Great review. I don't think you were too hard on it. You kept it real. My iPad experience dates to the original. I upgraded to this one for 2 reasons. The FaceTime camera position and the screen. I've abandoned the illusion long ago that the iPad will replace the MacBook. I use both and love both. This new M4 11" is really cool and for me it was worth the upgrade. Man are the blacks and whites pure and it's a little snappier than the M2 11" it replaced, but yeah you're right, it's just an iPad, and that's ok.
Sounds as if, for your uses, you only need an iPad Air at most. Artists are super excited about what both the new iPad Air and iPad Pro offers in terms of the new Apple Pencil Pro functions. People whose work relies on an iPad are the reviews that are most interesting. A lot of tech reviewers fail to see through these eyes.
I currently have an iPad mini 4 (since 2016), and have been wanting to upgrade for the longest time but they haven't released a new mini model for some time. So I have been thinking of getting the base model iPad Pro, as I would like to draw and play some games and school stuff.
I was going to buy the 1tb model for the extra ram but seeing the performance in the 256 gb model, i don't think the extra ram is worth the extra cash.
Feels a little weird to be referring to a $1000 computer as "base model". Like it gives the connotation that it's underpowered or lacks features somehow. I mean, there is no better version of the iPad Pro to get. Sure you can get more storage, but the performance and features aren't going to be any different if you get the 256gb or the 2Tb. So why call it "base model?" I don't know. Seems odd to me. When I think of base model I think of the 10th generation iPad.
The 1TB and 2TB versions get one more core to play with and 16GB of RAM vs one less core in the CPU and 8GB of RAM in the 256GB and 512GB. It very well could have a performance change in the right situations especially with the extra RAM.
It’s literally the base model. Why would you call it anything else? To make yourself feel better? A base model BMW is still a base model before you add any bells or whistles to it.
You do get a small bump in performance for the 1/2 tb versions with the extra processing core and RAM. I think it’s something like 14%, though, nothing huge.
@@CujobobEven then, that boost is only in multicore performance. Everything else, single core, GPU, read/write speeds, is practically the same between the base and the 1TB. My assumption is that iPadOS is the bottleneck preventing true gains from that additional core and RAM, and so, unless WWDC introduces fairly fundamental changes to how apps are configured, the smart money is on the base model.
@@Andy-rc9db there’s no bottleneck. The apps haven’t optimized for it, most likely, or the extra RAM just isn’t needed for most things because the OS is so light.
Michael from the day I subscribed your channel I have enjoyed every video this one was no exception ....keep up the great work...can you do some more tips on iPhone and watch please 😀
Thanks for a very thoughtful and honest review, Michael. I appreciate 🙏🏿 your style and logical/ critical thinking 🤔 perspective. Keep up the great work, and I just subbed!
The problem, I think, is that it’s difficult to evaluate the iPad Pro without the keyboard and pencil (which, I know, makes it an even more expensive prospect). Without the peripherals, you have - as you say - got an expensive media consumption device. Add the peripherals and you have a powerful productivity machine. Personally, for my use case, the iPad Pro acts as both tablet (for media consumption) and a near full laptop replacement. I am able to complete 95% of my productivity tasks frictionlessly on the iPad itself (I write, work with RAW/ProRes, and some basic content creation with the Pencil). However, I do need a desktop for that final 5%. But, conversely, I couldn’t mirror my current workflow entirely on a desktop. So, for me, the two together are complementary. But, golly, it is an expensive device. And so I do agree that if Netflix, TH-cam, or whatever, is your primary use case, get the M2 - or even an Air.
Like most people - you missed the point when you compared it with your iPad Pro 2018. The new M4 Pro is probably the only iPad that will be running well in 7 or 8 years time. We just replaced our old iPad Pro 2017. I looked carefully at all the options and decide the iPad Pro M4 was - without a doubt - the best replacement.
Do you think that the 16 GB RAM version is worth it? There's not a lot of games on Apple that can like take advantage of it. Plus you would probably be streaming from your Xbox or Playstation. Also, not a lot of apps dont seem to need the 16 gigs either. And from what I've heard, there's only marginal upgrades
I think that’s what WWDC will show, so if you wait another week to order, you can still get within apple’s 14 day return policy if you need to upgrade or not 😂
@@TreyDongzz yeah I saw another video recently that said don't buy an iPad for what it is in the future. Buy one for what it is now. Because the guy bought an M2 pro thinking that they would announce something at that event last year, but it never came. I think they'll just add some minor updates to the OS, but they're not going to put mac os on iPad
Yes. Thanks for the 11” review. Also for the document scanning. I have a 12.9 Pro and am thinking of the 11” with a keyboard- to replace my aging 12” Macbook.
Great review Michael. The recorded microphone sound came across really good in sound quality. The speakers nearly sound the same as my 2018 iPad Pro. If there is a difference, I can’t tell.
Agreed. Though that additional storage and performance *may* be helpful to content creators and those who are working with RAW/ProRes… Albeit, the ability to work from an external hard drive somewhat mitigates the limitations of the base model(s).
Nice video! Bro, can you add a link or mention what Gear you use? What camera?.. and lights. & how you shoot the ipad screen very clear without having reflection
What app did you use to download music into Logic Pro for iPad? I’m a musician and could use the stem splitter in logic for many useful purposes. Thnx.
I think you underestimate the iPad Pro M4, maybe for you it doesn’t serve a purpose but that doesn’t mean it’s the case for everyone for me. The M4 iPad Pro is going to be very useful for me and I know this video is like three months old but still relevant because I’m finally going to get my iPad Pro next week I’m excited but I do agree with you on some things. Maybe Apple could’ve put the M3 chip in inside the iPad Pro, but I do think that Apple put in the M-series Apple silicon inside the iPad Pro shows the Apple wants the iPad Pro to be the companion device to work alongside your MacBook Pro or MacBook Air was never intended to replace the Mac and I just hope that you’re not one of those people that thinks that apples should put macOS on the iPad Pro with all they really need is the developers to push level apps for the iPad Pro to fully take advantage of the M4 processor. I definitely think you were too harsh on it and that you didn’t give it a shot because you didn’t have the magic keyboard and Apple Pencil pro.
What is the screen like after longer use? I use my ipad Pro 2020 11 inch, which is LCD for work and leisure. Emails, Teams, Excel, Word, movies, TV shows, procreate, and gaming. All combined, like 3 plus hours per day. Does the oled 1000 nits of brightness hurt your eyes with longer sittings??
I currently own the 2021 M1 iPad Pro 256gb and i use it mostly as you described, for content consumption. However, it is a travel companion when i fly out of state, and i leave my M2 MBA at home, which is my work computer. This is my third iPad, and i am considering the new M4 iPad Pro, i don’t think i really need it at this point, but i kinda want it! The only reason i can give is that after almost four years, the battery life on my current M1 iPad is beginning to fade…..😢😊
Almost nobody talks about iPad battery life. I only found 1 video that compared iPad runtimes. It compared the M4 Pro with the new M2 Air. The M4 11 and 13 run times were 44%-54% longer by my calculations. The new iPads also have the “charge to 80%” feature. To help increase battery longevity.
Seems all the other reviews assume everyone will be buying the extremely expensive accessories and storage upgrades and using it like a laptop and then complain it has lousy laptop software. But the primary purpose is to just look at the screen and for those who want the best possible mobile display. No other product has a display like this. MacBooks still use LCD (and will be for a while) and are heavier and more clumsy to carry around. Other OLED devices like phone screens are too small and TVs are not portable (and also expensive for high-end OLED tech). As you mentioned, an accurate, bright display would be helpful for photographers when editing and showcasing work to clients (sometimes outdoors). Big Businesses also often use iPads as tough screen kiosks and the high refresh and brightness helpful and the extra cost negligible for big corps. Also great for personal use consuming video content. The high specs, while not needed now, means it will last a really long time before needing replacing and new display tech beyond OLED is unlikely in the foreseeable future. Replacing devices is expensive so having the latest display tech now can negate the cost if it means you can skip a future upgrade cycle. Sure you can watch video on any device with decent quality these days; just like you can buy a cheap TV instead of a $2,000 one and still get a pretty good display. But there are videophiles just there are audiophiles and that is who this product is for. Bought on sale, the base 11” ipad pro may only cost around $800 which is a bargain compared to high end OLED TVs and you can’t carry a TV with you wherever you go.
I calculate that we have an iPad upgrade cycle of about 7+ years. I wanted an iPad that that would not struggle for performance and storage after 4 or 5 years. As he said in the video, he is still keeping his iPad Pro 2018. Hopefully, the new iPad Pro M4 will last us just as long.
Good video mate , I think you where more than fair , obviously it is a power house and with an awesome display and it is a nice tablet , but personally i couldn’t care less about being thin or a few grams lighter , I would rather apple left if a bit chubby and updated the cameras , maybe added an extra port or two, even give it a tad more battery . Thanks for the review.
Apple wanted a 3nm SoC for the M3 series and the iPhone 15 Pro before TSMC's N3E process node was ready, so TSMC custom built N3B for Apple just so they'd have a 3nm process node. N3B's yields are pretty bad, and manufacturing N3B is much more difficult so N3B chips are prettty expensive to produce. Now that N3E is available, Apple _desperately_ wants to retire N3B so Apple won't be putting A17 Pro and M3 SoCs in any more products. My guess is that Apple will run off a bunch of A17 Pros and M3 family chips and shut down the N3B process nodes, and if more are needed for replacement parts than are in their stock, they will swap broken devices containing them for newer model devices, so if your iPhone 15 Pro's mother board dies after they've run out of replacements, they'll give you an iPhone 16 Pro instead. _That,_ I think is why Apple put the M4 in the iPad Pro - they'd much rather have put the M4 into the MacBook Pro first, but didn't want to put any N3B components in their brand spankin' new iPad Pro. M4 and the A18 are all built on the N3E node which actually has a future roadmap to successive nodes like N3P at TSMC.
@@ytuser1985 both displays ( which actually should be considered as one because even though there are two screen panels they are detected on the operating system as a single entity by the driver ) have a refresh rate from 10hz-120hz, the frequency at which they can display an image is capped at 120, the perceived image rate by your eye is at 120hz ( they are in sync ) even though they would not be in sync, for instance they would alternate it would still be 120hz, why ? because this is the maximum number frequency at which a pixel can change color for both panels you talk about two images being pushed because there are two panels and therefore it should be 120+120hz but it does not work that way The framerate is determined by the number of frames per second that a display can show, it's at the display level ( which is therefore the combination of both panels ) not the cpu level and it's actually not true that the ipad produces two images : it renders only one that is then sent to the display driver to be interpreted by the display to be shown. iPad → renders 1 image → sends tondisplay driver → the image is being shown synchronously on both panels
I saw another tablet comparison with the front facing camera in a room with out studio lights , and the m4 iPad selfie video camera was just god awful , truly bad , just me , but I think apple dropped the ball with the cameras on the allegedly “ Pro iPad M4”. No doubt the cameras were sacrificed for the thinner form factor and cheaper unit manufacturing price not that it is cheap 😊.
To be truthful I don’t think anyone uses the built in camera on any ipad accept the FaceTime call camera. They should have removed the camera app on the 2024 models.
appreciate this review it was honest and fair to apple, yes I do believe that this device is grossly over priced and could have stayed at 799.00 the price of the new iPad Air cause lets face it guys it still an IPad using IPadOS Apple is just pushing all their prices up to keep their investors happy including me 😁 shameless plug. ill stay with my MacBook Air M2 for the next 4yrs until I see a real change in the Ipad.
If I am only doing it for note taking, schdeuling, emaling, storing lots of important PDFs (not more than 2-3GB), lots of ePub iBooks, no photo/videos and no gaming, editing from my external storage photos and videos, I guess this base model is okay? Anyone have any thoughts if I should stick to this 256GB or upgrade to 512GB based on my criteria?
@@cia4gent128 Thanks for your input! Not really, I don't really play games on tablets at all, prefer more to play on my PC, this iPad Pro M4 that I will get will be more focused on business apps for my online business, reading books, and storing PDFs, I have iCloud 2TB and my Macbook Pro where I can store contents there on the iCloud and sync over Apple Files and iBooks :)
256 should be enough, just note the read and write rite speeds of the 512 is faster and the obvious that its double the storage. If you can afford it, 512gb is a better options, it’s the one i want. I currently have 256gb on my 2020 iPad Pro and it did the job, but having more room for photos, videos , documents is way better. But i do not like iCloud, i like things on my own device.
@Everyday-man Wow the write speed on the 512GB is really big? I saw a video of Max Tech on the 256 vs 1TB, not much of a difference there for performance of apps, but is the read write speed you are refering to like the external hard drive speed? part of my business when using the iPad Pro is photo and video editing off an external hard drive like my Sandisk or Samsung SSD
@@patrickgamboa7270 The same as the 1tb I believe in read and write speed, sorry i didn’t mean a lot faster than the 256gb, but it is a bit faster from my understanding. From what you described, honestly you’ll likely be happy with the 256. Iva been using my 256gb for 4 years now. But i do have games, videos on my device. So i have to delete or larger files or apps to make room for new ones occasionally. I think if you can afford the 512 get it, if not the 256 will still be fantastic.
You were too tough on it you make it seem bad. It’s awesome sure it has some omissions but it makes up for it with the chip, display and maybe future os
I think the iPad is for anyone who wants it and will figure out how to use it. This guys is too lazy to learn to use it well so he just talks about using a laptop without even giving the keyboard and pencil a shot. The ipad is actually more flexible than any device with a permanently attached keyboard, but he can’t see that due to his closed mind, even when the ipad is faster and would have time. Be very careful of whom you get advice from.
@Adamtendo_player_1 S9 + &S9 ultra, water resistant, multitasking, edit drone video 4K , memory slot up to 1TB , display AMOLED, charged in 45watt , great for watching movies and editing videos same like apple for less money
What are you smoking?! The oled has better colors and inky blacks! and much brighter full screen! tell me one thing that the miniled is better at than the oled?! 🤣🤣
MiniLED is a beautiful screen, but Oled isn’t a downgrade. In many ways it’s an upgrade, Oled has actual true blacks instead on a darker grey/Blueish black and no more blooming. Oled also uses less power consumption, along side the M4 chip is the reason it was able to reduce weight / battery yet keep the same battery length.
This OLED is quite a bit better. The OLED is actually brighter and has better contrast. It’s also going to use less energy since it turns off pixels (which allowed them to make the device thinner). The response times are also significantly improved.
@@cia4gent128 OLED is too dim for a good HDR experience, has burn-in issues, and has poor text quality due to BGR pixel layout. Apple tried to bandage fix the low brightness of OLED by stacking two panels, but this will just introduce more failure points and longevity issues over time. OLED is a fundamentally flawed technology and it doesn't hold a candle to MiniLED at all, which can hit 3000+ nits in brightness with true blacks and essentially no blooming if the zone count is high.
Thank you for doing an 11 inch video. Tired of seeing only 13 reviews.
Was going to get the 1TB Model, but this 256GB base model will do just fine. Great honest review, thank you.
Great review. I don't think you were too hard on it. You kept it real. My iPad experience dates to the original. I upgraded to this one for 2 reasons. The FaceTime camera position and the screen. I've abandoned the illusion long ago that the iPad will replace the MacBook. I use both and love both. This new M4 11" is really cool and for me it was worth the upgrade. Man are the blacks and whites pure and it's a little snappier than the M2 11" it replaced, but yeah you're right, it's just an iPad, and that's ok.
Terrific and painless review! I now know I will stick with my M1/11 inch pro/256. It honestly does everything I need it to.
Sounds as if, for your uses, you only need an iPad Air at most. Artists are super excited about what both the new iPad Air and iPad Pro offers in terms of the new Apple Pencil Pro functions. People whose work relies on an iPad are the reviews that are most interesting. A lot of tech reviewers fail to see through these eyes.
I believe it supports 4K Pro Res if you attach external storage.
I am 85 and have IPHONE 15 and have 3 IPads 12.9 and have ordered IPAD PRO with 1TB plus key board , and pencil
Thats why you are the goat!
i’m 17 me too
Awesome!
Sounds like you are enjoying retirement! Good for you!
So What?
I have the same model , base version and am totaly Loving it , oled and performance as well
I am impressed with you and your review
All I wanted was the OLED. The basic iPad M4 11" was enough for me.
I upgraded to this from the first iPad Pro 9.7 and I couldn’t be happier.
We just upgraded from the iPad Pro 2017. The M4 Pro is the best iPad for people like us on a 7+ year upgrade cycle. 🤣
I bought the base model yesterday. I like it.
Microcenter has the M4 13 inch ipad pro for $1169. It is $131 cheaper than what Apple sells it for.
I got mine at Best Buy new for $1099
I currently have an iPad mini 4 (since 2016), and have been wanting to upgrade for the longest time but they haven't released a new mini model for some time. So I have been thinking of getting the base model iPad Pro, as I would like to draw and play some games and school stuff.
I was going to buy the 1tb model for the extra ram but seeing the performance in the 256 gb model, i don't think the extra ram is worth the extra cash.
I totally agree with ya 👍
Cheers for the video!
How long is battery life?
Feels a little weird to be referring to a $1000 computer as "base model". Like it gives the connotation that it's underpowered or lacks features somehow. I mean, there is no better version of the iPad Pro to get. Sure you can get more storage, but the performance and features aren't going to be any different if you get the 256gb or the 2Tb. So why call it "base model?" I don't know. Seems odd to me. When I think of base model I think of the 10th generation iPad.
The 1TB and 2TB versions get one more core to play with and 16GB of RAM vs one less core in the CPU and 8GB of RAM in the 256GB and 512GB.
It very well could have a performance change in the right situations especially with the extra RAM.
It’s literally the base model. Why would you call it anything else? To make yourself feel better? A base model BMW is still a base model before you add any bells or whistles to it.
You do get a small bump in performance for the 1/2 tb versions with the extra processing core and RAM. I think it’s something like 14%, though, nothing huge.
@@CujobobEven then, that boost is only in multicore performance. Everything else, single core, GPU, read/write speeds, is practically the same between the base and the 1TB. My assumption is that iPadOS is the bottleneck preventing true gains from that additional core and RAM, and so, unless WWDC introduces fairly fundamental changes to how apps are configured, the smart money is on the base model.
@@Andy-rc9db there’s no bottleneck. The apps haven’t optimized for it, most likely, or the extra RAM just isn’t needed for most things because the OS is so light.
Michael from the day I subscribed your channel I have enjoyed every video this one was no exception ....keep up the great work...can you do some more tips on iPhone and watch please 😀
Thanks for a very thoughtful and honest review, Michael. I appreciate 🙏🏿 your style and logical/ critical thinking 🤔 perspective. Keep up the great work, and I just subbed!
The problem, I think, is that it’s difficult to evaluate the iPad Pro without the keyboard and pencil (which, I know, makes it an even more expensive prospect). Without the peripherals, you have - as you say - got an expensive media consumption device. Add the peripherals and you have a powerful productivity machine.
Personally, for my use case, the iPad Pro acts as both tablet (for media consumption) and a near full laptop replacement. I am able to complete 95% of my productivity tasks frictionlessly on the iPad itself (I write, work with RAW/ProRes, and some basic content creation with the Pencil). However, I do need a desktop for that final 5%. But, conversely, I couldn’t mirror my current workflow entirely on a desktop. So, for me, the two together are complementary.
But, golly, it is an expensive device. And so I do agree that if Netflix, TH-cam, or whatever, is your primary use case, get the M2 - or even an Air.
Very informative brother. Thanks for sharing.
What you said at the end….facts. The novelty will wear off. It’s still an iPad. Nice, don’t get me wrong.
That’s what I keep telling myself while I’m so close to upgrading my m2 pro.
@@Treborray I have the 11 and really like it. But I didn’t have the M2
Excellent review
Screen is good also for night study. If you have to.Not just entertainment.
Hi thank you for this great video! Do you think this ipad can be good for gaming?
Very impressive. Best video I’ve ever seen.👍🎅🏼
Like most people - you missed the point when you compared it with your iPad Pro 2018. The new M4 Pro is probably the only iPad that will be running well in 7 or 8 years time. We just replaced our old iPad Pro 2017. I looked carefully at all the options and decide the iPad Pro M4 was - without a doubt - the best replacement.
Do you think that the 16 GB RAM version is worth it? There's not a lot of games on Apple that can like take advantage of it. Plus you would probably be streaming from your Xbox or Playstation. Also, not a lot of apps dont seem to need the 16 gigs either. And from what I've heard, there's only marginal upgrades
I think that’s what WWDC will show, so if you wait another week to order, you can still get within apple’s 14 day return policy if you need to upgrade or not 😂
@@TreyDongzz yeah I saw another video recently that said don't buy an iPad for what it is in the future. Buy one for what it is now. Because the guy bought an M2 pro thinking that they would announce something at that event last year, but it never came. I think they'll just add some minor updates to the OS, but they're not going to put mac os on iPad
Yes. Thanks for the 11” review. Also for the document scanning. I have a 12.9 Pro and am thinking of the 11” with a keyboard- to replace my aging 12” Macbook.
It's speculated that the OLED screen required a special processing. If that is true, then they would have had to redesign the M3 to include it.
That camera thingy is for finetuning scan of documents. Not auto adjust for outdoors.
Great review Michael. The recorded microphone sound came across really good in sound quality.
The speakers nearly sound the same as my 2018 iPad Pro. If there is a difference, I can’t tell.
Good an 11” review. My 11” pro 1st gen is still pretty good. Maybe I’ll upgrade in the future. Good review Michael as always 😊
You don’t need 1TB to watch Netflix.
Agreed. Though that additional storage and performance *may* be helpful to content creators and those who are working with RAW/ProRes… Albeit, the ability to work from an external hard drive somewhat mitigates the limitations of the base model(s).
As a contact creator, I need the additional storage, but I’m not getting 1TB model I’ve got the 512 GB model.
Nice video! Bro, can you add a link or mention what Gear you use? What camera?.. and lights. & how you shoot the ipad screen very clear without having reflection
The new design is the fancy background… the rest is as expected.
I don’t think that’s correct about the camera, multiple channels have reported that the camera is from the iPhone 11 which came out in 2019.
This terminal is for a least 5-6 years ?
Hope you do a how to use this IPAD PRO
Good review.
What app did you use to download music into Logic Pro for iPad? I’m a musician and could use the stem splitter in logic for many useful purposes. Thnx.
I need a tandem oled tv!
Wait. Is the 11 inch pro having the same dimensions as the 9th generation?
which Sony camera do you use?
I think you underestimate the iPad Pro M4, maybe for you it doesn’t serve a purpose but that doesn’t mean it’s the case for everyone for me. The M4 iPad Pro is going to be very useful for me and I know this video is like three months old but still relevant because I’m finally going to get my iPad Pro next week I’m excited but I do agree with you on some things. Maybe Apple could’ve put the M3 chip in inside the iPad Pro, but I do think that Apple put in the M-series Apple silicon inside the iPad Pro shows the Apple wants the iPad Pro to be the companion device to work alongside your MacBook Pro or MacBook Air was never intended to replace the Mac and I just hope that you’re not one of those people that thinks that apples should put macOS on the iPad Pro with all they really need is the developers to push level apps for the iPad Pro to fully take advantage of the M4 processor. I definitely think you were too harsh on it and that you didn’t give it a shot because you didn’t have the magic keyboard and Apple Pencil pro.
What is the screen like after longer use? I use my ipad Pro 2020 11 inch, which is LCD for work and leisure.
Emails, Teams, Excel, Word, movies, TV shows, procreate, and gaming. All combined, like 3 plus hours per day. Does the oled 1000 nits of brightness hurt your eyes with longer sittings??
I currently own the 2021 M1 iPad Pro 256gb and i use it mostly as you described, for content consumption. However, it is a travel companion when i fly out of state, and i leave my M2 MBA at home, which is my work computer. This is my third iPad, and i am considering the new M4 iPad Pro, i don’t think i really need it at this point, but i kinda want it! The only reason i can give is that after almost four years, the battery life on my current M1 iPad is beginning to fade…..😢😊
Almost nobody talks about iPad battery life. I only found 1 video that compared iPad runtimes. It compared the M4 Pro with the new M2 Air. The M4 11 and 13 run times were 44%-54% longer by my calculations. The new iPads also have the “charge to 80%” feature. To help increase battery longevity.
Seems all the other reviews assume everyone will be buying the extremely expensive accessories and storage upgrades and using it like a laptop and then complain it has lousy laptop software.
But the primary purpose is to just look at the screen and for those who want the best possible mobile display.
No other product has a display like this. MacBooks still use LCD (and will be for a while) and are heavier and more clumsy to carry around. Other OLED devices like phone screens are too small and TVs are not portable (and also expensive for high-end OLED tech).
As you mentioned, an accurate, bright display would be helpful for photographers when editing and showcasing work to clients (sometimes outdoors). Big Businesses also often use iPads as tough screen kiosks and the high refresh and brightness helpful and the extra cost negligible for big corps.
Also great for personal use consuming video content. The high specs, while not needed now, means it will last a really long time before needing replacing and new display tech beyond OLED is unlikely in the foreseeable future. Replacing devices is expensive so having the latest display tech now can negate the cost if it means you can skip a future upgrade cycle.
Sure you can watch video on any device with decent quality these days; just like you can buy a cheap TV instead of a $2,000 one and still get a pretty good display. But there are videophiles just there are audiophiles and that is who this product is for.
Bought on sale, the base 11” ipad pro may only cost around $800 which is a bargain compared to high end OLED TVs and you can’t carry a TV with you wherever you go.
I calculate that we have an iPad upgrade cycle of about 7+ years. I wanted an iPad that that would not struggle for performance and storage after 4 or 5 years. As he said in the video, he is still keeping his iPad Pro 2018. Hopefully, the new iPad Pro M4 will last us just as long.
Maybe a step towards a multi OS platform. iPad + iPad Pro Keyboard = MacOS.
Good video mate , I think you where more than fair , obviously it is a power house and with an awesome display and it is a nice tablet , but personally i couldn’t care less about being thin or a few grams lighter , I would rather apple left if a bit chubby and updated the cameras , maybe added an extra port or two, even give it a tad more battery .
Thanks for the review.
Apple wanted a 3nm SoC for the M3 series and the iPhone 15 Pro before TSMC's N3E process node was ready, so TSMC custom built N3B for Apple just so they'd have a 3nm process node.
N3B's yields are pretty bad, and manufacturing N3B is much more difficult so N3B chips are prettty expensive to produce. Now that N3E is available, Apple _desperately_ wants to retire N3B so Apple won't be putting A17 Pro and M3 SoCs in any more products.
My guess is that Apple will run off a bunch of A17 Pros and M3 family chips and shut down the N3B process nodes, and if more are needed for replacement parts than are in their stock, they will swap broken devices containing them for newer model devices, so if your iPhone 15 Pro's mother board dies after they've run out of replacements, they'll give you an iPhone 16 Pro instead.
_That,_ I think is why Apple put the M4 in the iPad Pro - they'd much rather have put the M4 into the MacBook Pro first, but didn't want to put any N3B components in their brand spankin' new iPad Pro.
M4 and the A18 are all built on the N3E node which actually has a future roadmap to successive nodes like N3P at TSMC.
Remember a base model that is only the best device ever made,I would say not so base, compared to anything other company would be their best
Technically the 10hz is actually 20hz for the processor due to the Tandem displays, and 120hz is 240hz, may be this is why Apple needed M4?
because there are two displays does not mean that the frames are pushed twice as fast to your eye
@@AllemandInstable processor will have to drive 2 displays, each at 120hz
@@ytuser1985 both displays ( which actually should be considered as one because even though there are two screen panels they are detected on the operating system as a single entity by the driver ) have a refresh rate from 10hz-120hz, the frequency at which they can display an image is capped at 120, the perceived image rate by your eye is at 120hz ( they are in sync )
even though they would not be in sync, for instance they would alternate it would still be 120hz, why ? because this is the maximum number frequency at which a pixel can change color for both panels
you talk about two images being pushed because there are two panels and therefore it should be 120+120hz but it does not work that way
The framerate is determined by the number of frames per second that a display can show, it's at the display level ( which is therefore the combination of both panels ) not the cpu level
and it's actually not true that the ipad produces two images : it renders only one that is then sent to the display driver to be interpreted by the display to be shown.
iPad → renders 1 image → sends tondisplay driver → the image is being shown synchronously on both panels
I saw another tablet comparison with the front facing camera in a room with out studio lights , and the m4 iPad selfie video camera was just god awful , truly bad , just me , but I think apple dropped the ball with the cameras on the allegedly “ Pro iPad M4”.
No doubt the cameras were sacrificed for the thinner form factor and cheaper unit manufacturing price not that it is cheap 😊.
This is for content creators who prefer a pure touch interface.
To be truthful I don’t think anyone uses the built in camera on any ipad accept the FaceTime call camera. They should have removed the camera app on the 2024 models.
I guess you take pictures with the iPad
I have the M2 iPad Pro 12.9 256 GB/16 ram and will not be upgraded
appreciate this review it was honest and fair to apple, yes I do believe that this device is grossly over priced and could have stayed at 799.00 the price of the new iPad Air cause lets face it guys it still an IPad using IPadOS Apple is just pushing all their prices up to keep their investors happy including me 😁 shameless plug. ill stay with my MacBook Air M2 for the next 4yrs until I see a real change in the Ipad.
Avevo preso il 13 lo trovato scomodo per il mio utilizzo tornato al 11 pollici troppo comodo
lol apple is selling us a computer piece by piece
I purchased m2 12.9 ipad pro with mini led display with 512 GB wifi only and its around 30000 ₹ cheaper in india .
I wouldn’t say the cheapest. I would say the less expensive.
its ok people hardly use iPad Camara😊😊😊😊
If I am only doing it for note taking, schdeuling, emaling, storing lots of important PDFs (not more than 2-3GB), lots of ePub iBooks, no photo/videos and no gaming, editing from my external storage photos and videos, I guess this base model is okay? Anyone have any thoughts if I should stick to this 256GB or upgrade to 512GB based on my criteria?
I got the 256gb…it’s more than enough! if you do gaming a lot then get the 512gb…
@@cia4gent128 Thanks for your input! Not really, I don't really play games on tablets at all, prefer more to play on my PC, this iPad Pro M4 that I will get will be more focused on business apps for my online business, reading books, and storing PDFs, I have iCloud 2TB and my Macbook Pro where I can store contents there on the iCloud and sync over Apple Files and iBooks :)
256 should be enough, just note the read and write rite speeds of the 512 is faster and the obvious that its double the storage. If you can afford it, 512gb is a better options, it’s the one i want. I currently have 256gb on my 2020 iPad Pro and it did the job, but having more room for photos, videos , documents is way better. But i do not like iCloud, i like things on my own device.
@Everyday-man Wow the write speed on the 512GB is really big? I saw a video of Max Tech on the 256 vs 1TB, not much of a difference there for performance of apps, but is the read write speed you are refering to like the external hard drive speed? part of my business when using the iPad Pro is photo and video editing off an external hard drive like my Sandisk or Samsung SSD
@@patrickgamboa7270 The same as the 1tb I believe in read and write speed, sorry i didn’t mean a lot faster than the 256gb, but it is a bit faster from my understanding. From what you described, honestly you’ll likely be happy with the 256. Iva been using my 256gb for 4 years now. But i do have games, videos on my device. So i have to delete or larger files or apps to make room for new ones occasionally. I think if you can afford the 512 get it, if not the 256 will still be fantastic.
your ipad has a dead pixel
A curious question: Are there people over eighty years of age who are very elderly people who own modern smart phones?!!!!
My mother owned a Pixel 5 and she was 85. She used it for video calls and normal phone calls. She also took pictures with it.
@@Ryuuie What do you have now?
@@Kale-w5t My mother passed last August unfortunately but I personally have an iPhone 15 Pro Max.
Yes, but I was an IT specialist for over 50 years
My 80 year old grandmother uses a z fold 5 so yes, a few do
Magical piece of glass doesn't sound cringey, I would describe most great tablets that way.
Guys, listen… this is insane! No m4 pro , no air !! Just go for pro m2!!! It’s like 700$ 11 / 900$ 12.9
No thanks. I paid $323 for an 11 inch M4 iPad Pro 512 GB and Apple Pencil pro after using my gift cards and Apple Cash and using the student discount.
I think if someone can buy the m4, go for m4. It is much better.
Tbr its a 200 dollar dif for something new and not like 5 years old😂
My ipad pro 6th gen is still like new. Im skipping this nonsense and waiting to see next year or 2
No, returned mine after a day. Speakers are inferior to the 2018 iPad Pro.
You hands are huge😂
You were too tough on it you make it seem bad. It’s awesome sure it has some omissions but it makes up for it with the chip, display and maybe future os
sounds like a tin can, display beautiful, iPods for movies. microcenter M4=$1170...M2=$980
What? This iPad sounds better than the newest MacBooks! Lol and i got the 11” 256gb for $999 and the m2 base storage is 128gb.
I think the iPad is for anyone who wants it and will figure out how to use it. This guys is too lazy to learn to use it well so he just talks about using a laptop without even giving the keyboard and pencil a shot. The ipad is actually more flexible than any device with a permanently attached keyboard, but he can’t see that due to his closed mind, even when the ipad is faster and would have time. Be very careful of whom you get advice from.
Samsung S9 cheaper and better is coming S10
It may be cheaper, but there hasn’t been a Samsung tablet that’s beaten iPad Pro.
@Adamtendo_player_1 S9 + &S9 ultra, water resistant, multitasking, edit drone video 4K , memory slot up to 1TB , display AMOLED, charged in 45watt , great for watching movies and editing videos same like apple for less money
@@amigoucsf2009ableI saw some comparisons between both. Samsung is good, but iPad is better.
The M4 base has 8gb of ram, and so does the M2 air 😂 Buy the air. If you are doing video editing, get a macbook.
They are not the same just because they have the same RAM.
OLED is a massive downgrade from MiniLED (don't think the previous 11 inch had it, only the larger one). Very disappointing from Apple.
What are you smoking?! The oled has better colors and inky blacks! and much brighter full screen! tell me one thing that the miniled is better at than the oled?! 🤣🤣
MiniLED is a beautiful screen, but Oled isn’t a downgrade. In many ways it’s an upgrade, Oled has actual true blacks instead on a darker grey/Blueish black and no more blooming. Oled also uses less power consumption, along side the M4 chip is the reason it was able to reduce weight / battery yet keep the same battery length.
I would disagree. The mini LED was great but nothing like the Tandem OLED. On the M4 pure blacks and pure whites are like nothing else.
This OLED is quite a bit better. The OLED is actually brighter and has better contrast. It’s also going to use less energy since it turns off pixels (which allowed them to make the device thinner). The response times are also significantly improved.
@@cia4gent128 OLED is too dim for a good HDR experience, has burn-in issues, and has poor text quality due to BGR pixel layout. Apple tried to bandage fix the low brightness of OLED by stacking two panels, but this will just introduce more failure points and longevity issues over time. OLED is a fundamentally flawed technology and it doesn't hold a candle to MiniLED at all, which can hit 3000+ nits in brightness with true blacks and essentially no blooming if the zone count is high.