Fountain Pens vs Technical Pens (Quick Guide)
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- Check out this quick guide and comparison of fountain pens vs technical pens. I talk about the pros and cons.
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Having an engineering background, I do prefer technical pens. I am using the Staedtler Pigment Liners Technical Drawing Pens. They are very durable and last me a long time. No more ink mess, reliable and predictable results and a joy to use. Felt tips can last a long time, if you don't abuse them too much, even on rough or heavily textured paper. Lightly touching the paper is all you need. Mine are mainly used on textured watercolor paper and so far have no signs of heavy use.
fountain pens are fancy and are available from £1 to £2.2million and are very good for writing,
technical pens are better for outlining drawings and are normally £2 to £30
The reason technical pens should be held vertically when drawing is because for technical drawings you use stencils and rulers so the pen is always used perpendicular to the paper.
So for "art" they rent really suited because of the way you have to hold it. And fountain pens aren't suited at all for technical drawings, so there is that
And because you optimize flow when you hold them vertically.
I always hear people say this but I’ve never experienced this. I can hold my rotring isographs at much more of an angle than any fineliner pen that has a little wear. Sure, at first you can draw with a micron at extreme angles but once the tip begins to wear down, you basically have to hold it straight up. Technical pens are consistently able to be held at a slight, reasonably comfortable angle.
@@calebcampbell5951 for some reason my rotring doesent work unless I hold it perpendicular
Will Anthonio Zeppeli What size(s)?
@@calebcampbell5951 0.5
I am a newbie fountain pen collector and i have 11 fountain pens, i have only used a technical pen once, and it was a really long time ago when i was still a small kid, i was curious what was in my dad's pen/pencil case, and i saw a technical pen, i got a sheet of paper and drew a tree..
Don’t worry, they were the cheaper ones.
@Sherlock Holmes Yea Sherlock
This was a nice comparison video. I have heard others talk about technical pens; but, haven't really understood what exactly a technical pen was and how it was different from other stick pens. This was helpful.
I have three fountain pens, some ink cartridges and three bottles of ink. The ink cartridges are for the Platinum Preppy. But, I'm saving the cartridges so that I can refill them. I have the DeAtramentis Archive ink in my Metropolitan. It has a medium nib, so the line is a bit broader than the what the other two pens make. None of my pens have flexible nibs. I have tried all of them to see if the nibs would flex even a little. The Preppy won't flex at all. The Metropolitan will flex a little; but, the nib already leaves a wide enough line. The TWSBI Eco has the Noodlers American Eel ink in it. Where I live, the Noodlers ink takes a bit longer to dry; but, not too long. Since I carry the pens with me everywhere, and they are all loaded with black ink, I figure I can just switch pens if I want a narrower or wider line.
I don't have any technical pens. If I wanted one, I think I would have to order online.
Exactly what I was looking for: the differences between tech & fountain pens! Thanks for sharing your ideas & videos!
I use a whole range of different pens for the type of drawing I do (product design) I usually start out with a light copic marker, then use a very thin black gel pen like a Hi-tec-C, then progressively thicker line weights sometimes my Lamy fountain pen or Rotring technical pens. Then once I add in all my values with copic markers I use a Pentel pocket brush pen for profile lines.
That was very illustrative, thanks for sharing. I'm getting both kinds. But I love the look of fountain pens.
Thank you for all your videos. I’ve learned so much in such a short time!
Thank you for another informative video! Whenever I see your name on a video I know it will be the BEST advice!
Thank you! You explained this quite well - now I want a fountain pen! 😅
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I am rediscovering the fun. Fountain pens had always been close to my heart. Wonderful video. Thank you bro!
Good video. It mirrors my experience of 60 years of drawing. I currently use the Faber-Castel Pitt pens for my go to sketching and watercolor. I use the fine for everything. The medium is not as dependable. I also have multiple fountain pens, Mont Blanc to Lami. They are great but more of a commitment than I am willing to make as a casual artist. I am an architect and did used the Rotering pens for years. I spent way too many hours taking them apart to unclog them. Beautiful if you have the patience. However, I will never go back. Greetings from Sonoma County, California, USA.
+19MarkZ Thanks for sharing your experience 😁
Yasmine S I do have collection of fountain pens that I do use regularly. I do like to use waterproof ink when I sketch because I often use watercolors. Noodlers makes some wonderful waterproof inks for fountain pens. The disposable Pitt felt tip pens have very rapid drying waterproof ink and are very convenient. I usually have one in my front trouser pocket. I would not carry a fountain pen like that. I like both types of pens. I am looking at an old set of Koh-I-Noor Rapidograph pens that are on my desk in the cylindrical case. Not sure if I need to keep them. I will get out a fountain pen and use it this afternoon. Cheers.
19MarkZ ...I agree with you about Rotring pens. Mine blocked up once, never used it again. I use Mitsubishi Uni Pin fibre pens now. I also had more success with cheapo compasses compared to Rotrings too.
Ant Laud Use Noodler’s black in the technical pens and the problem goes away. If you still want to use them, of course.
19MarkZ Just bought a set of Koh-I-Noor Rapidographs. I’ve been using Noodler’s black in them and there’s no clogging unless left for a long time. Letting you know in case you like them along with fountain pens, I know I do.
You are so amazing!!! Thank you very much for these videos! You have helped so many times!!!
I'm also a pen collecter I love collecting the fountain pens mostly & I love your video & keep up loading your vedios
Thank you so much for making this. This was really helpful.
Just a clarification, technical pens are a type of fountain pen, isographs/stylographs/rapidographs are a type of fountain pen with constant line-weight that they achieve by the use of an internal and an external cylinder, but they still carry the ink inside and in the case of reusable metal tip pens, the functioning itself is exactly the same as with regular fountain pens, a combination of gravitational pull and capilary action.
A more propper tittle for the video would be nib pens vs isographs.
+Renatto Belerofonte I guess you are not wrong to say their nibs or tips are different. The ink flow system is the same. Not many people even know of the word Isograph though.
Great review thank you. I’ve used fountain pens for calligraphy and the copic sp for sketching. I would like to use fountain pens for sketching and your comments have helped me a lot. Thx.
Have fun drawing. Anything that can make a line can be used to draw. :-D
You are great, you are into detail, thank you because the last thing we are is experts in nibs though we know the fountain pen world. We have never heard of the Isograph technical pens will buy them and try them
Many thanks Teoh for all your interesting information on pens❤️
Great video I certainly love the fountain pens especially the sailor
Hi Teoh, thanks for this helpful video. I normally use technical pens to sketch as I'm not use to fountains one but I sure gonna try 😄 thanks!
Great comparison Teoh. Thank you! We ❤️ pens!
+geckonia Thanks 😁
Thank you for this enjoyable & informative piece of work
+John Owen Jones Thanks. Welcome 😀
this was so helpful! thank you!
Thanks Teoh. ^_^ That's a well rounded look at both types of pen.
+James Barton Thanks 😃
Nice video. Wish you had also drawn with the tech pens. I use tech pens almost exclusively for drawing and fountain pens for script. I have more of a problem with controlling the line variation with the fountain pen.
I started serious drawing when in college (I am a Biologist, not Artist) and find myself drawn to the vintage rapidograph pens with build in pistons. They look like your black fountain pens. Some are over 50 years old.
Hah, so am I.
Yeah, I love them all! But man, that Sailor Emperor nib is pricey as heck. I bet it's totally sweet to draw with though.
Thank you Teoh for this review.
Which of these pens or any other pen would be recommended to be used on coldpress or textured watercolour paper?
Great comparison! I have many fountain pens, disposable and refillable technical pens. I find refillable techincal pens pain to maintain. They seems to need ultrasonic cleaning very often and clog so easily. I too prefer fountain pens, I love how nib just glides on paper and ink is so lively. :)
Good video, clear explanation.
For fountain pen, Sailor Storia ink is in different color and it's waterproof
Thank you for interesting video. Are non-waterproof inks also not fugitive ie permanent colours? I think permanent ink is colour fast?
+Freda Neimann Lightfast quality will depend on what the ink is made of. For example, Sharpie markers are waterproof when dry, but their colours will fade.
Hi, do you have that Lamy Safari fountain pen model no.that you are still using till now as mentioned in the video? Thanks
The transparent one is a Lamy Safari Vista
I like Tech pens, but fountain pens is just so eye catching and feel premium
But I would choose a technical pen all the time.. fountains r gentleman's essential. Great for writing but no good for me while drawing.
I really like the line variation of fountain pens but not the maintenance. Thanks for another helpful video.
+Debbie Riley Thanks 😊
Good job. This is helpful
You should make a video about Pigma Micron pens
+zip zipper I should. Not sure when that video will come out though. 😄
You have a lot to get to. I understand that.
Cool video!
Do you use dip pens also? if so, it would be nice to see a video comparison between dip pens and fountain pens, thanks for this video
Thanks for the idea. Maybe I'll make that video
@@teohyc yeah!! Do it!! The difetence between nib vs fountain pen!!
Rotring Technical pens are freaking amazing by most standards though! :)
Wow thanks this helped me a lot
Que buena colección de lapiceras tiene . En este país cuestan tres o cuatro veces mas que en otros, por eso es difícil comprar de las mejores. Nosotros lo llamamos "costo argentino". Saludos !!
Teoh-which is your “go to” fountain pen for your sketches? Thanks!
+Bev Reed Nowadays mostly Pelikan M200. Sometimes the Duke 209 www.parkablogs.com/picture/review-pelikan-m200-fountain-pen
Teoh Yi Chie thanks, Teoh!
Are you familiar with the mars 700? It predates the mars Matic 700. I can't figure out how to fill it with ink. Please help me!
I’ve not tried the 700 before
I'm a landscape architect and I use rotring isograph and staedtler marsmatic 700 technical pens about half of the time. The other half is with fountain pens, 2 brass kaweco sport in EF and Fine, a kaweco original, muji aluminum, and 2 lamy safari in EF and Fine. For pencils I use rotring 800 in office and and Pentel Kerry/Alvin draftmatic on the go.
I like them the same. Fountain pens cannot give that super accurate always the same width line that an isograph can give. But the technical pens can't give the character that rough sketching looks so great with. Your style of drawing is perfect for a fountain pen as it's not super accurate, it's more free and messy. That's not a bad thing as it has character and it's just a different look. I actually prefer fountain pens for lettering though and I like a 1 mm pilot G2 gel pen even better
Can you talk more about black ink? I want to find black ink for fountain pen but I couldn't those black enough.
I have reviewed many black inks on my channel. You can check out this video first th-cam.com/video/bjIPXXkbaPA/w-d-xo.html
Teoh Yi Chie Thanks. My apologize for bothering you but I've just started to use fountain pen though I have used mechanical pen for some times so I don't have experience about those pens. I have used Pilot black ink but it has grey shade and not black. I wonder if every fountain ink is grey instead of black?
So you CAN put thin watercolor paints in technical pens, and or, fountain pens? Or do I have to instead for colors use something like Doc. Martians colored inks?
~SKETCHCAT
+Sketchcat Watercolor paints use pigments. Those are particular that will clog the pen when dry. If you look at how watercolour dries, especially in their concentrated form, such as dried tubes or pans, they become hard and that will clog the pen. In general, if something dries and leave dust particles, those should not be put in pens.
How about food colouring
Hello . .really informative video ... i want to buy a technical pen but I can't decide if I should buy the Rotring Isograph or Faber Castell ...and also which nib point should I buy first . . .Thanks in advance XD
+Scarlet Black If it's a technical pen like the one in the video, brand may not matter much. What matters is if you can use your own ink to refill, and how easy it is to dismantle and clean.
can you use the same waterproof drawing ink for fountain pens as for technical pens? I am used to think that waterproof drawing ink is not suitable for fountain pens, and that is what prevents me from using them. I was looking for the rotring art pen which has a fountain pen form, is it suitable for the same ink as for the technical pens, or is the tip more easy to clog?
I’ve not tried Rotring. You can try Platinum Carbon, Sailor KiwaGuro, DeAtramentis Archive, SketchINK
@@teohyc Thank you so much
I have a question: I have about 4 refillable technical pens that are clogged up. I lived abroad for 5 years and left them behind (apparently I forgot them charged, haha!). I already cleaned every single one of them but they don't work anymore. It is like their nibs are still clogged up. The same thing happened also to one of my old Lamy fountain pens. Do you have any tips I could use to get them to work again or do you think I should just buy new ones? Thanks for the videos and the effort you put in your channel. I really like it and I find you to be super talented! :)
+Luli Nasser Do those technical pens use a needle in the tip? If so, dismantle and remove them. Get the Rotring cleaning fluid, soak the affected parts overnight and clean them the next day. You will want to be able to see through the tip, like light at the end of a tunnel.
Got it! I'll try that. Thank SO VERY MUCH! ^_^
Cool video!
Very helpful thanks :)
Hi! What is your take on Art Ruling Pen? Is the result the same as using a dip pen?
I've not used that before so I can't say much.
@@teohyc Thank you
Hi Teoh😊🙋Great video,very informative.I was looking at fountain pens today and was so confused on what to get,as a beginner.😣I have always used technical pens and get so frustrated at how fast the tips wear out or ink is used up.I really need to try Fountain pens.Lately I use the rollerball ink pens,those are not bad but they do not deliver constant and smooth lines.🤦I want to try even the dip pens,eventually.
Thanks. I'm glad the video was helpful
Teoh Yi Chie So welcome and definitely was😊🙋🙏👍🏻Happy weekend.☕☕
I love writing with felt tip pens and technical pens, sometimes I use them but mostly I use normal ball bens, I prefer roller ball pens, for school cause it's more economical
The noise in the background, was that thunder?
I used both. I used technical pen for more accurate drawings and i use fountain pen for a more creative writings and drawings
Do you use fountain pen on the cold press watercolor paper?
Yes, frequently. Works well
My favorite drawing fountain pen is the Tachikawa School G. It can give very fine lines plus subtle line variation similar to a manga nib. Don't expect to get Copperplate levels of flex (I never flex nibs that much when drawing anyway. I use an ink-filled waterbrush, my favorite type of brush pen, to fill in any areas of black. It saves nibs from unnecessary wear). I refill the School G pen with Noodler's Eel Black, since I find it to be very black, very waterproof, and very cheap for a fountain pen ink. The pen is eyedropper convertible if the proprietary cartridge breaks. I still use dip pens at home. I find Speedball India Ink (in 32 fl oz bottles...I'm cheap) perfect for dip pens and brush pens. The ink is very black, very fadeproof, and very waterproof. It's not marker-proof, but I'm too cheap for Copic markers anyway, and the other brands just aren't as good. I keep some random fineliners by Sharpie that I literally picked up on the sidewalk for when I ever need... technical pen/fineliner stuff (technical pens are metal-tipped. Fineliners have plastic tips). I pry fineliners open and refill them with India Ink... Technical pens would be too much maintenance for me, since I rarely use technical-style pens.
I love the brown ink color of the firt fountain pen you show. Is it water resistant? If not, then I am very interested to know it's name/brand, because I like to mess with the non water resistant inks, and the color here is beautiful!
That's Noodlers Golden Brown
@@teohyc Thank you very much Teoh !
Is that Fenerbahçe Jersey ?
Many thanks!
I mean, this all looks so intriguing and I would love to use nibs for drawing. But then again I already got a real hard time finding a regular cartridge pen that suits my lefty Hand and I usually don't even use my calligraphy one for writing my native German or even English, only when I got the time to sit down and work on my Chinese vocabulary. I already am more on the slower side writing those, so it doesn't make that much of a difference if I habe to be a bit extra careful to make sure the nib doesn't scratch on the paper. I got the stupid feeling those nibs are not made for lefties like me at all, so I guess I'll have tostick with my Faber-Castell Pitt Artist Fineliners and Copic Multiliners for now 🙄
Which one of the fountain pens you presented today is you favorite?
The ones I'm using most nowadays are the Pelikan M200, Duke 209 with fude nib and Pilot Penmanship.
Teoh Yi Chie thats so cool. I have a few pens but not many. My father is a wood turner so he helped my make a wooden pet using a kit. I didn’t think you would actually respond. So many TH-camrs stop responding after like a week you responded after 3 YEARS.
Thank you for the video.
In Australia the Rotring Isograph Technical Pens cost $80 each!
+MaZEEZaM That's expensive. You may find more affordable deals online
I can bring some to Sydney for you for $40 each, will be there in 2 weeks :)
I bought two and cost me around 10$ each 😁
really helpful!
+Loli Thanks 😋
Awesome, I also love to use fountain pens to draw, it feels so much more natural and organic :-)
Is the technical pen as same as the regular gel pen? Gel pen is waterproof as well.
Not all gel pens are waterproof. Technical pens usually use liquid pigmented inks. Gel pens can create blobs accidentally, start and end of strokes may be thicker.
Teoh Yi Chie thanks
what was the name of the pilot pen
www.parkablogs.com/picture/review-pilot-custom-74-fountain-pen That’s a Pilot Custom 74
thank you
Although the fountain pen with very flexible gold nib (as close to calligraphy writing) is the king of writing instruments, I also love technical pens for the line precision.
Which technical pen brand and model aside from Staedler's non-ISO technical pens (can be used for drawing even if it's slanted) is great for drawing even if you angle the pen?
God bless, Rev. 21:4
I find the fountain pens to be more inspirational. I like how some come in metal so they feel more substantial. and the ink flows more freely. I've always used technical pens but fountain pens are winking at me now.
When he's writing so many ways, I remember I hold a pencil( pen, marker, brush)like chopsticks. It made me a chopsticks master.
I just have a few fountain pens filled with colored ink. Then I can change it out or refill.
So, "technical pen". What exactly are they? Are Sakura Pigma Microns technical pens, or is it just some language-barrier thing?
Technical pens are pens made to produce specific line weights.
So Microns are technical pens? goo.gl/Nf8BtH
Yes
Is it rec'd to press down hard on nibs?
+David Farmer It's not necessary to press down the nib hard. As long as it has contact, ink will flow. Sometimes you press hard to get thicker strokes
+David Farmer There are nibs made specially for pressing down harder. Those are called flex nib.
OK, thanks!
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i agreee
maybe!
Thanks Teoh 🖐 Fountain pens rule! _(felt-tip_ _pens_ _are_ _the_ _worst_ - _ugh!)_
Team fountain pens
fountain pens are a pleasure to write.
Are technical pens just fineliners with replaceable ink?
You can see it that way, yes
"fountain pens are very durable in general"
Try dropping one without the cap on and see what happens to the nib..
//uses fountain pens for everyday writing and sketching
+Alice Alice Even durable porcelain that can last for thousands of years can't survive a drop.
Teoh Yi Chie yep._.
//lowkey wishes it would last a drop
Yeah. Fountain pens are literally the most fragile type of pen you can buy lol. If you don't count glass dip pens
Keep the cap on it
Disposal clean to use
Stay safe stay at home
Where brush pens at!×0×
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Pens love like
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Im surprised he doesnt have pigma microns, its so common to see
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if anyone gets bored of their fountain pens, send it (or if you get tired of all of them, send them.) to me.
"Yeah just gonna send this pen that cost hundreds of dollars to a complete stranger"
Apparently people think that you get BORED of pens that cost a lot of money.
Justin Davila You find fountain pens everywhere over here. There are really cheap ones from bic or other brands like that. It's the most used pen in schools as well.
there are $3 fountain pens all over ebay.......don't exagerate!
Your stupid
I found a fountain pen in a Japanese store
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Oh gosh I fell asleep through the whole "technical pen" part! Its not your fault its way too late I need sleep xD
+MutoreoCookie You need to watch it again so I can get twice the views 😂
Teoh Yi Chie sure thing I will watch it again let's just hope I dont pass out again x3