Good discussion on the rivnut. I think they have their place for light duty applications and have had decent success with them. One thing about corrosion is to watch out for dissimilar metals as they will corrode with any moisture, especially in a salt application. The fire truck mixed mild steel, aluminum diamond plate and stainless fasteners. Learned that as a shipboard electrician and electrical engineer working on cathodic protection. Rivnuts are often over crushed during installation, another no no. A healthy bulge is all you want, not squashed flat
1:45 ~ DUDE!!! Solder sticks are a TOTAL game changer! I don't know if you've had the pleasure of using a soldier stick yet, but trust me when I tell you to order a small trial kit. It will change EVERYTHING you thought you knew about automotive electrical!
Rivnuts are absolute great and a real time saver until they aren't. I still use them and they have their place but a cross member ain't one of them. My thoughts are if its thick enough to tap then tap it, if its accessible from behind bolt it, if its removable weld a nut on the back of it, if not any of those and it won't kill you when it fails or its not yours and your not responsible to fix it, put a rivnut in it. I have 4 holding the "temporary" aluminum sign that says danger high voltage over the hole in my bed through which I first installed with a couple of self tappers when tech said I should have something covering the battery and that's what I could scrounge up. Self tappers only work for the first 2 times you take it off the "temporary" cover and I am smart enough not to ask my wife to crawl under than and put a wrench on that nut while I remove the button head bolt that replaces the self tapper so rivnut it is. When one of those fails maybe I will make a "permanent" fix... don't get me wrong, I have spent hours fixing something after that 3 minute time saver failed before, but I think its human nature to forget how expensive and painful things are or there wouldn't be quite so many people or hot rods in this world.
I don't hate the rivnuts in the right situation. I use them to hold down a trim panel around my Long shifter on the transmission tunnel and they seem to work ok. I do agree on the other things though. Liked the video.
I agree with your disdain for those 3M-type wire connectors. They should be called Insulation Destroyers! I never used them, but what would happen if you used one and then wrapped it with shrink insulation and then heated the tape? Just asking.
I agree with all but the rivnut as well. Blind places sometimes a rivnut can be a useful attachment point. I agree its not for major components and places that get weathered generally.
I have never used a rivnut..but after your story and working on several cars with rusty " clipnuts" I guess youd call them on fenderwells and such..ill never put one in something
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Good discussion on the rivnut. I think they have their place for light duty applications and have had decent success with them. One thing about corrosion is to watch out for dissimilar metals as they will corrode with any moisture, especially in a salt application. The fire truck mixed mild steel, aluminum diamond plate and stainless fasteners. Learned that as a shipboard electrician and electrical engineer working on cathodic protection. Rivnuts are often over crushed during installation, another no no. A healthy bulge is all you want, not squashed flat
Thanks, for your knowledge, great information
1:45 ~ DUDE!!! Solder sticks are a TOTAL game changer!
I don't know if you've had the pleasure of using a soldier stick yet, but trust me when I tell you to order a small trial kit.
It will change EVERYTHING you thought you knew about automotive electrical!
Rivnuts are absolute great and a real time saver until they aren't. I still use them and they have their place but a cross member ain't one of them. My thoughts are if its thick enough to tap then tap it, if its accessible from behind bolt it, if its removable weld a nut on the back of it, if not any of those and it won't kill you when it fails or its not yours and your not responsible to fix it, put a rivnut in it. I have 4 holding the "temporary" aluminum sign that says danger high voltage over the hole in my bed through which I first installed with a couple of self tappers when tech said I should have something covering the battery and that's what I could scrounge up. Self tappers only work for the first 2 times you take it off the "temporary" cover and I am smart enough not to ask my wife to crawl under than and put a wrench on that nut while I remove the button head bolt that replaces the self tapper so rivnut it is. When one of those fails maybe I will make a "permanent" fix... don't get me wrong, I have spent hours fixing something after that 3 minute time saver failed before, but I think its human nature to forget how expensive and painful things are or there wouldn't be quite so many people or hot rods in this world.
I don't hate the rivnuts in the right situation. I use them to hold down a trim panel around my Long shifter on the transmission tunnel and they seem to work ok. I do agree on the other things though. Liked the video.
Yes I have to agree, in the right situation they are OK.
I agree with your disdain for those 3M-type wire connectors. They should be called Insulation Destroyers! I never used them, but what would happen if you used one and then wrapped it with shrink insulation and then heated the tape? Just asking.
I agree with all but the rivnut as well. Blind places sometimes a rivnut can be a useful attachment point. I agree its not for major components and places that get weathered generally.
I have never used a rivnut..but after your story and working on several cars with rusty " clipnuts" I guess youd call them on fenderwells and such..ill never put one in something
Jeep is rivnut offender