That was Dr. Vangala J. Ram, my beloved late father-in-law. He was a Telluride Scholar and PH.D. from Cornell University, with a lifetime appointment at the United Nations. Absolutely brilliant. 💕
Johnny of the Philippines has the Best opinion about Communism in this Debate👏👏👏... All what his saying are true now it's happening around the World the CONSPIRACY regarding the Communist Russia, Red China, North Korea and the OTHERS??? that any ordinary people may not know??? People in the World may begin now to be AWARE, do Research, have better Understanding, start Reading the BIBLE REVELATION PROPHECY, THE BOOK OF JUBILEE, ENOCH, 2nd ESDRAS the answer is already there.
this is exactly what the capitalist system is doing to the poor of our society and this is why communism is controversial in our society because it offers an alternative economic sytem that might solve the problem of poverty. but the problem is that communists, primarily members of CPP-NPA (not all communists belong to communist organizations) are not willing to give up the armed struggle to achieve their goals which understandably will not be tolerated by any democratic government. the issue today is whether it is consistent with the principles of democracy to suppress members of communist organizations by force if necessary which the opponents of Johnny in this debate think is undemocratic. this is a thorny issue that might divide our society and can result to a civil war. we should really think deeply about the issue specially those who can influence government policies to avoid unnecessary bloodshed in our country.
The problem in the Philippines is that both demo-crazy and comfu-nism are inconsistent with their own principles in some way. Johny is a representive of a democratic country yet here he argues like a dictator, making hasty assumptions and generalization that anyone who joins communist organizations are automatically criminals, and stripping them the freedom to form and join organizations. But I cannot blame him because some communist groups in the Philippines really act like terrorists, who kill even the poor people, which is again inconsistent to the principles of communism. The politics in the Philippines is pretty fucked up. I think the current movement which closely resembles communism is Community Pantries, a money-less system, "you own everything, and at the same you don't own anything", so "you give according to your abilities, and you receive according to your needs". Although, I'm not pro-administration, but I say that they are right to call Community Pantries as communist, but not the terrorist communist, but the ideal communist. And it's amazing how this idea of mutual-aid spread like wildfire across the country. It just tells us something about who the true Filipino is. It's sad how many Filipinos in the comment section are so proud of him without taking some time to understand what he is actually saying. Fascist. Now, I don't really know who the true Filipino is..
@@psykiem maybe we Filipinos are ideal communists in our innermost being. most of us just don't realize or accept the label communist as a designation because it was demonized by anti-communist propagandists and identified with terrorism in the mindset of the masses. i agree with you that the community pantry movement is a spontaneous expression of true communism. how i wish that this communistic bayanihan spirit does not cease and be creatively expressed in other forms even after the pandemic.
You'd like the Indian guy to be leading a country, the filipino guy to head the army, the norweigen guy to head the judiciary. The british guy could become a movie star
Agree to all except abt the British guy.. He was awesome.. he had the perspective to understand the goodness in communism while the others were blatantly ridiculing communism as an evil...
And at the end of the day Johnny's point stand more correct and practical and he was the only man on that debate who saw it first hand what communism is all about..
Idealism crumbles when applied in the real world with real people in an actual scenario. This is why I hate idealism and virtue signalling. While they're great to hear, they're not really effective and practical. Ram is like a politician who promises the public the best things, speaks the sweetest words that the masses want to hear. Johnny is the real deal who wouldn't accept any bs from anyone, he's like the politician who wants true change and wants to tackle the problem head on.
@@jeromejosephpama8253 well if you say "most" and not "all", we just need one brave producer to do that. Anw, extremist communism is not the only social issue we have. And we can talk about one after another.
you have to have a background on Ph history to understand Johnny's arguments. I think his position reflects his education. Remember Philippines was colonized by the US, and even after a decade of independence, its influence and presence can still be felt in the country. America weaponized education, and used it to sort of shape the thinking of their "little brown brothers."
The communists threat is real, only an idiot would not believe it, hukbalahap still exist and operating in the south for God's sake. The assertion that they are organized is false.
True , but what can we do people are more interested in gossips than with actual news and events. Other's still argue that COVID isn't real and just a hoax made but the government..
IKR he’s the best! everyone in this comment section is a massive simp for johnny for some reason. i respect his opinions and he’s clearly very eloquent but the others (at least in my opinion) make much more logical points. also he seems super condescending and simplifies the issues too much.
@@Nadie47 nah. Just a reactionary. I respect the guy. That is the same as indian guy talking about British imperialism, because he has seen that shit uk
@@somyabarwa2916 i am not on drugs but some Indians are who believe in it, many believe elephant head can be transplanted on kids and monkey can eat sun, here you go: th-cam.com/video/Km2M0Ce8gGc/w-d-xo.html
This video wouldn't help kids understand what's bad about communism. The kids in this video are already in agreement about that, so they don't discuss it. Here, they only discuss how to prevent it from spreading in their countries. So it's not very useful for education.
I just made a comment like this on another channel for this clip..I reckon it would be a spectacle to watch. Both Johny and senator Miriam has good humor, so aside from being informative it will be entertaining. While on the other hand Raul and if we could add Dennis Normandy are the serious types that will share their actual experiences to give us some roller coaster of emotions.
No. Did MDS stand against communism? No.. So, it is irrelevant to compare or relate Johnny to Mirriam. I think Johnny's character is more relatable to Duterte, because the former is actually erradicating the NPA-NDF-CPP
Johnny is the man. He's talking to a group of people who doesn't understand what they are talking about. Hahahahaha. They keep running around the idea. Here comes India representative, still the same, tries to outshine everyone and believed he is the best of everything.
Liked the logic of Philipino guy.. freedom has its limits. That rattle snake example was awesome. He reminds of Chanakya, the greatest Indian visionary, who created Mauryan empire from Afghanistan till Myanmar
Chanakya lived in ancient times and thought only in terms of preserving the state's power, because back then the state was the nation. His methods today would be dictatorial. Johnny is morally wrong here.
@@earningzekrom4173 When it is about interest of nation, there is no moral compass. We have seen how countries have either sided with aggressors or kept quiet because doing so was in their national interest. Being an Indian myself, I have seen how idealism like that of Ram in our early post independence political history has messed up things for us. Gandhi / Nehru gave away best resources and lands of great value to enemy states of China and Pakistan, example: Lahore city to Pakistan, Indus water treaty which gives 80% water to Pakistan, Tibet and mount Kailash to to Chine, UNSC permanent member seat to China and many more blunders
if we shifted into parliamentary we have this kind of debate in government and we can see whoo has wisdom and that way we can choose wisely as voters and avoid some bobo politicians
Filipino guy is just better looking that's why people giving him extra brownie points. Just read comments despite Indian guy is speaking much better still he is getting all the hatred because Filipino guy is hot according to comment section. (I respect that Filipino guy i am just talking about people on comment section)
Well, they all tried to gang up against the Philippino guy but they can't catch him. He is too smart for them and the most add-up point is his common sense.
I think the difference here, is that Johnny's arguments were more realistic while the others are quite idealistic. During this time, the Ph is combating blatant communism, communists were shamelessly doing immoral acts, I think Johnny's arguments were just based off from actual experience.
Mind you, these boys or men are HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS probably between 15-18 years old. Dang, they are equipped with knowledge....They were sent to NYC for debate/symposium with 32 other countries. I believe this was an annual event. The Filipino guy was just 16 y/o.
Well here in the Philippines during that time, a 16 yo should already be in college or in their last year of high school depending if they went to school early or not.
Well I'm pretty sure every country participated chose their best and most knowledgeable student they have. Also since communism is a big issue at that time it is kinda the commen knowledge of the time to know about the topic, if we have this annual event I'm pretty sure they will either talk about covid-19 or the race issue in America and the world.
@@FrankToasty Oh yeah, the K-12 system wasn't there at the time. The K-12 curriculum happened in the Philippines in I guess around 2015-2016. No wonder teenagers in the Philippines were more well mannered before, since usually they start college about 16-17 years old. They're pretty young to get a job at that time too.
The difference between what they know of communism was that the Philippines was literally fighting with communists at the time, while the rest (as stated earlier) was fighting with the idea of it.
Exactly! But I understand the point of Johnny and the other 3 gentlemen. The problem was that the movement of communism in PH at that time was different with the other countries, you see communism with other countries secretly lurking in the high position of society trying to influence other influential people with their idea to overthrow the government and install their own idea of society which is communism (because they had money, they had own men to do dirty jobs). While here, the communist was literally fighting with their idea and also being used as a pawn by their higher-ups.
Johnny(The Philippines) was right to say that an individual should be criminalized and be persecuted for his/her participation in an act of which any nation finds unlawful. In the context where Johnny said " the minute a man joins a society with a purpose of killing, and cutting your throat, he became a traitor to that society ", that is one of the many reasons that there is now a law against being a part of any terrorist group. I wanted to say Johnny was way ahead of his time and some of his opponents, but that would be an insult to their generation. Our generation now has diminished greatly that most, if not all, individuals of our time are inclined to contend in a debate but without the failure of attacking or taking the rebuttal personally.
What must be done is punishing the intent in a way that this appropriate for such. As long as the intent can be established in physical evidences that support the existence of such.
You almost got it but didn't you notice what they are talking about is communism and NOT TERRORISM. Unfortunately, that is where Johnny seemed to be wrong. He even said that communists are already traitors. Not all people with communism ideals are terrorist and this is what the other boys are trying to explain! The Norwegian even said that you would loose the beneficial principles of communism if you outlaw it. And the British is indeed correct that it is a lazy solution! 'You cannot persecute the group as a whole if some individual persons are criminals'. That Norwegian is on point!
It's really impressive how intelligent, polite the students are and the instructor.... almost makes me sad, I don't know if students of today could be so informed
I think you also have to understand that these kids must be from prestigious universities and come from privileged families. If you compare overall generation from today and the past then i think today's generation is smarter. We can't just generalise the entire generation by the use of tiktok. Not everyone uses tiktok, atleast not in India. Many kid use internet for their education too. Many kid in India uses Internet to become the engineer, doctor, administrative officer and many other things. Also, many people in past didn't had enough opportunities or resources to educate themselves. As far as i talk about India's young generation, our problem is brain drain since our government is not providing better social and financial security or infrastructure to our top minds & that cost the country lots of money since they study in government institutions like Indian institute of technology and AIIMS. Many Indian CEO from international companies are from IIT.
It's amazing how much they knew about global politics and communism without the internet. Most 16 year olds I knew in the late-90s were mostly oblivious to geo politics and communism beyond slogans from musicians.
*learning their views on things. She is a moderator on this debate. She most possibly already knows the stuff and has her own knowledgeable opinions on the topics these kids have discussed here
The Indian guy was the most outstanding in his depth and understanding of Issue at hand, and was more mature than all the other 3 combined. He put his points across clearly and also lectured the other candidates, without mincing words. The Filipino guy was very pragmatic and direct and his solutions were the most practical. Very nice debate indeed!
@P Pierre i don't know to which country you belong, but i live in India and in India no minority is punished for being minority, with muslims the only issue is they keep religion above everything even above their nation, not all but most, and i even don't know why i called them minority they are second in majority
This is what happened when you argue to some people who have a lot of opinions but don't have an actual experience of communists . I stand with Johnny.
Alam ni jonny kung paano manggago ang mga kumunista alam niya kung paano pumasok ang mga kumunista sa systema ng lipunan, halos lahat ng systema sa bansa napasok na ng mga kumunista, may kumunista sa gobyerno mayroon sa showbiz mayroon din sa mga civilian groups at sa mga negosyo
@@crashercrasher9696 TAMA ka LAHAT Communist na,, pati simbahan MAYRON na rin ata, TINGNAN mo kung gaano SILA ka involved sa Rally at against sa Government, Hindi nga dapat kasali at hiwalay sila.
@@Lightstar73 uu nakalimutan ko banggitin may alam akong madre na membro pala ng Npa tas may guro din membro ng npa, so napakalawak ng impluwensyang napasok ng kumunista sa systema ng lipunan ganyan sila katindi manggago sa taumbayan
"the animal instincts are far more fundamental than the human instincts", "you can't defend democracy by losing it" and so many more wise comments! What a wonderful discussion and debate! I can't get enough of it.
they are speaking according to their realities so it is well anticipated that they won't understand each other. but a reasonable solution is the catch of this show and Johnny already nailed his stand.
Hi, I'm Filipino but my mom's ethnicity is Japanese . I just wanted to share what my dad had told me. My dad was born in Butuan City 1954 during this particular time that Johnny participated as an exchange student. What my dad told me, during his schooling that our country had "current events" subject or discussion where they gather newspapers discussing it everyday and archive it for an entire year. It was part of their curriculum that's why highschool students in the early 1950s, 1960s and 1970s were super aware of what's going on, in their society despite of the lesser technology compared to what we have today.. My mom is Japanese born in the Philippines.. despite the war our country received Japanese naturalized to Filipinos to our society.. Our countrymen were that forgiving and open to people who embraced our culture.
@@johnrobertpasquel4290 this is a very useful fun fact. Very informative. Then there's you with your comment, a very evidence of what happened wrong with our school curriculum.
The Indian and Filipino seemed to be the most prepared and knowledgeable with regards to the subject in comparison to others Although Johnny sometimes does seem a bit extreme but we need a mix of his aggression and rams calm and empathic nature to tackle problems such as these
I love Johnny the most! He’s very realistic compared to Ram that’s crazily idealistic, probably because he had actual experiences with communism, that’s why he came out aggressive but I understand him! Just because someone is more aggressive doesn’t make his points less valid! This is something that people need to understand. Also, just because someone is calmer, doesn’t make his points more valid and make him more “logical”.
You must be a Westerner to say that he's an idealist. If you know the imperialist history of America, you know well how hypocritical the west can be. Just recently, look at the way they are portraying Ukraine. Vice and BBC were making documentaries about Neo n@&i$ in Ukraine that overthrew the govt and now the same people are the most angelic human beings who can do no wrong. The Indian man KNOWS BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN while the Filipino, being colonised by Americans and because of his own history, has an extremist view.
19:29 "it doesn't matter if you cause a man to be poor, what makes it worse is if you keep him poor" that was a real blow. Ram was correct but he would have almost lost to Peter if Johnny didn't put in this argument. He put Peter in his own trap. Well played.
That's what the Philippine Dictator did.. to keep its citizens Poor and Decrease its Budget for Education (1972 Budget for educ BSP) so that they will remain Poor & ignorant just like in North Korea. Brain washed them & change History. Just like what they did now in spreading Disinformation reason Corruption returned w/ Two Family Dictators.
I like how the woman is just listening and is enjoying the whole discussion like I am Edit: lol thanks for the likes. Didn't expect it to get into a 100 Edit: it reached 200 now.
Extraordinary.. I love this kind of events.. Different nationalities are sharing thoughts about common problems.. But at the same time it makes me realise how very far I am from being educated.. Indeed, I think I agree with some comments that we are really evolving backwards..
Love how Johnny carries himself as an equal to those from advanced countries. This was the time when we Filipinos did not look down on ourselves as a poor country but a newly liberated one with a bright future ahead of us.
Yeah . Fed up with Filipino reps to international shows always with pitiful drama effect intros. Must learn to be dignified and confident like this Johnny.
Oum kase nuon mayaman talaga pinas hindi pa nakikitang poor kase halos kasabay palang natin noon ang mga bansang maunlad na ngayon kasabay natin sila noon kung pano palang papalago ang bansa until the end of Marcos at dumating na mga Aquino ayon bukod sa bumagsak tayo at ang Ekonomiya naiwan at naistuck na tayo kung saan ang iba ay paangat ng paangat habang tayo naipit na at hindi na nakaaangat buti nalang du30 now umuunlad na tayo rising Tiger economics of Asia hindi pa huli ang lahat 😇❤️🇵🇭
It is expected that India and Philippines would stand out on this debate as both parties/countries experienced oppression and poverty. They were exposed to different issues and sees a lot more than ideas because of their countries' situations.
@@christiankyle1002 ?? india was colonized by Britain for a very long time and the Philippines was colonized by Spain - thats how the name of the country came - from King Philip of Spain
@@tan3062 Now people do nonsense shit like duos gaming or girlfriend breakup fights. People seldom study. Nor do they at least watch the news or self-inform via helpful forums. I hope the upcoming generation of (what I expect and observe) educated Filipinos can occupy the government seats and start making changes, especially in the development of the young, drifting them away from somewhat toxic levels of "fun", like the said ones at the top.
@@KickBatotskie22 pre, search mo yung justice corona's impeachment, serafin cuevas. check mo paano niya nilampaso mga kalaban. the best and the brightest,, considering his age na rin. former justice din kasi siya.
No, more like Late Ferdinand Marcos. Both of them never pause or think what to say, and all what's coming out of their mouth are pure solid intelligence. I'm not saying Madam Miriam isn't smart, she is really smart but I was talking about how they compose their thoughts and laid them out so damn clear. Watch Marcos interviews, you'd be amazed how almost identical they are - Johnny and Macoy.
Indian here 🙏, in very beginning I supported Ram (Indian person) as he mentioned about freedom of expression under democracy, but later when I listened more carefully, Johnny from Phillipines, is speaking from more closer experience compared to other boys. His conviction is stronger than other boys there, but Ram also mentioned that communism in India is more rampant among educated, compared to weaker section of society, which holds truth in present 2021. Communism, leftism in India is artificial and never was organic. Communism is a tool of anti nationalists, extremists in present times. But overall, again hats off to gentlemenship of boys in this debate, much better than present debaters 👍
Actually your are not fully correct ini india instead of communism socialism spread between poor Which led to socialism movement like ( JP movement) and give Birth to parties Like SP, RJD, JDU , JDS , RLD India had socialist leader like Jay prakash narayan and ram. Manohar lohiya
I really like how theyre calm while arguing about a real serious topic meanwhile today if you say something slightly offensive it would lead to violence
Sadly. It's fun to talk about these things as you get different perspectives, but then, others would take it personally and say stupid things about you.
Johnny was way ahead of the members in this debate. I like how a debater he is, he is very calm yet the message he wishes to portray is clear and on point. I can really tell his love for his fellow Filipinos, indeed Filipino Pride.
Yeah most people nowadays are spoiled by too much Democracy too much Freedom. Cmon guys don't be a spoiled brat learn to be obedient and law abiding citizens. Kill those who destroy the society. No need to be afraid if you are doing nothing bad
@@eleventh3559 too much freedom will lead you just like rally,If everyone had unlimited freedom, there would be no protections every one will go killing each other because of to much freedom, no restriction and no discipline you know what will happens to a country if that will be happend Even Marcos say Filipino need discipline because look at today in our country there is no discipline. This is my opinion.
@@chockshurleyp.landrito616 yeah too many people in philippines are spoiled and lazy, and want's everything in their favor like what their parent's do to them spoil them like special childs and as a result their attitudes become salty specialy those high class family
@@umiismyname4142 well that's something we don't know because that's from 1956 and my grandpa is like 3 years old in 1956. so maybe he is alive without any disease or condition right? If he is lucky to be alive today...there is a war during those days..
@@umiismyname4142 i read one of this video debate of him uploaded by someone, he was a professor 1 of the university in the Philippines called UP - UNIVERSITY OF THE PHIL.
These young brilliant minds were ahead of their time. The Indian boy is the reflective judge, the Filipino boy is the activist leader, the Norwegian boy had the conscience of a great legislator, and the British is his pretty errand boy.
"I cannot believe that a man have the mind of a worm, that he would be so spineless that he would not rebel against the position in which society puts him" - Johnny, at this point india got destroyed by Johnny
The Indian delegate seems trying to blame everything on British imperialism. It may or may not be true. But one thing is certain is that, British imperialism is already non existent at that time. And the casts system has still been practiced at that time particularly in the villages which is one of the root causes of poverty in India. And yet still he is forcing his way that British imperialism still the root of poverty and communism in India.
@@andromedaplay9294 what if British were ruled by Indian, and you called Indians as your masters? And what if British people were sent to fight battles from Indian side... And during famines in Britain, left over crops be exported to India since we are battling our enemy.. Wouldn't all these developments have any toll on Britishers in this hypothetical situation? Blaming everything on caste system wouldn't support your debate of the communal toll we have paid and are still paying whereas Britishers got top notch services then
@@soundsofdays7459 communism is a world wide failure, in all its essence even communists dont practice communism bcz to force ppl into giving all their property to everyone else u ll have to practically use non civil methods. and in the name if communism only the govts get thos properties. so while the very ideal of communism is not wrong but how, behind its visage the ppl that preached it practiced it, we can surely agree with the filipino guy, but then again, u wanna punish criminals not the idea or those that simply believe in it.
I can see the standard and the quality produced by the education system back then, compared to today's system is like worlds apart. I can't help but sigh. Lungkot lang.
The filipino guy was so right with this one. " This is why I'm fond of saying that one of the best ways of treating a communist is to make him a capitalist."
I liked Ram and Johnny... It's sad because we never listen to people screaming out about communists and how they are taking over. The Peter guy literally said, "I won't listen to the word produced, I won't hear that word caused.... Maintained to a lesser degree. " He was so annoyed at the opinion that his country produced communism to another country. He completely wanted to block out someone else's views....We are currently dealing with Peter multiplied by millions in the USA.
The problem in the USA is that everyone has their own version of communism. Ask different people to define communism and they will have different answers, depending on the politician or celebrity that they favor. You can't get rid of the problem if the whole country can't even agree on what the exact definition of the word is.
@@dwighthoward54321 ITS A COINCIDENCE I WATCHED A DOCUMENTATION ABOUT THE DISTURBING REASON WHY CHINA’s version of TikTok is different from the worldwide’s version and went back to this video I downloaded about debate on how to handle communism. China’s TikTok is educational while ours has a big influence on the youth showing us foolish content that goes viral and makes us go into trend with it especially TIKTOK is such an addictive app that children spend their time on it 1/3 of the time they have everyday to keep up with the app. Everyday, that app makes children less and lesser intelligent. The reason why TikTok was banned in India was probably to prevent their generation to be affected with the plan of China with the addictive app to the present generation.
in my opinion the mother hen is away working abroad and father stays at home busy with something else,late 1970's ,early 1980 's went to work abroad and this generation head bow into cellphone and computer ,,like living in their own world ,not much social inter action
19:36 "there was some education system put into India" That's what they want you to believe. *There already was a well established education system within India.* People knew how to read and write. It was just like any other European country from that time where only rich had his privilege while poor were struggling.
Totally agreed..the brit was adamant to accept the wrong doings of thier country , shame on imperial countries who became rich by leeching on other countries blood
Before British invasion literacy rate in India was very very high but English under Lord macaulay changed the medium of instruction and suddenly India had to start from zero literacy rate from which they have not been able to recover even until today atleast in Pakistan!!
@@jeshuamalraj7744 Literacy defined by British you mean? Also I would go for before" Mughal Invasion" And also you can still see cultural effect on lifestyle in Southern parts of India that had little Mughal interference.
In today’s time, you can’t barely find high school teenagers taking about politics with that same depth of ideas. It’s not really the top of the food chain kinda concept, its just that kids way back are so into issues like politics and how government should work.
@@bethd93 I agree with you. These high schoolers came out of war - and not just any war but the second world war, so their mindset was formed out of a different paradigm. And as my grandfather is saying, kids back then doesn't really have a lot of "distraction" from the technology like we have right now, so they mostly spend their thinking time aspiring for a better society, because it was tough times then. They don't travel as much as we do now, doesn't spend their time playing games, engaging in social media, etc. And the only source of information they can easily have is thru publications (newspapers, magazines, books) which often talks about current affairs, unlike now where information (both the good ones and the trash) is blasted thru the internet. And right now, an issue trends for a week or so and then it stops trending, but back then (as my grandfather claims) a trending issue often stays for a very long while, years- which I say adds depth to one's understanding, the longer everyone discourses about an issue, the deeper the understanding on it would be.
Thumbs up sa mga naaaddict manuod nito. Yung 26 minutes na video na to parang ang ikli lang kasi napa interesting na topic bukod pa doon marami ka pang matututunan.
@@d-katsu8931 Yeah it must suck being the British student in the debate with India blaming the Brits but they strayed way off-topic. India should not talk about British Imperialism because with or without the Brits, communism would still exist.
Naive indeed. It's a conspiracy! Despite explaining it as simple as Johnny could, the other three failed to understand. He knew it so well. There are no contradicting ideas. While his stand on the topic cannot be applied in today's time, it's definitely the answer back then. Just want to highlight as well that while Johnny doesn't seem calm, he is. Ram only has a deep voice but he's definitely gritting his teeth to argue equally to Johnny. It's that deep voice and accent that some of the people from the comment section are focusing on. You can also tell how Johnny doesn't pick on anyone, he will support your idea if he agrees to it, just like how he piggyback nay even corrected that the British MAINTAINED (produced) part.
Yes I finally find someone who think smartly I fully agree I stressed myself with bunch naive fools keep praising without understanding the real protagonist here!
Basically Ram is less aggressive. He wasn't reacting to attacks. Johnny was better at that because he didn't take attacks sitting down. However, he went very aggressive on communism. I understand that his country was going through a communist problem but asking to outlaw communism is not correct. If that were the argument, the same can be said about Islam. Muslims keep maintaining that Muslims are together a brotherhood irrespective of their nation. Sometimes foreign agents (sponsored by an Islamic country) are offered shelter by local Muslims. By the same logic, Islam should be banned in non-Muslim countries. And yet a small criticism of Islam invokes violent reprisals and cancellation from all. Why can't we give the same dignity to someone who holds communist ideals?
@@joemama8243 Idiot. How did you assume that everyone here is Pinoy? Also if my grammar was wrong correct me where I'm wrong instead of complaining like a moron. Your statement is just full of ignorance.
They might be experiencing the conflict of each countries especially after early years after WWII and it must be on point but truly frustated at the exact time for them, how clever they were and how open minded to keep calm and use their brain and human sense to debate with each other
15:07 Ram: "The basic assumption is that poverty and illiteracy produces communism but paradoxically, the communism is more rampant in educated people, among the rich people, and among the minorities" so true. It was in 1956 and it's 2021 and these words still stand.
It would have been excellent if the delegates were asked what each of them meant by "communism" because they may have been arguing about different things.
I remember when i was elementary 1982 when i was grade 1 ..our place was terrible i had experience of war i was terrifying saw a lot of dies armies and civillian lying down everywhere we walking and passby i was crying and im very scared we have to evacuate the place ..it was terrible that experience ..our life was missirable because of war ..im not agree of communism horrible and terrible ...
The Philippino boy is such smart guy with a strong argument and good understanding of the political tensions and systems of that time. Their discussions is quite interesting and educative for those of us watching. I am very impressed with their method of debating. But more importantly, the moderator...That Lady is such a gem and an amazing host for the students. Our Teachers can learn a lot from that lady. Way to go moderators.
@@raycdo2012 i came to the Philippines to escape american ideals as today they have forsaken God and are under God's judgment but, more and more I see filipinos also encouraging disrespectful behavior and are going the way of America to sadly. At least in manilla.
@@troywardjr1216 some of our country men are adopting the liberated American ideals. Hollywood and other American movies or series such as netflix, hayu, KUWTK has great influence to Filipino teens. If they can't live in the American dream, they will stick to Plan B , which is to adopt toxic, disrespectful American behaviour.
Not really, his argument against communism is mostly demonizing communism like its made by Satan. Although he is well-versed and informed in the general system of the government and up to times with his own government, he has a horrible characterization and attitude as shown by his dismissiveness, arrogance and own ignorance. He cooperates at time but mostly goes on on demonizing communism and causing arguments due to semantic misunderstanding (as he constantly create analogies to explain/defend his stance between complex situation to really simple situations).
@@boysteacher3818 At least his stance is clear unlike the other debaters like India, UK, and the other one. Their stance is half-hearted and lukewarm without clarity. On one hand, they are pro-democratic while the other is pro-communism. In debate, you have to take a stance and have the ability to defend it. Just like in court, you can't be the defender of the victim yet sympathize with the perpetrator. That is confusing and F up!
Both are applicable, and actually solves the issue. During that time, communism has already taken a huge part of our society and our people. Direct action is needed otherwise our country will become a communist nation especially when they already have some members who were politicians and even a couple senators were suspected to be part of the communist rebels.
I'm india but that filipino guy was correct. India is still facing naxalism maoism problem till this day even after trying to solve it diplomatically. Philippines is facing similar problem@@arkyudetoo9555
i feel that the solution that johnny proposed was not good enough...why because when you outlaw a certain community, you are disillusioning them from the society and thats what democracy prohibits. A similar situation was there in india too where there was a community named untouchables, no one was supposed to touch them hence they felt separated from the world.The time you compare a person or a community to a rattle snake for just his ideologies or thoughts, the more they will try to prove they are right in what they are thinking creating rebellion.. Gandhi once said an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.BTW i am not trying to prove you wrong or anything about what you thought, i am just giving you an alternate perspective :)
@@lonewolf.s.n.4083 You are saying is different from your experience and our experience. India has that "caste system". We don't have caste system in Philippines. So Johnny is okay in his opinion. Also this is just my opinion. People might mess this up later
@@vanishingstar777 yes different countries should have different strategies to resolve the problem, i dont really know the situation in phillippines but seeing that many ppl support johnny makes me think that it might be one of the optimum solution for phillippines .Ram correctly pointed that too about the difference in situations that the two countries are facing. caste system has nothing to do with communism instead they are not connected at all. It was just unnecessarily brought up in that debate.
@@lonewolf.s.n.4083 The Communist Party of the Philippines, New People's Army or CPP-NPA in a nutshell is a terrorist group with a goal of overthrowing the government to get rid of democracy and capitalism to replace it with communism. If we remove NPA we are left with CPP which is no longer a terrorist group but has the exact same goal. How they will reach that goal is by bringing in the NPA part where they are freely recruiting (because of democracy) to this day in the Mindanao area. They can simply deny being part of the NPA while they are still training and all is well. Johnny's argument is recognizing the danger where there is evidently one so we can get rid of the problem. Prevention is better than cure as how the doctors put it. Even then, since multiple damages through terrorist attacks already happened in the past, getting rid of the communist party today is just removing the tumor which was left growing for decades. As I see it, the other's stance is freedom and democracy above all else even to the extent wherein the people and democracy itself are at risk.
Amazing Jhonny. Ang tatalino ng nga Filipino noong araw. Kaya naipaglaban nila ang Pilipinas hindi nasakop ng kung anong Bansa.. Dapat lang pahalagahan ang nga heroes natin.
Kalungkot lang sa panahon ngayon mga kabataan natin karamihan mangtrolls at mangtrashtalk nakang magaling proud pa ayaw magaral mabuti sa klase ata sa 30 lima kang seryoso magaral
Saka yung parusa na ginawa ni President Magsaysay firing squad para sa mga sundalo na abuso sa mga civilian. Kaya umayos ang pagkakaisa sa Pilipinas. Dapat ganon din gawin ngayon dahil maraming abusado sa panunungkulan kaya nagiging masama ang mga mmamayan o kaya tumitigas ang ulo dahil na rin sa namumuno . There goes a saying like this... A GOOD LEDER MUST BE A GOOD FOLLOWER. ❤👍👌🙏
Within Norway communism is not an option where basic goods are provided, there's not a need for an ideology for masses like communism. I'm a Filipino but I don't agree with Johnny at all. This is the same line of thinking that Ferdinand Marcos exploited to justify his dictatorship or his declaration of martial law. Communism became a worse problem during Marcos dictatorship. Lots of abuses that push people to join a group/rebellion to quell a common enemy. Look where Norway is now, and where Philippines is now.
@@aldrinaldrin4618 you can only blame this to the marco's family because president marco's isn't even a president yet, marco's is not a dictator he's a hero the dilawans media used ninoy aquino death and the martial law to kick marco's out of his presidency and fun fact: marco's proclamed martial law because the people are in danger of terrorist in our country and the dilawans payed the police men to arrest kill and torture people in our country
@@wutdahell9666 Actually, you have no evidence to defend your claim. As far as I understand what exactly your point is about,is clearly not related to what Aldrin mentioned above. We cannot point fingers to any previous leaders coz clearly we don't have any idea. We cannot act as if we know anything and spread gibberish claims that have no point. All the previous leaders becomes a leader coz the people trust them.
During my college days my professor told us about democracy. In Democracy you have your freedom, but if your freedom is injurious to the freedom of others the government has the right to curtail your freedom.
What happened to this Young Indian th-cam.com/video/3Lgjmb4Wahw/w-d-xo.html
Let's see how tik tok generation talk to each other on such topics.
That was Dr. Vangala J. Ram, my beloved late father-in-law. He was a Telluride Scholar and PH.D. from Cornell University, with a lifetime appointment at the United Nations. Absolutely brilliant. 💕
@@marionram8549 amazing
There is Duterte that time…
Johnny of the Philippines has the Best opinion about Communism in this Debate👏👏👏... All what his saying are true now it's happening around the World the CONSPIRACY regarding the Communist Russia, Red China, North Korea and the OTHERS??? that any ordinary people may not know??? People in the World may begin now to be AWARE, do Research, have better Understanding, start Reading the BIBLE REVELATION PROPHECY, THE BOOK OF JUBILEE, ENOCH, 2nd ESDRAS the answer is already there.
The host is really a mood. That's literally me listening to smart people debating.
AHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
Lmao
Lol yes 😂
hahahaha
That aggresive stare of the host kills me ahahaha
"It doesn't matter if you cause a man to be poor, what makes it worse is if you keep him poor." -Johnny Antillon.
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this is exactly what the capitalist system is doing to the poor of our society and this is why communism is controversial in our society because it offers an alternative economic sytem that might solve the problem of poverty. but the problem is that communists, primarily members of CPP-NPA (not all communists belong to communist organizations) are not willing to give up the armed struggle to achieve their goals which understandably will not be tolerated by any democratic government. the issue today is whether it is consistent with the principles of democracy to suppress members of communist organizations by force if necessary which the opponents of Johnny in this debate think is undemocratic. this is a thorny issue that might divide our society and can result to a civil war. we should really think deeply about the issue specially those who can influence government policies to avoid unnecessary bloodshed in our country.
The problem in the Philippines is that both demo-crazy and comfu-nism are inconsistent with their own principles in some way. Johny is a representive of a democratic country yet here he argues like a dictator, making hasty assumptions and generalization that anyone who joins communist organizations are automatically criminals, and stripping them the freedom to form and join organizations. But I cannot blame him because some communist groups in the Philippines really act like terrorists, who kill even the poor people, which is again inconsistent to the principles of communism. The politics in the Philippines is pretty fucked up. I think the current movement which closely resembles communism is Community Pantries, a money-less system, "you own everything, and at the same you don't own anything", so "you give according to your abilities, and you receive according to your needs". Although, I'm not pro-administration, but I say that they are right to call Community Pantries as communist, but not the terrorist communist, but the ideal communist. And it's amazing how this idea of mutual-aid spread like wildfire across the country. It just tells us something about who the true Filipino is.
It's sad how many Filipinos in the comment section are so proud of him without taking some time to understand what he is actually saying. Fascist. Now, I don't really know who the true Filipino is..
@@psykiem maybe we Filipinos are ideal communists in our innermost being. most of us just don't realize or accept the label communist as a designation because it was demonized by anti-communist propagandists and identified with terrorism in the mindset of the masses. i agree with you that the community pantry movement is a spontaneous expression of true communism. how i wish that this communistic bayanihan spirit does not cease and be creatively expressed in other forms even after the pandemic.
Can somebody tell what does communist exactly means I got confused somehow with the meaning,,:(
You'd like the Indian guy to be leading a country, the filipino guy to head the army, the norweigen guy to head the judiciary. The british guy could become a movie star
underrated comment right here.
Ps. India needs leaders like him
Agree to all except abt the British guy.. He was awesome.. he had the perspective to understand the goodness in communism while the others were blatantly ridiculing communism as an evil...
@@hhnandu it is evil and stupid
Superb comment.
@@hhnandu I totally agree with you cause you cant judge a person just by his thoughts.
Johnny's a realist, while ram is an idealist. they're both outstanding
And at the end of the day Johnny's point stand more correct and practical and he was the only man on that debate who saw it first hand what communism is all about..
@@michaelmanlolo29 there is bad in all them communism and capitalism
Idealism crumbles when applied in the real world with real people in an actual scenario. This is why I hate idealism and virtue signalling. While they're great to hear, they're not really effective and practical. Ram is like a politician who promises the public the best things, speaks the sweetest words that the masses want to hear. Johnny is the real deal who wouldn't accept any bs from anyone, he's like the politician who wants true change and wants to tackle the problem head on.
@@iloveplumpgrannies174 I agree, but I feel realists first originates from an idealistic viewpoint and then morph it to be applicable in society.
ram being ram
Sino na ang na addict sa panunuod dito simula napanuod si Mr. Raul Contreras hahaha
Yay
Ako, hahahaha! Nakakabilib eh!
😁
Ako
Me.me.me
I wish TV stations in the Philippines would start to produce these kind of shows to raise social cognizance about the current taboo issues.
they will not because most of the mainstream media's here in the Philippines are already infiltrated of communist.
@@jeromejosephpama8253 well if you say "most" and not "all", we just need one brave producer to do that. Anw, extremist communism is not the only social issue we have. And we can talk about one after another.
Sharing is not caring
Sharing is communism
Selling is capitalism
Mind blown
#CommunismGood
#CapitalismBad
@@boysteacher3818 Communism like CPP-NPA-NDF is TERRORISM!!
@@boysteacher3818 lmfao
you have to have a background on Ph history to understand Johnny's arguments. I think his position reflects his education. Remember Philippines was colonized by the US, and even after a decade of independence, its influence and presence can still be felt in the country. America weaponized education, and used it to sort of shape the thinking of their "little brown brothers."
amaterasu uchiha read up on US influence and CIA propaganda during Ramon Magsaysay's presidency.
@amaterasu uchiha your name is uchiha
The communists threat is real, only an idiot would not believe it, hukbalahap still exist and operating in the south for God's sake.
The assertion that they are organized is false.
@@newtonia-uo4889 can you explain communism for me?
@@zainbouali6288 a Political doctrine that wants to dissolve statehood and put in place a society wherein the government controls everything
Ito dapat pinag aaksayahan ng oras ng mga pinoy hindi yung mga isyu ng Jamil at mga vloggers na walang kalatoy-latoy ang content.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Tumpak na tumpak.
Tama!
Anyare sa kanila?
Right
True , but what can we do people are more interested in gossips than with actual news and events. Other's still argue that COVID isn't real and just a hoax made but the government..
Why aren't enough people talking about the Indian man? He's soo good.
23:14 he predicts the Sino Soviet split
IKR he’s the best! everyone in this comment section is a massive simp for johnny for some reason. i respect his opinions and he’s clearly very eloquent but the others (at least in my opinion) make much more logical points. also he seems super condescending and simplifies the issues too much.
@@mollydickson1321 exactly.
Johnny is an extremist. People love extremists.
@@Nadie47 nah. Just a reactionary. I respect the guy. That is the same as indian guy talking about British imperialism, because he has seen that shit uk
Ram predicted the Sino Russian split and they laughed at him
An indian said the earth is round few thousand years ago and boy they did laugh that time too!
@@gothaxngel5383 indian said earth is on top of the snake 🐍.
@@gothaxngel5383 Indians also predicted the orbits of planets 😉laugh on dat
@@techihandle And an Indian said that you are on drugs and everybody laughed at that.
@@somyabarwa2916 i am not on drugs but some Indians are who believe in it, many believe elephant head can be transplanted on kids and monkey can eat sun, here you go:
th-cam.com/video/Km2M0Ce8gGc/w-d-xo.html
I wish these debates and interviews should be shown in every school to make students better UNDERSTAND a situation rather than getting offended.
There is your not listening to teacher's I guess it's part of a lesson in subject A .P
people these days are busy figuring out their genders
This video wouldn't help kids understand what's bad about communism. The kids in this video are already in agreement about that, so they don't discuss it. Here, they only discuss how to prevent it from spreading in their countries. So it's not very useful for education.
This is more educational than watching politicians fighting for the throne. This is a very good example of a good debate with learnings.
q1aaaaa
Agree
👍😁
True. I am hook by these old video. I am learning too. I am so lucky(?) I pass by.
Indeed..
Imagine listening to Johnny, Raul, and late Sen. Miriam having a conversation. I could listen to them all day. 😁
I just made a comment like this on another channel for this clip..I reckon it would be a spectacle to watch. Both Johny and senator Miriam has good humor, so aside from being informative it will be entertaining. While on the other hand Raul and if we could add Dennis Normandy are the serious types that will share their actual experiences to give us some roller coaster of emotions.
I was imagining the same thing😁☺️☺️
@@eddaayuste5439 I think Raul and Dennis will show us their funny side if this happens.
No. Did MDS stand against communism? No.. So, it is irrelevant to compare or relate Johnny to Mirriam. I think Johnny's character is more relatable to Duterte, because the former is actually erradicating the NPA-NDF-CPP
Agree...
This is the true Filipino accent, not mimicking that of the US. Love it I hope you are still alive now Mr. Johnny.
His accent is very authentic. Filipino accent.
I agree.
Sadly, he passed away in 2010.
@@Shibaharoo awww. How did u know? Source pls?
@@viviantan2079 yes my dad's comment.
I think Filipino is really making sense when you talk about communism and how to handle it. What an insight from him.
Johnny in his thesis defense with the 3 panels.
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hahhhahahha
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Hahaha. My thought exactly.
Johnny is the man. He's talking to a group of people who doesn't understand what they are talking about. Hahahahaha. They keep running around the idea. Here comes India representative, still the same, tries to outshine everyone and believed he is the best of everything.
1:47 "Well i will not sit here like a prophet and tell you what to do about your own problem." - Johnny Antillon, Philippines
😂😂 dayummn
Savage
😅😅😅😅
Tama lalo na Social Media ngayon
in deed
"There are more ways of cutting a throat than simply drawing a knife across it."
Bring back these meaningful debates.
This is so gold
Sadly, people were just too stubborn to accept it saying that you can't compare that blah blah blah.
so true
People think about topics to tackle before people nowadays just focus on debunking and cancelling things they don't like even if it makes sense.
Liked the logic of Philipino guy.. freedom has its limits. That rattle snake example was awesome. He reminds of Chanakya, the greatest Indian visionary, who created Mauryan empire from Afghanistan till Myanmar
Chanakya lived in ancient times and thought only in terms of preserving the state's power, because back then the state was the nation. His methods today would be dictatorial. Johnny is morally wrong here.
@@earningzekrom4173 How is Johnny morally wrong?
Radical Indians wet dream
@@earningzekrom4173 When it is about interest of nation, there is no moral compass. We have seen how countries have either sided with aggressors or kept quiet because doing so was in their national interest. Being an Indian myself, I have seen how idealism like that of Ram in our early post independence political history has messed up things for us. Gandhi / Nehru gave away best resources and lands of great value to enemy states of China and Pakistan, example: Lahore city to Pakistan, Indus water treaty which gives 80% water to Pakistan, Tibet and mount Kailash to to Chine, UNSC permanent member seat to China and many more blunders
@@earningzekrom4173 your comprehension is pitiable
"There are more ways of cutting a throat than simply drawing a knife across it" - Johnny Antillon
This is remarkable.
Exactly!
@@osamabinladen824 lmao
@@masteroogway3040 What
I read it while he said it 😆
Jajajaja
These videos are addicting. These kids talked more sense than today’s politician.
if we shifted into parliamentary we have this kind of debate in government and we can see whoo has wisdom and that way we can choose wisely as voters and avoid some bobo politicians
I agree!!!
I know, right?
correct
i agree
Everyone is praising Phillippinion guy but I can tell you the Indian guy is the most collected, logical and human centered.
Filipino guy is just better looking that's why people giving him extra brownie points. Just read comments despite Indian guy is speaking much better still he is getting all the hatred because Filipino guy is hot according to comment section. (I respect that Filipino guy i am just talking about people on comment section)
Because Philippine is america's kept country.
He was ahead of his times ⏲️
Well, they all tried to gang up against the Philippino guy but they can't catch him. He is too smart for them and the most add-up point is his common sense.
@@veronicast5295 how is he more smart than the others? I don't find him the smartest, he just put his point in a aggressive way, that's it.
I think the difference here, is that Johnny's arguments were more realistic while the others are quite idealistic. During this time, the Ph is combating blatant communism, communists were shamelessly doing immoral acts, I think Johnny's arguments were just based off from actual experience.
I TOTALLY AGREE!!!
Real Fact👍
Well said!!
Not realistic, just indoctrinated. The US has a long history of propaganda against communism
Mind you, these boys or men are HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS probably between 15-18 years old. Dang, they are equipped with knowledge....They were sent to NYC for debate/symposium with 32 other countries. I believe this was an annual event. The Filipino guy was just 16 y/o.
Well here in the Philippines during that time, a 16 yo should already be in college or in their last year of high school depending if they went to school early or not.
Well I'm pretty sure every country participated chose their best and most knowledgeable student they have.
Also since communism is a big issue at that time it is kinda the commen knowledge of the time to know about the topic, if we have this annual event I'm pretty sure they will either talk about covid-19 or the race issue in America and the world.
no worries we have tiktok stars in philippines younger than them.
@@FrankToasty Oh yeah, the K-12 system wasn't there at the time. The K-12 curriculum happened in the Philippines in I guess around 2015-2016. No wonder teenagers in the Philippines were more well mannered before, since usually they start college about 16-17 years old. They're pretty young to get a job at that time too.
@@iceshake3950 the essence of teaching and the generation as well is progressively slacking
The difference between what they know of communism was that the Philippines was literally fighting with communists at the time, while the rest (as stated earlier) was fighting with the idea of it.
Dayum right! Ibagsak ang mga NPA!
And untill now it’s the same
So true
Exactly! But I understand the point of Johnny and the other 3 gentlemen. The problem was that the movement of communism in PH at that time was different with the other countries, you see communism with other countries secretly lurking in the high position of society trying to influence other influential people with their idea to overthrow the government and install their own idea of society which is communism (because they had money, they had own men to do dirty jobs). While here, the communist was literally fighting with their idea and also being used as a pawn by their higher-ups.
Agree!
Let us not be biased, but these gentlemen did their task well. It would be highly appreciated if this kind of program returns in our present world.
Johnny(The Philippines) was right to say that an individual should be criminalized and be persecuted for his/her participation in an act of which any nation finds unlawful. In the context where Johnny said " the minute a man joins a society with a purpose of killing, and cutting your throat, he became a traitor to that society ", that is one of the many reasons that there is now a law against being a part of any terrorist group.
I wanted to say Johnny was way ahead of his time and some of his opponents, but that would be an insult to their generation. Our generation now has diminished greatly that most, if not all, individuals of our time are inclined to contend in a debate but without the failure of attacking or taking the rebuttal personally.
cheers to that. better to sacrifice a few for the better of many
What must be done is punishing the intent in a way that this appropriate for such. As long as the intent can be established in physical evidences that support the existence of such.
Impressive! To think high school pa sya pero yung knowledge nya pang judge na. Kakabilib ang education nuon.
I think Johnny has more brains than some members of our senate.
You almost got it but didn't you notice what they are talking about is communism and NOT TERRORISM. Unfortunately, that is where Johnny seemed to be wrong. He even said that communists are already traitors. Not all people with communism ideals are terrorist and this is what the other boys are trying to explain! The Norwegian even said that you would loose the beneficial principles of communism if you outlaw it. And the British is indeed correct that it is a lazy solution!
'You cannot persecute the group as a whole if some individual persons are criminals'. That Norwegian is on point!
I love how he proudly nailed his own Filipino accent. ♥ 👍
Hahaha yes proud Filipino here💞
hehehe 😁😁 filipino here
I agree his accent s very Filipino 👍👍👍
@Juna Mae Anniversario Spanish with a hint of an American political mentality..hehehe #PinoyColonizations
classic accent of filipino better than norway Robot accent hahaha
That lady staring Johnny like a shining star 🌟
i feel her
the lady facilitator getting inlove with johny😂😂😂😂
Napopogian siguro
She wants Johnny sooooo bad.
Lol 😂
It's really impressive how intelligent, polite the students are and the instructor.... almost makes me sad, I don't know if students of today could be so informed
I don't think so. Most of the younger generations and students right now are fond of TikTok and other social media. It's far way different now.
I think you also have to understand that these kids must be from prestigious universities and come from privileged families. If you compare overall generation from today and the past then i think today's generation is smarter. We can't just generalise the entire generation by the use of tiktok. Not everyone uses tiktok, atleast not in India. Many kid use internet for their education too. Many kid in India uses Internet to become the engineer, doctor, administrative officer and many other things. Also, many people in past didn't had enough opportunities or resources to educate themselves. As far as i talk about India's young generation, our problem is brain drain since our government is not providing better social and financial security or infrastructure to our top minds & that cost the country lots of money since they study in government institutions like Indian institute of technology and AIIMS. Many Indian CEO from international companies are from IIT.
It's amazing how much they knew about global politics and communism without the internet. Most 16 year olds I knew in the late-90s were mostly oblivious to geo politics and communism beyond slogans from musicians.
I love how the lady is just so invested and interested in everything she's hearing, she's definitely a mood
*learning their views on things. She is a moderator on this debate. She most possibly already knows the stuff and has her own knowledgeable opinions on the topics these kids have discussed here
The Indian guy was the most outstanding in his depth and understanding of Issue at hand, and was more mature than all the other 3 combined. He put his points across clearly and also lectured the other candidates, without mincing words. The Filipino guy was very pragmatic and direct and his solutions were the most practical. Very nice debate indeed!
Dude his solution to communism was straight out execution, how in earth is that practical
@@seriouslydok5645 Historically, it has been done before, hundreds of times! Revolutions or changes are violent.
@@tushkoli yes and as Ram said extreme action towards communism is another type of communism ...
@P Pierre i don't know to which country you belong, but i live in India and in India no minority is punished for being minority, with muslims the only issue is they keep religion above everything even above their nation, not all but most, and i even don't know why i called them minority they are second in majority
@@dj-ux1jr B. S
This is what happened when you argue to some people who have a lot of opinions but don't have an actual experience of communists . I stand with Johnny.
Alam ni jonny kung paano manggago ang mga kumunista alam niya kung paano pumasok ang mga kumunista sa systema ng lipunan, halos lahat ng systema sa bansa napasok na ng mga kumunista, may kumunista sa gobyerno mayroon sa showbiz mayroon din sa mga civilian groups at sa mga negosyo
@@crashercrasher9696 TAMA ka LAHAT Communist na,, pati simbahan MAYRON na rin ata, TINGNAN mo kung gaano SILA ka involved sa Rally at against sa Government, Hindi nga dapat kasali at hiwalay sila.
@@Lightstar73 uu nakalimutan ko banggitin may alam akong madre na membro pala ng Npa tas may guro din membro ng npa, so napakalawak ng impluwensyang napasok ng kumunista sa systema ng lipunan ganyan sila katindi manggago sa taumbayan
Tama..
@@sallydum-ay7942 hahahhahahaha
"the animal instincts are far more fundamental than the human instincts", "you can't defend democracy by losing it" and so many more wise comments! What a wonderful discussion and debate! I can't get enough of it.
The Filipino guy is to smart that the lady is stopping him to give chance to others to speak😂
I wanna actually hear him speak in another language
He's eating the other guys.
@@nanatinkey5290 Tagalog
too smart
@@acuinivannereom.beed1c396 and he makes sense. Ram is talkative too but nahhh
Who wants more of Johnny Antallon's videos? Im now addicted to his videos. Who's with me?
#KMJS please find Johnny for us.
#kmjs
#kjms
ahaha
He's already dead.
@@sahalperen7103 sadly
The title should be "everyone vs a filipino man",
And the filipino guy is giving them good counter arguements. Damn he's good
Indeed
He?
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indeed its true and i believe that filipino people are naturally born intellectual
@@Brewster92 nope
they are speaking according to their realities so it is well anticipated that they won't understand each other. but a reasonable solution is the catch of this show and Johnny already nailed his stand.
Hi, I'm Filipino but my mom's ethnicity is Japanese . I just wanted to share what my dad had told me. My dad was born in Butuan City 1954 during this particular time that Johnny participated as an exchange student. What my dad told me, during his schooling that our country had "current events" subject or discussion where they gather newspapers discussing it everyday and archive it for an entire year. It was part of their curriculum that's why highschool students in the early 1950s, 1960s and 1970s were super aware of what's going on, in their society despite of the lesser technology compared to what we have today.. My mom is Japanese born in the Philippines.. despite the war our country received Japanese naturalized to Filipinos to our society.. Our countrymen were that forgiving and open to people who embraced our culture.
And who tf asked?
@@johnrobertpasquel4290 this is a very useful fun fact. Very informative. Then there's you with your comment, a very evidence of what happened wrong with our school curriculum.
@@johnrobertpasquel4290your reply proves that some of the millenials today have no respect to the opinion of others. stupid reply!!
@@johnrobertpasquel4290 "I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WHAT MY DAD HAD TOLD ME" Aren't you reading?
I'm a gen z not millennial...
The Indian and Filipino seemed to be the most prepared and knowledgeable with regards to the subject in comparison to others
Although Johnny sometimes does seem a bit extreme but we need a mix of his aggression and rams calm and empathic nature to tackle problems such as these
Onizuka sensei😃
Johnny can be perfect for leading a army but to lead a county especially a democratic country u need people like ram
Empathetic? He defended the caste system. He clearly doesn't have much empathy if he wants to keep people poor.
I mean anyone would be cautious & defensive against any ideology if its members are running around the countryside and provoking it's citizens.
Agreed. Although I don't quite follow Ram's argument on caste and communism.
It doesn't matter whether you cause a man to be poor, what makes it worse is you keep him poor. -Johnny
👏👏👏 Definitely!!!
Business Man and Corrupt/incompetetive Politicians in the PHILIPPINES🔆🔅
"I think that all these three people are naive" - Johnny Antillon 🙌
I love Philippines in this. He was rocksolid and well spoken. They kept trying him but he wasnt having it.
The Filipino guy just proved that intelligence is attractive
I think he has the Marcos' ideology, to kill all leftists instead of opening a conversations for equality and peace.
@@renzoviray3480 actually no. If you watched other videos he talked about something else.
@@renzoviray3480 OH please stop glamourizing the lefties.
yes that's true some or most women atracted to them,but 2nd only to someone looks.
Agree
Johnny is well knowledgeable about the government system, how every branch of the government works as the constitution mandates.
Unlike some woke leftist who easily fall prey to fake news sources
He sounds more like a politician than a high school student
Even so like a lawyer.
I think he is a lawyer nabasa kolang sa mga comments may law firm sya now
@@jamesrocket5616 sounds more of a right wing conservative to me
I love Johnny the most! He’s very realistic compared to Ram that’s crazily idealistic, probably because he had actual experiences with communism, that’s why he came out aggressive but I understand him! Just because someone is more aggressive doesn’t make his points less valid! This is something that people need to understand. Also, just because someone is calmer, doesn’t make his points more valid and make him more “logical”.
But Ram is highly intelligent! So admirable!
On point
True! I’m with Johnny! ✨🙌🏼
But if you accept your experience as the only truth, then it reduces the importance of your argument.
You must be a Westerner to say that he's an idealist. If you know the imperialist history of America, you know well how hypocritical the west can be. Just recently, look at the way they are portraying Ukraine. Vice and BBC were making documentaries about Neo n@&i$ in Ukraine that overthrew the govt and now the same people are the most angelic human beings who can do no wrong. The Indian man KNOWS BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN while the Filipino, being colonised by Americans and because of his own history, has an extremist view.
19:29 "it doesn't matter if you cause a man to be poor, what makes it worse is if you keep him poor" that was a real blow. Ram was correct but he would have almost lost to Peter if Johnny didn't put in this argument. He put Peter in his own trap. Well played.
Peter as most British people keep believing that British imperialism in India did no harm to the country.
@@MrGdsuta That's what they are taught since childhood.
Yeh i love Philippine for that single interpretation
That's what the Philippine Dictator did.. to keep its citizens Poor and Decrease its Budget for Education (1972 Budget for educ BSP) so that they will remain Poor & ignorant just like in North Korea. Brain washed them & change History. Just like what they did now in spreading Disinformation reason Corruption returned w/ Two Family Dictators.
I want to be a "Johny" in this world full of so called "youtube influencers".
Uncle Johnny was based before the rest of us
Mag aral ka.
panis sila ke Johnny!
maging presidente ka
Dreaming is nothing but a mere illusion without action. Start reading, start studying so you can be like him.
I like how the woman is just listening and is enjoying the whole discussion like I am
Edit: lol thanks for the likes. Didn't expect it to get into a 100
Edit: it reached 200 now.
That's me in a group project🤣🤣
@@bellapallon1033 LMAOOOOO YEAHHHH
Bella Pallon hahhaha yep
Actually she kept interrupting Johnny
@@somvongvanaksetha3862 as much as she wants to listen to Johnny,they have given time to speak.
Extraordinary.. I love this kind of events.. Different nationalities are sharing thoughts about common problems.. But at the same time it makes me realise how very far I am from being educated.. Indeed, I think I agree with some comments that we are really evolving backwards..
Love how Johnny carries himself as an equal to those from advanced countries. This was the time when we Filipinos did not look down on ourselves as a poor country but a newly liberated one with a bright future ahead of us.
On point, I hundred per cent agree with you. Phil. Media plays a big role with all this negativity.
Yeah . Fed up with Filipino reps to international shows always with pitiful drama effect intros. Must learn to be dignified and confident like this Johnny.
Sudden changes when Aquino's took the crown.
Maunlad pa PH dito. I don't think we're far behind
Oum kase nuon mayaman talaga pinas hindi pa nakikitang poor kase halos kasabay palang natin noon ang mga bansang maunlad na ngayon kasabay natin sila noon kung pano palang papalago ang bansa until the end of Marcos at dumating na mga Aquino ayon bukod sa bumagsak tayo at ang Ekonomiya naiwan at naistuck na tayo kung saan ang iba ay paangat ng paangat habang tayo naipit na at hindi na nakaaangat buti nalang du30 now umuunlad na tayo rising Tiger economics of Asia hindi pa huli ang lahat 😇❤️🇵🇭
It is expected that India and Philippines would stand out on this debate as both parties/countries experienced oppression and poverty. They were exposed to different issues and sees a lot more than ideas because of their countries' situations.
@@christiankyle1002 ?? india was colonized by Britain for a very long time and the Philippines was colonized by Spain - thats how the name of the country came - from King Philip of Spain
@@christiankyle1002 broo 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
The rattlesnake metaphor is so good. What happened to our education system since then. :(
He's not exactly studying in the Philippines per say, but yes. Philippines back then was indeed something.
@@tan3062 Now people do nonsense shit like duos gaming or girlfriend breakup fights. People seldom study. Nor do they at least watch the news or self-inform via helpful forums.
I hope the upcoming generation of (what I expect and observe) educated Filipinos can occupy the government seats and start making changes, especially in the development of the young, drifting them away from somewhat toxic levels of "fun", like the said ones at the top.
I blame tiktok
@@rubberducky2365 Hahaha
@@rubberducky2365 hahaa
Every word that comes out of the mouth of the Philippine's representative is on point. Like literally on point. Very intellectual.
the way johnny speaks reminds me of late miriam defensor santiago.. I'm literally getting goosebumps
more like late Justice Serafin Cuevas ❤️ I love them both tho
@@dhayabris3163 grabe. tumayo balahibo ko, sabi ko, parang si serafin cuevas lang tong taong to. good thing pareho tau ng iniisip. haha
Do you guys have any links of serafin cuevas debates? I would love to watch him
@@KickBatotskie22 pre, search mo yung justice corona's impeachment, serafin cuevas. check mo paano niya nilampaso mga kalaban. the best and the brightest,, considering his age na rin. former justice din kasi siya.
No, more like Late Ferdinand Marcos. Both of them never pause or think what to say, and all what's coming out of their mouth are pure solid intelligence. I'm not saying Madam Miriam isn't smart, she is really smart but I was talking about how they compose their thoughts and laid them out so damn clear. Watch Marcos interviews, you'd be amazed how almost identical they are - Johnny and Macoy.
Indian here 🙏, in very beginning I supported Ram (Indian person) as he mentioned about freedom of expression under democracy, but later when I listened more carefully, Johnny from Phillipines, is speaking from more closer experience compared to other boys.
His conviction is stronger than other boys there, but Ram also mentioned that communism in India is more rampant among educated, compared to weaker section of society, which holds truth in present 2021. Communism, leftism in India is artificial and never was organic. Communism is a tool of anti nationalists, extremists in present times.
But overall, again hats off to gentlemenship of boys in this debate, much better than present debaters 👍
Actually your are not fully correct ini india instead of communism socialism spread between poor
Which led to socialism movement like ( JP movement) and give
Birth to parties
Like
SP, RJD, JDU , JDS , RLD
India had socialist leader like
Jay prakash narayan and ram. Manohar lohiya
indian communist party is just puppet of china
I just a saw a clip of one of debates and ended up binge watching all of the debates like this during 1950s
same gurl, same
well I guess I'm not the only one hahahaha
hahaha you're not the only one
Lol... Ako din.
90s or 50s?
"You buy your bread, and sell your freedom, but the moment you have your bread you want your freedom back". -Ram
Powerful words.
ram got it right, now where is that freedom the norwegian guy talking about? hmmm. Communist is so nasty, that their is no good guys in it.
hi, can you please explain those words to me for i am still young and i dont get the connection of the bread and freedom
@@haO_Oh selfishness.. that's the mentality of communism..
@@haO_Oh it is exactly what it means
@@motoporn9055 capitalism benefits greed, communism doesn’t
I really like how theyre calm while arguing about a real serious topic meanwhile today if you say something slightly offensive it would lead to violence
Indeed. People seem to have forgotten that offense is taken and not given.
@@stephenturner757 sorry bro. Imma steal that.
And if they dont like your statement they will say to you stupid guy . 😂
Sadly. It's fun to talk about these things as you get different perspectives, but then, others would take it personally and say stupid things about you.
Maybe because those guys were genius, they don't need violence to win
Johnny was way ahead of the members in this debate. I like how a debater he is, he is very calm yet the message he wishes to portray is clear and on point. I can really tell his love for his fellow Filipinos, indeed Filipino Pride.
Yeah most people nowadays are spoiled by too much Democracy too much Freedom. Cmon guys don't be a spoiled brat learn to be obedient and law abiding citizens. Kill those who destroy the society. No need to be afraid if you are doing nothing bad
@@maharlika9809 OMEGALUL.. what freedom are u talking about
@@eleventh3559 too much freedom will lead you just like rally,If everyone had unlimited freedom, there would be no protections every one will go killing each other because of to much freedom, no restriction and no discipline you know what will happens to a country if that will be happend
Even Marcos say Filipino need discipline because look at today in our country there is no discipline.
This is my opinion.
@@chockshurleyp.landrito616 yeah too many people in philippines are spoiled and lazy, and want's everything in their favor like what their parent's do to them spoil them like special childs and as a result their attitudes become salty specialy those high class family
little did Mr. johnny Antillon know, he would be so famous and a lot would praise him this generation because of his wiseness here
Yeah, bakit ngayon lang siya narecognize ano?
What is he doing right now? Still alive of leaving his legacies
@@umiismyname4142 well that's something we don't know because that's from 1956 and my grandpa is like 3 years old in 1956. so maybe he is alive without any disease or condition right? If he is lucky to be alive today...there is a war during those days..
@@jishkisan4661 He unfortunately died in 2010.
@@umiismyname4142 i read one of this video debate of him uploaded by someone, he was a professor 1 of the university in the Philippines called UP - UNIVERSITY OF THE PHIL.
These young brilliant minds were ahead of their time. The Indian boy is the reflective judge, the Filipino boy is the activist leader, the Norwegian boy had the conscience of a great legislator, and the British is his pretty errand boy.
"I cannot believe that a man have the mind of a worm, that he would be so spineless that he would not rebel against the position in which society puts him" - Johnny, at this point india got destroyed by Johnny
2021 and his statement is still relevant.
deep
Smart discussion
The Indian delegate seems trying to blame everything on British imperialism. It may or may not be true. But one thing is certain is that, British imperialism is already non existent at that time. And the casts system has still been practiced at that time particularly in the villages which is one of the root causes of poverty in India. And yet still he is forcing his way that British imperialism still the root of poverty and communism in India.
@@andromedaplay9294 what if British were ruled by Indian, and you called Indians as your masters? And what if British people were sent to fight battles from Indian side... And during famines in Britain, left over crops be exported to India since we are battling our enemy.. Wouldn't all these developments have any toll on Britishers in this hypothetical situation? Blaming everything on caste system wouldn't support your debate of the communal toll we have paid and are still paying whereas Britishers got top notch services then
23:33 Dude predicted the Sino-Soviet split
intelligent guy
But now Chinese are communist breeding ground
@@soundsofdays7459 communism is a world wide failure, in all its essence even communists dont practice communism bcz to force ppl into giving all their property to everyone else u ll have to practically use non civil methods. and in the name if communism only the govts get thos properties. so while the very ideal of communism is not wrong but how, behind its visage the ppl that preached it practiced it, we can surely agree with the filipino guy, but then again, u wanna punish criminals not the idea or those that simply believe in it.
@Tomas "Tom Jones" Diones insects in your mouth 😂😂......China still China in 2020 at 60 +yrs....only Taiwan now also wanna get out....
@Tomas "Tom Jones" Diones after another 25 years all Chinese sent to mars by India in single rocket =)
I can see the standard and the quality produced by the education system back then, compared to today's system is like worlds apart. I can't help but sigh. Lungkot lang.
you can blame it to the failed generation that produced today's bad government
This is from an international meeting of some of the smartest school students in the world at the time, not representative of education as a whole
BOOMERS!🤣
Imagining myself being put in that situation makes me wanna shrivel and die.
Pero putang ina, if we had that type of person in our government we would not have a problem in our education now.
The filipino guy was so right with this one.
" This is why I'm fond of saying that one of the best ways of treating a communist is to make him a capitalist."
This is what exactly happened to China and Vietnam-now socialist capitalist
Johnny sounded like a professor lecturing his students.
Agree
So true...lol
😂😂🇵🇭🇵🇭👏👏
Bias. He has so many valid points but some of it are wrong.
@@arielmcdowny2367 😅😂 if you were bias yourself too. Then you will conclude he was bias. 😅
Who's this moderator? I have watched a handful of these debates and I appreciate how much attention she pays to each debater.
Same
Mrs. Helen Waller
Thank you.
I liked Ram and Johnny... It's sad because we never listen to people screaming out about communists and how they are taking over. The Peter guy literally said, "I won't listen to the word produced, I won't hear that word caused.... Maintained to a lesser degree. " He was so annoyed at the opinion that his country produced communism to another country. He completely wanted to block out someone else's views....We are currently dealing with Peter multiplied by millions in the USA.
The problem in the USA is that everyone has their own version of communism. Ask different people to define communism and they will have different answers, depending on the politician or celebrity that they favor. You can't get rid of the problem if the whole country can't even agree on what the exact definition of the word is.
And😂 i wonder what the heck went wrong with teens of our generation. Pure calibre and confidence at such a young age 👏🏻
Today, tiktok happened.
@@dwighthoward54321 ITS A COINCIDENCE I WATCHED A DOCUMENTATION ABOUT THE DISTURBING REASON WHY CHINA’s version of TikTok is different from the worldwide’s version and went back to this video I downloaded about debate on how to handle communism. China’s TikTok is educational while ours has a big influence on the youth showing us foolish content that goes viral and makes us go into trend with it especially TIKTOK is such an addictive app that children spend their time on it 1/3 of the time they have everyday to keep up with the app. Everyday, that app makes children less and lesser intelligent. The reason why TikTok was banned in India was probably to prevent their generation to be affected with the plan of China with the addictive app to the present generation.
The olden days the teaching are excellent, no one will speak in Tagalog except when Tagalog lesson subject.
@@dwighthoward54321 true, brain is on internet LGBTQ and abortion debate by middle age people,sex on the internet, drugs and violence.
in my opinion the mother hen is away working abroad and father stays at home busy with something else,late 1970's ,early 1980 's went to work abroad and this generation head bow into cellphone and computer ,,like living in their own world ,not much social inter action
The difference between Johnny and the other boys is that Johnny has experienced communism while other boys has an idea about communism.
True
Right
So very true
Couldn't agree more.
True.
19:36 "there was some education system put into India" That's what they want you to believe. *There already was a well established education system within India.* People knew how to read and write. It was just like any other European country from that time where only rich had his privilege while poor were struggling.
Totally agreed..the brit was adamant to accept the wrong doings of thier country , shame on imperial countries who became rich by leeching on other countries blood
Before British invasion literacy rate in India was very very high but English under Lord macaulay changed the medium of instruction and suddenly India had to start from zero literacy rate from which they have not been able to recover even until today atleast in Pakistan!!
@@TheGoldenarm3 Please cite the source where it says the literacy was high in India before British rule?
@@jeshuamalraj7744 Literacy defined by British you mean?
Also I would go for before" Mughal Invasion" And also you can still see cultural effect on lifestyle in Southern parts of India that had little Mughal interference.
@@anilmishra5947 Bruh literacy means that you can read and write.It doesn't matter who defined it, all I asked for was source for that man's statement
Imagine the gap in the depth these high schoolers versus the high schoolers of today's era.
True, when I was in High school, even our valedictorian doesn’t have this kind of mentality🤣🤣🤣🤣✌🏼
Stfu why are u even comparing an average highschool student to someone in the top of the food chain..
F*ck off. I was not talking about knowledge, I was talking about depth. So I do not know where your "average" came from.
In today’s time, you can’t barely find high school teenagers taking about politics with that same depth of ideas. It’s not really the top of the food chain kinda concept, its just that kids way back are so into issues like politics and how government should work.
@@bethd93 I agree with you. These high schoolers came out of war - and not just any war but the second world war, so their mindset was formed out of a different paradigm. And as my grandfather is saying, kids back then doesn't really have a lot of "distraction" from the technology like we have right now, so they mostly spend their thinking time aspiring for a better society, because it was tough times then. They don't travel as much as we do now, doesn't spend their time playing games, engaging in social media, etc. And the only source of information they can easily have is thru publications (newspapers, magazines, books) which often talks about current affairs, unlike now where information (both the good ones and the trash) is blasted thru the internet. And right now, an issue trends for a week or so and then it stops trending, but back then (as my grandfather claims) a trending issue often stays for a very long while, years- which I say adds depth to one's understanding, the longer everyone discourses about an issue, the deeper the understanding on it would be.
I appreciate this version of debate. It looks like a conversation than a competition.
Thumbs up sa mga naaaddict manuod nito. Yung 26 minutes na video na to parang ang ikli lang kasi napa interesting na topic bukod pa doon marami ka pang matututunan.
Kaya nga eh
Fun fun
Sobrang nakakaadik
Bitin ang 26 min
Mapapa google ka sa mga sinasabi nila. 😃
The British student feels so attackd when blamed for poverty in india😂😂...And he said British united India.. Dude it got me laughing soo hard.. 😂
Totally agree with u
😆must be an awkward situation
Exactly
@@d-katsu8931 Yeah it must suck being the British student in the debate with India blaming the Brits but they strayed way off-topic. India should not talk about British Imperialism because with or without the Brits, communism would still exist.
How did Britain not unite India?
Wow Philippines is so eloquent! Philippines will never run out of talented and intelligent people, but we were swallowed by politics.
Indeed
thanks god, tapos yan kay sen manny
By tiktok
@@GwenAllyssor HAHAHAHAHAHAHA NAGPAPATAWA KA BA
@@GwenAllyssor sorry? In what way tho?
Naive indeed. It's a conspiracy! Despite explaining it as simple as Johnny could, the other three failed to understand. He knew it so well. There are no contradicting ideas. While his stand on the topic cannot be applied in today's time, it's definitely the answer back then. Just want to highlight as well that while Johnny doesn't seem calm, he is. Ram only has a deep voice but he's definitely gritting his teeth to argue equally to Johnny. It's that deep voice and accent that some of the people from the comment section are focusing on. You can also tell how Johnny doesn't pick on anyone, he will support your idea if he agrees to it, just like how he piggyback nay even corrected that the British MAINTAINED (produced) part.
Yes I finally find someone who think smartly I fully agree I stressed myself with bunch naive fools keep praising without understanding the real protagonist here!
Comunist support ram lol
In the end, the British boy described communism as freedom of expression????? Did I hear it right?
Basically Ram is less aggressive. He wasn't reacting to attacks. Johnny was better at that because he didn't take attacks sitting down. However, he went very aggressive on communism. I understand that his country was going through a communist problem but asking to outlaw communism is not correct. If that were the argument, the same can be said about Islam. Muslims keep maintaining that Muslims are together a brotherhood irrespective of their nation. Sometimes foreign agents (sponsored by an Islamic country) are offered shelter by local Muslims. By the same logic, Islam should be banned in non-Muslim countries. And yet a small criticism of Islam invokes violent reprisals and cancellation from all. Why can't we give the same dignity to someone who holds communist ideals?
Johnny knows what he's talking that's why he's so firm.
3 vs 1 but I am with the Filipino... whose with us ... I know we are many😌✊
It's actually Johnny vs the three guys
Yes i agree
in my opinion it seems like three against one, this debate, and actually im a big fan of johnny
Oops - just wrote the same thing before I read these comments. Stan!
WAG NA KAU MAG ENGLISH LOOL PINOY LAHAT DITO NAKAKAHIYA GRAMMAR NYU!
@@joemama8243 Idiot. How did you assume that everyone here is Pinoy? Also if my grammar was wrong correct me where I'm wrong instead of complaining like a moron. Your statement is just full of ignorance.
They might be experiencing the conflict of each countries especially after early years after WWII and it must be on point but truly frustated at the exact time for them, how clever they were and how open minded to keep calm and use their brain and human sense to debate with each other
You can very much see how enthused Mrs. Waller is when its Johnny speaking. Like she's saying, "This kid gets this shit juicy and doped" 😂
Yes, she was having fun when Johnny is talking. Very spontaneous.
right??? the way she looks at Johnny 😅
15:07 Ram: "The basic assumption is that poverty and illiteracy produces communism but paradoxically, the communism is more rampant in educated people, among the rich people, and among the minorities" so true. It was in 1956 and it's 2021 and these words still stand.
Especially in case of India.
It would have been excellent if the delegates were asked what each of them meant by "communism" because they may have been arguing about different things.
I remember when i was elementary 1982 when i was grade 1 ..our place was terrible i had experience of war i was terrifying saw a lot of dies armies and civillian lying down everywhere we walking and passby i was crying and im very scared we have to evacuate the place ..it was terrible that experience ..our life was missirable because of war ..im not agree of communism horrible and terrible ...
@@elmabansig5634 I'm so sorry to hear that. 🙁 I hope you're in a much better situation now. Peace and joy to you and your loved ones!
@@AgoristsRising Yes, they should've started the debate all in common grounds. Because their definition of communism might be different.
The Philippino boy is such smart guy with a strong argument and good understanding of the political tensions and systems of that time. Their discussions is quite interesting and educative for those of us watching. I am very impressed with their method of debating. But more importantly, the moderator...That Lady is such a gem and an amazing host for the students. Our Teachers can learn a lot from that lady. Way to go moderators.
Debates before: "COMMUNISM"
Debates now: "GIVING PASSWORD OF YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS TO YOUR GF/BF"
Sounds like us Filipinos.
@@pongangelo2048 Yeah, I am a filipino too and that's our topic of our debate when I was in senior high school🤷
This guys are way better than todays politicians. Johnny, Philippines needs you now!
its rare to find politician like this now in ph after 1980's american principle and policy influence much..
@@raycdo2012 i came to the Philippines to escape american ideals as today they have forsaken God and are under God's judgment but, more and more I see filipinos also encouraging disrespectful behavior and are going the way of America to sadly. At least in manilla.
@@troywardjr1216 manila is the shithole of philippines lmao the poverty there is prominent and most criminals are from there.You should go to province
Ipahanap natin kay jessica #kmjs
@@troywardjr1216 some of our country men are adopting the liberated American ideals. Hollywood and other American movies or series such as netflix, hayu, KUWTK has great influence to Filipino teens. If they can't live in the American dream, they will stick to Plan B , which is to adopt toxic, disrespectful American behaviour.
Wow, they tried to gang up against the Philippines but they can't catch him. He is too sleek and smart, using a lot of common sense!
Hot Damm right. I love getting into intellectual debates. I slay my opponents on literally any topic. And my cousin can out debate me.
Yeah right
Not really, his argument against communism is mostly demonizing communism like its made by Satan. Although he is well-versed and informed in the general system of the government and up to times with his own government, he has a horrible characterization and attitude as shown by his dismissiveness, arrogance and own ignorance. He cooperates at time but mostly goes on on demonizing communism and causing arguments due to semantic misunderstanding (as he constantly create analogies to explain/defend his stance between complex situation to really simple situations).
@@boysteacher3818 the thing is johnny has experienced communism while the others only have theories.
@@boysteacher3818 At least his stance is clear unlike the other debaters like India, UK, and the other one. Their stance is half-hearted and lukewarm without clarity. On one hand, they are pro-democratic while the other is pro-communism. In debate, you have to take a stance and have the ability to defend it. Just like in court, you can't be the defender of the victim yet sympathize with the perpetrator. That is confusing and F up!
Simula ng mapanood ko yung debate ni RAUL ng travel time na ako Haha feel me? 😂
Yeahss..hahaha
Ako sad tol bwhahaha grabi time travel natin
I feel you hahaha
Yes....I love to stay here, and I want more. Raul is such an opening for me.
SAME
the indian guy wants to solve it ethicaly while the filipino guy wants to solve it directly 😂😂
Both are applicable, and actually solves the issue. During that time, communism has already taken a huge part of our society and our people. Direct action is needed otherwise our country will become a communist nation especially when they already have some members who were politicians and even a couple senators were suspected to be part of the communist rebels.
I'm india but that filipino guy was correct. India is still facing naxalism maoism problem till this day even after trying to solve it diplomatically. Philippines is facing similar problem@@arkyudetoo9555
The teacher obviously enjoy listening to this brilliant and intelligent students coming from different countries..
Noticed that too. She is so captivated by her students. Definitely a signal of a good educator.
It's not about the accent, it's about being a Filipino, Being Jhonny. Very very Impressive! Ang Sarap maging Filipino👌
Yahh that's correct, is not about accent.
His accent was classy
I like his accent though. The words are very clear.
"ang sarap maging pilipino" lmao
😆
Damn Johnny guy is smart. This vid is gold, lucky I found it.
Ya
I salute to Johnny who's more serious about how to stop communism. He's a bold guy
i feel that the solution that johnny proposed was not good enough...why because when you outlaw a certain community, you are disillusioning them from the society and thats what democracy prohibits. A similar situation was there in india too where there was a community named untouchables, no one was supposed to touch them hence they felt separated from the world.The time you compare a person or a community to a rattle snake for just his ideologies or thoughts, the more they will try to prove they are right in what they are thinking creating rebellion.. Gandhi once said an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.BTW i am not trying to prove you wrong or anything about what you thought, i am just giving you an alternate perspective :)
@@lonewolf.s.n.4083 You are saying is different from your experience and our experience. India has that "caste system". We don't have caste system in Philippines. So Johnny is okay in his opinion.
Also this is just my opinion. People might mess this up later
@@vanishingstar777 yes different countries should have different strategies to resolve the problem, i dont really know the situation in phillippines but seeing that many ppl support johnny makes me think that it might be one of the optimum solution for phillippines .Ram correctly pointed that too about the difference in situations that the two countries are facing.
caste system has nothing to do with communism instead they are not connected at all. It was just unnecessarily brought up in that debate.
@@lonewolf.s.n.4083 The Communist Party of the Philippines, New People's Army or CPP-NPA in a nutshell is a terrorist group with a goal of overthrowing the government to get rid of democracy and capitalism to replace it with communism. If we remove NPA we are left with CPP which is no longer a terrorist group but has the exact same goal. How they will reach that goal is by bringing in the NPA part where they are freely recruiting (because of democracy) to this day in the Mindanao area. They can simply deny being part of the NPA while they are still training and all is well.
Johnny's argument is recognizing the danger where there is evidently one so we can get rid of the problem. Prevention is better than cure as how the doctors put it. Even then, since multiple damages through terrorist attacks already happened in the past, getting rid of the communist party today is just removing the tumor which was left growing for decades.
As I see it, the other's stance is freedom and democracy above all else even to the extent wherein the people and democracy itself are at risk.
@@lonewolf.s.n.4083facts in fact the caste system would actually be the complete opposite of communism but I understand the comparison
Amazing Jhonny. Ang tatalino ng nga Filipino noong araw. Kaya naipaglaban nila ang Pilipinas hindi nasakop ng kung anong Bansa.. Dapat lang pahalagahan ang nga heroes natin.
Kalungkot lang sa panahon ngayon mga kabataan natin karamihan mangtrolls at mangtrashtalk nakang magaling proud pa ayaw magaral mabuti sa klase ata sa 30 lima kang seryoso magaral
I agree. In addition to that, halos lahat ng mga matatalino, sadly ay napapakinabangan ng ibang bansa.
Saka yung parusa na ginawa ni President Magsaysay firing squad para sa mga sundalo na abuso sa mga civilian. Kaya umayos ang pagkakaisa sa Pilipinas. Dapat ganon din gawin ngayon dahil maraming abusado sa panunungkulan kaya nagiging masama ang mga mmamayan o kaya tumitigas ang ulo dahil na rin sa namumuno . There goes a saying like this... A GOOD LEDER MUST BE A GOOD FOLLOWER. ❤👍👌🙏
I think if the 3 men from India, Norway and UK would watch this video now, they would wholeheartedly agree with Johnny.
Within Norway communism is not an option where basic goods are provided, there's not a need for an ideology for masses like communism.
I'm a Filipino but I don't agree with Johnny at all. This is the same line of thinking that Ferdinand Marcos exploited to justify his dictatorship or his declaration of martial law. Communism became a worse problem during Marcos dictatorship. Lots of abuses that push people to join a group/rebellion to quell a common enemy.
Look where Norway is now, and where Philippines is now.
@@aldrinaldrin4618 Blame the lame Marcos. 😅
@@aldrinaldrin4618 you can only blame this to the marco's family because president marco's isn't even a president yet, marco's is not a dictator he's a hero the dilawans media used ninoy aquino death and the martial law to kick marco's out of his presidency and fun fact: marco's proclamed martial law because the people are in danger of terrorist in our country and the dilawans payed the police men to arrest kill and torture people in our country
They're all dead.
@@wutdahell9666 Actually, you have no evidence to defend your claim. As far as I understand what exactly your point is about,is clearly not related to what Aldrin mentioned above. We cannot point fingers to any previous leaders coz clearly we don't have any idea. We cannot act as if we know anything and spread gibberish claims that have no point. All the previous leaders becomes a leader coz the people trust them.
This is better to watch than people doing crazy and stupid stuff in tiktok
and BTS
agree sana ako but u have just said such things huh.
@@ganeshr3493 dude wtf, music band ko nhi sun sakte kya
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I agree
During my college days my professor told us about democracy. In Democracy you have your freedom, but if your freedom is injurious to the freedom of others the government has the right to curtail your freedom.
I hope “The Battle of the brains” TV show will go back to Philippine local shows. I believe it is the same as this.