Students protests use of Afrikaans as a teaching language in South Africa
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- Students at the University of Pretoria, South Africa are up in arms over the use of Afrikaans as an official teaching language. Following days of violent protests, the university administration has reportedly resolved to conduct all lessons in English only. CCTV's Julie Scheier has the story
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So English is not colonial but Afrikaans is?
Funny that boers had independant republics
i think English is a colonial language, too.
Michael Felix it is, of course.
+Amadeus190890 well the first colonist spoke dutch (afrikaans is a dialect of dutch) and after the english took over the boer kept talking their language
Not really, English is not a colonial language if you are a native speaker... Spanish is not a colonial language but an Indian one, if you are a Mexican 75% Indian blood, and you speak only a language: Spanish becomes an Indian language because your are an Indian. Of course you can call it "Latino" to soften the effect, but nothing changes
“Afrikaans is a colonial language so it’s bad, let’s replace with a far more brutal and widespread colonial language
the keyword is widespread - people can benefit more from speaking english in the academic world, because virtually all high impact factor journals publish in english
@@arthurleung266 It's not beneficial, they can learn another language. If not go somewhere else.
@@arthurleung266 that doesn't mean they should not teach their language to their kids. I'm Kurdish and my language for me is the best. Yes I know English too, but as you say, it helps me. But that doesn't mean they should teach me all classes in English in school.
"brutal" language lol wtf does that even mean ? English is the number 1 international language. By this logic USA should drop english and start teaching in Native american languages
A language itself can't be brutal
You’re protesting against an entire language because of apartheid, and then replace it with English, the language of the largest empire that ever existed.
What. The. Hell?
RKRL don’t forget they were the empire that colonized them fully
You clearly don't understand the context for why black people would prefer English to afrikaans
@David John Murray Reynolds the people who spoke Afrikaans were the ones who implented apartheid, hell apartheid is an afrikaans word in itself. The people who spoke English, particularly outside of South Africa, were against apartheid, even the white English speakers in South Africa were either remarkably less pro apartheid or even anti apartheid
Here u are posting in English
Anglo-Irish Mapping not to mention the Afrikaans were just a small group that was there that had nothing to do with English colonization
In Mexico we used to have 60 different lenguages and nobody cares about it, people can barely speak Spanish so😂😂😂😂
They should teach native languages in public schools
@@andoniazcarraga1637 no
Tú ni español haz de hablar bien champ@@tamalepapi4692
@@andoniazcarraga1637 I agree, I think it'd be so cool if more people spoke Nahuatl and other native languages
@just me still you domt teach them nothing but english
Why remove Afrikaans classes when you can add classes in other native languages? That way more people can be accommodated.
Removing a language is a step backwards, not forward.
I've been reading comments and this is so far the smartest 👐💥🇿🇦
The government is anti-White, simple (yes, Afrikaans is also widespread among Coloureds, but doesn't change the fact)
Jy is n sleg poes
@@federicodotta9626 that's really well put, i fully agree with your statement
Add all 9 other languages in the game 😂🇿🇦
I've seen some dumb things in my life, but to ban a language because of it's history is just about the dumbest
Mmn depend on the context
like let's say we want to ban German language in Israel because of the Nazi, wouldn't you agree that it's ridiculous
+Kah Weng Chok
It's different still Nazis killed jews because of a party German is not synonim of Nazi.
I 'm not saying Afrikaans is evil, but to understand the things that southafricans brought this it' s important understand more the apartheid.
Then maybe we can understand the context.
The apartheid was the culmination of hundreds of years of white supremacist ideology. Sure, Afrikaans might be a symbol of that unjust system, but in the end, the language itself is neutral, it was the mentality of the people that matters.
Just like how Bernie and Trump shares the same language, but the ideology they represent is vastly different. Can you really say English language is the problem here?
It's fucking CCTV prop.
I'm confused. What's wrong with people speaking Afrikaans? Can someone tell me what's going on here?
Geez I wonder why
@@kbtitan2464 I'm not from South Africa, so I genuinely didn't know why. I looked it up and now have a general understanding of the situation though...
@@denevievedoeses244 you know nothing
@Theme Fresh Looks like someone didn't read my response in the thread haha. No worries, you'll get em' next time tiger
@@nelisvanwieren9508 YeS ThAnK YoU sOmEoNe AgReEs
As a Black South African who did Sepedi as home language and English as 1st additional language
It kinda felt unfair to do every subject in English which is not my language and someone out there got to do it in their own language
But removing it is like taking 10000 steps backward. Why can't we learn from the past I mean yes it was sour but removing a whole language that's like wiping away the whole culture
If they do that to Afrikaans why not do it to every language
All I am saying is involve more languages into the education system
If someone can do Math,Physics,Life Sciences,Geography e.c.t subjects in their mother tongue why can't I in my own African language
It may take time but if they could do it we also can
But destroying a whole language like how dumber can you get??
You sound like you apart of the go along get along crowd that type if thinking is part of the reason why 90% of the wealth of South Africa is still in the hands of the white minority.
I wish to learn in the language I speak, not fail because I dont speak another.
@@postmastersgt1670 pretty much all Afrikaaner people I know are in the middle class. Most of my friends are farmers, and they're all pretty much fighting for spending money past survival yearly. Most of the wealth in Southern Africa runs through the Government which is majorily black. They share it with their families and some of their friends who are also black.
So to sum it up for you: the MAJORITY of the poor in Southern Africa is black, while the MAJORITY of the really wealthy is also black. Time to wake up bro.
World is so full up of people with rancor and bad intentions, you got a colonial past? yes!! English people didn't come to release you and they wanted and they got it for a while the domination of all that territory and prentend actually use you like their solidiers to fight the supremacy of something that is not from them!! Watch out!!!
You just said you had to learn in English so why can’t they learn in English
Why are you fighting for their language they didn’t fight for yours and wouldn’t have
So uh.....how is English *less* colonial than Afrikaans???
Didn't the Brits rule literally HALF the planet at one point?
my only idea is that English is an ‘easier’ language.
They ruled the world but in a democratic way. They brought democracy, freedom and civil rights. Afrikaners were basically Nazi-friendly, and apartheid was a form an Afrikaner Nazism. The Brits were not totally perfect, but they have been the liberators of the developing world.
Yes but today when you think of english its associated with internationality ,whereas when you think of afrikaans you think of the language priviliged racist white people spoke during apartheid.
Basically everyone who tried to resist the Brits got their shit pushed in
It was more like 30%.
1:16 *Windows has stopped working*
I'm dying😂😂😂
Omg hahaha
Filipinos ain't shit.
Your country is the number one shithole of Asia.
@ ???
De de de de de de de
The majority of afrikaans speakers are coloured people
Coloured people? Why are they coloured? Whites are the minority plus non native so arent whites coloured people.
@@DaddyAZTL Coloured is the official term used in South African demographic census. It refers to non white, non black tribes and non Asian. The makeup the majority of the population in the western half of the country.
@@DaddyAZTL, there's three basic racial groups in South Africa; Blacks (Negroid), Whites (Caucasian) and Coloured (Capoid). So in order to explain Capoid, go back to between 4,000-6000 years ago, the time of the African diaspora, this refers to the Negroid diaspora from the general area of the Congo today. South of the Sahara runs an arbitrary line, called the Bantu line (the primary Negroid people). North and south of the Bantu line people were different, physically (racially) and culturally i.e. north of the Bantu line wealth was measured in camels, south thereof in cattle etc. So in short lets stick to the diaspora south of the Bantu line, people moved roughly from the west to the east across Africa and therefrom south, obviously the actual migration routes were slightly more complex than that. Nonetheless, the Negroid people moved into the territory of the Capoid people (southern African people who occupied the territory roughly up to Kenya, they used to be the dominant southern African people). The African diaspora has resulted in these people being today only still present at the southern tip of Africa (South Africa, Botswana, Namibia and southern Angola). Today knows as the KhoiSan people, the Khoekhoen (KhoiKhoi) and San (Bushman) are the only living members of the Capoid race. Remnants of Capoid are still present among the Hadza of Tanzania etc, but as I explained they were basically replaced by the Bantu people during the African diaspora.
So in South Africa there's a group called the Coloureds, they include a number of 'people', including the KhoiSan (both groups and their various tribes), it also includes the Malay people brought here as slaves during the Colonial Period and prior to 1840, with the start of workers unions and segregated residential areas etc, some people at least mixed, many of whom, both the former slaves and these generally mixed groups mixed primarily with the indigenous people, i.e. the KhoiSan. So to a more or lesser degree Coloured people are closer connected to the original people of the land, the KhoiSan, even though all would not regard themselves as KhoiSan directly. Other groups will also have KhoiSan influence because of the diaspora, for ex. the Xhosa, but here they were incorporated (sometimes by force and sometimes by choice into the Xhosa community, so in other words they became part of the Xhosa, so Black).
Coloured is not mixed race, Black and White do not make you Coloured; Negroid and Caucasian equals Mixed Race not Capoid or Coloured. Coloured is an identified cultural group, strongly vested in the ways and heritage of the original inhabitants of the land, prior to the arrival of the Negroids and the Caucasians. Coloureds are an officially recognized minority with their numbers being fractionally higher than the numbers of the Whites.
Whites are roughly half-half, I would say slightly less Afrikaans speakers (or the Boers) than English first language speakers, but when it comes to the Coloureds the scales shift and yes, the majority are Afrikaans first language. Afrikaans is one language, but many will say that there are slight dialectical differences.
Many in South Africa will proudly call themselves Coloured, a distinct broader cultural group that include many specific groups, such as the Khoe and San tribes and the Cape Malay. Coloureds (sometimes referred to as Brown, especially in the Western Cape) are not Black, they're not White and they are not mixed race, thus not to be confused with POCs, the now very fashionable term from the West. A POC is not a Coloured in South Africa.
@@DaddyAZTL coloured is a broad term in south Africa who people who are mixed, sort of their version of creole. They're descendants off early white settlers who intermarried with black or cape malay women. Most afrikaans speaking are actually coloured, not white.
Yes, that is true as it was forced on us Africans, just like French, English, German,, Spanish and Dutch.
P.S. we are NOT COLOURED, which is from Latin, meaning falsely covered up! WE HAVE MELANIN which makes us Africans extremely dark to blue-black, iridescent, if from Equatorial Africa to various shades of blackness
1:14 my guy...so what if we are in a democratic state? I get it that apartheid was a crisis but you can't remove a language, literally people still speak it as their native language and also why not add more languages than to just remove it? Like seriously 🤦🏾♀️ protest to add Zulu or something not to remove Afrikaans, you're just going to offend the people who speak afrikaans and cause chaos and I think that's one of the problems we are facing in South Africa, we are still carrying the grudge of apartheid from generation to generation. Being innovative is a lacking skill that is needed :(
It is so sad what goes on in the southern africa region in general. I mean theres apartheid scars in south africa, zimbabwe suffers economy issues and scars of rhodesia, namibia suffers with corruption and poverty, zambia is slowly becoming a chinese colony. Botswana seems to be the only hopeful place without these tensions
Germans still speak German. Should we ban German cause Hitler spoke it? How silly.
That’s so stupid. There are still way more official languages in SA that people speak. If you keep university in Afrikaans that’s disadvantaged many students. If you add More languages it’s a waste of resources.
Lol, so you're scared of offending boers? 😂😂😂
Wisest comment here - this logic of advocating for equality by taking away advantages instead of bringing those advantages to others. Instead of uplifting the poor, we want to punish the rich. The mindset of "I can't have it, so nobody else should" is ridiculous. If we want equality, should we all have 2 homes and 3 cars, or should we all live on the street? Afrikaners (and British) being able to study in their own language is a problem, but the way to fix it is not to take that benefit away, but rather give the same benefit to others. I've seen schools in the MENA region teach in English, French, Spanish, German, Hindi, Chinese, etc. while the official language is usually Arabic. Many European schools teach 3-5 languages!
"We are in a democratic state, why are we still using afrikaans?" Surely thats the point of a free democratic state? So peoole have the right to speak whatever language they want
They have that right still though. The language isn't being killed or banned in the country. It just won't be the mode of instruction at the university. Which would allow the university to be more inclusive to the largest group of the population.
It's not about that. It's corrupted politics. Some communistic bullshit politicians whooping up emotions amongs their sheep in order to "creating equality for the people by redistribution" aka "stealing hard working peoples property to benefit their individual ass".
@@Zhiivago I hope you don't forget that authoritarianism has something to do with it right? I hope you do not confuse socialism with authoritarianism which creates dictators from countries with communism today.
If you know, sorry. People these days confuse socialism with authoritarianism.
I suggest you look further into Afrikaans as a language or think about it in a manner similar to English with AAVE. Afrikaans has its own set of dialects, but the one used predominantly by black South Africans is looked down upon and not "pure" like the dialect of the white people, much like how the American black accent is taught to be improper in the US. It excludes and questions the validity of generations of black culture. Because the population of South Africa is mostly black, this language spoken previously by white supremacists creates an elitist and exclusive divide between the white and black population. In that regard, the use of English is a very reasonable option.
You don't understand things, do you.
Wait, is this a satire. This looks like satire too much
Welcome to South Africa my guy...where the line between satire and reality are blurred
I don't see the onion logo anywhere
J - justice. Historical justice.
Landi Mhlakane LOL
llVIU frl
South Africans: *laughs in 11 official languages*
Hold your cookies. India has 22!
@@Sammy58328 thats all languages. India has 2 *_official_*, as in legal terms, languages, which is Hindi in Devanagari script and English.
y'all must be talking about dialects
@@lindaletabasa7760 india has 22 official language, each taught in their state of origin.
@@burgerqueen1633 it’s only 2
Afrikaans is spoken in South Africa and Namibia, as well as other countries to a lesser extent. In South Africa, it's one of the country's official languages and is spoken by about 13% of the population as a first language. It's also spoken in other Southern African countries, including Botswana, Lesotho, Malawi, Mozambique, Swaziland, and Zambia. // In South Africa, the racial breakdown of Afrikaans speakers is as follows:
Colored: 50.2%
White: 39.5%
Black: 8.8%
Indian or Asian: 0.9%
Other: 0.6%
6,855,082 South Africans speak Afrikaans as a first language.
All languages in South Africa need to be taught at universities equally, Including Afrikaans. Every language is an important part of history and should not be abandoned. If you want to learn in Afrikaans, its your freedom. I woud not mind lectures in the local south African languages too. Hell, I find beauty in every language
+Arsenal FC Fan exactly
Trust me you want to keep Afrikaans because one day you gonna travel the world and visit places like the Netherlands and wish you'd never stopped learning Afrikaans. I'm with you brother.
***** Africa needs everyone no matter the race. its the reason why the US is the greatest nation on earth. your narrowmindedness is keeping Africa from moving forward
***** which language did he take away? In South Africa , people still speak their languages. you dont make any sense and logic
+Arsenal FC Fan
Fuck no. Africans should speak African languages or whatever language they choose. The Japanese do not teach in any language but Japanese, and will never teach in any language but Japanese.
This video is EXTREMELY inaccurate and biased. The real reason why Afrikaans was discontinued in South African universities is not a racist move. It was removed because it does not have the same international standing or reach such as English. Afrikaans is the home language of approximately 12% of the population. Black South Africans who make up the majority of the country mostly speak Zulu and xhosa as their home languages but in order to study they have to do so in their second language which is English. That being said the majority of South Africans are excluded by universities who have an Afrikaans language policy. Afrikaans people do understand English so it is only fair that all universities be in English in order for all South Africans to have an equal opportunity to study.
well said
That's what I was thinking. English is more inclusive. I suppose it's a hard pill to swallow when you feel that your culture is being eroded but yes I think it makes sense to make a more inclusive environment.
@@jordanforbes2557 Yeah! Like they should understand no one is taking Afrikaan from them, it's their culture. But for the good of all, if English is the most widespread and understood by all, then it's the most suitable language to be used.
As in any other multilanguage country, you can have all-afrikaans universities, all-english universities, and all-zulu universities while offering afrikaans courses in a majority english-language universities, zulu courses in majority zulu-universities etc. with all integrating options possible. This is also true for high-schools. Many States in the world have multiple levels of language-switching in the education system. The majority of Member States of the European Union use more than one language to teach at elementary, high-school, and university level.
Taking away language rights instead of organising investments to aim at augmenting them is always a bad move, because it leaves no-one happy and truly satisfied.
@@arielschant9841 I'm not sure if you are South African or not but you would not propose this if you knew the history and current state the south African education system is currently in. Historically black schools and universities have been underfunded since its inception and are unable to complete with historically white schools. What you are proposing is a segregated education system in which if you a black South African you will have to go to an under resourced "Zulu school" and attend a subpar "majority Zulu-university". If you ACTUALLY knew what you were talking about you'd know that there isn't any language that is being oppressed in South Africa. It is the former Afrikaans Universities in the country that decided to have a more inclusive language policy by phasing out a lot of their Afrikaans courses and replacing them with English. NOT THE GOVERNMENT.
By that logic, we shouldn’t even speak English😅
That's where they're heading
But many people speak English not just as their native tongue, but also as the modern era's lingua franca. What would we use instead of English? Latin?
@@josephpeck8723 SJWs don't do logic
@@RodFleming-World I'm really curious how they are able to get $h1t done then.
@@josephpeck8723 they don't. They just f%ck things up. BTW I was agreeing with you. The lingua franca clearly has limitations.
Black and white together.💟
No
@@prodigious818 why not?
@@prodigious818yes
"A more diverse and unified country."
Well that sure worked out well.
Diversity is a weakness
@@Bluesonofman nowdays people dont understand what is diversity.
Yoel Armas Macías Early America Unified around a common religion and a common language.
@Rico T being a racist has and will never be noble and being one us definitely not a sign of intelligence
im asian and the diversity in my country are ruin our country in every aspects. trust me. and now i admire china for keep focus on development and future and proving that it easier if there is less diversity in one country
The best way to divide a country is by divine their language first.
No, race and religion are
Many people think that they need more *neutral* language, Just speak *chinese* language instead, and its done.
Good
@@Bruno-ry3pg Race is Coming from a Somali
@@Bruno-ry3pg No, language is at least as big of a cultural factor as religion.
Afrikaans seemed okay until about 0:40 when that white guy said “this is our land, this is our African land”. Now it’s just awkward 😶
Well, people say that Muslims who were born in Europe are allowed to claim Europe as their land, regardless if they are Arabs or North Africans.
So why can't white South Africans? Every person has the right to live where they were born.
So a whole population should be judged by the words of a single person?
He said this is south african land not our African land. He has a heavy accent when speaking English like most Afrikaans speakers.
@@liltinglullaby3282 Africans were forcefully taken to Europe as slaves they didn't forcefully come and occupy land in Europe and create Apartheid unlike White Dutch natives who forcefully come as slave masters and colonial masters that's African soil belongs to Africans atlist own that fact like other colonial masters instead of trying to fool the world that the Dutch people are southAfrican natives even Americans owned the fact that they took land from the Native Americans no more historical lies that land wasn't there to claim
@@kenjerkenjer9576 If African soil belongs to the Africans, then European soil belongs to the Europeans, and all Arabs and others need to be deported.
There are over seven million native Afrikaans speakers in South Africa. The majority of them are not white. To dismiss the language as a relic of apartheid and racism is just ignorant. Its history stretches back 350 years and it has just as much right to be used as any language. Now if you pay for a university course in English and it is being taught either partly or fully in Afrikaans that's a problem, but to demand the banning of all instruction in that language for no other reason than race hatred or revenge is just racist and counter productive.
+Jack Whitechapel if you removing Afrikaans from teaching it same like what the white south African do to black south African language during 1960s
+Jeff Morse no shit the first thing that comes up is a bunch of thumb bugling dark ones who cant even speak English correctly.
its worldwide white vs black, lets get them
Shawn Ruby we Asian just gona seat back and watch you guy fight each other :) this is so dumb white vs black , black vs white thing + lucky for Asian we don't had too many white or black so we don't had a huge problem about black vs Asian black vs white :)
nah its not a good language.
and English? Language of Custer face to the Amerindian? Language of the penitenciary system in Australia who sent to jail so many Aboriginal people? ... Come on British imperialism of British-origined one is far not better than others
Afrikaans in a language native to the country. I dont see the problem if the school is in a Boer majority area.
wait. lemme get this right. disenfranchise people by moving them out of economic hubs of the country. build universities in those economic hubs, then call them boer majority areas???? lol. you can't be proud of this comment.
Rampepe Mohohlo The wrongs of the past few centuries don't justify another wrong. What they did to the natives is in the past, let's all respect each other in the present.
professorquarter than don't dare calling it a native language like you're replacing the real native language.
Nila Kall It is native to South Africa though, Africaans is not found anywhere else besides South Africa. Similarly, the natives of many new world countries in the Caribbean were killed off and replaced largely by African slaves. The creole of Haiti, for example is found nowhere but Haiti, meaning it is native to Haiti.
A language can be indigenous to a region/country without the speakers of that language being so.
professorquarter Seriously dude I live in the Netherlands. Afrikaans is a form of Dutch stamming from the Dutch invasion. Afrikaans is not native.
I think Afrikaans and all south african languages should be used in schools. We need to stop seeing color but people
It's the Native's country, if the coloniser don't like it so they return to Europe, we don't see Black, Arabe or other force a other country to learn there language.
@@sorban5352 why do you think the North African countries speak Arabic?
And in China, they have banned the use of any other language other than Mandarin. Research carefully before commenting anything.
@@bhaskarbharali5853 Not the old Arabic but there is different dialect of arabe langage(I'm Arabe my self Egyptian's language is not the same than Maroc's) like the French and Italian is from Latin...it's more than 1 000 years old and Arabe come from Hebrew and it come from ancient Egyptien with a little Persia...Afrikaans come from racist colonialist segregationist from Dutch some decade ago...
and for china th-cam.com/video/5oPTcam3_BE/w-d-xo.html Research more...
i think color changes due to climate...
Bruv stfu
I love how the EFF try to divide us and then you see everyone holding hands praying together. We need unity, not hate.
The EFF trying to unite there own people who need unity more so than unity with the Boers.
@@postmastersgt1670 "there own people"... You mean 80,2 % of the entire population.
@@postmastersgt1670 their* dumbass
EFF wants a civil war in South Africa. Because Malema wants the absolute power like his big example Mugabe.
We want to leave a Africa for our descendants that will not include boers 💯 they will extinct from Africa
"why are we using de de de de de de..."
That's a very immature engagement you're doing there . Compared to what he had to say .
@@donelion6459 boomer
@@GoodVibesTH-cam that's it , that's all you could come up with 🤦🏿♂️, I am very disappointed . You can do better . And no am not that old 😂 , not even 30
@@donelion6459 i love you
Don Elion ok boomer
As a Canadian I have to support the right of Afrikaaners.
As a Nederlander i have to support Afrikaans.
+kingDeCosta123 you would think it would be common sense
You wanted our opinion when apartheid was still in existence but when other minorities were being oppressed but when the Afrikaaners are being oppressed nobody wants to hear international opinion?
*are being oppressed
In Canada everybody understands English, yet we have French universities. It's about respecting the right of a people to learn in their own language.
Why not just add classes in other languages instead of removing classes? This is the idiocy that wants to rule the country from the EFF
English is a colonial language. Learn a new one or you're racist or old.
There are 11 official languages. That’s just inefficient
@@irrelevance3859 Then do what the Afrikaaners did, make universities and schools that teach in only those languages
@@kallenmurphy are we in the apartheid?
@@irrelevance3859 I would hope not considering its 27 years later
English is a great language, that's why everybody learns it and uses it. Afrikaans is also a great language, those who want to use it should be able to do so without discrimination :)
But at the same time Afrikaans should never be put on a pedestal higher than any other language.
@@hopebuhali3887 but what do you have to lose I'm good learning all my subjects in English let them keep their Afrikaans. It's more convinient to learn in the most spoken language in the world than a language that's only used in south africa.
@@hopebuhali3887 why use Afrikaans but can't use Zulu also?
@@upendo.3570 Simply because its not possible to put all 11 languages in one institution of learning.
@@hopebuhali3887 I believe that this an African country ...so Whites or non Natives should learn the countries native language...it's unfair that white people are always put higher up then other POC so yeah...i hope things change ...
They’re not saying Afrikaans must be banned as a language everywhere.. they’re saying it’s unfair for the university to teach courses in only English and Afrikaans in a country with 11 official languages.. where English classes are for all the non Afrikaans speaking people and Afrikaans classes are for the Afrikaans speakers.. if I can’t learn mathematics in Zulu or Venda then why do you learn it in Afrikaans... let’s all meet in the middle and learn in English... you will speak Afrikaans outside the classroom and I will speak Zulu outside the classroom.
@@maxgorbunov1554 ????
@@maxgorbunov1554 elaborate how you came to that conclusion plz.
Read with the intention to understand not to respond
Exactly
so you ban afrikaans and not start teaching in other languages??? lmao SA full of racist idiots
By that logic they shouldn't use English because the British Empire oppressed people on a worldwide scale.
Jay Carrigan Did the English empire oppress the SA natives?! Maybe I missed that..
Jay Carrigan lol
Jay Carrigan not on a world wide scale , thats a joke
Jay Carrigan a year late but your right they did actually. But overtime their empire is trying to be more modern thank goodness. Colonial thinking still lingers though today.
i think English is losing its colonial representations, in china alot of people learning to speak English with american accent. in many ways English is seen as the "default" international language,
Is it true that in SA a white student must get 80%, a colored student must get 60% and a black student 40% to get admitted to university?
Bro, it's the same in America.
Asian and white students are especially pushed down. They need to score much, much higher than blacks and Hispanics because of the affirmative action quota system.
I bet they have a similar system in SA
*****
Zip it, Superior Brown Bag. Colored is the SA term for mixed race people (bantu/khoisan/white/etc).
This happens in every race mixed country that has "Historical Debt" with some race.
Borto
Historical debt? I thought colonization was beneficial for Africa, especially SA as the most colonized country. Ask black South Africans if they want to move to a non-colonized African country. Ask any black American if he wants to go back to Africa. Where's the thanks for bringing the wheel, literacy, modern medicine and civilization? Where's the thanks for ending slavery? Africa would be a tenth of the population today if the Europeans didn't come. Africans wouldn't even have iPhones. How would they keep up with the Kardashians without iPhones? :)
white people don't 'get used to it'.
They start revolutions.
why should Afrikaans be the only alternative language though? Should be only English, or at least 2 or 3 more African languages, what makes Afrikaans special??
Because it belongs to the Dutch Empire? A language undestood on different CONTINENTS. th-cam.com/video/Bql--oQUGik/w-d-xo.html What makes Sotho so special?
Because it was Dutch 🙏
@@mmartijn78 And?? You're in Africa, not Europe
@@gevoel8293 So everybody else should be forced to learn English? You're in Africa, not Europe, most people here don't speak Afrikaans, and believe it or not, most people overseas don't wanna hear Afrikaans, so you're better off learning English anyway, it's MORE of a universal language and more understood across the world if you're gonna use that argument. Either include multiple African languages, or only English, it's really simple.
@@bluemantis6552 Ha Ha HA! Without Afrikaans there would not even be ANYTHING FROM SOUTH AFRICA FAMOUS NOR WOULD THE COUNTRY EVEN EXIST! And WE CAN'T INCLUDE AFRICAN LANGUAGES BECAUSE THE PEOPLE DID NOT DEVELPOPE THEM. Yes they are not scientific. And now you expect DUTCH PEOPLE TO WRITE DOWN and DO EVERYTHIG FOR YOU....lol BLESS YOUR SOUL.
I know this is really random, but appreciate the green grass and beautiful trees in South Africa. Boy do I miss the greenery. The country is so blessed.
Factss. And I will miss it when I Leeeave. Some other countries also have them though, like the US.
@@chill6445 it's a problematic country, but a beautiful one as well. Sorry you got robbed
Where did you move?
They, you know who I mean, muder the white boeren. Dutch government do nothing about that, Shame!
@@chill6445 same will happen in New York bud
So funny the Afrikaans is actually a weird way of talking Dutch
Lol well duh. It is Dutch-derived after all🙃
*a wrong way of talking Dutch
KTMD so is English
KTMD xD
South Africa was founded by Dutch. Black People did not come from South Africa 😂😂😂
Maybe I don't understand because I am not South African but didn't the guy say that the problem with Afrikaans was that it was the language of apartheid? Si instead he wants all classes taught in ENGLISH? Because that was never a language of colonialism...
I think the main problem here is South Africa has a lot of different people groups with different corresponding languages. I think their campaign to teach in English which is the lingua Franca in SA makes a lot of sense as it doesn't subjugate any one minority group. They way they put their point across was poor however.
Africans and English were both languages of Colonialism and Apartheid.
Gumardee
Maybe because english is the lingua franca that every SA can speak?
You wont understand. Its not only whites who speak Afrikaans.
AFRIKAANS WIL NEVER FALL
It was phased OUT!🤣🤣
"We have a right to study in our own language"
And yet black people are taught in English and Afrikaans. Middle finger to their home language, I guess.
Nothing stopping black people from creating universities to teach in their own language.
@@SI-cd7xs you're funny
@@Piriluk331 you’re right*
@@SI-cd7xs nothing stopping black people from kicking out all foreigners either...Would you go to China or South Korea and say well we are only going to teach you in English and French... Dont act like the black south africans dont have a valid point
What is their home language there?
It would be akin to banning English in Alabama, Mississippi, Texas, Georgia or the Carolinas. Let Afrikaans live and let live.
Victor Nthamburi nahhh, Afrikaans is an official language of SA. The US has no official language so that’s why there hasn’t been a strict law for anyone to learn any particular one for centuries though most people speak English.
@@Jprager no, it's beneficial to a small number of people. And it's funny cause no non white Afrikaans speakers are fighting it. English is a GLOBAL language. And their are Afrikaans classes available
English is a global language, no need to impose a language spoken by less the 8% on the rest of the country and international students. All public academic institutions will be in English, otherwise they should be in a language that most of south africa and africa as a whole understands (zulu).
If you want afrikaans, the netherlands is always there for you. This is africa.
No its not the equivalent.
Social Justice Warrior tbh i agree but not everyone speaks zulu, afrikaans is peobably more spoken in southafrica than zulu, schools etc should be in english or zulu and there should be optional classes in other languages la xhoza or afrikaans
Well I am an Afrikaans speaker and I speak English as a second language. Today I live in Europe. And I can tell you I learned German in no time. I also understand Dutch perfectly without having to learn it. I am very happy to have KEPT AFRIKAANS as my mother tongue. Without Afrikaans I will be just be lost like the other people that can only speak English. AFRIKAANS HAS HELPED ME A LOT!
Me too..Afrikaans has many languages! with a different accent.
@@alozorchidera6249 Afrikaans is a language, spoken in South Africa and Namibia and southern Botswana
HUH! I wonder why you understand dutch so perfectly without having to learn it!🤔🤔🤔
@@molebogengm3381 Dutch and Afrikaans are 90 % the same language Most of the Afrikaners the Boers are of Dutch Netherlands decent It was a Dutch colony til the Brits take over in 1795 Even the south African president Hendrik Verwoerd in the 1950 was born in Amsterdam the Netherlands
@@molebogengm3381 I learnt Afrikaans in less then a month but I ain't perfect in the language yet. Afrikaans is like what Ukrainian is for Russian and Scots for English. They look alike but not entirely the same either. Afrikaans as an official language exists since the 80's. Before that Dutch was the major language. That's why the wegcode of SA is .za because Suid Afrika/South Africa in Dutch is Zuid Afrika.
Afrikaans is language of oppression?... while English is not? All languages are precious cultural heritage in South Africa... And what about the millions of Coloured people? It's also their language. Did they oppress y'all as well? Hmm
How are you going to ban a living language that people use day to day?
Cannot fight prejudice with more prejudice 🤦♂️
Jy is n sleg poes
@Jeff York bye 👋🏽 learn to speak it
@Jeff York its like asking a chinese school in the PH founded by Filipino chinese people to not teach chinese classes lmao
@@teeno4725 ¿?
@Jeff York Minority language? I thought most people in South Africa spoke it to a degree?
i think English is a colonial language, too. (PS. No any racism just the truth. )
It is and the fact is that its less spoken in South Africa than Afrikaans.
So is Afrikaans.
The English didn't actually do much against the Native Americans. In fact they were attempting to create a Native American Nation which was a contributing cause of the US invasion of Canada in th war of 1812 (which should really be given a proper name)
You're also ignoring the fact that the British are responsible for 100 years of relative peace ending in 1914 with the outbreak of WW1.
They outlawed slavery in 1833, they also set up the West Africa Squadron which ended the atlantic slave trade and freed 150,000 slaves.
They also established the first free colony for freed slaves and provided protection to them from renslavement.
They 'encouraged' African rulers to stop enslaving minorities to trade as slaves.
They ended the Arab Slave trade (which had lasted 1000+ years and has restarted again)
They along with Portugal the USA and several other European Nations in the Med ended the Barbary Slave trade.
They Ended the Indian Slave trade.
They destroyed the Thuggee who were responsible for over 2 million murders in India.
They are the reason India is a united nation rather than fractured like Europe is with multiple nations etc.
And lastly but definitely not least they encouraged other European powers to abandon slavery often by force and by disrupting trade of slaves as previously mentioned.
If any nation in the history of the world has don't more to ends slavery it's Britain.
John Kevin How so?
As did Chinese, Japanese and Cavemen
I don't see what point you're trying to raise
English is a colonial language wtf are they saying afrikaans is colonial and horrible they say nothing about English
South Africa has no olther common language. They have eleven official languages, but none but English is spoken by everybody. So English it is.
It's different. English is not the language that was used to oppress them and it's a language that they almost all can understand in the country.
That shit goes over these low iq idiots heads.
The only way this can be overcome is if a native south African language becomes compulsory in schools
The Light A language can not oppress people.
Unpopular oppinion. Sure Afrikaans is a Sister language to Dutch, BUT it was born in Afrika, and didnt come to Africa on a ship like its being made out to be. Its an African language!
No it is not a African language... African languages fall into 3 category... Afro Asiatic,nilo Saharan and Niger Congo... Afrikaans does not belong to any of these family
@@NubiansNapata Maybe you should read my comment instead of just trying to win an argument. It OBVIOUSLY doesnt share any characteristics with any african language, but that doesnt change the fact it was first conceptualized in africa and is mostly ONLY used in africa.
I cant go around using afrikaans in any European country or anyplace overseas for that matter, only in the Netherlands and not without communication barriers either.
@@e_wa.n5036 still a European language.
@@NubiansNapata Uhm so is English, which is why the whole policy doesn't make any sense.
Easy. Make also Venda, Xhosa and Zulu obligatory languages.
Are you fucken crazy??? Whose land is this.??
Teaching the click language is kinda hard tho
@@saposaposaposapo7178 you gotta learn the same we have to learn afrikaans 🥲
@@tumiii1195 fair
@@tumiii1195 exactly I had to learn Afrikaans from Grade 2 - 7, I'm in High School now and I can finally do Xhosa (My home language) but as a first additional language.
Why not just teach the language of the place you grow up at. So Afrikaners are taught Afrikaans, English are taught English, Zulus are taught Zulu, etc. Makes sense to me you'd want to be taught in the language you're raised with. Doesn't it? There's nothing inherently wrong with a language just because some mean people used it in the past. Is German somehow wrong because of the Nazis? Is Arabic wrong because of ISIS? Shit makes no sense. What about the Afrikaners that were against apartheid? Damn.
You don't anything your talking about.
exactly
swissnor
What is it that I don't know, I'm really interested.
Are you Dutch, Flemish or South African?
swissnor
Dutch. Why?
Do some people understand democracy, afrikaans is part of our country
So are all other languages... we have 11 official languagues here in south africa. Why should Afrikaans ppl be given an advantage here!!.
We can't have ppl being taught in Afrikaans and some in English how fair is that.
We simply want to be equal here like u all are... me and u should be taught in English u here me Rajash 👀.
@Theme Fresh this joker is probably indian judging from his last name. Tottaly brainwashed
Theme Fresh It is and it always has been.
Sbonelo Xaba This is dumb people should learn in what ever language they want.
Completely besides the point. At UP there are 2 mediums to learn in English and Afrikaans. Why is it that the Afrikaans students can be taught in their own language but blacks Can't? It would be unrealistic to put all the native languages in place so it's fair if everyone learns in English.
Should Zulu and Xhosa be taught as teaching languages in South Africa too?
Zulu and Xosa don't have a history of literature so whereas teaching in Afrikaans preserves the history and literature - as it stems from Dutch, you would have to intentionally create new material in Zulu and Xosa from ground 0. So it's definitely possible - just don't know if anyone cares because there's not really any literary material and history to preserve, as they were historically purely languages of the tongue.
If the university is Afrikaans, then why the hell enroll your child to that university? That's like sending your kid to a Chinese university and demanding they teach in English. I'm going to be real here, that's honestly not the brightest thing to do.
Arunex
Chinese universities are in China.
It's a government-funded university - not a private one. Pull your poo brain out of your arse.
Fun fact, ALL colleges in India are taught in English.
lol, IKR.... that is like enrolling your child in a muslim school... and demanding they put pork on the menu...lol
Then they need to change their protesting demands...
They need to be calling for the school to be defunded by the government " AKA" taxpayers money.. If the institution will be ran like a private institution within a cultural aspect to it...
Or they could take advantage of the new red tape.. And request that the government also fund other cultural based schools.. Christian, Muslim, African, European, American, Russian, German.... hahahahaha.....
English is the only language everyone in South Africa understands. That’s why all the classes were in English when I went to university there.
All language courses should be by choice of students ,not compulsory,
Not everyone understands English actually. But yes it's the most 'universal' of our languages
True
If your a scholar in South Africa, you most definitely understand English.
There have been many studies done on the subject. Mother tongue education leads to better academic outcomes. These anti-Afrikaans protests are just a smokescreen to hide the fact that South Africa's ANC / EFF government has failed to build proper new tertiary education institutions in it's almost 30 year reign, because they were too busy looting our taxes.
1:16 when you’re getting a back massage
lol
That's very disrespectful, like moving to Canada and protesting a generation or two later for teaching in English.
We blacks should treat the whites the way we want them to treat us around the world! It's hypocritical to ask for something we would not give to others. Be an example South Africans.
That's such a lovely sentiment but unfortunately there's tens of millions of blacks who openly want white people gone from south Africa. And I'm sure many more secretly do to. And soon enough the good people won't be able to stop them and the government is becoming increasingly indifferent. The plight of the farmers is just the beginning.
Lovely comment friend, its sad that comments like yours are burried in vile racism from both sides.
Ideally it would be best seek complete independence from the whites by preventing integration. Their motives are usually rooted in white supremacy. Stop seeking equality and unity from the wolves in sheep's clothing. They have their lands, We must secure ours.
+poloko collen yeah, cause nuclear power os a good thing to have....
my gosh, how stupid R U people.
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What is wrong with Afrikaans? There is only one country in the world where it is spoken and why should it disappear? Should English also disappear in the USA and Australia because of the history? This is right-extremism, plain hate against a group. Don't destroy your beautiful country.
Africa is not a white continent. Europe is a white continent. Afrikaans(Dutch) is a European language. There is no trace of African in it at all.
+shesBlessed83 Don't be a racist. I live in Europe and I never would argument with someone based on skin color. No continent in the world is black or white or whatever, original languages don't exist anymore. Language is constantly in evolution. As a native Dutch speaker I can assure you Afrikaans isn't Dutch at all. It is only spoken in South Africa.
+Frans Van Evercooren I am not Racist. I just know that there is no African language used in Europe as a medium of instruction in universities.
+shesBlessed83 happy you aren't racist. No one knows exactly where the European languages are coming from. They are called Indo-European languages because they are related to languages spoken in India and elsewhere in Asia. But I don't see the point. It doesn't matter where they are coming from. South-America speaks Spanish and Portuguese, USA and Canada English and French, Australia and New- Zealand Engish, and many people in South Africa Afrikaans and English. We can't undo history. We have to see to what is now and go further from here.
If Africa is a black continent and Europe is a white continent, can we pack up all the blacks in Europe and send them back to you? And gladly take back the hard working skilled Afrikaners? Fair trade.
The sort of English the first black man speak should be banned...
ro deg ned
I live in Pretoria, and the guy probably speaks at least 3 languages, excluding English. Cut him some slack
the all-seeing Rinnegan if you can't understand him, then it doesn't matter how many languages he speaks
Annika Andersson His English sounds ferry Dutch/Afrikaans. How ironic...
Stfu
I support people using the language of their culture . To restore your distinct language , culture , identity in your education and administration is the first step to obtain a restore your politic autonomy and be free from English , french , Portuguese (cultural and political) influence , interference and manipulation .
But it doesn't make sense to make one language the official language over all others. You may as well make Zulu, Xhosa and all other languages mandatory. But there is need for one common official language- English as it is understood by all.
Afrikaans is spoken natively by a large chunk of the population.
The purpose of removing Afrikaans from the university is because of several valid reasons:
• Textbooks are written in English not in Afrikaans .
• English is the main medium of instruction in media and government.
• English is universally spoken so it's an incentive for all learners to study in English and thus have opportunities across the globe.
• Edit ( Afrikaans can be understood by Dutch speakers and vice versa. But the Dutch language is not global and nor is it anywhere near being the most spoken language in the world.)
• Number of people speaking Dutch - About 17-18 million
• Number of people speaking English - About 983 million and it is a global language.
Yeah
Isn't afrikaans just a different variation of Dutch?
@@dirmanbw336 Yes it is a modified form of Dutch. Dutch speakers can mostly understand Afrikaans. But then again Dutch is only spoken by about 17-18 million people. It's no nowhere near being the most spoken language and it's not a global language. English is spoken by 983 million, (almost a billion) and is a global language.
How can you force a university to teach in a language that has such a tiny demand? Is that not going to harm the prospects of students?
Fuck off afrikaans will stay
@@ak47goratatatat57 maybe try refuting my points lol?
So... replace one colonial language with another?
Sure, that'll heal the social-democratic aftereffects of apartheid. 😑
Hahaha indeed they missed the point somewhere :)
Hector Andem colonial language? Are you serious they replaced their language and forced it on the natives "Black Africans' in that country!
Hector Andem You can't avoid teaching English if you want to be able to compete in a globalised world. It's the language of trade, science, mathematics, computers etc etc. Restricting these African countries to their native languages may sound cool for the SJW on their SJW mission but all you'd be doing is crippling their ability to be able to compete in an ever increasing globalised world.
At least English has relevance outside of South Africa. Afrikaans is a small local provincial language while English is a Global business language.
Defeating Afrikaans is a Hegelian Distraction. I say Afrikaans is a language of South Africa. Afrikaans is not just a language of whites.
The aggro white guy throwing up his hands and shouting "this is OUR land!" 🤦♂️...is there no work in Afrikaans for irony?
They built South Africa, north eastern african migrants have no right to any of the land. It was entirely built by the Dutch
We will see how long hese 400 year old boers can last if all the blacks and coloured decided to team up on them and kick their asses out of the continent...you know... the same way they tried to do so by building apartheid states within the country.
@@DanteVital93 if the boers don't have any guns then you are just attacking civilians.
@@miloskocic1759 I don't condone killing of any civilians. That would mean there isn't any difference between me and apartheid presidents.
@@DanteVital93 the sin of the father is not the sin of the son.
why should there be afrikaans but no African languages that is unfair. African students were saying let there be english until African languages are introduced and then afrikaans will be introduced . But if there is no African languages then afrikaans must removed
Someone on here told me since I'm 50% black and 50% white I have to pick a side. I'm not African unless I pick that side. Why can't I be both at the same time.
@@jmundi2002 how so?
🤦🏽♀️Imagine us coloured people are not 50%white we are NOT biracia
@@ashleywildeman796 No, you are black
@@jmundi2002 No, Coloureds are MIXED. Stop propagating the damn One Drop Rule-a WHITE SUPREMACIST IDEOLOGY. That's even why coloureds in SA have their own classification as Coloureds. Not black or white, COLOUREDS(MIXED RACE).
@@LeratoM98 Black
1:16 guys almost started rapping
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That's the nigga blood.
You really funny
DE DE DE DE DE!
I saw this comment as that part played lol
A don’t worry you’ll burn in hell with em
Wishing the people of South Africa peace and love. Pray everyone moves forward in a safe, accepted manner.
Thank you
Thank you! We need it.
Thank you so much💕
Thanks man
In order to move forward we need to go backwards first. We cannot be expected to move on when issues of the past have not yet been resolved
Afrikaans is a beautiful language. Look to the future learn from the past.
Afrikaans is a guttural language like it's parent, Dutch. It is not beautiful.
@@VanaeCavae it's absolutely beautiful. But I'm Dutch, so that makes it very beautiful.
@@VanaeCavae What would you consider to be beautiful then?
@@GTRKT-qr5sf danish
@@eliezer4478 I can see how that sounds like a language thats easy on the ears, but I was asking the guy up top.
You know, despite all the petty stuff like poverty, aids, and other unimportant stuff, it's nice to see the youth of South Africa are fighting to solves the nation's true problems...
...what language is being taught in schools. If you really want to "decolonize" more, you should also stop speaking English as well.
The Guardian of Truth that city was not built by Europe they may have invaded it but not built, stop taking credit fir everything
Rodger Jackson ...those whites were born in south africa, their forefathers built the universities.. so yes they do belong and their language made it possible... if that is the case after 400 years the blacks don't belong in Europe England or America..... or is what you and your family made for anyone to take destroy and change.. because they feel like it and have a right because they are human....
Do you know those ppl released AIDS to the African public?
Getting rid of english in the education system is useless. Most people already speak that language and it would pretty much be counter productive because you would have multiple generations speaking one language and then a whole new generation speaking a totally different language. Also that would be a lot of money just to try and switch the whole. I know that the british did some really horrible things during colonization. Nobody is arguing that, but in order for a country to move forward i think there are waayyy more important problems than changing a language; Matter of fact, it would actuallu create more problems like not being able to understand each other. You will have kids speaking a whole other language than their parents and now while their parents are working and trying to supply for their families, your forcing them to take up time learning to speak a whole other language, which is really just useless and counter productive.
@@rodger040674 what kind of racist propoganda are you talking about?
Protesting Afrikaans because of the Afrikaners were the ones who created apartheid but speaking english, the language of the people who oppressed every group of people, especially the Afrikaners.
Sounds about right
They didn’t oppress every group, that’s exaggerated
@@tomblack4634 lol ya they did.
Maybe _chill they didn’t actually.
Cj Nuwe in comparison to what went on else where, yes, they are a joke.
@@tomblack4634 Ireland, British Raj, aboriginal people in Australia, indigenous people of America and many others...
"We all have a right to study in our own language" and yet Tswana, Sepedi, Ndebele, Xhosa, Venda and Swati people are taught in English.
education department . which is run by who again?
@@ivanalekseevich5574 My point was those groups never complain
@@Sthuthukile My point still stands. also dont know what you been on but we had alot of people complain about being taught in english and not in zulu, xhosa and such
@@Sthuthukile Just because they dont complain it doesnt mean it isnt right. They should have rights to be taught in their own language, but apparently they dont care to fight for protecting the right to education in their own language. Only the Afrikaan-speakers do. Afrikaans is the third most natively spoken language in the country (ahead of English) and the main language in most of Western South Africa spoken by 15% of the population: 60% of whites (2.7 million), 75% of Colored people (4.8 million people), 1,5% of Black S.Africans (600 000) and 4,5% of Indians (58 000). Its not a matter of race.
Yes you want to study in your own language and in south Africa we have 11 language which are not a medium of instruction in higher institutions. The dominant language used is English. How special are you to be taught in your own home language. We also have our home languages.
They think they are special
Ke dumellana lewena mme😂😂💯✌
I believe that a county have to keep its culture. With that means keeping the language. If there is anybody who wants to live on it, or study, it must follow the country culture and laws. There is not point the country changing its teaching language because of foreigners, or people who wants to change the country policy because of their own joy. For that Africa shouldn’t be called Africa and every country should be called Europe or asia or America. There is things that make a country different, it’s not about racism it’s about respect. You won’t ever put a pants that doesn’t suit you. In the same way you won’t travel to China to study if you only talk Portuguese. Respect ✊ is the key for equality
Liana Li - the best comment I have seen thus far. I absolutely agree with you. I wish all extinct languages were still available to those that are interested in learning or knowing them. I’m sure many cultures wish they still knew or had access to their native tongues. Nothing wrong with learning or knowing many languages, but to oppress any native language in any place is wrong.
You should educate yourself before you write nonsense.
Make Humanity Great Again if you don’t like it make your self a great comment in favour of this students. Don’t come here trying to act as a judge because everyone has liberty of expression.
Make Humanity Great Again - how many languages do you speak and/or write? I’m guessing just one. Perhaps you should rethink your online name. To make humanity great again - you first need to be humane!!
Liana Li - I was talking to making humanity great again. Not you. I figured you spoke several languages. I never assumed you being any race. How you came to that conclusion is beyond me, especially considering you don’t know if I’m black, white or Asian. 🙄
eff should be focusing on how to improve conditions for the millions of Blacks disadvantaged by apartheid. instead of trying to erase the africaaners from SA society
They always there when it comes to race
They have so much influence but they don't use it to empower
I think removing the language will have a negative impact on those who already studied in mostly Afrikaans, and making everything English, won’t it be hard to transition for those?
Hi sushi💗
They were already taught English as a 2nd language. They have backgrounds in English and can understand it quite well. If anything being taught in afrikaans gave them an unfair advantage, one not granted to any other native language. So this should be seen as a way of evening the plane field
As if its not already hard for those are not English and have to learn in English just to be in that University.
@@molebogengm3381 If you ask my high school kids to study in English (their second language), they would outright fail. 2nd language education isn't on the same level as 1st language education. People who have studied English from the beginning have less of a disadvantage, but honestly, a country should teach in all of its official languages. We're French btw, not Afrikaans.
Afrikaans is a very important language, removing it is like wanting to remove Zulu, languages deserve to be respected, Afrikaans, Zulu, English, they are all important, I hope they do not remove Afrikaans, that Afrikaans will remain forever
Afrikaans is only spoken by the whites of South Africa. English is the second language of all South Africans. Use your brain kid.
@@GreoGreoewwww so you prefer one colonizer
@@Србомбоница86 Yours is like calling a black "slave" in the middle of the 21st century, which is ridiculous, people like you who continue to complain about colonization, which no longer exists, and label their descendants as colonizers, who are not, not worth it, people like you are so racist, if they were born in Africa, They are African, even if it burns and even if it hurts, they are, Afrikaans is a beautiful language and deserves its place, if you don't believe that and you're still living in the past, complaining about colonization that ended 300 or 400 years ago, then you're just an unhappy, lonely, mediocre racist
@@Србомбоница86ewwww so you prefer one slave
@@Србомбоница86Black Lover, GET OVER It
Here in The Netherlands, most Bachelors are in Dutch, but almost all Masters are taught in English only. German students, who make up around 20% of the total number of students at my university, hapily take the compulsory Dutch language course and most of them can speak Dutch fluently after a few months. It kind of makes sense that the Masters are in English because of international competitance. Though the level of English in the classes given isn't always the best... I think the Afrikaners have a right to have their classes taught in Afrikaans, at least for the bachelor degrees at historically "Afrikaans" universities like Stellenbosch.
YtheMain cuz ur language is similar to germany
YtheMain It still is stupid though to some extent. We teach the Indians, the Chinese and ourselves in broken English while forgetting the fact most of our own students aren't going abroad. Our universities and universities of applied sciences are only focusing on international prestige, not on quality particularly.
You just defied your own logic. In the Netherlands Dutch is the lingua franca. You gave an example that German students learn in Dutch. In South Africa English is the lingua franca. So, why don't Afrikaans students learn in English then or start an Afrikaans only university? Why are they trying to impose their language on everyone in a university that everyone attends?
Germans and Dutch can understand each other very well, if you speak clearly. North German (Plattdütsch) is very similar to dutch. Atleast for me its not very hard to understand dutch.
YES, it's fine that they are given the right to do so, but the problem lies with fact that, now students that are not Afrikaans are being forced to be taught in English and Afrikaans only. We can't be taught in our home language and the ones that do, are usually not up to par in terms of school facilities and much so. So basically most schools owned by the government which aren't in the townships only offer to teach in English or Afrikaans, and the Afrikaans learners have the advantage of being taught literally every subject in their home language , whereas we'd have to learn English first then get taught in English at the same time, being forced to learn Afrikaans.
I don't think that's fair enough for us black learners, but I'm also not suggesting the removal of another language for the benefit of others.
And this friends, is when instead of reconciliation there is revenge. I do not predict a promising future for South Africa
I hope you're wrong
@@Exxperiment626 yup
This comment checks out. You were from the future.
If it is a English speaking country then speak English, if it’s a German speaking country than speak German, and if your Afrikaans speaking country then speak Afrikaans
It's more complicated than that there has to be compromise on both sides
Afrikaans is the 5th language in south Africa
We have 11 official languages in South Africa and afrikaans is not even in the top 4 of those language
Good luck with that thought in SA. They have like 11 languages.
I would like to see this logic becoming true in a country like India with 25 languages widely spoken and like 800 spoken by minorities or in a lesser extent.
You know, it's kind of crazy these afrikaans speaking people don't even try to learn zulu and xhosa.
clearly you ever meant an Afrikaner.
Languages must not be forgotten no matter where there are from .
What is the language? Forgotting and getting new, mixing and separating is normal process of language formation. Also, language is meant to be the way to communicate, not to "remember". If you cannot communicate with language it is not language. And by communication i mean reading, learning etc.
The Dutch can’t understand Afrikaans can they?
@@Will-nb8qkwe can understand it but some sentences are different. Dutch has a bigger vocabulary then Afrikaans. For an Afrikaner it's less easy to understand. Much like Old English and Frisian.
Either you accept Afrikaans, either Afrikaners should form an independant country.
Yes in Europe
No, in South Africa. And yes, also in Europe, it is already done in Belgium and Netherlands.
+Dominique Beaulieu South Africa= Africa and it has nothing to do with European continent and language.Wrong continent for that Dutch language.
Wrong continent for English as well.
+Dominique Beaulieu yeah, true but English is not in the same level as Dutch language. What I mean is even if I travel all over the world, at least I will meet people who can easily converse with me in English than Dutch. English it's an international language so it can't be stopped being used every continent. Besides Africans don't like SAn Dutch
As a black american I think that Afrikaans is a beautiful language..I mean should we replace german with Hebrew because of ww2 ..wake up SA
Couldn't have said it any better
Except hebrew is nowhere as near as being indigenous to germany
al gonzález tbh neither is afrikaans it's just basically broken dutch
@@algonzalez6853 Yiddish could be a better example.
Astonishing how people who came from elsewhere to Africa, and malevolently destroyed everything that was originally African; their history, culture and language now claim that they have a right to study in their own language.
Actually what' astonishing is that you talk about ''decolonisation'' of a language by imposing to them the language of the greatest colonial empire of all time that is the British.
@@jimakisspd nope ! Never suggested imposing English. Simply pointed out that African culture was destroyed by those who now claim rights to their culture in Africa.
To engage as intellectuals you have to actually be an intellectual.
Underrated comment.
Yet intellectuals are informed on how Afrikaner cultere had been a corner-stone for Apartheid.
@@jstevinik3261 they mean the black guy can't be intellectual. Obviously.
Thanks captain obvious
To be educated you must be educated
If Afrikaans will be allowed then Sesotho, isixhosa, isizulu and other languages should be used too
So please take down the European infrastructure, European English language you don’t have problem with, European architecture and the European political system you enjoy today. Yes, apartheid wasn’t good. Racism isn’t good, but this anti-Afrikaner and anti white ideology is ridiculous
😑 what u said makes u less radical???
It's just a language even coloureds and some black people speak Afrikaans not just white people..so this doesn't mean it's about anti afrikaner and anti white
"this is our land"
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Holy shitt! I'm Tunisian, our official first language is Arabic and we're being taught in French !
What the fuck
Welcome back to the latin empire my dudes, it's been a long time,
It's a joke ok
What the shit
Because they are preparing you for your sure immigration to Europe.
@@WillyTonkaReal But Knowing grench won't be useful in Germany, Or Sweden.
“Students protest against using Afrikaans because of colonial reasons”
Seems kinda dumb, I mean it’s not a very smart thing to d-
“They support using English instead”
wait wat
People think England is worse that it actually is.
KTMD actually in term of violence committed Portugal and the British were the least violent because their method of establishing a dominant presence in their colonies was more diplomatic than brute force. But just because I say more diplomatic, it doesn’t necessarily morally right.
@Jeff York invalid reason. Doesn’t mean you should cleanse a language because you don’t like it.
@@tomblack4634 Look up the fucking South African War and see what the British did to the Afrikaners. The British were ruthless
@Alisson Becker the native Americans were mostly wiped out by diseases. And that was the Americans, not the British.
Isn't learning in English is going to help you to work abroad program extend your reach far from your Homeland
Not if you choose Asia or South America
@@anacamejo4640 even in Asia and south America English is common
@@shadowdawns889 Don't know about Asia. But i know it isn't common in South America. Im from there, and although i was raised in EU, i visited often. And everything in South America is doubbed. I tried speaking to them in English, they understood nothing. Less when i went to Brazil. They see no reason to learn English when they can get by with Spanish and Portuguese.
@@anacamejo4640 here in Asia almost none of the people speak English but English is still important for educated and commercial purposes
@@shadowdawns889 Is it the same in every Asian country?
Like I said, I don't know much about linguistic education in other nations, other than some EU countries and South America.
Lol that crucified girl made me laugh so hard! like come on! is it really that bad to learn English? you know, like... THE REST OF US!!
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I one time met a person from South Africa and I spoke the very little Afrikaans I knew, (Not that great Afrikaans), but the person thought that it was great the little I knew and had became joyful that a non-South African can appreciate the dying language.
Lmao it's not a dying language. It's still very much a prevalent language in SA today
This video is so funny. I don’t know whether it’s the guy with the SS bolt, the “de de de de de de de” or the girl sitting down chained to the sign but I was in stitches.
Where was the "de de de de de de de" guy?
Around 1:15
Afrikaans is a cool language. Groeten uit Holland! 😃
Dankie God Seen jou
Am thinking of Indian scenarios.. where we mainly speak our own language(regional) and also English as a secondary language.. as we cannot communicate our fellow Indians in other states.. we see no problem.. giving importance to your mother tongue is not a bad thing either !
That’s actually a good idea.
It is unfair to not be able to teach in ur language but the apartheid was just like yesterday ago the country is still recovering.
Eyi bafo i am in tears... the comments here are so unbelievable. I live in a middle class with blacks and some whites, i always smile with them but it is amazing how selfish the comments here are. Woow 😪
You shouldn’t consider apartheid in something like this. Just say “alright, what’s the majority language?” and teach in that language in schools, maybe even give support to people who speak other languages.
@@dogol284 nope. Is their country and they put the rules. If white ppl don't like it then they should go back to their countries
@@dogol284 bruh apartheid is the reason why this problem is in the first place
@@molebogengm3381 yeah and Egypt’s enslavement of Jews is the reason we have the pyramids, but we’re not gonna tear them down.
The past is always unfortunate, but you can’t try to enact revenge on people who are long gone, especially when said revenge is inconvenient to everyone around you. The same applies to reparations in the US.
There is not a single ex-slave alive in the US, as there is not a single slave owner alive in the US. If there is, they’ll be put in jail.
If we were really worried about making history right, we’d kick every non-native out of America and only teach native languages. The problem is that it’s monumentally stupid.
This is so stupid.. Why giving up on Afrikaans? You people can speak Dutch, German, Scandinavian in no time. Would be a huge lost for all people of South Africa.
Afrikaans is seen as an exclusive language and English more universal. But it's true the native South Africans should learn Afrikaans too and maybe have better relations with Afrikaners.
Exactly! I think they have been fooled by powerful people making a play for their country. They want to turn their nation into an English speaking nation, nothing to do with apartheid, everything to do with generating a whole workforce out of a nation. They know English is economically the safest worldwide language. Taking away their own identity, dressing it up as being against apartheid. It's ridiculous. Those in government only care about lining their own pockets, not the black or white people in SA. They will be filled with big banks and big pharma within 10 years and their country will no longer be their own.
"you people"?
@@IaMSpeaks Idiot.
@@BLane-xr1ic You could never call me an idiot. I outshine you in every category.
When Indonesia was free from Dutch after WW2, the use of Dutch was banned "softly and gradually" until it totally vanished in 70's. No body speaks Dutch now in Indonesia, not merely because Dutch is a colonial language, but it's mostly because it is not "promosing" for better future.
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No true. In Maluka still talk Dutch. Not all but many.
When Indonesia still was Dutch, they will be number 1 in the world, for sure.
Afrikaans sal staan. no one can should abolish the language. I'm black en ek praat Afrikaans
can and should*
Nee bru. Wie die fok is jy, chomma?
I can't remember my post.. but all I can say is people shouldn't try and kill Afrikaans.. it's like the whole statue issue.. people are quick to try and kill someone's heritage and they forget that once it's gone it can't be replaced.. bra I'm black but I have no problem with white people..
Reb. ek like jou.
You are colonized you're not black. Black is a term for African Americans. If you were black you will not call yourself black you will call yourself African because that is your land.