Marvel's Spider-Man PC - Multi-GPU Nvidia vs AMD Face-Off - PS5/PS4 Pro vs GeForce + Much More!
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- We're a couple of patches into Marvel's Spider-Man PC now - as good a chance as any to take Alex's optimised settings and prove them out across four classes of GPU hardware: relatively ancient legacy cards with PS4-ballpark performance, as well as the more modern GTX 1060 vs RX 580 face-off. Then it's onto the battle of the mainstream as RTX 3060 takes on RX 6600 in the 1440p ray tracing arena, before the RTX 3080 and RX 6800 XT compete at the 4K high-end. Console comparisons? We've got that too with 3060 vs PS5 and... GTX 1060 vs PS4 Pro?!
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00:00 Introduction
03:28 RT is super-heavy on CPU
05:48 Optimised Settings
06:18 Hair quality settings
07:08 GTX 1060 vs RX 580
09:57 GTX 1060 'Dynamic 4K' vs PS4 Pro
11:58 RTX 3060 vs RX 6600
14:14 RTX 3060 1440p RT vs GTX 1060/RX 580
15:35 RTX 3060 DRS DLSS vs PS5 Performance RT
16:52 RTX 3080 10GB vs RX 6800 XT
19:31 Legacy GPU Face-Off - R9 270X vs GTX 750 Ti
20:47 And now, the conclusion - เกม
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The fact that the 750Ti holds 30fps and looks reasonably good is pretty impressive.
PS4 is doing the same 2013 hardware
8 year old gpu that runs modern titles at 30fps, now that's value
I mean, I guess? The game already runs 30fps on ps4 so a graphics card from that era along with a better processor and ram should be able to run it better than a ps4.
@@subjectivereviews Actually better, PS4 plays it at fixed 1080p and a stable 30 fps from the start to the end (with a jet engine sound). But 750ti 4gb model runs the game at dynamic 900p meaning it goes even lower than that. And can't provide a fixed frame time either from the start to the end
@@finaldivine8235 nah stop shilling there's no big deal here. PC users shill a lot. PS4 is near 10 year old hardware and still to run Gow Ragnarok. Bet some PC cards of the time wld cough at Ragnarok or shld I say system minimum requirements not met.
The title almost made me think that DF was talking about SLI/Crossfire, then I realized that both techs are obsolete.
wait what, i just realized that wasn't what they were talking about XD
Which is a shame, I had a dual Gpu gtx 295 and later crossfired some amd cards, dabbled in tri-sli for a while.
Back in the day you actually got some decent utilisation on both cards.
Then it all died.
so basically, a $200 gpu is faster than weakstation 5
@@saputrasaputra3347 nope try $1000+ would be needed to compete with the godstation
Exactly what I thought
Loved seeing the 270X and 750ti make an appearance.
Yeah, I've owned both the 750ti and the RX580. I'm always curious to know how they perform nowadays.
so basically, a $200 gpu is faster than weakstation 5
@@saputrasaputra3347 does it get tiring to be such an avid hater? i could name better things to do than to be a keyboard warrior
Fun fact my friend still rocked a 750 ti before getting a new rig with a 3050 .
But It s all a matter of point of view.
I have a 1050 ti so a 3050 is a monster.
Although the 3050 is relatively" weak"
@@luizarthurbrito the amd 580 = 2 x 270x
Love the PS4 vs PC comparison. These analysis are a godsend
I don't know why but hearing Rich say "this is more for the luls" just made my day.
A welcome surprise :-)
@@micb3rd A surprise to be sure
Richard, really glad to see you covering this one!
You should have compared the 3060 against the 6600 XT.
Yep
Hoping for more videos like this , good job Digital Foundry!
This feels like a classic DF video ❤️ love it
I love ports that have so much scalability. you could probably run this game on almost any mid range pc from the last 10 years
Id like to see more CPU comparisons.. Seems some CPUs perform better with hyperthreading disabled and id like to see more ddr4 VS ddr5 comparisons.
Great video and was pleasantly surprised it was Richard. Only issue is mistakenly thought this meant multi GPU as in CF/SLI
Game has a problem with Hyperthreading/SMT. Turning it off sees massive framerate improvement and much higher GPU utilization. It's possible that the i5 chips could actually see 60 FPS raytracing if you went into the bios and turned off hyperthreading.
DF does not seem to care about this problem, they are only here to say that it is a good port
It's funny that most everyone knows that. And yet DF or HU never mention it. Someone payed them or what lol
@@UltimateLF I don't think it's anything like that. I don't think it's common knowledge at this point. Hopefully Nixxes can just fix the issue in a patch and basically give everyone a free performance boost.
@@Twelvestar According to Nixxes in the last patch they indicated that they have not been able to reproduce the performance problem, so for them such a problem does not exist.
@@metroplex29 They were not talking about SMT there but about performance degradation over time, which is something entirely different.
However they didn't acknowledge it either while it definitely is a fact that turning off SMT improves fps massively.
I think the graphs are a touch too low in the RTX3060ti vs RX 6600 chapter. In full screen they overlap perfectly with the scrubber bar and it makes it hard to see the chapter positions ahead of where you currently are.
The 6600 vs 3060 comparison is understandable because of the msrp, but these days the 6600 is like $100 cheaper, so yeah...
I was curious on this too and just checked Newegg. 3060 is 379$ . 6600 is 249$ after rebate . So yeah
It should be 6650xt vs 3060 with the current pricing
6600 is a 3050 competiter at this point
in my country they're about the same
In terms of pricing Its the 6700 (non XT) the one that should be compared against the 3060. even the 6600 XT is about 60 bucks cheaper than 3060
6600 never competed against the 3060 this generation going by pricing:
3050 vs 6600
3060 vs 6600xt
3060ti vs 6700xt
At the end of the day you should compare the products with the same prices, not the same numbers in their names
Gotta appreciate how much time and thorough tests they have went through to make these comparisons! Well informative!
Marvel's Spider-Man sure made an interesting case and insight to see how a video game works, performs and scales across different hardware, from consoles to high-end PCs, from base PS4 to PS5, and from GTX 750Ti to RTX 3000 cards!
I'm not exactly the biggest fan of the Spider-Man universe and lore, but the Digital Foundry videos about the game since 2018 sure helped me understand a lot better some of the technicalities involved.
I still remember their video explaining cube map reflections right around puddle-gate.
Thanks for another brilliant video.
The 3060-6600 comparison its kind of absurd considering that the AMD card is like 100 bucks cheaper.
Yep. DF as objective as usual
I mean, a 2060 would also beat the 6600 at RT, and it's cheaper. The 3050 on the other hand would be a good comparison for the current line-up of GPUs.
so basically, a $200 gpu is faster than weakstation 5
Yep, I don't think it's a good idea to have the same class of gpu's from different companies battling it out with each other unless the price is about the same, the comparisons should always be done on the price of the gpu's and not on the class of gpu's.
In this case, that AMD gpu would actually be compared to a tier down Nvidia gpu.
If a product is superior ,naturally the market prices it higher, that doesn't make it a tier above. That's like saying it's only fair for the #1 fighter in a weight division to fight above his weight class.
Love seeing Rich at the helm, sick video!
ummm..why on earth would you compare a 6600 vs a 3060 based on MSRP? Nvidia does not honor that for 99% of the population. I do a quick online USA price check. 6600 sells for about 270-300 and the 3060 is around $420-480 on average. Totally different price ranges. You should have been using the 6700 XT version to match comparable pricing. Boggles the mind using BS MSRP. LOL
Haven't these people been caught being dishonest in the past? Or am I mistaken?
Not our fault it’s sold out in your area I can have a 3060 for the starting price easily
I missed these kinds of videos. Also Alex did a fantastic interview with Nixxes on eurogamer.
I have no such performance issues at all in Spider-man with the 6600.
It's really weird at the very least.
Man, you had me thinking this game supported multi GPU set ups like SLI with that title!
Nice comparing 👍👍
"Gap is gigantic" LoL just like price between rx6600 and rtx 3060. Same for Rx 6800xt , price is not the same .
Yep the 6800XT can be bought as low as 570$ while the cheapest 3080 10gb is 700$
Basicly meaning you can get a B550 tomahawk + 6800xt for the price of 3080
I have no such performance issues at all in Spider-man with the 6600.
Is there ever actually a link "below" when mentioned in the video lol? I feel like I never see the links for settings etc they mention directly.
Thanks for the vid! My RTX 3050 8GB does especially well in this game with RTX on (Alex's optimized settings), 1080p with DLSS Quality. It looks great too! My 9 year old loves the ray tracing in this game. Getting him into graphics tech early. 🙂
With a 3060ti and i9 10850k, I just could not get something as smooth and good looking as the PS5 versions (with raytracing). Even at the lowest RT and crowd settings, the framerate was wildly inconsistent while swinging.
If you’re using a wireless controller try using a wired one. Somehow runs a ton better (see Reddit)
@@Keivz Think he was talking about framerate, not controller
try disabling hyperthreading in bios, helps a ton. Also try using fps cap
Wierd the 3060ti should have better RT performance than a PS5
@@kylelochner5686 Some games do have weird performance problems with Bluetooth, but I am using a wired controller and tried disabling hyperthreading
For my laptop with AMD Ryzen 4800HS, 16GB of RAM, and a GTX 1650ti (4gb) runs at 1080p 30fps locked, and looks and plays awesome, with a mix of low/medium settings and DRS. Very good port indeed
No idea why we are comparing 6600 vs 3060. At my place prices indicate we shoud compare 6650XT or 6700 vs 3060.
3060 12GB vs a RX 6600 8GB is not a fair comparison. a 3050 8gb vs a 6600 8gb is . Your going off NVidia mythical MSRP.0
Same with 6800xt vs 3080 as well,
Cheapest 6800xt is 570$ while cheapest 3080 10gb is 700$
6800xt is the same price as a 3070ti on the market currently
It's a fair comparison instead.
At 1080p I have no such performance issues in Spider-man with the 6600.
Thanks for the video, gents. I've been waiting for this one!
Personally, I have completed about 87% of the base game and it has gotten better after the past couple patches... but yeah, it's still pretty CPU heavy.
I'm running an RTX 3080 ti with an i9-9900k CPU (with all cores at 4.7 Ghz), 64 gigs of DDR4 Ram @ 3600 Mhz, and a NVME M2 SSD (EVO 970 Plus) to store the game on. 4K with DLSS-Balanced enabled, textures at very high, 8x anisotropic, and everything else on high except traffic density, crowd density, and hair quality (all three are on medium instead). I also have ray-tracing enabled at high settings with object range of 7.
After the past two patches, it runs at 60 fps most of the time. I do get regular dips to 59 fps when I swing too close to the street, and those can get worse depending on time of day and how long I play. Regarding the former, it can be very interesting when the time of day is set to night, the weather is set to rain, and there's fog. My CPU does NOT like that very much and performance will start dropping to the low 50s at intervals near busy streets. Regarding the latter, there's some kind of memory leak at play. After an hour of wandering the open world, doing random side missions, and solving crimes... a gradual performance degradation sets in. Drops to 59 become 57, then 53, and then low 40s. Restarting the game gets you back on track, for another hour.
It's happening a lot less now, but I've done all the side-quests that change the time of day / weather and I'm pretty much just wrapping up 80 random crimes that have unlocked before completing the story (60 down, 20 more to go).
It's a shame PC Direct Storage isn't a thing yet, because I think that could have really helped this game. The CPU is just having to do way too much here (crowds, traffic, shadow compiling, assisting with ray-tracing, etc.). I hope they find a way in the next couple patches to optimize CPU usage a bit more, but we'll see.
Thanks for your thorough analysis!
Edit addition: also, thanks to Nixxes for the continued support and burning that midnight oil. As of the time of this post, the PC port has been out for 18 days and has already received two patches. They're clearly trucking along and I wish them the very best. They seem dedicated to milking more performance out of this port and I'm sure it'll pay dividends for the Spider-Man: Miles Morales PC edition.
Just so you know, you can probably fix those dips you're getting by disabling Hyperthreading in your bios. There's a known issue with this game where having more than 6 physical cores and having hyperthreading enabled causes CPU utilisation problems. Disable it and everything smoothes out. You can check the Discussion pages on Steam to verify this.
@@SolarMechanic You make a great suggestion, Mike, and Steam discussions do indeed back it up.
Truthfully, I haven't done that because I think everything else on my computer does benefit from hyperthreading. I'd rather not turn it off just for a single game. I guess I could turn it off before I play the game and turn it back on after I'm done playing... but I'd rather not touch it and hope that Nixxes improves support for more than 6 cores instead.
@@Ingel_Riday6690 Fair enough. It souns like you've got performance enough to make up for it so it's not something you need to worry about. It's just such an odd problem which I'm surprised DF didn't pick up on.
@@Ingel_Riday6690 you can actually disable hyperthreading specifically for this game if you download process lasso
@@Crimsongz Afaik Ryzen Master can do the same thing
I hope more games have the option to use dynamic resolution, but then upscale it to native, when it's in affect. That just makes sense.
I prefer this method over reconstruction
Awesome video ! Would love to see a PS4 vs PC graphics breakdown :)
They won’t compare last gen them days are gone
PS4. Trash.
This had pretty much that?
20:44 I didn't realize the british pronunciation of kudos is basically QDOS 😂
Just got this game today. Runs like butter 1440p maxed settings dlss quality with ray tracing off with a ryzen 5600 and rtx 3070.
If your on a vrr display you can put ps5 in it's fidelity mode where it runs at a much higher rez and better RT still at 50-60 fps... should of put that up when comparing it to the 3060
Great video
Isn't it a bit weird to compare the 3060 to the 6600 when the 6600 is more comparable to a 3050 in pricing? The comparison was still great, but I'm trying to understand why you paired those 2 together.
6600xt would be a better comparison to 3060.
I was hoping to see ITG vs DLSS vs FSR, maybe in the next video?
Just how are you guys hitting 60+ fps with raytracing and optimized settings with the 3080? I'm around 40 fps. I can only hit a steady 60fps with dlss ultra peformance.
1800p, high settings, high rt for just over 60fps with FSR 2 quality on a 6700xt
Apparently I was so quick to the video the notification wouldn’t load it and the video didn’t show on the channel page. I had to go through the website lol
I have been UNABLE to get a consistent 60fps without drops on this game, rt off, with an i5 10400f. During swinging, no matter what I tried, I could not avoid drops while swinging. Tested with 3060 and 3070ti.
Nvidia has known overhead driver issues.
And the i5-10400, 11400 and the R5 3600 have more or less 5% performance difference from each other
is this been tested on the 1.824.1.0 patch? coz, on my end, it improve the performnace quite a bit (high end nVidia/Ryzen pc)
With the latest Spider-man patch, I have no performance issues at all with the 6600.
Looking close to great on RX 580 and GTX 1060, just need to fix that weird GPU Utilisation and stutter issue.
Steam's hardware survey is always a stark reminder of how working class people play games. Tech youtubers live often in the dream world of having 300 usd spare every 18 months. Money goes to gaming dead last in most people's budgets.
My car needed new tires. There goes my new GPU again. There's always something.
Game runs great on my almost three year old gtx 1050 *laptop.* I'm glad the devs listened to the surveys and really optimized this to run on lower specs.
A very important issue has not been raised here. Well, the game does not allocate a maximum of 10 GB in 4K, but oddly enough, the RTX 3080 10 GB starts to clog up after turning on the RT. This is clearly seen when the spiderman is close to city streets or when it lands on the sidewalk, then performance drops dramatically. Changing textures to high eliminates the problem. However, at very high RT settings, this trick doesn't work anymore. Enabling DLSS or dynamic resolution has no effect either. It seems that the developers focused on optimization and the assumption that the gameplay is about jumping from one building to another. I recommend checking it, because then it may turn out that the RX6800XT is much faster in such places
Runs fine on my RTX3080 10GB, sounds like a driver version issue.
Would have been nice to test some Ryzen cpus too
It'd be nice if after a certain time DF would upload the content that they have behind a pay wall. Which wasn't always the case.
I heard that you need to disable hyperthreading for better performance if you have 6/12 c/t or 8/12 c/t cpus
Yes, that has been the only fix that at the moment makes the game run as it should if it were well optimized, a pity that DF is so lazy lately to investigate a little more.
@@metroplex29 crazy that some amateurish website with an handful of gpu's and one system found out about this and not DF
i seem to be having terrible frame times with the game, any idea on how to fix it? thank you in advance!
This RT's heavy CPU hit is similar to the UNREAL ENGINE 5 global illumination. What about with that? Can they make this be made by the GPU on the next generation? AVX-512 helps?
I was very excited to see the GTX 750 Ti again in the Digital Foundry videos. It's a card that I still use and whenever I download a new game, I search here on the channel to see if there are any recommendations in terms of graphics and framerate.
4:43 RT reflections look more unstable/ broken near the spiderman for some reason.
How about a video on laptop integrated GPUs from Intel and AMD from the last few years? Curious how playable it would be. 🙂🙂
On my Ryzen 5800HS+RTX 3060 laptop RTX is a no go because it introduces stuttering, and I haven't been able to reached locked 60fps. Also dynamic resolution seems to do nothing, it just maximizes my GPU usage without giving any benefit on FPS.
@@JDelwynn my rtx3070 and 5800h unable to get consistent 45fps with ray tracing 😂
What's really annoying I've found is the way framerates slow to a crawl after changing certain GFX options when in game, and don't recover until booting back to the menu and reloading. (running a RTX 3080)
Does slow down keep coming back after booting back?
That happens in almost every game man. It is always adviced to restart your game after you're done experementing for best quality/performance ratio, the real annoyance is when you have to restart the gane just to see the graphical differences, thankfully it doesn't happen in Spiderman, it's just the FPS that takes a hit which needs a restart to get rid of.
Which gfx setting? I don’t have this issue (3080 ti)
runs fine on my legion 5 on very high. some slowdown sometimes but its perfect
So for dynamic resolution I should put the limit under 60 if I want 60?
Brilliant analysis from Rich as usal.
*Usual
it might just be me, but both drs and dlss, both on at then same time, or each on at a time, looks pretty rough while playing at any resolution on a rtx 3070.
GPU accelerated direct storage can't come soon enough
I honestly didn't think this would be my sort of game, but it's fricking brilliant.
it's a well crafted game, one downside although , the NPC in the streets of New York are worthless and repetitive as hell , the interactivity with them is boring and the copy/past of their outfits/models/voices and dialogues are too damn visible it made the open world experience feeling too FAKE , just stick with the main story and the side quests and avoid the open world , it's a gimmick in this game !
@@offlinegamer6756 a lot of side quests involve NPC's though
This port runs amazingly well on my 5950x and 6700 XT. I just played through the game & DLC at 4k with Everything maxed out @4k with FSR 2.0 Quality and WoW!!!
Playing this with a pair of nice headphones and an OLED TV with VRR was-is an absolute delight 😊
The other upscalling option (IGTI) is better than FSR in motion
My laptop with a GTX 1650 GDDR6 runs this game at high settings, 1080p 40-50 fps. Great optimization.
why cant u just show percent and the fps at the same time, what is the problem?
John and Alex has the mighty rtx3090, what about making some review/test with a rtx3090SLI combo to push the PC limits? cyberpunk, elden ring, etc.
beacause SLI died about 10 years ago??? Don't think NV even makes profiles anymore.
Officially SLI driver profiles support ended January 1 2021 so not that long ago. I don’t think Cyberpunk supports SLI.
In my case with an rx 580 and a r5 5600x some shadows dissapear when i step in them and its a huge turn off in daytime, also some buildings act like non existant and dont cast shadows
Yup, as expected from a Sony port, it doesn't run well on AMD, either in terms of visuals or performance. The same thing happened with Gow, hopefully nixxes will fix it with patches.
Yes me too.. please how to fix it, its very annoying 😭
Some weird takes in this video.
270X is not really an equivalent for the PS4 GPU for a variety of reasons, besides cores and ROPs. It's a GCN2 variant of 7870 in number of cores yes, with twice the ROPs, yes, while underclocked to beneath actual HD 7850 performance levels.
If anything, the 750 Ti 4 GB should've been compared to R7 260X 4 GB. (an actual GCN2 GPU)
"11400F is significantly faster than R5 3600". It's really not though.
It is in multithreaded games due to the 6 cores being monolithic rather than a 3+3 cluster. The 5600 doesn't have this issue as zen3 used 8 core chiplets. If the cores don't need to communicate the 3+3 config isn't an issue, but in games the render threads need to synchronize.
Wonder why they didn't implement CUDA (GPU accelerated) BVH building. It would help relieve the bottleneck for those with weaker CPUs.
Probably too much work for the deadline and budget.
Ray tracing is honestly more punishing for the CPU. I've tried to tweak a bunch of settings but the game still drops down to around 50fps. What exactly is going on behind the scenes that hammers the CPU so hard with ray tracing?
My understanding is the CPU has to calculate parts of the BVH structure/layout and update that as objects load in and out of the scene.
@@alfheim7579 and combine that with a compression algorithm that doesn't play well with x86 you get higher CPU load. Due to every in reflection object also hast to get streamed into GPU you also get 10x the PCIe usage at times.
im currently playing this game now in my 3070 at 1440P very high settings and my experience is super satisfying. i tried to play "high settings with ray--tracing on" but im encountering low fps up 30 and causing stuttering that is why i return to "very high settings with ray tracing off"... im really enjoying crisp and smooth graphics and gameplay... thank you Sony. Hope you release also to PC the Uncharted Series and The Last of Us.. Lol
11:22 notice the water droplets on the screen
I've had this issue on amd rx 6700m where shadows disappear in certain spots and the sun's shines through buildings sometimes. I've heard online that this issue happens to other amd users as well. Surprised this didn't come up in this video. Seems like a driver issue possibly.
Probably will be I don't think AMD have released an WHQL driver yet for this game just rushed out a optional driver
Me too, im using rx 580.. i hope it will be fix or i will no use Amd anymore
@@AlvianMardhiSetya yeah this is my first amd card so I hope it's fixed
I've read from people who have a 6800xt with the same issue so it doesn't seem to matter how powerful the particular amd card is.
@@mrfilcritic I have played the game on my 6800xt pc and can't say I've experienced anything like this.
A link to a video of the issue
They should review DriveClub even if it's dead and released in 2014 it still has the best graphics I've ever seen in a racing game
its not really that good looking game anymore forexample forza horizon 5 looks way better
@@anonymous16472 no it does not.
Reading title.. Watching video... Where are the SLI/Crossfire benchmarks? ;)
I think the RX580 does so well because if anything the PS4/Pro is probably closest to it when it comes to GPU capabilities.
But the RX580 had horrible frametimes.
This game looks great on my rather modest laptop. It has an 8th gen core i5 processor, a GTX 1050 and 8gb of ram. I'm playing with everything on lowest, except for textures, which are at medium, and other not so demanding options, like 5x motion blur, bloom, depth of field and chromatic aberration. IGTI really does wonders. It certainly can choke a little here and there, but the dynamic scaling helps a ton, and it really looks incredible. I really appreciate the lengths they must have gone to optimizing and offering those really low settings, which frankly, do not look bad at all when using their dynamic scaling.
I am amazed how good my RTX 2070 Super does with this game although I do have an i9 11900K with 32GB DDR4. I used to have the i7 10700 and performance in games got a massive boost when I upgraded the CPU to the i9.
Performance got a massive boost? Do you mean that you run at low resolutions, and always run the highest framerates you can get, without VSync?
@@bricaaron3978 No I mean at 4K
@@HomelessTechnology I assume the 11900K is at a much higher clock speed than the 10700?
RX580 AND 1060 Performace akin to my RTX3050 35w Swift X. For somereason oit goes up to 60 all the way down to 25fps in the same scene, happend more often in ground
So my ryzen 3600 and GTX 1070 should farewell at 1440p?
Does someone can fix the shadow & light bugs ? Very annoying 😭
Im using RX 580
im a simple guy, i see a df video , i hit like
No Brasil com base nos preços a concorrente da RTX3060 e a RX6600XT
Acho a RTX 3060 mais negócio por conta do DLSS e melhor performance no geral em jogos com Ray Tracing
You're right. The RX 6600XT was going to provide a more relatable option in the AMD side
This makes me super happy to see my 1060 will still hold it's own. Cant wait to get it:)
not really
Oh, when you said multi GPU I thought about the actual multi GPU thing with the DX12 evolution of SLI which is not SLI.
But then again it makes sense it's not it because RTX doesn't work with multi GPU (which is a damn shame by the way).
Any you guys please Cover the PS5 doing Fidelity more at 40 Hz?
It’s weird they aren’t
@@coladapo3 ikr it’s so strange I rlly want them to cover it
@@bigdaddyumi you would think they would be jumping at an uncapped console exclusive optimized game that also has a decent pic version for benching
im on rtx 3060, on medium and hight settings the fpz not much differ, why is that
DF maybe a 5800X 3D performance video?
This makes me very happy. I have the MSI Katana I bought with 3060 RTX, 16 GB ram and i7 11800h. While the 3080 is more powerful I should be able to max this out and handle more fps with the better CPU.
at 1080p
@@EVR-NOIR on everything maxed out @1080p and ray tracing on max I get 50-70 fps not bad at all.
RTX 3080 130W + i7-11800H laptop user here. Unfortunately, Spider-Man is a really heavy game to run with RT ON, even with the optimized settings. At 1080p, the game drops framerate to mid 40's while swinging. Overall, I preffer to run the game with RT OFF and enjoy the gameplay over 100 fps.
I think on the laptop the performance is very bad becaus of poor GPU power usage, i get only 40 Watt while playing, not so in other games...its something they will fix with a future patch ( its already in the patch notes of the latest patch)
There are several versions of the mobile RTX 3080. They differ in memory and maximum power. 130W is not enough for the card. Models with TDP 150-160W have a much better result. Besides, it may also be the fault of the CPU and too little power limit. Unfortunately, the Tagra needs a powerful CPU, otherwise the RTX 3080 will be significantly limited
@@pietrofantastic it’s not the laptop problem . I owns rtx 3070 130w and 5800h and im able to play many games with ray tracing on more than 60fps but when comes to spiderman this is impossible the game is broken that’s it
People seem to forget the 6650xt launched. The 6600xt is almost out of stock and expensive because of it , while the 6650xt sits just above the 3060 price and is readily available .
What region? In the US they're both available and way cheaper than the 3060
@@shanez1215 EU (nl).. 3060 keeps dropping (and is just under EUR 400, now). The cheapest 6600XT starts at 409,- EUR and goes up quickly, but there are just a few (filter on 3060's chips, and you get 30+ cards. Filter on 6600XT chips, and you get < 10 cards.). The 6650XT is more available and starts at EUR 400,-, but there is quite a bit of choice that stays under EUR 430,-.
It makes it the better choice in pure rasterization... if you ignore all the other aspects in making a choice :).
Still, at our above EUR 400,- while the 1060 was already expensive back then around EUR 300,- :(
You guys rock. Always excellent content.
if you are on 1060, use 511.65 driver. Very Smooth. I have to downgrade from 512 ones because of stuttering.
What about the puddles?
Needs optimizations for both AMD CPUs and GPUs. This title should be performing much better on AMD considering PS5 runs on AMD hardware.
Games so unoptimized it’s crazy