2:30 Just a correction: N64's Resident Evil 2 cartridge had a storage capacity of 512 megabits, not megabytes, which makes it even more impressive by putting a 1 GB+ game into just 64 MB.
I was a sucker at the time, I bought RE2 on the GameCube thinking it got the REmake treatment like the first one instead I found out it was an exact port of the PS1 game. At least it got the better graphical update if play through Progessive Mode or on Wii but was disappointed that it wasn't the remake like the first one.
@@flowrepins6663 I'm lost at your comment. They just created a whole different resident evil 2 making it pretty damn revolutionary . Us true fans have been asking for this and they answered us.
Also has nightmare/expert mode which will make you pull your hair out. Takes like 15 handgun rounds to kill a zombie, but hey there's a chance for headshots like the magnum so that makes up for it right? Wrong
Gamecube port looks the best, its like the PS1 version but smoother and higher res. The other ports wash out the colors and are too bright, or too compressed. The Dreamcast was a badass console though, I had that and Code Veronica when I was 10 and lived in Alaska. Would come home from school in the 4th grade and play it all day.
I strongly disagree with that. The backgrounds in the Gamecube versions look way too dark and it's at a lower resolution like the PS1 version. PC and Dreamcast versions are where it's at.
@@noviolenceplease5978 I still have my old PC copy but they should have it on abandonwaregames.net but you may have to download a patch to run it in Windows 10 (assuming that's what you have) if it doesn't work but Win10's compatibility mode usually runs old games fine without any problems. The old RE2/3 PC ports ran fine on my potato laptop.
Two things: what you described as "dithering" is actually interlacing, look it up resident evil 2 also had two PC ports. One in '99 and another in '06 with various enhancements. These two ports are of interest today due to the PC's reputation for having an established modding community.
A couple suggestions for your next comparison videos: it's not really fair to use ePSXe for PlayStatation footage as it can't decompress backgrounds in the way they would appear on real hardware, official emulators, or even PCSX-r. ePSXe has barrel bottom decompression, macroblocks are a lot more in your face, and in general looks like crap especially when put against lossless sprites used to mask entity meshes. As for the N64 version, the artifact that you call dithering is actually video interlace (i.e. scanlines drawing in a pattern of even and odd lines switching every frame) and it's caused by how the N64 handles the 512x448 high resolution, which is still lower than 640x480 in Dreamcast, Gamecube, and PC ports. Dithering is what you would see on hardware that renders in 16 bits while trying to display smooth gradients by faking them through dot matrices.
So just a couplr things to say. First off thabk you a ton for all your suggestions, I alwaya look at them when people recommend some. To begin, unfortunately due to time, I wasn't able to acquire a PS1 copy, so i had to use an emulator for this. I am never a fan, but this was my first and only video i used PS1 emu footage. So apologies on my part there. And dithering is a 16 bit technique then....i see. Still learning some terms but bear with me on that. Just something i noticed on thr video, but i hope you enjoy the video and such. Definitely sounded like you did!
@EtikaArchiveNetwork Like i said, crunch time. When you working on getting the exact footage you need with a deadline, sometimes you miss things. It happens
Gemini Why are you not making videos? lol. That was the best written description I have ever read about that subject. It was simple and Understandable and got right to the point whilst staying accurate and informative and all that without coming off cocky. That was nice to read is my point.
The N64 version was what I owned as a kid.. And.. actually it's sitting about 4 feet from me right now with the rest of my surviving N64 stuff. Personally I think that version was the biggest technical feat, because they got it pretty damn close to the PS1 version with a mere fraction of the space, and was easily one of the best looking and sounding games on the system.
Sold mine too early in time when was in need of some solid cash, still regretted it until this day but slowly rebuilding my game And console empire, but like one knows, time wasn't build within one day.
My first ever RE game, i played it back in 2002 on the N64 when i lived in Cuba as a kid and considering Cuba's situation having a N64 in 2002 was a big thing lol. RE2 has always been one of my favorite games of all time.
The best loading times is GC and DC. When N64 cartridge use data compress it have load times. Exemple: RE2, Quake, Ocarina of Time, etc. Cartridge is more fast yes, but if you have to compress data then is only a bit fast than CD.
The N64 version is not 512MB, its 512Mb. That is megabit, not megabyte. It's actually smaller than the the 512MB you said it was, so the magic was even bigger than stated.
N64 version also had extra files in the game that linked it more with RE3, RE0, and Code Veronica. It also allowed you to turn off tank controls. And it didn't have ALL the FMV cutscenes. Some were edited so that the same scene could be used for both Leon and Claire. For example: the scene where the helicopter crashes on the roof. In all other versions, the cutscene starts with a shot of either Leon or Claire looking up into the sky. The N64 version cuts that first shot so that the same cutscene can be used for both scenarios.
You missed out the most important differences. Like the elements from the Windows version that made it over to the Dreamcast version making it probably the most complete version. Or the added diary entries in the N64 version that tie it in with Resident Evil 0.
Remember when you can see these games on the native resolution as they intended, they look spectacular. Only go pc crt for the DC/NGC ports, but tv with s-video or rgb, rgb/component conversion.
I would agree with this sentiment. Definitely these consoles have a native way of playing them, but there are also some pretty good versions to play as well that do make it easy to use on modern PCs
To update my comment above: 512megabits Mb is 64 megaBytes so 64MB. Most N64 games range anywhere from 4MB to 64MB, thats tiny compared to cds which store from 650MB to 700MB. so the compression that was done for re2 is impressive to say the least.
Yeah RE2 on PS1 was my first RE game in 1998, rented it from Movie Gallery because the cover looked cool. Got home played it, got to the basement and had to return it, so I saved enough money and 2 weeks after that I purchased a copy at KB Toys in the mall along with RE Directors Cut and I was immediately hooked. And to top it off in early 1999, capcom was advertising RE3 on TV, and I was like omfg yes! Bought it on its release in 99. Been an avid RE gamer since those days.
Just a few small things. The N64 version runs at a higher resolution for field and models when it isn’t busy, but can drop to PS1 resolution depending on the amount of polys. The backgrounds are the lowest resolution of all ports/versions just stretched out to meet the higher screen resolution. The n64 version also has certain voice lines reused between different characters.You also forgot the files that you find explaining RE1s story for n64. I’m still amazed that version happened.
What you refer to as 'dithering' is actually a graphical artifact called interlaced combing. Dithering is something else all together. Interlaced video allows for simulating higher resolutions, in this case 480i, while still only rendering 240 lines of pixels per frame. It achieves this by rendering every even-numbered line of pixels one frame, then every odd-numbered line of pixels the next frame. The downside of this, besides the typical jittery video associated with interlaced graphics, is that sometimes you'll notice this effect that resembles the teeth of a comb, like you point out in this video, where the even-numbered lines are noticeably ahead of the odd-numbered lines, or vice versa. This plays into why the Dreamcast is actually the best looking version of this game for most people playing on native hardware. The Dreamcast version runs at 480p (progressive scan, as opposed to interlaced) with a simple VGA cable. The Gamecube version runs at 480i natively, and requires either mods, external hardware, or a rare and expensive official Nintendo component cable to run in 480p mode. I know this is a 5 year old video, but I just find this kind of thing interesting and wanted to talk about it.
I appreciate your input man thank you, I will say though that this is the most commented typo of the video of it being interlacing rather than dithering, so I so get it now which I'm glad for. Appreciate your input regardless
I think a lot of people discount the quality of n64 re2. The game’s sacrifices were decided upon the idea that the game would be played on a CRT, meaning many of the differences you wouldn’t have even noticed at the time it was released. It truly is an impressive port, and it’s very difficult to see some of the differences on a crt.
Agree completely, it's such a high quality port that shouldn't function in the 64 but is a miracle because it did. It's probably the most ambitious one I ever covered
That stripes in movement actually are not dithering, but interlacing artefacts. Other systems had them, too (except Dreamcast when played in VGA mode, don't know if the Cube version supports progressive scan via component), but maybe your capture equipment had a harder time deinterlacing the N64's signal.
Several point that people NEVER discuss about the DC version (for some unknown reason...) that make it the best are the addition of a concept art gallery, a 3D model viewer, and the fact that all the cutscenes are remastered to run at a higher framerate AND lose the black frames above and below the image on all the other versions that give them the appearance of a widescreen image when in reality, you're seeing less of the whole picture on the top and bottom of the screen. The DC version's cutscenes are displayed as full-screen, showing more of the whole picture. You can see it briefly in this video, but it's a point no one ever touches on in these comparisons.
My favorite version of the game was the one where I paid some homeless guys to act like zombies and then I shot them in the head and stabbed them with a knife. 2003 was a different time.
I grew up with the original PlayStation and still got all my games of that time in mint condition :) I would never forget when I first played Resident Evil 1 for the first time and encountering that first zombie at the age of 6 that was very terrifying.
3:49 - you talk about dithering, and show interlacing artefacts. These can appear when you have not de-interlaced footage for use on progressive monitors, or if you get the field order wrong when either displaying interlaced footage, or attempting to convert it to progressive footage.
3:54 this isn't dithering, but interlacing. The N64 can only output a progressive image in 240p, and is stuck with interlaced video when rendering higher vertical resolutions, which scale up to 480i.
I agree the DREAMCAST version is the best version for the reason you point out - having the info on the VMU is a game changer. And it looks and sounds amazing. GameCube is a close 2nd. Nice video!
I really wanted this game a few years back when I bought my Dreamcast but got Code Veronica instead. It's amazing the Dreamcast is still relevant while all these other Consoles have been long dead. Dreamcast will be getting New physical releases after Sony announces the discontinuation of the PS4.
Tbh the n64 RE2 Version has NO RIGHT To be this Good or to even Exist! Afaik the Dreamcast Version is Unique since it is no direct PS1 Port but rather a PC Port of RE2 via Windows CE Tech used in the Dreamcast to make PC Ports Easy!
The N64 versions enhanced backgrounds are in 480i, which can cause combing artifacts as you showed. The Dreamcast version, when paired with the proper cables, will output the entire game at 480p, looking much better than the N64, even with the Expansion Pak.
I've always much preferred the GameCube versions of both RE2 and RE3. I've also been looking forward to getting my hands on the Sourcenext version of both games. From what I've seen, RE2's Sourcenext version has been worked on by a certain modder for a long while and have applied many useful patches for it. They haven't gotten the chance to do similar fixes to RE3's Sourcenext version since they don't have a legitimate copy of the game. Really wish someone could apply similar patches to RE3's Sourcenext since RE3 is my favorite out of the original trilogy.
Mainly played the PS1 version back in the day but after watching this video the GC version looks the best to me. It’s crisper, sharper and the color scheme down to the red reflection from the Gun sign looks great. It looks darker but fits the atmosphere of the game. So yea to ME that’s the best one.
@BoneYard hmm I have three and all have very durable plastic...I wonder if it is like you said a batch issue. I know for example most US fat Snes have very brittle plastic nowadays and so there are a ton with cracks and chunks missing but the Japanese and European systems while also yellow feel like they have far more durable plastic.
@BoneYard can't confirm the britle plastic as well, have four of them and all still sturdy. As for the contacts, it's more efficient to coat the contacts with solder.
I played Code Veronica countless times. I guess that release overshadowed the remastered RE2 on the DC. I can't believe I missed out on that experience. The VMU was pretty damn cool as an external memory device (arguably the best one ever made), and SEGA really utilized it well.
Great video, I'd contest that the N64 is more than capable of handling CD quality audio. All of the limitations in audio quality and texture quality are due to the storage capacity of the 64MB(maximum) cartridges which you've hinted on. The very high levels of compression to squeeze a game into
A important correction 3:54 this is NOT dithering this is interlacing artifacts because as you showed you are using the higher resolution mode which is 480i. Dithering are small points of noise applied to the image to give an impression of more colors in cost of less image clarity, PS1 relied heavily on this trick not N64. You also wrongly said that only half of Leon is rendered that is also not true. That happens because on interlaced image such as 480i only half of a frame is send to the screen but the frame rendered does not change
I have played them all and the best version you can get is the modded PC BioHazard 2 SourceNext version for sure. Second is the excellent Dreamcast version and on a similar state is the great GameCube version. Basically those three versions are the best. The PS1 version is still okay thou! The only bad way to ever play RE2 is by not playing it xD
Nice job with everything man. And funny you ended with the dude getting eaten because I remember playing the PS1 demo WAY back when, and it ends once Leon sees the first licker in the police station.
Personally the N64 is one of the best ports IMO. Nintendo was so good about making up for shortcomings. The N64 version of RE2 also had a lot of new files and costumes. Have you ever seen Duke Nukem 64? The original game had a LOOOOOOT of nudity and things that otherwise had to be censored on N64. That being said, instead of just removing everything, they were creative and made it these references into other funny references or new locations. Like one level is literally called "Red Light District" with a pornography store, strip club and bar. In the N64, its a gun store, restaurant, and kitchen.
The Dreamcast one is my favorite and the superior version, though the N64 had extra files. I remember hoping the GameCube version would be the Dreamcast version with the N64 extra files and blood changes.
Additional to the N64 version, there are several cutscenes which have been doctored, to remove the "specific character" that is being played, meaning that you just recycle the same cutscene. For example, the helicopter crash onto of the RPD. This usually has a brief clip of Leon or Claire's reaction to it. That is simply cut, and the same sort of thing is true of ANY "character specific" scene, clearly as just another trick to save on space.
For the N64 port there is one aspect of the game you did not mention. The control options. The controls can be configured to work relative to your screen position (i. e. You go closer to the screen by pressing down, go left pressing left, etc.
@Wade Wilson Carrier was awesome. A bit generic, maybe. But it had a better combat system than any of the RE games it was ripping off. Illbleed is a mixture of frustrating and pure awesome. Took me a bit to learn it's esoteric mechanics, and the combat is pretty putrid, but there's nothing quite like it, and probably never will be again. D2... my first ever taste of full frontal polygon nudity. Game is so weird. I've yet to finish it.
Picked up RE2 and RE3 for GameCube at GameStop when they were clearancing them out. At the time I had no idea they’d skyrocket in value. I think I paid less than $20 for both? Great games no matter what you decide to play them on!
you forgot the most crucial detail that makes the gamecube version the definitive version: you can skip cutscenes. no, not FMVS, cutscenes. you no longer have to suffers marvin's sob story or kendo's speech every time you play.
Umm. You're completely Wrong about the Dreamcast Version. It has higher resolution than the N64 version easily. DC runs at 480p with full backround resolution. How the tf are you going to say the N64 ver. has a higher resolution and then clearly when it switches back to N64 from DC have it show in the video that the N64 ver is wayy uglier?
@@MorrisseyMuse the resolution that the game is being output at, and the resolution of the 2D assets are completely different things. Yes the game on N64 might support 480i resolution with the Xpansion PAK, but the 2D assets like the backgrounds, do not change in resolution. They are 320x240 regardless of weather the N64 is outputting 240p or 480i. The N64 just upscales them.
@Darren Clyde you're completely wrong. 2D assets are 320x240. Output resolution changes depending on weather you have the xpansion Pak installed or not. Please do research on this before you reply to tell me i am wrong. You will find i am correct. If you reply to simply tell me i am wrong again, i will not respond.
@@MorrisseyMuse RE2 on N64 only switches in res between 240p and 480i if you're using the expansion pak, and the res switch is on specific screens throughout. It's not true dynamic resolution based on what's happening onscreen like in modern titles. All that being said, the DC version is still higher res at 480p.
1st person mode it such a game changer. In some parts it makes the game way easier, allowing you to get past zombies way faster than tank controls could. On the other hand, it's quite disorienting with the fixed camera angles. If, for example, you're trying to get past a Licker and the camera keeps screwing your controls, you could have an unintentionally tense time. I say it's worth experiencing those controls at least once if you're an RE2 fan.
@@ChiruKobra Agreed, though if memory serves, in the PC port, the first person controls "lock" the direction you're moving into the new screen so long as you're holding that key down during the transition, then reorient themselves when you let go. For example, if the screen you're on is oriented so Up goes East, then the next screen has Up going South, the game locks the controls so Up is still East in the new screen until you release it and it changes to South. I could be remembering that incorrectly, though, so don't quote me on it.
I was gonna say the same. I played it a little on PS1, but I played through the whole thing, both campaigns on N64 and LOVED the 1st person controls. I'm surprised they weren't used in future ports and entries in the series.
@@crystianbarriga3801 The Segafanboys are for me the worst people on the community of videogames, I hate this people, they always want to have the reason and the truth for all. This people really, really made me sick!
I do not know what kind of console you used, but to me the gamecube loads much faster than nintendo 64, and graphically speaking resident evil 2 has much better graphics in gamecube than in 64
One of my all time favourite games. I played it for the first time in around 2000 or 2001. Yet I've only just started playing the first Resident Evil for the first time last night.
Of course Dreamcast is the winner. The cutscenes are fullscreen people. PSX wasn't able to do that. Gamecube went with PSX port which doesn't have the full screen cutscenes. Those Dreamcast fullscreen cutscenes has also clearer video. That together with the game makes the best version. DC FTW
It has better graphics than the Cube version as well. The GC port was very lazy. Lots of clipping in character models and such. It also retailed at $40 on the Cube whereas it retailed for $20 on DC at launch. I bought both when they released, and they charged me double for less on the Gamecube.
@@AgentMorgan2010 Clippings? I have it on the Gamecube and it doesn't do that. Besides, the Dreamcast version is missing music tracks and the red taint is kinda annoying.
The one thing that wasn’t mentioned was the lack of extreme battle mode on the N64 version as well as one cutscene being reused. Also the music had a much higher sample rate than all the other versions and had Dolby surround. The extra files that tie in with resident evil zero and 3and the costumes were also something unique. being able to change to first person control scheme.
@@Dargonhuman yeah that's true. I have played PS1 n64 and the game cubes before I tried the PC version but the lack of controller I didn't like it much. Lol but love Re2 no matter what!
@@Megatron_Hunt_Life If you have a USB controller of some type like a wired X-Box 360 or USB adapter for a console controller, you can get a program called Joy2Key to map the keyboard commands to the controller inputs and use that. It's not perfect, and J2K can be a bit fiddly with some older games, but for the most part it gets the job done to convert keyboard only games to a controller.
@@Megatron_Hunt_Life It's all good; I was the same way a few years ago. I couldn't even conceive of such a thing being possible until an online Flash game explained how it worked and put up download links for Joy2Key. The game itself is long gone, but the J2K program is still online for download.
Very kind of you to say so man and very glad you loved the video! I need to check out the MVG's video on it but dude does fantastic work. Thanks for watching
this is one of those games that epitomizes my love of video games. i really liked the n64 version because of the cheats. i suck at resident evil games, but love them anyway. so that invincibility cheat helped suck ass me through the experience of the story at least. plus the n64 version just has a mystique. the n64 game that shouldn't exist. the impossible n64 game. two playstation disks on an n64 cartridge? it can't be done! but here it is.
Those cheats are actually on every version but the original vanilla one on PS1! Totally agree, having those cheats on makes for a fun playthrough to speed through.
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2:30 Just a correction: N64's Resident Evil 2 cartridge had a storage capacity of 512 megabits, not megabytes, which makes it even more impressive by putting a 1 GB+ game into just 64 MB.
This.
1000x times this ^
Little typo on my part. Happens from time to time
This so much
How the fuck...?
Just...HOW? I want a full documentary about the behind the scenes on that port.
The fact that this game is even on the n64 is amazing.
Yeah. Devs nowadays are hacks and everything is 100+ GBs.
That was my first RE! Never liked the tank controls, but N64 had fairly generous control options.
Yeah they even tried to make RE0 but gave up with it I guess they wanted a better game but couldn’t just fit it all on
I was so happy when it came out on N64 I only got to the Sewer part where you see hunk kill the scientist and after that it was too hard for me
N64 version better then ps1 version
Imagine that GameCube got a true remake like RE1 instead of the port. That would have been awesome.
Yo I would be down for that. But tbh I am such a sucker for the REmake. It's so well done
I was a sucker at the time, I bought RE2 on the GameCube thinking it got the REmake treatment like the first one instead I found out it was an exact port of the PS1 game. At least it got the better graphical update if play through Progessive Mode or on Wii but was disappointed that it wasn't the remake like the first one.
Well yall niggas dont need that shit now with re2 2019 game is awesome
Remakes suck. They should create instead. Re2 for 1998 was revolutionary, re2 remake now is just a game. Good but nothing compared to what re2 was
@@flowrepins6663 I'm lost at your comment. They just created a whole different resident evil 2 making it pretty damn revolutionary . Us true fans have been asking for this and they answered us.
The Dreamcast one looks and sounds the nicest.
@James Stark Missing music tracks, tho.
Dreamcast looks best (except PC), GameCube sounds best (except PC).
Also has nightmare/expert mode which will make you pull your hair out. Takes like 15 handgun rounds to kill a zombie, but hey there's a chance for headshots like the magnum so that makes up for it right? Wrong
@@michaelxdrift Lmfao I don't even bother with those modes. Takes way to much time to actually finish. But when I was younger I use to.
its an endgame version for all resident evil 2 fans.
Interlacing not dithering.
Yea someone already corrected me on that. Appreciate it dude, I'll learn it from here on out.
I love the Dreamcast, still my favorite console ever
As is mine! It's my preferred version solely due to that VMU technique
Hugo sad??? I take it you never brought any other systems then ?
@@starman5901 Yo don't bag on the dudeee version. If thats the one the chooses, it ain't a bad one. All of em got their specific reasons to get it.
It was an epic console! N64 is my all time fave console I have to say, but DC is up there! :)
Hugo Agreed, you should check out the Dreampi its amazing! X)
Gamecube port looks the best, its like the PS1 version but smoother and higher res. The other ports wash out the colors and are too bright, or too compressed. The Dreamcast was a badass console though, I had that and Code Veronica when I was 10 and lived in Alaska. Would come home from school in the 4th grade and play it all day.
Grayve Rose the fmv on the Dreamcast version is also uncropped
I agree
I strongly disagree with that. The backgrounds in the Gamecube versions look way too dark and it's at a lower resolution like the PS1 version. PC and Dreamcast versions are where it's at.
@@user-dv2hc8zt3o How do I play the PC version? I can't seem to find it
@@noviolenceplease5978 I still have my old PC copy but they should have it on abandonwaregames.net but you may have to download a patch to run it in Windows 10 (assuming that's what you have) if it doesn't work but Win10's compatibility mode usually runs old games fine without any problems. The old RE2/3 PC ports ran fine on my potato laptop.
I wanted to see a Resident Evil 2 and 3 remake with engine of Code Veronica on Dreamcast.
@8:50
Leon: HOLD YOUR FIRE! I'M A HUMAN!
Guy: Oh! Sorry about that, babe!
Me: HUWAAAAT!?!? Oh.. lol
Tbh Leon hot mommy
Switched to the Claire footage in the edit.
@@BigJwlz No it's the right footage. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I knew someone gonna said that, lol, I was like "Wait what...? @8:50" Till I know the edits, lol.
Honestly, Leon is a babe
I still play the n64 version of resident evil 2 to this day! Thank god I still have my copy with me.
Dreamcast you deserved so much more what an incredible system that was
Two things:
what you described as "dithering" is actually interlacing, look it up
resident evil 2 also had two PC ports. One in '99 and another in '06 with various enhancements. These two ports are of interest today due to the PC's reputation for having an established modding community.
This!
A couple suggestions for your next comparison videos: it's not really fair to use ePSXe for PlayStatation footage as it can't decompress backgrounds in the way they would appear on real hardware, official emulators, or even PCSX-r. ePSXe has barrel bottom decompression, macroblocks are a lot more in your face, and in general looks like crap especially when put against lossless sprites used to mask entity meshes. As for the N64 version, the artifact that you call dithering is actually video interlace (i.e. scanlines drawing in a pattern of even and odd lines switching every frame) and it's caused by how the N64 handles the 512x448 high resolution, which is still lower than 640x480 in Dreamcast, Gamecube, and PC ports. Dithering is what you would see on hardware that renders in 16 bits while trying to display smooth gradients by faking them through dot matrices.
So just a couplr things to say. First off thabk you a ton for all your suggestions, I alwaya look at them when people recommend some. To begin, unfortunately due to time, I wasn't able to acquire a PS1 copy, so i had to use an emulator for this. I am never a fan, but this was my first and only video i used PS1 emu footage. So apologies on my part there.
And dithering is a 16 bit technique then....i see. Still learning some terms but bear with me on that. Just something i noticed on thr video, but i hope you enjoy the video and such. Definitely sounded like you did!
@EtikaArchiveNetwork Like i said, crunch time. When you working on getting the exact footage you need with a deadline, sometimes you miss things. It happens
Regardless, the ps1 version was the weakest one. The n64 version was better
Gemini Why are you not making videos? lol. That was the best written description I have ever read about that subject. It was simple and Understandable and got right to the point whilst staying accurate and informative and all that without coming off cocky. That was nice to read is my point.
@@IITECHxNiNEII I helped with the Digital Foundry retrospective on RE2, so I kinda did in some way. 😀
The N64 version was what I owned as a kid.. And.. actually it's sitting about 4 feet from me right now with the rest of my surviving N64 stuff.
Personally I think that version was the biggest technical feat, because they got it pretty damn close to the PS1 version with a mere fraction of the space, and was easily one of the best looking and sounding games on the system.
Sold mine too early in time when was in need of some solid cash, still regretted it until this day but slowly rebuilding my game And console empire, but like one knows, time wasn't build within one day.
Great to see that Dreamcast comes on top, such an amazing console, it deserved so much better.
I wouldn't say on top but definitely a more desirable port for sure! One of my personal favs for that matter.
My first ever RE game, i played it back in 2002 on the N64 when i lived in Cuba as a kid and considering Cuba's situation having a N64 in 2002 was a big thing lol. RE2 has always been one of my favorite games of all time.
I own every version of the game and the N64 one is the one I still play, simply for its best loading times and the little extra modes it gives.
The best loading times is GC and DC. When N64 cartridge use data compress it have load times. Exemple: RE2, Quake, Ocarina of Time, etc.
Cartridge is more fast yes, but if you have to compress data then is only a bit fast than CD.
The N64 version is not 512MB, its 512Mb. That is megabit, not megabyte. It's actually smaller than the the 512MB you said it was, so the magic was even bigger than stated.
Do you think they'll pull it out with he remake on switch?
I could be wrong but I think REmake was confirmed for switch. RE4 is as well and RE2 has no plans to be on Switch
To add to that, 512 MegaBits is 64 MegaBytes.
N64 version also had extra files in the game that linked it more with RE3, RE0, and Code Veronica. It also allowed you to turn off tank controls.
And it didn't have ALL the FMV cutscenes. Some were edited so that the same scene could be used for both Leon and Claire. For example: the scene where the helicopter crashes on the roof. In all other versions, the cutscene starts with a shot of either Leon or Claire looking up into the sky. The N64 version cuts that first shot so that the same cutscene can be used for both scenarios.
You missed out the most important differences. Like the elements from the Windows version that made it over to the Dreamcast version making it probably the most complete version. Or the added diary entries in the N64 version that tie it in with Resident Evil 0.
I like the GameCube version.
Remember when you can see these games on the native resolution as they intended, they look spectacular. Only go pc crt for the DC/NGC ports, but tv with s-video or rgb, rgb/component conversion.
I would agree with this sentiment. Definitely these consoles have a native way of playing them, but there are also some pretty good versions to play as well that do make it easy to use on modern PCs
My favorite version is the Gamecube version. Pair it with the EON HDMI adaptor and it looks awesome.
N64 port pushed the system's limits with its 512mb cart.
Including FMVs.
Story will repeat it self this time around with the remake when it comes to switch.
Not sure it will come to Switch.
It may suffer downgrade like KH3.
But that could be a good idea if it’s possible.
The cartridges store at most 64MB not 512 MB. The N64 has at most 8MB of ram if you get the ram expansion otherwise its 4MB by default.
To update my comment above:
512megabits Mb is 64 megaBytes so 64MB. Most N64 games range anywhere from 4MB to 64MB, thats tiny compared to cds which store from 650MB to 700MB.
so the compression that was done for re2 is impressive to say the least.
Long Live Dreamcast and GameCube!! X)
Yeah RIP
Yeah RE2 on PS1 was my first RE game in 1998, rented it from Movie Gallery because the cover looked cool. Got home played it, got to the basement and had to return it, so I saved enough money and 2 weeks after that I purchased a copy at KB Toys in the mall along with RE Directors Cut and I was immediately hooked. And to top it off in early 1999, capcom was advertising RE3 on TV, and I was like omfg yes! Bought it on its release in 99. Been an avid RE gamer since those days.
Just a few small things. The N64 version runs at a higher resolution for field and models when it isn’t busy, but can drop to PS1 resolution depending on the amount of polys. The backgrounds are the lowest resolution of all ports/versions just stretched out to meet the higher screen resolution. The n64 version also has certain voice lines reused between different characters.You also forgot the files that you find explaining RE1s story for n64. I’m still amazed that version happened.
What you refer to as 'dithering' is actually a graphical artifact called interlaced combing. Dithering is something else all together. Interlaced video allows for simulating higher resolutions, in this case 480i, while still only rendering 240 lines of pixels per frame. It achieves this by rendering every even-numbered line of pixels one frame, then every odd-numbered line of pixels the next frame.
The downside of this, besides the typical jittery video associated with interlaced graphics, is that sometimes you'll notice this effect that resembles the teeth of a comb, like you point out in this video, where the even-numbered lines are noticeably ahead of the odd-numbered lines, or vice versa.
This plays into why the Dreamcast is actually the best looking version of this game for most people playing on native hardware. The Dreamcast version runs at 480p (progressive scan, as opposed to interlaced) with a simple VGA cable. The Gamecube version runs at 480i natively, and requires either mods, external hardware, or a rare and expensive official Nintendo component cable to run in 480p mode.
I know this is a 5 year old video, but I just find this kind of thing interesting and wanted to talk about it.
I appreciate your input man thank you, I will say though that this is the most commented typo of the video of it being interlacing rather than dithering, so I so get it now which I'm glad for.
Appreciate your input regardless
I think a lot of people discount the quality of n64 re2. The game’s sacrifices were decided upon the idea that the game would be played on a CRT, meaning many of the differences you wouldn’t have even noticed at the time it was released. It truly is an impressive port, and it’s very difficult to see some of the differences on a crt.
Agree completely, it's such a high quality port that shouldn't function in the 64 but is a miracle because it did. It's probably the most ambitious one I ever covered
Thank you for your continued dedication!
That's very kind of you. Thank you so much for watching the content!
That stripes in movement actually are not dithering, but interlacing artefacts. Other systems had them, too (except Dreamcast when played in VGA mode, don't know if the Cube version supports progressive scan via component), but maybe your capture equipment had a harder time deinterlacing the N64's signal.
Several point that people NEVER discuss about the DC version (for some unknown reason...) that make it the best are the addition of a concept art gallery, a 3D model viewer, and the fact that all the cutscenes are remastered to run at a higher framerate AND lose the black frames above and below the image on all the other versions that give them the appearance of a widescreen image when in reality, you're seeing less of the whole picture on the top and bottom of the screen. The DC version's cutscenes are displayed as full-screen, showing more of the whole picture. You can see it briefly in this video, but it's a point no one ever touches on in these comparisons.
My favorite version of the game was the one where I paid some homeless guys to act like zombies and then I shot them in the head and stabbed them with a knife. 2003 was a different time.
@Marcin Jechorek r/wooosh
Great job Rico, nice to see a port comparison direct and to the point and not dragging it out for the sake of it.
Thank you man. Just wanted it to be quick, simple and straight to the point telling you what you need to see and play
The background look really good on GameCube
They very nice and pretty crispy on the cube. Had a pleasant time lookin at it
PS1 and n64
@@dariellopez6955 What about them???
I grew up with the original PlayStation and still got all my games of that time in mint condition :) I would never forget when I first played Resident Evil 1 for the first time and encountering that first zombie at the age of 6 that was very terrifying.
GameCube is hands down the best port. The prerendered backgrounds were cleaned up too
and you can skip the cutscenes by pressing start
Im feelin this. I need get as an upgrade to my ps1 version.
Backgrounds are high res on Dreamcast too, just not as dark as GC's
3:49 - you talk about dithering, and show interlacing artefacts. These can appear when you have not de-interlaced footage for use on progressive monitors, or if you get the field order wrong when either displaying interlaced footage, or attempting to convert it to progressive footage.
Exactly, that's combing, which is not a dithering artefact.
*3:31** goodness look at that change. Good thing I got the PS1.*
Me too getting it in a few days
3:54 this isn't dithering, but interlacing. The N64 can only output a progressive image in 240p, and is stuck with interlaced video when rendering higher vertical resolutions, which scale up to 480i.
Trust, I Def had this explanation for 4 years so now I Def know the difference
I agree the DREAMCAST version is the best version for the reason you point out - having the info on the VMU is a game changer. And it looks and sounds amazing. GameCube is a close 2nd. Nice video!
Appreciate the love man! Frankly that's why the DC version is my favorite solely due to that reason. That changed my entire perspective of the series.
Dreamcast version has a red cast and VMU gimmick is only usefull if you play with light on (who plays Resident Evil with lights on anyway?)
@8:53
Leon cut scene with the "sorry bout that babe" xD hahahaha
I mean he is one thoughhh
I really wanted this game a few years back when I bought my Dreamcast but got Code Veronica instead. It's amazing the Dreamcast is still relevant while all these other Consoles have been long dead. Dreamcast will be getting New physical releases after Sony announces the discontinuation of the PS4.
Tbh the n64 RE2 Version has NO RIGHT To be this Good or to even Exist!
Afaik the Dreamcast Version is Unique since it is no direct PS1 Port but rather a PC Port of RE2 via Windows CE Tech used in the Dreamcast to make PC Ports Easy!
God I loved GameCube and Dreamcast. Dreamcast controller should have made a bigger wave
The N64 versions enhanced backgrounds are in 480i, which can cause combing artifacts as you showed. The Dreamcast version, when paired with the proper cables, will output the entire game at 480p, looking much better than the N64, even with the Expansion Pak.
I've always much preferred the GameCube versions of both RE2 and RE3. I've also been looking forward to getting my hands on the Sourcenext version of both games. From what I've seen, RE2's Sourcenext version has been worked on by a certain modder for a long while and have applied many useful patches for it. They haven't gotten the chance to do similar fixes to RE3's Sourcenext version since they don't have a legitimate copy of the game. Really wish someone could apply similar patches to RE3's Sourcenext since RE3 is my favorite out of the original trilogy.
Gemini is who you're thinking of. He's basically done with 2, almost done with fixing the Mediakite Release of 1, and has begun digging into 3's code.
Mainly played the PS1 version back in the day but after watching this video the GC version looks the best to me. It’s crisper, sharper and the color scheme down to the red reflection from the Gun sign looks great. It looks darker but fits the atmosphere of the game. So yea to ME that’s the best one.
My favorite of all the versions is the N64. I actually bought it over the PS1 version when it came out.
Perfect review , however playing on my Gamecube I don’t think RE2 is that dark , but still the best port for me , accompanied by pc version.
Dreamcast was ahead of its time but few could understand this
Until.....it was too late ;-;
@@Kelphelp yeap (one year later 🤣🤣)
@BoneYard hmm I think DC had a very good built. Not as good as the PS's but very good overall
@BoneYard hmm I have three and all have very durable plastic...I wonder if it is like you said a batch issue. I know for example most US fat Snes have very brittle plastic nowadays and so there are a ton with cracks and chunks missing but the Japanese and European systems while also yellow feel like they have far more durable plastic.
@BoneYard can't confirm the britle plastic as well, have four of them and all still sturdy. As for the contacts, it's more efficient to coat the contacts with solder.
FINALLY I am so glad somebody has highlighted how great it is to have the VMU features on the Dreamcast version.
A feature we take for granted, but it's one goddamn game changer
Dam that dreamcast looks great. The zombie moaning in this game never get old
I played Code Veronica countless times. I guess that release overshadowed the remastered RE2 on the DC. I can't believe I missed out on that experience. The VMU was pretty damn cool as an external memory device (arguably the best one ever made), and SEGA really utilized it well.
Great video, I'd contest that the N64 is more than capable of handling CD quality audio.
All of the limitations in audio quality and texture quality are due to the storage capacity of the 64MB(maximum) cartridges which you've hinted on. The very high levels of compression to squeeze a game into
Got really lucky and found the GameCube version of the game for below the prices you regularly see on eBay at a used video store.
Me too, so I bought 3 and Verónica
I love port comparisons! Dreamcast is definitely the best for RE2 in my opinion. I subbed, keep it up :)
Real glad you enjoyed it man! Just finished a video last week, and working on a new one as we speak!
7:53 The most fucking sick start game sound in the history of Video games
8:06 Seriously CAPCOM?
A important correction 3:54 this is NOT dithering this is interlacing artifacts because as you showed you are using the higher resolution mode which is 480i. Dithering are small points of noise applied to the image to give an impression of more colors in cost of less image clarity, PS1 relied heavily on this trick not N64. You also wrongly said that only half of Leon is rendered that is also not true. That happens because on interlaced image such as 480i only half of a frame is send to the screen but the frame rendered does not change
I have played them all and the best version you can get is the modded PC BioHazard 2 SourceNext version for sure. Second is the excellent Dreamcast version and on a similar state is the great GameCube version. Basically those three versions are the best. The PS1 version is still okay thou! The only bad way to ever play RE2 is by not playing it xD
N64 version destroys all console versions for its loading times alone! :)
Bought the ps1 version last year never got around to playing it should i just buy the new one or stick to ps1 version?
@@benderman1157 play both
Well more so this is the best physical version to get, SourceNext is beyond my knowledge and expertise of this video.
Gamecube port is better than dreamcast
OG Resident Evil 2 will always be the real Resident Evil 2. It will never be forgotten.
Cause of nostalgia
@@FlyingRaijin52 No, the original is not a trainwreck of a story,
Nice job with everything man.
And funny you ended with the dude getting eaten because I remember playing the PS1 demo WAY back when, and it ends once Leon sees the first licker in the police station.
Personally the N64 is one of the best ports IMO. Nintendo was so good about making up for shortcomings. The N64 version of RE2 also had a lot of new files and costumes. Have you ever seen Duke Nukem 64? The original game had a LOOOOOOT of nudity and things that otherwise had to be censored on N64. That being said, instead of just removing everything, they were creative and made it these references into other funny references or new locations. Like one level is literally called "Red Light District" with a pornography store, strip club and bar. In the N64, its a gun store, restaurant, and kitchen.
Great Work Buddy
The Dreamcast one is my favorite and the superior version, though the N64 had extra files.
I remember hoping the GameCube version would be the Dreamcast version with the N64 extra files and blood changes.
Missing music tracks, tho.
You forgot to mention that the N64 version has the "EX FILES" that you can find in certain spots that kinda touch base on RE1 story stuff.
Capcom: It is impossible ot get this game on a cartridge. Rockstar North: Hold my beer!
Additional to the N64 version, there are several cutscenes which have been doctored, to remove the "specific character" that is being played, meaning that you just recycle the same cutscene.
For example, the helicopter crash onto of the RPD. This usually has a brief clip of Leon or Claire's reaction to it. That is simply cut, and the same sort of thing is true of ANY "character specific" scene, clearly as just another trick to save on space.
For the N64 port there is one aspect of the game you did not mention.
The control options.
The controls can be configured to work relative to your screen position (i. e. You go closer to the screen by pressing down, go left pressing left, etc.
Just found your channel love the port vs port comparisons!!
Thank you so much for your words! Lotta time has been put into them so I'm glad they help!
You’re a good narrator. Can’t say the same for other clowns on TH-cam. Good job!
I appreciate that that's very kind of you! I love doing voice work so it's been fun getting that across! Thanks for the watch!
lovley video. thanks for your work buddy. best from berlin!
And cheers from the US. Very glad and happy you love the video man!
Man, the Dreamcast was and still is a beast!
@Wade Wilson Carrier was awesome. A bit generic, maybe. But it had a better combat system than any of the RE games it was ripping off. Illbleed is a mixture of frustrating and pure awesome. Took me a bit to learn it's esoteric mechanics, and the combat is pretty putrid, but there's nothing quite like it, and probably never will be again. D2... my first ever taste of full frontal polygon nudity. Game is so weird. I've yet to finish it.
@@AgentMorgan2010 Dude D2 screwed me up back in the day!
I love anything to do with Resident Evil, I just subscribed to your channel!
For me my fav was the Dreamcast version. The picture and sound quality just seemed the best.
Kinda ironic, 'cause it's missing some music tracks.
Dreamcast version has a red cast.
Picked up RE2 and RE3 for GameCube at GameStop when they were clearancing them out. At the time I had no idea they’d skyrocket in value. I think I paid less than $20 for both? Great games no matter what you decide to play them on!
Agree on all levels. It's crazy how they skyrocketed and if anything it felt like it's never coming down. Insane
Same here. I bought 2,3 and Code Veronica on GC about 10 years ago before the prices skyrocketed. The prices are insane now. Never sell them!
@@patrickmurphy9470 nope, never. I don’t plan to, ever.
Press "F" for respect towards 5th and 6th gen consoles. Such a great era in video game history!
you forgot the most crucial detail that makes the gamecube version the definitive version: you can skip cutscenes. no, not FMVS, cutscenes. you no longer have to suffers marvin's sob story or kendo's speech every time you play.
Umm. You're completely Wrong about the Dreamcast Version. It has higher resolution than the N64 version easily. DC runs at 480p with full backround resolution. How the tf are you going to say the N64 ver. has a higher resolution and then clearly when it switches back to N64 from DC have it show in the video that the N64 ver is wayy uglier?
The N64 version has varying resolution, got check Digital Foundry's retro look if you're really that bothered (sad).
Also there's technically no "full bg resolution", it's still the PC assets at 320x240 stretched to fill the screen.
@@MorrisseyMuse the resolution that the game is being output at, and the resolution of the 2D assets are completely different things. Yes the game on N64 might support 480i resolution with the Xpansion PAK, but the 2D assets like the backgrounds, do not change in resolution. They are 320x240 regardless of weather the N64 is outputting 240p or 480i. The N64 just upscales them.
@Darren Clyde you're completely wrong. 2D assets are 320x240. Output resolution changes depending on weather you have the xpansion Pak installed or not. Please do research on this before you reply to tell me i am wrong. You will find i am correct. If you reply to simply tell me i am wrong again, i will not respond.
@@MorrisseyMuse RE2 on N64 only switches in res between 240p and 480i if you're using the expansion pak, and the res switch is on specific screens throughout. It's not true dynamic resolution based on what's happening onscreen like in modern titles. All that being said, the DC version is still higher res at 480p.
Very good video and provides a lot of information than just standard comparison videos. Keep it up.
Always will man. thank you for your words!
So you forgot to add the N64 option of First person mode, that allows you to play the game without tank controls.
1st person mode it such a game changer. In some parts it makes the game way easier, allowing you to get past zombies way faster than tank controls could. On the other hand, it's quite disorienting with the fixed camera angles. If, for example, you're trying to get past a Licker and the camera keeps screwing your controls, you could have an unintentionally tense time.
I say it's worth experiencing those controls at least once if you're an RE2 fan.
@@ChiruKobra Agreed, though if memory serves, in the PC port, the first person controls "lock" the direction you're moving into the new screen so long as you're holding that key down during the transition, then reorient themselves when you let go.
For example, if the screen you're on is oriented so Up goes East, then the next screen has Up going South, the game locks the controls so Up is still East in the new screen until you release it and it changes to South.
I could be remembering that incorrectly, though, so don't quote me on it.
I was gonna say the same. I played it a little on PS1, but I played through the whole thing, both campaigns on N64 and LOVED the 1st person controls. I'm surprised they weren't used in future ports and entries in the series.
4:11 - this is inaccurate. The RE2 N64 version CAN / DOES have CD quality music, it's just the sound fx that are compressed but the music is all good
Yup I found that out much later and was even more impressed by the compression tools used by Factor 5
Excluding PC:
Best graphics: Dreamcast
Best audio: GameCube
Best graphics: Dreamcast?!
Are you watching the video drunk?! 😆
Best graphics CLEARLY come from the GameCube.
Dreamcast, 2nd place.
@@ynotspank1 no he just a Sega Fanboy ignore him lol ! That's what happens when people become Fanboys they become blind to the truth lol !
@@crystianbarriga3801 The Segafanboys are for me the worst people on the community of videogames, I hate this people, they always want to have the reason and the truth for all. This people really, really made me sick!
thanks that was cool and precise !
gamecube is the best
I played N64 version first and later in Nintendo Gamecube and you are right GC is the best version
N64 is the best version cos if the addition content and fastest loading times.
PABLO ANDRES BAEZ RIVERA Mlehh..
I do not know what kind of console you used, but to me the gamecube loads much faster than nintendo 64, and graphically speaking resident evil 2 has much better graphics in gamecube than in 64
No bro, el de Dreamcast es muchísimo mejor. Pero el porr de GameCube es bueno también.
One of my all time favourite games. I played it for the first time in around 2000 or 2001. Yet I've only just started playing the first Resident Evil for the first time last night.
Of course Dreamcast is the winner. The cutscenes are fullscreen people. PSX wasn't able to do that. Gamecube went with PSX port which doesn't have the full screen cutscenes. Those Dreamcast fullscreen cutscenes has also clearer video. That together with the game makes the best version. DC FTW
It has better graphics than the Cube version as well. The GC port was very lazy. Lots of clipping in character models and such. It also retailed at $40 on the Cube whereas it retailed for $20 on DC at launch. I bought both when they released, and they charged me double for less on the Gamecube.
@@AgentMorgan2010 Clippings? I have it on the Gamecube and it doesn't do that.
Besides, the Dreamcast version is missing music tracks and the red taint is kinda annoying.
The relationship between characters and backgrounds in n64 is like putting a tropical sunny background behind indoor selfie photo
Best way to play: dolphin emulator with HD texture pack.
I'd say PC version, as it has even more offerings for texture packs and mods
The one thing that wasn’t mentioned was the lack of extreme battle mode on the N64 version as well as one cutscene being reused. Also the music had a much higher sample rate than all the other versions and had Dolby surround. The extra files that tie in with resident evil zero and 3and the costumes were also something unique. being able to change to first person control scheme.
Cool you forgot PC but its really no boost way cool video!
I was just sitting here wondering which of these ports is closest to the PC port, as that's the version I'm most familiar with.
@@Dargonhuman yeah that's true. I have played PS1 n64 and the game cubes before I tried the PC version but the lack of controller I didn't like it much. Lol but love Re2 no matter what!
@@Megatron_Hunt_Life If you have a USB controller of some type like a wired X-Box 360 or USB adapter for a console controller, you can get a program called Joy2Key to map the keyboard commands to the controller inputs and use that.
It's not perfect, and J2K can be a bit fiddly with some older games, but for the most part it gets the job done to convert keyboard only games to a controller.
@@Dargonhuman oh I didn't think about looking for something like that I'm just to use to the new game's just seeing the controller lol
@@Megatron_Hunt_Life It's all good; I was the same way a few years ago. I couldn't even conceive of such a thing being possible until an online Flash game explained how it worked and put up download links for Joy2Key. The game itself is long gone, but the J2K program is still online for download.
Fantastic video man . Just came here after watching MVG's take on the N64 version
Very kind of you to say so man and very glad you loved the video!
I need to check out the MVG's video on it but dude does fantastic work. Thanks for watching
7:19 The locker is a JoJo reference!
DID YOU JUST MAKE A MOTHERFUCKING JOJO REFERENCE?!?!?
@@Kelphelp Capcom did make a JoJo fighter and was porting it some in the late 90's. They certainly weren't strangers to it.
awesome video man congrats, amazing
Thank you man I really mean that! I'm glad ya loved the video dude!
I think The Best graphic on resident evil 2 have sega dreamcast
It was. I had it on PS1 and DC and my friend had the 64 version and even he said the DC version is the best one.
7:10
Looks like I really lucked out. I got my copy of RE2 back in 2011 for about $11.
this is one of those games that epitomizes my love of video games. i really liked the n64 version because of the cheats. i suck at resident evil games, but love them anyway. so that invincibility cheat helped suck ass me through the experience of the story at least. plus the n64 version just has a mystique. the n64 game that shouldn't exist. the impossible n64 game. two playstation disks on an n64 cartridge? it can't be done! but here it is.
Those cheats are actually on every version but the original vanilla one on PS1! Totally agree, having those cheats on makes for a fun playthrough to speed through.
Beating a game with cheats lame!
5:59 Quality of life? Yeah I caught what you just did there 😅
I never realized that edit I did but... :3
i see you but its like the words arent coming out of your mouth
Probably might be since it's all audio dub, so there is that.
Also what does this even mean
@@Kelphelp he means that the audio and video aren't properly synced... It was almost like watching a translated Godzilla movie. :)
@@AFFL1CTED1 Ive gotten about over 100 comments on the audio sync. Was my fault during the editing process. Should be fixed next video
Nice video man! I was looking for something like this.
Thank you man. I do this kinda comparison alot so look forward for more to come!