we also have to realise that accepting the worst case scenario doesn’t make it any more likely to happen. just as not accepting it doesn’t make it LESS likely to happen
Yes, but you're still trying to prove to yourself it won't with that approach, in the first part. When we talked about accepting worse case scenario it's not about using that as another method to prove certainty. This is where MANY get it wrong.
"But if it does make it more likely to happen" Using Unconditional acceptance in this manor still tries to narrow in on certainty, which doesn't usually work for chronic cases.
The last 5 or 6 minutes of the video are so freakin valuable. The key to unlocking our OCD is right there. Listen and listen again (not compulsively). Beautiful, Rob, and thank you!
I’ve run into this video a few years after it was recorded but for me just at the right time! I have intense fear about having high blood pressure where I’m too scared to even take it, and any odd symptom I get my mind assumes it’s due to it. This is due to some high readings in the past due to anxiety. I was checked with 24 hour ambulatory monitoring a couple of years ago which showed good readings so my doctors are happy, however my anxious mind still isn’t. The core fear of that would be being paralysed from a stroke. I’m a very active person…fitness freak, adventurer, former soldier and now paramedic, so accepting that core fear is huge challenge
@@OCDRecovery I can’t get an accurate reading though as i panic when taking it, so the monitor registers the panic giving me high readings…which cycles round to more panic.
The thing is there is nothing to dispute because as soon as you dispute one topic it latches on to the next and so on. It’s just a waist of time you’re suggesting. It’s better to treat everything as garbage at once and face the feelings and anxiety rather than waist years on worst case scenarios as you’re suggesting and playing into disorders hand. What you’re wrong about is that it’s not about fears because everyone has pretty much similar fears but not everyone develops OCD. It’s about intolerance to uncertainty and discomfort of anxiety.
Just changed upon this video and it hit home .....I don't think anyone but an OCD sufferer can hit the nerve and make you take stock. I hit subscribe straight away.👍 Thanks Rob
how would you approach accepting the worst case scenario for the purpose of life and if I will ever find true purpose which in my mind equates to happiness. And this just latches to the idea that I will never find enjoyment out of anything. And coming to terms with this seems a bit more difficult than some of the other obsessions I have had. It's so odd because These thoughts only started occupying my brain since the beginning of this month. Would love some insight on this if possible :)
Thank you... I'm still struggling a lot though, whenever I try to accept that my worst case scenarios might happen, I keep thinking like "Okay to be honest I wish it doesn't, but if it actually happens..." then get a whole panic attack. Is this a type of a compulsion too? Trying to fight back meaningless thoughts?
Yes fighting the thoughts and engaging with them persistently can be compulsive and it's rumination. I would also say that "Okay to be honest I wish it doesn't" is not working on acceptance as you're desperately wishing it doesn't happen, and trying to convince yourself of it can also be self-reassuring. Try breaking it down like: okay what would happen if it comes true? List the things you think will happen. Take it step by step, build it from there.
Somatic ocd swallowing has me in a very dark place and suicidal plz I just don’t what to do I keep trying to go about my day but it’s implanted in my head I just can’t forget about it plz help man
Ok so I love u guys videos. My question is how do I get my self to accept that I can live this way forever without it being miserable and even if I do it's still misserable so doesn't that mean I'm still scared? Also can smoking cigs be a compulsive behavior and get in the way of my recovery? Thank u guys for the work u do
Firstly, yes smoking can be compulsive (Nick had that too), so maybe cutting down would be great. Secondly, yes that means you're still scared. Making peace with the possibility that even if you were to be unhappy forever, it doesn't stop you from living life the way you want to. We think that emotions are everything and they dictate what we can or cannot do but accepting that you can still live a life (even if a little uncomfortable) is key here
@@mominmasood this is a really interesting concept that i am struggling to understand. I understand accepting worst case scenarios but in regards to this overarching theme of happiness, which inevitably is what humans aspire to maintain and in my eyes the main goal of life. How do you come to terms with the possibility of never finding happiness or enjoyment again. Any specific practices or perspectives on this would be of great help :)
we also have to realise that accepting the worst case scenario doesn’t make it any more likely to happen. just as not accepting it doesn’t make it LESS likely to happen
Yes, but you're still trying to prove to yourself it won't with that approach, in the first part. When we talked about accepting worse case scenario it's not about using that as another method to prove certainty. This is where MANY get it wrong.
"But if it does make it more likely to happen" Using Unconditional acceptance in this manor still tries to narrow in on certainty, which doesn't usually work for chronic cases.
The last 5 or 6 minutes of the video are so freakin valuable. The key to unlocking our OCD is right there. Listen and listen again (not compulsively). Beautiful, Rob, and thank you!
"It's easier to run than face all this pain here all alone" -Linkin Park
This is a very important video for me as I've been going through this very cycle. Really appreciate the content of this one.
It’s very hard for me to get comfortable with worse case scenario thinking
God bless you for the work you’re doing.
Thank you so much for sharing, very important and helpful!
I’ve run into this video a few years after it was recorded but for me just at the right time! I have intense fear about having high blood pressure where I’m too scared to even take it, and any odd symptom I get my mind assumes it’s due to it. This is due to some high readings in the past due to anxiety. I was checked with 24 hour ambulatory monitoring a couple of years ago which showed good readings so my doctors are happy, however my anxious mind still isn’t. The core fear of that would be being paralysed from a stroke. I’m a very active person…fitness freak, adventurer, former soldier and now paramedic, so accepting that core fear is huge challenge
@@damo_1778 check your blood pressure
@@OCDRecovery I can’t get an accurate reading though as i panic when taking it, so the monitor registers the panic giving me high readings…which cycles round to more panic.
I am currently undergoing some therapy to reduce my fear response when taking my BP
The thing is there is nothing to dispute because as soon as you dispute one topic it latches on to the next and so on. It’s just a waist of time you’re suggesting. It’s better to treat everything as garbage at once and face the feelings and anxiety rather than waist years on worst case scenarios as you’re suggesting and playing into disorders hand. What you’re wrong about is that it’s not about fears because everyone has pretty much similar fears but not everyone develops OCD. It’s about intolerance to uncertainty and discomfort of anxiety.
Just changed upon this video and it hit home .....I don't think anyone but an OCD sufferer can hit the nerve and make you take stock.
I hit subscribe straight away.👍
Thanks Rob
Great explanation. Thank you for this Rob!
Thank you for this video!
Good message!
how would you approach accepting the worst case scenario for the purpose of life and if I will ever find true purpose which in my mind equates to happiness. And this just latches to the idea that I will never find enjoyment out of anything. And coming to terms with this seems a bit more difficult than some of the other obsessions I have had. It's so odd because These thoughts only started occupying my brain since the beginning of this month. Would love some insight on this if possible :)
Love you Rob💜🌟
Excellent
Thank you... I'm still struggling a lot though, whenever I try to accept that my worst case scenarios might happen, I keep thinking like "Okay to be honest I wish it doesn't, but if it actually happens..." then get a whole panic attack. Is this a type of a compulsion too? Trying to fight back meaningless thoughts?
Yes fighting the thoughts and engaging with them persistently can be compulsive and it's rumination. I would also say that "Okay to be honest I wish it doesn't" is not working on acceptance as you're desperately wishing it doesn't happen, and trying to convince yourself of it can also be self-reassuring. Try breaking it down like: okay what would happen if it comes true? List the things you think will happen. Take it step by step, build it from there.
Start with the first layer and accept that right now you can’t accept the worst case scenario but are working toward it
Somatic ocd swallowing has me in a very dark place and suicidal plz I just don’t what to do I keep trying to go about my day but it’s implanted in my head I just can’t forget about it plz help man
Go to the playlist section on this channel, Nick has done tons of videos on Somatic OCD/Sensorimotor OCD/Hyperawareness.
Wear it like an uncomfortable coat.
Ok so I love u guys videos. My question is how do I get my self to accept that I can live this way forever without it being miserable and even if I do it's still misserable so doesn't that mean I'm still scared? Also can smoking cigs be a compulsive behavior and get in the way of my recovery? Thank u guys for the work u do
Firstly, yes smoking can be compulsive (Nick had that too), so maybe cutting down would be great.
Secondly, yes that means you're still scared. Making peace with the possibility that even if you were to be unhappy forever, it doesn't stop you from living life the way you want to. We think that emotions are everything and they dictate what we can or cannot do but accepting that you can still live a life (even if a little uncomfortable) is key here
@@mominmasood this is a really interesting concept that i am struggling to understand. I understand accepting worst case scenarios but in regards to this overarching theme of happiness, which inevitably is what humans aspire to maintain and in my eyes the main goal of life. How do you come to terms with the possibility of never finding happiness or enjoyment again. Any specific practices or perspectives on this would be of great help :)
Hey Rob, did you read david hawkins,
His book was key for me and its exactly the same what youre are telling.... thats so interesting
Thank you for this video!