How To Recover From OCD & What Keeps People Stuck
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ธ.ค. 2020
- This video is probably one of the most important videos I have ever done! What is involved in recovery, why so few understand & what’s still keeping you stuck. #ocdrecovery #ocdawareness
Rob is so badass he does it all in one take! No edits. This man knows his shit and exactly how to articulate it.
rob you feel like a friend and a teacher that should of had all my life , thank you for all that u do. a real life saver
I’ve seen tons of videos about OCD and anxiety- nothing has been this in-depth or informative about recovery. Great video!
Thanks rob, I could relate to you. Please keep doing good job of educating people on ocd. Its hard to tame OCD but your help is very very life saver
So thankful for all of the work you put into this. Is has been a whole other ballgame to listen to someone that has actually struggled and has figured it out. Everything you say is something that I've thought, and you know exactly what paths the thought process takes due to OCD. Leaving the thoughts there doesn't work, and sadly most of us know that now. You give us so much hope.
My bad beliefs are so STRONG...
Very good you talk sense one of the best talks I've listen to
Brilliant Rob! Finish that book. :)
You’re videos changed my perspective on life, possibly saved my life. Thank you.
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Thank you! Incredible perspective about it, the only “real” one
What a brilliant way to describe it.
Thank you so much Robert!! I am practicing erp but also working through accepting my core fears.
love you rob🥰
Love the bath and burglar analogy! So true! 😂
Helpful
10/10 vid
Super talk
You referred to a "read list". What books do you recommend reading? What are the best books on ACT?
How to Stubbornly Refuse to Make Yourself Miserable About Anything - Albert Ellis
Hope and Help for the Nerves - Claire Weekes
The Myth of Self-Esteem - Albert Ellis
Man's Search for Meaning - Viktor Frankl
At Last a Life - Paul David
Meditations - Marcus Aurelius
Whats the best way to deal with pocd
Is it the same for pocd?
Hard to accept things in this theme.
Yes
Please could you explain more why analysing the origins of fears - things from the past e.g thru traditional psychotherapy - is useless in overcoming ocd. Are the irrational beliefs not tied to earlier internalised beliefs about ourselves? I do relate that past focus doesn’t relieve present anxiety, but i see a link also. I guess traditional psychotherapy models would say ‘resolve the past & feel better in the present’ & I know I haven’t found relief in this. Truly think I’ve made peace with quite a lot & yet my anxiety is bad as its ever been at 45. What are the key differences between your approach & psychotherapy? - I’d love to hear that spelled out more. Would be really helpful. Thanks Rob, you’re a ⭐️
Towards the end of the video I had a bit more of an insight. I think the past is where we came up with, learned & re-learned our irrational beliefs. That’s when it happened. A result of generations of irrational ways of viewing the world & the impact of generational trauma, & irrational cultural belief systems. But in the present, no amount of analysing the hows & whys of the past will resolve the beliefs, only new, replacement rational beliefs in the here & now. For me the past is relevant because looking at it can help us get to the point of REALISATION of why we have the irrational beliefs in he first place. For me. I get that the ocd response & (mal)function is very biological, primal & physiological (all about our hard wired threat response system) but for me & all I’ve learned about trauma (the complex, childhood, chronic type) is very much the genus of these brain developments. Books like The Boy Raised as a Dog, Bruce Perry (not a memoir type abuse story but full on trauma science/research) & The Body Keeps the Score, Besell van der Kolk lay all this out (amygdala is much bigger in brains of childhood trauma sufferers etc). But for me to the accepted recovery method for c-ptsd triggers & flashbacks which is very somatic based, the mantra is ‘story follows state’ - so aim is bring body back to regulation & brain /cognition will follow. Doesn’t work for me, can’t do it. Your advice has much more effect. Disputing the cognitive beliefs when I can do it does bring almost instant relief, albeit short term for me still. Sorry for long comment. Just trying to work all this out (not in an ocd compulsive way, more rationally I think). Thank you!! 🙏🙂
Your beliefs in the now are what contribute to the anxiety cycle.
Hey Amy! So traditional psychotherapy where you explore the past is helpful in giving you insights about how you behave and function, and why/how you've formed certain patterns. However, they usually only provide linkages formed in our mind, they do not deconstruct the perspectives we hold. For e.g, a person might find that he has anger problems because his father ridiculed him his entire life. Making that connection is helpful but not the solution as that person will then continue to blame the father for his anger problems, keeping him in that unhealthy cycle. This is where REBT comes in, where you are able to look at your unhealthy emotions rationally and not let them dictate your life.
@@mominmasood hi Momin & thanks so much for this. Sure you’re right. This perspective is relevant not just for ocd sufferers then but anyone stuck in patterns of unhealthy beliefs/patterns about the self, other or life in general. I think some psycho therapy approaches do ascribe to this & probably depends a lot on the individual therapist’s perspective. A friend of mine is an existential psychotherapist & she was the person who introduced me to victor frankl, man’s search for meaning, years ago as a Xmas present! A real gift in more ways than one 💝 thanks for sharing your thoughts x
@@OCDRecovery thank you for this. There’s so much out there that says the thoughts come after the inner alarm system has already been triggered, that we neurocept this often unconsciously or without realising it in a sensory way. Maybe this is part of it but the beliefs once they kick in are what perpetuates /fuels the anxiety cycle; maybe without the beliefs others might simply regulate themselves back to equilibrium without even noticing they’re doing it or just not react at all. Thank you for your comment :) x
Where can I find the recommended reading list?
The authors are Albert Ellis, Clare Weekes, Paul David, Marcus Aurelius...
How to Stubbornly Refuse to Make Yourself Miserable About Anything - Albert Ellis
Hope and Help for the Nerves - Claire Weekes
The Myth of Self-Esteem - Albert Ellis
Man's Search for Meaning - Viktor Frankl
At Last a Life - Paul David
Meditations - Marcus Aurelius
@@mominmasood thank you :)
How to sum up this video? What are the steps to recover?
Is it: to accept the anxiety then to run towards the irrational beliefs and then just dont give a damn about it at all? Dont fight ans let it be or exposure. Im confused
Rob i think we need your book asap hahhha
Me too; what are the steps?
Rob have you heard anything positive in regards to psychadelic use in recovery as a means to break those stuck thought cycles, allowing deeper insight, better world view of possibilities in life, etc. I seem to be on the cusp of recovery for a bout ive been dealing with involving real event false memories (now all I notice is pesky ruminating in the back of my mind and anxiety from that) I've used psychadelics before and they were always only major positives for me. I've seen some more research coming out about it just figured I'd ask your opinion.
I feel like psychicdellics would make OCD worse because we already Think too deep and too much. I feel like psychicdellics would just make you obsess even more.
@@sloanepetersen2243 thats where I'm concerned at lol, there are more and more studies showing it to be effective, I've had only positive experiences before on them however I've never been in this mental state. Half of me thinks its the thing I need to get me over this hump and the other part of me is scared of it locking even deeper. I just hate the idea of medication and the ones I've tried so far haven't done anything for me.