I cannot say definitively whether he was safe or out, and I don't know what the umpire saw....what I can say is everyone is putting focus on that left foot, and not enough on the right foot which was stuck on the catchers foot....There is no clear shot of whether the glove hit that right foot or not, but im willing to bet that that is what the umpire what looking at, and that he saw a tag on that foot.....clearly, if you just look at the left foot at the end he's safe, but I believe there was a tag on the right one, and the left foot tag was a second tag.
I have to say, even if John Tumpane blew that call, I respect him saying what he thought he saw. Lots of times you see umpires have the attitude like "He's out because I said so. Now go sit down". John Tumpane is a decent umpire with a good ratio of correct calls, somewhere in the high 80%, which is like in the top 10 for umpires.
The umpire "knows baseball." He just got the call wrong. Either he thought the first swipe got the runner or the runner's attempt to touch the plate failed. On a bang-bang play like this, once in a while the ump will get it wrong... he's human.
I think that was the right call. First time the runner touched the plate was after he stepped over the plate with his left leg and then he reached back and touched the plate for the first time. You can see that at 0:51. The first time the catcher made the tag was when he swiped trying to tag and it hit the runners right shoe. You can see that at 1:31 and in the same spot you can see when the runner reaches back to make the first contact with the plate.
I like Maddon. He's a great manager. It's just funny watching him arguing and getting ejected because he always runs out of the dugout with his arms out like, "Whaaaaaaat?"
+Jake Jones In my opinion, Maddon is ALWAYS mild-mannered until someone (usually an ump) does or says something stupid to him. Maddon seems to have a LOT of respect for the umps and other teams until the umps or other teams take a dump on him.
He completely missed him on the sweep tag. All you need to look at is the reaction of the catcher. If the catcher thought he got him, he wouldn't have gone back to tag him a "second" time.
Looked like he may have tagged his right heel with the swipe tag. Maybe not, but that's what the umpire was telling the runner. Two things are for sure...the umpire waited to see if the ball was retained by the catcher before he signaled, and he had the best view of the play. Even the replay is not 100% conclusive and people here are on both sides of the fence.
After watching the replay from all the different angles presented in the video, the big question is : Look at the replay on 1:43 - Was the swipe tag made on the runner's right foot, or not? On the other hand, on 1:09, it looks like the catcher's glove hits the dirt and misses.
your absolutely correct, the umpire made a very detailed correct close call. All these people are looking at the final followup tag, that is not the swipe tage that reaches him before either foot touches the bag.
Safe by a mile. He slid over the base then he put it foot back on that doesn't mean he missed it intierly it just means the ump wasn't paying attention to the first part.
I have to commend Maddon for getting out there as quickly as he did. He took the heat so Ruggiano could stay in the game. I’m a life-long #Cubs fan, and have only been familiar with Maddon for a year or two, but one of the things I love most about Maddon is that he REALLY sticks up for his players. I think he’s also a fair manager, in the sense that I remember him saying something earlier THIS season (2016) about how the Cubs would never start something, but once the other team starts something, the Cubs’ll definitely fight back and finish it. I think he also trusts his guys a lot more than some managers do when the crap hits the fan like it did here. Ruggiano knew he was safe, and Maddon trusted his player’s judgment enough to go out on the field and justifiably take the proverbial bullet for him.
I think he might have been OUT. The catcher made two attempts at tagging the runner. The first attempt was on the runner's RIGHT foot, as the runner missed the plate. The second attempt was on the runner's LEFT foot, after he had already touched the plate. Appeared as if the first attempt was a success, therefore he is OUT!! However, it's not clear and conclusive, so the call on the field stands. :/
Just a comment about the commentators: An umpire takes his time to make calls because of the 100 things that can happen after a tag. lets say he tagged him and the umpire signals out right away and the ball comes rolling out. There is no rush to make an out call, he is out regardless of when you signal. I'm, not saying it was the right call in this case, but a delayed signal does not mean the umpire is automatically wrong.
Ump got the call right but not by what he was signaling as the reason. The catcher got the runner's right foot on the initial swipe tag while the left foot was above the plate. Sheer luck.
The runners right foot is blocked by the catcher and the left foot doesn't touch till after the catcher swipes the right foot. The video is too grainy and fast to definitively say he missed tagging the right foot, here on TH-cam.
Why no obstruction? It's the catchers leg being in the way that stops him getting clean over the base on the first attempt. He clearly impedes the runner.
I looked closely. The foot the runner was leading with hadn't even touched the plate. It went around it and his other foot wasn't touching the plate as well.
You're right in that Ruggiano initially slid around the plate. Avila missed the swipe tag. However, Ruggiano reached back with his foot to touch the plate (you can see that the dirt has been wiped off of the plate where he touched it) before the tag was applied to his foot.
First swipe missed and then the runner misses the plate then the runner moves foot tags plate and THEN catcher tags runner but not till after he is safe.
He clearly reached back with his foot and had his foot touching the plate prior to the tag. watch at 0:52 ....the foot is on the plate and the glove comes in after on top of the foot
I'm sure that baseball gets the calls right more now with replay, but can't help but miss the old days of the argument and manager getting thrown out. Grew up watching baseball like that. Oh well, still, once in a while they still get nose to nose.
I sometimes hate announcers the umpire has to do so many things I would want them to try to be an umpire, they were like " they should be yelling at the umpire" like wat the hell
If Joe Maddon is losing, he can argue. He was safe. John Tumpane should be fired. Let him have it, Joe. He blew the call. Delfin Colon knows that if you miss a call as a minor league umpire, you will probably get thrown out. John Tumpane needs to get glasses. I am sure Gerry Davis would not miss a call because he is a veteran umpire.
1:43 Original swipe tag from catcher misses BUT so does the original slide because of the catcher's foot blocking. However, still with no tag applied the runner's foot comes back and tags clearly at 1:45 with the catcher's glove close (about five inches away) but clearly not touching him until after the runner's foot has safely touched home plate. The runner is safe. As fast as this play happened though I can't say it was a bad call, the ump called what he saw. There are people still arguing safe or out in the comments although the call should be clear now being able to pause the video and see it clearly. Try making a correct call in a tenth of a second real time without youtube, give the umps credit for being surprisingly very accurate.
After the baseman catches the ball, that must be a strikeout. After the strikeout and if the runner continues to run to the home plate, that should be safe when he slides off to the home plate. If the pitcher comes with his glove and does not receive the ball yet, that should be a limitation of length open play penalty. If the pitcher was at home plate and had the ball from a different pitcher with the catcher, that should be ejected. That makes the runner is safe. I think the call is wrong.
The bad call is one thing but the official like to be in the spotlight, thats why he is waiting so long. This is the big problem for me. Thats why I love the NFL more. In the NFL the officials understand their role in the game - in the MLB not! MLB you have a big problem
+mouseno4 It may not have been able to be “applied” in this particular play, but I’m glad that MLB is finally coming to their senses and is using IR now to settle some of these obviously blown calls.
stop the vid at 1:09 and tell me if you see the tag, thats what its all about...but if the ump only calls the second tag, then he really blown it up badly (umpire fan here)
Horrible call. Ump may have thought he got tagged with the swipe tag. The catcher did a good job blocking the plate if he actually tagged him with his first attempt he may have been out.
The runner's left foot slide in and touched the home plate he was safe I don't know what the home plate umpire was looking at he should have asked for help.
This is why we should have replay reviews for all calls. Umpires are human and they only have two sets of eyeballs so they can only see the play from one angle and cannot review it by themselves.
Touching the catcher's leg does not constitute a tag. Under Rule 2.00 (bottom of page 21 in the MLB Rules PDF), a tag is the act of touching a base with his body while having possession and control of the ball (only on a force play), or touching the runner with the ball, or touching the runner with the hand or glove that has the ball. The catcher's first tag was to the runner's foot, while it was already in contact with home plate. Safe.
Wow.. at first I thought the ump blew it completely. Then, with the better camera angles, you see clearly that the runner slid into the catcher's foot and didn't touch the plate on the way through. And THEN you realize that the catcher missed his first tag! The runner got back to the plate before the catcher found him. Blown call, but a damn tough one. Just think, we got multiple replays and can rewind. The plate ump has to make this call in a split second, on one look. Cut him some slack.
I think that may have been the right call the front leg is the distraction. It is the heal of the back foot that got swipe tagged before the plate is touched, the front leg misses the bag, yet the catchers foot blocks the back foot of the runner. The umpire confuses you by paying attention to the 3rd followup tag. watch very closely..
Initially the runner did not touch the plate, and the catcher did not tag the runner; that's why the umpire made no call. The runner should have kept this foot on the plate until there was a call made by the umpire. In the end, the umpire got this one wrong, the runner was clearly safe. That umpire was very young, looked to be about 25...really young for an MLB umpire.
First the people that think he is out! Bull crap look at it at the second angle! Yes he did miss the plate on the slide but the catcher missed him on the tag! And if you think he got him on the tag them why did he try to tag him on the second try and the runners foot was on the plate before the second tag! So yea safe!
...and I pretty huch have to repeat my question. Why is it that you have to tag someone with your glove when there are times a catcher will cover home plate, get run into by the runner, but the runner is out if the catcher holds on to the ball (without tagging him with it). I guess this is why I'm only interested in baseball when hockey ends and before football begins.
I don't really know how to respond to this...I pretty much have to repeat myself...He went into the catchers legs but by the time he tagged him with the ball, his foot was already in...He needs to tag him to get the out, not just make contact with the person...Must tag him with the ball that is either in his glove, or his hand..thats all there is to it
Okay, you obviously do not know the rules very well...You need to tag the runner with the BALL, when the catcher is holding the ball and the runner makes contact with his foot, he still needs to tag him in order to get the out, you don't get an out by making contact with any body part when holding the ball, you need to tag him..He was safe
Catchers left leg blocked runners right leg from reaching home plate. Runner was aware, so the runner threw his left leg onto home plate. By that time the runners right leg MAY OR MAY NOT had already been tagged. Dirt was an obstacle. Its tricky. Were all winners...deep inside.
His foot was on the plate before he was tagged he's safe. Also you got to be pretty stupid if you think hes out because he ran into the catcher when he had the ball. Ive played catcher since t ball and I know for a fact that is not true. You need to be tagged by the ball, not the catcher's fucking leg.
I don't know why, all I know is that that's the rule...I cant give you a reason for it, its just in the rulebook, I guess that's my answer to you...In baseball, you gata tag with the ball, whether hes covering home plate or not it means nothing if you don't tag him
You have to tag the runner with the ball? Then what about them times the catcher stands over home plate, the runner slamms into him, but the runner is out if the catcher held on to the ball? A bit of a double standard there. I guess that's why I don't really watch baseball, it's gay.
swipe tag got his right foot you can see the glove wobble from the hit. and then he touches the base and then the catcher touches him again. good call.
The slide was completely off centered, but the swipe tag missed the runner by at least an inch. The mitt never touched him. Then the runner tagged the plate with his back foot and the actual tag was applied while the runner was safe.
He Was Safe, The Catcher Never Tagged Him Until He Had Already Touched Home Plate & The Runner Was Already Safe. Ump Was In Some High Shit Cuz He Waited For To Long To Give The Call & He Was Like Dumb Fucked He Didnt Even Know Wat To Call!!!
what the ump saw was that the catcher blocked the initial slide, but didn't see that he missed the tag. if he tagged him before he brought his other foot around to the plate, he would've been out. play & pause watch it frame by frame
He Was Safe, The Catcher Never Tagged Him Until He Had Already Touched The Runner. Ump Was In Some High Shit Cuz He Waited For To Long To Give The Call & He Was Like Dumb Fucked He Didnt Even Know Wat To Call!!!
not true. As an umpire you pause, you read, you react. This method prevents you from making a call too soon. So if there is a dropped ball you are not calling out when the ball is on the ground.
Why would the runner have the ball? What in the world are you talking about? Yeah, that's the only time I'm interested in baseball. I'm not being passionate about it. I'm just telling it like it is.
The catcher clearly missed the tag he tagged after he already touch the base. If you agree with the umpire, then you and the umpire don't know baseball.
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That was a terrible call.
Strap on the gear Sam. If not shut up!!!!!
I cannot say definitively whether he was safe or out, and I don't know what the umpire saw....what I can say is everyone is putting focus on that left foot, and not enough on the right foot which was stuck on the catchers foot....There is no clear shot of whether the glove hit that right foot or not, but im willing to bet that that is what the umpire what looking at, and that he saw a tag on that foot.....clearly, if you just look at the left foot at the end he's safe, but I believe there was a tag on the right one, and the left foot tag was a second tag.
How the hell did he miss that call? He was in a perfect position
I have to say, even if John Tumpane blew that call, I respect him saying what he thought he saw. Lots of times you see umpires have the attitude like "He's out because I said so. Now go sit down". John Tumpane is a decent umpire with a good ratio of correct calls, somewhere in the high 80%, which is like in the top 10 for umpires.
The umpire "knows baseball." He just got the call wrong. Either he thought the first swipe got the runner or the runner's attempt to touch the plate failed. On a bang-bang play like this, once in a while the ump will get it wrong... he's human.
I think that was the right call. First time the runner touched the plate was after he stepped over the plate with his left leg and then he reached back and touched the plate for the first time. You can see that at 0:51. The first time the catcher made the tag was when he swiped trying to tag and it hit the runners right shoe. You can see that at 1:31 and in the same spot you can see when the runner reaches back to make the first contact with the plate.
I like Maddon. He's a great manager. It's just funny watching him arguing and getting ejected because he always runs out of the dugout with his arms out like, "Whaaaaaaat?"
Wow, what a horrible call. I'd say considering how bad that call was, Maddon was downright mild-mannered.
+Jake Jones In my opinion, Maddon is ALWAYS mild-mannered until someone (usually an ump) does or says something stupid to him. Maddon seems to have a LOT of respect for the umps and other teams until the umps or other teams take a dump on him.
He completely missed him on the sweep tag. All you need to look at is the reaction of the catcher. If the catcher thought he got him, he wouldn't have gone back to tag him a "second" time.
Looked like he may have tagged his right heel with the swipe tag. Maybe not, but that's what the umpire was telling the runner. Two things are for sure...the umpire waited to see if the ball was retained by the catcher before he signaled, and he had the best view of the play. Even the replay is not 100% conclusive and people here are on both sides of the fence.
After watching the replay from all the different angles presented in the video, the big question is : Look at the replay on 1:43 - Was the swipe tag made on the runner's right foot, or not? On the other hand, on 1:09, it looks like the catcher's glove hits the dirt and misses.
your absolutely correct, the umpire made a very detailed correct close call. All these people are looking at the final followup tag, that is not the swipe tage that reaches him before either foot touches the bag.
Safe by a mile. He slid over the base then he put it foot back on that doesn't mean he missed it intierly it just means the ump wasn't paying attention to the first part.
I have to commend Maddon for getting out there as quickly as he did. He took the heat so Ruggiano could stay in the game. I’m a life-long #Cubs fan, and have only been familiar with Maddon for a year or two, but one of the things I love most about Maddon is that he REALLY sticks up for his players.
I think he’s also a fair manager, in the sense that I remember him saying something earlier THIS season (2016) about how the Cubs would never start something, but once the other team starts something, the Cubs’ll definitely fight back and finish it. I think he also trusts his guys a lot more than some managers do when the crap hits the fan like it did here. Ruggiano knew he was safe, and Maddon trusted his player’s judgment enough to go out on the field and justifiably take the proverbial bullet for him.
I think he might have been OUT. The catcher made two attempts at tagging the runner. The first attempt was on the runner's RIGHT foot, as the runner missed the plate. The second attempt was on the runner's LEFT foot, after he had already touched the plate. Appeared as if the first attempt was a success, therefore he is OUT!! However, it's not clear and conclusive, so the call on the field stands. :/
That was terrible! He safe.
His foot went under the glove and he slid on the base before he tagged him so he was SAFE!!
OUT!!! Clearly he tag him in the foot, you can see it in minute 1:43 before Ruggiano touched the plate. Goog call by the ump.
Just a comment about the commentators: An umpire takes his time to make calls because of the 100 things that can happen after a tag. lets say he tagged him and the umpire signals out right away and the ball comes rolling out. There is no rush to make an out call, he is out regardless of when you signal. I'm, not saying it was the right call in this case, but a delayed signal does not mean the umpire is automatically wrong.
Ump got the call right but not by what he was signaling as the reason. The catcher got the runner's right foot on the initial swipe tag while the left foot was above the plate. Sheer luck.
The runners right foot is blocked by the catcher and the left foot doesn't touch till after the catcher swipes the right foot. The video is too grainy and fast to definitively say he missed tagging the right foot, here on TH-cam.
HE WAS OUT! LOOK AT RUNNER RIGHT LEG. THE RIGHT LEG!!! TUCKED UNDER HIS BODY, IT WAS TOUCHING THE CATCHER'S FOOT AFTER CATCHER CAUGHT BALL...OUT!!
He was out, pause at 0:52 you can se the catcher tag him before he touches home plate.
man I sure do miss maddon
"you're fucking wrong! You're fucking wrong! You're fucking wrong!"
You mean the same exact tag you can see at 1:30 ish where he misses the tag?
thought so.
it does look like he is tagged on his right foot as he is sliding.
Why no obstruction? It's the catchers leg being in the way that stops him getting clean over the base on the first attempt. He clearly impedes the runner.
damninfieldfly A catcher in possession of the ball has freedom to be in the runners pathway.
I looked closely. The foot the runner was leading with hadn't even touched the plate. It went around it and his other foot wasn't touching the plate as well.
His foot was DEFINITELY touching the plate at one point, no question about that. The only question is when the tag was first applied.
You're right in that Ruggiano initially slid around the plate. Avila missed the swipe tag. However, Ruggiano reached back with his foot to touch the plate (you can see that the dirt has been wiped off of the plate where he touched it) before the tag was applied to his foot.
He is clearly out; the catchers foot blocked the runners foot and then he applied the tag. Runner never touched home until he was tagged out.
are you blind? yes the catcher foot block him at first but then his other foot drop and touch the home plate before the tag. Safe
Le tuan linh Never happened. He NEVER touched the plate whatsoever
Justin Ricci Eh, he touched home plate with his left foot, but only after his right foot (the foot stuck on the catcher) had been tagged.
Justin Ricci 1:07 there's a timestamp for ya
First swipe missed and then the runner misses the plate then the runner moves foot tags plate and THEN catcher tags runner but not till after he is safe.
Good call
WHAT
Wow. Blew that one
He NEVER touched the plate. This was a good call.
He clearly reached back with his foot and had his foot touching the plate prior to the tag. watch at 0:52 ....the foot is on the plate and the glove comes in after on top of the foot
I'm sure that baseball gets the calls right more now with replay, but can't help but miss the old days of the argument and manager getting thrown out. Grew up watching baseball like that. Oh well, still, once in a while they still get nose to nose.
I sometimes hate announcers the umpire has to do so many things I would want them to try to be an umpire, they were like " they should be yelling at the umpire" like wat the hell
If Joe Maddon is losing, he can argue. He was safe. John Tumpane should be fired. Let him have it, Joe. He blew the call. Delfin Colon knows that if you miss a call as a minor league umpire, you will probably get thrown out. John Tumpane needs to get glasses. I am sure Gerry Davis would not miss a call because he is a veteran umpire.
What a fucking idiotic comment. Because you think he missed a call, he should be fired. Who's going to umpire your games, moron?
Maddon:"Your fucking wrong!"
1:43 Original swipe tag from catcher misses BUT so does the original slide because of the catcher's foot blocking. However, still with no tag applied the runner's foot comes back and tags clearly at 1:45 with the catcher's glove close (about five inches away) but clearly not touching him until after the runner's foot has safely touched home plate. The runner is safe.
As fast as this play happened though I can't say it was a bad call, the ump called what he saw. There are people still arguing safe or out in the comments although the call should be clear now being able to pause the video and see it clearly. Try making a correct call in a tenth of a second real time without youtube, give the umps credit for being surprisingly very accurate.
After the baseman catches the ball, that must be a strikeout. After the strikeout and if the runner continues to run to the home plate, that should be safe when he slides off to the home plate. If the pitcher comes with his glove and does not receive the ball yet, that should be a limitation of length open play penalty. If the pitcher was at home plate and had the ball from a different pitcher with the catcher, that should be ejected. That makes the runner is safe. I think the call is wrong.
The bad call is one thing but the official like to be in the spotlight, thats why he is waiting so long. This is the big problem for me. Thats why I love the NFL more. In the NFL the officials understand their role in the game - in the MLB not!
MLB you have a big problem
I'm a huge tigers fan and tbh Ruggiano was safe, his right foot touched homeplate first
I remember this game, it was the Tigers who won in 10 innings, 2-1.
Slow the video down to 0.25 and you can plainly see the umpire blew the call. BUT keep in mind, WE can slow it down, those umpires cant!
+mouseno4 It may not have been able to be “applied” in this particular play, but I’m glad that MLB is finally coming to their senses and is using IR now to settle some of these obviously blown calls.
He gets the foot on the initial swip tag. They even admit it later in this game when they look again. He was legit out.
stop the vid at 1:09 and tell me if you see the tag, thats what its all about...but if the ump only calls the second tag, then he really blown it up badly (umpire fan here)
If Maddon felt the call was wrong, why didn't he signal for video review? Can this not be reviewed? I thought safe/out can be reviewed.
Horrible call. Ump may have thought he got tagged with the swipe tag. The catcher did a good job blocking the plate if he actually tagged him with his first attempt he may have been out.
If the batter hits the ball to the basemen with a popover fly ball to the baseman, that should be a strikeout penalty or getting a strikeout. 0:09
Yeah next time you make a mistake at your job, you're being demoted.
Jesus people are dumb.
The runner's left foot slide in and touched the home plate he was safe I don't know what the home plate umpire was looking at he should have asked for help.
This is why we should have replay reviews for all calls. Umpires are human and they only have two sets of eyeballs so they can only see the play from one angle and cannot review it by themselves.
Touching the catcher's leg does not constitute a tag. Under Rule 2.00 (bottom of page 21 in the MLB Rules PDF), a tag is the act of touching a base with his body while having possession and control of the ball (only on a force play), or touching the runner with the ball, or touching the runner with the hand or glove that has the ball. The catcher's first tag was to the runner's foot, while it was already in contact with home plate. Safe.
Wow.. at first I thought the ump blew it completely. Then, with the better camera angles, you see clearly that the runner slid into the catcher's foot and didn't touch the plate on the way through. And THEN you realize that the catcher missed his first tag! The runner got back to the plate before the catcher found him. Blown call, but a damn tough one. Just think, we got multiple replays and can rewind. The plate ump has to make this call in a split second, on one look. Cut him some slack.
I think that may have been the right call the front leg is the distraction. It is the heal of the back foot that got swipe tagged before the plate is touched, the front leg misses the bag, yet the catchers foot blocks the back foot of the runner. The umpire confuses you by paying attention to the 3rd followup tag. watch very closely..
Initially the runner did not touch the plate, and the catcher did not tag the runner; that's why the umpire made no call. The runner should have kept this foot on the plate until there was a call made by the umpire. In the end, the umpire got this one wrong, the runner was clearly safe. That umpire was very young, looked to be about 25...really young for an MLB umpire.
First the people that think he is out! Bull crap look at it at the second angle! Yes he did miss the plate on the slide but the catcher missed him on the tag! And if you think he got him on the tag them why did he try to tag him on the second try and the runners foot was on the plate before the second tag! So yea safe!
...and I pretty huch have to repeat my question. Why is it that you have to tag someone with your glove when there are times a catcher will cover home plate, get run into by the runner, but the runner is out if the catcher holds on to the ball (without tagging him with it).
I guess this is why I'm only interested in baseball when hockey ends and before football begins.
I don't really know how to respond to this...I pretty much have to repeat myself...He went into the catchers legs but by the time he tagged him with the ball, his foot was already in...He needs to tag him to get the out, not just make contact with the person...Must tag him with the ball that is either in his glove, or his hand..thats all there is to it
Okay, you obviously do not know the rules very well...You need to tag the runner with the BALL, when the catcher is holding the ball and the runner makes contact with his foot, he still needs to tag him in order to get the out, you don't get an out by making contact with any body part when holding the ball, you need to tag him..He was safe
This here is a clear reason for replays. They may have their own problems but this would have been overturned and the rays would have had a run.
Catchers left leg blocked runners right leg from reaching home plate. Runner was aware, so the runner threw his left leg onto home plate. By that time the runners right leg MAY OR MAY NOT had already been tagged. Dirt was an obstacle.
Its tricky. Were all winners...deep inside.
His foot was on the plate before he was tagged he's safe. Also you got to be pretty stupid if you think hes out because he ran into the catcher when he had the ball. Ive played catcher since t ball and I know for a fact that is not true. You need to be tagged by the ball, not the catcher's fucking leg.
I don't know why, all I know is that that's the rule...I cant give you a reason for it, its just in the rulebook, I guess that's my answer to you...In baseball, you gata tag with the ball, whether hes covering home plate or not it means nothing if you don't tag him
You have to tag the runner with the ball? Then what about them times the catcher stands over home plate, the runner slamms into him, but the runner is out if the catcher held on to the ball?
A bit of a double standard there. I guess that's why I don't really watch baseball, it's gay.
swipe tag got his right foot you can see the glove wobble from the hit. and then he touches the base and then the catcher touches him again. good call.
The slide was completely off centered, but the swipe tag missed the runner by at least an inch. The mitt never touched him. Then the runner tagged the plate with his back foot and the actual tag was applied while the runner was safe.
He Was Safe, The Catcher Never Tagged Him Until He Had Already Touched Home Plate & The Runner Was Already Safe. Ump Was In Some High Shit Cuz He Waited For To Long To Give The Call & He Was Like Dumb Fucked He Didnt Even Know Wat To Call!!!
what the ump saw was that the catcher blocked the initial slide, but didn't see that he missed the tag. if he tagged him before he brought his other foot around to the plate, he would've been out. play & pause watch it frame by frame
He Was Safe, The Catcher Never Tagged Him Until He Had Already Touched The Runner. Ump Was In Some High Shit Cuz He Waited For To Long To Give The Call & He Was Like Dumb Fucked He Didnt Even Know Wat To Call!!!
That's a horrible call. I know he dosen't have slow motion like in the video, but that call was obvious
not true. As an umpire you pause, you read, you react. This method prevents you from making a call too soon. So if there is a dropped ball you are not calling out when the ball is on the ground.
Why would the runner have the ball? What in the world are you talking about?
Yeah, that's the only time I'm interested in baseball. I'm not being passionate about it. I'm just telling it like it is.
Thank goodness Today we have instant replay.
I agree that the ump was in a horrible position but the swipe tag missed him and then the runner touched the plate again the got tagged in the foot.
The catcher clearly missed the tag he tagged after he already touch the base. If you agree with the umpire, then you and the umpire don't know baseball.
The Rays would lose the game 2-1 in 10 innings.
it is not catching the foot we are looking at it is the swipe tag on the back heal before either foot touches the bag. the slide was off centered.
I'm not clicking back, but I will take your word for it. "Mah bad", I meant to say the catcher had the ball.
I thought you were being crazy, LOL.
Actually, the runner clearly had the ball. Replay shows it numerous time. People just try swaying with the "popular call" of him being safe.
Out
Actually, the catcher had his foot in front of the plate, and the runner hit his foot when he had there ball. Therefore, he was out.
That ump really did blow that call. The runner touched plate before the tag.
I'm making an ejections playlist
Wheres it at?
pause at 1:11....you can clearly see his foot touching the plate BEFORE he was tagged....
This isn't him out but the ump couldn't see the tag from that spot
he waited to make the call. oh no, he did his job right.
The home plate umpire was(#74 John Tumpane)
I would like to sue that ump because he was RESTING on the dish when he tagged him
Still an awful call in 2023 as it was 10 yrs ago....
The home plate umpire looks so young
the ump sucks he tagged him when he was trying to get up
Bad call he was safe!
He gets the foot on the initial swip tag. They even admit it later in this game when they look again. He was legit out.
Tag on the back of the right heel, I think. Close
He got his foot on before the tag. The catcher missed the swipe tag.
wow I'm a tigers fan, but that guy was clearly safe. bullshit call
the runner was safe. bad call.
He's a young umpire, cut him some slack.
Lol, no way is he out
John your a good man but it look like you missed one
Look safe on leg first second hand touch shines