Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales - Digital Foundry Tech Review - Welcome To The Next Generation
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- The one you've been waiting for. In traditional Linneman detail, John takes an extended look at Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales, breaking down the technology and going in depth on the increase to detail, improved fidelity in character rendering, the improvements delivered by ray tracing and of course, fidelity 30fps vs performance 60fps mode comparisons.
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Prepare to hear the word reflection a million times this gen.
16 times the details
Lol
I will reflect on that....
Over rated reflections
@@Kanti12311 It just works
Gamers : Where are the puddles?
Insomniac: HERE ARE ALL THE PUDDLES.
Puddles the game... With some spiderman
lol, wished we could time travel about 13 years ago when Ubisoft used to market their games with upscaled sampled screenshots during the whole PS3/360/PC era.
@@crithon uhh they are pretty much doing that even now, releasing a cinematic trailer and screenshot that would look nothing like the final game. Lol
@@darkdevil6466 Not surprised
With the recent update on the original spiderman 2018 game theres actually too many puddles now.
*When people do 60fps at 1080p with full ray tracing on PC, it's usually with a graphics card that costs $500 (and up) on its own, not counting the other $300-$400 parts that surround it*
Keep some expectations in check. This rock-solid native 4K/30 mode with deep RT world coverage is fantastic for a first-gen, cross-gen game on an affordable console.
my hope is that now RT is a mainstream consideration, theres a proliferation of new techniques and efficiencies discovered to give the benefit with some tricks that make it more efficient
Just you wait until we finally get affordable Ray tracing cards. Nvidia should start to release the 3060 and 3060ti within months
@@jonny9464 I'm looking for a used 10 series gpu and don't care about Ray tracing and only have like a 1080p monitor. Current gpu is rx 570 4gb but it's struggling and I have to turn down lots of game settings to get 60fps now. Is the gtx 1070 any good for around 190?. I think it performs same as gtx 1660ti lol
@@jonny9464 well I won't have money until Christmas so we'll see
@Mohammed Console is never going to be a PC though, PS5 performance looks great but it's still a console with all the console limitations.
DF: The first thing that really sticks out is
Me: Peter Parker’s new face!
DF: the hair strain system.
Me: Yes the hair system.
@miles tom your name is miles. based
@@overwatchtoo biased*
Look how they massacred my boy
If this cross-gen Spidey looks so good, just imagine how a fully next gen game will deliver 😬😳
Imagine 2025-2026 graphics
@@87donofrio Avengers Endgame graphics in 30 fps
Everything looks like fine wine, but, i want them to make the character faces more expressive. They probably had to sacrifice face animation a bit due to the pandemic.
No 4K 60. Weak azz console
This is not a "new game", technically! Therefore, it's not a cross gen game🤦🏾♂️
"Spiderman raytraced 30fps mode" - This is brilliant..."spiderman 60fps mode"- but, i LIKE this .
60fps mode for this game looks transformative.
I feel like such a pleb, but in all the comparisons between fedelity and performance, i can't spot the difference between 30 and 60fps haha
@@Neco3376 maybe the TH-cam video hadn't rendered at 60fps yet. You definitely feel it in person and during gameplay, its far more responsive.
Only 60fps? In 2020? Fail.
@@ebridgewater please show me a pc that can do these graphics at a higher frame rate for $500
This game looks effing fantastic and it is nice to see that what Sony said about fast loading times really shines here.
It is utterly stunning how a game that looks this good can load so fast from the dashboard to the meny and then just another 2 seconds to load the save fil and you are in this insanely good looking open world game.
Impressive to say the least.
It is amazing what a talented team of developers can do.
This looks unbelievable. I couldn't imagine all the work that went into something like this especially with reflections and finer details. Unreal.
And there's mofos out there calling this "a DLC"
@@Godmcgod ... Because it is a standalone dlc for a lastgen game's engine. Can't you tell? It's virtually the same game with a few bells and whistles and a new coat of paint. Nothing wrong with that but the pricing fiasco makes this game a scam. Should've been $40 for Miles Morales and a free upgrade to owners of PS4 Spiderman. Y'all are getting shafted really hard. Enjoy it.
And in just 30FPS...lag lag lag...😂😂😂
@@DravicPL people are shafted for buying an Xbox since there absolutely no launch exclusives
@@boody-fg4hb the Xbox exclusive is the power to run multiplatform games better to keep you busy while their dozen of exclusive good games comes out. And good exclusives are worth waiting for.
The fast loading, the textures, ray tracing 30fps mode, full 60fps performance mode, haptic feedback and adaptive triggers. God damn I cant wait to get my ps5 on Thursday.
ACG said the controller vibrates the entire game and is borderline annoying
@@metallicafan416 You can adjust strength of haptics and turn them off. Stop raining on the parade. Most people are thoroughly excited!
And 3d audio 😱
@@metallicafan416 he's probably the only one that Complains about it, IGN, Gamespot, Easy Allies all liked the Haptic and adaptive Trigger features.
@@metallicafan416 ACG is biased towards Xbox, these are rough times for them
*When Naughty Dog releases a PS5 game*
Me: This is a live action film.
Last of us 2 looks like that on ps4 . I wonder how there new games will look in PS5 .
Probably dropping LOU2 remastered similar to what they did with LOU1
If their games also include social justice nonsense revenge stories and man-like women, then does it even matter?
@@Kynareth6 so which games do you like ?
@@Kynareth6"man-like woman" ????
Where do you live in? Disney movies?
Kudos to Insomniac for adding a solid 60fps performance mode. The cherry on top would have been a 1080p 60fps mode WITH all the bells and whistles including Ray Tracing.
You got your wish today lmao
@@blazed407 Great! What Source?
@@rodzandz 60 fps with RT
Yeah, they have it now and it it is amazing
@@blazed407 And the new Performance RT mode is even better than OP described, as its 1440p upscale to 4K!
The shift to NY in the winter is so fantastic. OG Division vibes.
But the map is exactly the same as Spiderman PS4?
@@HM-wn2in yeah but some areas are updated with more details like Harlem
I actually picked up Division a couple of days ago because I read good things about the snowy winter look, so I'll be playing it for the first time
Division 1 vibe was excellent 👌🏼
@@HM-wn2in it looks stunning but I do feel they are overcharging now. The game is a bit shorter and it seems they had the entire foundation already there 😕 would've been nice if they'd sell it at around 40/50
For a launch game this looks bloody incredible on the PS5. 60fps mode, RT mode, use of dualsense and 3d audio. How did insomniac do this in 2 years while working on Ratchet and Clank!
They didn’t develop the game from scratch. There were a lot of upgrades but that’s them iterating over what was already available.
Ratchet and Clank however, that’s an entirely different story.
I would think the base game and engine was designed with assets for ps5 the whole time.
Well, obviously because all their work on Spiderman PS4 was already there...
@@anotter_one its not a truely next gen game and it looks amazing.... image spiderman 2 for ps5 only.... godly
Yes of course they had a lot in place from the previous Spider-Man otherwise it would have taken them 5 years or so. But still to put out a new game with lots of improvements etc at the same time as making Ratchet and Clank which also looks phenomenal is no mean feat.
I can imagine SSDs are gonna be a big one for those players who have never really experienced fast ssd loading
I mean nobody experienced loading a random save file in an open-world game like Spider-Man MM in 1.5 seconds: 2:01. That's pretty crazy and practically instant load times.
Even regular SSD's do not load that fast as the PS5 one.
The loading times are incredible
The PS5 SSD is a game changer no pun, I bought this today and it installed in like 10 mins, loading is basically obsolete in this and 2K21 (THATS ALL I HAVE SO FAR LOL) Its crazy that it's even capable to load in less than 5 seconds
@@hp8644 That’s the power of NVMe drives
PS6 review be like: The DNA strings on his skin are rendered beautiful in 8k 120fps but they aren't raytraced...
verdict 7/10
yeah things are getting too technical. I miss the days where game were just about fun and originality, with such limited machines (80s and 90s)
@@JuanSinMiedo441 there are still the games like that. Hollow knight, blasphemous and much much more smaller games
@@JuanSinMiedo441 Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. Don't act like games from prior generations weren't also pushing the envelope technically either. You can have both, these things are not mutually exclusive and never have been, even with a new console generation beginning. This backwards ass thinking is nothing but a self-imposed, negativity that's clouding you to all the quality, fun shit that's coming out. Video games weren't better twenty years ago, and they aren't better now - there's plenty of games of all levels. Fun, challenging, mediocre, bad, and everything in between.
@@JuanSinMiedo441 they were 60 at least
@Chiriac Puiu agree. Its some people who are bitching about 4k 60frames. 2013 it was all about 1080p 60frames. Now we have in demon souls 1440p and 60 frames and the people are still not happy. If we have 4k 60 frames they will say now bur without raytracing. With raytracing its just 30frames. And if we will have 4k 60 frames with raytracing on ps5 pro they will say: but it should be 8k 120 frames. Just ignore this 1% of players and enjoy the games. Most didnt even care
“Peter Parker’s face grew on me pretty quickly” isn’t something you hear every day.
i mean it did for me
face looks bad, can't wait to play miles game
Peter looks way younger than Miles. It just doesn’t work IMO.
@@gonschor7dleven Miles looks too old for a 15-year-old. The new Peter model actually looks his age at 23 years old.
Doc Oc said it once
That 60fps mode is all I want out of future console games. Really glad to see SM MM is essentially locked 60 in performance mode!
Can’t wait to see you back on the RDX podcast!
@@sudesha30 Every Tuesday bud. This coming week we will be on Monday though instead.
@@Fonz_Gaming will be there
yea, sadly you will not see a lot of 60 fps modes with the next gen titles, these are all cross gen titles. this is why i bought a rtx3080 and not a ps5 or xbox4. idc about 4 sec. less loading times or 4k, i just want to play at 50fps minimum.
Series x would have ran this in 4K 60
Just wanted to say thanks for putting so much work into your videos. You guys are the best!
I just finished Miles Morales on PS5 tonight. It was so beautiful. I think back to the 80s when I was a kid playing Super Mario Bros on Nintendo and thinking games couldn't get any better-looking. Now we get film-like games. I'm excited for more AAA games for the PS5!
8:50 even the birds' flight patterns are next gen!
Ngl it has better animation than the animation of nba 2k21
Lol
The twitching legs on chilly surface @ 11:36 also looks believably next gen
Someone pointed out that the birds went through the building
2:07 gaad damn that’s fast
Yeah wtf was that man
You can't even go grab a drink or go for a piss any more 🙄
Yeah that's what we PC guys have been on about for years now, glad that it made its way to both consoles, it will bring a shift in development of games & we too would benefit from it
@Airidas Kiveris SSD is a broad term. from sata drives to nvme there are a lot of varying levels of speed that you can get from an SSD. The PS5 uses PCI-E 4.0 (Gen 4) NVME SSD. I have a samsung 970 Evo, which is PCI-E 3.0, still very fast but not quite as fast as 4.0 and what is in the Next gen consoles. You probably have a gen 3 NVME or SATA drive which is why no game loads THAT FAST for you.
@Airidas Kiveris Yeah, I was just commenting on the difference a SSD makes over a HDD.
And remember that Sony's implementing a special/custom decompression system which increases the already insanely fast PCIe 4.0 speeds and the fact that it's a first party title from Sony, so it's greatly optimised.
But we too should be reaping the benefits of things like Microsoft's Direct Storage API, RTX I/O & AMD's SAM in the coming years, I just wish I was a bit younger though.
This is an amazing in depth look I’ve been waiting for! The game looks insane and I can’t wait to try both modes.
From a guy playing on the old Atari Console this literally blew my mind.
This is way better than my Atari 2600 games.
@@jessepotter365
But X-MAN on ATARI 2600 was also damn good
Welcome to 2020😂
No ray tracing on Pong?
@@kaimargonar1000 no but it did have motion blur. Although that was more a feature of the crt.
This game looks like the original trailer for The Division but with faster movement, ray tracing, and 4k.
Ubisoft & it's trailers😂
But yeah that Snowdrop engine demo was sick back then
Not 4k with ray tracing and only 30 fps
@@stevie-b sorry 1800p with TAA reconstruction making it essentially impossible to actually notice it’s not 2160p. 30fps with this games motion blur is great and if you don’t like it 60fps with no ray tracing is easily accessible.
No kidding
5 years later....
The SSD is really impressive. Sony did a great job on it. Hope you PS guys enjoy your new system
SSD slower than xsx, tests today already done)) very funny
@@Goldmember200887 Probably just due to the lack of optimization, and the fact that PS5 is probably running emulated PS4 games, where Xbox SX is running them natively. I do think it's overhyped, but it's still impressive
@@Goldmember200887 Yeah no. Two last gen games and not optimised. The PS5 SSD is far superior. How much it'll actually be utilised remains to be seen however.
@@Jhakaro ok))))) tests says another things)) ps5 is not bad console, but SSD is not different then xsx in time, even slower.
It is not my mind, it is tests
@@Goldmember200887 5 game sample size is laughable. No one with any amount of integrity will use that to support their case.
Amazing, Richard. As always, an awesome video from digital foundry. Thank you guys for your hard work!!
Im curious to know if insomniac will release a "custom graphics" settings. I know 4k resolution is all the rage right now but if i can play this at full 1080p, ray traced at locked 60FPS. That would be great.
its honestly the one thing i was wondering about when he was talking about graphics
@@kmakumane258 don’t worry it’s locked at 60 in performance mode
@@therealmc3966 yes it is, but they want the resolution lower than the 1440p in performance mode but instead have ray tracing (and 60 fps)...
@@OSTOwnage ohh then yeah I have no clue
@@OSTOwnage my ps5 comes today from pre order If you have any questions I’ll answer them
what a way to start next gen consoles, i'm glad that insomniac put the console to a higher level, i'd love to see a 1080p 60fps ray tracing mode, that will interesting to check
Same. The only tv I have available where I am right now is 1080
exactly
1080p60 with ray tracing
1080p is still a great resolution, maybe the only people who won't agree are those who've got 4k tvs (not me unfortunately)
Sony and Microsoft are Both very silent about 1080p and I dont get IT.... I would choose 1080p with raytracing and high detail (instead of ultra) all Day every Day above 30fps 4k. The diffirence when playing between high and ultra is unoticeable while flippin Both analoge sticks left and right but gives at least 20% preformance benefit.
The fact that everything seems to float really disturbs me when everything else looks so great. Proper raytraced shadows, or a global illumination mix would do a lot.
In adventure games everything above 40fps looks 'sharp' to me and i can't tell the difference between 1440p and 4k when i'm farther than 3m to a 60" tv. I don't care about all those numbers, but i do care about amazing global illumination and reflections. (See unreal 5 trailer.)
Drop the marketing numbers bs, give us visuals!
The comparison between fidelity mode and performance mode reminded me so hard what a difference 30fps and 60fps is again. My eyes just looked at the right the whole time.
Yeah but I would rather use 30 FPS mode. The RT looks amazing
@Rohan Rathour To be fair though, i really do wonder how often one would notice this since you will be web slinging half of the time or in combat, which is highly more enjoyable in 60 fps. Ray tracing looks really good but for a game like this, it's 60fps for me. In the end it is personal preference
Imo you dont see a differnce if u go from 30 to 60. Just a diference if u go from 60 to 30.
@@hiwasgeht7945 you make no sense
@@hiwasgeht7945 Yes you do see a difference. It's just much more massive if you go from 60 to 30. But going from 30 to 60 is also still massive.
Love the fact that you can see pedestrians in the distance at 11:50 just sliding in the raytracing reflections. Look at the second crossroad and beyond.
Pedestrian animation only seem to be in effect at relatively low distance.
20:23 As a programmer I find this achievement amusing to get when your game crashes
Jesus, this game looks phenomenal, and plays phenomenally. These are the kind of games we deserve going into next-gen, Insomniac are wizards at their craft and I can’t wait to experience not only this and Ratchet and Clank, but also the kinds of games that will come out by the end of this generation.
it looks good but the gameplay is the same generic button mash overly easy nonsense from the batman arkham games, very mechanically shallow and the ratchet and clank remake was a shallow disspaoinng butchering of the original game.
Ratchet and clank 1 and 2 are some of my favourite games, i urge everyone to go back and play them they are better than the remake by a lot and better than most games today.
@@WookieWarriorz I agree that this game isn’t the most ambitious and most fresh game ever made, but I do still think that Insomniac definitely have a handle on the franchise and are currently putting out good games that do Spider-Man justice.
The fact that this game looks so stunning when it's basically an upgraded previous gen title makes me very optimistic for dedicated PS5/XSX titles. In a few years, there's going to be some exceptional stuff out there. The leap from PS4 to PS5 reminds me of the PS2-PS3 upgrade far more than the more subtle PS3-PS4 upgrade.
PS4 to PS5 isn't that major custom SSD to new CPU/GPU from AMD that's it.
It's about time developers to start delivering locked 60FPS performance on their games. There's no excuse this time.
My gf was playing Horizon on PS4 on our 4k HDR TV and I picked it up on my PC with a new 3080 and plugged it into the same 4k TV, the biggest difference between the two with 60fps+ on the PC was huge. The 60fps alone made a huge difference.
60 FPS definitely is a game changer for any game.
Shooters need to be at 120fps and then all other games need performance modes with 60fps and higher graphics with 30fps.
I'm getting ps5 now for sure, demon souls and spidy day one.
Same!
Yep
Good luck finding one dude, lol
Wow so lucky and i cant afford one :( good luck
I got 2 extra I'm selling if you miss out day 1
Honestly mind blown with the fidelity mode and ray tracing, been playing on my OG PS4 till now. I think i'm in for a treat, have miles morales pre-ordered along with my PS5
Same here. I passed on the PS4 Pro so I know we are really going to see/feel that next gen leap coming from 1080p (HDR) to true 4k/30-60.
I would love an "optional third mode" where you can play "1080p at 60fps with Ray tracing".😳
Damn, this almost looks as good as a Ubisoft trailer for a PS3 game
Hahaha! I laughed way too hard and then cried for all the lies. Well played.
Better
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Ahh, blatant deception. I almost recall when I was actually curious about what Ubisoft could offer. Good times...
I really wish I could just turn down the resolution to 1080p, uncap the framerate and keep raytracing turned on. My TV is only 1080p and I sit far away enough that aliasing isn't really a problem. Games shouldn't force higher resolutions that 1080p yet. It should be optional, since the higher framerate is preferred in my, and many others, cases.
I may have agreed with you 3 -4 years ago, but nowadays with 4k tv, being as cheap as the full HD's a few years ago, and they slowly taking over our living rooms, I'd have to disagree.
@@dacracking5768 more options never hurt anyone
@@maltheman96 i disagree, it would cost more development resources for that. They would have to tune the game for that. So it would hurt the developers some what. But if you want a lot more options, you also might as well go to pc. But I do get that more options would be nice.
@@dacracking5768 they don't cost the Devs. So many people know a lot about hardware but completely clueless about how development processes work, its at max, taking 5 hours of extra work. And no excess budget. More options ARE good for EVERYONE. no other way to spin it.
you can now, its a performance RT mode they added in a patch :D
They should give the option for lower resolution and get RT+60fps
Yes. It's frustrating to know that my console is rendering pixels that it can't even send to my screen.
Edit: Wow! It's here. Insomniac is really raising the bar.
@@ArchHippy Exactly. And I will Stick with 1080p, since 4k60fps has been a hard Thing to achieve in these types of Games. They need to add this option
Definitely. 1080p60 with ray-tracing is the perfect option. John even says it himself in the video: pixel counts just don't matter that much these days.
@@lilyflower6265 That's called frame interpolation and it looks awful. Lots of TVs have it and it is always a blurry muddy juttery mess. Never use frame interpolation. All it does is add frames where they aren't. "4K checkerboard" doesn't look anything even remotely like it.
They just did, Performance RT
I always thought spiderman on ps4 looked great. Seeing them side by side now makes the old game look like a comic book. What an improvement in details and lightning. Holy shit!
The ironic thing is that I think Insomniac significantly improved their art style as well so Miles Morales looks more like a comic book to me in a good way.
As a pc guy, I’m thoroughly impressed. Good job Sony and congrats console owners!
Yeah it's amazing how far the systems have come along over the last 25 years.
Hey man, this will be happening for PC too now that games are being designed with SSD in mind.
Congrats to you too 🎊🎉
PC Gamer can be happy. You become 60
Fps With Raytracing LOL
Consoles becoming PCs more and more each generation. That benefits PC gamers more than ever.
@@bestofmusicchannel since Ps4 and Xbox One. Consoles are my option cheapest way for Gaming. You can deal With retail Games Second Hand. And alot stuff is sharing With Friends. Like PS plus. PC Gaming im too have 3080 But is More expensive. Games are cheaper. New.... But Second Hand retail Games are cheaper than PC Games. And i can Play 7 years. My 1070 only 3 Years.
What I really love of these Spiderman games is that it really resembles all that is Spiderman. Like it has things from the comic, the movies and just the overall imagination it would be like if you were Spiderman. Just so cool man
Hey, at 4:00 that's the death stranding PS4 dynamic theme tune. What a way to set the atmosphere... A grade editing gentlemen.
Two videos from digital foundry at the same time, this must be someone's birthday
@Scribble Scrable
Nah, money hurting for them
Sony pays them of course. This is pure Playstation propaganda.
@cesar leon happy birthday!!!!
@cesar leon happy birthday! and I wish you, your two little girls and your wife to be happy
Spider-man's civilian NPC's look like the playable characters in Watch Dogs Legion. SMH.
Is that a good or bad thing? Lol
@@dusk3219 good thing. I believe
But everything is playable in Legion? So...
@@illuminazi9208 Well seeing as he put SMH at the end which means shaking my head, I highly doubt it's a good thing. Don't you have a working brain???
Ain't all NPC in watch dogs playable
I'm blown away, this is a good start for next gen. Thanks for this nice review.
Man, such a great review!! Could feel the excitement!
Now imagine a Naughty Dog game or a full next-gen title from first party studios on the PS5. Getting hyped...
Amazing 🤩
God of War Ragnarok. It's going to be a system seller
I do think people need to reign in their expectations for a massive graphics upgrade this gen as GPU's have more or less doubled in performance - but ray tracing or 60 fps both eat up that double performance and memory bandwidth hasn't scaled a whole lot. Last gen had fairly strong visuals, but the CPU's and storage solution didn't really upgrade from the 360/PS3 era. Even with the Pro/X consoles you were left with the PC equal to something along the lines of pairing a GTX 1060 or a RX 460 with an AMD bulldozer. This gen everything has been brought into balance; this will mark the most balanced gen we've ever had. People should be far more excited about how exclusive games that aren't trying to target the PS4 or a lower end PC can be designed around that SSD and significantly stronger CPU. How worlds could feel seamless, larger and more alive than ever. And as much as I love the Series X, this is where Sony can and will have a massive advantage in game design... because as long as Microsoft continues to dual release their games on PC, unless they make the PC specs require an SSD, and specs that at least match the Series X, they will always be limited in how they can design worlds.
Tlou 3 :D
@@richardfranklin6003 We're already seeing a massive graphics upgrade right now with Demon souls and Miles. Please shut up and let people be excited
I am floored they got that level of RT in a PS5.
Especially right out of the gate at launch!
That's like low settings RT on PC but it still looks impressive. PC players act like low raytracing setting doesn't look good but it's amazing if you don't compare it to ultra settings RT.
The best is yet to come
@@mrsasshole the best is yet to come
@@Dev-nr4dw well this was made for both the ps4 and the ps5. Im sure ps5 games later on will look better. And to be frank ps exclusives have always looked better than anything pc can bring. Kinda sad tbh. Back when uncharted 4 came out. Nothing on pc came close to that. And the lotu2 would blow just about anything on pc. Well see what happens later on.
Man... what a great ray tracing showing. I’m more impressed each time I learn more about what they are pulling off. I hope Microsoft is paying attention
This game's a masterpiece on ps5. They added a Performance RT mode running @ 60fps & its amazing!!!
A must own title that shows the potential & power of ps5. Thanks 4 the great analysis John. 👍👊🙏❤️
So smooth, shiny and new. Will be great playing Spider-Man Remastered and straight to Miles Morales. Watching DF is like Church on Sundays learning the spoken word on Tech.
Finally!! The most awaited review of PS5 yet!!! Really wanted to see such a detailed analysis of Next Gen graphics. A big thank you to Digital Foundry!! You guys are awesome!!!
DF’s analysis are so good! Here for this content!
The fur on the hood is just Sony flexing.
Thats an AMD and INSOMNIAC flex SONY DOES NOT make GAMES OR GPUs kid.
@@neosrt10 nah, it's an insomniac flex, everyone is using AMD, but it's the developers that know how to utilise the hardware properly :)
The OG poster said Sony..not insomniac son , @Afsan23 But dont be narrow Raytracing has been done better than Insomniac in several games Modern Warfare, Battlefield, Doom Insomniac is ok but nowhere near the status of COD graphics ..your Spiderman Fanboying.
@@neosrt10 Insomniac is Sony
@@shineinouzen7412 No they are not....they are dev owned by Sony ....just Microsoft owns Ninja Theory.
OK, this just blows my mind!
Can't believe how impressive this looks.
Stunningly mind boggling
Now imagine a full next gen title instead of this cross gen title
truly next gen graphics
A 1080p/60fps+RT mode would be great.
The problem is that the scaling of resolution doesn't help RT really... The RT is so taxing that lowering the resolution won't help that much sadly.
Ikr. It's like they've forgotten about 1080p gang. I'm totally fine with not upgrading to 4k tv. Just give me all the bells and whistles at 1080p SONY
It's called Next Gen for a reason, but I agree just give full performance over resolution any day👍🏿
@@fahadmansuri You should still have better image quality on 1080p if the game renders at higher resolution and downscales.
@Fahad Mansuri no matter how hard developers try, there is always someone complaining.
I love your videos, thankyou so much for doing such a Stella job explaining next gen feats for us. Big Like!! 👍
Played this a bit today and just wow. TH-cam does it no justice. This game is so beautiful. Its colorful, the effects are stunning, the lighting along with post processing effects like the film grain work perfectly. And the snow falling in the beginning of the game is just beautiful. And its not just a screen effect, nor is it a partial weather and screen effect. Its entirely real weather, in photo mode you can see how it works. This was well above my expectations. Cant wait to see how the proper spiderman 2 will look.
Love you guys, can't wait for next gen, were almost there guys, gonna be great!!!
Its been here for years. On your PC.
5:35 thats the SSD and super fast IO throughput
yeah new stuff coming with PS5 and Xbox Series consoles
I tried to ignore it
Damn, why can't we get a "middle ground mode" that's just 1080p, 60fps and Ray tracing?
Maybe there will be in a future patch, but I doubt it. These games on the most expensive consoles seem to have settled for 2 options: nicer graphics at 30fps, or worse graphics but smoother gameplay at 60fps. I guess they are sticking to the "a console is not a PC" mantra.
Ray Tracing is probably still very demanding.
It’s 2020. We aren’t gaming in 1080p any more.
@@makemelaughyouants We're also not gaming in 30fps anymore either.
@@FunkyGhost37 and not with ray tracing
8:04 actual reflections of buildings, I've been wanting this since the PS3 days.
First playthrough: fidelity mode. I am used to the 30fps cuz I just played through Spiderman ps4. And because it stays locked in at 30fps, I am just fine with that.
Second playthrough: performance mode. Just to experience the smoother 60 fps, and because I'll be less interested in looking at all the shiny things
Main story - Fidelity mode
Cleanup for Platinum - Performance mode
@@tinek0803 good idea!
That is a good call. Because once you go 60fps, I don't think you'll be able to go back 😅
@@Camdavis11
Difference between 60 and 30 isn't so massive that you can't go back to.
PC gamers with high end 16K1000 fps rigs are able to adjust to 30fps in order to enjoy the PlayStation exclusives.
It was so on PS4 and PS3 and PS2 and PS1.
Why wouldn't be on PS5 as well?
@@GameslordXY of course I can adjust as well but after seeing the same game running at 60 for a while, it's hard to go back to 30.
But for example, Last of us 2 is totally fine at 30 for me. However I'm sure if they release a patch for 60fps on ps5, I would have trouble playing it again at 30 on ps4.
Of course it's just my preference and I totally get where you're coming from. Given enough time your brain will adjust to any frame rate. I mean, we all loved goldeneye on n64 as kids.....
Here's an interesting optimization : pedestrians within reflections are animated up close, but not in the distance, as seen at 11:50 where the pedestrians closer to the camera (reflected near Mile's legs and hands) are animated normally but the ones in the distance (reflected near his head and above) are not. It's really subtle when the characters are this small.
loving the coverage - so good
Phenomenal analysis as always, John!
I noticed in the scene at 11:50, distant pedestrian reflections are floating across without moving their limbs. It's most obvious on the closest crosswalk that is lit by the Sun. Is that part of the LoD or a very minor bug?
This. Looks. Incredible! The loading times made my jaw drop and the fidelity modes and performance modes were so impressive. Personally, I’ll be running fidelity mode. These Spider-Man games are like interactive movies, so I don’t mind the 30 FPS for a more filmic game. I honestly want to be blown away by visuals.
I feel the same way. I'm coming from the base PS4 to the PS5 so just playing in 4k is going to be a big jump for me but with ray tracing added I know I'm going to be blown away. I will check out the 60fps mode at some point though. Either mid game or for side missions
20:25 "hanging by a thread". So trophies can now double as an error message eh?
Jokes aside, I really like how the game looks and perform. I think I'll go with performance mode on this one.
Hidden Trophy: Damn, that's not supposed to happen.
Awesome man... DF breakdown games so well I never feel cheated on quality when I purchase games based on their hard truths! 👏 👏 👏
The extra level of detail at 8:50 all I can focus on are the birds flying through the building lmao
The game looks insane, can't wait
No 4K 60. Weak azz console
@@erfgthygreas1709 oh look a 🤡 what are you 10 years old? Theres plenty games running 4k60 🖕
it looks like the old spider man my guy, almost nothing changed
@@vinkobilandzic22 lol you better get those eyes checked if you missed all that ray tracing. Still better then anything shown on the series x
@@vinkobilandzic22 of you look on a 1080p Screen... not even close. But I bet you sure hype gears 5 remaster as hell. 🤷♂️
You know what. Im gonna be playing this game. It looks damn good. I was gonna hold off. But this looks too good
Very thorough analysis. Nice work!!
This was a really well done video. Answered a lot my questions much better than IGN videos. Fantastic comparisons side by side between the modes
This sounds so good. I can't wait for next week!!
1080p/1440p 60fps with ray tracing would have been a nice option
i agree
It’s not as simple. When it comes to all these systems it is not merely a cut the resolution in half and you automatically get RT and 60FPS locked. There’s no linearity to the setup meaning that a), the dev needs to actively work to get it to work that way specifically, or b), they already tried, didn’t like what they were getting, and dropped it in favor of putting resources somewhere else.
@Yo Hoo
What are you bitching about?
@@nighttimestalker That is the internet's version of the guy standing outside the convenience store yelling at customers when they look at him. Keep it movin'.
@@MegaRayland it kinda is. With my 3080 I can do native 4k with all tracing on Control and get 25-30fps. But if I turn resolution down to native 1440p I get 55-60fps. RT can scale pretty well but yea Devs must have not bothered because they thought they might get backlash for having a resolution 1440p or lower.
Awesome coverage!
Quality content right here. Good job John!
Playing Death Stranding background music while talking about hair stranding is a massive flex. Well done sir
@@cladoxylopsida568 it was a joke, brother
What song?
@@flaw3dkiller11 starts at about 1:50 and is the song “An Endless Beach”
@@JCity17 holy crap thanks this been bothering me for 3 months
Xbox Guy here:
This looks pretty amazing. Can't wait to get my hands on it!
And I agree it is going to be tough to choose between Quality and Performance mode. The Ray Tracing looks great, but I love me some 60fps.
where is ur Master Chief now
just kidding i love Halo
@@zohebsaikia ha ha 😭
Jk, hopefully getting some texture layers added tbh
@Gustavo Duran I agree Gustavo. Can't wait to see and hear more about SoD3. I really hope the have upgradable cars and such. Bust out a welder and add reinforcements. Weapon modding would be great! Revamped driving mechanics. Say a keen to Forza Horizon driving.
I kind of hope they take a more simulation style than a arcade style. Something like Project Zomboid but State of Decay.....
Can't wait man.
Shame it's not on series x where it would perform quite a bit better
I don't get why they went with only 2 modes, I would add a 3rd : "Middle Ground" --> 1080p or 1440p (depending on what the system can handle + 60 FPS + Ray Tracing
I fell like 60 DPS is nice, but after seeing all the ray tracing reflections I feel you are missing a lot, I'd rather go down in resolution and have the FPS and the Ray Tracing, is that just me?
Agreee. I really hope they add support for 1440p like XSX has
@@saxoman1 well it seems ps5 won't be supporting 1440p, at least not right now.
@@shoomples4622 Maybe this is gonna be PS5 Slim feature? Dunno, on this field Microsoft won.
I don't know how it is in the US or in Japan, but in europe, most of people only have a 1080p TV., so your mid range mode would be perfect
Lol,the performance for 4k compared to raytracing is miniscule at best
Thank you for this! It was enjoyable to watch and made me really excited for next games.
Insomniac is such a talented Developer. Well done, Insomniac. Looking forward to the Ratchet and Clank stuff and their future games (●'◡'●)
And spyro god i love spyro i know toys for bob made the remaster but still the old one just doesn’t get off my mind love the childhood days when playing on ps1-2
@@kinglygamingpro1749 And lets not forget Infamous
oOVanHalenOo i hope they do a version of sunset overdrive for playstation players. That was a fantastic game on xbox.
@@loganhughes8601 Bruh infamous is made by SuckerPunch
@@ludwig2952 I was thinking of Resistance. My all time favorite PS3 Game.....please don’t same I’m wrong again.
I'm still hoping for a 60fps 1080p mode with RT, even if they half the RT resolution.
This is the way
You probably wouldn't need to go that far to achieve that res. 1080p is a quarter of the resolution of 4K already, so the performance savings there are already extreme.
I imagine it's just because of perceived lack of demand for such a feature (which is a pity), maybe it will come some time after release? I wouldn't hold my breath though.
Perhaps they'll offer an unlocked frames mode with RT? That would mean if you're displaying on a low res screen, it would just push as many frames as it can render in time
@@MrVelociraptor75 yeah. I hope this becomes an option. Rather silly to completely neglect 1080p
@@MrVelociraptor75 1080p is half of 4k not quarter. 4k is 2160p while full hd is 1080p
@@ExZ1te *sigh* - 4K is 3,840 x 2,160 pixels compared to 1920 x 1080 pixels.
On a screen, 4k video contains more than 8 million pixels compared to just 2 million pixels for 1080p.
That's 4 x the amount of pixels, 4 times the amount of work for the GPU. (1440p is 50% of 4K too, fyi)
It also makes things like Ray-tracing considerably harder to trace (which is why they usually calculate it at a lower-res and upsample and/or use simplified BVH etc etc)
Fantastic review. Can’t wait to play this
Who cares about some of the minor limitations of RT. This game looks incredible & show cases the potential of RT in game to a very high standard. My hi end PC gaming buddies were blown away by SMM & several even got a ps5.
What do u expect from digital foundary and other influencers and channel on youtube. They are either pc shrills or under microsoft's influence.
3rd party devs always do. They deliberatly stiffle the performance on consoles to please pc hardware manufacturers especially nvida.
That's what happens every gen. The cards or cpus that out perform consoles in digital foundary tests at the begenning of a generation the same hardware absolutely struggle to run games on par with console settings 4 years down the line. Yet that same hardware was out performing consoles at the begenning of the generation.
When horizon forbidden west an open world graphics power house can run locked 60 fps. For that matter aother utterly stunning open world game spiderman miles moralis runs at a locked 60 fps with ray tracing enabled. How on earth plague tale requirm can't run at 60 fps is beyond me. Shame on this developer.
Also a channel called kingthrashgaming exposed digital foundary by using their own screenshots and videos. Especially in a game like control with ray tracing enabled. Series x has so many ray tracing effects missing while ps5 renders them completely.
It's a night and day difference. Series x has many bottle necks. Kingthrashgaming has exposed digital foundary many times. Microsoft created series s for a reason. So that this abysmal piece of hardware could become lowest common denominator for games and in process help series x in putting out better visuals and mask its short commings. Just search "Analysing digital foundary's control analysis kingthrashgaming" and see with ur very own eyes digital foundary lying about graphics on series x. Ps5 is a superior console with lots of unique customizations under its hood. For a console ps5 is a beast.
Still can't get over the "new" Peter... But DAMN this looks good!
They really shouldn't have done it. They had no reason to.
@@WH250398 they gave the reason... said it was to make it look more like the actor in the movie no? whats teh problem?
@@aaronclay4665 It still makes no sense. Insomniac's Spider-Man was supposed to be an older, more mature Spider-Man. He looks like a child now.
@@aaronclay4665 Why would we want it to look more like 'the actor in the movie'? Who cares about him? He's so irrelevant for this that you don't even know the guy's name.
@@WH250398 dude Peter is supposed to be 23 and that new actor is 24. The old peter looked like shit for a guy that's only 23
Top-quality video even by the high Digital Foundry standards. great job guys.
But Damn! I am going to be torn between the performance and fidelity mode🤔😁
I want a automatic switch mode while swinging/ fighting or walking
I’m glad that someone else noticed the duplicate frames before camera cuts. It bugged me in the prerelease material for Miles and it bugged me in the Ratchet and Clank extended gameplay footage that Sony posted a while ago. I wonder why this seems to affect Insomniac games specifically.
Now I would love a 60fps mode with raytracing, maybe in a medium setting. Would be interesting how much the dynamic resolution would have to drop... Including checkerboard or DLSS-type upscaling
3:38 "Subsurface Scattering" - Niko from Corridor has entered the chat.
LMAO I was literally thinking about Corridor, they taught me so much of my VFX knowledge and they explain subsurf to me best
"The pores stretch."
Looks like Sony has delivered everything I was hoping for on day one.
Phew!!
I was never in doubt 😉
4:28 Man that was impressive. It's extremely difficult to spot the straight edge of a polygon in one of those close-ups, yet oddly relieving.
Impressive. Most impressive. If only Avenger's got this treatment.
Lol graphics ain’t gone save that game
@@kingghxstgaming I mean yeah... but it’d look so much better while it goes down like the titanic.
Really clean, polished looking game! Outstanding work for a launch title
That looks absolutely incredible 🥶🥶🥶🥶
Honestly when first booting SpiderMan remastered up I was playing in the 30fps mode and I was surprised how they managed to make webslinging feel and look this good with the lower framerate. Truly, extremely impressive.
To me 30fps was more enjoyable than 60fps. 60 felt too plastic. 30 felt more lifelike and immersive, but i know a lot of people prefer 60fps.
Wow, launch game already looks extremely next-gen. We’re in for a great generation
Check the PS4 version. Looks mostly the same.
@@flyingplantwhale545 wdym the remastered looks good