Is the iPad Pro M4 Worth the Upgrade Over the iPad Air M2?
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Apple's new iPad Pro M4 and iPad Air bring powerhouse M-series chips to supercharge your creative workflow. But are they worth the hype for photographers and videographers?
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M4 vs M2 Performance: How much faster is editing and rendering on the M4?
Pro Apps on iPadOS: Is iPadOS mature enough for professional photo & video editing? We explore Resolve, Final Cut, Photoshop, and more.
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Great video! For photographers, the iPad is a great tool if you adopt a mobile workflow so it’s much more dependent on your workflow than making the OS more functional. For example, using Lightroom mobile is very capable and can be used to manage a photo library but it’s a different process compared to a laptop and Lightroom classic. Just different tools and use cases for different needs
Indeed. For me I use Lightroom CC versus Classic. Which more of the CC features would be in the iPad version. You are right thought it’s about workflow
The new iPads look great, but I'm sticking with my M1 iPad Pro for now. Thanks for sharing.
Still a powerful iPad. Thanks for watching, much appreciated
And I'll be getting this great iPad pro since I have no M chip whatsoever being that I have the 12.9in 2nd gen model 😂
Can you measure the weight of the new keyboard?
Bobby, I'm a first-time viewer and I've already subscribed! Your audio quality and that deep voice are just amazing. Keep up the great work with the videos!
Awww thank you very much 🙏
What if I have an m2 MacBook 13 inch do you think I should get the m2 air 13 inch. I’m planing to use the is to take notes watch Netflix, TH-cam, maybe draw.
I think it’s a great companion and will be great to use. You won’t be missing out on power but you get added benefits
I wonder, as an illustrator, if I can just go for the iPad Air 13” . I only use it for painting and watching movies and from what you say it seems a valuable option for such users
Yes you can. It will still have the capabilities tied to the Pencil Pro
Great video. When will FCP IPAD 2 be released ??
Thanks. They said late spring so hopefully we know more at WWDC
lumafusion 5 is coming out soon, thats a much better option than fcp
I want to get an iPad for sketching. Does the pro motion make a difference do you think? If it doesn't i might just get the air. I wish i could get the pro but to get the best version its like 4k man thats so much
I think the Air will be good enough. You still can use the pencil pro and get the new features to it.
@@btonelli yeah thanks. I think I'll just wait for the event next month to see what they announce. I got the money but I really don't want to invest that much. If it's just a big phone you know. I don't really like working on PC that much. I do a lot of digital painting. I've always preferred you know tablets for that. It's more ergonomic you don't have to like. Go sit at your desk to work or plug in a pen display to your laptop. But spending so much where you can't even like do basic things that a PC could do when you're spending More than a high-end PC doesn't make sense. I would want to make an iPad my main device if they made big improvements to their OS.
We need iPadOS for touch usability. As everyone should know, desktop OSs are not finger friendly. Look at the compromises Microsoft had to make in order to get Windows to work in the Surface Pro. It’s one reason (besides the high prices) why they’ve never sold well. I’d like to see more macOS features come to the iPad, even if it’s just to the bigger screen models, but not the macOS UI. It’s just a few weeks now, so let’s keep our fingers crossed.
Yes agree, but also to the point of Microsoft, I would say their marketing and distribution channels for the Surface products aren’t as streamlined as Apple’s. The balance of keeping vendors happy while creating their own products made for some odd decisions.
@@btonelli that’s true too. But I’ve seen many articles and videos over the years talking with gusty enthusiasm about those computers. But they sell in fairly small numbers in today’s standards for sales of these types of devices. I’m pretty sure that Apple has been playing with the full macOS on the new M series iPads since before they were released.
@@melgross I’m sure they have too. Sooner or later it’s inevitable they will do something like this
Like you i been using the M1 iPad Pro 12.9 with 1tb for all my photo editing. I bet i use it 8 to 10 hours a day since it came out. But mine is starting to slow down and it's starting to overheat really bad which Apple support said it is my USBC charging port which is causing the overheating. So I pre-ordered the new M4 iPad Pro 13 with 1tb and the apple pencil Pro it should be here in 2 days. I am really excited for it to show up get back into a nice steady editing process. Since my iPad Pro started to slow down I picked up and been using the Samsung S9 Ultra with one terabyte and 16 gigs of RAM. The oled display is phenomenal but the only thing bad with it is the color gamut is not as accurate as the iPad and I have to tweak the colors before giving them to my clients on my Mac PC. But i plan on keeping the Samsung S9 Ultra for my video editing simple drone footage and my new m4 iPad Pro 13 for photo editing. I just hope exporting and importing photos are faster than the M1 because I do a lot of weddings so get them onto my iPad takes a little bit
The M4 should be much better for you in many ways. As far as importing depends what system you use and files. I tend to import directly into Lightroom so that is software dependent in some ways, but will try a few different methods and get back to you.
@@btonelli i always use a quality uhs-ii card reader to import directly into my m1 iPad Pro straight with lightroom. But since i am using CFexpress Type A cards, i use a Sony CFexpress card reader and they upload pretty fast compared to the uhs-ii. I used to upload my raw files to my gallery then into Lightroom but it seemed to take longer. I just hope the M4 IPad Pro exports them quicker in Lightroom when it renders it from raw to jpeg.
Couple of questions: 1) have you tried the nano-etch surface, and if so any comments? 2) how do we calibrate the display (or at least get somewhat close) to fit in with the rest of a color calibrated workflow? Thanks.
Great questions: yes I’ve tried it. I was initially sent one for review but after using it a bit in the UK I opted for the standard display. Two reasons: first, since these OLED displays capture true blacks and rich colors it’s easier to edit to that vs a screen with less contrast and slightly muted colors which the Nano textured glass gives you. While this great for outdoor scenarios or uncontrollable lighting conditions to edit with it I personally feel is a bit more challenging.
Second, I don’t like the gloss border around it. I feel have it all at Nano textured or gloss. I understand the cameras are an issue but it detracts from the viewing. Also the viewing angles are a bit limited with Nano Textured.
Yes there is a reference mode in the advance part of the display for color calibration and you can fine tune the display to your liking.
@@btonelli thanks for the observations. Think the partial nano-etching would end up bugging me a fair amount, plus have concerns about muting the colors. Add to that open questions about the durability of this new etching process when subjected to heavy use, went ahead and switched to the non-etched surface. Have had iPads since the og, but think enough things have come together to give it a serious go as part of a hybrid Lightroom classic (where all images are stored and kept) and lr cc (for images that are actively being edited). If it works out for at least some video editing that would be a bonus,.
You reckon topaz will do one for iPad Pro with this version
I hope so. Don’t see why they wouldn’t.
the keyboard on the previous models was silly heavy! how's the weight with the new one?
It’s slightly lighter and feels more solid
@@btonelli I went to rice ball recently and told the folks there that I came to know them through your videos. Picked up 2 voigtlanders lens from them so far. Great bunch of chaps.
@@thinkpadx60thanks for that. Hope you enjoy the lenses!
iPad is not a competitive product to the Mac; it's an extension of Mac. The best way to use iPad within Apple eco system is to do light tasks while you're outside and complete it later when you get back to your workstation.
I love to shoot wirelessly to my ipad and my clients love to pick up the ipad and do culling right on the spot. It's a more 'hands on' experience than a Macbook and of course it's lighter.
Yes I agree but this is a first for the iPad to actually have the fastest chipset in Apples lineup. When I was there they took time to really explain the intricacies of the M4 and the way they were describing it, I think the iPad will change sooner than later.
For video editing on davinci resolve, do you think the 8gb ram difference matters a lot or worth the money?
Depends on the files you are editing. Resolve is quite intensive so the more the better but also understand cost is part of this. Final Cut 2 is really good so that may be an option as well.
Here in Canada for the 11inch starts at 1,399 and 13inch at 1,799 very expensive .I still have the 12.9 inch Ipad pro m1 chip .Canadian money is worthless . Great video !
Thanks for watching! Yes they are pricey and the M1 still is a fantastic machine
I was skeptical looking at the minutes of this video and if I wanted to consume it, but holy hell you had me listen to the entire video, albet in 1.5x playback
Thank you for watching!! I know there are a ton of them out right now so the fact you watched it all means a lot. 🙏🙏
I am someone who wants to upgrade from iPad Air 2, I need a device to draw on, no photo or video editing, will the M2 iPad Air be good enough?
Yes it will be. The new Pencil Pro also works on it well
Thank you Bobby
Thanks for watching
What band do you have on your ultra?
Sandmarc Titanium band
As a photographer I'm looking forward to taking the iPad Pro in place of my MBP on my National Park tour next month. Thanks for the helpful review!
Will be a perfect tool for that. Thanks for watching.
You’re going to regret it lol
Great Video. However I have one thing to ask which is for a person who had no ipad and want to buy one, so which one to get? M2 iPad Air or M2 iPad pro or M4 iPad pro?
Thanks. What do you plan on doing with the iPad? This makes it easier to recommend
@@btonelli Ok So I have no such heavy tasks to do in iPad to be honest. For now I would like to use it to watch videos on the go, notes taking and some basic sketching and few games which I heard is best to play on an ipad compared to iPhone.
I have iphone 15(non pro model), Macbook Pro M1Pro (14inch) and Apple TV4k so you can say I'm in the Apple ecosystem. I'm eager to use 120hz but its too much of cost lol.
@@DwaipayanRC I think the Air will give you good performance at a more affordable price. The M4 iPad Pro is also good but I would say see if your budget is okay to go for the 512GB version. But either is going to do what you need it to
@@btonelli thanks man. I'll see to it
But the software is almost exactly the same as in my iPhone 😂. What’s the point??
Hopefully this changes for WWDC
How are the speakers?! I’m big into consuming content and so being able to watch movies and shows is a big deal for me.
For which? They both sound good. The Pro feels like it has a wider soundstage and more depth even though it’s thinner. You can really feel the bass resonate in it. The Air feels a bit more neutral, still warm but not as big.
@@btonelli the iPad Pro 13’! That’s great to hear. I was a little worried with how the sound would turn out due to the thinness of the new iPad Pros and it was my only hesitation on getting it. 🙌🏻
@@troysegebarth16 yeah I was pleasantly surprised too. After you messaged here I played the latest Megalopolis trailer to test it again
@@btonelli thank you!! Very helpful!
I think if they give me SD card reader I'll be more than happy. Wish the Magic Keyboard gives us more ports like more USB-C and also SD card reader.
Yes agree. Was thinking that as well but that would probably increase the size of the Magic Keyboard I’m guessing
At the end it’s a decision everyone must make based on their own needs.
A MacBook Pro will probably always have more room for even more performance, they do have 8 high performance cores now, and maybe with the M4 they’ll get 10 or 12, who knows?
Bit than what are people doing with their devices and how much performance do they need? A lot of users will probably be more than fine with that configurations, others will need or want more power.
The same is true with the software capabilities, both OS and apps. Some will be fine with iPad OS, which in itself is probably still the biggest limitation, others will have problems with them.
But one thing really puzzles me, other than a marketing point of view - do we really need iPads to get thinner, or would a slightly thicker iPad with a slightly bigger battery and no camera bump for it to lay flat on the table even without a case not have been the better way? Honestly I’d have preferred that, but I’m not the one making these decisions 😉😂
Valid points.
The M4 has 9 and 10 performance cores now. The 10 comes with the 1TB and 2TB configuration.
Yes most people never really maximise their laptops or tablets but the same can be said for cars, etc. most people only use a percentage of that power for their needs the rest can be based on Vanity or just the desire to have the best.
iPad OS has been limiting thus far, but I feel that may change this year. This iPad is too powerful not to maximise it.
As I mentioned I think the thin aspect is more about what the future holds with this new type of chipset vs anything else. Call it the “halo” product to show consumers this is what we can do and that tech will bleed into other devices in the future
We need some material for chips and boards that don’t heat up, that would solve a lot of problems, which mainly come from the question about how to dissipate heat. But in all fairness I’m not aware of any such material, so it’s probably just wishful thinking 😂
You said you were editing this video then who"s the guy saying please dont fire me in 12:12 ?
Haha we both work on it :)
Looks nice , seriously expensive & for most totally overkill. As for WWDC we’ve been here before where Apple are speculated to bring all these desktop features because of these chips being pointless without it & haven’t. I suspect this wwdc will be a disappointment again.
Hmm I don’t know for this one. The M4 is such a big jump and what they were telling and not telling us has me thinking this will be a big shift for the iPad. I really hope they bring desktop features
Imagine if Apple allows dual boot for the iPad Pro!
That would be insane! Hopefully one day
I don’t think they will do dual boot but I think they will move in that direction at wwdc this year for iPad os.
You should be a movie star.
Too kind. Thank you 🙏
All of the WDDC AI features should run fine on M1 and up chips. There is no way the AI features are M4 specific since that will just alienate everyone on earth until maybe in 2 days when small % of people get M4 iPad Pro. As expected, I think WDDC will be overhyped on the AI features coming. GPT-4o (HER) announced today will run on any hardware, no one will care about the local AI stuff unless you are using the creative suit to do automatic content generation. All of the best AI stuff is still over the network since it is evolving SO FAST.
Yes the M4’s neural engine is more advanced but doesn’t mean the others won’t perform well. My hope is that it’s less cloud based and more on device AI
local AI is faster and more secured.
iPad Pro model has reference mode for color grading. Can also further calibrate in Reference mode advanced settings. And iPad Pro with M1 or at least M2 to present should have got desktop OS. So much wasted power as is.
Yes the reference color option is nice to have. I wish we had more desktop options including software loading that would work with this.
iPad Pro M2 or iPad Air M2, the difference in price in my country is just 75 USD.
Is the ipad air m2 good for playing game
Why did they put m2 not m3 maybe m3 Coming long way
@@isaiahortiz8940 to make a bigger impact on performance and power management Apple needed a chip to handle it hence the M4. The M3 would have been a minor bump
Yes can still play games but if you want the higher refresh rate for gaming, then need to go iPad Pro
damn bro, that hair is magnificent.
Hahaha thanks
@@btonelli do you think getting an ipad pro m2 11” 128gb is worth it for $677 brand new?
Yeah definitely worth it. Depends on what you need it for. The Pro will give you the XDR display the Air won’t as the Air doesn’t have Pro Motion, also more cameras.
nice but ridiculously expensive.
Understand. Hopefully an updated iPad OS and apps to take advantage of the new M4 will help justify the price more
“Specked out” so your main audience is the super rich got it what about your average consumer
These are review units and normally come spec’d out. As far as those that can’t afford top end which is most of us, I recommend 512 Gab storage for both. The 9 core vs 10 core for the pro isn’t a big difference currently and for the Air it will bring down the price. Only go top storage if you are doing a lot of video and photo work and need the extra storage.
@@btonelli I see thanks for the reply explaining I appreciate it 👍
@@flowergatcha no prob. It’s tough because we will have viewers asking about how is the performance for top line and also mid tier. Unfortunately companies don’t have the bandwidth to provide so many versions. So usually we will have top spec for review in most cases.
lol. No b Apple realized Qualcomm was going to beat them on Ai performance and had to push out this chip.
Haha Qualcomm not intel and AMd have been able match the M series chips. Don’t let a highly controlled event persuade you so easily. Hats off to Microsoft but let’s see what happens in WWDC.
capture one iPad app :(
Not a fan of having to pay double the subscription
Greg coverage Bobby
Thank you 🙏
18:06 I love how disgusted he looks describing the general consumer lol
How am I looking disgusted. That’s the farthest from the truth
@@btonelli Yeah you did! Dont act like your face didnt look spazzed out around that time stamp! Welcome to TH-cam newbie!
@@metamorphic6930 when you say spazzed out you lost the point. No one was “spazzed out. And wasn’t insulting general consumers. I’m explaining the entire video that the air is for 90 percent of people (general users). Have a good day
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