For those of you saying that the umpire made a good call, Rauch was actually arguing about the strike zone from the last batter. The batter on first was supposed to be stuck out and the inning would've been over. That's why.
Crappy job as an umpire by Marquez. He made the right call at the plate, but he escalated the situation with Farrell. An umpire should walk away, not get in the manager's face.
According to the MLB the umps are correct on strikes and balls over 97% of the time. The league also reported that their on field calls are correct 99% of the time. I'm probably not going to get all in a wad if a few calls out of well over 100 pitches per team don't go my way with an accuracy rate like that, especially when he players play accuracy is nowhere in the neighborhood most nights.
Even if he made the right call, this ump isn't very smart for continuing to yell at Rauch while Rauch is turning into the Hulk and throwing grown men around ten feet away. Jon Rauch is probably on a short list of 7 active baseball players you don't want this pissed off at you. 6'11", 290. No, thanks.
I still like those uniforms better then the current ones. I know im in the minority. But i liked the logo and the Blue Jay blue looked really good with the black.
That's not what they were arguing though. Rauch was mad because the two pitches prior to that one were called balls even though they were right down the pipe. Rauch was telling Marquez that run is on him since his strike zone was absolutely horrific that day. There never would have been a hit resulting in Utley sliding in safely if Marquez had called at least one of the two previous pitches correctly.
Okay. I know I'm getting in this a little late. This wasn't about the play at the plate. It's about the guy scoring when they thought the inning should have been over. Rauch thought he should have got some calls on Howard (who was on first, I believe) that were borderline, didn't, run ends up scoring after Rauch thought he had got 3 outs. Hence, argument.
wikipedia says john farrell suffered a broken jaw from trying to restrain rauch... I find that hard to believe... Is that really true??? Anyone know???
Rauch could have easily laid out Alfonso Marquez. You can also tell the Toronto faithful loved how Farrell gave Marquez his money's worth when he got tossed himself. If I remember correctly, Rauch only got fined for this (due to the ejection) and I think Marquez himself got disciplined over the incident as well.
That WAS NOT why they were pissed. Before this he called a ball on a clear strike and it led to two runs. People need to watch before and afters before commenting on stuff like this. Rauch reacted stupidly and deserved ejection but thats not why he was arguing.
Yep, yet umpires have the luxury of making physical contact with players and manager, like Marquez did to Farrell. Some umps deserve it, like Vic Carapazza, CB Bucknor, Will Little, Angel Hernandez, Ron Kulpa among others.
The argument was about the previous two pitches, not about whether or not Utley was safe. The reason he argued there was because the missed calls led to a basehit and run scored.
It's quite possible that Farrell was arguing about the play at the plate, but Rauch was definitely angry about the two pitch calls prior to the hit. You would have had to seen the full at bat to get full context of why this transpired. I only came to watch the video because, Marquez made the stupidest call ever at 2B against the BJs last night in SF.
You can dislocate your jaw from yelling angrily. Happens more than you think. When you’re so heated you scream and open your mouth real wide causing it to dislocate.
The problem is MLB continues to allow Managers to get directly in the face of the Umpires whenever they disagree with calls. John Farell was at fault too since he first yelled at the Umpire.
You people are missing the point. It's not a matter of safe or out, the runner was clearly safe. The issue is the bad calls made earlier in the inning that put those runners on base. They should have been the 3rd outs earlier with the Jays coming up to bat. But instead Rauch is throwing extra pitches he shouldn't be, and having extra hits and runs scored on him by a guy that shouldn't even be up at bat. Now the Jays need to score 2 runs just to tie it instead of 2 to win.
You can see Rauch was posturing, he could have gotten to the umpire. Fortunately Rauch had the good sense not to assault the umpire, which would have ended his career.
Rauch could have easily been suspended for that, but the League only fined him. They probably fined Marquez as well after his confrontation with John Farrell.
Things I'm glad are no longer with the Jays: 1. JP Arenciba 2. John Farrell 3. AAAA OFs like Corey Patterson 4. Those sliding pits--in 2016, we finally have a dirt infield. 5. Those terrible jerseys and logo--good thing they went back to a modification of the original Blue Jays logo in 2012.
He's lucky he's had enough talent to save his job--Farrell is a horrible coach, and is lucky to have Betts/Bogaerts/Bradley and a surprise season from Ortiz to offset his stupid strategies..
We don't have him and we are top of the AL East.. Meanwhile Farrell's Red Sox are hovering around 3rd and the Orioles are free falling.. I think we're ok
Note to all officials do not piss off men that should be playing offensive line somewhere!!!! Cuz if Rauch had done something really bad...it wouldn't be good for that umpire
Well yeah did you see rauch's behavior to the ump before getting thrown out? Pointing his glove at him violently like that and obviously said some nasty shit? Umpires do not tolerate that, I'm a umpire myself and in that is in-tolerable especially in MLB
Actually, Rauch was arguing a past call, how about you learn the context. Did you see Marquez bump the manager and unprofessional yell at Farrell? Yet he got mad for Rauch barely making contact?
I disagree with you.. A player says something to an ump he gets tossed.. An ump says something to a player nothing happens.. Umpires should not be able to yell back..
I think what is tough for players, coaches and fans is that frequently on tag plays and we see it here...the throw beat the runner so, in their minds they see the runner being tag...but, in your mind is not where baseball games are decided. It was a close play. The throw beat the runner. But, the runner beat the tag. He was safe.
He was mad because that play shouldnt have even been able to happen. Rauch struck out the previous batter two times over but they got the walk because of the worst ump calls ive ever seen
For those of you saying that the umpire made a good call, Rauch was actually arguing about the strike zone from the last batter. The batter on first was supposed to be stuck out and the inning would've been over. That's why.
Rauch is just too big and strong for anyone to try and pull him back lol
If only Randy Johnson was still playing
Ah, that makes a lot more sense. I thought Rauch was arguing about the call at the plate. Thanks for clearing that up.
Rauch was mad at the call for the previous batter, who should have been struck out, but he got on base after two strikes called balls
I didn't know Rauch was that tall. He's one big ass dude. I wouldn't mess with him haha
1:07 The catcher had to put the mask back on, it was getting intense 😂
hahahha
Hahahaha!!!!
They weren't angry about the call at the plate. They were angry at the two previous calls that were clearly strikes.
I nearly laughed when Rauch nearly threw his own manager to the ground
1:38 This looks like a silly baseball videogame scene.
Man if I acted like that in public I'd be locked up for life
The runner was safe!
The was the call, idiot
He would have been out
Yeah, apparently it was beef about the strikezone too. Umpire kind of was unprofessional when arguing with John Farrell, he even bumped John.
You need to see an optometrist
Farrell dislocated his shoulder during this when Jon Rauch, tallest player in MLB history tried to pull away from him to get to the umpire.
Imagine trying to hold back a giant
Farrell Broke His Jaw Trying To Restrain Rauch
This argument wasn't about the call at home. It was about the two pitches previous that were strikes but called balls.
lol
safer than a girl in a gay bar
Lol
Lol
He was mad about the last 2 pitches not the play
😂😂
lmaoo
He was mainly heated because the umpire didn't call an obvious strike 3 which led to the runs
He was mad about the strike zone
Goddammit do you people listen?? It was about another call earlier on in the inning!!
Yes, because they can change it. (not)
IknowNothingAboutHockey you can't argue previous pitches. Actually you can't argue any pitch.
@Blue Skeptic Ok, but did you see Marquez bump the manager and unprofessional yell at Farrell? Yet he got mad for Rauch barely making contact?
@@TheSjuris True, but did you see Marquez bump the manager and unprofessional yell at Farrell? Yet he got mad for Rauch barely making contact?
Goddamnit! You people aren’t always listening!! It was about another call earlier on in the inning!!
All of this wasn't about the safe call at the plate the pitcher thought the umpire was missing pitches
you know when an umpire is wrong when he gets in someones face like that
In MLB, managers are allowed to get in the face of the umpires during an argument.
@@Flames237 They're not allowed to bump into umpires though, because then they are suspended. Yet this umpire BUMPED into Farrell.
Marquez did a no no when he engaged Farrell in that argument after he threw him out.
rauch was upset about some earlier calls on balls and strikes. not about the call at home
nothing like taking the family out to the ball game for a little fun, eh
It was a. Close play but he was safe
@Nathan Cano The throw was there but not the actual tag.
They weren't raging until he threw Rauch out. Rauch was arguing it, but got tossed quick, and for what he felt was nothing. Then it escaluated.
Crappy job as an umpire by Marquez. He made the right call at the plate, but he escalated the situation with Farrell. An umpire should walk away, not get in the manager's face.
According to the MLB the umps are correct on strikes and balls over 97% of the time. The league also reported that their on field calls are correct 99% of the time. I'm probably not going to get all in a wad if a few calls out of well over 100 pitches per team don't go my way with an accuracy rate like that, especially when he players play accuracy is nowhere in the neighborhood most nights.
Harold L. Tubman agreed but they argue because those one or two calls that don’t go their way can make or break their career/money.
It's dropped over the years, umpires are on the way out.
I've seen this a bunch of times before and just now realized how big a guy he actually is.
Even if he made the right call, this ump isn't very smart for continuing to yell at Rauch while Rauch is turning into the Hulk and throwing grown men around ten feet away. Jon Rauch is probably on a short list of 7 active baseball players you don't want this pissed off at you. 6'11", 290. No, thanks.
The home plate umpire at the Rogers Centre in Toronto, Ontario, Canada was the first Mexican umpire (#72/Alfonso Marquez)
Jon Rauch's temper got the better of him there
To catcher J.P. Arencibia, you did a good job of diving back toward home plate after the throw from Corey Patterson.
Not a smart move by Jon Rauch
I still like those uniforms better then the current ones. I know im in the minority. But i liked the logo and the Blue Jay blue looked really good with the black.
Not trying to be biased but Utley just beat the tag. Not by much, but enough. Good call.
He did
That's not what they were arguing though. Rauch was mad because the two pitches prior to that one were called balls even though they were right down the pipe. Rauch was telling Marquez that run is on him since his strike zone was absolutely horrific that day. There never would have been a hit resulting in Utley sliding in safely if Marquez had called at least one of the two previous pitches correctly.
Al it was about the strike zone.
Okay. I know I'm getting in this a little late. This wasn't about the play at the plate. It's about the guy scoring when they thought the inning should have been over. Rauch thought he should have got some calls on Howard (who was on first, I believe) that were borderline, didn't, run ends up scoring after Rauch thought he had got 3 outs. Hence, argument.
well description says "tossed over play at plate" so i'm assuming that's what they are arguing about
rauch is one big fella. pretty amazing how hard it was to restrain him!
He’s 6’11 290lbs
Biggest player in MLB history, almost 7 feet!
wikipedia says john farrell suffered a broken jaw from trying to restrain rauch... I find that hard to believe... Is that really true??? Anyone know???
Rauch could have easily laid out Alfonso Marquez. You can also tell the Toronto faithful loved how Farrell gave Marquez his money's worth when he got tossed himself. If I remember correctly, Rauch only got fined for this (due to the ejection) and I think Marquez himself got disciplined over the incident as well.
Farrell dislocated his jaw trying to restrain Rauch.
That WAS NOT why they were pissed. Before this he called a ball on a clear strike and it led to two runs.
People need to watch before and afters before commenting on stuff like this.
Rauch reacted stupidly and deserved ejection but thats not why he was arguing.
Umpire got the call right.
Something like this just happened tonight at the Yankees/Red Sox game with David Ortiz and John Farrell..
Let's get it started:
Jon Rauch, Kevin Gregg, Carlos Quentin, Yadier Molina, David Ortiz, A.J. Pierzynski, Nyjer Morgan.
Wouldn’t it be great if there were no repercussions for punching an umpire? Or just a minimal fine. The game would be so much better.
Yep, yet umpires have the luxury of making physical contact with players and manager, like Marquez did to Farrell. Some umps deserve it, like Vic Carapazza, CB Bucknor, Will Little, Angel Hernandez, Ron Kulpa among others.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THAT WAS SAFE:):):):):):)
The argument was about the previous two pitches, not about whether or not Utley was safe. The reason he argued there was because the missed calls led to a basehit and run scored.
The count was 0-0 when he got the hit...are you talking about the batter before this one?
The tag was never applied and the announcers even said that. Watch it again on a higher definition screen. It was close in proximity but no cigar.
John Rauch and Frank Francisco were terrible relievers the Jays had back then in '11 season
In his career, he wasn't that bad though. Biggest player in MLB history.
that made this whole thing make much more sense
Whats going up here?
They hated on that umpire for no reason...He got the call right and they are acting like they KNOW he got the call wrong....
I was just pointing out that he was heated over being tossed, not about it being over the plate or not. Fuel to the fire, so to speak.
Don't do something to warrant being tossed in the first place.
That umpire got balls. If Rauch wanted to get to him he would have.
How can he eject Farrell?? He just saved his life...
And proceed to make physical contact and get in an altercation with him.
@@thecaynuck4694 That's better than being killed so that's irrelevant.
Man Marquez just looked Farrell right in the eye and started beaking it with him. lol
Full on bumped him too, yet it's illegal to bump umpires, but apparently umpires can bump whoever the hell they want.
This is so hilarious 🤣
I am Canadian !!! lol He was clearly safe !
It's quite possible that Farrell was arguing about the play at the plate, but Rauch was definitely angry about the two pitch calls prior to the hit. You would have had to seen the full at bat to get full context of why this transpired. I only came to watch the video because, Marquez made the stupidest call ever at 2B against the BJs last night in SF.
Still don’t understand how John dislocated his jaw here
You can dislocate your jaw from yelling angrily. Happens more than you think. When you’re so heated you scream and open your mouth real wide causing it to dislocate.
Man that umpire got a little too heated with Ferrell, very unproffesional. Umpires should always been calm, no matter what.
The problem is MLB continues to allow Managers to get directly in the face of the Umpires whenever they disagree with calls. John Farell was at fault too since he first yelled at the Umpire.
@@Flames237 Farrell restrained Rauch, saving Marquez's ass. Farrell never bumped Marquez, yet the ump made physical contact.
Damn stealcock atleast zip your jacket up so they can’t tell you’re not wearing your jersey
You people are missing the point. It's not a matter of safe or out, the runner was clearly safe. The issue is the bad calls made earlier in the inning that put those runners on base. They should have been the 3rd outs earlier with the Jays coming up to bat. But instead Rauch is throwing extra pitches he shouldn't be, and having extra hits and runs scored on him by a guy that shouldn't even be up at bat. Now the Jays need to score 2 runs just to tie it instead of 2 to win.
Not in that order and you left out a few key points.
heck of a play by the umpires to bring the big guy to the dugout.
NFL Officials love their job
MLB Officials like but dont love their job
You see it so often and can feel it
What if the team had not held Rauch back and had let him do as he wanted there? Would he have gone to jail?
You can see Rauch was posturing, he could have gotten to the umpire. Fortunately Rauch had the good sense not to assault the umpire, which would have ended his career.
that is one big human being
Utley was definitely safe by quite a bit too.
Rauch could have easily been suspended for that, but the League only fined him. They probably fined Marquez as well after his confrontation with John Farrell.
We had great fun before replay!
Yeah. That’s an art form that’s kind of been loss with instant replay.
never knew how big Rauch was until this video
At 6 feet 11 inches (2.11 m), he was (and still is) the tallest player in Major League Baseball history.
Ump was right here. Safe at the plate.
Rauch got hosed so badly by umps that year, his numbers should have been better then they were
When I saw the name Farrell get tossed, I thought someone actually threw him in a fight..
sbertol84 arguing balls and strikes??? Automatic gone but what can he see from 1st base?
dont make rauch mad guys a beast
The "ref?"
That was 100% umpire the second ejection
Things I'm glad are no longer with the Jays:
1. JP Arenciba
2. John Farrell
3. AAAA OFs like Corey Patterson
4. Those sliding pits--in 2016, we finally have a dirt infield.
5. Those terrible jerseys and logo--good thing they went back to a modification of the original Blue Jays logo in 2012.
How about Rauch, Lovullo, Snider, Wells, and Overbay?
Oh and Ricky Romero.
john farrell is a great coach, if we had him now we'd be top al east for sure
He's lucky he's had enough talent to save his job--Farrell is a horrible coach, and is lucky to have Betts/Bogaerts/Bradley and a surprise season from Ortiz to offset his stupid strategies..
I guess Jays fans can't even remember those buffoons.Too long ago for you?
We don't have him and we are top of the AL East.. Meanwhile Farrell's Red Sox are hovering around 3rd and the Orioles are free falling.. I think we're ok
Note to all officials do not piss off men that should be playing offensive line somewhere!!!! Cuz if Rauch had done something really bad...it wouldn't be good for that umpire
It wouldn't be good for Rauch either.
Well yeah did you see rauch's behavior to the ump before getting thrown out? Pointing his glove at him violently like that and obviously said some nasty shit? Umpires do not tolerate that, I'm a umpire myself and in that is in-tolerable especially in MLB
You know what umps shouldn't do? Bump into managers like Marquez did to Farrell. If players/managers can't do it, neither should umpires.
Good call! I would have thrown their asses out too!
Actually, Rauch was arguing a past call, how about you learn the context. Did you see Marquez bump the manager and unprofessional yell at Farrell? Yet he got mad for Rauch barely making contact?
The Caynuck nonsense, many of these baseball players are way too sensitive and they get their panties on a bunch too easily.
I disagree with you.. A player says something to an ump he gets tossed.. An ump says something to a player nothing happens.. Umpires should not be able to yell back..
No wonder Farrell left for Boston. Having to restrain a 6'11" Rauch and "Always Angry" Lawrie all the time? No thanks.
Well he had to deal with people like Ortiz and Brock Holt in Boston...
and ortiz.... after seeing the game the other night holy shit!
Agree and goood umpiring too.
Those hits hurt
The guy was safe. Not that close.
I remember that, it should've been called.
Safe, correct call
Yeah, apparently it was beef about the strikezone too. Umpire kind of was unprofessional when arguing with John Farrell, he even bumped John.
Would a player go to jail for head-butting an umpire?
Probably wouldn't go to jail but there would be severe sanctions from MLB, including fines and suspensions.
Ya I looked at it close.
His glove landed in the right position it should be
how old are u little kid
UTLEY IS THE MAN
Rauch get himself ejected
Safe by a major league Mile, foot crossed the plate first.....
stop the video at 0:08 he was safe
It wasn't about the safe call it was about balls and strikes earlier
I think what is tough for players, coaches and fans is that frequently on tag plays and we see it here...the throw beat the runner so, in their minds they see the runner being tag...but, in your mind is not where baseball games are decided.
It was a close play. The throw beat the runner. But, the runner beat the tag. He was safe.
He was mad because that play shouldnt have even been able to happen. Rauch struck out the previous batter two times over but they got the walk because of the worst ump calls ive ever seen
@@logandodge7221 Pitch 5 was clearly a ball, but pitch 6 was absolutely a strike. Definitely a strike-out on the last pitch.
Lol, Rauche. Dope.