How Waterproof is Noodlers Bulletproof Black Ink?
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- Is Noodler's Bulletproof Black Ink waterproof? Find out in this video.
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From experience, I know that Noodler is very good bulletproof ink but only after it fully dries (this can take a few hours) and is written on cellulose paper without any additives. One needs to remember that dry to touch doesn't mean that it is fully dry.
These reviews help me decide on what art supplies to get. Thank you for everything you do.
Welcome :-)
Teoh, I put 5ml of this Noodlers bulletproof black in an ink vial. I then add approximately 1ml of water. This solution changes the ink completely for me. It does NOT bleed with water when I do this. But, using my Pitt brush pens over it will smear it. So for watercolor work, just a slight dilution with water makes the ink perfect for me. Also, it’s so black that the small dilution does not affect the dark black color.
Eugene Wooddell Jr excellent advice! Thank you!
Thanks. I got to try that
Teoh Yi Chie Please post an updated video when you do. I have a bottle purchased ten years ago and one I received last year. The older ink is thicker and slower to dry than when first purchased. Despite the metal cap, I would guess there has been some evaporation making the ink too concentrated. It flows much better with the addition of a little distilled water. That makes it more economical as well.
This is super helpful! I've been trying to start water coloring my drawings and having paper and ink combination reviews like this give me a good place to start.
Always have found it a little bemusing to read of people who are frustrated by the time ink takes to dry. This has always been the case, hence blotting paper exists. I am getting on a bit, but this was one of the things regarded as vital when I learned calligraphy as a teen, and it seems some would benefit from it. Of course there is a cost in that you get a different quality to your line, it is not evenly black, or tined if you use coloured inks but, if you do take this into account then you can make it part of your creative process. Would agree Indian ink is the ultimate solution, I have one of those Osmiroids, I still think you have to be careful to flush them out. And size is designed to keep anything wet on the surface, so it must make a difference, how you use your ink will determine what that is. Great test Teoh, and has spared me buying more ink than I can use in this lifetime!
I recently bought a bottle of the ink. After your blog review and the discussion i decided to shake the ink well before use. I used it on different papers with a duke 209 pen. The ink was nearly directly dry. Only the end if a line had "pool" of ink that took longer to dry. But after that the ink was waterproof.
Good you did this review! I was thinking to get noodler's bullet proof as my school ink, but if it takes ages to dry, then it would be super inpractical. I was also hoping this to be less expensive alternative for Platinum Carbon black. But even if that ink dissolving to water isn't looking that bad here, I know with watercolor pen and wash style it looks so much worse. Thank you so much of this great review!
very interesting! I've had similar problems too with other "waterproof" inks depending on the papers. It doesn't bother as much anymore though because my style has developed into painting with watercolors first and then inking the drawings after
Hi Teoh, thank you for this very informative review. I use a micron as a sketch pen but I'd like to start using a fountain pen with ink, so this review is very helpful. Thanks for sharing :)
I have been using DeAtramentis Document Black ink with excellent results. I haven't tested as many papers as you did, but I have no complaints so far. In the past I have used various waterproof markers but learned the hard way that it's always best to test on a scrap of paper since some surfaces affect the ink. Thanks for another helpful video. I had considered trying the Noodler's, but will stay with DeAtramentis Document since it performs so well for me.
I agree with you here, I bought some ages ago and I have hardly used Noodlers Bulletproof. It wasn't much how waterproof it was but more its really slow drying time that made drawing outside really difficult. Been happy with carbon ink and the ink in Pentel brushes.
great! I was just about to buy this ink. thanks for your work
I can recommend trying out Rohrer & Klingner document black. Much more consistent in use. Really waterproof. Dries reasonably fast also.
I agree, I have RyK Dokumentus Brown and is waterproof in all papers, dries fast!
Christian S I agree. The only problem with that ink is that it can dry very fast on the nib if you’re using a really fine pen. It dries almost instantly on mi pilot penmanship ef nib, and that is very annoying when trying to draw.
@Yasmine S. Why?
Thats what I use and its very very good. Dries fast. I didnt trust Noodlers claims at all too many mixed results.
Yes, but unlike noodler's inks it is a heavily pigmented ink that can damage a nib.
Thanks for sharing. I sketch with Sailor 極黑 Black Ink. I noticed the similar problem. The ink is not as waterproof as I would like it to be when using it alone. Nonetheless when one dilutes it (say half clear water and half ink), the mixture is actually very waterproof. An additional benefit is that the grayish color looks really good with watercolor. :)
Tested this with my Noodler's, it looks like it works! 👍
I've never used Noodler's Black myself but I have drawn with Lexington Grey and Bad Black Mocassin with both a brush pen and a fountain pen EF-F nib. I'm very much satisfied with how waterproof they are.
I"m glad you did this test. Wonder if the Lexington Gray would behave similarly?
Very nice art. Very good lesson🌻
Your videos are so informative. I appreciate you trying the inks on different papers was very helpful. Everyone is different on how they do art and what they want their materials and tools to do. I can tell this ink isn't for ME, because I know I'm not about to wait that long for that ink to dry.
Waiting for the ink to dry is sometimes quite irritating.
Watercolor paper also has a sizing additive on/in it, so you may be seeing that here interfering with the ink.
Could be the reason
Hey, Teoh, an ink I would recommend you give a shot would be Noodler's 'Heart Of Darkness' if you haven't already. I have the 4.5oz bottle, but I've noticed that on pretty much _every_ paper I've tried it on(even on mulberry paper!) once it dries it's almost as waterproof as India ink. I use it in my Kuretake No.40(big thanks for your review on that btw! Love this pen.) because it's jet black and kind of a cooler tone like real Sumi ink.
That and X feather...
Great review Teoh! I've seen this as a hit or miss ink, I've not used it enough in drawings as I mostly write. I've heard better waterproofness from the Lexington Gray ink. I've yet to really test both for waterproofing even though I have them. ^^;;
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Oh, Noodler's ink! Having tried quite a few - lots of them with peculiar flow and drying properties - I'm not all that surprised by your offset problem, Teoh. As for waterproofness, my guess is that Nathan's definition means that there will always be a clearly legible trace left after a soaking, but he's not so bothered by some dye running. That seems reasonable to me, since he sees himself as mostly in the business of producing tamper-proof rather than drawing ink. All the fountain pen friendly iron gall inks work well, although some have a dye component which will run - the problem with those is that they are nearly all on the blue-black spectrum, although Akkerman's is pretty much pitch black. I think that the moral of this story is that in mission critical line and wash applications, the old dip pen (or Rotring) and India ink are your best friends.
Yes, tamper proof as in signed documents and checks. With Nathan's background I'm pretty sure it is not intended for use as a drawing and sketching medium. Results differ with professional artist supplies with regards to pigments used on what paper. Noodlers ink is aimed at a different market, the fact that it works as well as it does for artists is a plus.
Thank you for doing this test. I need to pick up some Strathmore paper, I see. My biggest problem with smearing black ink comes with using alcohol markers --copics in particular. I've ruined more ink drawings because of the paper and the ink smearing.
Platinum carbon black ink. Works great..dries fast, is waterproof..
I found that the watercolor paper sizing coating stops the ink from bleeding in. The waterproof ink works well on bristol board that doesn't have that coating. The bristol doesn't even need the drying time. So I use that now. But it was disappointing to find that out after I bought the ink specifically to use with watercolors.
if you want a noodler's ink that will not pool like this on top of the paper resulting in it reacting with other paper or washing off you'll need to use the Bernanke black. it will soak in better and very fast, that is key in making sure that all the ink properly reacts.
Thanks Teoh. I had similar problems with the Bulletproof ink and stopped using it. Now I only use Platinum Carbon ink.
I have never had problems with this ink bleeding. I have used it in a Moleskine watercolor sketchbook but have now switched to making my own sketchbooks with Fabriano Artistico - 100% cotton paper. It has never bleed on this paper.
You shouldn't be surprised that the 100% cotton ran to the extent that it did, since Nathan's formula is bonding w/ cellulose. One note about the Leda sketchbook, which DOES take Noodlers black very well (and I bought at your recommendation). They ARE great sketch books, but the paper really doesn't handle water well. The paper holds ink beautifully and can be water colored upon to great effect, but the paper really buckles like nobody's business.
To my great surprise I have had really wonderful results using Noodlers black and water color in the Moleskine water color sketch book. As usual, drying time for the ink is always an issue come up but I have had wonderful urban sketching results and I find that having a cut piece of heavy bond or watercolor paper to stick in between the pages I've just worked on helps to blot the ink.
Sadly, especially for those of us who are committed fountain pen users, the only sure way you can be guaranteed of dark black ink that holds up against any water color media you want to try on any paper you wanna try, is good old fashioned India ink. ( I actually dug out an old Osmiroid Sketch fountain pen that I bought decades ago, which is specifically designed to be used with India ink, and even though the nib is not the most graceful, it has been very satisfying to be able to use India ink in a fountain pen even with the very moderate capacity that its converter has. And then of course, there is the good old Rapidograph technical pen, and all it takes is a look at some of Robert Crumb's old sketch books to show that you can have remarkable results with India ink in a Rapidograph or technical pen. Something to explore…)
Cotton papers DO contain cellulose. My suspicion is that the sizing on watercolor papers is interfering with Noodler's ink boding with the paper fibers.
I’ve been using the bulletproof ink for a few months, now , with the fountain pen , and then waiting a little ( maybe half hour or less) , and applying watercolor .. occasionally I’ll see a tiny bit of “ bleeding” but very rarely .. I also use the sepia( bulletproof brown) , and have no issues with it as well...
I really enjoy using them both. I was surprised to see the results of your tests..
thanks, as always ...
Looks like it really pays to test supplies out under one's own conditions.
I don't really have much to say about this ink. I'm much more of pen person. I've just sort of dabbled a bit with fountain pens. The one thing I do know is you have a life time supply of Noodler's Bulletproof Black ink. 😉 Thanks for doing this though. I'm sure a lot of people using Noodler's are pleased to see this information.
Great review. I use Rapidograph ink, mostly because it’s available locally, and I’ve never had a problem with it. It is comparatively pricey though. A 22 ml bottle (the only size I’ve seen ) is $7 CDN ($5 US).
I think Rotring ink is shellac-based, and that is the cause for great waterproofness on both cellulose and cotton.
its a good quality ink. it comes in lots of color''s as Ive enjoyed watching all your reviews.
Thanks 😁
I found that any minute amount of excess ink that isn't directly bonded to the paper will cause a smear.
My solution was to let it dry, then prime the piece by wiping off the excess ink pigment with a pourous paper towel or kleenex.
Very time consuming, but it helps. Not necessarily bulletproof as I'd like, but it's more resistant than Namiki.
Yes, part of partaking in the tradition of fountain pens can be having to familiarize oneself with 'blotting paper' or the equivalent. I take several sheets of cartridge paper specifically to act as a blotter if I have to suddenly close the book I was writing in and go.
Perfect!!!!
Thanks for your review Teoh....a very interesting and thorough review but "inkconclusive" results (sorry)....as a De Atramentis ink user for the last few years I've always wondered if I was somehow missing out since so many people swear by Noodlers bullet proof....do you think humidity has much to do with ink bleeding.... I know Singapore is very tropical...does the dampness somehow get deep into the paper ?
It's definitely inconclusive. I can't tell if there's any pattern. So the best advice is to always test first on the paper before doing anything serious.
Since I've just gotten into fountain pens I got some samples of noodlers ink and did a water brush test on Strathmore 500(100% cotton). 5 minute and 24 hour dry time. Lines and solid circles.
Lexington Gray and 54th Massachusetts were no problem after 5 min, lines and solid areas. So yay for that. I don't always want stark black lines anyways.
Black Eel left a pale smear after 5 minutes, even less after a day. Bigger smear if I scrubbed the brush over it. It would be okay if I didn't mind a slight gray halo.
Noodlers black still smeared after a couple of days, so it was the worst.
After a week or so I tried brushing them again before bed as an afterthought and Black Eel and Black were solid! Somewhere between the first day and that week it dried 😊 So they can be used but it's not quick paint/urban sketch ink. At least on the paper I used.
But if I ever have to write a check and it falls in a puddle I'm okay.
I've read/reviews that Polar Black is supposed to be good for watercolor but I didn't get a sample of it. Someone ran the faucet over the writing and the paper dissolved but the ink didn't fade. I'll get a sample when I reorder the Rohrer & Klinger hehe (always good to have alternatives).
I read that Noodler's Bulletproof inks have a chemical in them that allow the inks to bond with the cellulose in paper. Most watercolor papers have sizing on them. I believe that the sizing is preventing the ink from penetrating into the paper fibers and that's why the inks run even after they are dry.
Hi really interesting and helpful 😊 Nice day 😊
Hi Teoh- Great video that I am just stumbling across now. I like drawing with black ink and then applying a watercolor wash on top, but have found that all the fountain pen inks that I've tried will bleed, even ones advertised as "Waterproof". Like you, I've found that Noodler's Bulletproof Black bleeds when painted over. May I ask what you have found to be the most reliable fountain pen ink for watercolors? Thanks! Keep up the good work!
These are my recommended waterproof inks that are safe for use in fountain pens www.parkablogs.com/content/waterproof-fountain-pen-inks-drawing
Noodlers is great for alcohol markers just amazing!!
If a company states their ink is water resistant / proof it shouldn't matter how much ink you use 😕
Hi Teoh, great info as always -thanks !! Can this ink be used in Pentel pocket brush pen ? Thanks.
You can, but better to use ink that dries faster than this, such as Platinum Carbon
For smoothness that's not expensive like photo paper (photo paper is the smoothest paper to write on for our amazing fountain pens), I truly high recommend, linen paper (it has no linen, it' just called that). It'll fail it smudge test though but if smoothness is the main concern for that heavenly smooth writing, without breaking the bank, linen paper is the way to go :-)
God bless you.
I had tested noodlers on my paper and found the same results, that it depended upon the paper, but mostly was not waterproof for me. (Or took forever to dry)
It's a very good video testing the capabilities of the bullet proof ink! Now do you think a "hack" for this ink smudging when you paint over could be putting a clear wash of water to remove the excess ink and then blotting it out with paper towel? To then work on the watercolor painting?
Or use a workable spray fixative. This may affect the absorbency of the paper for watercolor however.
I also notice that the bottle says that the ink is waterproof on "celluose paper".
If there is a sediment issue after storing in the bottle, wouldn't it cause a problem with a fountain pen if you left it in there? As always great review.
Best to wash out the ink if you are not using the fountain pen for long period of time.
What nib are you using on your Pelikan fountain pen?
Noodler's 'waterproof' inks contains a water soluble dye and a water soluble cellulose coupler for that dye. It doesn't matter if the ink has dried or not. Regardless, water will dissolve any dye that hasn't reacted with the cellulose (and cotton is cellulose as well, and so is wood and linen; the ink will react). Problem factors here are: The watercolor paper sizing, which stops some of the ink absorbing down into the cellulose fibers. Not shaking the ink bottle every time before filling the pen, mixing coupler and dye (this should apparently be done with all modern cellulose reactive inks). And that regardless, there will still always be some unreacted black dye leaking out. Noodler's 'Heart of Darkness' is better, but also leaks dye slightly. My method was that I used a plastic eraser on the lines before using watercolors - that helps with HoD, but smears N'sB -, but I now plan to switch to Sketchink or Platinum Carbon.
I use DeAtramentis and Super5.
Ive both seen it bleed and behave perfectly without slightest feather. Really depends on paper. However Lexington Grey I've never seen bleed under any circumstances if anyone wants to try that :)
I bought their Heart of Darkness black thinking “waterproof” meant that it would be completely untouchable by water. I was wrong. I ran my own tests, which included sticking my 0%cotton watercolor paper into the dehydrator for 10hrs at 95-125 degrees F and left over night after that. After 21 hrs this paper and the ink was BONE DRY!!! I then ran water over it and it still behaved JUST THE SAME as my tests that were wet within about 20 mins of dry time-which was SUPER annoying to say the least!! I purchased this to use specifically with watercolor paints and hoping by “bulletproof” and “waterproof” it would do the job the way I needed it to!
In one of my tests, I blotted off the excessive water and it seemed to not leave as much residual ink behind on the paper, but my results were far worse than yours bleeding ink everywhere.
I feel as though their “waterproof” definition was to mean that it will not wash off and it doesn’t, it just bleeds all over the place. I feel like I’m a way, this could use more clarification so people like me, who want to use it around water, don’t ruin their art win the process and get frustrated in the process!
For anyone who’s interested, their 54th Massachusetts blue ink held up to water a lot below than this black ink did, but that was also in a finer nib pen as well, so interpret that however you’d like.
I highly recommend that you do your own testing, ESPECIALLY if you’re using their inks in your artwork and/or with watercolors.
THIS ink requires +cellulose paper+ (specially designed for!) and is definitive waterproof, bulletproof and tamper resistant.
Can we use Daler Rowney FW Acrylic Ink Bottle in fountain pen ???
I’m very surprised with this test Teoh. Since I use the Noodler’s black ink ( about 18 years ) - black and lexington gray - with my Lamy Safari or Pelikan (or 3 - 4 other fountain pen ) size M, I’ve NEVER had any problem like that. I use essentially Khadi sketchbook rough paper, but other too. This ink is for me the best. It does not damage the pen. One time with my fude nib fountain pen I’ve had some small traces on the other page, because my features were very large. So ... it’s very difficult to say my impressions about this test.
May I know which pen you use to match the Noodler's Black ink so well.
@@wongkemba7485 as you can see in my text : Lamy Safari and sometimes a Pelican fountain pen, both size M.
@@isabellecade277 thanks, can I know how many years do your safari works?Said Lamy is durable.i am newbie, don't know "features" means in writing/ink world?
@@wongkemba7485 oooh many many years ! you can have total confidence in this product. It's really a good value for money !
@@isabellecade277 thanks for reply. It helps a lot.
I had similar results as with Noodlers Black. I use DeAtramentis or platinum carbon black when I want to be sure of waterproofing... but since they are pigment based I only use one dedicated pen for them. But now I tried Noodlers Black Eel! Its great! Almost as good as platinum or Dea and much better than the regular Noodlers black when it comes to waterproofing :)
My question is this on textured compressed pulp paper that’s been dyed by fabric dye stick to it and be waterproof and if dye that same paper with India ink stop the bleeding of the fabric dye and make the paper waterproof with the India ink on it?
My Noodlers Bulletproof Black, Lexington Gray, 54th MA, and First Emperor Red (magenta, actually) are unaffected by water when dry to the touch on my cheap no-name copy paper, Rhodia, Leiutchtturm1917, and Clairfontain papers.
They are also FAST drying on these papers - under 5 to 10 seconds.
Consider SketchINK. They have waterproof inks in different colours, and are safe for use in fountain pens.
What are some fast drying inks you reccomend for drawing?
Platinum Carbon and Sailor KiwaGuro are two that I know of that are waterproof and dry within reasonable time. Faster than Noodlers anyway.
Teoh Yi Chie Thank you,ill give them a try :)
I bought some of this stuff ages ago and found it AWFUL takes like a week to dry(on paper it was kind of usable but i wanted to use it on acrylic boards and it remained tacky to the touch and never really dried.) Platinum Carbon Ink was perfect for me.
My Noodler's Heart of Darkness is water proof and bleach proof. I tested it.
I havent used this ink but i have had the same issue with the platinum black carbon ink. Which is weird since ive seen most people say its waterproof? Anyone know whats up with that (also with the ink i left it to dry for around 14 hours and tested 2 types of paper)
Platinum Carbon has its peculiarities too. At one point in time, my ink wasn't totally waterproof. I thought there was an expiry date. But recently I tried it again and it's back to 100% waterproof. Not sure what happened. lol
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Sooo helpful! Thanks, Teoh!
Can you do similar comparative tests and different paper like in this video for other so-called waterproof fountain pen inks? Like Lexington Grey; document inks (e.g. from Rohrer & Klingner, De Atramentis, Blackstone Barrier line); De Atramentis Archive Black; iron gall inks (Platinum Classic line, Diamine registrar's blue black, R&K scabiosa and salix); Super5; R&K sketch inks; Scribe's inks; and pigment inks (Sailor Kiwa-guro, Sailor Storia line, Platinum Carbon Black)? Maybe even Pilot Blue Black which is said to be quite water resistant. It would be an invaluable resource! >_<
You don't need to get a full bottle of each. There are vendors that sell ink samples too.
I'll test out the inks that I currently have at the moment. www.parkablogs.com/tags/black-ink-reviews
I wonder if they have change the folmula of how to make the ink? It was better earlier.
I don't use the Noodles because, as you found out, even in your best result, it still wasn't really, really waterproof. I use DeAtramentis Document ink or sometimes Platinum Carbon. Both are 100% waterproof.
Yes, another vote for de
Atramentis document ink, esp dark blue and brown!
hi, I have just received my first bottle of de Atramentis ink, in terra de siena. And I'm extremely frustrated - it is NOT waterproof at all! I've tried the diluting method some people mentioned above (with the Noodlers ink) and it worked on the Noodlers bulletproof but NOT on the Atramentis ink. What am I doing wrong?! :(
Dorka is it de atramentis DOCUMENT ink?
@@dorka9268 Not all Atramentis inks are waterproof.
My Noodler's Heart of Darkness is water proof, and BLEACH proof. I tested it.
Im having the problem of it smudging on my sketchbook (Arteza watercolor book) It doesnt run when I use watercolor but after time on my sketchbook it started smudging 😒
I've been having issues with Noodlers as well even when using a heat gun on it after I ink. So disappointing! Still on the search for the perfect ink to do line work with.
Try Platinum Carbon or Sailor KiwaGuro
Roher and Klingor Lilly is what i use and its brilliant. I use it with my Safari fountain pen. It is excellent. I use everywhere and im a fussy person. Hope this help 😁
Hey Teoh... You should test out the "sketchINK" by Rohrer & Klinger especially "Lotte" ... I know it's a pigmented ink, but it is quite safe to use in fountain pens (I haven't any problems after 3 weeks without using it). The manifature created this ink for artists.
I heard it's a good cheaper alternative to Platinum Carbon Black. The ink bottle design is also kind of cute :)
@@richardlionfart6793 In my opion the sketchInk is a little bit darker than the carbon ink and it also drys more matte than his more known brother (what i personally prefere).
Ole Elfers Oh cool, I'll keep that in mind. Next time I need a refill I'll make the switch over then, thanks!
strange but my noodler's ink does not melt with water at all. I use it for line art
The waterproof ability of the noodler's ink will be affected by paper sizing, which is what also allows your paint to move on the paper. So I suspect this isn't an ink problem, but a paper sizing interaction.
I've tried other inks like Platinum Carbon and De Atramentis, and both worked flawlessly on the same paper. Sizing does matter to certain extent of course.
Right. And I've had problems with De Atramentis (but never Platinum Carbon). So your theory of possible expiry date is one possibility for why inks don't always behave properly with paper. Also, some inks are better created to interact with different types of paper than others. Without examining the formula of the ink and how long it's "good" to use, we can't really say. As you have stated in the video: no conclusion can be drawn :)
I find noodlers ink evaporates over time. You'll notice that the ink becomes shiny when it's dried that it's become too thick. I add a splash of water in the bottle every 6 months or so and it behaves much nicer. I've tried alot of waterproof inks in fountain pens and this is by far my favourite.
It does evaporate but it shouldn't be a problem if you keep your bottle closed properly.
@@teohyc yeah just saying I found the same problems as you in the video with my older noodlers ink, but that if I add a splash of water the ink is good as new. I use the noodlers ahab pen which put down a fairly heavy line and it's ready to add water colour within a minute or two.
When I need water colour proof paper what solutions do you have in mind?
What is watercolour proof paper?
I just bought Noodler's Bulletproof Blank ink 5ml sample, and it's not as dark as the one in the video. I'm quite surprised it's more light black, almost grey? I wonder if it's labelled incorrectly by the seller? I use it on Lamy Vista F nib if that makes any difference. Does anyone have the same experience?
It's not as dark compared to other brands of black ink
@@teohyc ah, that clears things up for me. Thank you for your response!
What type of fountain pen do you use????
Also what type of paint brush were you using? I've been trying to find a big paint brush like that and haven't been able to find one.
I'm using the Pelikan M200. The brush is a squirrel brush. You can get any brand of squirrel brush, they should be of similar quality.
Teoh, do a quick search on cotton. You will learn that it is almost 100% cellulose. The
Thanks :-)
Is this black ink markerproof?
Yes
It is not waterproof. Just it. Thanks for great review. I was going to buy it. I have change my mind.
I never had any luck with the Noodlers Bullet proof ink, the Lexington Gray is VERY waterproof in my experience. These days I use DeAtramentis Document Ink instead.
I think you need to let the ink dry for multiple days, then it will be waterproof.
I'm about to buy this, it's one of the top three recommendation by Brian Goulet for waterproof, fountain pen inks for important documents like wills and titles.
By the way, are there fake Noodler's Ink Black (eternal)? I hope there's none.
God bless, Revelation 21:4
"... looks like crap." Lol ❤
Just like my art ;-)
I think this ink is designed for writers, not artists. The latter should use dip pens and India ink or permanent pens like Micron or Sharpie.
Also someone writing a letter or journal would use an entirely different type of paper and just require that the words be legible after accidental spillage, rather than absolutely no run at all.
From all I've read about Noodler's Black, it needs at least 24 hours before becoming bonded to the cellulose in the paper. This doesn't happen immediately after the ink appears to be dry.
Your experiment is flawed since you are using WC paper instead of writing paper. This ink is specifically designed for cellulose writing/document paper which does not have any sizing specifically designed to allow your pigment to spread. That is why it stayed better on the two sketch pads vs WC paper, it is designed to sink into the page and sizing is included to help the pigment “float.”
I have found this out the hard way. False advertising from Noodlers. I’m switched to Platinum Carbon. No problems 😁
I love the platinum carbon ink in their desk pen 👍🏼
If you want waterproof black ink, try HIGGINS BLACK MAGIC. Works great with transparent/concentrated watercolors and dries fast!
lol total fail, it's crap ink