I died when the Greek girl finished talking about how Greek people really hate Turkish people and the Turkish guy said "We have bigger problems with bigger nations so we don't really have prejudices against Greece" lmaooo
12:00 i really wonder how 'the most intelligent and important people on the earth' could be that much indebted and needed German's money to save some of their little rocks(they call them islands) from privatisation
@@ykscalsan7240 Funny how most Turks would gladly move to Germany to beg for a half decent job if they could.Pretty ironic don't you think ? You make fun of Greeks for borrowing money from Germany when millions of Turks beg for all kinds of unskilled labor in Germany.
@@andreas3850 it's not funny also Germans invite Turks to come to Germany for those jobs. That's bilateral. Beyond that Turks are doing all kind of jobs in Germany. In addition to that özlem türeci and uğur șahin are Turkish(they invented covid vaccine). I also didn't make fun of them because they begged Germans. I made fun of statement of this girl who says Greeks are most intelligent and important people on the earth. Finally it can't be ironic because i have never said Turks are the most important and intelligent people on the earth
Prejudice? All of these are historical facts. Smh the west is so ignorant of the tragedies that Greeks have suffered. Probably because we aren't Asian/African/Hispanic and we aren't Muslim or any other non Christian religion.
Don't blame her. It's their culture as it seems and they backup their daily dose of hatred with an anthem that is equally no short of lies, hate and prejudice.
@@ses4068 that's true. In their schools, they teach Istanbul conquest as invading. Our armies fought and the winning side took the land which happened all the time in world history. Mehmet II allowed Greeks to practice their own culture, language and religion. They didn't teach these things to them and they glorify their history as if they were sent by God to that land and they never killed anyone or did any conquests. They portray themselves as the victim all the time. We had 5 wars with Greeks during Turkish independance war. We won 4 of them and lost 1. They even don't teach them those 4 wars just because they lost can you imagine that? They all know about that 1 war they won against us. We as Turks were never taught to hate Greeks at school.
The same here bro. but there are a lot of people who will hate The Turkish nation. So it is a little bit disappointment, that we cannot change their thoughts. 😓
Hes polite because he has to be. the ottoman empire colonized and establshed 400 years of slaver in eastern europe and africa, and only ended 31 years prior but not before committing one more genocide, against the armenians
@@samuraikyokkan Lying is in your blood. How true is it to talk without information or documentation? Lying, slandering is the work of beings that are lower than animals.
I just saw one adult among the kids who is the Turkish boy. Only he didn’t say anything negative about any country. He was there like a diplomat who defends his country in an international congress. He was so kind and classy yet smart and well-educated.
He gave a clear anti-communist answer tough. Those days we didn't have any problem at all with the Russians. In fact the opposite, Turks always used the Russians to gain something from the imperialists by threatening them.
We are talking about cold war years when the the world had divided two parts politically. You were either American’s side or Russians. And Turkey had strong political and militarywise or even financial relationships with America that time. So it was natural for Turkey to take Russia as a potential enemy. However, he still didn’t say anything negative about Russian people or their culture. He never took down the discussion to regular people’s level. He kept it as governments’ political discussion level.
When the Greek girl said "Greeks didn't have the oppurtunity to study their own language," and it was had to be "secretly and in bad conditions" , I thought it is funny because of the fact that Phanar Greek Orthodox College, the oldest surviving Greek Orthodox School in Istanbul was ordered by Mehmet II to be built in 1454. It still operates to this day.
@@aycasonerci6048 what the hell are you talking about? There hasn't been a Greek population in Turkey that is 5 million, not even before the population exchange of 1923. There is still-operating 3 Greek Orthodox Schools (Phanar, Zapyon, Zografeion) in Istanbul and that is enough for Greeks who wish their children to learn and study Greek. Even the Greek and Arab Orthodox people living in Antioch study in these schools. There are also 2 Greek schools in Gökçeada (Imbros). I don't know if there is any other Greek schools but there might be, you might want to check but I don't think you ever will.
@@alperuner5025 the girl is talking as if the Ottoman monuments in Greece are maintained like the most Greek monuments over here lol and don't get me started on the condition of muslims in east Greece near the border...it is not perfect here either but it is definetely not worse than there anyway I really don't like having debates like these but their self righteous attitude really annoys me
Seems you dont know enough history. And the same for the Turkish guy whom doesnt know his own history of slavery and genocide of the ottomans, which only dissolved 31 years prior. Some people would say the turks never got the justice deserved back at them by a europe that almost lost against them, and rose to be exponentially more powerful.
@@samuraikyokkanThere used to be slavery in Ottoman Empire before Sultan Abdülmecit lawfully banned the practice altogether. But there was never a genocide. You’re just parroting what the coward Armenians have been lying about for years to the West. And they famously refused to open their archives in order to conduct an unbiased historical investigation about their allegations lmao what do you make of that
@@turkishissunlanguage what a lot of bullshit)) miserable attempt to justify and defend turks, like you guys always do when disgusting moments of your history is brought up. Every goddamn nation has those moments in recent history, most of them take responsibility, and only you, The Turks™ are clean and shine, always blaming Kurds or whatever whatnot you think up. I live in Turkey since 2017, i love this country and it's people, but the cowardly way you try to justify every goddamn mistake your country did with your miserable lie attempts is just obnoxious. Adam ol oğlum, ne yaptığınızı uzun zamandır herkes biliyor, bu yalana sadece türkler inanıyor, bütün dünya nasıl yanlış olabilir ?
@@turkishissunlanguage I guess because I’m terms of foreign incursions Icelandic history has been pretty uneventful. Whereas Turkey is in between 3 continents and had an empire engaged in lots of conflicts over 1000 years
@@GeekInTime Hatred against Turks was and is Greeks' only business. However we Turks approach them with respect and positive emotions like in the past.
@@user-lp1tn1bs6n she kept justify the opinion of "Greek people". I think there's a difference between direct the opinion as the way it is, and direct your opinion as it is the general arguement.
@@alisaygl5760 eğitim kalitesi işte o zamanlarda . Köy enstitüleri okullarının bir eğitimine bak şaşırırsın öyle güzel ki şimdi her şey ezber suandakiler okuduğunu anlamiyor kendi anadilinde İngilizceyi bırak.
@@adilomeraydn9364 bilmeden konuşma mi agshs çok cahilsin ama ben zaten 1954te kapatıldığını biliyorum ayrıca önder bey lisede bu videoda yani köy enstitüleride okumuş olabilir bu bir ornekti illa okudu demiyorum örnek veriyor ki önder bey Eskişehir lisesinde okumuş 1958 senesini geçtim benim babam memur 60 yaşında bundan 78 senesinde aldığı lise eğitimi ile benim şuan üniversitede aldığım eğitim bile eşit değil bırak 78 i bundan 20 öncesinin eğitimi bile benim üniversitemin eğitime eşit değil yani anlatmak istediğim buydu ama merak etme eğer okuduğunu anlamıyorsan bu sadece senin suçun değil 20 senede gördüğün berbat ezberci eğitimin suçu hadi.
@tavukpilavci aslında burada seni aşağılamıyorum eğitimin kötü olduğunu anlatmaya çalışıyorum ilk cümleden belli zaten ayrıca suandakiler okuduğunu anlamiyor derken beni kanıtlamış olduğun için teşekkür ederim 😂
Gözlerim doldu gerçekten. Uzun yıllar önce gencecik çocuklar böylesine akıllı, deneyim dolu bilgileri söyleşi havasında birbirleriyle konuşup tartışabiliyorlar. Ne muazzam bir durum. Önder bey umarım yaşıyorsunuzdur. Sevgi ve saygılar sunuyorum.
Hasan bey size katılıyorum. Eski insanlar medeni, kendini bilen insanlarmış. Erkekleri beyefendi. Kadınları hanımefendi olduğu yıllarmış. Ne kadar kültürlüler.
Burada bahsettiğiniz insanlar zaten iyi ailelerden gelmiş kişiler. Asil halka bakarsaniz ne kadar cahil cühela bir topluluk oldugunu gorebilirdiniz. Bu çogu ulke icin boyleydi. Boyle bireysel ornekler uzerinden Anadolu halki hakkinda fikir urettiğimizi sanmak saçmalik
As a greek , I am ashamed of that girl, typical example of brainwashing. Despite any differences on a government level (i support neither of them), turkish people are really friendly and open to greeks as they share a similar culture and way of life. Fortunately, nowdays many greeks and especially younger ones seem to realise that and letting go of their prejudices.
Greetings from Turkey komşu 🤗 ❤️There are also some people who are Turkish versions of this Greek girl especially some people from older generations. But I can assure you, you can not find a racist young Turk against Greek people. Because we believe that if we do the same mistakes like discrimantions, racism, war etc. which were done by older generations of Turkey and Greece the world will never be a better place. We will just repeat the same fucking problems and young people don't want to fight with anybody ❤️ WE JUST WANT TO HUG EACH OTHER AS GREEK AND TURKISH PEOPLE ❤️
The politicians do this to people for their interests , they need haters… Majority of Turkish people like Greeks , we are almost same ; foods, musics, geography, emotions, sea.. unfortunately every nation has their idiots and racist people, thanks god they are minority. No need prejudice. We need peace in the world. 🇹🇷❤️🇬🇷
+If the Ottoman Empire didn't give you the freedom of religion and the freedom of keeping your civilization, I don't think you'd be able to talk this way today just because there wouldn't be any nation called Greece anymore. -I DOn'T tHInK THiS iS a VerY EfFeCtiVe ArgUmAnT
It's because that's what they've been taught by their education system. Most Greeks geniunely believe that the only reason their ancestors could "survive 400 years of aggression" is thanks to magical, high-class, secret schools... You don't even need historical knowledge to debunk this, just use your damn common sense!!!
@WhiteHair Rules Ah yes the intolerance of turks. Lets forget the genocides commited by the ottomans in the balkans and the christian kingdoms of the east.
@@aurelian2668 Dude are you high? Did you learn history from BigMac box or what? I heard lots of childish accusations about different nations but this is next level.
To be honest, turks really dont care about greeks that much but i know many greeks are very hateful against to turks, also scared of them as well in case a war come up one day
@@carl4243 large Turkish population is living there. Also Cyprus was unlawfully occupied by the British, it was ottoman colony before. To summarize it rightfully belong to Turkey.
Önder. Sen mükemmel bir detaysın. 🌸 Yıllar önce adeta Türkiye ve Türkler adına böylesi ağır nefret söylemlerinde bulunan insanlara karşı böylesine muazzam bir tavırla savunduğun halkın seninle gurur duyuyor. Türkler tüm dünyaya medeniyeti öğretmeye devam ediyor. Güzel ülkemin asil insanları. Her birinize selam olsun❤️ Varlığım o eşsiz varlığınıza armağan olsun.
Umarım Önder Güler hâlâ hayattadır. Saldırgan ve küstah Yunan kızının yönelttiği sorulara karşılık çok zekice ve mantıklıca cevablar verdi. Seni yürekten kutluyorum Önder Amca!
I like how the Turkish boy is so classy and educated at such a young age. He did a good job handling the insults. Which is more than I can say for the ignorant Greek girl, she was so disrespectful like wtf. As the old proverb says 'The dogs bark, but the caravan goes on. Greetings from Azerbaijan.
Wow, this was so fascinating. All of these kids were so intelligent and articulate. And even though the topics were divisive, they were so calm and respectful. And as aTurkish Australian, I must say the Turkish boy was a delight.
,,Avustralyalı Türk,,. Türk heryerde Türkdür. Nerede ve nasıl yaşarsan yaşa Türksündür. Avustralyada yaşaman, Sizi Avustralyalı yapmaz. 45 Yıldan fazla Almanyada yaşadım (Çocukluğumdan beri) hiçbirzaman kendimi ,,Almanyalı Türk,, olarak tanımlamadım. Ve uzun zamandır Amerikada yaşıyorum. Burada da değişen birşey yok ,,Amerikalı Türk,, değil.!! Türk'üm.
Who came here from the first prejudice video? (The one with Raul Conteras) all of the representatives there were so polite and humble, they look like the kind of ppl who'd go out and be friends after the debate
It's funny how the Greeks considered themselves so superior. At that time, all countries were ruled by a monarchy, it is wrong for the Greek girl to criticize without taking this into account. This means that even if another country occupied it, the same results would be experienced. It is quite normal for every country to have a desire to expand its territory. We all know the cruelty and barbarism they tried to inflict on the Turks when the Greeks rose up and occupied the shores of Izmir. The Greeks failed to do this, just like other countries. For this reason, everyone has a grudge against the Turks.
The wonderful answers of the Turkish guy astonished me. I had so much fun listening to him. He had a very easy and polite manner of speaking, a true Istanbul gentleman
A senseless racism was committed against the Turks. Although we Serbs have had many wars, the Turks are brave, fearless good fighters. And they have a civilization of five thousand years, from the Korean peninsula to Hungary. 3 months ago…It has been 3 months since I first wrote it and I continue to research. I must say for sure that when I read about Kemal's life, I was fascinated by him.It is an honor to have a great commander and a great diplomat master leader like Mustafa Kemal.I have studied the steps of her whole life, I really believe that she has a special mission as if she was sent to the world to save all the Turks.
I agree with you. Yes, we Turks are warriors. Like many other nations, but we must not forget that it is not our genetics that make us the way we are. What drives us to this is; with the places we live in, the geography, our neighbors and many more external factors.
Thanks for the kind words 🇹🇷♥️🇷🇸 you are educated and look at things from a logical perspective. Sadly many people assume all the worst about us while knowing absolutely nothing about either our culture or history besides simple propaganda. This is fed by governments, it's always easy to give others the blame... We have to simply not allow that. It doesn't help our relations but also not our development. Good day!
First of all, greetings from Cyprus, I am also a Turkish Cypriot, but I congratulate Önder not because I am Turkish, but because he gave very good answers to his Greek girl, he is really comfortable and very professional
The greek girl is probably of Turkish descent and descendant of those Turks who were translocated to Greece due to their Orthodox Christian faith in the 1920s treaty between Turkey and Greece. Maybe that's partly what drove her antipathy towards Turks as a collective judging from her tone. You'll find that when someone does not fully fit into a group of people he or she becomes more aggressive. Maybe that's her way of proving her loyalty to the Greeks.
@@coloneltushfinger69420 there were hundreds of thousands of Christian Turks. They even undeniably Turkic. I think these people should be informed that they aren’t Greek
The Turkish kid was raised by good people. I wish more people were like him. Edit: Bruh god forbid you compliment someone on TH-cam comment section or have an opinion.
@Abdullah Bican ilkelliği ve tekdüzeliği savunan senin kafandakiler ilk-orta hatta lise çağındaki, bu konularda mukayese etme becerisi iyi olmayan çocuklara "din" adı altında sadece islam eğitimi verip herkesi kendi düşündüğü gibi düşünmeye iten saçma sistemden bahsediyorum
@Abdullah Bican hahahah tam da düşündüğüm kafadasın hemen hakaret etmeye başlamışsın, aboneliklerine bakınca da kafanın içini görebiliyorum sen şeyhlerine müritlik yapıp etek öpmeye devam et teknoloji senin neyine biatçı :D
Bu Atatürk'ün değil A.menderes zamanına denk geliyor ve menderes zamanında Türkiye en refahlı zamanını yaşadı ekonomi'de 12. Olduk Dünya'da sonra adamı astılar
@@zeitgeistizsser oyle birşey olmadı 1950 de başa geçti 1954 kadar marshal yardımları felan filan dışarıdan gelen paralar ile iyi oldu , sonraki 6 sene çok kötüydü ekonomi ve dikdalık vardı , asılması hataydı bugunki gibi kahraman olamazdı .
@@p0kem0nu amerikan yardımını o zaman alan 16 ülke vardı ve ayrıca Amerika Marshall dışında bazı ülkelerede yardım etti ama mesele o değildi menderes parayı iyi kullandı ve sonra Türkiye'de gereksiz yere bir darbe oldu ve menderes iktidarıda emekleride boşa gitti sonraki zaten emeklerin mahvolduğu 6 yıl
Türküm diye demiyorum ama Türk çocuk bizi çok güzel temsil etmiş. Nazik, saygılı, kibar ve asil... Gerçekten yunan olsam yunan kızın söyledikleri için utanırdım bence kendini çok küçük düşürdü
You gotta understand her that's 400 years of slavery Bulgaria was even worse 500 years of ottoman occupation. You need to pay us reparations for at least 7 generations and return the stolen lands .
@@emre_iris what ? But Africans are now asking for reparations from Americans so we got it much worse in our lands what will Turkey do to make it right ?
@@emre_iris Really asking that question are you turk ?? First they tried to convert us to islam didn't succeed, then tried by force killing thousands of innocent Bulgarians ,raping women in every village, stealing the youngest son and taking him to the army ,so later he can kill his own family if necessary. From 1396 when the Last Bulgarian Tsardom of Vidin fell to 1878 when we liberated from Ottoman occupation that's 500 years in which ottomans didn't built any infrastructure, in that time Western Europe was blooming with the Renesance and we lived in primitive conditions . To this day not a single Turkish president or a leader came to our country and to apologise for what his country did to us . God is watching and I know that someday Ottomans now Turkey will pay a huge price for what they did .
@Mariana Soarez That's so accurate. When my grandma tells something bad about Greeks, i don't understand why i should hate them. But thanks to western propaganda i was always thinking Arabs have black skin and all of them wears black hijab.
I am a Turk and most of the new generation think the same way, we both suffer from the actions of our current stupid governments but we people are no different than each other. The hate is left in the past and within the minds of those who choose to live in the past.
@@Raven_Black_252 Oh right, our goverment is stupid but theirs is awesome. How nice. The stupid one is the so called "new generation" who growt with playing video games that causes of their brain damage. What next? Giving of northern part of Cyprus. I´m not surprise if that new generation says "yes."
It wasn’t Turkish occupation, The Ottoman Empire was ruling half of Europe and some parts of North Africa. They never banned their language or religion. It was an empire just like the British empire or the German empire or the Russian one. Why so much racism towards Ottoman Empire?
Believe me nothing changes with the time 😍 Still same shit in 2021, tired of being a turk because of this people,,, so much racism and we dont know why lmaoo
@@HitroLis Muslims for example like Crimean Tatars had also to pay taxes, that’s why they were after slaves in East Europe, to be able to pay the taxes. Jewish people payed less taxes than any other ethnic or religious groups. Сердечно 😊😘🤗
Turkish boy (Önder Güler) was so smart, elegant and pretty polite. He spoke perfectly and did not get irritated at all, what a wise boy he was at that age. Very proud of him representing us Turkish people excellently. 💓❤
Turkey doesn't care about Greece, get it. We have no hostility towards Greece. They fight with themselves, we look at them and laugh. I feel sorry for Greece. what a pity. Turks don't care about you, Greeks, understand this. How well turkish youth said it;
As a Greek person we do not claim her she is a disgrace plain and simple. I love Turkey and a very close friend of mine is turkish. I feel embarrassed and I apologize .
It's alright there is no need to apologise, we know that she is just an exeption and that not all Greeks are like that.She was most likely influenced by her parents, it doesn't justify her actions but still.I and other Turks appreciate your kind words.
You don't have to. None of them spoked for any country, they spoked for their own opinion. Spread love... Big hugs to you. This is the way Önder Güler preferred in my opinion.
An opinion whose argument is weak is quite low. The Turks are even stronger than you think.Don't let the current situation mislead you, Turkish youth have never lost their power and love of country, And no Turk holds a grudge against foreign countries . Turkish people is peaceful
I think the girl from Malaya felt she was being attacked. That smile was a defense mechanism. The Icelandic and Thai participants were just chillin'. The Filipina girl killed it and spoke very straightforward with no filters. Truthful and pure facts!!!
@@wrongshirts7375 you really love to but in with this kind of drama😆. Want to get mentioned everytime, bet your notifs were floodin with replies, g-luck
I know someone who has the same "humor" as that Malaya lady. Annoying and defensive. Good job Ms Philippines for calmly handling insults she spewed. Level headed and very mature of Ms Philippines.
She was so arrogant that I feel she looked down all the people in that certain room. Mainly maybe because she was rich and everything that she could not relate and thinks she is superior but it tells us everything about her environment and how she was raised the way she is. It's saddening, she has such a rude elitist attitude.
also let's not forget iceland guy, standing closest to malaya girl yet he kept a straight face, didn't laught at malaya girl's stupidity and hypocrisy also kudos for the rest of them for being smart, respectful and giving everyone more than enough time to speak unlike one of them who interrupted the others just to say something racist
That Turkish man has much better grammer, prononciation and intonation compared to many other Turkish millenials(or middle aged men-women) with all the technological facilities of today(TH-cam, bisuu, Google translate, etc…). Impressive.
Imagine being the 81-year old Malayan grandma watching yourself on TH-cam, reading the hate comments about the young version of yourself. That must suck.
It seems that the Turkish kid grew up with Atatürk's philosophy "peace in home peace in the world". We see a Turkish child raised with love and a Greek child raised with hatred. I hope something has changed.
"Gençler cesaretimizi takviye ve idame eden sizlersiniz. Siz, almakta olduğunuz terbiye ve irfan ile insanlık ve medeniyetin, vatan sevgisinin, fikir hürriyetinin en kıymetli timsali olacaksınız. Yükselen yeni nesil, istikbal sizsiniz. Cumhuriyeti biz kurduk, onu yükseltecek ve yaşatacak sizsiniz."
It has changed. To be honest I am Greek and I don’t know anyone who hates Turk people. We don’t really care to be honest. It’s the government that we don’t like and the history of pain they have caused to our people. However I would have no problem to have a Turk friend. Really.
@@ellimars7489 As a turk, We dont care as well this situation. So many turkish people doesent finds a problem between greek people and us. Because we sharing the same culture. Ottoman empire never said itself the 'Turkic Empire'. Ottoman emperors said 'Rumi' himself. Rumi means roman. Ottoman empire is a continue of byzantine for ottoman elites. In this way, ottoman empire never does specially nationalistic behaviors the other races. We turkish people are already know this. But some of the balkan people cannot understand this like arabs. We are not so different peoples with greeks. Only we are muslim but 90 percent of people are secular and nobody matters the religion. So we doesent matter the this absurd nationalistic shit. I wish a lot of love. 2 States 1 Culture 🇹🇷🇬🇷
The Greek girl said that they had suffered a lot under Turkish rule and their thoughts of independence blossomed under this pressure. The next moment she defended strongly that 120000 Turkish people should remain under Greek rule in Cyprus. What a double standard!!
@@HJS2000 No, when we were defeated in a war against the British in Cyprus, which was Turkish territory for more than 300 years from 1571, only the administration authority passed to the British, but the land will still belong to us. After this agreement, Cyprus was annexed by the British and Greeks began to live in the region. However, for many years, the majority of people there were Turks. The Greeks living there wanted to unite with Greece and by forming an uprising they called ENOSIS, they murdered the Turks in the region in a planned way in order to dominate the entire Cyprus lands. For years, they have massacred the people they lived on the same land in peace, their neighbors, with internal turmoil and with the support of weapons they received from other countries such as England and Greece. Their aim is to have full control of the Cyprus lands and to want to unite with Greece. This non-war massacre is considered a regional genocide and is inhumane. After this incident, the whole world stood up.
@@HadeS-Gyneco-Phobia broo you’re seriously hurt why to bother writing a saga here in yt:D I personally know a girl who married a greek guy,they met in uni.Idk why are you so upset about this.And I don’t agree with you about Turks and Greeks are being polar opposite even tho you’re Christian and we’re Muslim our foods culture and family structure is so similar
I find it pretty ironic that the delegate from a country founded by Vikings grew up afraid that Turkish pirates would come sack his town and kidnap him.
I just can tell the malayan girl is too proud of herself being chinese and that she is more "civilized". It was an passive-agressive act like what the chinese are doing in the west philippine seas. She is spewing too much racism.
@@jonathanbalagtas848 hey dont go there, go attack her for being rude & arrogant but its kinda racist for u to say stuff abt the virus no one wants that, literally asians r struggling w/ hate crimes abt the virus including filos.
@MattC Keşke öyle olsa keşke düzelsek bende hala umutluyum bizden düzeltebiliriz gençlik bu durumu kurtarabilir ama bi insan neden değer verilmediği bir yerde yaşamayı ve geliştirmeyi düşünsün diyede aklıma gelmiyor değil ama en azından bizden sonraki nesil daha mutlu ve huzurlu yaşamasını istiyorsak biraz dişimizi sıkmamız gerekiyor tıpki çanakkaledeki sakaryadaki ve bir çok yerdeki askerlerimizin bizim için yaptığı gibi
evet yiyecek yemeğimiz yok usa nın boktan süt tozlarını içiyoruz. bayiler araba kaynıyor ama alamıyoruz. en son model cep telefonları çıkıyor uzaktan izliyoruz. ilaç ve hastane mi o da ne? hastalandığımız an mıçtık. savunma mavunma zaten yok. neyse abd bize kullanıp fırlatıp bir kenara attığı külüstürleri verecek ne yapalım hiç yoktan iyidir. ulaşım falan da yok zaten geç onu. zaten biz hiç bir şey yapamayız, biz kimiz ki? haddimizi bileceğiz haddimizi! abd yakında çin e savaş açarsa alakamız olmasa bile sömürge olduğumuz için mecburen bizi de götürecek ama ne yapalım vatan sağ olsun deriz.
If "to eat like a Turk" is used as an insult in Greece, then they know absolutely nothing about us. Do you know how much preparation goes to having a meal in a Turkish home? All of us take our shoes off (some switch to indoor shoes or slippers) right before we step in. Stereotypical Turkish mothers, grandmas and teyzes beat your ass if you don't wash your hands before a meal. Our elders always advise us to say "Bismillah" before taking a bite which is the Muslim way of thanking God. Finally, we have our own saying in Turkish "Ellerinize sağlık!" which means "May health come to your hands!", we use it to thank the cooks for our meal. "May good health come to your hands that have prepared us this meal". I find it funny how people who hate us have come up with these super unrealistic ways to feed their own ego, when they know nothing about how much Turkish culture values hygiene and cuisine.
@@yourbodyis75waterandimthir44 its not just for turkish, you can see the racism in every language. we tried to fix our language and one day we will do.
I admire how eloquently they spoke with each other; they had the ability to talk about a, sort of, contentious subject calmly. I don’t suppose the majority of children these days can hold an important conversation as such together.
Ok, so here's my research: The Filipina girl, Patsy Pagaduan, is the ate of the activist Carol Araullo. So pamangkin nya si Atom. She became a feminist and a professor at Purdue University. Apparently she's still alive.
The Greek woman made an embarrassing speech for her country, I'm sure other Greeks won't join her, by the way, thank you to the Turkish young man for keeping his calm
@@tarihcipenceresi9330 just leave how simple is that. Not like turks doesn't have space in their land. Hell you don't even want to free kurdish lands because of how greedy you are with your lands.
Wow. They touched on both the Cyprus situation and the Pakistan one. And within 20 years of this discussion Cyprus wasn't part of Greece but unofficially partitioned pretty much as the Turkish boy suggested. And Pakistan was in fact divided from Bangladesh and didn't stay a single nation as the Greek girl mentioned it to be.
12:28 "We got bigger problems with bigger nations, so we don't have the same kind of prejudices against Greeks" Wow that sounds like a finishing punch line from a 80's action movie 👏👏👏
Why would they hve any prejudice against greeks anyways? it wasn’t the greeks who invaded their land and killed people. Its like you say french people should hate black people 😂 it’s the black people who dont like the french bc they were occupiers and enslaved them. Makes no logic
@@cheesaineko Greeks invaded Turkish and and killed Turkish people several times. Read some history. There is many countries with black populations which are official language is French by the way.
@@barispeace Greeks didnt invade any Turkish lmao. you should learn some history. go and see where turks come from and then tell me if ever greeks went there 😂
@@cheesaineko No they have invaded and they have kicked out by Turkish Army led by Atatürk. That is called Turkish War of Independence. Also the fact that is everyone in this planet comes from somewhere. Humans are not like mushrooms or plants.You should learn some basic human history.
@@barispeace they have “invaded” bc it was the agreement during the world war bc the ottoman empire then collapsed. I do know history :) Greeks did wrong things too they shouldn’t have gone too deep into turkey in lands where the agreement didn’t work but still turks ottomans call them whatever you want did way worse things to greeks
The Malaya Girl represents the mindset of Chinese settlers to other countries 50 years ago. Old Chinese settlers in PH, including my grand father, think they are smarter because they have businesses without considering that the Filipino culture does not surround around money and most Chinese that time were successful because they can trade with Chinese (because they can speak the language and there were cheap things from China even before then) and they did and still do not have problem employing other people and treating/paying them badly. Definitely, It is not a matter of intellect. As part Filipino Chinese, I see this kind of attitude among elders Chinese migrant to Philippines, even until now. The 2nd or 3rd generations Chinese now who understands Filipino culture and adopt the ways, are not as hard @sses. I actually stopped doing business with old Chinese people because I can't accept the business mindset and tight culture that they have that put more emphasis on money rather than fair treatment of human beings. It just didn't feel right as 3rd generation Filipino-half Chinese who is more Filipino. I think around that time of their debate, Philippines were more advance than most of our neighbors. We had a good amount of very educated people, and to be fair, I think compared to traditional Chinese, I think Filipinos at this time were more civilized than most of our neighbors. It was ironic that she shaded the Filipina kid and then said they are civilized. During this debate, the Filipina kid was more civilized and respectful. She really represented the Filipino way. Filipinos in the south are more related to indigenous Malaysians. So if she insulted Filipinos, she insulted the indigenous Malaysians, as well. Now I understand why in Malaysia, they have to label "Malaysian Chinese" the Malaysian Chinese in their passports because the Malaysian Chinese themselves define themselves as superior that ofc the real owners of the land will not be happy about. I hope the new generations right now will change it.
@@renzasss4070 from other comments above, even malaysians (actual natives and not imigrants) do not claim the malaysians chinese and distance themselves from them since the malaysain chinese would consider themselves more chinese anyway and follow cultures and beliefs of their chinese roots. Such as what the girl displayed here who is clearly more chinese than malaysian, showing how she could react in such a way (ofcourse as she is also chinese) whereas pure malaysian would understand what the filipina is trying to say about prejudice.
fyi, if you're looking for similar shows, maybe you can check out the Chinese shows 'Informal Talks' or 'A Bright World' or the Korean show 'Non-Summit' where representatives from different countries share opinions on various topics.
Precious video and honest conversation. Reflecting the people back then is more open-minded to talk about it, and yet remain respect to each other, with laughter
@@lulu9421 so was she representing the Chinese then? Because I was surprised she was speaking ill and critical of the Malays when she herself, as I had thought, was also from Malayan and I thought she was referring to her own people.
@@rabbitazteca23 I'm not sure if you've seen my other comments I've pasted all over this comment section, but here's something to consider why we Malaysians don't claim her. This debate took place in 1958, which is a year after Malaya achieved independence in 1957. Before independence, we live in RACIAL SEGREGATION under the British power. This means little to no exposure to each other's races within Malaya (Chinese, Malay, Indians all lived separately by regulation). Her parents or grandparents might also be migrated straight from China and were not true born Malayans. This could lead to the possibility of her being raised with China values and principles, hence her rather bias viewpoints. We don't claim her. Today, Malaysian Chinese wouldn't wanna associate themselves as China Chinese, we are Malaysian Chinese and want nothing to do with China. If we are attacked by foreigners, we will fight and protect the whole of Malaysia, not just our own race. That's the difference because recent generations are raised by true Malaysian-born parents. Independence gave us freedom to mix with each other's races, don't be surprised if we Chinese and Indians have a huge percentage of Malay in our blood. It's part of our history, we've been through thick and thin together. We are the real Malaysians, not her. Hope it's understandable. Year and events are important to one's representation and attitude here.
I dont know what on this Greek girl but I'm sure real civilized people just don't go around and say they're the most intelligent and civilized people on earth. Ps. Onder you're a great guy
@@christi3 Even if that was the case, which I think is not, since she literally said 'We thought we were better than the Turks.', It wouldn't change the fact that she thought of her kin as superior with the way she brought up the 'asking people with impolite behavior if they are a Turk' thing. And all her other statements as well. That doesn't justify anything.
18:50 The Great Greek Girl was talking about defending Cyprus against Russia and was proud of gaining independence from Turkey, but in 1974 the Turks had the last word and now the island is divided into 2 parts. Years later, Great Greek girls arguments once again succumbed to the well vision Turkish man
guess what the captain/pirate who was responsible for Tyrkjaránið is a Dutchman Jan Janszoon van Haarlem who converted to Islam and took the name of Murad Reis :)
Fun fact, that Malaya is now Malaysia, Not so fun fact, that Chinese girl from Malaya is how the Chinese in Malaysia still are, racists towards the local ethnic Malay people.
as a turkish teen i am so sorry to disagree with this common. i dont have any personal beef to any race, but people at my age in Türkiye is pretty racist- a ton of my classmates think that is is fun to tease with races, ecpecially Greeks.
I would say that the ChineseMalaysian was elitist but not racist... the Phillipino Girl was extremely biased against Chinese, basically nothing changed in 66 years.
@@bonaudi Malay are more elitist because we are the majority here, Chinese in Malaysia are still racist bastard, what the Filipino girl said about the Chinese is true, Chinese always make problems where there go and stay
The girl from Malaya said more civilized towards Japanese. I interpreted that as scheming and full of mind games. She always emphasize on uneducated, civilized, etc.. But, prejudices are prejudices. The Philippines was straightforward.
Even now in 2021, looking at the comments section i can see the hatred of some Greeks towards Turks. As a Turk, growing up, i was never taught to hate Greeks for the conflicts happened in the past (and happening all the time). But this young lady clearly hates the whole nation and this makes me really sad to see that the prejudice is horrible and racism and hatred are even more disgusting than that. As Mr. Onder said; we have bigger problems with bigger nations still due to super sensitive circumstances around our borders. As a Turk, even after i read about the horrible things done to Turkish women, children and men in Cyprus, or before the Cyprus conflict, I don’t hate Greek people nor have prejudice towards them. I am educated enough to know that mistakes or actions of people in the past can’t be related to actions/nations of today.
Hi sena, Greek here. I'm happy to hear that you were never taught to hate the Greeks or any nationality for that matter. Do not mind the greeks that only know how to insult someone for Turkey, they are not worth your time. They are no longer the rule but the exception, you may already have guessed that the older generation plays a role here. Victims of violence warn their kids about a specific group of people to the point the kids learns to hate them. Then that grows up to have kids of their own and the cicle continues . They tend to forget that times change and the people responsible are either dead or that they no longer represend their people. Sometimes it is not even the parents that are fault but the education system itself. At the start of her speech you can see how she boasts about the greek culture and nationality and what they achieved, that is a mindset that is planted in the minds of the youth. A bit of insider knowledge, even the military played their part in this, in the national liberation day (and Ochi day) students from ages 10+ learn how to do military marches, they go on a parade and salute the generals on their way. This sometimes becomes a hot topic as to a kid that celebrates their independece from the Ottoman empire in such a militaristic way can plant ideas in them. They are kids they should be worried more about if they ask their crush out, not saluting some man with a rank. Copying a page from the Turkish lad's book , Greeks today do not really care about Turkey. They are worried more about cracking down on corruption, if they can afford rent, if they can raise a family, Police abusing its power in some areas, companies "accidentally" burning entire forests to build more buildings and e.t.c. Every country has fanatics of any sort, either political or religious. Just don't let them be the voice of your people :)
@@TheMeatSlapper It's always good to see people with common sense. People like you and the millions of others are the voice of reason that is needed for a stable relation between our two countries. Just know that as a Greek tourist, you'd be very welcome in Turkey as Turkish people in general embrace and invite people regardless of ethnicity or religion, to their country because they love it so much. :)
Video kaydedildiği sırada Kıbrıs'ta bir Türk devleti yoktu fakat Önder Güler konuşurken Kıbrıs'ta iki devletli bir çözüm olması gerektiğini söyledi. Çok etkileyici. Geleceğe yönelik çok ilginç ve yerinde bir tahminde bulunmuş. Kıbrıs konusu şu an bile tamamen çözülmüş değil ama şu an benzer bir program yapılsa ve 50 yıl sonra Kıbrıs'ta ne durumda olacağımız sorulsa verilecek cevabın tutma olasılığı çok düşük. Amerikan askerleri hakkında yaptığı yorum biraz doğru fakat biraz da politik gibi geldi. Amerika'da yaşadığını ve yaşlandığını öğrendim. Büyük hayal kırıklığına uğradım. Üst düzey bir diplomat olmasını beklerdim, hem ülkemiz adına hem kendi adına büyük kayıp. Türkiye gençlerini kaybetmeye çok önceden başlamış.
Bu durum eminim Onder'in zamaninda da dillendiriliyordu. Adanin Turkiye'ye bakan tarafinin Turklere verilmesi cok da ucuk bir fikir degil. Ayrica yesil hatti cizen taraf da Ingiltere'ydi. Ayrica bugun geldigimiz nokta Onder'in seneler once bahsettigi sey. Yani o donemdeki siyasiler de Onder'in dedigihini basarmislar ki agir ambargoya ugradiklari halde. Diger ulkeler bu cift basliliktan yararlaniyor, cunku kim onlarin suyuna giderse o tarafi tutuyorlar. Simdi Yunanistan ve Guney Kibris Avrupa Birliginde odugu icin onlarin borulari daha cok otuyor ama Ingiltere Brexit yapti. Bakalim onumuzdeki gunlerde durumlar nasil olacak...
Kıbrıs'ta Yunanların terör eylemleri 1954'de başladı. 1956'dan sonra taksim konusu konuşulmaya başlamıştı zaten. Zürih ve Londra anlaşmaları ve 1960'ta Kıbrıs Cumhuriyeti kuruluncaya kadar adanın taksimi Türkiye'nin resmi teziydi.
You will only hear this from uneducated people. Same people who will say they don't like Turks probably. I personally view us as a third world country. What our ancestors did was remarkable, but that was 2000 years ago. We have absolutely nothing to show for now. By the way, I've never met anyone in person claiming they hate the Turks. Most of us have travelled there, we know we're all just people trying to get by. Their government needs to cool down though.
Omg that Greek Girl came there to defend prejudices, well I think the goal is not to defend them but only to discuss them. That's really cringy, I wonder why they selected her for this show. Well the Turkish boy remained very calm and professional I hope he lived a great life until today. Greetings from France to my Turkish friends.
As a Turk, I am glad that you think so, I think that the Greek girl came to the program not to break prejudices, but to discuss more. And it was funny that he showed the Turks as if they were bigots...
His experience was based on being proud of being a part of a Big, Conquering Nation. Her experience on a resentment(justified) and being a part of a nation that suffered. People are judging her too hard. Turkish people maybe are great but they politics are not always just. The same with USA are Indians, or people of Kingdom of Hawaii not resentfull towards Americans
@Mesgeve I do not know that. As far as I know French people hate everybody;D But this aside. Most of the people do not hate exact person but the culture the person is coming from f.e in some cultures the women and men are to be wed cause the parents said so this is so unEuropean and so disqusting that cannot be allowed in Europe. Same goes for alcohol in some cultures. Burga in the other. When people in Iraq see white European they probably does not like this person in the first place. The same goes for Japanese who is going to China. But if more time and a tact and understanding from the position of the newcomer is given this hate/distrust mostly dissapears when in conntact with cultured people of every nation, color and creed. Brutes cannot change no matter where are they coming from.
@Mesgeve Well Peace is a far away dream. We are to much connected to our animal, aggresive part to be able to completely get rid of violence. I guess one need to be focused on inside this constant iternal fight and on the other side be able to see evil in outside, in people around us. So maybe we can make the world a little bit better being aware of our and other shortcomings.
@@sevdakusunkanadnda911 yunan ve izlandlı olan öğrenciler kendi ülkemizde türklerden ve türkiyeden nefret ederiz, ona karşı dualar ederiz falan diyor türk çocukta bizim sizin ülkelerinize karşı öyle bir önyargımız yok çünkü biz rusya gibi çok daha büyük ülkelerle karşı karşıya geliyor ve gerilim yaşıyoruz(kısacası siz bizim ligimizde değilsiniz diyor)
It really looks so classy when someone bring their arguement calmly and without insulting the other side. Onder is awesome even though he was insulted.
Great conversation !! Turkish boy didnt go out boarder of respect even was forced to do. I would really like to meet him. For the Cyprus, all happened what the was said...
the filipina girl only respect the malaya girl as she is more older than her.... i just can imagine if they're on the same age and the filipina girl will be a bit sassy, it would be a clash
Fun fact, the pirates the kid from Iceland is talking about. The ones that came from Algeria and raided northern countries. They were not Turks. They were westerners. See, during the Spanish/British war, a lot of Dutch and English sailors worked for the Royal Navy as "privateers." They would pirate Spanish ships for the British. Then one day the Spain and Brittain made peace. And these pirates were kinda out of a job. So a bunch of them just started joining the Barbary Corsairs. Who were in turn privateers who worked for the Ottoman sultan. These privateers were essentially part of the Ottoman navy but had considerable freedom. E.g. Their leaders had autonomy and their own cities/port towns they got to rule over (literal pirate towns). They would raid ships that were at war with the Ottomans, and often the crew would be enslaved to row in Ottoman boats, or they'd be sold. The galley slaves would often also end up converting and joining the Barbary Corsairs and some of them even became famous captains. Anyway, so these Dutch and English pirates start joining the Corsairs, some of them convert to Islam and even change their name. Many of them would just go back to their home countries to recruit more men. Like Dutch privateers in the Barbary corsairs would often go to the Netherlands so they could hire themselves entirely Dutch crews of sailors. Many of whom, in turn, also rose in the ranks of the Corsairs. The Turkish, North African, and Middle Eastern Pirates generally wouldn't sail all the way to the northern edge of the world. This was more a thing that Dutch and British sailors did. They would visit their home country and recruit a bunch of sailors. Then, raid the norther countries and sail back to North Africa. EDIT: A "Young Turk" in English means someone who goes against the Establishment and established rules. Often used for more liberal / progressive young and ambitious people who want change. And the Greek girl saying that the rights of minorities in Turkey aren't respected is kinda hilarious. Even today, if the Turkish minority in western Thrace calls themselves Turks, they are sent to jail. I wish I was joking, but Greece denies they are Turks and demands everyone, including they themselves, call them "Greek Muslims." The "Muslim Greeks" also aren't allowed to pick their own religious representatives. So they secretly select their own religious leaders for which they then get persecuted. When 2 Greek Journalist of Turkish descend wrote an article that said they should have the right to choose their own religious leader. They were sued with if I remember correctly a decade of jail (I don't remember how the trail went). They would force Turks from their own lands, claim they had to survey the land. Then they'd give the land "protected historical" status, which meant the farmers weren't allowed to come back to their lands. Greece respecting minorities and minority rights is a joke. Esp back then. But even today, it's hilarious that an EU nation can get away with just denying an entire ethnic groups right to identify with their own ethnicity. They deny their entire existence. Turkey tried claiming Kurds were "mountain Turks" in the 1930's in an effort to assimilate them. But today, that's seen as a dark page in our history books. A 100 years later, Greece is still at it.
WOW! Thanks for clarifying. As a Turk I thought I knew my history fairly well. The level of prejudice from an Iclander didn't make sense to me. Ottomans didn't have presence there. The double standard for mistreating ethnic groups is real. Everyone has done it one way or another. The amount of lies that were told to the ANZAC about the Turks to get them to fight for Great Brittan were insane.
The greek young girl reminds me of my greek colleague now. My goodness they are identical with their attitude. I salute the young turks for being diplomatic and well mannered.
Don't blame her, it's how they are raised, both at home and state propaganda is doing overtime, even as we speak. American troops have settled on several places with military bases in greece and stirring up old wounds between these two cultures and countries to start another war, just like provoking Russia to invade Ukraine and Taiwan dispute with China. Greece's wet dream to expand (Megali Idea) isn't helping much in the process either, but kept interestingly quit in the rest of the western world.
In 1958 of course there were those ideas from Greek towards Turkish, we're talking about only 100 years from the liberation from them and the crimes and massacre against the Greek people by the Turkish conquerors. We will never forget these crimes, both my grandfathers slaughtered by Turks. And of course the original Turkish people that came from the steppes of Mongolia naked riding a horse didn't have any civilization, later they discovered the world after conquering and enslaving other countries and cultures like Persians, Egyptians and Greeks and did intermarriage with them and create the today somehow better Turkey.
@@ses4068 That's the complete bullshit propaganda that Turkey feeds its kids at schools and imbeciles like u all around the world believe. Do you know anything about the situation in Cyprus, let me tell you from first hand. I had relatives in Cyprus that the Turkish army killed and kick out of their homes. After years they returned to see what happened to their homes and uncivilized Turkish families that brought by the government from the bowels of Turkey were living there inside my relatives own home. They weren't there from the beginning, in the land of Cyprus, they brought there, promised free houses by the gov of Turkey. And the characterization of uncivilized that I used to describe the familys wasn't because I'm mean, it's because of the fact that when my family returned to their home realized that the new people that live inside, had completely destroyed for ex. their beautiful classic furniture (tables, chairs, sofas, beautiful handmade pieces) and they preferred to sit on the floor in the middle of a dirty empty house. Of course all their precious heritage jewelry were gone too. That's the truth, that's what happened and the pain of kicking u out of your own home and land and country I wish noone will experience it again. But that's who Turks were and they never punished for that. I ask my grandmother about this stories and when she talking about them she can't stop crying, because she lost also siblings and family members that refused to leave their own home.
@@trevorphilips9859 ok you are a proof of what your country’s school system is teaching you . Hate more hate and more grudge other than science and making a proper research about history lol
I died when the Greek girl finished talking about how Greek people really hate Turkish people and the Turkish guy said "We have bigger problems with bigger nations so we don't really have prejudices against Greece" lmaooo
LMAO
12:00 i really wonder how 'the most intelligent and important people on the earth' could be that much indebted and needed German's money to save some of their little rocks(they call them islands) from privatisation
when he said that, i was like ... OOOoooooH!! BURN!!! llol
@@ykscalsan7240 Funny how most Turks would gladly move to Germany to beg for a half decent job if they could.Pretty ironic don't you think ?
You make fun of Greeks for borrowing money from Germany when millions of Turks beg for all kinds of unskilled labor in Germany.
@@andreas3850 it's not funny also Germans invite Turks to come to Germany for those jobs. That's bilateral. Beyond that Turks are doing all kind of jobs in Germany. In addition to that özlem türeci and uğur șahin are Turkish(they invented covid vaccine). I also didn't make fun of them because they begged Germans. I made fun of statement of this girl who says Greeks are most intelligent and important people on the earth. Finally it can't be ironic because i have never said Turks are the most important and intelligent people on the earth
The Turkish dude has the making of a leader. He cares more about solving problems with the Greeks rather than resenting the Greeks.
His name actually means leader :)
@@jolynekujoooo Cool! 😊
Turks are born leaders. We have Gods on our side and we are the nicest and smartest people. We are also born teachers. Long live Atatürk!
@@SA-iu7xj The words you just said above are nothing more than a perfect humiliation for dear Turkish people... Pity you...
@@seckin.arslan you don't make sense
The Turkish guy is so polite and smart.I really appreciated him and proud of him
I wonder if he will retain that attitude if the girl brought up cyprus 🤣
@coci cot he can still praise him tho
@coci cotok racist
He is also a humble person too
@coci cot no dude he is really Einstein. Lol
The greek girl blurted out so much prejudice the moment she started talking, then the Turkish boy destroyed her with kindness and grace.
Prejudice? All of these are historical facts. Smh the west is so ignorant of the tragedies that Greeks have suffered. Probably because we aren't Asian/African/Hispanic and we aren't Muslim or any other non Christian religion.
Don't blame her. It's their culture as it seems and they backup their daily dose of hatred with an anthem that is equally no short of lies, hate and prejudice.
@@ses4068 that's true. In their schools, they teach Istanbul conquest as invading. Our armies fought and the winning side took the land which happened all the time in world history. Mehmet II allowed Greeks to practice their own culture, language and religion. They didn't teach these things to them and they glorify their history as if they were sent by God to that land and they never killed anyone or did any conquests. They portray themselves as the victim all the time. We had 5 wars with Greeks during Turkish independance war. We won 4 of them and lost 1. They even don't teach them those 4 wars just because they lost can you imagine that? They all know about that 1 war they won against us. We as Turks were never taught to hate Greeks at school.
Yes knk gel de bunu bizim duyarcı türklere anlat yunan duyarı kasıyolar
@@rumeysa4686 of ne in their school doğrusunu öğrenip gelsin o zaman doğru anlatsınlar
The Turkish guy is so polite and smart
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Turkey is the bestttt❣❣❣
@NUR hayırdır nur derin bi yeah çekmişsin
@NUR benide shiple
are you gay?
Turkish guy destroyed all of their racism elegantly and politely.
We are not that patient anymore bro...
@@dogukancam7450 we’re so stressed
Guns N’ Roses is amazing
@@Beyond1904 YEAHH
@@appetitefordestruction6899 my favorite song from them is paradise city and welcome to the jungle
''daha büyük ülkelerle daha büyük sorunlarımız var o yüzden ülkemizde yunanistan'a karşı benzer ön yargılar yok''
sakince kızı kudurtmuş
Sakin sakin kremsiz saplamış
Bu ayrıntıyı çok güzel yakalamışsın
he vallahi XD
Offf saplaaa
Zekası ve terbiyesi ile ezdi geçti.
The Turkish guy is so polite, kind and smart. tbh as a Azerbaijani, I feel so proud.
thx for your support mate
@@VoRMiTTi kanal adın ne aq
The same here bro. but there are a lot of people who will hate The Turkish nation. So it is a little bit disappointment, that we cannot change their thoughts. 😓
Hes polite because he has to be. the ottoman empire colonized and establshed 400 years of slaver in eastern europe and africa, and only ended 31 years prior but not before committing one more genocide, against the armenians
@@samuraikyokkan Lying is in your blood. How true is it to talk without information or documentation? Lying, slandering is the work of beings that are lower than animals.
I just saw one adult among the kids who is the Turkish boy. Only he didn’t say anything negative about any country. He was there like a diplomat who defends his country in an international congress. He was so kind and classy yet smart and well-educated.
he said something about the russians but there are no russians in the room
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@@cheatcharoninc172 even then he didnt use any bad adjective... just stated that "turkey finds russia as enemy like rest of the free world"
He gave a clear anti-communist answer tough. Those days we didn't have any problem at all with the Russians. In fact the opposite, Turks always used the Russians to gain something from the imperialists by threatening them.
We are talking about cold war years when the the world had divided two parts politically. You were either American’s side or Russians. And Turkey had strong political and militarywise or even financial relationships with America that time. So it was natural for Turkey to take Russia as a potential enemy. However, he still didn’t say anything negative about Russian people or their culture. He never took down the discussion to regular people’s level. He kept it as governments’ political discussion level.
God the Turkish dude was smooth. Polite, intelligent, logical and patient.
And he just ignored the guy from Iceland to attack the Greek girl lol. I also don't know why did they put 2 adults in the middle of a children talk.
@@manuelsilva6244 attack lmao the greek girl is obsessed with greece and hates turks the turkish lad was actually polite and smart talking
@efE GAME&AVIATION ataturki siksinler recep tayyip erdogan bizim leader
@@muratcelen1319 Sizin gibiler yüzünden hiçbir zaman istediğimiz seviyeye gelemeyeceğiz
@@muratcelen1319 Ne boş yapıyorsun ya
When the Greek girl said "Greeks didn't have the oppurtunity to study their own language," and it was had to be "secretly and in bad conditions" , I thought it is funny because of the fact that Phanar Greek Orthodox College, the oldest surviving Greek Orthodox School in Istanbul was ordered by Mehmet II to be built in 1454. It still operates to this day.
And Greek Orthodox Patriarchate is still in Istanbul since ... Forever? LOL.
@@VirtualViolence agai sophia 😂😂 only 2000 greeks exist in konstantinopolis
1 school for 5 million Greeks 😂😂😂 and that school was turkish ideology..and any thing exist in greek abc in ottoman..
@@aycasonerci6048 what the hell are you talking about? There hasn't been a Greek population in Turkey that is 5 million, not even before the population exchange of 1923. There is still-operating 3 Greek Orthodox Schools (Phanar, Zapyon, Zografeion) in Istanbul and that is enough for Greeks who wish their children to learn and study Greek. Even the Greek and Arab Orthodox people living in Antioch study in these schools. There are also 2 Greek schools in Gökçeada (Imbros). I don't know if there is any other Greek schools but there might be, you might want to check but I don't think you ever will.
@@alperuner5025 the girl is talking as if the Ottoman monuments in Greece are maintained like the most Greek monuments over here lol and don't get me started on the condition of muslims in east Greece near the border...it is not perfect here either but it is definetely not worse than there anyway I really don't like having debates like these but their self righteous attitude really annoys me
The Turkish guy was so kind and his humor and comebacks made me die of laughter.
Seems you dont know enough history. And the same for the Turkish guy whom doesnt know his own history of slavery and genocide of the ottomans, which only dissolved 31 years prior. Some people would say the turks never got the justice deserved back at them by a europe that almost lost against them, and rose to be exponentially more powerful.
@@samuraikyokkannothing Turks did is worse than anything the Europeans did.
@@samuraikyokkanbruhhh There would be no way a country with so many races could survive for centuries if the people it ruled were not happy.
@@samuraikyokkanThere used to be slavery in Ottoman Empire before Sultan Abdülmecit lawfully banned the practice altogether.
But there was never a genocide.
You’re just parroting what the coward Armenians have been lying about for years to the West.
And they famously refused to open their archives in order to conduct an unbiased historical investigation about their allegations lmao what do you make of that
@@samuraikyokkanbalık yemi yunan konustu😂
I think the icelandic guy who blamed ottomans as pillagers and barbarians definetely forgot that he is a Viking.
He told the general icelandic opinion on turks, not necessarily his opinion
@@turkishissunlanguage what a lot of bullshit)) miserable attempt to justify and defend turks, like you guys always do when disgusting moments of your history is brought up. Every goddamn nation has those moments in recent history, most of them take responsibility, and only you, The Turks™ are clean and shine, always blaming Kurds or whatever whatnot you think up. I live in Turkey since 2017, i love this country and it's people, but the cowardly way you try to justify every goddamn mistake your country did with your miserable lie attempts is just obnoxious. Adam ol oğlum, ne yaptığınızı uzun zamandır herkes biliyor, bu yalana sadece türkler inanıyor, bütün dünya nasıl yanlış olabilir ?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@turkishissunlanguage I guess because I’m terms of foreign incursions Icelandic history has been pretty uneventful. Whereas Turkey is in between 3 continents and had an empire engaged in lots of conflicts over 1000 years
@ well he is not an ottoman is he ?
the turkish guy is the smartest in the video, his knowledge is excellent
The girl from Greece impressed me
@@weiwujiang6884 she was the only one who can speak english so well!!!
@@weiwujiang6884 did she impress you with her country's hatred?
@@GeekInTime hatred feed some greeks.
@@GeekInTime Hatred against Turks was and is Greeks' only business. However we Turks approach them with respect and positive emotions like in the past.
Well, the Turkish guy destroyed her. I laugh so hard when he says ''we have bigger problems with bigger nations''.
Güzel.Türk oğlan kızı mahvetti. Oğlan "bizim büyük devletlerle büyük sorunlarımız var" dediğinde çok güldüm
I am not sure i understood well, the Greek girl just described what used to happen in Greece. She didn't say she agrees with it
@@user-lp1tn1bs6n she kept justify the opinion of "Greek people". I think there's a difference between direct the opinion as the way it is, and direct your opinion as it is the general arguement.
@@user-lp1tn1bs6n she was hysterical with her offensive behavior, stereotyping, insults and racism.
The Turkish Empire destroyed Greece. And he sat there and smugly mocked her for it. And you find that type of bullying amusing?
The Turkish guy ate and left no crumbs.
so based innit?
Timestamp???
I was drinking boba and I literally choked when he said “we have bigger problems with bigger nations” to the Greek lady
I'm choked too hahahahahah
Yes we have:))
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Like russian
And american
türküm diye demiyorum bizim eleman gerçekten çok temiz konuşuyor, ayrıca çok rahat.
Bu yaşta İngiliz ceyi bile cok akici konusuyor helal dedim
@@alisaygl5760 eğitim kalitesi işte o zamanlarda . Köy enstitüleri okullarının bir eğitimine bak şaşırırsın öyle güzel ki şimdi her şey ezber suandakiler okuduğunu anlamiyor kendi anadilinde İngilizceyi bırak.
@@lifefor31124 1958 yıl dediğin okullar kapalı bilmeden sallama burada.
@@adilomeraydn9364 bilmeden konuşma mi agshs çok cahilsin ama ben zaten 1954te kapatıldığını biliyorum ayrıca önder bey lisede bu videoda yani köy enstitüleride okumuş olabilir bu bir ornekti illa okudu demiyorum örnek veriyor ki önder bey Eskişehir lisesinde okumuş 1958 senesini geçtim benim babam memur 60 yaşında bundan 78 senesinde aldığı lise eğitimi ile benim şuan üniversitede aldığım eğitim bile eşit değil bırak 78 i bundan 20 öncesinin eğitimi bile benim üniversitemin eğitime eşit değil yani anlatmak istediğim buydu ama merak etme eğer okuduğunu anlamıyorsan bu sadece senin suçun değil 20 senede gördüğün berbat ezberci eğitimin suçu hadi.
@tavukpilavci aslında burada seni aşağılamıyorum eğitimin kötü olduğunu anlatmaya çalışıyorum ilk cümleden belli zaten ayrıca suandakiler okuduğunu anlamiyor derken beni kanıtlamış olduğun için teşekkür ederim 😂
Gözlerim doldu gerçekten. Uzun yıllar önce gencecik çocuklar böylesine akıllı, deneyim dolu bilgileri söyleşi havasında birbirleriyle konuşup tartışabiliyorlar. Ne muazzam bir durum. Önder bey umarım yaşıyorsunuzdur. Sevgi ve saygılar sunuyorum.
Hasan bey size katılıyorum. Eski insanlar medeni, kendini bilen insanlarmış. Erkekleri beyefendi.
Kadınları hanımefendi olduğu yıllarmış.
Ne kadar kültürlüler.
Şu an Amerika da yaşıyor sanırsam her ne kadar Türkiye de olmasa bile yaşadığına sevindim 😄
Ayıbediyong Hasan Bey
@@blownrwd Aa nerden aldımız bilgiyi? Herhangi bir sosyal hesabı varsa bilmek isterim.
Burada bahsettiğiniz insanlar zaten iyi ailelerden gelmiş kişiler.
Asil halka bakarsaniz ne kadar cahil cühela bir topluluk oldugunu gorebilirdiniz. Bu çogu ulke icin boyleydi. Boyle bireysel ornekler uzerinden Anadolu halki hakkinda fikir urettiğimizi sanmak saçmalik
the Turkish boy is super polite and conciliatory
As a greek , I am ashamed of that girl, typical example of brainwashing. Despite any differences on a government level (i support neither of them), turkish people are really friendly and open to greeks as they share a similar culture and way of life. Fortunately, nowdays many greeks and especially younger ones seem to realise that and letting go of their prejudices.
Greetings from Turkey komşu 🤗 ❤️There are also some people who are Turkish versions of this Greek girl especially some people from older generations. But I can assure you, you can not find a racist young Turk against Greek people. Because we believe that if we do the same mistakes like discrimantions, racism, war etc. which were done by older generations of Turkey and Greece the world will never be a better place. We will just repeat the same fucking problems and young people don't want to fight with anybody ❤️ WE JUST WANT TO HUG EACH OTHER AS GREEK AND TURKISH PEOPLE ❤️
This is really hearth warming to hear about. ❤️🇬🇷🇹🇷
You are so nice i imagine a world without racism and prejudice i really like greek people.
Respects and love from Turkey. I hope everything between Greece and Turkey will be solved with our generations. 🇬🇷🇹🇷
The politicians do this to people for their interests , they need haters… Majority of Turkish people like Greeks , we are almost same ; foods, musics, geography, emotions, sea.. unfortunately every nation has their idiots and racist people, thanks god they are minority. No need prejudice. We need peace in the world. 🇹🇷❤️🇬🇷
+If the Ottoman Empire didn't give you the freedom of religion and the freedom of keeping your civilization, I don't think you'd be able to talk this way today just because there wouldn't be any nation called Greece anymore.
-I DOn'T tHInK THiS iS a VerY EfFeCtiVe ArgUmAnT
It's because that's what they've been taught by their education system. Most Greeks geniunely believe that the only reason their ancestors could "survive 400 years of aggression" is thanks to magical, high-class, secret schools... You don't even need historical knowledge to debunk this, just use your damn common sense!!!
@WhiteHair Rules Ah yes the intolerance of turks. Lets forget the genocides commited by the ottomans in the balkans and the christian kingdoms of the east.
@@aurelian2668 Genocide? What Genocide?
@@aynura.2323 What genocide? Armenian genocides. The greeks, romanians, croatians, serbs and many more the turks didnt like.
@@aurelian2668 Dude are you high? Did you learn history from BigMac box or what? I heard lots of childish accusations about different nations but this is next level.
the greek girl embarrassed her country, the turkish guy literally ruined her with his kindness. and with his educated, mature talk.
I tell you if the girl brought up cyprus the guy would lose his mind 🤣
i mean it’s not her fault lol, she’s just a kid.
To be honest, turks really dont care about greeks that much but i know many greeks are very hateful against to turks, also scared of them as well in case a war come up one day
@@fa779 imagine not caring about the greeks so much that you have to invide cyprus LOL 🤣
@@carl4243 large Turkish population is living there. Also Cyprus was unlawfully occupied by the British, it was ottoman colony before.
To summarize it rightfully belong to Turkey.
Önder. Sen mükemmel bir detaysın. 🌸 Yıllar önce adeta Türkiye ve Türkler adına böylesi ağır nefret söylemlerinde bulunan insanlara karşı böylesine muazzam bir tavırla savunduğun halkın seninle gurur duyuyor. Türkler tüm dünyaya medeniyeti öğretmeye devam ediyor. Güzel ülkemin asil insanları. Her birinize selam olsun❤️ Varlığım o eşsiz varlığınıza armağan olsun.
Turkish young man. You spoke like a philosopher King.
Umarım Önder Güler hâlâ hayattadır. Saldırgan ve küstah Yunan kızının yönelttiği sorulara karşılık çok zekice ve mantıklıca cevablar verdi. Seni yürekten kutluyorum Önder Amca!
o zamankiler biliyordu işi,şimdikler kendi ülkesindekilere bile bi cümle kurmaktan acizler
@@XavierXienne aynen öyle bi iq düşüşü olmuş
@harder daddy kız xd
genç önder gülere aşık olmak lol
Vay be 1958 de Bile yunanin…… koymus kibarca ve akilli cevaplarla
Tebrikler dedecim
I like how the Turkish boy is so classy and educated at such a young age. He did a good job handling the insults. Which is more than I can say for the ignorant Greek girl, she was so disrespectful like wtf.
As the old proverb says 'The dogs bark, but the caravan goes on.
Greetings from Azerbaijan.
"İt ürür kervan yürür" :)
Greetings to Azerbaijan
@@ulkuasasoglu2896 Azerbaycanda da var bu atalar sözü:)Atalarımız ne güzel özetlemişler
@@sumire9462 atalarimiz ayni oguz boyundaniz azerbeycan Ile turkiye hem kulturel hem tarihi baglarla birbirlerine simsiki kenetlenmis iki kardeștir
Her zamanla bizimle olmanız çok güzel, teşekkürler :)
@the world Almost every nation has this proverb
Wow, this was so fascinating. All of these kids were so intelligent and articulate. And even though the topics were divisive, they were so calm and respectful. And as aTurkish Australian, I must say the Turkish boy was a delight.
Ahaha🥴🥴😌😌 Got your joke, lol 😂🤪
,,Avustralyalı Türk,,. Türk heryerde Türkdür. Nerede ve nasıl yaşarsan yaşa Türksündür. Avustralyada yaşaman, Sizi Avustralyalı yapmaz. 45 Yıldan fazla Almanyada yaşadım (Çocukluğumdan beri) hiçbirzaman kendimi ,,Almanyalı Türk,, olarak tanımlamadım. Ve uzun zamandır Amerikada yaşıyorum. Burada da değişen birşey yok ,,Amerikalı Türk,, değil.!! Türk'üm.
Who came here from the first prejudice video? (The one with Raul Conteras) all of the representatives there were so polite and humble, they look like the kind of ppl who'd go out and be friends after the debate
Yeah it is
Same here now😅
Same here
Same here😂
Same here
Salamat po sa mga nice comments, lola ko po yang filipina. ❤❤❤
Fr? Kumusta na po lola niyo?
Wow! buhay pa lola mo? nakakaproud naman nanunuod kmi ni mama tinanong kung asan nadaw yung filipina na un tas buti ngcomment ka! 🙂❤️
Wow. Kamusta ba po sya now?
Your Lola is so Amazing. 😊😊😊
Kamusta na po siya?
It's funny how the Greeks considered themselves so superior. At that time, all countries were ruled by a monarchy, it is wrong for the Greek girl to criticize without taking this into account. This means that even if another country occupied it, the same results would be experienced. It is quite normal for every country to have a desire to expand its territory. We all know the cruelty and barbarism they tried to inflict on the Turks when the Greeks rose up and occupied the shores of Izmir. The Greeks failed to do this, just like other countries. For this reason, everyone has a grudge against the Turks.
I was looking for this comment
It was the liberation of greeks from the turks on mainland anatolia of course they won't be happy that they lost
True
Lilith, the Greeks even were ruled by a Bavarian king. Greece is too weak to stay in the EU..
@@john8036 So we can liberate the Turks in Greece by occupying your country. Can I justify that?
The wonderful answers of the Turkish guy astonished me. I had so much fun listening to him. He had a very easy and polite manner of speaking, a true Istanbul gentleman
A senseless racism was committed against the Turks. Although we Serbs have had many wars, the Turks are brave, fearless good fighters. And they have a civilization of five thousand years, from the Korean peninsula to Hungary.
3 months ago…It has been 3 months since I first wrote it and I continue to research. I must say for sure that when I read about Kemal's life, I was fascinated by him.It is an honor to have a great commander and a great diplomat master leader like Mustafa Kemal.I have studied the steps of her whole life, I really believe that she has a special mission as if she was sent to the world to save all the Turks.
I agree with you. Yes, we Turks are warriors. Like many other nations, but we must not forget that it is not our genetics that make us the way we are. What drives us to this is; with the places we live in, the geography, our neighbors and many more external factors.
Thanks for the kind words 🇹🇷♥️🇷🇸 you are educated and look at things from a logical perspective. Sadly many people assume all the worst about us while knowing absolutely nothing about either our culture or history besides simple propaganda. This is fed by governments, it's always easy to give others the blame... We have to simply not allow that. It doesn't help our relations but also not our development. Good day!
Thank you !
svaka cast brate👏🏻
never have i seen in my life a serbian talk good of turks. Looks like we are progressing after all
5:42 "and no filipino would be glad to be called chinese"
this statement did not age.
Agree
Koreans tho
So true
Chinito chinita
That's the phrase they say dating back in 1950's and not her own words. I repeat. Not her own words
The Turkish boy is a result of progressive and secular Turkish education created by Ataturk.
No this has nothing to do with 'progressive' and 'secular', which are western ideals. Greece was also secular, but look at the greek girl.
@@chraman169 greece have never been secular, they're fanatic orthodox christians as always and this is written in their constitution as well
Peki Atatürk hangi eğitim sisteminin sonucu 🙂
@@phoebebuffay8573 Yet they had ab openly atbeist and communist prime minister, something unthinkable even in 1930s Turkey
@@hamzaalix Aynen
First of all, greetings from Cyprus, I am also a Turkish Cypriot, but I congratulate Önder not because I am Turkish, but because he gave very good answers to his Greek girl, he is really comfortable and very professional
The greek girl is probably of Turkish descent and descendant of those Turks who were translocated to Greece due to their Orthodox Christian faith in the 1920s treaty between Turkey and Greece. Maybe that's partly what drove her antipathy towards Turks as a collective judging from her tone. You'll find that when someone does not fully fit into a group of people he or she becomes more aggressive. Maybe that's her way of proving her loyalty to the Greeks.
@@williamwallace-m4v i think youre refering to the karamanlidika who were turkish speaking greeks
@@coloneltushfinger69420 there were hundreds of thousands of Christian Turks. They even undeniably Turkic. I think these people should be informed that they aren’t Greek
The Turkish kid was raised by good people. I wish more people were like him.
Edit: Bruh god forbid you compliment someone on TH-cam comment section or have an opinion.
The boy Raised at the age of Atatürk. For last 20 years we have big problems because of our side of religion people. I hope one Day We'll solve
@Abdullah Bican xD
@Abdullah Bican çok alakası var dostum çocuklar hayallerle meşgul olurken gerçekleri kaçırıyor
@Abdullah Bican ilkelliği ve tekdüzeliği savunan senin kafandakiler ilk-orta hatta lise çağındaki, bu konularda mukayese etme becerisi iyi olmayan çocuklara "din" adı altında sadece islam eğitimi verip herkesi kendi düşündüğü gibi düşünmeye iten saçma sistemden bahsediyorum
@Abdullah Bican hahahah tam da düşündüğüm kafadasın hemen hakaret etmeye başlamışsın, aboneliklerine bakınca da kafanın içini görebiliyorum sen şeyhlerine müritlik yapıp etek öpmeye devam et teknoloji senin neyine biatçı :D
i like it Turkish boy he speaks more clear about fixing problem
Thanks bro🥰
@@tahakgeyik kedi
Ahhh yes i still think of turkish ice cream man when it comes to this
@@Founderschannel123 As a turkish fuck jesus
@@xxxxxx-rg6qr yeah whatever muslim woman
Atatürk ‘ün cumhuriyeti böyle gençler yetiştirirdi. Önder ağabey..
Yanlış anlamayın ama evet eğitimin anasını sildiler
Bu Atatürk'ün değil A.menderes zamanına denk geliyor ve menderes zamanında Türkiye en refahlı zamanını yaşadı ekonomi'de 12. Olduk Dünya'da sonra adamı astılar
@@zeitgeistizsser oyle birşey olmadı 1950 de başa geçti 1954 kadar marshal yardımları felan filan dışarıdan gelen paralar ile iyi oldu , sonraki 6 sene çok kötüydü ekonomi ve dikdalık vardı , asılması hataydı bugunki gibi kahraman olamazdı .
@@p0kem0nu amerikan yardımını o zaman alan 16 ülke vardı ve ayrıca Amerika Marshall dışında bazı ülkelerede yardım etti ama mesele o değildi menderes parayı iyi kullandı ve sonra Türkiye'de gereksiz yere bir darbe oldu ve menderes iktidarıda emekleride boşa gitti sonraki zaten emeklerin mahvolduğu 6 yıl
@@zeitgeistizsser İyi mi kullandı? Çok komiksin aldığı yardımlarla neler yapmış gidip bir araştır?
Türküm diye demiyorum ama Türk çocuk bizi çok güzel temsil etmiş. Nazik, saygılı, kibar ve asil... Gerçekten yunan olsam yunan kızın söyledikleri için utanırdım bence kendini çok küçük düşürdü
You gotta understand her that's 400 years of slavery
Bulgaria was even worse 500 years of ottoman occupation.
You need to pay us reparations for at least 7 generations and return the stolen lands .
@@Anticommunism99 yok.
@@emre_iris what ? But Africans are now asking for reparations from Americans so we got it much worse in our lands what will Turkey do to make it right ?
@@emre_iris Really asking that question are you turk ??
First they tried to convert us to islam didn't succeed, then tried by force killing thousands of innocent Bulgarians ,raping women in every village, stealing the youngest son and taking him to the army ,so later he can kill his own family if necessary. From 1396 when the Last Bulgarian Tsardom of Vidin fell to 1878 when we liberated from Ottoman occupation that's 500 years in which ottomans didn't built any infrastructure, in that time Western Europe was blooming with the Renesance and we lived in primitive conditions . To this day not a single Turkish president or a leader came to our country and to apologise for what his country did to us . God is watching and I know that someday Ottomans now Turkey will pay a huge price for what they did .
America gave nothing to Africans so Turkey will do the same@@Anticommunism99
This Turkish guy is so cool and well-educated. I am impressed.
Kong Neko
I lived in their country for 8 years. All Turks are such kind and knowledgeable people. They are also generous and helpful!
Do you wanna drink a coffee?😉
@@Ardalule lan njhgfcdfrtg
he is fake
@@v1rusAnon Like your dad
It’s a great example to see how the Greek discriminates the most while the Turk smiles and ignores the ignorance and rudeness of others.
Definitely
@Mariana Soarez That's so accurate. When my grandma tells something bad about Greeks, i don't understand why i should hate them. But thanks to western propaganda i was always thinking Arabs have black skin and all of them wears black hijab.
I am a Turk and most of the new generation think the same way, we both suffer from the actions of our current stupid governments but we people are no different than each other. The hate is left in the past and within the minds of those who choose to live in the past.
@easter worshipper make greece
Ottoman again
@@Raven_Black_252 Oh right, our goverment is stupid but theirs is awesome. How nice. The stupid one is the so called "new generation" who growt with playing video games that causes of their brain damage. What next? Giving of northern part of Cyprus. I´m not surprise if that new generation says "yes."
It wasn’t Turkish occupation, The Ottoman Empire was ruling half of Europe and some parts of North Africa. They never banned their language or religion. It was an empire just like the British empire or the German empire or the Russian one. Why so much racism towards Ottoman Empire?
Muslims and non-Muslims had different taxes.
@@HitroLis No. Same 2.5% Tax rate, they just had different names. How much do muslims now pay in christian countries? About 10-20 times that
Believe me nothing changes with the time 😍 Still same shit in 2021, tired of being a turk because of this people,,, so much racism and we dont know why lmaoo
@@HitroLis Muslims for example like Crimean Tatars had also to pay taxes, that’s why they were after slaves in East Europe, to be able to pay the taxes. Jewish people payed less taxes than any other ethnic or religious groups. Сердечно 😊😘🤗
@@Bolshoytsheburek , in the Ottoman empire? Are you sure about your sources of information? Check them again.
Turkish boy (Önder Güler) was so smart, elegant and pretty polite. He spoke perfectly and did not get irritated at all, what a wise boy he was at that age. Very proud of him representing us Turkish people excellently. 💓❤
"we got bigger problems with bigger nations so we don't really have prejudices against greece"
@easter worshipper they aren’t Indians, they are indigenous, learn the difference
Turkey doesn't care about Greece, get it. We have no hostility towards Greece. They fight with themselves, we look at them and laugh. I feel sorry for Greece. what a pity. Turks don't care about you, Greeks, understand this. How well turkish youth said it;
@easter worshipper Poor gayreek Don't be so aggressive, you don't need to prove yourself. You need to get rid of the inferiority complex.
@easter worshipper you are 10 years old kid who thinks ı am patriotic :D nobody care you . press replay and enjoy it
@@selcanfrat2116 im not sure xD they still trying to get the Aegean sea
As a Greek person we do not claim her she is a disgrace plain and simple. I love Turkey and a very close friend of mine is turkish. I feel embarrassed and I apologize .
It's alright there is no need to apologise, we know that she is just an exeption and that not all Greeks are like that.She was most likely influenced by her parents, it doesn't justify her actions but still.I and other Turks appreciate your kind words.
@Turk But Anatolian I'm sorry to hear that. Some people just cannot leave the past behind I guess.
So , ı think no problem bro
You don't have to. None of them spoked for any country, they spoked for their own opinion. Spread love... Big hugs to you. This is the way Önder Güler preferred in my opinion.
I can’t believe how turks in the comments are saying thats fine, literally %90 of the greeks i have met were racist against turks
"we're more civilized people" civilized people don't go around saying they're civilized lol.
Specially a civilized one
Damn
Tama...
I didn't like the girl's remarks from Malaya.
And civilized people don't take territories that don't belong to them.
I had a good giggle when Björn seemed visibly scared when the interviewer told him there was a Turk coming.
An opinion whose argument is weak is quite low. The Turks are even stronger than you think.Don't let the current situation mislead you, Turkish youth have never lost their power and love of country, And no Turk holds a grudge against foreign countries . Turkish people is peaceful
Yes
“Nervous nizam I cedit sweating”
You know our leader Atatürk. Atatürk told us, "Peace at home, peace in the world"
I think the girl from Malaya felt she was being attacked. That smile was a defense mechanism. The Icelandic and Thai participants were just chillin'. The Filipina girl killed it and spoke very straightforward with no filters. Truthful and pure facts!!!
Filipinos are known to be very polite, but when attacked, we get very both blunt and sharp
Wrong! Wrong Wrong you idiot!
@@wrongshirts7375 lol ur idiot too..
@@wrongshirts7375 you really love to but in with this kind of drama😆. Want to get mentioned everytime, bet your notifs
were floodin with replies, g-luck
@@wrongshirts7375 exactly the malaya girl’s response / defense mechanism
I know someone who has the same "humor" as that Malaya lady. Annoying and defensive. Good job Ms Philippines for calmly handling insults she spewed. Level headed and very mature of Ms Philippines.
She was so arrogant that I feel she looked down all the people in that certain room. Mainly maybe because she was rich and everything that she could not relate and thinks she is superior but it tells us everything about her environment and how she was raised the way she is. It's saddening, she has such a rude elitist attitude.
@@hiraikyoto7064 I couldn't agree more. She wasn't subtle about it.
also let's not forget iceland guy, standing closest to malaya girl yet he kept a straight face, didn't laught at malaya girl's stupidity and hypocrisy
also kudos for the rest of them for being smart, respectful and giving everyone more than enough time to speak unlike one of them who interrupted the others just to say something racist
Her interjections and nonverbal cues speak prejudice, ignorance and rudeness. She just proved the different bad impressions on her people.
she was prejudiced towards the less fortunate (the non educated).
That Turkish man has much better grammer, prononciation and intonation compared to many other Turkish millenials(or middle aged men-women) with all the technological facilities of today(TH-cam, bisuu, Google translate, etc…). Impressive.
Imagine being the 81-year old Malayan grandma watching yourself on TH-cam, reading the hate comments about the young version of yourself. That must suck.
pity
Well from the video alone.........she deserved it🤷🏻♂️
I think Ms. Philippines already ripped her apart backstage when they were replaced with other exchange students.
Well, she must've earned years of wisdom to change her mindset or maybe she stayed stubborn.
@@kc0838 I sure hope it's the first one XD
It seems that the Turkish kid grew up with Atatürk's philosophy "peace in home peace in the world". We see a Turkish child raised with love and a Greek child raised with hatred. I hope something has changed.
"Gençler cesaretimizi takviye ve idame eden sizlersiniz. Siz, almakta olduğunuz terbiye ve irfan ile insanlık ve medeniyetin, vatan sevgisinin, fikir hürriyetinin en kıymetli timsali olacaksınız. Yükselen yeni nesil, istikbal sizsiniz. Cumhuriyeti biz kurduk, onu yükseltecek ve yaşatacak sizsiniz."
Well look at the two countries now and then tell me
It has changed. To be honest I am Greek and I don’t know anyone who hates Turk people. We don’t really care to be honest. It’s the government that we don’t like and the history of pain they have caused to our people.
However I would have no problem to have a Turk friend. Really.
@@ellimars7489 As a turk, We dont care as well this situation. So many turkish people doesent finds a problem between greek people and us. Because we sharing the same culture. Ottoman empire never said itself the 'Turkic Empire'. Ottoman emperors said 'Rumi' himself. Rumi means roman. Ottoman empire is a continue of byzantine for ottoman elites. In this way, ottoman empire never does specially nationalistic behaviors the other races. We turkish people are already know this. But some of the balkan people cannot understand this like arabs. We are not so different peoples with greeks. Only we are muslim but 90 percent of people are secular and nobody matters the religion. So we doesent matter the this absurd nationalistic shit. I wish a lot of love. 2 States 1 Culture 🇹🇷🇬🇷
@@ellimars7489 there are racists and xenophobes everywhere. That's sad but true
The Greek girl said that they had suffered a lot under Turkish rule and their thoughts of independence blossomed under this pressure. The next moment she defended strongly that 120000 Turkish people should remain under Greek rule in Cyprus. What a double standard!!
Then it’s simple Greek people and government recognition to the Turk, people’s autonomy, and Turkey return the land of Byzantium Empire to the Greeks
@@HJS2000 lmao
@@HJS2000 no, we called dibs on the lands.
@@HJS2000 they don't give İstanbull, we take. İf they have brave come on
@@HJS2000 No, when we were defeated in a war against the British in Cyprus, which was Turkish territory for more than 300 years from 1571, only the administration authority passed to the British, but the land will still belong to us. After this agreement, Cyprus was annexed by the British and Greeks began to live in the region. However, for many years, the majority of people there were Turks. The Greeks living there wanted to unite with Greece and by forming an uprising they called ENOSIS, they murdered the Turks in the region in a planned way in order to dominate the entire Cyprus lands. For years, they have massacred the people they lived on the same land in peace, their neighbors, with internal turmoil and with the support of weapons they received from other countries such as England and Greece. Their aim is to have full control of the Cyprus lands and to want to unite with Greece. This non-war massacre is considered a regional genocide and is inhumane. After this incident, the whole world stood up.
Im half greece half turkish im proud to be turkish. This turkish guy is so smart and we proud of him
Also my grand grand mother is greek but i am also proud to be turkish ; )
You're not half Greek. You're only Turk. I'm sorry. We weren't mixing with the Turks for various reasons.
@@HadeS-Gyneco-Phobia very interesting can you let us know which various reasons?
@@HadeS-Gyneco-PhobiaI know many greek-Turkish couple what are you talking about?
@@HadeS-Gyneco-Phobia broo you’re seriously hurt why to bother writing a saga here in yt:D I personally know a girl who married a greek guy,they met in uni.Idk why are you so upset about this.And I don’t agree with you about Turks and Greeks are being polar opposite even tho you’re Christian and we’re Muslim our foods culture and family structure is so similar
I find the malaya girl so arrogant while the Philippines speak nicely, respectful and chill.
Hhaha true
still europeans have no idea who is filipino before colonialism
So true.
True until this day.
Yep! Coz she has a Chinese blood not a pure malaya. She's like a bully though
I find it pretty ironic that the delegate from a country founded by Vikings grew up afraid that Turkish pirates would come sack his town and kidnap him.
Now that you mention it...
@@hu_man1 go on?
@@icantlivewithoutnesquik2032 i don't remember lol
But that really happened in the past (17th century)
Barbary Pirates were hardcore
I just can tell the malayan girl is too proud of herself being chinese and that she is more "civilized". It was an passive-agressive act like what the chinese are doing in the west philippine seas. She is spewing too much racism.
Well said, I coudn't agree more.
Meanwhile Chinese tourists in the 21st century be like...
And then came the Wuhan Virus. So much for their "arrogance" and self entitlement. 👏
@@jonathanbalagtas848 hey dont go there, go attack her for being rude & arrogant but its kinda racist for u to say stuff abt the virus no one wants that, literally asians r struggling w/ hate crimes abt the virus including filos.
@@taejinbin12 everything ROOTS somewhere.
I am proud of you, noble Turkish son.
The Turkish boy spoke well as the Iceland.
Modern türkiye dedi ya. Orada bi içim gitti bide şimdi ki türkiyeye bak
Aynen ya
Kusura bakma ne varmış halimizde heryer yol köprü camii dolu betonlaşma çoğalıyor işte(!)
@MattC Keşke öyle olsa keşke düzelsek bende hala umutluyum bizden düzeltebiliriz gençlik bu durumu kurtarabilir ama bi insan neden değer verilmediği bir yerde yaşamayı ve geliştirmeyi düşünsün diyede aklıma gelmiyor değil ama en azından bizden sonraki nesil daha mutlu ve huzurlu yaşamasını istiyorsak biraz dişimizi sıkmamız gerekiyor tıpki çanakkaledeki sakaryadaki ve bir çok yerdeki askerlerimizin bizim için yaptığı gibi
bak şu 14 yaşımdaki halimle bana ülke yönetimi verseler yemin ediyorum daha iyi yönetirim bu ne ya her gün üzülüp duruyorum yeter artık
evet yiyecek yemeğimiz yok usa nın boktan süt tozlarını içiyoruz.
bayiler araba kaynıyor ama alamıyoruz.
en son model cep telefonları çıkıyor uzaktan izliyoruz.
ilaç ve hastane mi o da ne? hastalandığımız an mıçtık.
savunma mavunma zaten yok. neyse abd bize kullanıp fırlatıp bir kenara attığı külüstürleri verecek ne yapalım hiç yoktan iyidir.
ulaşım falan da yok zaten geç onu.
zaten biz hiç bir şey yapamayız, biz kimiz ki? haddimizi bileceğiz haddimizi!
abd yakında çin e savaş açarsa alakamız olmasa bile sömürge olduğumuz için mecburen bizi de götürecek ama ne yapalım vatan sağ olsun deriz.
If "to eat like a Turk" is used as an insult in Greece, then they know absolutely nothing about us. Do you know how much preparation goes to having a meal in a Turkish home? All of us take our shoes off (some switch to indoor shoes or slippers) right before we step in. Stereotypical Turkish mothers, grandmas and teyzes beat your ass if you don't wash your hands before a meal. Our elders always advise us to say "Bismillah" before taking a bite which is the Muslim way of thanking God. Finally, we have our own saying in Turkish "Ellerinize sağlık!" which means "May health come to your hands!", we use it to thank the cooks for our meal. "May good health come to your hands that have prepared us this meal". I find it funny how people who hate us have come up with these super unrealistic ways to feed their own ego, when they know nothing about how much Turkish culture values hygiene and cuisine.
no one says that
I'm a Kurd and my aunt uses ''Ermeni'' as a swearword sometimes. Very unfortunate that people still use ethnicities as swearwords in this age...
@@yourbodyis75waterandimthir44 its not just for turkish, you can see the racism in every language. we tried to fix our language and one day we will do.
@@shinkikomori7386 i do? Be kind to your cook...
Im greek and I've never heard that but we do say "he became a turk" if someone gets really angry
I admire how eloquently they spoke with each other; they had the ability to talk about a, sort of, contentious subject calmly. I don’t suppose the majority of children these days can hold an important conversation as such together.
Ok, so here's my research: The Filipina girl, Patsy Pagaduan, is the ate of the activist Carol Araullo. So pamangkin nya si Atom. She became a feminist and a professor at Purdue University. Apparently she's still alive.
@@lemonade7512 maybe in her 70s? Carol Araullo is in her 60s.
NPA blood pala
@@Griemmy wag ka dito, troll. Mataas na lebel na ng usapan dito pinapababa mo.
Wow
Any information about what is she doing now?
The Greek woman made an embarrassing speech for her country, I'm sure other Greeks won't join her, by the way, thank you to the Turkish young man for keeping his calm
After turks invade cyprus? Lol no greeks would side with her.
@@carl4243 Turks live in Cyprus, we will not leave the Turks who live there to you.
It depends,back in those days maybe things were different
This altitude was widespread between the countries that were under long Ottoman rule.
@@carl4243 What they teach you at school??
@@tarihcipenceresi9330 just leave how simple is that. Not like turks doesn't have space in their land. Hell you don't even want to free kurdish lands because of how greedy you are with your lands.
I am Turkish cypriot and ım proud of that Turkish boy. 🇹🇷
Kim bilebilirdi ki ada ikiye bölünmeden önce ada ikiye bölünmeli demiş
Wow. They touched on both the Cyprus situation and the Pakistan one. And within 20 years of this discussion Cyprus wasn't part of Greece but unofficially partitioned pretty much as the Turkish boy suggested. And Pakistan was in fact divided from Bangladesh and didn't stay a single nation as the Greek girl mentioned it to be.
Philippines: A-
Malaya: and i took that personally.
low class brat
Lol, sabah is Pinoy hehe
@@ourhourore420 who
@@violawillows8299 They 'might' be reffering to the Malaya girl..
@@alezacrespublik6655 stfu
12:28 "We got bigger problems with bigger nations, so we don't have the same kind of prejudices against Greeks"
Wow that sounds like a finishing punch line from a 80's action movie 👏👏👏
Why would they hve any prejudice against greeks anyways? it wasn’t the greeks who invaded their land and killed people. Its like you say french people should hate black people 😂 it’s the black people who dont like the french bc they were occupiers and enslaved them. Makes no logic
@@cheesaineko Greeks invaded Turkish and and killed Turkish people several times. Read some history. There is many countries with black populations which are official language is French by the way.
@@barispeace Greeks didnt invade any Turkish lmao. you should learn some history. go and see where turks come from and then tell me if ever greeks went there 😂
@@cheesaineko No they have invaded and they have kicked out by Turkish Army led by Atatürk. That is called Turkish War of Independence. Also the fact that is everyone in this planet comes from somewhere. Humans are not like mushrooms or plants.You should learn some basic human history.
@@barispeace they have “invaded” bc it was the agreement during the world war bc the ottoman empire then collapsed. I do know history :) Greeks did wrong things too they shouldn’t have gone too deep into turkey in lands where the agreement didn’t work but still turks ottomans call them whatever you want did way worse things to greeks
She openly stated that the Greek people hated the Turks,
and after
She said that they can grant humanitarian rights to the Turks in Cyprus. :D
Hah how two faced she was :-)
Would you love your oppressor? Who is your oppressor and why do you love them?
😂🤣😂🤣
Typical Greek logic 😂
Very logical. She is stressed because it was the Greeks that suffered from the Turks and not vice versa. Do not equalize the victim and the invader.
17:40 dan sonra Türk gencin konuştukları gerçekte gerçekleşti ve şuanda Kıbrıs'ın kuzeyi'nde bir Türk devleti var
The Malaya Girl represents the mindset of Chinese settlers to other countries 50 years ago.
Old Chinese settlers in PH, including my grand father, think they are smarter because they have businesses without considering that the Filipino culture does not surround around money and most Chinese that time were successful because they can trade with Chinese (because they can speak the language and there were cheap things from China even before then) and they did and still do not have problem employing other people and treating/paying them badly. Definitely, It is not a matter of intellect.
As part Filipino Chinese, I see this kind of attitude among elders Chinese migrant to Philippines, even until now. The 2nd or 3rd generations Chinese now who understands Filipino culture and adopt the ways, are not as hard @sses. I actually stopped doing business with old Chinese people because I can't accept the business mindset and tight culture that they have that put more emphasis on money rather than fair treatment of human beings. It just didn't feel right as 3rd generation Filipino-half Chinese who is more Filipino.
I think around that time of their debate, Philippines were more advance than most of our neighbors. We had a good amount of very educated people, and to be fair, I think compared to traditional Chinese, I think Filipinos at this time were more civilized than most of our neighbors.
It was ironic that she shaded the Filipina kid and then said they are civilized. During this debate, the Filipina kid was more civilized and respectful. She really represented the Filipino way.
Filipinos in the south are more related to indigenous Malaysians. So if she insulted Filipinos, she insulted the indigenous Malaysians, as well.
Now I understand why in Malaysia, they have to label "Malaysian Chinese" the Malaysian Chinese in their passports because the Malaysian Chinese themselves define themselves as superior that ofc the real owners of the land will not be happy about. I hope the new generations right now will change it.
Good to know that!!! Bless you and ypur businesses!!!
Wwow really malaysian chinese separate them.from.malaysian?
@@renzasss4070 from other comments above, even malaysians (actual natives and not imigrants) do not claim the malaysians chinese and distance themselves from them since the malaysain chinese would consider themselves more chinese anyway and follow cultures and beliefs of their chinese roots. Such as what the girl displayed here who is clearly more chinese than malaysian, showing how she could react in such a way (ofcourse as she is also chinese) whereas pure malaysian would understand what the filipina is trying to say about prejudice.
@@shinryouzen so they are like the same as filipino chinese they always seperate themselves with a native filipino
Very true and informative!
We need a today version of this show! It’s great dialogue!
It wouldn't be allowed now. Everyone would be angry and offended.
@@darlingdim9656 yeah nowadays sometime people cant accept else's opinion
It will start another ww😂
fyi, if you're looking for similar shows, maybe you can check out the Chinese shows 'Informal Talks' or 'A Bright World' or the Korean show 'Non-Summit' where representatives from different countries share opinions on various topics.
Yeahh
He says "atrocious savages" for Turks but... It's very interesting for someone of Viking lineage said that.🤔
Precious video and honest conversation. Reflecting the people back then is more open-minded to talk about it, and yet remain respect to each other, with laughter
Türk çocuk İngilizceyi ne kadar akıcı konuşuyor 1958 de ne filmler var, ne internet, ne TH-cam. Çok iyi . Gerçekten çok iyi
Bizim one minute diyen bir evren liderimiz var hatırlatırım😏
Kanka çok büyük ihtimalle bilinçli varlıklı bi ailenin çocuğudur ya da zeki olduğundan burs alıp yurt dışında biraz vakit geçirmiştir.
Robert Kolej ya da o tarz bir okulda öğrencidir.
@@ersoy9641 Ya o kadar haklısın ki(!) zaten bütün siyasetçiler bülbül gibi şakıyorlardı. Hepsinin sanki ana dili ingilizce
@@aselalsebeni5325 Kendisine sorsan İngilizce bilmiyordur.
The topic is about prejudice and the Malaysian girl was a demonstration of someone who is prejudice to someone's opinion
Malayan*
"Malaysia" was only achieved in 1963 when we join the peninsular with Sabah and Sarawak (known as East Malaysia).
@@lulu9421 so was she representing the Chinese then? Because I was surprised she was speaking ill and critical of the Malays when she herself, as I had thought, was also from Malayan and I thought she was referring to her own people.
@@rabbitazteca23 I'm not sure if you've seen my other comments I've pasted all over this comment section, but here's something to consider why we Malaysians don't claim her.
This debate took place in 1958, which is a year after Malaya achieved independence in 1957. Before independence, we live in RACIAL SEGREGATION under the British power. This means little to no exposure to each other's races within Malaya (Chinese, Malay, Indians all lived separately by regulation). Her parents or grandparents might also be migrated straight from China and were not true born Malayans. This could lead to the possibility of her being raised with China values and principles, hence her rather bias viewpoints. We don't claim her.
Today, Malaysian Chinese wouldn't wanna associate themselves as China Chinese, we are Malaysian Chinese and want nothing to do with China. If we are attacked by foreigners, we will fight and protect the whole of Malaysia, not just our own race. That's the difference because recent generations are raised by true Malaysian-born parents. Independence gave us freedom to mix with each other's races, don't be surprised if we Chinese and Indians have a huge percentage of Malay in our blood. It's part of our history, we've been through thick and thin together. We are the real Malaysians, not her.
Hope it's understandable. Year and events are important to one's representation and attitude here.
@@lulu9421 ohh that really makes sense. Thank you for this really informative insight.
@@lulu9421 Good to know that you also despise the Malayan girl
I dont know what on this Greek girl but I'm sure real civilized people just don't go around and say they're the most intelligent and civilized people on earth.
Ps. Onder you're a great guy
Lol
As a greek I agree, I can't stand her either
she said its a belief in Greece tho???? not that she also holds that belief
i think she meant that this is the prejudice in Greece, not her opinion
@@christi3 Even if that was the case, which I think is not, since she literally said 'We thought we were better than the Turks.', It wouldn't change the fact that she thought of her kin as superior with the way she brought up the 'asking people with impolite behavior if they are a Turk' thing. And all her other statements as well. That doesn't justify anything.
18:50 The Great Greek Girl was talking about defending Cyprus against Russia and was proud of gaining independence from Turkey, but in 1974 the Turks had the last word and now the island is divided into 2 parts. Years later, Great Greek girls arguments once again succumbed to the well vision Turkish man
I am really amazed by the kindness of the Turkish boy. He had the most rational and least toxic nationalist argumentations.
Vikings: Destroys Europe
Turkey has joined the game
Vikings: Pirates!!
HAUAHAUAJAHAHAUAHAHHAHA it was good
love this xDDD
guess what the captain/pirate who was responsible for Tyrkjaránið is a Dutchman Jan Janszoon van Haarlem who converted to Islam and took the name of Murad Reis :)
++++++
world's best detection
The Turkish dude was the best speaker in the group
Exactly
He's so mature and polite.
Chinese and Greek kids: UBER RACISM
Icelandic kid: Fish stories and trying to be neutral
Turkish kid: Elegantly roasting all the racist kids 🗿
Fun fact, that Malaya is now Malaysia,
Not so fun fact, that Chinese girl from Malaya is how the Chinese in Malaysia still are, racists towards the local ethnic Malay people.
as a turkish teen i am so sorry to disagree with this common. i dont have any personal beef to any race, but people at my age in Türkiye is pretty racist- a ton of my classmates think that is is fun to tease with races, ecpecially Greeks.
@@We_Want_It_Alltrue. chinese in southeast asia are the most racist and self cantered people.
I would say that the ChineseMalaysian was elitist but not racist... the Phillipino Girl was extremely biased against Chinese, basically nothing changed in 66 years.
@@bonaudi Malay are more elitist because we are the majority here, Chinese in Malaysia are still racist bastard, what the Filipino girl said about the Chinese is true, Chinese always make problems where there go and stay
The girl from Malaya said more civilized towards Japanese. I interpreted that as scheming and full of mind games. She always emphasize on uneducated, civilized, etc.. But, prejudices are prejudices. The Philippines was straightforward.
Even now in 2021, looking at the comments section i can see the hatred of some Greeks towards Turks. As a Turk, growing up, i was never taught to hate Greeks for the conflicts happened in the past (and happening all the time). But this young lady clearly hates the whole nation and this makes me really sad to see that the prejudice is horrible and racism and hatred are even more disgusting than that. As Mr. Onder said; we have bigger problems with bigger nations still due to super sensitive circumstances around our borders. As a Turk, even after i read about the horrible things done to Turkish women, children and men in Cyprus, or before the Cyprus conflict, I don’t hate Greek people nor have prejudice towards them. I am educated enough to know that mistakes or actions of people in the past can’t be related to actions/nations of today.
Exactly how I feel as a fellow Türk
Totally agree.
literally,I agree with you
Hi sena, Greek here. I'm happy to hear that you were never taught to hate the Greeks or any nationality for that matter. Do not mind the greeks that only know how to insult someone for Turkey, they are not worth your time. They are no longer the rule but the exception, you may already have guessed that the older generation plays a role here. Victims of violence warn their kids about a specific group of people to the point the kids learns to hate them. Then that grows up to have kids of their own and the cicle continues . They tend to forget that times change and the people responsible are either dead or that they no longer represend their people. Sometimes it is not even the parents that are fault but the education system itself. At the start of her speech you can see how she boasts about the greek culture and nationality and what they achieved, that is a mindset that is planted in the minds of the youth. A bit of insider knowledge, even the military played their part in this, in the national liberation day (and Ochi day) students from ages 10+ learn how to do military marches, they go on a parade and salute the generals on their way. This sometimes becomes a hot topic as to a kid that celebrates their independece from the Ottoman empire in such a militaristic way can plant ideas in them. They are kids they should be worried more about if they ask their crush out, not saluting some man with a rank. Copying a page from the Turkish lad's book , Greeks today do not really care about Turkey. They are worried more about cracking down on corruption, if they can afford rent, if they can raise a family, Police abusing its power in some areas, companies "accidentally" burning entire forests to build more buildings and e.t.c. Every country has fanatics of any sort, either political or religious. Just don't let them be the voice of your people :)
@@TheMeatSlapper It's always good to see people with common sense. People like you and the millions of others are the voice of reason that is needed for a stable relation between our two countries. Just know that as a Greek tourist, you'd be very welcome in Turkey as Turkish people in general embrace and invite people regardless of ethnicity or religion, to their country because they love it so much. :)
Video kaydedildiği sırada Kıbrıs'ta bir Türk devleti yoktu fakat Önder Güler konuşurken Kıbrıs'ta iki devletli bir çözüm olması gerektiğini söyledi. Çok etkileyici. Geleceğe yönelik çok ilginç ve yerinde bir tahminde bulunmuş. Kıbrıs konusu şu an bile tamamen çözülmüş değil ama şu an benzer bir program yapılsa ve 50 yıl sonra Kıbrıs'ta ne durumda olacağımız sorulsa verilecek cevabın tutma olasılığı çok düşük. Amerikan askerleri hakkında yaptığı yorum biraz doğru fakat biraz da politik gibi geldi. Amerika'da yaşadığını ve yaşlandığını öğrendim. Büyük hayal kırıklığına uğradım. Üst düzey bir diplomat olmasını beklerdim, hem ülkemiz adına hem kendi adına büyük kayıp. Türkiye gençlerini kaybetmeye çok önceden başlamış.
Bu durum eminim Onder'in zamaninda da dillendiriliyordu. Adanin Turkiye'ye bakan tarafinin Turklere verilmesi cok da ucuk bir fikir degil. Ayrica yesil hatti cizen taraf da Ingiltere'ydi. Ayrica bugun geldigimiz nokta Onder'in seneler once bahsettigi sey. Yani o donemdeki siyasiler de Onder'in dedigihini basarmislar ki agir ambargoya ugradiklari halde. Diger ulkeler bu cift basliliktan yararlaniyor, cunku kim onlarin suyuna giderse o tarafi tutuyorlar. Simdi Yunanistan ve Guney Kibris Avrupa Birliginde odugu icin onlarin borulari daha cok otuyor ama Ingiltere Brexit yapti. Bakalim onumuzdeki gunlerde durumlar nasil olacak...
O kadar haklisinki birde tam ismi ne Google de ne yazsam çıkar
@@theastronaut3654 önder güler
Kıbrıs'ta Yunanların terör eylemleri 1954'de başladı. 1956'dan sonra taksim konusu konuşulmaya başlamıştı zaten. Zürih ve Londra anlaşmaları ve 1960'ta Kıbrıs Cumhuriyeti kuruluncaya kadar adanın taksimi Türkiye'nin resmi teziydi.
Tahmin ediyorum o dönemde Türkiye'nin resmi tezi budur diye düşünüyorum. Araştırmak lazım.
why greek people are never change and live in their dream 'greatest and superior civilization'
Bir ankete göre Avrupa'nın en çok kendi kültürünü üstün gören milleti Yunanlılarmış.
You will only hear this from uneducated people. Same people who will say they don't like Turks probably.
I personally view us as a third world country. What our ancestors did was remarkable, but that was 2000 years ago. We have absolutely nothing to show for now.
By the way, I've never met anyone in person claiming they hate the Turks. Most of us have travelled there, we know we're all just people trying to get by. Their government needs to cool down though.
Omg that Greek Girl came there to defend prejudices, well I think the goal is not to defend them but only to discuss them. That's really cringy, I wonder why they selected her for this show. Well the Turkish boy remained very calm and professional I hope he lived a great life until today. Greetings from France to my Turkish friends.
As a Turk, I am glad that you think so, I think that the Greek girl came to the program not to break prejudices, but to discuss more. And it was funny that he showed the Turks as if they were bigots...
His experience was based on being proud of being a part of a Big, Conquering Nation. Her experience on a resentment(justified) and being a part of a nation that suffered. People are judging her too hard. Turkish people maybe are great but they politics are not always just. The same with USA are Indians, or people of Kingdom of Hawaii not resentfull towards Americans
@Mesgeve I do not know that. As far as I know French people hate everybody;D But this aside. Most of the people do not hate exact person but the culture the person is coming from f.e in some cultures the women and men are to be wed cause the parents said so this is so unEuropean and so disqusting that cannot be allowed in Europe. Same goes for alcohol in some cultures. Burga in the other. When people in Iraq see white European they probably does not like this person in the first place. The same goes for Japanese who is going to China. But if more time and a tact and understanding from the position of the newcomer is given this hate/distrust mostly dissapears when in conntact with cultured people of every nation, color and creed. Brutes cannot change no matter where are they coming from.
@Mesgeve Well Peace is a far away dream. We are to much connected to our animal, aggresive part to be able to completely get rid of violence. I guess one need to be focused on inside this constant iternal fight and on the other side be able to see evil in outside, in people around us. So maybe we can make the world a little bit better being aware of our and other shortcomings.
Ve Aleykümselam Bro ❤️👑
TURKISH BOY WAS AMAZING OMG....
@easter worshipper We will make Turkey "Greater" again buddy :)
@Hamza Karakaya ne konuştuklarını kısaca özetleyebilir misiniz? İngilizcem olmadığı için anlayamıyorum
@@sevdakusunkanadnda911 yunan ve izlandlı olan öğrenciler kendi ülkemizde türklerden ve türkiyeden nefret ederiz, ona karşı dualar ederiz falan diyor türk çocukta bizim sizin ülkelerinize karşı öyle bir önyargımız yok çünkü biz rusya gibi çok daha büyük ülkelerle karşı karşıya geliyor ve gerilim yaşıyoruz(kısacası siz bizim ligimizde değilsiniz diyor)
@easter worshipper make greece
Ottoman again
@Hamza Karakaya Eastern Asian genetic heritage is about 10%. Central Asian is about 30-40%. Rest is native
It really looks so classy when someone bring their arguement calmly and without insulting the other side. Onder is awesome even though he was insulted.
Önder aslında türklerin ne kadar kibar hoşgörülü saygılı eğitimli güçlü olduğunu söylemekten çok gösterdi. Helal olsun gurur duyduk seninle Önder...
Great conversation !! Turkish boy didnt go out boarder of respect even was forced to do. I would really like to meet him. For the Cyprus, all happened what the was said...
Except for the Malaya representative, all the kids’ mindset is in proper state as they are open for proper discussion.
I couldnt agee more
She loves her ad hominem. Good equipment for a losing war.
i’ve also noticed that those who makes ad hominem comments backfires. Thankful that we are in a different time now and people are more accepting.
This is on point 😂😂
A Chinese from Malaya/Malaysia to be exact. Malayan only in citizenship but thoroughbred Chinese in blood and behaviour.
the filipina girl only respect the malaya girl as she is more older than her.... i just can imagine if they're on the same age and the filipina girl will be a bit sassy, it would be a clash
I wanna see that 🙈
fr though
Filipino back in the 50's are so much respectful and naive. So even if there on same age I cant see her be sassy.
Filipino back in the day are too respectful... but they can be brutally frank with the facts like the filipino boy I watch before this video.
@@jayzenstyle his name is raul contreras
Fun fact, the pirates the kid from Iceland is talking about. The ones that came from Algeria and raided northern countries. They were not Turks. They were westerners. See, during the Spanish/British war, a lot of Dutch and English sailors worked for the Royal Navy as "privateers." They would pirate Spanish ships for the British. Then one day the Spain and Brittain made peace. And these pirates were kinda out of a job. So a bunch of them just started joining the Barbary Corsairs. Who were in turn privateers who worked for the Ottoman sultan. These privateers were essentially part of the Ottoman navy but had considerable freedom. E.g. Their leaders had autonomy and their own cities/port towns they got to rule over (literal pirate towns). They would raid ships that were at war with the Ottomans, and often the crew would be enslaved to row in Ottoman boats, or they'd be sold. The galley slaves would often also end up converting and joining the Barbary Corsairs and some of them even became famous captains. Anyway, so these Dutch and English pirates start joining the Corsairs, some of them convert to Islam and even change their name. Many of them would just go back to their home countries to recruit more men. Like Dutch privateers in the Barbary corsairs would often go to the Netherlands so they could hire themselves entirely Dutch crews of sailors. Many of whom, in turn, also rose in the ranks of the Corsairs. The Turkish, North African, and Middle Eastern Pirates generally wouldn't sail all the way to the northern edge of the world. This was more a thing that Dutch and British sailors did. They would visit their home country and recruit a bunch of sailors. Then, raid the norther countries and sail back to North Africa.
EDIT: A "Young Turk" in English means someone who goes against the Establishment and established rules. Often used for more liberal / progressive young and ambitious people who want change.
And the Greek girl saying that the rights of minorities in Turkey aren't respected is kinda hilarious. Even today, if the Turkish minority in western Thrace calls themselves Turks, they are sent to jail. I wish I was joking, but Greece denies they are Turks and demands everyone, including they themselves, call them "Greek Muslims." The "Muslim Greeks" also aren't allowed to pick their own religious representatives. So they secretly select their own religious leaders for which they then get persecuted. When 2 Greek Journalist of Turkish descend wrote an article that said they should have the right to choose their own religious leader. They were sued with if I remember correctly a decade of jail (I don't remember how the trail went).
They would force Turks from their own lands, claim they had to survey the land. Then they'd give the land "protected historical" status, which meant the farmers weren't allowed to come back to their lands.
Greece respecting minorities and minority rights is a joke. Esp back then. But even today, it's hilarious that an EU nation can get away with just denying an entire ethnic groups right to identify with their own ethnicity. They deny their entire existence. Turkey tried claiming Kurds were "mountain Turks" in the 1930's in an effort to assimilate them. But today, that's seen as a dark page in our history books. A 100 years later, Greece is still at it.
WOW! Thanks for clarifying. As a Turk I thought I knew my history fairly well. The level of prejudice from an Iclander didn't make sense to me. Ottomans didn't have presence there. The double standard for mistreating ethnic groups is real. Everyone has done it one way or another. The amount of lies that were told to the ANZAC about the Turks to get them to fight for Great Brittan were insane.
"There are too many Chinese around and they control almost all the business and trade."
Parang familiar.
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tawa tayo mga 10 ngina!
So NOW!!
Gagi🙃
We are too passive people.
I thought it was funny how the Icelandic guy talked about the Turks, when they are the descendants of the vikings lol
Huh? From where did you gather that turks were "descendants" of the Vikings? This ought to be one good joke with a punchline!
@@stanleyj.250 they meant the icelandic guy I think
@@stanleyj.250 he said the Icelander was a descendant of Vikings
@@stanleyj.250 bro he's talking about Icelandic guy, not the Turkish :)
@@stanleyj.250 oy vey! He meant that Icelandic people are descendants of the vikings.
The greek young girl reminds me of my greek colleague now. My goodness they are identical with their attitude. I salute the young turks for being diplomatic and well mannered.
Don't blame her, it's how they are raised, both at home and state propaganda is doing overtime, even as we speak. American troops have settled on several places with military bases in greece and stirring up old wounds between these two cultures and countries to start another war, just like provoking Russia to invade Ukraine and Taiwan dispute with China. Greece's wet dream to expand (Megali Idea) isn't helping much in the process either, but kept interestingly quit in the rest of the western world.
In 1958 of course there were those ideas from Greek towards Turkish, we're talking about only 100 years from the liberation from them and the crimes and massacre against the Greek people by the Turkish conquerors. We will never forget these crimes, both my grandfathers slaughtered by Turks. And of course the original Turkish people that came from the steppes of Mongolia naked riding a horse didn't have any civilization, later they discovered the world after conquering and enslaving other countries and cultures like Persians, Egyptians and Greeks and did intermarriage with them and create the today somehow better Turkey.
@@ses4068 That's the complete bullshit propaganda that Turkey feeds its kids at schools and imbeciles like u all around the world believe. Do you know anything about the situation in Cyprus, let me tell you from first hand. I had relatives in Cyprus that the Turkish army killed and kick out of their homes. After years they returned to see what happened to their homes and uncivilized Turkish families that brought by the government from the bowels of Turkey were living there inside my relatives own home. They weren't there from the beginning, in the land of Cyprus, they brought there, promised free houses by the gov of Turkey. And the characterization of uncivilized that I used to describe the familys wasn't because I'm mean, it's because of the fact that when my family returned to their home realized that the new people that live inside, had completely destroyed for ex. their beautiful classic furniture (tables, chairs, sofas, beautiful handmade pieces) and they preferred to sit on the floor in the middle of a dirty empty house. Of course all their precious heritage jewelry were gone too. That's the truth, that's what happened and the pain of kicking u out of your own home and land and country I wish noone will experience it again. But that's who Turks were and they never punished for that. I ask my grandmother about this stories and when she talking about them she can't stop crying, because she lost also siblings and family members that refused to leave their own home.
@@trevorphilips9859 wtf are you smoking bro? "Naked horseman" and also why dont you talk about crimes of greeks against turkish people?
@@trevorphilips9859 ok you are a proof of what your country’s school system is teaching you . Hate more hate and more grudge other than science and making a proper research about history lol
The way that the Turkish boy politely and eloquently explained his views ❤