1957 High school student debate/forum. India, Pakistan, UK, Philippines. Subject: Prejudice pt. 3
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Britain is shocked that her former colonies are not on their knees with gratitude for all she has brought them. Try not to cry when Philippines tells a story starting ~ 8:18 😭Participants: Edward Dennis Normandy - Philippines, Sara Chatt - UK, Gopinath Padmanabha - India, Amin Jan - Pakistan.
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I really love the fact that Indian and Pakistan students were debating each other but when it comes to Britain they join and told how much exploitation they have suffered.
INDIA, Pakistan,U.K -Sensable and Seriouse debate ..
Philippines - I am High' 🤯😇, Sad😔
Pakistan didn't exist before 1947
They haven't lost anything
Nothing can belong to something that didn't exist
In 1957 their was just 10 years of India's Independence and Formulation of Pakistan.Even the Pakistani guy was born in India.His Ancestors were Indian Moreover they have same history and colonial past. We can say that He was born as Indian
@@kanikathakur6566 but his religion says otherwise they r brainwashed to an extent of no returning back so it doesn't matter what we tell them
@@kanikathakur6566 Perhaps by ethnicity, but not by nationality. He is Pakistani.
“India was friendly towards Britain”~
“And that is a credit that lies entirely with us and not with you “
Some of the Wisest words ever spoken ..
Gopi is an icon
13:57
Katei zehar 🔥
I mean how? That man is so intelligent and wise. That too in those ages where there was no internet and all. I felt like smashing the britsh lady everytime -_-
Yes
As an Indian, I really am admiring Gopi. He is very well spoken, his timing, his sarcasm and everything is on point. Even in 2022, I doubt if I could speak like Gopi, if I participate in some debate. I wonder if I could get some information about him, about his details or what he did as an adult or sthg else, so that I could know more about him.
He apparently server in the IFS. If you read the rest of the comments they share some of his history.
I can't even imagine to debate like him:/
Haha you’re coming yourself to a guy who left his language and I’m guessing his country to go to a new place and debate about a topic which is very controversial in that time. How much pride you have in yourself man. You guess you could hold the debate with him. Wtf have changed in the past 70 years that made you so intelligent. Some magical drug.
There's a saying in the Philippines "Latang walang laman ay Maingay"
@@rushiihatofiriadragneel1531
Are you calling Gopi empty, or noisy? Come on, he isn't that bad! The young gentleman from Philippines is also quite wonderful!
Pakistan and India uniting against Britain kinda gives me a different kind of satisfaction. I love the way they both just shut down all the illogical arguments about how we should be grateful to them for talking away our freedom as a country.
im a pakistani but ill choose a brit over an indian
@@user-fw5gp2me9b im a Brit and id choose a Pakistani over an Indian. Tourists in Pakistan get gifts and are welcomed, tourists in India are used for money and harassed
@@user-fw5gp2me9bya bcoz they're providing atta aren't they
@@user-fw5gp2me9b You are the mirror of an Indian sanghi.
@@user-fw5gp2me9b Sure, but not everyone will. Me for example,
As a Pakistani I have respect for Gopi.
Imagine having this much information before the easy access of information through internet
Lol, it's true the things he knew about India at his age is still unknown by many intellectuals here. So, it was rather a surprise for me that a 17 year old Indian guy had better thinking capability and knowledge than most of the Indian leaders/ intellectuals at that time - and even now.
Even with Google and smart phones in their hands.. people talk like illiterates
@@powerhousebikki now u can see contradiction what he said. Because now everything has been manipulated by congress so that we forgot who were and is our enemy.
@@AbhijeetKumar-vh1ff Nah. I find him correct. Although, I agree that Congress has changed history to suit their political agenda.
@@powerhousebikki At that time he was having so much knowledge about geo political situation in india or in world. Because at that time everything was happening in front of eye. But now we have boring education system.I had never intrest in SST subject till class 10th but after 2014 when I heard about new rising leader I gained political knowledge and researched that I was feeden lies in school and that was boring. Because in history we were shown miserable india as if we had no achievements.
The Indian delegate was very fact based. In this debate, both India and Pakistan finally got reunited when they started bashing the Brits... All 4 delegates had strong points, but they were still very friendly with each other, which is what is completely missing in today's time.
Yes. Considering the amount of knowledge he had regarding Indian and UK was immense and it shows how intelligent he was. All 4 of them were knowledgeable.
@Sohrab The Socialist Yes. I know.
Blame the pakistan army and it's master ISI for that
Yeah because Terrorism wasn't at its peak then...
@@robinraj4812 pakistan can be great if military do not control them.
The guy from Phillipines stuck to the topic of prejudice. He did a great job
I am a Muslim yet loved Gopi 's response. Wow ! These teenage boys were more mature than most adults of today's india. Amazing!
If Gopi was alive today he'd have sad to see what a disappointed Muslims of India have been.
@@Ricktheprick he would be more dissappointed towards the violent hinduvta goons
@@MohammedTanvir-er7me Really ?
I don't think so.
He'd be proud seeing youth taking a stand for their culture against oppressors and invaders.
@@Ricktheprick If a bunch of mob and goons such as hinduvta is not an issue for you, then even gopi would slap you lol
@@MohammedTanvir-er7me No they aren't.
Do you even know how many girls and families they've saved from bloodthirsty iz|amic zombies ??
I think as a Pakistani I would appreciate how Gopi answered the British lady was applausable. Gopi has great command on his speech. Huge respect for him.
thanks for appreciating that after all both countries are sisters/bros from same mother
Indeed. Gopi later became ambassador.
@@LearnersNation we are all India historically no pointing in hating each other
@@stayyabali how you know that ? Where is he now?
They practiced it before the debate🤝
I would have loved if the indian or Pakistani had said "Then please return this material wealth which is of no use to you."
I think they had to watch what they say more back then then today , one bad word and they exile you to some far away island
Agreed.
You do know that we were independent by 1957 right? Who will exile whom and by what authority?
@@SP-ij4ls the brits still exercised a lot of soft power on india. And india was wayy too weak economically to even contend with the brits.
@@FruitPonchi Over a student debate?
"Most english men think that history began with the signing of magna carta...."
Wow... Here Gopi is the most savage guy and respectful at same time...
This is 1957, no Internet nothing. His communication skill and knowledge is amazing. 🙏 Gopi.
You should see indians now. All just empty vessels. Indians older than 50. So knowledgeable. True intellectuals. I assume same in pakistan too. Empires maybe bad to masses but they sure did produce certain class of intelectuals. Which is hard to find now.
As an Indian, this is so ironic, a hindu and a muslim fighting whereas the CEO of Divide and Rule, the culprit of it all - Britain sitting in between
divide and conquer my friend, divide and conquer :)
As an African American.. you express this sooooo very well.. it is always divide and conquer.
🎯
the fact that your name is Aryan , its a whole irony in itself . but you are right about Miss Gori divide and conquer.
Yes lol I saw that too
Am i the only one who finds it really refreshing how they're honest about their prejudices in front of each other while still showing each other respect rather than pretending their prejudices don't exist?
I was thinking the same thing. The honesty was truly beautiful.
It is rare these days.
Can we even have this kind of debate these days? I know for sure such rational people exist in both countries, there are religious fanatics in both countries who can make a mountain out of mole hill. we will end up having war over Internet. sad times indeed! we have regressed in times!
Someone report this racist @Nomadic Tribe. He is writing a passage to tell that hindus are ignorant.
I just love this channel!
Look at the way they talk and how young adults and teenagers talk today! Even grown ups
No cap bro
These are the richest of the rich children in the world at the time this was recorded. This does not represent the average person.
@@ananyashah3171In addition to that, this was a formal and aired debate. Of course they would not use informal language. Sad to think some people fail to read the room😢
@@liangteh The point is that they knew how to use formal language. Also think that, even if it was rehearsed, still they are teenagers, surely not used to cameras and the such. Yet they all had admirable composure.
@@irmar That’s not a fair comparison because a lot of children from rich families and high levels of education is school can even debate better than these children. If you think Skibidi and Brainrot language is the maximum of what kids can speak today, you’re kind of funny. Because even average high schoolers are taught to speak and write academic language today. Of course your day to day language will always be different to the one you use in a speaking test.
Gopi passed this year at age 99. He did so much in his life!
no he was different . This Gopi is still alive
@@Arjun080 could you please give me more details about him?
Gopi is still alive and kicking he is a diplomat and a stephenian
He is still very much alive! Born in 1939, so 83 years old.
@@NaughtyKannadiga he was a diplomat
The Philippines guy spoke less but melted my heart with his story, just like his prejudice for Japan melted away
I hope to God that the guy from Phillipines became a poet or a novelist.
i was immediately drawn to him. such a gifted storyteller, with the ability to use his emotions and take ur heart on a ride. i relate to his disdain for japanese people as it relates a lot to my disdain for white americans. i haven't had a transcending an experience like his but i have seen how my prejudices towards them have been slowly chipping away
same omg hes so precious
Seriously the fact that he lost his father to the Japanese but still had enough forgiveness in his heart to remove his prejudices shows the kind of person he is. I would've never forgiven them honestly
@@caitlynimani6710 Why do you have a disdain for white Americans?
The fact that Gopi went on to become an IFS officer makes this so much more interesting.
Really?
@@itsu2553 Yup. He apparently got into IFS in 1962.
can you please tell me his full name?
@@84y87 wow that's great! I m glad he didn't settle down abroad.
@@cinelines7086 Gopinath Padmanabha
The dialogue is so much more civil than anything imaginable in 2024
I wish that teenagers were still like this today.
teenagers are still like this in my personal experiences. it just depends on what clique someone belongs to and the debate clique has always been like this.
@@trish719 that's good to hear. I'm hopeful that I will come across a group of teenagers like this one day
Go to a high school debate tournament and you’ll see them everywhere 😭
He represented Philippines so well. He reflected a character that most Filipinos have.
Yes it was impressive
I would have smashed Britain face for saying colonialism good
Lol what about Filipinos in Social Media .
@@jean7634 Social media is different from real life debates.
The time when Carlos P. Garcia was the Philippine President. Excellent leadership does have a positive influence :-) ♥
UK, Pakistan, and India: argues with each other
Philippines: 👀
The three were basically exes 😂
I can relate with my Best friend nor teachers like I was on their middle: 😬👀
@@wadapak7622 😂😂😂
Maybe because the Philippine guy can't relate much. They were talking about prejudice. And he only had prejudice against Japanese which he got over eventually. Btw i like the English woman for interrupting the bickering between India and Pakistan and gave the Philippine guy a chance to talk.
The 3 nations was related because of colonialism from U.K.
They thought Indian and Pakistan would fight so they placed The Deceiver Britain but it backfired. 😆
Exactly, even though Pakistan and India have conflicts, but you will always find both of them united against Britain 😂..
17:00 A white British person in the fifties saying generational wealth doesn’t exist is the funniest thing I’ve heard all day.
What? Children were still working down mines for fuck sake, what are you on about LOL
When the Indian delegate threw sharp and witty criticisms at the lady, she just laughed and did not stop stating her honest thoughts. She didn't take it as a personal attack and start calling names.
Taking notes from the grandma and grandpas.
That's what amazes me.. Add to the fact that they were in their teens probably, because the title says High school forum, when the debate happened. Today not of our debaters can put forward facts nor can they take blame like that woman there. This video is a prime example of how debate must be conducted and spoken.
@@padmanabhanbharadwaj4213 Exactly. Not violent or boring, but witty and fun.
Indian schools need to encourage debates like these. So we can have greater exchange of ideas and understand each others positions.
@@_wrl_ nope they instead will encourage "beta study 10 hrs a day so you can go to IIT or Harvard",
@@_wrl_ But the maths teacher has to complete her portions. 😂 It's the same reason we don't have much PE or any swimming.
"Why do u think colonialism is so bad?"- asked the colonial master.
Gopi is an excellent debater, his disposition and argument are very very strong.
This is a fantastic format, with the kids being direct, talking about what they don't like, and yet still respecting everyone they're talking with. And they do a really great job of listening to the moderator, who tries to keep the field level.
the Japanese mother who lost her son asking for forgiveness to Dennis' mother who lost her husband both to wars is beyond humbling.
I cried
Truth... Naiyak ako sa kwento nya, tumagos.
Yes we know that almost all japanese people are humble
@@paullights2154 ...me, too.
@@rumbarey yes, I totally agree. Why can't the leaders just kill each other and stop dragging their people into wars? No civilian even wants a war. It doesn't solve anything and nobody actually wins. Both ends up destroyed, both economies are down. It's just about who lost more, and that is so messed up. The damage of war outweighs its cause.
Holy shit Gopi was absolutely brilliant. Haven’t seen anyone spit so many facts like that.
You're just another Islamophobe.
Not your fault
@@kayf_ahmad Change my prejudice!
@@kayf_ahmad And you are supporting Amin. You are another Honduphbe.
But not your fault
Next to his SLAVE masters...Gopi fears the light..
It's OK...poor kiss ass..its not his fault SMH
@@latishamalika1 holy shit man u got the whole squad laughing
I salute dennis for being matured man, the way he's quite while the others is debating and wait for others to question him and the way his opinion really base on reality and both good and bad side and not only in bad side .
These type of videos helps maintain my sobriety. Thank you so much for enlightening us with these videos!
This kind of teenage life is what we should aspire to be. This is wayyyy too cooler than what we called cool in today's generation.😩
Thats facts
trueeee
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@MKLSON ミカエルソン ay sorry po ah mali mali poba? Pasensya, Gbu!!!
We still have exchange students and we still have these kinds of debates, when i was studying in lpu manila theres tons of korean exchange students and african exchange students.
The Indian student had the best arguments, very mature. And the Filipino students sincerity-
He's the quiet kid seated in the corner
He said he thought Muslims were a merciless “race.” Lol he needs a dictionary muslims are not a race
@@srgdl7059 I keep telling this to Muslims when they start calling me a racist for criticising Islam.
@@yomamasofat810 😂
Islamophobia is still a thing in India!! yay!
Meanwhile
High school debates now:
“Goku vs Superman”
Sad reality indeed
The arrogance of Colonial Brits is mind boggling.
They were never disciplined by their parents or teachers
The British girl: "Why do you think colonialism was so bad?"
The Indian MADLAD: "aww, my sweet summer child, come, let me explain..."
Spot on.
that is not a girl the host callls him sir
@@ruj268 she is a girl
@@rehanbabu6510 listen carefully at 2:10 the host says "how about you sir" that proves he is a boy
@@ruj268 it's her name Cera. She's is a girl
The interviewer calling the Indian and Pakistani reps’ rebuttals “violent” was ridiculous. You could tell it was getting under her skin that they made valid points.
My thoughts too, I actually was surprised at that comment of hers.
pissed me off too omg
@Abhinav S that was the most underrated knowledge coming from students back there when there was no internet. I can't see any wrong in whole debate. I believe this is what debate is.
Her comment was so rude and unnecessary! She wouldn't have referred to their rebuttal as violent of they were two white young men.
The whites of Britain know their place now as U.K. is converting to a Muslim country soon 😂😂😂😂
Truly amazing that such a deep conversation of history is available for everyone to watch for free with great audio quality.
21:15 "It is our generosity that made it possible towards your friendliness"
REALL
This debate is just India and Pakistan firing shots at each other until England is saying colonialism and everything they did was good and everybody should be grateful. Then India and Pakistan thinking: hey, they are the problem, not us and proceeding to fire shots at her. Philippines just awkardly and silently sitting in the back.
Lol true. But still, it's so sad to see that over 60 years later, Indians and Pakistanis have the same arguments and counterpoints as Amin and Gopi. Both nations are ripe for an even bigger divide if another british Raj comes around.
@@Celine-dd8nx Nothing is ever permanent. Might seem that way with our very limited lifespan, and therefore the natural tendency and pull to have shortsightedness dictate our views, opinions, mindset etc. But I truly believe India and Pakistan will resolve their differences in some fashion. The disruption, destruction, looting and chaos caused by the British Empire still runs very deep in both countries. That wound will take a very long time to heal, but heal it shall. We just won't live long enough to see it.
@Nisha chambiyal ok well #1, Britian was not the only country that killed millions overseas (probably in the hundreds of thousands, but not millions). And neighboring countries have killed and enslaved each other for centuries. So should you take them out of the UNSC? 2nd, everyone treated everyone like dirt. Literally a couple hundred years ago if you weren’t protected or trading partners or something with another country you were easy pickings for enslaving or killing. And they did not introduce racism. Racism has been a thing since the beginning of different skin colors. If you’re talking about how they “introduced racism” as in the American Atlantic Slave Trade, take the North Africans/other Africans that also sold their neighbors (one less country next to you, more food and land for you) off the UNSC. And no, they didn’t reach the world what a class system was. Class systems have been around since the first civilizations. There’s poor, moderately poor, wealthy, a bit wealthy, and a lot wealthy. Boom, class system. And those were all the acts of the people that aren’t alive now, who’s ideals would be shunned by modern day Britain. Britain has provided a lot for world organizations like the UN, being a first world country in a world without too much first world countries. And as for the South America thing, I have no idea why. But if we were to take Britain out from the UN that would probably spell some conflicts from leaders.
@Nisha chambiyal if y'all had the power that they possessed at the time, y'all would have done the same thing.
Uk at some point i totally forgot about Philippines sitting there 😂
Who else is binge watching this shit like there is no tomorrow after stumbling upon one video of this? This shit is addicting man.
count me in. 😂😂
Yup, i started watching at 12 am and now its 2am.
Me too 🤣
Yup. These videos are pure gold!
Me toooo... My roommate just called me weird 😂
The audacity to say , "The whole world should be grateful to us for everything that we had done for them because we have done a lot for them and I genuinely believe that"
Shes right.
@@blackbat908 No, she has been lied to by a system of education in Britain that refuses to acknowledge the devastating impacts left behind on colonies. Sure, Britain introduced democratic ideals & technology, but the thing about cultural diffusion is that it does not require colonialism to occur. Trade and migration would naturally introduce new ideas, as people call for implementation of technology.
But on the other hand, Britain killed around 100 million Indians at the peak of colonialism. Let that sink in, and please let it disturb you how unfathomable a number is. Nothing is worth that many lives, regardless if the alternative means they live in huts or in industrialized cities to rival the Western nations today.
@@blackbat908 "She's right", are you her grandson?
@@blackbat908how is she right?
🤣🤮🤮🤮
They think they are superior and the world has started with them
Philipino guy naild the topic about prejudice.. from bitterness to forgiveness.. greetings from mexico... Mexico Pampanga Philippines 😅
When she says “a bit like the royal family” I realised at that moment that the British monarch at that time is still the British monarch today! Funny they still have monarchy.
Wow, that's such a good observation, I didn't even think of that!
@@MentalHealthTreatment Thanks ☺️😉 You’re the best, uploading these precious gems from the past! I’m practically addicted to these. Wish more people see these archives.
She claims Britain brought democracy to India when Britain ruled it openly as an empire with kings and queens.
She also claims Africa is uncivilised because of scarce remaining slavery, when Britain enslaved millions in the continent.
We'd call it Propaganda if any other country denied historical massacres and crimes like this.
@@LowestofheDead Very true. Hypocrisy at its peak. Are you Indian?
@@LowestofheDead monarchy can still be democracy
The story. The calmness. The serenity the Filipino guy made me shed tears. Very genuinely told
so true. very soothing in the ears the way he talks. so great!
me too
When the Filipino guy speaks he's so easy to follow because of his perfect English intonation or accent, if you will. He seldom talks but when does, he's right on target on subjects being discussed with substance.
@@cebuanoniaccent is subjective.. I find the Indian and the Pakistani guy's english better
Haha they're accent are clown 😂@@biswaranjanmallick7407
Amin Jan Naim was a east pakistani(Then part of pakistan,now bangladesh) yes he was a bengali. For those who want to know.
Strangely he was defending Muslims against Indian guy Gopi's intolerance remark AND exactly that happened between East and West Pakistan following their partition, clearly showcasing their tolerance towards eachother despite being Muslims 😂
@@Avant-garde1611 Pakistan is a punjabi nationalistic militarist regime tbh. Lack of leadership and their nationalist ideals set them to their current crisis. Im glad we separated from them. And its not strange for both sides to engagge in a communal debate cause that time riots were sparking from all sides under political banners.Not all muslims are intolerant though,Pakistan used to weaponize itself under religion to establish its nationalist goals. Thats why places like Balochistan want separation.
@@NoONe-ju9tf absolutely, and one can't paint every Muslim on Earth based on actions and beliefs of few radicalised violence loving Muslims.
I myself have many Muslim friends and neighbours, and i believe there must be some among Pakistani Muslims also who believe their govt's terror supporting policies are not right.
whatre u yapping about? baloch dont want separation @@NoONe-ju9tf
To think that this level of debatable education achieved by all four participants was incredible.
The liberals who set this up purposely selected a stupid woman to represent Britain
I love how it went from prejudice
To
Pak vs Ind
Pak and Ind vs British
damn the british girl really tried to justify her prejudice over one experience and colonialism with a savior complex.
Well she wasn't that bad tbh. British rule wasn't that bad.
@@mayankdewli1010 British rule was the worst. It seems you need to read more.
@Vito Corleone racism WAS considered bad by everyone except the British back then dude.
@@mayankdewli1010 dude we get it. You're a kid.
@@mayankdewli1010 I agree with you, years of slavery, subjagation, and stealing 50 trillion dollars worth of material from India wasnt that bad
Its unbelievable long time ago without proper information as internet young people really sharp on opinion and knowledge.
The "Oh yes. " at 12:41, dunno whether that was genuinely sarcastic or if I just felt it that way but damn did it skyrocket my respect for that man
The story of the guy from Phillipines visiting Japan was so good, I loved when he said he left all his bitterness and that the war brings misery to both side
That was the real learning and wisdom. Losing someone in war. Then you know what's real. And how petty the rest really is. I was so disappointed that noone addressed the meaning of this. It's all economy, politics, religion and games. Like lies to a child. Poor kid.
easy to erase the torture via emotions temporarily, those traumas will resurface.. people feel compelled to compromise ti be the bigger man.. psycopaths knows how to fiddle with our emotions 🤣😂
He is genuine person
Yeah he is a better man than me
God spare me from hearing anyone defending Colonialism ever again.
The audacity of her defending communism.
@@bellemy5390 she didn't defend communism, she spoke about defending against it? Or perhaps you meant colonialism? If the second, the audacity of you to assume she had any other form of education than the one made by the people who colonised the world… I think you should give some leeway to your thinking, this is a teenager from over 70 years ago… are you really expecting her to have to same Ideology as we do today? The world she grew up in, and the people who raised her were from VERY different experiences, and ideals, and ideologies to what is today…
I don’t understand why people try to judge as if they themselves wouldn’t have believed everything they would’ve been told especially without any global communication and learning centre…
Colonialism is part of human nature in a way, I think every culture want to survive first and thrive second. Part of thriving as a single culture will eventually means colonizing people or at least strongly be defending their own against another culture that wants to colonize them. I think colonialism is inevitable because it is part of our survival instincts as a species.
@@pupusaslordking5617 Nicolas, that's part of the mindset of European Colonialism. I don't think it has much to do with 'culture' either; more like greed and the arrogance which assumes you have the right to colonize.
@@pupusaslordking5617 😅 you'll bastards will never change
Note : by bastards I meant believers of suppression , colonialism
Clearly Gopi has much more knowledge than all the 3 students combined. She needed to fake laugh everytime gopi came up with a valid point to hide her anger somehow and not get violent.
I have nothing but respect for all 4 of them, and all other such smart people who worked for years upon themselves, on their personal growth and aren't just another average student or citizen.
the boy from Philipines made me cry with his beautiful story
"It might interest you to know-" right before he drops a smackdown
at this point she knew she f up
Man that Indian guy is just terrific with representing facts without fear
I think such people are not encouraged in India today. The nation is moving in the direction of Tamas (crass ignorance).
@@sriharshacv7760 things are changing again bruh
@The BlackMace I agree with u but the youth don't prefer to watch those channels and 2nd covid wave changed the thing lot jobs loss, unemployment , high inflation again become huge issue...
@@priyanshupandey2670 I don't see any change yet
@@priyanshupandey2670 yes, most definitely.
Just backwards.
Very interesting. "The whole world should be grateful to us for everything we have done for them". This girl cracked me up 😂
exactly! as if they're some supernatural superior species
Without the UK india would not exist nor Pakistan.
Their arrogance is the reason why they could never go to the moon. They remained on land with thumping their chests like school going teenagers. Now they are a small submissive island to their daddy USA lol.
We Irish had democracy before the English, we had the Clan pick the next Chieftain while the English gave the leadership to the firstborn son.
yes, they forget the Dark Ages was an English thing, while everybody else was on the apex of being civilised
I have learnt so much in these 25 mins than last 7 years , the calmness, punctuations, facts agreement disagreement , counter and flow . India stole the show , Pakistan supported the debated in a genuine way and the war story really moved me . This comment in video is for me , if i lose my way from being human i must come back here and learn lessons from them. Thank you for this video
And filipino guy was ignored mostly ಥ‿ಥ
@@muzammil6651 He showed great class. Most of the viewers come out of it respecting the Filipino student. A man of few words is not a man with little to say.
@@rishikeshp.5610 I second that!
@@rishikeshp.5610 I liked him the most, wise and considerate
Your comment is so lovely...it was the cherry on top
That''s Edward Dennis Normandy of the Philippines, Ateneo grad. Lives in San Francisco, California now. He was the chairman of the San Francisco-Manila Sister City Committee.
Oh really? He's well spoken, prim and proper.
I searched his name in google and found an article about him meeting with FP Magsaysay and other information how he got to this forum. In the same news article it was said he also went to Europe after this forum.
Kumusta na po sya...
How old na po sya? Very smart
@@czarinamanzano1433 according sa article na nabasa ko 15 y/o sya dito sa forum na ito
15:30 is what unites us still.
They all sound so wise and enlightened...except that British girl. She hasn't got a clue.
Non of them have a clue. They are too young.
God, I'm a teenager myself and I aspire to be like them.
Ikr. I don't think Im as eloquent as they do even if I'm older than they are in this video.
very good
You can do it :)
Okay adolf
lmao people are so shallow. When they see nerds getting heroic representation they want to be nerds unlike how they mocked them.
When ppl see loyalty n commitment getting romanticised then they want that instead of leaving for frivolous reasons.
People are super fickle
I searched about Padmanabma Gopinath and was glad to know that he became a Diplomat.
Really? Where he is now?
@@amu808 prolly dead lol
@@piyushraoo r u sure
@@amu808 yes
@@piyushraoo I don’t think he is dead
Most inspirational debate i have ever seen !! So polite and genuine!!!
19:00 the pakistani student is very intellectual and genuine. This is how every person of india and pakistan should've been.
Due to British education
@@DisconnectedRoamerno
@@DisconnectedRoamer ignorance starts with cope it later turns into hatred and generalisation which eventually leads to racism.
He's the only one that has manners
Indian - man of facts, pun, charm,infallible respect for his own country. He counters every argument gracefully as he accepted some of the weaknesses present in his country. I like his use of historical/ geographic/political knowledge to completely Out class the British debater.
Only he seemed to be enjoying the debate
Pakistan - seemed bit emotional in start when argument made on orthodoxy of Islam but make some good argument against the colonial rule. And in he even recognised the neo colonialism back in 50's.
British- she was on backfoot throughout the debate natural for a kingdom shrinking losing territory and her resources in the war. She made some arguments about the 'gift of democracy' bit was completely demolished the Indian guy. He is said it was started in India when Europeans were 'little blue savages'.
Phillipines - he was the only one who really addressed the topic of debate fully stating the negatives and positives of prejudice. Through some real life examples he really stood out. He even gave a solution to negative prejudice that is to know about the people emphasize with stand in their shoes to experience what they did that's only way to combat prejudice.
Overall this awesome debate is compelling me to see other episodes too even though my exams are just round the corner.
not gonna lie , you have a bias when writing this .
@@allftw2677 not gonna lie , you have a bias when writing this too
@Ca Study how ironic to express your prejudice against pakistanis under a debate about prejudice
👍.
Well said. Fully agreed with you
the girl didnt realize that those propaganda were fed to her.
colonizers didnt do it out of "good will" ..its all about business girl.
“Benevolent capitalists”
They did it all in the name of 'God'. Religion divides.
@@kamalkumar7978 not really just because someone does it in claim of something doesn't mean it's bad. The British also justified their bad deeds claiming they were "civilizing" them would that imply "civillization" is bad? Bad usage or excuse does not necesssarily make it bad.
I hope the girl is still alive to realise it from this comment
The British girl represents the woke woke of 2021...I am being too gentle here, I mean ignorant and conceited. Crushing the natives of various nations in the name of...
Edward from phillipines is underrated, he won my heart
A sensitive subject discussed in a mature way.
Gopi is like every cousin in my family. I'm a South Indian and makes me very proud
Seriously!
Wow even your female cousins look like gopi, very interesting
@@schmeetsonbeetson7168 komedy
@@schmeetsonbeetson7168 a cousin could be a male too
No periyar 🤮🤮 cringe back then, only viraat indians
16:20 one of my favorite part in this whole debate, I just loved how the Indian and Pakistani dude united !
Yes, and the Pakistani guy is even speaking as an "Indian" then, it's quite remarkable
@@MentalHealthTreatment EXACTLY! I did notice that!! at the end of the day, we shared the same history and went thru the struggles together !!
@@appletaters9890 brothers/sisters from the same mother amirite
♥️
no matter how much pakistanis and indians hate each other, if its Britain they're talking about, their 'desi' blood takes over and they stand together as one. It's honestly kinda fun to watch lol
The 'hmm' of Gopi when Sara tries to explain why British Colonialism was good. (13:30)
Guy's a savage
🤣🤣
Not giving him a chance to reply as she know what's coming for her😂
@@Avant-garde1611 exactly! I noticed she did that a lot! Also, sleekly diverting the subject to what the Pakistani delegate has to say, so the Indian delegate does not get to rebuttal her claims was utterly obstinate. Still, fascinating how well Gopi conveyed his points.
The sarcastic vocabulary gopi had even then is refreshing!
imagine having discussions and deep talks abt Philippines issues with the guy who represents Philippines that would be GREAT asf : ))
he's still alive
@@achillesroblox what's his name?
@@engel89118 what?
Happens when we drink.
@@krukrok5218 @Nobel • the name is Edward Dennis Normandy III. Definitely, he's from wealthy Filipino family.
[On December 18, 1956 -PRESIDENT Magsaysay this morning received Edward Dennis Normandy III, 15-year old high school student of the Ateneo de Manila, who called to pay his respects preparatory to his departure for the U. S. to represent the Philippines in the World Youth Forum sponsored by the New York Herald-Tribune in which 38 countries will participate.
Education Secretary Gregorio Hernandez, Jr., who accompanied Edward to Malacañang, informed the President that the boy was the winner in a nation-wide oral and essay contest conducted by the U. S. Information Service in the Philippines with the assistance of the Department of Education.]
Google from this subject:
"Official Month in Review: December 16 - December 31, 1956"
then select the article from officialgazette(dot)gov(dot)ph
A silent river runs deep, a silent man speaks deep. The Philippines representative is an example
Not really. There are loud people that are smarter than silent people too
No offence intended:
There are lot of wisdom lost blurred by loud people; as the saying goes”avoid loud and aggressive person they are vexatious to the spirit.....” ; peace be with you 🇵🇭
@@johnmanuel2666 A saying is just a saying, it doesn't apply to everyone
@@johnmanuel2666 i agree with you, man!
I disagree. Look at Johnny Antillon's stint.
He talks of Kashmir, as a native Kashmiri I know, it was Pakistan who raided Kashmir, and it was not tolerance that Akbar married Hindu women, it was a way of annexing their kingdoms. In Kashmir, Kashmiri Pandits have faced swords of Muslims for centuries, Jazia, disarmament , forced conversion, or merciless persecution is prevalent even today.
If narcissism has a face. Her name would had been Sarah.
racist
@@armin3057Why that now?
Britain, actually
@@armin3057 Thanks 🙏🏻. I guess 🤔
I literally cried while the Philippines is speaking..i just felt the sincerity.
Guilty here
o talaga lang ahhhhh
@Youre Road, don't mind the ones na nagsabi ng "weh" or "talaga lang ha"
kase YOUR EMOTIONS ARE VALID. IF YOU FELT THE SINCERITY AND CRIED, THAT EMOTION OF YOURS IS VALID.
never let doubters dictates you OWN validity
Ung mga nagcomment Ng "weh?" Yan Ang halimbawa na walang masabi 🤣
Those people who doubt about your feelings and write "weh" and "o talaga lang ahh". They didn't understand anything that's why they don't understand you. Don't mind them.
Sorry kung may grammatical errors haha, I'm not good at English ✌🏼
I was leaving a new man 🤗 what a beautiful story by the Philippine boy. God bless your heart ❤️
I wish more people like Gopi spoke up like that, calm, intelligent and no swear words. Very wise young man.
wow amazing debate, still dignified. Hard to find these days
Philippines gave one of the best examples of how one can overcome prejudice
True
I think the Japanese mom that please for forgiveness and accepted her country fault that change the prejudice of that man but in case of us muslim and British never accepted their fault
Four outstanding participants. Here is little bit of information about Gopi: Padmanabha Gopinath was born (1939) in Cochin, Southern Indian state of Kerala. Masters in Philosophy and Economics from Oxford University. Diplomat in Indian Foreign Service, in New York during 1976- 82 as representative to United Nations, then director of U N secretariat. Director, International Institute Labour Studies, Geneva 1998- 99 .
( I live where he is originally belonging from, dump compared to his brilliance, though 😉 )
XD, where to fimd his details now? Where is he?
@@daggerplays7303 I don't know where does he live currently. Collected the above written information from Internet.
Thanks man!! ❤️
Such brilliance yet such prejudice regardless of history standing against what he is saying. I hope as he aged and matured he changed his views
@@shadowcat03saba well everyone is prejudice against something
5:18 girl really just said the n word so casually 💀
Spanish
The Philipino has a huge compassion and understanding.
Just for anyone who is curios, Padmanabhan Gopinath was born in Kerala in 1939. In 1958, we graduated B.Eco with Honors from Delhi Uni, Masters from Oxford (UK) in 1961. From 1962 onwards, he worked as a Diplomat IFS, External Affairs, then special representative to UN, Director UN Secretariat, New York. He held various positions until 1999 (until 60 yrs age and predominantly in Geneva). He married Bharati Nair in 1963, div 1988.
I was curious. thanks!!!
There was another video making rounds of a malayali girl too.
I was proud even the thought of he's Indian. And now he's a mallu tooo?? Bruhhh-
Being a mallu indian, srsly i'm ashamed that i never knew this guy until now😞
@@atrusfratedot7 being a mallu u shud be ashamed, period
Lol
@@atrusfratedot7lol being a mallu, Look to your land. What misery is it to be born in kerela today, the safe haven of communism and islamic jihad
Gopi Could've Chosen Any Language To Speak Out Of Thousands Languages of India
But He Chose To Speak Facts.
no he spoke English I think
😂
Gopi could have chosen any attire, of thousands of attires of India. But he chose to wear Grace.
because he needs to steal american jobs, cause india creates slumdog jobs and they love stealing other countrys jobs
but afsos, gopi jese bohot kam log hain hamare desh mai, we now have idiots and arrogant people who deny history and the effort that was put in for the independence, instead now they make videos of "why britishers colonizing was a great idea"
and "why ganddhi ji was the bad guy" very very sad , thank god gopi is not here to see all this BS.
same with pakistanis, all these people going "WOKE" not all tho, but its already a start.
They all come off as very sweet and sincere people. Great discussion.
And now we have Twitter.
Very informative and decent way of expressing differences. All participants are are great and very knowlegeable and Gopi tops the list. Phillipines story is heart touching. Lot to learn from this debate.
"camouflage retreat from a position you know is no longer tenable"- words effortlessly flowing out of Gopi's mouth! :-)
8:07 The biggest culprit is sitting between india and Pakistan. Funny thing is UK telling them could we leave the history 😂😂😂
Bcoz she knew if they open history they both will pointing fingers on me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂
😁😁😁
They said history was less than 10 years ago when this happened.
Well at one point they did start talking about grudges founded on ancient history thousands of years ago, which we should really try and move on from
Yes it is.
Whenever she(British) acted surprised listening India /Pak debators -- my mind was like "Chal joothi, you started it,you know,don't act like you are hearing new story"🤣
(Just for Fun)
Hope she lived long enough to see Rishi Sunak as Prime minister of Britain
This was such a fascinating listen, and to think this was before information was so abundantly available.
It's quite ironic that the Filipinos now admire the Japanese people for their discipline and cleanliness and Filipinos like buying Japanese brand products for their reliability and durability. Prejudices can certainly change over time
Not like koreans still have the hatred to japan
Past is past
Well its been so long and because most filipinoes understand being angry would do nothing so they just forgave .Its also because Japan has fixed their image by giving us trains,train tracks and other aids. Many filipinoes also migrated to japan to work and earn good money for their families.Anime also was aired here so most of the generation today likes japan.
@Quench Gamer TV
We Filipinos know A LOT of WW2.
@Quench Gamer TV We have a subject only dedicated to history from elementary to highschool, so we know a lot about the ww2 even ww1.
Philippines lost its anger towards japan and now we hate china
The fact that the British lady actually has the audacity to justify her nation's actions and then demand appreciation from the entire world really makes me question their education cuz it's still this way even today. Not an ounce of guilt, only arrogance.
Let's see if she can tell the same things in these time . Yes many good things has come out of colonisation .But the argument is just like if a child was and parents were murdered by someone they that child got adopted to a rich good family . Did the murderer did a good thing here by killing his parents . Noone owe the Britsh shit
I would call her indoctrinated and brainwashed but not arrogant.She did not force her opinion on others and was very tolerant towards criticism.
@@sameethfarhaan5214 the arrogance part wasn't directed at her, she seems sweet but it's their education system and society. For Eg, At least Germans know very well and accept what Hitler did and no one glorifies him even tho he brought prosperity to the nation, Britain was much worse than Hitler yet reacts in a total opposite way. Can't even accept their fault or make any public apology but instead considers themselves as some kind of saviours, which no one needed.
The British right wing today still uses the same arguments and holds almost the same position. Yet Indians today are more sympathetic towards them than towards the left wing. I think we all know the reason for this.
Also the British girl seemed like a sweet person, I think it's just the culture around her that has caused her to form such opinions.
Why should the present generation feel any sort of guilt? They were not responsible for the British Atrocities. We should leave history aside and try to compete with them with our present resources. We don't get any material benefit from their acknowledgement of the cruelty of their ancestors. No country would teach their citizens the evil side of their own history.
The damages of colonialism are clear as day in this video, and the only one who seems to be in complete ignorance about them, is the British woman who’d rather stay on the topic of “current prejudices, thank you”.
I love how raw the discussions are, especially the Filipino guy telling his story of prejudice. Had me tear up man. Such eloquent speakers. The Indian guy is as sharp as a ceramic knife. Indian and Pakistani guy teaming up on colonialism is chef’s kiss. The British girl was quite a sport, given the hammering she got!
It is Kind of old