existed for the 1st time and they say “your acne has disappeared” because they saw your photos/ life events on your mum’s FB. YeH
As soon as we had an internet connection my mom was posting about me and i HATED it. She posted about everything on facebook from me having broken a tooth to a picture of me coming out of surgery. I hated it. I struggle with anorexia, and no doubt every time i see a picture of me someone else took i relapse. It really isnt hard to ask for their consent. You still HAVE the picture, just dont fucking post it.
this is an interesting take. i had a similar childhood and also struggled with eating disorders, both anorexia and bulimia. (im older and recovered now but) it makes perfect sense why this type of parent would raise a kid with an ED.... eating disorders are manifestations of lack of control in one's life. when you're a young person, you already can't control much about your life. you are expected to act like an adult while still being treated like a child. it's maddening. especially when the person who's supposed to take care of you, has you paranoid and insecure - because you can't relax around them, because you never know when a lens is going to be pointed at you. you have no control of your privacy! of course, you're going to take it out on yourself :( i guess i never really even stopped to have this realization for myself. i thank you. and i hope you are okay. it's been 2 years since you posted this - i hope things have gotten better for you. i hope you've recovered and broken free of your mother's grasp.
here's the impact on future generations, i'll tell you because i've LIVED it as a child : i'm 25yo, i grew alongside social media. my mother used it. in my experience, my mother was more concerned with "showcasing our relationship" than worrying about whether or not we actually had one. there was little communication (or consent) between us, and if there was it was always one sided. she dictated how i had to pose in photos, (always facing her and smiling). if the photo wasn't good (usually because she didnt like the way she looked, or usually because i had blinked from having a flash go off in my face 30x) she would make me retake them, on average: 30-40x over. it was obsessive, and ruthless. eventually, it got to the point where i would spend my free time as a teenager photoshopping her double-chin out of pictures for her to post, just so i wouldn't have to stand there with my arm hovering around her for the remainder of the "photo session". and this was just the tame side of our relationship. i have no love or respect for her now. even now, if i put every ounce of effort, patience, and tolerance i have... into seeing her on holidays - the first thing she manages to get out of me when she sees me is a picture. gotta keep up appearances. lmao. she was abusive emotionally, sometimes physically. as an adult, i've gone no contact with her a number of times. i wish it could be forever, but the rest of my family always guilts me into giving her access to my life. every time i do, i regret it. so i keep her at an extended-arm's length. to this day, she still tries to "repair" the relationship. she does this by contacting me impromptu, to try and squeeze me into her always-chaotic schedule last minute. if i bend to her will and drop everything to go see her: she will spend the entire time domineering the conversation, manipulating me into sharing information about my life, and then when i give her a LITTLE: she starts rattling off advice and her two cents that 1. i've never asked for 2. i refuse to listen to now because any time i HAVE listened to her "advice", it's gotten me in trouble or made me feel worse. nobody wants to be coerced into sharing about themselves, and then nitpicked and psychoanalyzed when they do. after i share something with her, she will no doubt share it with WHOEVER will listen. even people i don't know now, and never did. she's exploited me my ENTIRE life. in years where i've gone no contact - she would have her friends stalk me on the internet, and send her screenshots of my profile pictures. which she would then REPOST on her social media??? as if i sent them to her? needless to say, i have no interest in hanging out with someone as an adult who would quite literally force me to spend time with her when i was young. the one hobby i did do for a few years, that i was SUPER passionate about... she'll never let me forget that she was the one to "drive me most of the time". even though "most of the time" she was complaining about the smell of the farm/animals, hiding in her car, complaining about my "dirty hands", or starting fights with my instructor because of personal differences. after i stopped riding horses at 13yo, i started drinking and acting out. and that's the tame side of MY life story. TLDR - if you overshare about your child and force them to participate in your social media charade (even if you don't consider it exploitation), there's a GOOD chance they are counting the days until they turn 18.... and are no longer obligated to maintain a relationship with you.
When I was 10 to 12 years old, all I wanted to do was go back and forth to and from school. I was born in 1990, and I am so glad that social media didn’t really exist until I was in high school!
As a pre-teen the thing that i ever ever HATE that our School is that some Kids are forced to take a Picture when we have a very very Important day. AND WHEN THEY TAKE A PICTURE OF EVERY KIDS IN OUR SCHOOL, I SEE THEM ON GOOGLE AND I DON'T LIKE BEING IN SOCIAL MEDIA
Sharing a photo on Facebook for your family to see it, I think, is okay. But there should be a line drawn somewhere :/ Personally I wouldn't do it because I'd be paranoid about predators/their future.
I agree. Posting the odd picture without a high likelihood of causing embarrassment isn't a huge deal. Posting videos on TH-cam videos and blogging constantly about kids is oversharing.
Cc I agree completely, even a lot of mommy bloggers (At least the ones I watch) manage to not overshare, So I don't understand how everyone else isn't holding restraint.
I think we should be going after the predators not the parents, A parent shouldn’t be blamed for wanting to share a photo of their kid with friends/family because of a predator.
Wendy Peace I get that, but that's not the only issue about the situation. Luckily child predators are an issue that's actually taken seriously, so there's many people and honey pot sights out there to catch them : )
I've been pondering this thought when it comes to my younger family members... Their entire life will be on the web before they even have a say! I think children should be taught about information sharing at a young age, and parents should simply ask for consent. I'm quite sure most kids won't have a problem... But it should be their choice.
@Lesbian Amazon Sister hmmm that logic doesn't quite hold up. some adults even don't have the mental capacity to understand how their data is being used... yet it is still a matter of consent. I DO understand that the appeal of online celebrity status would have most kids happy to upload their lives without proper consideration... but adults do the same without ANY thought right? kids should be pushed to face reality ASAP, and taking responsibility for allowing content to be posted would be a first step. Banning parents from posting any content of kids under 13 is a bit much. I know that's not quite what you said... but that is the outcome your logic would lead to. right?
We are even careful sharing our kids pictures with our own family, because once you send or post, you have no control over the sharing forward, not to mention that you are giving rights to the sharing platform over your information. Sharing stuff online is like wide opening your house’s front door to anyone that wants to come in.
It’s also very dangerous you never know who’s monitoring you and taking interest in your children... and now they know where u live, your schedule where your children go to school etc.. it’s very dangerous
If I were a parent and it was my child I'd be very worried about predators and pedophiles looking at my children online. Like it's not something I could control, because anyone can do or see damn near anything on the internet. However I can try to prevent things like that by not posting my child online constantly
@@GreaterJan well of course there's nothing I could do about that. I can't control what thoughts go through others minds or what they decide to do with their life, only mine. Also that is different from me posting pictures of my children on the internet were anyone could witness them. Those types of things don't just go away and can be saved and shared across the web. Some random pedo in a supermarket looking at my child is not gonna affect me or the child directly. Hell it's very unlikely I'd even notice the person. However if not posting my child online is something I can control, then I'll definitely use that to my ability and not post them
Even if you post constantly, there's a difference between sharing publically (where the pictures and videos can be found on Google) and privately (which is restricted to friends and family). I agree with OP, but this is an important distinction to keep in mind.
I have a few mom friends on fb that do this. I find that parents feel entitled to their kids. It’s really gross. Consent is not just about rape, it’s everything to do with exploitation and some parents just have no boundaries.
The reason I keep all my social media private, and even then, I limit what I post. Sharing a birthday picture is one thing, but I’ve seen some absolutely crazy things from other parents, and I truly feel for their kids when they are older.
Dont forget how much this affects kids with disabilities. Their most vulnerable moments, their most embarrassing moments, things that should remain private.
This reminds me of when I worked at a bank and we were not allowed to have pictures of our family posted where the public could see them. This was so members of our family (kids) would not be kidnapped for ransom. Or posting that you are going on vacation for a week or two. Burglars love that information. I am always amazed at how much people will tell you in a grocery store in line. I'm a perfect stranger and you're telling me way too much about you, your family, your vacation, etc...
There was recently a case where the parents of some famous TH-cam kids were shown to have been abusing them behind the scenes and using the kids to make viral videos. It's important to remember that the Internet is just like everything else humans have created; it can be used, but it can also be abused and it's better to be safe than sorry when it comes to anything related to kids.
I am friends with these two parents on Facebook, they have two girls. Everyday they post over 30 pictures of their daughters, their accomplishments, vacations, and day to day lives. I have to wonder how much of their everyday lives do they spend actually loving their children and how much time do they spend doing things they can post to show others what a great family they are..it's really sickening to think a kid is taught to pose for pictures and videos every damn day!
Of course this is true. And all the burden, suffering, pain, joy, and happiness of life that comes with it -- all without consent (unless we just can't remember our pre-birth "placement" interviews).
@@MercuryRisingFast Perhaps I wasn't clear. The consent I'm talking about is the fundamental consent as to their birth. Birth (and thus life itself) is utterly and completely without consent. You imposed this life on each of your four children. I say this as a simple fact with no judgment attached to it.
@@MercuryRisingFast It's a very interesting thought experiment -- but I agree as a practical matter it's mostly moot. I like your idea about the kid effectively being an extension of their parents. But of course the kid then has to grow up dealing with all the burdens and joys of life on their own (with help, certainly, but the internal struggles, thoughts, and feelings are distinctly theirs).
This is actually a good discussion, as kids grow up with social media they will have info and data about them before they even know what social media is. For identity theft reasons that’s a major problem. Also yeah the advertisement thing is pretty scummy when you look at it in this point of view
You gotta love the parents who say they got permission from their five-year-old to post their photos and personal details about their lives. Especially the ones who insist their child is happy when they get "Likes" from strangers. A five-year-old has no clue how this could affect them in the future, and why would anyone train their child to seek approval in the form of "Likes" from strangers anyway? This is terrible parenting.
Which one adopted the autistic kid and then immediately returned him after making a big thing of it on their channel? Parents who use children as bragging props are sociopathic narcissists that I have zero respect for.
This is a point of contention between me and my ex. I consider my child’s privacy a human right I don’t have the right to violate. He doesn’t see it that way. It’s gonna come up in court.
So I know that TH-cam has blocked comments on videos with children but I think they should go further and demonetize them. I doubt that they would ever do that because TH-cam makes a lot of money off of content but I think it would be a good way to disincentivize parents who want to exploit their children for money
I’m definitely against it. It’s bad enough when your parents have photos of you in the bathtub at home, let alone online. Children have rights, and it should be their decision whether they want their private life shared. Especially amongst people with a high follower or viewing count, since you don’t know who’s looking either. Cheers to the Atlantic for making a video on something I’ve thought about so often.
This is so important and I'm so glad this is being talked about. In my case I don't have or post a lot on social media but I have people around me like my mom and mother in law that have facebook and they like to upload things. The problem comes when they upload pictures and videos of me that I don't agree with or without my consent. I've had a few arguments with them about this, I'm in my 30s but don't want my whole life on the internet. Also another huge problem is that some people don't even understand technology or the risks but they still have social media, for example they have their profile public without knowing it or if they have it private they accept and request friendships from random people they don't know. I can keep going on other stuff like this like sharing locations etc. Anyway, if I don't like this done to me I definitely don't want this for my children. Right now I don't have kids but it is one of my worries, I can already imagine the huge arguments I'll get in because I don't want that funny video of my kid uploaded... that is if I even know it is being uploaded...
I never ever share pics of my nieces online and I’ve asked my mom to start asking me if I’m okay with her posting any photo of me on her Facebook. I think young people are starting to value internet privacy whereas older people are getting too into sharing their lives.
I have a TH-cam channel, an Instagram and two kids. I’ve never even shared my children’s names online- nevermind photos of them. I didn’t grow up online & want to afford the same right of privacy to my own children. I’ve actually gotten A LOT of negative backlash due to my choice- mostly from family who think I’m “robbing THEM” of posting things of MY children. Note how they don’t take the futures of the kids into consideration- only their own desire to share or brag to their own friends & online strangers. Social media has really taken a toll on the family dynamic over the years.
I always thought it sad and frustrating when folks and friends became parents (it seemed especially prevalent with women becoming mothers) when suddenly their whooole identity became _their child(ren)_ 😳 Like, I get it. _You’re proud of them._ But you were an entire person, a whole entity with a life and interests and opinions and hobbies long before they were born. Now every profile photo is your kid. Every post. Every pic. It’s like, “hey! Are _you_ even still in there somewhere, friend??!” Or have you just morphed into your child??! Are you still really wearing your wedding dress from your wedding 8 yrs ago like it appears in your profile pic?? (Hell, Are you even still with that guy?) 🤔 It’s like becoming a parent gives rights to stop existing as an _individual._ Like you don’t have anything else to be proud of. Like you don’t have to. But you still an individual!!!! Post about _that!!_ On the flip side, I’m so impressed by people I’ve encountered, both in real life and on the internet, who have spouses and entire families that you almost didn’t even know about because of their lack of presence on their “feed”. Like, _THATS_ refreshing!!! 🙌🏻
So true it’s like that has become a lot of people’s entire identity now I’m like but who are you I understand you’re a parent and that’s phenomenal, but there are other components to you.
These people don’t realize, or comprehend that they don’t “own” their children as is understood as property or pets. They are humans and will ,or already, have their own sense of individuality. Just because it’s “their kid” does not supersede that child’s right to privacy or consent.
THANK YOU akmundra. my mother used to tell me "your body is my property until you're 18!" :') i'm only 25 now. she exploited me on social media when it was only in it's infancy. i SO BADLY wish she understood this.
Short story, my mum shared a picture of me ever since I was like in elementary school. During my year on middle school, one of the people who had crush on me confessed that he went through my mum old Facebook profile to stalk pictures of me ever since I was a child. THAT’s only one people that confessed it to me, I cannot imagine how many people had done the same as this boy did because it’s very disturbing
My Mother was never worried about predators viewing my photos when SHE posted them, but once I turned into a teenager - and compulsively sought out autonomy by posting my OWN pictures and exploiting my OWN self, then she had a huge problem with internet safety.
I despise when parents share their kids photos on the internet, and not just because I don't care if your kid said their first word or went to their first soccer training. I've had to delete photos of kids in nothing but a diaper from a facebook group I manage (that has nothing to do with children or parenthood) because the mom posting didn't see anything wrong with posting a half naked photo of her child to a group of over 100k strangers on the internet. There are predators everywhere - they can even be in your friends list and your kid doesn't need to be naked to end up on the darkest spots on the internet. Your child has a right to their privacy and safety! If you have to share photos of your child, make sure your privacy settings are on lockdown.
When my son was born I became so protective of him. I stopped making TH-cam videos because I didn’t want him online. And I rarely shared him to family on my Facebook. It’s scary I can’t protect him at all times because people are constantly making videos and taking pictures of others in public spaces.
Anything that mom or dad posts when the kids are little can bite the kids in the butt later when they get older and want to get a job or try to go to school Don't post every darn thing they do that you think is cute!! It won't always be cute!!
Parents should think more about who is looking at videos/pictures of their kids and why. I've heard that channels get fewer views from men in their 20s-40s when they stop showing their kids....which is really creepy when you think about it.
I grew up late Gen X and I would be furious if my parents decided for me what about me was published online before I was even aware enough to be able to understand what all it was, and what consequences it could have. Besides... no one cares about your kids, no one wants to see pics or videos of them.
I’ve given everyone in my life full permission to hit me as hard as they can in the nose if I ever start pulling this with my kids. I can’t count how many times I’ve begged my mum not to tell an embarrassing story about me as a little one around boyfriends and the people I hang out with - grateful all she has is words confined to a small space, surrounded by people who love me. I can’t imagine what it feels like to have your parent able to wield to a world with unknown intentions a moment they consider “so cute” that you probably already hate. Much less starting from babyhood!! This is why when I see parents refuse to exploit their children’s lives I applaud them. I can see where it would be easy to think it’s just sharing a delightful moment, but my rule of thumb is respect, always.
My 60-year-old mother (I'm 36) uses my photos on her Facebook page all the time, even as her profile pic and it annoys me. She simply cannot understand why I get annoyed. You know what's also weird? When parents comment personal information on social media. Like there was this ad about teen pregnancy and some lady commented about how she has her daughter on birth control and had "the talk," like that's random strangers' business.
I wish youtube and instagram would demonetize accounts that show children and maybe even forbid them to be public, making them private. Children are NOT here for you to exploit and work for your mortgage. I would hate to grow up these days, so I don't want to put kids in this horrendous world. I wouldnt buy them an iphone at 5 yo, they could get one at 18. They would hate me and get bullied. No thanks.
@@ipadpro9580 THEY are violating their kids' human dignity. That is a violation, man. Freedom of speech doesnt mean that you can do or express anything. It means you can express your opinion, but not offend, call names, be racist, or let your kids work for you.
my parents never ever post photos of my siblings and I on social media, despite my brother and I being 17 and my sister being 22, all with our own social media accounts. they just want to protect us.
I told people before that it is not good for children pictures on internet, plus this kind of behavior of exploration their own children is unacceptable :( No one ever listens
In my opinion kids should not have their image posted online until they are old enough to fully comprehend what the internet is and how many people can see the photos. It's not fair. As someone who was born in 1989, I have peers who have chosen to never be on social media and do their best to ensure that others don't post their photos either, or at least do so sparingly. Children have the right to privacy. You being their parent does not trump that. I find it especially disgusting when a photo says in the caption that a child asked their parent not to post it, as though it is funny to disobey someone's wishes like that.
@Lesbian Amazon Sister I feel really bad for kids today. I hope we are getting to a time now that parents stop posting everything and allow their children to form their own selves while being allowed ample privacy to do so.
@@nepadron you would think so, yet some of these parents bills are being directly paid because their 4-year-old is a cutie who doesn't know millions of people are watching their every move.
When I bring this up in my circles, the response I get is "oh I only share with my friends list. I know them all so there's nothing to worry about". In fact, in majority of the cases child abuse is done by a person known to the child/family. Yes, your kid is your pride and joy and you want to show them to the entire world.. But at what cost?
Things that are okay to post on social media including your children: - Pregnancy announcements - The first baby picture(s) - Birthdays - Vacations (after you’ve gone on the vacation) - Special achievements (winning a sports game, dance performances, etc) - Holiday pictures Things that are not okay: - Anything that could humiliate your kids in the future - Anything that you wouldn’t want posted of yourself - Anything that puts your children in danger of predators/kidnappers - Your entire life story (meaning posting everything you do with your kids with lots of detail)
My parents always post family photos with me in them, and I really wished they’d asked all of us if we’d like it on Facebook. But according to them I’m not human, so...
My parents ran a blog when I was younger, talking about our family (at the time it went from just me to me and my brother, it stopped before my sister came along), so searching the name of the blog (which was taken down) will show up baby photos of me
Discovering the term and topic of sharenting is highly enlightening. Why aren't there more articles and TV segments about this growing epidemic on our local, national, and world news?
@@ipadpro9580 it's more like Narcissistic Personality Disorder more than anything. A nice portion of old high school and college female classmates of mine are divorced. Given their sharenting habits, I can see why. LOL! In fact, I blocked and unfriended at least 1 of them because she only posts on Facebook to brag and exploit her brats and act morally superior to those of us without kids.
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The Atlantic interesting how the atlantic wants you to share your thoughts even tho they probs use data from their users for advertisers maybe...
That’s why I don’t post anything of my child online. Including ultrasound pictures.
Yes, I think it's overstating and kids deserve a little privacy
Short answer: yes
Yes
It's pretty damn gross to monetize off your kid's privacy. Some of the quotes in the video are alarming.
glegleglo agreed when it comes to movies and commercials usually actors and especially children go through a massive process with contracts and other legal documentation. Movies especially have strict rules on using children. Social media is like the Wild West where children have no protections.
Idon'tevenknow True. I heard that babies cannot be on set for more than 2 hours when filming (that’s why Hollywood prefers use twins or triplets when filming scenes with babies).
Park ChimMin yeah. Hollywood has very strict rules when it comes to children. They have to be in school a certain number of hours a day and they have to be supervised.
@@parkchimmin7913 Oh yeah I read about that too, the age of the child is especially important as they have to make sure not to overstress them as, unlike adults, they don't fully understand what is going on and they have to be carefully monitored when around the studio to prevent injury. They are using another person's child for a movie scene so yeah its a major lawsuit and public backlash if something happens. From what I understand (could be wrong) the child is always accompanied by someone referred to as a "studio teacher" like a guard or just someone to make sure the director is doing anything that would be harmful. Animals also have similar protections with somewhere there monitoring the crew. Its a process unlike internet videos.
Idon'tevenknow It’s really nice that they have those laws that protect young infants and animals in the film industry. Wish they could have the same thing on the Internet as well.
I would be horrified. As a millennial, I started my life without the internet, which became more prominent when I was a teenager. I always say that I am thankful social media wasn't around when I was a kid/teen. It was bad enough when my parents busted out the home videos; imagine having those moments recorded on a medium that doesn't become outdated or corrupted over time? Yikes.
@Oskar winters I have lost so many photos on sites that died. Once they all do who cares?
Bingo. Also as a millennial (1986) I remember no internet until late 90s. And even then, it was only dial up. I could get kicked off the web if someone called our house. As 90s kids, we got to see the rise of the internet in everyday homes and the surge in technology it would produce. In many ways, we've grown up with the internet.
We also used it the most in those times, shaping the culture around it by choosing the websites that would become most frequented (I'm looking at you Homestarrunnner). We had a computer lab in middle school, and classes just to learn typing. When we went online, we were already adapt to computers. That said, we didn't have exposure to social media in the same way kids do. Our long car rides were still best entertained with window staring, or if you were lucky a walkman or a gameboy.
It'll be interesting to say the least to see the effects of a generation with screens consistently in their direct faces.
As someone who _does_ have photos of me online, I don't care. They're not bad, they're cute. And it's nice to actually have a history of myself online
LOL I remember when my mom used to keep pictures of me in second grade to show off to people.
Apostrophe T Yeah, I started my life without the internet and I think my first encounter was when I was five on a small iPhone 4 my mom had... She downloaded some games with me, all I had was tiny tower and a little mindless game where you steered a chariot, trying to not make it fall in the river
Its ok to share a little, but god some friends who do it need to chill. I dread when their kids grow up with the amount of stuff out there.
boiwhybother Fr I get wanting to show your kid off when it’s something that’s special (winning the first game, a birthday picture, or family photo)
I refuse to show or even discuss my child to anyone I don’t trust. I don’t even allow my family to discuss my child with strangers. There’s too many sick people in this world I can’t risk it.
It's not even ok to share a little imo but y'all are psychopaths
I don't think consent-less sharing should be allowed at all! NOT EVEN A LITTLE!!!!!!!
I think it’s okay to share when it’s about you. I’m guilty of the ultrasound announcement photo and I even had maternity pictures done but there isn’t a name or birthday, newborn photo, first step, first game picture anywhere on my social media. That’s what texting is for between friends and family. As parents is our duty to protect or children and the internet is accessible to so many people we don’t know that opening the floodgates just a little let’s a whole sea of danger in IMO.
My parents used to weaponise my autism and mental health, by taking photos of me/filming me in times of distress and threatening to send it to my friends/teachers to intimidate and embarass me into ""snapping out of it"""
Holy crap. That’s definitely abusive behavior.
That’s hella toxic, I’m sorry they put you through that. You deserved better
Some autism bloggers on here make me uncomfortable with the way they toe the line between spreading awareness and acceptance and exploitation. Many bloggers don’t have their kids explicit consent to post videos. It’s even worse when they film something personal or distressing like a meltdown.
@@tomatotortilla its called a spectrum for a reason
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Please protect these kids. So that when the children grow up, and start applying for schools, jobs, and scholarships, they dont have to be afraid of what pops up in a Google search. What you think is cute and funny now may make your child and your family look a bit off. At least keep up with them so that these kids have the right to control their digital foot print and take them down if they want.
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I was so embarrassed when I joined fb a few years ago and found out my mum had been posting hundreds of photos of me since I was 8 years old.
How old are you now??
Wow I'm so glad I didn't do that to my son. I'm sorry 💛
@@eefleming2595 thanks from us teens and kids who grew up with this!!
Same. Luckily, my mom understood when I asked her to please stop. She thought my reasons were stupid and unreasonable, but she doesnt post many photos.
@@MinttMeringue Awww thanks 🍓🧁💗
My main concern is child labor and exploitation. In a world where TH-cam fame can mean millions children are working literal full time jobs making content and trying to stay relevant. It raises so many questions like what happens when the child no longer wants to do yt? What are the psychological consequences of child being a provider for your family at such a young age? What does mean to have all your friends,family,classmates know so much of your personal life? What does it do to a childs self confidence when the views are no longer there?
That is exactly why child actors are so heavily regulated in Hollywood. There need to be regulations or even unions in place for youtubers to prevent them from exploiting their children.
Nailed it. Family vloggers are sick.
Yea that line from the kid saying he didn't want to be doing it but he needs to make money for his mom was sickening. His mother should be providing for him, not the other way around.
And ‘fame’, by basically every study done on it, is deeply harmful to an individual. No matter how much you think you want it, having a self worth and value based on the approval of a fickle public creates misery. Imagine that but with a young person not yet fully capable of understanding the world or themselves. Recipe for disaster.
One of the Vloggers featured in the video was able to pay off all their student loans and move into a new house off their sponsorship and ads from their kids video. Money money money over morals and the psychology safety of their children 😞
I remember that I have this friend when she was feeling depressed or made some minor mistake her mom used to take picture and record her and post them on Facebook saying how horrible her daughter is few years later after we graduated from HS she end up having trouble in finding a part-time job because they would search for her on the internet and there are photos and videos of her from what her mom did to her. So the small life lesson is don’t do this to your child because in the future they will be struggling on finding a job and trying to apply college.
The mom should be fined and/or get jail time.
The video mention in some states children could sue their parents for posting content about them online and i kinda think about that after reading you comments :((
I hope the mother delete the already shared contents about your friend to prevent further damages!!
I find the fact that he mother would take pictures and record her child to punish her or embarrass her extremely disturbing on its own.
The big life lesson is- don't abuse your children. That's what this is. Straight up child abuse.
I hope mom took down page and finally I find a job
I don't like it when parents share negative things about their children online. I don't need to know that your child got into a fight at school today. I think sharing positive milestones is okay.
Even positive is risky.. whats good today, will be bad or offensive in the future, and society is not rational enough to even care if its a very old picture or whatever.
@@somegirl4649 Most of us are, it's the empty cans that rattle the most.
Same!! My uncle once shared a photo of my cousin's messy closet on his public facebook... No one wants to see that and it's probably embarrassing for the kid involved!
Yes! When you speak of your children (online as well) only speak of them in a positive way. You should be cheering on your child, not calling them names, even saying a brat is just mean really. My daughter is the best person I know, she is amazing, why would I ever want to say something bad about her? I just don't understand how people can be so mean. Taking pictures of them while they are sick too. Why would you do that? For sympathy, that is bordering on some twisted stuff, like munchausen by proxy which I have experience with from my own parent.
I don’t like it either . If you want to punish your child for something they did posting personal things that they have done is not the way to go.
It gets really troublesome at times, like the whole “kids fashion” trend on Instagram. Parents literally using their children as “models” and “clothe ambassadors” 😣😣
all for $$$
I'm also not aware of child labor laws that protect these kids. If they're working and earning money, they should be protected by the same kinds of laws that apply to child actors and models.
Oof, "child ambassadors". Such a nice term for "exploitation".
@@jbird4478 Good to know. Thank you. I wonder if the money they earn is also protected under Coogan Law.
If they are real performers and want to do it, it's alright. There is nothing wrong with modeling/acting careers or being ambassadors. What's wrong is forcing your child into it for your own benefit or being pageant-y about it.
When my siblings and us wanted my mum to stop posting pictures of us she says they're her pictures and we're her kids so she can do whatever. Ironically, we weren't allowed personal social media until late teen years 🙃
That’s awful. Children aren’t possessions. Glad I grew up before social media.
Parents must respect their childrens' wish of not being on social media.
Same here. Even though I still love my mom, she says that my private information and "funny moments" are "her life". She even sent photos of me sleeping to her friends and posted "funny moments" of me farting to her Facebook. It's really embarrassing and makes me uncomfortable how she documents every moment of our time together and when I try to confront her, she just uses the same argument
I hate parent hypocrisy
The law doesn't see it the way your mom does
cant wait to watch a doc on this and its effects in 30 yrs
Sarah Anderson Yup we called it here first
It's already happening. There are millennials who have this awakening of realizing "Oh shit I'm 20+....what happened?"
Social media has deleted rites of passage, and BECOMING who you need to be to gain access to an ADULT life.
The whole thing about "adults looking for an adultier adult" is a result of millennials not being pushed to GROW up because they can remain caricatures of themselves and have it be PROFITABLE because of this social economy.
The feeling of "Idk who I am" is less prominent in countries where rites of passage and elder involvement in molding teens into adulthood is a big factor of growing up.
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I probably wont be around by then.
30 years is far out. i'm 25 years old today and this was my childhood. you want to know the effects? nothing good.
@@MissedBandwagon the social dilemma has more to do with how social media was developed, and less how parents abuse it to ruin their kid's childhoods. if you havent ALREADY watched it, you SHOULD go do that.
I’ve also noticed people are photoshopping their kids.. making their skin look smooth, making their eyes huge, and I’ve even see people photoshop their kids to give them an “hourglass” shape.
That's so gross. Let kids be kids!
I've seen them putting highlight and lipsticks on toddlers too
Wow
I’m fine with my mom photoshopping my skin at least. Also if my mom ever posts a picture of me and somehow you find it and you see my eyelashes and think that my mom photoshopped them. No. Right now I have eyelashes so good (I’m not flexing) that strangers just say: “NIcE eYElaSHES”
wait what?? and hourglass figure ?
It's pretty weird to think about your entire childhood being available for strangers online. I know that some youtubers even feel uncomfortable with how they grew up online even when they themselves uploaded the videos.
This is kinda unrelated but I feel like people in general should either be asked permission first or their face be blurred out if they're going to be put up online. I know that in Korea, some youtubers face blur random strangers that walk behind them for their own privacy. And personally, I wish people here did that, too. Blurring strangers out of pictures and videos we put up online should be a common decency.
I mean, are children able to consent? They don't generally understand the full ramifications of their actions most of the time. In other arenas we leave it up to the parents to consent on behalf of their children, but that system is part of the reason this is a problem.
I have to disagree with you on the Korea thing. I live here in Korea and I think they over monetize things on TV. They blur out knives, people smoking, logos, people that happen to be in videos or pictures (I'm talking about if they are in a public place), they also blur out the faces of criminals on the news. Sometimes when we watch TV the whole screen is blurred except for the person they want to show. My husband is Korean and he doesn't like it and there are many here who don't like it as well. They sometimes show a picture of something on the news but blur the whole picture out. What's the point of showing the picture then? Just my opinion.
@@MsJeanneMarie Children shouldn't be able to consent and the Parent shouldn't be able to consent on behalf of the child.
Think again not all strangers are bad. There are some good strangers who comment kindness quotes on Instagram posts that features kids.
@@ipadpro9580 wrong. Just because the message is positive, doesn't mean it's not exploitation.
I became really self conscious about my mum taking my photos because I found out that she’s been sharing them with her friends without telling me. It made me really uncomfortable
This stuff is only amplified if the child is disabled. Disabled people will often have really private medical stuff and mental health stuff shared online without their consent.
My older sister has special needs and my little sister is a crazy social media wannabe, I don’t rarely have time on social media but when I do I don’t post much. Even though there’s so much out in the online world neither my little sister or I, post about our older sister and her medical problems because we know things like this aren’t safe on the internet. Sometimes when we do want to post about her we mostly show her looking away from the camera or when something is covering her face, I often get asked a lot about why would I need to do that and it’s not like she would know, but here’s the thing, as much as I love my older sister and want to share her on my media page, I also want to protect her from the haters, the stalkers, the creeps online, etc,etc. She may not understand it but it’s my decision to do that mostly for not wanting all the attention like every other person online showing off something that could back fire some day. Although my sister had passed away a few years back now, we don’t post her like crazy, I still want to keep my life private from everyone who comes across me, however I still mange to post tiny things about her here and there but I don’t think it’s ever going to make things different for my platform of 100+ people (I use to have 1K but my account got hacked) so yeah this is only my saying side of saying that the disables often aren’t given consent when it comes to posting things about them online.
..and they rationalize it by saying they're "advocating" for the child or trying to explain/educate what the disability is.
@@bethsnyder8376...while spreading misinformation. The amount of "autistic mums" I see claiming their child has no empathy makes me want to scream
kids have a right to privacy. privacy is a HUMAN right, kids are humans too. posting about kids should be minimal and on platforms meant to reach family, not the entire world.
What's wrong with a photo album?
There is a bias against kids because they don't have experience. People act as if they are dumb because they are kids. When really they just don't have experience...
and this violation is the reason why COPPA exists
@@toddtoddtoddtoddtoddtoddto9851Bias is not the correct word. The word you're looking for is exploitation
Imagine the sickos out there that save pics and videos of ya kids 😭
It's a shame that the "parents" don't want to see that. Sad.
Ms. Smith Tiffanyferg did a video about family vloggers and she mentioned one woman who stopped posting content with her children and a huge portion of her male demographic stopped watching. I’m guessing they weren’t big teddy bears who just love kids in a healthy way...
Beanie that must’ve been horrifying for that vlogger to realize that, I never even thought about that as an issue either
Exactly as I thought! I once comment on a facebook post warning about that, but people said I am crazy to think that.
Oof. Its nice seeing sense here online
Im against parents making social media for their babies for the same reason I’m against child modelling and beauty pageants.
The idea of making money off a child/profiting in other ways just doesn’t sit right with me.
Like making money off a child, that’s exploitation.
I think it’s terrible for companies to judge your competence and skills as an adult for what you’re like as a kid. Everyone’s immature as a kid. They’re just kids. People mature when they get older.
But sadly for teens today any dumb thing they do lives forever
Amen!!!
I know. It's not even like most of these kids are saying something bad or mean - they're just being kids.
IKR. That's what I hate from companies: them being judgemental assholes.
I seriously doubt most companies will care about a video done when they were 4. If they do I wouldn't want to work there. Obviously the child didn't have a choice.
Yeah I don’t think it’s right to monetize kid’s privacy!
By being able to sue?
Thank God I was born in the 80s and never had to deal with my childhood photos and videos being plastered all over social media. Yikes, what an invasion of privacy
As a child of one of these parents I can say that it’s very frustrating. My parents over shared EVERYTHING about my life. It got to the point where they would take pictures of us (me and my two siblings) ASLEEP on the night before first day of school and then they would post them to all of their social platforms. my dad was a prominent citizen in our town so he had a lot of Facebook, Instagram, and twitter followers. And it’s not like he privatized his page, no, he left it public so ANYONE could see pictures of me and my siblings sleeping and vulnerable. It annoyed me so much and I would ask them repeatedly not to post very personal things about me because it got to the point were people would bring it up at school but they posted them anyway. If you think in any way that it is cute or funny then you have no idea. If you ARE going to do this at least privatize your page first. Because nothing messed me up more than coming to the realization that some pedophile halfway across the world could view these pictures and we would never know. be safe and realize that you should give your children a choice in all of this if they don’t want a picture posted of them then don’t post it. Because it’s always going to be on the Internet. If your going to set rules for your child on what to post about/of themselves, follow those same rules. Because now when I apply to college they’ll search up my name and it will jeopardize my chance of getting in.
"Parents" also use their children as shields on social media. They use them to deflect criticism, attacks, and any negativity. They also use their children as an excuse to do questionable acts.
I’m currently pregnant and I choosing to never post my children’s pics. Just want them to give them the luxury of privacy. Other moms may differ but that’s their choice
Good mom
Hope your kid is having a good live
Best way it's your child your child deserves your attention not the world
Would recommend keeping a physical photo album. Nice to look back on but no internet involved ❤
im 10 and im embarrassed that my mom posts pictures on my five year old facebook without consent,no matter how much i say no,she just won't stop.
Sue her
Sue her
I mean suing is a bit extreme, but reporting her and/or the images might do something, I don't know how effective it might be but better try.
@@alexapo8975 Sue her.
that's awful, try reporting the posts or telling other adults about it, see if someone can knock some sense into her
Don't forget the parents who put their kid as EVERY. SINGLE. profile pic...
(for some folks) it's like an extension of narcissism. Gross.
"nepotism not narcissm
Parents think they are the boss and there kids have no rights.
It's awful to say, but they don't. There's some things that ensure children have rights, but it's been established in the courts that children don't have the same rights as adults and aren't treated the same. That's why things like locker and backpack checks are legal.
@@karinagutierrez7134 The kids still have rights, yes? If so, it's just not the same. Also there is a reason backpack checks are legal (Because some parents shield their child from all stress types and then) kids shoot up schools and stab other kids (because they don't know how to handle it). It is safety to do backpack/locker checks.
they all belong in r/insaneparents
Well,parents are the essentially the boss until children reach maturity 🤷🏻♀️ Otherwise,without rules and regulations the kids would be out of control. And yes,every human being has rights☝🏽BUT.They have to be mature,responsible AND respectful towards the upbringing and development of their children,and this does not include thinking it’s “cool” parenting by publicising their innocent children’s’ lives.
@@lourdesbaby964 Not really. There are some kids who reach maturity at like 9. Doesn't make them not a minor by law.
when I got to be 7 or 8, my parents started asking me about what I would be ok and not be ok with them posting, if it involved me. As long as I say it's ok to post something of me, they will post it. It's interesting that parents now don't do that.
But even at 8 years old you don't really realize the implications of the things that are posted... I don't think having an 8 year old's permission suddenly makes it okay either. A lot of these kids relish in being youtube stars, doesn't mean that they'll be pleased about the stuff that they do online when they're 18
Noha if a parent takes the time to discuss things like a digital foot print and a child understand and the topic is revisited each time the parents want to post (the parent and the child both thinking about what is and is not appropriate for the world to see) then I think it’s fine. If we treat children like they are idiots with no control of their life because they are perceived be too inherently stupid due to their age then you just continue a cycle that sees children as less thans who shouldn’t get a voice. Only people speaking for them.
@@VictorianRabbit3456 Sure I get your point but I don't think kids are idiots and inherently stupid at all. I just don't think they're going to understand what a digital footprint really means for their future, even if it's explained to them. They may have some understanding, but not enough to make fully educated decisions that hold serious consequences for their futures. Again, just my opinion
@@noha2401 Can confirm. I used to make sexual videos when I was 9 and posted them on youtube. They have a lot of views too. I have anxiety everyday about this now as a 18 year old.
I am pregnant right now. This got me thinking. I will try to keep things private.
My kids don’t have to worry about this. I will never post photos or videos of them online. And I will be that parent that signs that no media paper from their school & other events. The only people who needs to see my kids are the ones who are actually in thier lives. I don’t need to showboat.
One thing I don’t get is why parents always laugh at their kids when they say something sarcastic or sassy. You do the same thing and no one’s laughing at how cute you look.
sure it is the evolution of the child's brain and their first step into becoming a big brain
but then so what? approximately 1 billion others probably did the same thing, maybe even at the same time
@@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr One billion is 15% of people only.
I’m glad The Atlantic is raising this question. I’m introverted and I have always thought about this. “Always” since about 2005.
+Christine Elizabeth
TH-cam and Facebook were *both invented in 2005* and became available for the public to use in 2006.
Twitter *was invented in 2006* and became available for the public to use in the same year.
Beyond these years...sigh!
The massive social networks on the Internet *were really invented for people to pit against each other, only disguised as "good technology"!*
*This IS 'The End Times'!*
@@anatheistmyselfBefore that we had MySpace, Bebo, and various instant messaging platforms as well as forums
My son watches quite a few "family vlogs". I remind him frequently that their videos are heavily edited to fit whatever narrative they are trying to portray, and that it is a full-time job for the kids involved. It breaks my heart to watch some of them -- these children are manipulated and pushed to work from a very young age for their family's prosperity and success. Isn't that child labor? Aren't there laws about that? So so sooooo many channels I've seen create ads for a variety of products aimed at children...so it ends up some youtube channels make a whole "ad" video, so along with regular commercial breaks my child watches 10 minutes of non-stop ads. How enriching.
There needs to be FAR MORE REGULATION for channels that gain anything from minor's creativity and labor. Internet-famous children who have been emotionally, socially, or cognitively scarred by these productions will start recognizing what happened to them and come out saying so. Just like child actors did (before there were protections and labor laws), we will all understand what a terrible underbelly this industry has.
I hate those things. Those kids are growing up in The Truman Show.
Shame on u
"there needs to be far more regulation" yeah, it's called parenting. don't let your child watch stuff that's going to turn their brain into goop if you ... know better. be.../// ?!?? a a... parent?!?!? crazy concept, huh. you're out here criticizing other parents for exploiting their kids, but you don't stop to think why you shouldn't let your own SPECTATE.
You guys are knocking them out of the park!! Great job bringing this up!
See this is why I really respect TH-camr Casey Neistat. He and his wife agreed that they don't want their kids to be as well known over the internet as he is. So he always makes sure that when he films them, he never shows their faces, even if that means blurring them.
How about not showing them at all?
@@bitTorrenter Well he tries to show his life and they are definitely a big part of it. And it's not like he shows them all the time. It's more like once in a while.
He actually made a vlog about his son once.
Vlad The Impaler same with zebrna. She only has show her kids (she has two and ones on the way) a few times in her videos just to an ice there here. She won’t ever have them in her videos until there ready and even then it gonna be slim to none. She post a little bit on Instagram but she respect her kids privacy big time and I respect that
a man on quality
Proud to say I have NEVER shared a single photo of my kids on the internet. They can make that choice for themselves when they’re older.
you're a good mother
Imagine meeting someone you never knew existed for the 1st time and they say “your acne has disappeared” because they saw your photos/ life events on your mum’s FB.
YeH
As soon as we had an internet connection my mom was posting about me and i HATED it. She posted about everything on facebook from me having broken a tooth to a picture of me coming out of surgery. I hated it. I struggle with anorexia, and no doubt every time i see a picture of me someone else took i relapse.
It really isnt hard to ask for their consent. You still HAVE the picture, just dont fucking post it.
this is an interesting take. i had a similar childhood and also struggled with eating disorders, both anorexia and bulimia. (im older and recovered now but) it makes perfect sense why this type of parent would raise a kid with an ED.... eating disorders are manifestations of lack of control in one's life. when you're a young person, you already can't control much about your life. you are expected to act like an adult while still being treated like a child. it's maddening. especially when the person who's supposed to take care of you, has you paranoid and insecure - because you can't relax around them, because you never know when a lens is going to be pointed at you. you have no control of your privacy! of course, you're going to take it out on yourself :(
i guess i never really even stopped to have this realization for myself.
i thank you.
and i hope you are okay.
it's been 2 years since you posted this - i hope things have gotten better for you. i hope you've recovered and broken free of your mother's grasp.
here's the impact on future generations, i'll tell you because i've LIVED it as a child : i'm 25yo, i grew alongside social media. my mother used it. in my experience, my mother was more concerned with "showcasing our relationship" than worrying about whether or not we actually had one. there was little communication (or consent) between us, and if there was it was always one sided.
she dictated how i had to pose in photos, (always facing her and smiling). if the photo wasn't good (usually because she didnt like the way she looked, or usually because i had blinked from having a flash go off in my face 30x) she would make me retake them, on average: 30-40x over. it was obsessive, and ruthless. eventually, it got to the point where i would spend my free time as a teenager photoshopping her double-chin out of pictures for her to post, just so i wouldn't have to stand there with my arm hovering around her for the remainder of the "photo session". and this was just the tame side of our relationship. i have no love or respect for her now. even now, if i put every ounce of effort, patience, and tolerance i have... into seeing her on holidays - the first thing she manages to get out of me when she sees me is a picture. gotta keep up appearances. lmao.
she was abusive emotionally, sometimes physically. as an adult, i've gone no contact with her a number of times. i wish it could be forever, but the rest of my family always guilts me into giving her access to my life. every time i do, i regret it. so i keep her at an extended-arm's length.
to this day, she still tries to "repair" the relationship. she does this by contacting me impromptu, to try and squeeze me into her always-chaotic schedule last minute. if i bend to her will and drop everything to go see her: she will spend the entire time domineering the conversation, manipulating me into sharing information about my life, and then when i give her a LITTLE: she starts rattling off advice and her two cents that 1. i've never asked for 2. i refuse to listen to now because any time i HAVE listened to her "advice", it's gotten me in trouble or made me feel worse.
nobody wants to be coerced into sharing about themselves, and then nitpicked and psychoanalyzed when they do. after i share something with her, she will no doubt share it with WHOEVER will listen. even people i don't know now, and never did. she's exploited me my ENTIRE life. in years where i've gone no contact - she would have her friends stalk me on the internet, and send her screenshots of my profile pictures. which she would then REPOST on her social media??? as if i sent them to her?
needless to say, i have no interest in hanging out with someone as an adult who would quite literally force me to spend time with her when i was young. the one hobby i did do for a few years, that i was SUPER passionate about... she'll never let me forget that she was the one to "drive me most of the time". even though "most of the time" she was complaining about the smell of the farm/animals, hiding in her car, complaining about my "dirty hands", or starting fights with my instructor because of personal differences. after i stopped riding horses at 13yo, i started drinking and acting out. and that's the tame side of MY life story.
TLDR - if you overshare about your child and force them to participate in your social media charade (even if you don't consider it exploitation), there's a GOOD chance they are counting the days until they turn 18.... and are no longer obligated to maintain a relationship with you.
When I was 10 to 12 years old, all I wanted to do was go back and forth to and from school.
I was born in 1990, and I am so glad that social media didn’t really exist until I was in high school!
same here
As a pre-teen the thing that i ever ever HATE that our School is that some Kids are forced to take a Picture when we have a very very Important day. AND WHEN THEY TAKE A PICTURE OF EVERY KIDS IN OUR SCHOOL, I SEE THEM ON GOOGLE AND I DON'T LIKE BEING IN SOCIAL MEDIA
Sharing a photo on Facebook for your family to see it, I think, is okay. But there should be a line drawn somewhere :/
Personally I wouldn't do it because I'd be paranoid about predators/their future.
I agree. Posting the odd picture without a high likelihood of causing embarrassment isn't a huge deal. Posting videos on TH-cam videos and blogging constantly about kids is oversharing.
Cc I agree completely, even a lot of mommy bloggers (At least the ones I watch) manage to not overshare, So I don't understand how everyone else isn't holding restraint.
I think we should be going after the predators not the parents, A parent shouldn’t be blamed for wanting to share a photo of their kid with friends/family because of a predator.
Wendy Peace I get that, but that's not the only issue about the situation.
Luckily child predators are an issue that's actually taken seriously, so there's many people and honey pot sights out there to catch them : )
@cphginger That's a good point
I've been pondering this thought when it comes to my younger family members... Their entire life will be on the web before they even have a say! I think children should be taught about information sharing at a young age, and parents should simply ask for consent. I'm quite sure most kids won't have a problem... But it should be their choice.
@Lesbian Amazon Sister hmmm that logic doesn't quite hold up. some adults even don't have the mental capacity to understand how their data is being used... yet it is still a matter of consent. I DO understand that the appeal of online celebrity status would have most kids happy to upload their lives without proper consideration... but adults do the same without ANY thought right? kids should be pushed to face reality ASAP, and taking responsibility for allowing content to be posted would be a first step. Banning parents from posting any content of kids under 13 is a bit much. I know that's not quite what you said... but that is the outcome your logic would lead to. right?
We are even careful sharing our kids pictures with our own family, because once you send or post, you have no control over the sharing forward, not to mention that you are giving rights to the sharing platform over your information. Sharing stuff online is like wide opening your house’s front door to anyone that wants to come in.
It’s also very dangerous you never know who’s monitoring you and taking interest in your children... and now they know where u live, your schedule where your children go to school etc.. it’s very dangerous
If I were a parent and it was my child I'd be very worried about predators and pedophiles looking at my children online. Like it's not something I could control, because anyone can do or see damn near anything on the internet. However I can try to prevent things like that by not posting my child online constantly
I agree
@@GreaterJan well of course there's nothing I could do about that. I can't control what thoughts go through others minds or what they decide to do with their life, only mine.
Also that is different from me posting pictures of my children on the internet were anyone could witness them. Those types of things don't just go away and can be saved and shared across the web. Some random pedo in a supermarket looking at my child is not gonna affect me or the child directly. Hell it's very unlikely I'd even notice the person. However if not posting my child online is something I can control, then I'll definitely use that to my ability and not post them
Even if you post constantly, there's a difference between sharing publically (where the pictures and videos can be found on Google) and privately (which is restricted to friends and family). I agree with OP, but this is an important distinction to keep in mind.
I have a few mom friends on fb that do this. I find that parents feel entitled to their kids. It’s really gross. Consent is not just about rape, it’s everything to do with exploitation and some parents just have no boundaries.
Social media is NOTHING more than adults REMAINING children through immature communication.
Delete social media so you can ACTUALLY GROW UP.
The reason I keep all my social media private, and even then, I limit what I post. Sharing a birthday picture is one thing, but I’ve seen some absolutely crazy things from other parents, and I truly feel for their kids when they are older.
Dont forget how much this affects kids with disabilities. Their most vulnerable moments, their most embarrassing moments, things that should remain private.
This reminds me of when I worked at a bank and we were not allowed to have pictures of our family posted where the public could see them. This was so members of our family (kids) would not be kidnapped for ransom. Or posting that you are going on vacation for a week or two. Burglars love that information. I am always amazed at how much people will tell you in a grocery store in line. I'm a perfect stranger and you're telling me way too much about you, your family, your vacation, etc...
There was recently a case where the parents of some famous TH-cam kids were shown to have been abusing them behind the scenes and using the kids to make viral videos. It's important to remember that the Internet is just like everything else humans have created; it can be used, but it can also be abused and it's better to be safe than sorry when it comes to anything related to kids.
SMH!
To those parents who over share their child's privacy
Do you know that stalkers and paparazzis exist ?
🤬🤬🤬🤬
Soon this will be a huge issue for youtube 2022.
Im so glad im childfree
I think its crazy to let ppl see your children so raw like this with no filter!!!
Finally bringing light to this...it drives me crazy!
I am friends with these two parents on Facebook, they have two girls. Everyday they post over 30 pictures of their daughters, their accomplishments, vacations, and day to day lives. I have to wonder how much of their everyday lives do they spend actually loving their children and how much time do they spend doing things they can post to show others what a great family they are..it's really sickening to think a kid is taught to pose for pictures and videos every damn day!
There's a law and philosophy professor Seana Shiffrin who argues the entire life on the child is something the parent imposes without their consent.
Of course this is true. And all the burden, suffering, pain, joy, and happiness of life that comes with it -- all without consent (unless we just can't remember our pre-birth "placement" interviews).
@@MercuryRisingFast Perhaps I wasn't clear. The consent I'm talking about is the fundamental consent as to their birth. Birth (and thus life itself) is utterly and completely without consent. You imposed this life on each of your four children. I say this as a simple fact with no judgment attached to it.
@@MercuryRisingFast It's a very interesting thought experiment -- but I agree as a practical matter it's mostly moot. I like your idea about the kid effectively being an extension of their parents. But of course the kid then has to grow up dealing with all the burdens and joys of life on their own (with help, certainly, but the internal struggles, thoughts, and feelings are distinctly theirs).
@@CommaCam I am inspired by your calm and friendly attitude.
Reclusive Sloth life isn’t always tied in a bow but it is still a gift.
My sister constantly takes pictures of her son but 90% of those photos are sent to a group chat with just my family. I think that’s how it should be.
This is actually a good discussion, as kids grow up with social media they will have info and data about them before they even know what social media is. For identity theft reasons that’s a major problem. Also yeah the advertisement thing is pretty scummy when you look at it in this point of view
You gotta love the parents who say they got permission from their five-year-old to post their photos and personal details about their lives. Especially the ones who insist their child is happy when they get "Likes" from strangers. A five-year-old has no clue how this could affect them in the future, and why would anyone train their child to seek approval in the form of "Likes" from strangers anyway? This is terrible parenting.
ACE family is the first thing that popped into my head.
Ballingers for me. And col and sav
Same, poor kids I heard the get abused for views
Labrant family also comes to mind
Which one adopted the autistic kid and then immediately returned him after making a big thing of it on their channel? Parents who use children as bragging props are sociopathic narcissists that I have zero respect for.
This is a point of contention between me and my ex. I consider my child’s privacy a human right I don’t have the right to violate. He doesn’t see it that way.
It’s gonna come up in court.
So I know that TH-cam has blocked comments on videos with children but I think they should go further and demonetize them. I doubt that they would ever do that because TH-cam makes a lot of money off of content but I think it would be a good way to disincentivize parents who want to exploit their children for money
They they wil, put this video is monitezed on all of the videos to trick youtube their videos is making money.
They will start a gofundme
I’m definitely against it. It’s bad enough when your parents have photos of you in the bathtub at home, let alone online. Children have rights, and it should be their decision whether they want their private life shared. Especially amongst people with a high follower or viewing count, since you don’t know who’s looking either. Cheers to the Atlantic for making a video on something I’ve thought about so often.
This is so important and I'm so glad this is being talked about. In my case I don't have or post a lot on social media but I have people around me like my mom and mother in law that have facebook and they like to upload things. The problem comes when they upload pictures and videos of me that I don't agree with or without my consent. I've had a few arguments with them about this, I'm in my 30s but don't want my whole life on the internet. Also another huge problem is that some people don't even understand technology or the risks but they still have social media, for example they have their profile public without knowing it or if they have it private they accept and request friendships from random people they don't know. I can keep going on other stuff like this like sharing locations etc.
Anyway, if I don't like this done to me I definitely don't want this for my children. Right now I don't have kids but it is one of my worries, I can already imagine the huge arguments I'll get in because I don't want that funny video of my kid uploaded... that is if I even know it is being uploaded...
Remember- young children CAN’T consent to have their photos and film footage shared with the world. So just leave them out of it.
I never ever share pics of my nieces online and I’ve asked my mom to start asking me if I’m okay with her posting any photo of me on her Facebook. I think young people are starting to value internet privacy whereas older people are getting too into sharing their lives.
I remember when my parents didn't even want me to talk to strangers online let alone post pictures
I have a TH-cam channel, an Instagram and two kids. I’ve never even shared my children’s names online- nevermind photos of them. I didn’t grow up online & want to afford the same right of privacy to my own children. I’ve actually gotten A LOT of negative backlash due to my choice- mostly from family who think I’m “robbing THEM” of posting things of MY children. Note how they don’t take the futures of the kids into consideration- only their own desire to share or brag to their own friends & online strangers. Social media has really taken a toll on the family dynamic over the years.
I always thought it sad and frustrating when folks and friends became parents (it seemed especially prevalent with women becoming mothers) when suddenly their whooole identity became _their child(ren)_ 😳
Like, I get it.
_You’re proud of them._
But you were an entire person, a whole entity with a life and interests and opinions and hobbies long before they were born. Now every profile photo is your kid. Every post. Every pic. It’s like, “hey! Are _you_ even still in there somewhere, friend??!”
Or have you just morphed into your child??!
Are you still really wearing your wedding dress from your wedding 8 yrs ago like it appears in your profile pic?? (Hell, Are you even still with that guy?) 🤔
It’s like becoming a parent gives rights to stop existing as an _individual._ Like you don’t have anything else to be proud of. Like you don’t have to.
But you still an individual!!!!
Post about _that!!_
On the flip side, I’m so impressed by people I’ve encountered, both in real life and on the internet, who have spouses and entire families that you almost didn’t even know about because of their lack of presence on their “feed”.
Like, _THATS_ refreshing!!! 🙌🏻
Can't agree enough.
They have no identity anymore, their biggest life accomplishment is potty training now... Sad and disgusting at the same time.
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So true it’s like that has become a lot of people’s entire identity now I’m like but who are you I understand you’re a parent and that’s phenomenal, but there are other components to you.
but a lot of the times.... these people dont have hobbies or personalities outside of their kids. thats why they had them to begin with.
These people don’t realize, or comprehend that they don’t “own” their children as is understood as property or pets. They are humans and will ,or already, have their own sense of individuality. Just because it’s “their kid” does not supersede that child’s right to privacy or consent.
Amen
THANK YOU akmundra. my mother used to tell me "your body is my property until you're 18!" :') i'm only 25 now. she exploited me on social media when it was only in it's infancy. i SO BADLY wish she understood this.
Short story, my mum shared a picture of me ever since I was like in elementary school. During my year on middle school, one of the people who had crush on me confessed that he went through my mum old Facebook profile to stalk pictures of me ever since I was a child. THAT’s only one people that confessed it to me, I cannot imagine how many people had done the same as this boy did because it’s very disturbing
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Yes, they do
People that exploit children for financial gain are pathetic
My Mother was never worried about predators viewing my photos when SHE posted them, but once I turned into a teenager - and compulsively sought out autonomy by posting my OWN pictures and exploiting my OWN self, then she had a huge problem with internet safety.
It's sad how parents have kids for themselves to brag about and treat them like a trophy. Kids are a person not a trophy. Period.
I despise when parents share their kids photos on the internet, and not just because I don't care if your kid said their first word or went to their first soccer training. I've had to delete photos of kids in nothing but a diaper from a facebook group I manage (that has nothing to do with children or parenthood) because the mom posting didn't see anything wrong with posting a half naked photo of her child to a group of over 100k strangers on the internet. There are predators everywhere - they can even be in your friends list and your kid doesn't need to be naked to end up on the darkest spots on the internet. Your child has a right to their privacy and safety! If you have to share photos of your child, make sure your privacy settings are on lockdown.
I would never post my kids on social media.
"The US is quite far behind." Now an evergreen statement.
When my son was born I became so protective of him. I stopped making TH-cam videos because I didn’t want him online. And I rarely shared him to family on my Facebook. It’s scary I can’t protect him at all times because people are constantly making videos and taking pictures of others in public spaces.
Anything that mom or dad posts when the kids are little can bite the kids in the butt later when they get older and want to get a job or try to go to school
Don't post every darn thing they do that you think is cute!!
It won't always be cute!!
I never post my child online
Parents should think more about who is looking at videos/pictures of their kids and why. I've heard that channels get fewer views from men in their 20s-40s when they stop showing their kids....which is really creepy when you think about it.
I grew up late Gen X and I would be furious if my parents decided for me what about me was published online before I was even aware enough to be able to understand what all it was, and what consequences it could have. Besides... no one cares about your kids, no one wants to see pics or videos of them.
I’ve given everyone in my life full permission to hit me as hard as they can in the nose if I ever start pulling this with my kids. I can’t count how many times I’ve begged my mum not to tell an embarrassing story about me as a little one around boyfriends and the people I hang out with - grateful all she has is words confined to a small space, surrounded by people who love me. I can’t imagine what it feels like to have your parent able to wield to a world with unknown intentions a moment they consider “so cute” that you probably already hate. Much less starting from babyhood!!
This is why when I see parents refuse to exploit their children’s lives I applaud them. I can see where it would be easy to think it’s just sharing a delightful moment, but my rule of thumb is respect, always.
My 60-year-old mother (I'm 36) uses my photos on her Facebook page all the time, even as her profile pic and it annoys me. She simply cannot understand why I get annoyed. You know what's also weird? When parents comment personal information on social media. Like there was this ad about teen pregnancy and some lady commented about how she has her daughter on birth control and had "the talk," like that's random strangers' business.
I wish youtube and instagram would demonetize accounts that show children and maybe even forbid them to be public, making them private. Children are NOT here for you to exploit and work for your mortgage. I would hate to grow up these days, so I don't want to put kids in this horrendous world. I wouldnt buy them an iphone at 5 yo, they could get one at 18. They would hate me and get bullied. No thanks.
That will not work plus it could violate 1st amendment rights aka freedom of speech, and more.
@@ipadpro9580 THEY are violating their kids' human dignity. That is a violation, man. Freedom of speech doesnt mean that you can do or express anything. It means you can express your opinion, but not offend, call names, be racist, or let your kids work for you.
What if someone started a change.org petition to make Instagram accounts that show youngsters public what will happen.
#onlytheyoung
What if a store sells iPhones to 5 year old kids what will happen.
my parents never ever post photos of my siblings and I on social media, despite my brother and I being 17 and my sister being 22, all with our own social media accounts. they just want to protect us.
I told people before that it is not good for children pictures on internet, plus this kind of behavior of exploration their own children is unacceptable :(
No one ever listens
The sad thing is a lot of parent infuencers that use their kids monetize their blogs so that they are often getting paid for the exploitation.
In my opinion kids should not have their image posted online until they are old enough to fully comprehend what the internet is and how many people can see the photos. It's not fair. As someone who was born in 1989, I have peers who have chosen to never be on social media and do their best to ensure that others don't post their photos either, or at least do so sparingly. Children have the right to privacy. You being their parent does not trump that. I find it especially disgusting when a photo says in the caption that a child asked their parent not to post it, as though it is funny to disobey someone's wishes like that.
But don't you know children are our (parent's) property? 😅
@Lesbian Amazon Sister I feel really bad for kids today. I hope we are getting to a time now that parents stop posting everything and allow their children to form their own selves while being allowed ample privacy to do so.
@@nepadron you would think so, yet some of these parents bills are being directly paid because their 4-year-old is a cutie who doesn't know millions of people are watching their every move.
@@nepadron A human is property?
@@nepadron Children are humans, not things.
When I bring this up in my circles, the response I get is "oh I only share with my friends list. I know them all so there's nothing to worry about". In fact, in majority of the cases child abuse is done by a person known to the child/family. Yes, your kid is your pride and joy and you want to show them to the entire world.. But at what cost?
Things that are okay to post on social media including your children:
- Pregnancy announcements
- The first baby picture(s)
- Birthdays
- Vacations (after you’ve gone on the vacation)
- Special achievements (winning a sports game, dance performances, etc)
- Holiday pictures
Things that are not okay:
- Anything that could humiliate your kids in the future
- Anything that you wouldn’t want posted of yourself
- Anything that puts your children in danger of predators/kidnappers
- Your entire life story (meaning posting everything you do with your kids with lots of detail)
Thanks 🙏
My parents always post family photos with me in them, and I really wished they’d asked all of us if we’d like it on Facebook. But according to them I’m not human, so...
My parents ran a blog when I was younger, talking about our family (at the time it went from just me to me and my brother, it stopped before my sister came along), so searching the name of the blog (which was taken down) will show up baby photos of me
I beg my mother not to post pictures of me that I ask her over and over again not to post and she doesn’t listen. I’ll just start reporting them 🤷♀️
Discovering the term and topic of sharenting is highly enlightening. Why aren't there more articles and TV segments about this growing epidemic on our local, national, and world news?
It is pretty rare or they refuse to make it or they will violate mom freedom of speech
@@ipadpro9580 it's more like Narcissistic Personality Disorder more than anything. A nice portion of old high school and college female classmates of mine are divorced. Given their sharenting habits, I can see why. LOL! In fact, I blocked and unfriended at least 1 of them because she only posts on Facebook to brag and exploit her brats and act morally superior to those of us without kids.