PA system with subs - Bands and DJ's
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- This setup is perfect for those in bands or DJ's at events, parties or the gig at the pub.
I highly recommend an active system, as it is less outboard gear.
2 x 12" Speakers and either 2 x 15" or 2 x 18" subs will work really well together.
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With this setup, about how large of a crowd do you think it will cater for?
You might not want to test with your subwoofers right in the cancellation zone. They are probably close enough to the side wall but not the back wall.
Hi there using a PA system with subs added would it be loud enough for larger venues?
Subs are essential for larger venues, especially when lots of people are there. I find the Fatter sound does make it louder and you dont have to turn up the volume as loud
Hey Kyle,
Thanks for your comment.
For "Large Venues" subs are very much standard for a larger setup. In saying this, Subs are always good to have for any size venue. They free up your top/mid boxes to tackle the higher frequencies and the subs handle the lower frequencies (usually below 120hz but depends on your subs).
Hope this helps
make a video showing us the sub frequency and how to set it
I've found my subwoofers work better when they're right by the walls so that's why I use separate tripods. Well other than that my subwoofers weigh 35 lbs each being only a 12" so the top would probably fall over easily.
U have to change it from cardioid mode
I found it better to run 2 different lines from mixer or controller to powered speaker reason being when i plug in the tops into the subs the entire volume u drops its better u u jump the sub to sup n let the tops feed freely from da mixer
true.. I had a debate last night with a sound engineer. He rather use 8 subs each with a single line in.. I produced a deeper sound with 4 subs running the XLRs all parallel dual in and out.. The helpers heard the difference, but he didnt want to admit it..
@@Jeanuwine lol he will try it unknowingly to u 😂😂😂
Hi sir can I ask something which better subwoofer use for live band. Thanks.
Thanks for the video, how will you connect the speakers and subs through the snake board to the console
Great tutorial video, thanks for taking the time to make it!
Dr. Scary. You are more than welcome. Thanks for watching!
How to connect two jbl eon 518s subs that has two sets on input and output on one box because when i got left and right going to one it's loud but when left is on one sub and right on the other it's less bass.
Sir how not to blow up our twitter speakers, with that set up you have shown..?
In your opinion does spreading out the subs lessen their effect in an enclosed venue.?
Hello! How would I daisy chain two powered speakers using a basic mixer? Any help is appreciated! Thank you
DJ Kel Are you sure you want to daisy-chain them? Typically, you'd run a stereo setup with the L main output on your mixer going to your left speaker, and the R main output going to your right speaker.
Thank you for the response. I'll definitely take that into consideration.
As per what sweliam1 just mentioned, L main out to the left speaker and R main out to your Right.
Especially with the powered setup, connecting Subs than tops is probably the easiest way and neatest way to do this.
Sweliam1, why would you not daisy-chain them together?
DJ Kel You're very welcome.
Amplify This 200 Productions Doing so would most likely convert the rig into dual mono (since he would use only L main out or only R main out), which may not be particularly desirable if he's running a DJ setup. Fine for speech and smaller acoustic bands, as there is little to no stereo information, but prerecorded tracks have quiet a lot of stereo sounds, some even hard-panned.
We r a rock band and play in small venues with 2 LEM D-400 active tops, we'd like to add one sub to our system to get some more bass power, what would you suggest?
Hi mate. Cool no worries at all. I am not familiar with the LEM lineup of speakers but with some research I have come up with a few solutions for you which are over a few different price brackets.
Upper end of the market - Db Technologies Sub 18H - Stacks of bottom end, after hearing your bass frequencies through these you will definitely want to upgrade you tops. You will not regret the purchase on this sub.
www.dbtechnologies.com/en/products/sub-series/sub-18h-p1847.aspx
Mid-range - Look at your db Technologies Sub 05 D or the TurboSound Milan (which are being used in this video), Or Yamaha DXS series subs. Any of these subs will do wonders for your FOH with the band. They kick!
Entry Level - Behringer Eurolive B1800X, - This is a great sub, seriously got some punch and will work great with the speakers you have. This gear always surprises me, and it is cheap perfect for working musicians.
If you are located in Australia, let me know as we can assist with getting you a sub that works for you.
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Hi Keiran. Thanks for the tip. I'll look into it. Thanks for the suggestion much appreciated.
Thank you for this video. Answered my questions about the connections.
Thanks for this info..
Great tutorial
What speaker brand and model are you using? They sound great.
The Subs are Turbosound Milan M18B as I see from the video, and the tops are Behringer, but I can't see which ones, because he has removed the logos on them.
How do you connect from mixer with 1 sub and 2 main speakers?
MrKingworship on the most subs ther are two high pass out so just put two of them there.
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I usually do top speakers to sub what's the different between that sub to top or top to sub ??
Johny Lian , some subs have built in crossover, but is yours doesn't it is just a neater setup
As you don't have two signal cables running from top Box's.
I have a s9 with 2 mackie thump 15" and 2 yorkville 15" subs....i go from mixer to sub then sub to top? all xlr
You have it nailed DJ Rueed! Exactly that!
Jonathan Heath awesome...thx u
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good video
Thanks Alan. Greatly appreciated
Just a bit of feedback , top boxes should be higher . Someone of average height 5'6" or so should be able to see the bottom of top box at eye level .
Personal preference and depends how big the venue is. The lower the speakers then direct volume at the audiences ears so u dont have to turn it up as loud
Alastair, thanks for your feedback. For the purpose of the video, they are where they are. I usually have the bottom of my top/mid boxes above head height but depends on the venue and system being used.
@@amplifythis200productions4 agreed👍🏻
rcf, ev, db tecnologies the best
Since making this video we have now updated all our systems to dB Technologies! Absolutely love them. But ey, gotta start somewhere. Thanks for the comment
Do you need a mixer if you use Bluetooth
Depends what your bluetooth device is. If you are bluetoothing using inbuilt bluetooth with the speaker, than no, if you are using a bluetooth device like the Logitech receiver or something similar, than yes. But depends on your setup too.
is there a reason you wouldn't wanna couple the subwoofers?
I tend to keep them linked with the top boxes. I can't see why you would want to couple the subs unless you had 2 a side
hey mate, once you pair two subs together you gain the coupling effect, you gain 3dbs by doubling the power. 3 dbs for twice the surface area. 6 dbs in total when you double your subs in this maner. i guess Join the synergy was asking because of that. i prefer myself coupling the subs in the center and placing the tops in their own speaker stands, that works better for me. greeting from Valparaiso, Chile. and Good video mate!!
Carlos Rojas Acosta (& Join the Synergy) I just read this yesterday on another video. Thank you for the helpful tip.
this one has helped me with Active vs passive. I love active systems, I don't have to worry about all the jargon that comes with passive speaker systems.
Glad it helped. Thanks for the comment
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Audio is straight off the camera. This video is one of our first youtube videos. Thanks for the comment much appreciated
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Audio is straight off the camera. This video is one of our first youtube videos. Thanks for the comment much appreciated
Awesome video brother, I am currently in the process of building up my small PA system.This vídeo definitely answered a lot of my questions
Hi mate. Easy done. Glad I was able to answer the question you had. If you need any assistance feel free to get in contact with me. Cheers
Just perusing sub reviews who do I find! How ya goin' Jono mate!:0D Great video!!
Declan Zapala glad you enjoyed the video mate! I’ll send a pm to ya.
Would this be ideal also for a live sound event with live band, vocals, instruments and things like that? Going from the mixer L/R straight to the subs L/R than thru to the "top speakers" ? Because currently I have the xlr from the mixer going straight to the "top speakers L/R" than going "thru" to the subs....
Yes this is a great way to go. Most of the time Subs tend to have a built in cross-over so it takes the lower frequencies and than you can use the thru to your top box. Depending on your setup will depend if you can do it as I did in the video. Feel free to comment with more details of your setup and I am happy to check it out for you.
You’ve got some digital noise on there. Either need to turn off radio on phone or need a shielded cable to the device making the recording. No disrespect intended, thanks for video.
best test sound ever.....FAIL!!!
Thanks for your honesty. Test track was just randomly chosen, but hey, you can still hear the clarity instead of Doof Doof Doof Doof.
The test track was not the point of the video, it was a demonstration of the process to setup.
Thanks for watching.
i can hear feed back? whats that?
george parow hi mate. No it is just the rooms natural reverb through the mics which are where the main camera is.
Hi,I ask because I sometimes get feedback in (or from)the subs and its hard to pinpoint the source. That room noise is kind of similar.
george parow wow ok. What environment do you have it setup in when you hear the feedback (band with lots of mics or DJ?)
Thanks for the help :]
where do I get replacement volume knobs for jbl srx 815p?
Thanks so much bro for the video..this is one of the videos I have been looking for on TH-cam 👍👍 Really helpful
You are more than welcome. Thanks for the comment! Enjoy your gigging
Quick question man, how do the turbosound subs sound, I'm planning on buying a pair
Buried Deep , they are a nice sub, very punchy sound. I rate them.
Thanks man now time to empty my bank account
Hey, i see you run the Thru out from the Sub and into the top speaker. I normally do this the other way round. Does it make any difference ?
+Gavin Larsen, Thanks for the comment. Depends on your sub and speaker setup. Some active subs have a built in cross-over in them, so going Sub first than Top box is the way to go in that situation. The Subs input also just controls input that Sub takes, leaving the signal to the top speaker un-altered. Most top boxes, have a Mix Out on the back of them, so that can effect the signal going to the sub. (If your top box have a Thru not Mix Out that you will be ok)
in saying that I would recommend going Sub than Top Box because that means only 1 signal cable is going up to the top box, looks neater and more professional.
Hope this helps.
Hey, nice video. I want to ask, what music you was playing from your phone ?
Thanks for answer !
It was Tedeschi Trucks Band.
Would you say it is worth having subs with a band? Could I just use the top boxes and receive similar results? Or does the sub help boost the sound etc?
Hi Tobi. I would normally always recommend subs as that takes care of the lower frequencies and frees up your top boxes to handle all the Mid/High frequencies.
My question to you is how big is the venue?
How large is your audience?
What is your lineup....
If it is only 50people and in a small room you can probably get away with no subs. Just depends on what you are trying to achieve.
Hey really cool video, what I wanted to know is what do u plug into the dj controller to connect with the sub and the speaker
keiren T-R, Hi. It depends on what connector comes out of your controller and what connectors you have to your sub.
Typically DJ controllers have RCA out, than to plug into your speakers will need to go XLR or Jack. I always recommend XLR if that's what your speakers have, as you can easily extend it to reach your speakers or you can plug direct into a multicore for bigger stage gig.
Hope that helps.
where are you based??
Do i need a mixer? My pa speakers uses bluetooth.. will that be detected by the sub>?
Hi mate. What model of speakers do you have? You say your speakers have Bluetooth, what is your sound source? Laptop? iPad?
Rockville RPG8BT 8" Inch Powered 400W DJ PA Speaker BlueTooth. My sound source is my phone... using bluetooth. I connected the xlr cable but nothing would play off it
Hi mate. Cool no worries. By looking at the specs for the Rockville speaker, to connect to a sub, you will require to take the signal from the Line Out, from the photos online it was a jack out.
Now when connecting your phone, ensure they sync via bluetooth to the main speaker, You will need to link any additional speaker from the line out. If you are only linking 2 speakers together that is fine.
But if you want a reliable sound source I would get yourself a nice little mixing desk, connect L&R to your speakers via a cable and plug your phone directly in via the headphone jack. easy, simple, reliable audio.
Hope this helps
love how you debadged the top boxes haha
These where our first top boxes just to get the company started. I have always hated the Yellow Triangle, people would judge you before they heard your mix, hence debadged. I was able to pull a mix out of them and people where surprised what speakers they where. We are now using dB Technology LVX12.
Thanks for your comment Matt
You can get a surprisingly good sound out them in the right environment! You gotta start somewhere. And nice!
Thanks Matt! You are right through, you can get a good sound out of them, just need to work hard to achieve that sound. I honestly believe that I learn more how to pull a good sound on a cheaper system it has made it easier when I mix on a nice system. Cheers mate!
quick question so for this self powerd speakers, when you hook up they always go from subs to top box?
Los Betos D Sinaloa thanks for the question. I always do. Generally some models have a built in crossover which makes life easier. Another reason is to keep as little cable running to and from top box. Neater.
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ok one more question on my tops do I set them to the subwoofer mode to eliminate any bass going to them or just leave them as mains
What brand and model are your speakers? both Tops and Subs? If they are the same brand (and model range - for example Turbosound Milan Series), the built in crossover in the speakers have been designed to work together so selecting "sub" mode or frequency role off is the correct thing to do. If they are not part of the same range, find out what frequency your sub begins to work at, than crossover your top box from there.
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yes they are the same model...thank you for your help
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where can I get the speakers and the subs from . Also will I need a amplifier. because I have the ns6, will it work.
Hi mate.
Awesome questions. Where are you located too (city/town), and I can assist in directing you to the right place. What is the main use for your system? On average how many people will you be playing music too?
If you get Powered Speakers you will not need an amplifier as the amplifier is built into the speaker. This is perfect for DJ like yourself using NS6 and other DJ desks. Most mid range powered speakers have built in DSP to protect the speaker and to assist in getting that sound you want.
A great advantage about having the NS6 is that you have XLR Outputs, meaning that you can plug directly into the back of any powered speaker using XLR cables, eliminating the use of adaptors from RCA to XLR
I'm located in a city. The total amount of people is 300. I have two powered speaker the name is Behringer.
Also do you know where I can get a wireless microphone for the Ns6?
marcus tuloe No worries at all. I use Turbosound Milan Subs in video. I am based in Adelaide. Is you are in the area I can assist you with your setup if not unfortunately I can not make any recommendations if I don't know where you are located
As for wireless mics, AKG make great little portable systems that will work a treat.
Hope this helps.