Id like to see Ras, Talia and the League of Assassins/Shadows very much fleahed out in the DCU as Ras and Batman have always had that fascinating bond, and Talia could be written as a more interesting tgree dimensional antagonist who wants to guide the LOA in new a direction better than her father, rather than a generic female villain, as her relationship with Bruce and Damian could be more explored. The entire DC Universe and thier roster of superpowered aand skilled assassins could really be explored ass we cpulld dive into different assassins and their different perspectives and characters lile Deathstroke, Lady Shiva, Deadshot, Cassandra Cain Batgirl (especially her with her mother being Shiva and her as Batgirl). I aldo would love to see Jason teased in the first film with suit on display and then sjow he's still alive in a post credit scene to then directly adapt Under The Red Hood storyline in the sequel.
@@fakehappyfilms Thanks, I'll check it out. Also, you have a lot of other pitch videos for DCU projects, which I'm interested to see. Ive got some of my ideas for a pitch for many DCU character films and projects. Ive even been working on pitching a hypothetical Green Lantern film saga if the Lanterns show is successful.
I like the idea of exploring more grounded villains in Reeve’s Batman like two face and scarecrow then we also get the more fantastical villains from Gunn through characters like poison ivy and clay face. Maybe we’ll even see a few of those characters on the big screen in the next few years 👀
I really do like that but I also hope maybe James puts in like characters like two face and penguin in the dcu but maybe just give them more comic accurate designs like give penguin the monoclonal and the long nose
I had a similar thought to this when I heard that Morrison's Batman is the bases for this movie. So I looked at the villains during that run and this is what I think. Talia Al Gul- Most definitely appearing in the movie. Ra's Al Gul- Likely to appear if Talia is there. Man Bat- Would be interesting to see him in a movie. Dr. Hurt- This is my personal pick for the villain of the movie. Joker- To Many Thing are using the Joker right now. Professor Pyg- Probably not as the main villain but maybe as a side villain. Red Hood- I feel like we may one day see him in a movie. The Flamingo- Probably not. Deathstroke- Maybe. Lord Death Man- I would love to see him in a movie he could be a fun villain to have. The Heretic- Would be too early to include him. Maybe for the sequel.
Clayface and Man-Bat are two of my favorite Batman villains. I’d love to see them in the DCU in some capacity, whether that’s an opening fight scene or side villain. Studios love to reuse old scripts that didn’t get to see the light of day so I could see Ben Affleck’s The Batman script being retooled to fit James Gunn’s vision. Everything I’ve read on it has said that Affleck wrote a hell of a script; Matt Reeves compared it to a Bond movie because of its sense of scale. Take out Batgirl for Damian and swap out Deathstroke for the Al’ Ghuls/League of Assassins and we’ll be cooking with fire. Although, I hope we see The Terminator come across Batman at some point because their fight scenes had the potential to be some of the best in comic book movie history
@@Sauxeaholic Man-Bat would be such a fun villain to see on the big scree; just imagine the aerial fight scenes. I’ve always imagined a movie opening with the skyline of Gotham at night, moon in the background watching over the city. We see a small bat figure in the moonlight but slowly it grows larger, revealing to be Man-Bat, and comes screeching into the screen. We cut to Batman in pursuit from the rooftops with either Alfred or Oracle on comms. A small fight ensues once Batman catches up but ultimately Man-Bat escapes. Alfred or Barbara calls in asking what happened and Bruce informs them making some sly comment like, “I guess some people were right. Gotham does have a bat problem.” We cut to the title card and we’re off to the races. I know it may sound cheesy or weak but I’d love to see something like this in a film
@@jamiebaseballin2 I’d love to see a fight similar to like Arkham knight where Batman has to catch him and like take him down like that would be crazy especially if then lean more towards horror
Let's face it, likely Ra's and Talia as the main villains. Maybe a post-credit of Jason getting resurrected which leads into a buffed out version of Under the Red Hood for the next movie
I get that, but Deathstroke being the main antagonist makes more sense to me, because even though Ra’s and Talia are both extremely good fighters, Deathstroke seems like more of a challenge for Batman to me and many others in terms of hand to hand combat
I think that Bane and Hugo Strange would be good starter villains for the DCEU because they’re still big names but not many people outside of the comic book fan base know who they are. Also Tobey Maguire as Condiment King,I don’t know how but I want him somewhere
Give me some mad hatter, he’s be a perfect b plot villain or even just the opening scene to set the stage for the type of world we’re going to see Batman and Damian in
Honestly, there are so many villains that have never been given the big screen treatment and really need it. - Azrael (A religious zealot out to impose his views on the world through terrorism) - Anarchy (An allegory for people that have lost faith in the system and want a revolution.) - Phantasm (A mirror to Batman's approach to crime.) - Hush (Moriarty to Batman's Holmes) - The Court of Owls (The rich in society working behind the scenes to control the poor) - Scarface and The Ventriloquist. (This should be done as a horror movie about a psycho killer who think his doll is telling him things.)
This is what I want to see from the movie. We could have Clayface in the opening, and Ra's and Deathstroke as villains with Talia playing a helpful side character role like in Son of Batman. We could have Damian learning to be Bruce's partner, and getting help from Dick and Tim to become Robin. All the while, Kirk Langstrom is being forced to create new super soldiers for the League of Assassins by Ra's, and is injected with the serum, becoming Man-Bat. There would be a battle throughout the skies of Gotham similar to Arkham Knight, which would lead to a storming of the League's facility, with Robin dueling Ra's and Batman fighting Deathstroke, with Batman and Robin going back to Gotham and being the new Batman and Robin. As far as sequels go, I want to see an epic version of Knightfall and Red Hood as the second and third movies. Bane being a villain would work well, and we could have several new scenes based around Bruce fighting his rogues throughout months, which have the following: Mr. Freeze and Firefly with their use of cryogenics and pyrotechnics would make quite an action scene. Killer Croc holding someone hostage in the sewers would be a great opportunity for horror. Joker, Harley Quinn, Mad Hatter, and Scarecrow working together to make a maze of madness would be very fun to watch. Penguin making arms deals, featuring possibly Deadshot and a nod to the Black Mask (who is in Red Hood) Poison Ivy holding hostages with her plants. Two-Face and Riddler creating an elaborate trap (much like Batman Forever). Bane would break Batman's back, which would lead to Dick taking over as Batman, and Damian as his Robin, with Azrael taking over from the shadows. Bruce would recover in 9 months, and the final fight would be between Bane, Azrael, and Batman, with Nightwing and Robin being on the side. Red Hood you can keep, but have Jason's time as Robin in flashbacks and keep Mr. Freeze, Deathstroke, and the Joker being in the story, as well as Black Mask and Ra's al Ghul. If you like this idea, let me know.
Sounds like too many villains for one movie, but since most of them are extremely well known from videogames, shows, movies, etc. I think they could make it work! Considering also some Avengers movies having even more characters than what you mentioned, and people being ok with that should transfer over to DC, otherwise it’d be hypocritical
Honestly, if the movie is gonna be about the Bat Family and Bruce trying to raise Damien, Red Hood seems like a perfect antagonist. Bruce is trying to raise his killer child while having to face the son he couldn't save; the son that grew up to be a killer. He has to face what he sees as his greatest failure as a parent and crime fighter. The story is RIGHT THERE.
This is my hopes too. If they really are having Bruce be Batman in this film, Nightwing should help a little if Red Hood is the antagonist. He can remind Bruce, just by being there, that he has and can succeed in raising a Robin. They can also go the route of Red Hood having his own kid side kick like the Grant Morrison run did with the kid Damian failed to protect from Mr. Pyg’s henchmen. I’d like to see other Batman rogues show up through the film. 1.) to set up Red Hood’s sidekick 2.) to give opportunity for Damian to make mistakes 3.) for Red Hood to manipulate the Rogues from the shadows, even if they don’t know he’s using them like pieces on a chess board
Having Deathstroke in The Brave and The Bold movie, might be too much like Son of Batman. If they were going to use him as an antagonist, it should be in a NightWing based film.
I want to see a realistic version of Mr.Freeze that will erase our minds of Batman and Robin. The other one that would be great would be the court of owls and tie it into Dick Graysons blood line.
@@neavetheartist more the Batman and the Nolan series I know he's a fictional character but to make it seem like it could be a real person with some form of deformities.
@@jacobmcleod5885 not in this universe maybe in the Batman universe with Robert but in the dcu this will be a Batman who is in the world with other heroes so they might do clay face or man bat and do more unrealistic stuff
I'm one of those pesky fans who think Deathstroke shouldn't be adapted as a Batman villain. Mostly because he was very successful as a Titans villain in the animated series, and also because I want him as a Nightwing villain.
I think of him as both a Teen Titans AND a Batman villain, and see no problem with him being used as a Batman villain, but I don’t think he should be the villain of this movie because that would make it feel like a rehash of Son of Batman.
I'd like to see Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn get their own live action show reminiscent of the Harley Quinn show but less manic and in live action. Given all of the bs queer people are going through it would be awesome to have a good chunk of rep, we could get Midnighter + Apollo, Harlivy, also Dreamer needs to be in this universe at some point or I will riot
The 4th '90s Batman movie was the only time we had live action supernatural villains in movies. Otherwise, Gotham and Batwoman were the only ones to do it.
I guarantee if Ben Affleck ends up directing it Deathstroke will have a part, he plays one in the Batman Vs Robin comic so it wouldn’t surprise me at all if that’s how he was introduced. Would love to to see Joe Manganiello get a full on shot at the role too tbh
I think he would be a great addition to the league of assasians but he should be the main villain of the rightwing movie in my opinion and just play a secondary villain role in The Brave and The Bold
For me I agree with your chose with both Ra's Al Ghul and Talia Al Ghul as main villains. Having either of them is such a bad idea cuz it's already done before in the Dark Knight trilogy. Two-Face can be an option for the side villain. I don't want Joker to be the main villain in the first trilogy cuz we already see Batman fought Joker numerous times already.
I think they should make a live action BTAS style series about DCU Batmans earlier years, how he met his villains for the fist time and also how he buildt the batfamily
Honestly, I feel like Ra’s Al Ghul’s the most likely. Most of the other options would be strange in a story about Damian becoming Robin, and Deathstroke would make it feel like a rehash of Son of Batman Still excited to see this one though. Despite how I like every live action Batman movie (save for Batman Begins), I never felt like any of them felt like the comic version. If this really does end up having a similar tone and style to Grant Morrison’s comics (my second-favorite Batman writer), then this could end up topping my three-way tie of favorite Batman movie by a longshot!
They could definitely adapt Under The Red Hood after the first Batman movie in the DCU, especially if they tease Jason being dead and thus foreshadow his return.
Batman Brave and the Bold(2026) Chapter One Batman Chapter 2:Revenge of the Red hood(2028) Chapter One Batman Chapter 3:The Court Of Owls(2033) Chapter Two
I definitely want to see Man Bat in the movie in a big role. I wouldn’t mind if he’s not the main villain but as long as he’s a second main villain I’ll be happy. I just love Man Bat after BTAS and Arkham Knight. He has so much potential for a main villain and if I make a Batman script he’ll be the main villain along with Clayface as a secondary villain. I want to see Deathstroke in a Teen Titans movie, a Nightwing movie or show and a solo Deathstroke show. I would prefer to see a Red Hood and The Outlaws show instead of adapting Under The Red Hood because the animated movie perfected it and it is my favourite Batman movie. I don’t think you can top it. I would like to see Ra’s and Talia properly adapted. The Dark Knight trilogy is quite good but it absolutely butchered the characters. I want to see them be properly super powered, use the Lazarus Pit and be Asian.
The main thing I wanna see with Batman movie villains is The Batman movies having more realistic villains/ones that can fit the world we saw in the first like The Batman Part 2 having Mr. Freeze and The Batman Part 3 (which I hope does happen) having Two Face who was set up in the second while the DCU Batman movies go with the more out there villains like Ra’s Al Ghul with the Lazarus Pit and Bane with the venom and sharing some for side villains like Joker, Mr. Freeze, and Riddler (I just really hope Joker isn’t a main villain in one of these movies, I really think we should get a break from Joker as a main villain and give the spotlight to other villains that are constantly overshadowed by him)
Dude, Talia & Ra's won't be the main villains, they might appear, especially Talia since she's the one who brought Damian to Bruce but as main villains: 1. They aren't exciting enough, 2. They have been done before. Man-Bat makes way more sense.
Clayface is bloody kain villain material!!! Seriously where the fuck do you get off saying something like that!!@ Clayface has more than proven he is main villain material in stories like mudpack and the feat of clay episodes from TAS. In the film, he could start out as a disfigured actor, turned assassin for hire, who is a master of disguise. He is hired to kill Bruce Wayne, but confront Bats instead. During one fight, he falls into a at of chemicals and this slowly mutates him into Clayface. The climax sees Batman defeat a CLAYFACE. That would be awesome. OK. Perhaps he couldn't be the main villain in the first film, but a secondary antagonist. After that, he can be the main villain in the sequel but the idea of Clayface not being "main villain material " if bloody absurd and frankly it shows your ignorance as a batnan fan
The worst thing they could do is start off these films by trying to avoid doing what previous films have done with the characters. Gunn has hinted as such as well. They’re focus is story telling, and not so much avoiding what Reeves is doing, or what Nolan/Snyder have done. If they did that they’d be in a very tight corner
I'd like Black Glove as the Villian with Killer Croc and Man Bat as Sude Villians. We could get Zur-en-Arrh as The Internal Struggle with Batman, with damian Helping him.
This first bat movie will fs have the league as the villains, its just kinda obvious if we are getting Damien being dropped off at bruces door, i would love to see mrs. Freaze as the second movie main villain, the first movie we get a cold hearted assassin's and than the second film we get a synthetic heart pulling villain, and than the 3rd we get joker prob😂
Jeremy Allen White should play Red Hood, watching him on shamless and bear i can already picture it, the amout of rage and emotion hes able to bring to his roles, and he'd be able to pull of the disappointed son in his father cuz hes literally already played that in shamless
I don't think the villain has to be connected to the League of Assassins. the movie could be about Bruce and Damian struggling to get along and the villain could contrast that
I don't think Red Hood should be in this movie. Jason should be currently dead and briefly mentioned but this movie is about introducing Damian so they shouldn't also have the other Robin connected to the League and who kills and save him for a sequel
Personally I think an adaptation of hush would work (comic, not animated riddler version) since that storyline involves a lot of different rogues and other batfamily and dc heroes, it would be a great introduction into the batman universe. Tie it into damian and the league somehow and it can fit nicely
Hey Black I've been watching the channel for a little bit now ever since you made a video about how you would fix the DCEU but.... I was hoping to hear your thoughts or maybe a video of who you think going to be the main villain of Chapter One when they eventually make the Justice League movie
I think jason should be dead, then used in the post credits scene by Ra's and Talia, they should throw him in the pit and set it up as Jason being sent after Bruce as a soldier for the league
I am waiting for manbat to be in a Batman movie. I think the Batman movies an have him and make him real as a scientist in a real looking flying manbat tech costume.
There is another villain related to ra's and talia that isn't that popular but still worth mentioning and that's ra's daughter and talia's sister, nyssa al ghul
@Havok Unbound I feel like they COULD make that work if they made it a side effect of the Lazarus Pit resurrecting someone after they already died, but I still think that there are better choices for a live-action Red Hood than Jensen Ackles (honestly, I don’t think he was even as good in the animated movies as people say he was.)
Ra's Al Ghoul and Talia for Brave and the Bold, then Red Hood for sequal movie teased in post-credit scene and Deathstroke as the final DCU Batman movie villain
I wouldn’t mind seeing killer croc as the villain or like man bat or clay face if u wanna go the big monster route or if not two face or death stroke would be great but jus no joker I love him but we gotta do sum different
I'm thinking about some smaller scale villain. Ofcourse Talia (and hopefully Ras) will appear in the movie, but I would like to see them build up to Ras and the League of assassins by first having Batman and Robin come together fighting some other threat in Gotham. Emotionally Ras and Talia would make the most sense tho. I just hope they don't do Joker yet
honestly clayface could work as a main villain. He's shapeshifter, with ability to drown people in his body, one of his versions is/was talented actor and one (maybe the same one) was killed by mob, bydrowning him in some industrial waste, so I'd say, that man, who can be anyone, with actual superpowers, that can get him almost anywhere and with personal vendetta against bad people could create interesting antihero/symparthetic villain story.
They should make the Batman Brave and The Bold trilogy like this Batman Brave and The Bold Batman Hush original Comic storyline Batman Under The Red Hood original comic storyline
I don’t really follow your logic at all just because at this time of there’s nothing that suggests that Talia or the league of shadows are in the movie in any capacity, he could just have been the robin for like a year already who knows, we know zero details.
A quick wiki search of Karlo’s/Clayface’s backstory as a failed actor turned mutated villain would prove that they character is anything but shallow. They could do a lot with the character in either the DCU/Elseworld universe, but he’d a huge problem for Batman in the DCU specifically since they can lean into his mutation and abilities more
If red hood isn't already a hero by this movie than he will probably be the villian of the second movie. I feel it will be either a villian that hasn't been a main villian a previous movie
Deathstroke is awesome, but there are so many Batman villains that need screentime before including him as the main antagonist. He is kind of like Darkseid in the sense he is a DC Universe villain at this point as opposed to heing confined to a rogues gallery, but he would be classified as Teen Titans villain maybe Nightwing solo rogues before Batman. It is mainly the Arkham game that has implanted this idea as Deathstroke being an arch foe of Batman in the average audience members head.
I’m hoping they build to ras al gaul over 3 movies all revolving about wether Damian will be a killer or not, red hood should definitely be the villain of the sequel convincing Damian that Batman is wrong, villain one should be someone you feel sorry for like man bat or mr freeze so we are invested in batman saving them from damian
bryan seeker when he was fancasting an older batman trilogy laid out the path that the first movie would introduce damian and be a bit more simple, the second would be very complex being a live action under the red hood adaptation and the 3rd would be a Hush movie but since hush will probably be the villain of the batman triolgy you could do the court of owls
they didn’t say if this was an origin story of damien. personally i think they’ll do this (and being my preference) and have damien already be established imo.
I really hope they introduce a comic accurate League of Assasins and Ra's with a Lazarus pit so it can be used in the future to resurrect Jason
Id like to see Ras, Talia and the League of Assassins/Shadows very much fleahed out in the DCU as Ras and Batman have always had that fascinating bond, and Talia could be written as a more interesting tgree dimensional antagonist who wants to guide the LOA in new a direction better than her father, rather than a generic female villain, as her relationship with Bruce and Damian could be more explored.
The entire DC Universe and thier roster of superpowered aand skilled assassins could really be explored ass we cpulld dive into different assassins and their different perspectives and characters lile Deathstroke, Lady Shiva, Deadshot, Cassandra Cain Batgirl (especially her with her mother being Shiva and her as Batgirl).
I aldo would love to see Jason teased in the first film with suit on display and then sjow he's still alive in a post credit scene to then directly adapt Under The Red Hood storyline in the sequel.
Kobra cult, Hugo Strange or Karl Helfern Doctor Death.
Watch the pitch video I just made. I’m using The league of assassins with Ra’s Al Ghul and Deathstroke 🔥
@@fakehappyfilms Thanks, I'll check it out. Also, you have a lot of other pitch videos for DCU projects, which I'm interested to see. Ive got some of my ideas for a pitch for many DCU character films and projects. Ive even been working on pitching a hypothetical Green Lantern film saga if the Lanterns show is successful.
@@milkiassamuel780 that’s awesome! You should totally go for it
I would really like to see either Ra’s Al Ghul or Red Hood, I think those two would make the most sense to pair with Damian
I say save red hood for the second one and allude to Batman having past robins and one is even “dead”
Make it a plot by the league/Jason to kill Bruce that Damien was partially in on but not revealed until the end
I like the idea of exploring more grounded villains in Reeve’s Batman like two face and scarecrow then we also get the more fantastical villains from Gunn through characters like poison ivy and clay face. Maybe we’ll even see a few of those characters on the big screen in the next few years 👀
I really do like that but I also hope maybe James puts in like characters like two face and penguin in the dcu but maybe just give them more comic accurate designs like give penguin the monoclonal and the long nose
But I will also add I hope they at least mention like villains from matt reeves universe but don’t appear u til after matt is done with his trilogy
I had a similar thought to this when I heard that Morrison's Batman is the bases for this movie. So I looked at the villains during that run and this is what I think.
Talia Al Gul- Most definitely appearing in the movie.
Ra's Al Gul- Likely to appear if Talia is there.
Man Bat- Would be interesting to see him in a movie.
Dr. Hurt- This is my personal pick for the villain of the movie.
Joker- To Many Thing are using the Joker right now.
Professor Pyg- Probably not as the main villain but maybe as a side villain.
Red Hood- I feel like we may one day see him in a movie.
The Flamingo- Probably not.
Deathstroke- Maybe.
Lord Death Man- I would love to see him in a movie he could be a fun villain to have.
The Heretic- Would be too early to include him. Maybe for the sequel.
Clayface and Man-Bat are two of my favorite Batman villains. I’d love to see them in the DCU in some capacity, whether that’s an opening fight scene or side villain. Studios love to reuse old scripts that didn’t get to see the light of day so I could see Ben Affleck’s The Batman script being retooled to fit James Gunn’s vision. Everything I’ve read on it has said that Affleck wrote a hell of a script; Matt Reeves compared it to a Bond movie because of its sense of scale. Take out Batgirl for Damian and swap out Deathstroke for the Al’ Ghuls/League of Assassins and we’ll be cooking with fire. Although, I hope we see The Terminator come across Batman at some point because their fight scenes had the potential to be some of the best in comic book movie history
I would kill for a live action man bat cause even if man bat isn’t the main villian having man bat as a side villian would be nice
@@Sauxeaholic Man-Bat would be such a fun villain to see on the big scree; just imagine the aerial fight scenes. I’ve always imagined a movie opening with the skyline of Gotham at night, moon in the background watching over the city. We see a small bat figure in the moonlight but slowly it grows larger, revealing to be Man-Bat, and comes screeching into the screen. We cut to Batman in pursuit from the rooftops with either Alfred or Oracle on comms. A small fight ensues once Batman catches up but ultimately Man-Bat escapes. Alfred or Barbara calls in asking what happened and Bruce informs them making some sly comment like, “I guess some people were right. Gotham does have a bat problem.” We cut to the title card and we’re off to the races. I know it may sound cheesy or weak but I’d love to see something like this in a film
@@jamiebaseballin2 doesn’t sound cheesy at all it would be amazing to see
@@jamiebaseballin2 I’d love to see a fight similar to like Arkham knight where Batman has to catch him and like take him down like that would be crazy especially if then lean more towards horror
@@jamiebaseballin2 but ever since Lego batman I’ve always thought like a live action man bat would be dope to see
Let's face it, likely Ra's and Talia as the main villains. Maybe a post-credit of Jason getting resurrected which leads into a buffed out version of Under the Red Hood for the next movie
I get that, but Deathstroke being the main antagonist makes more sense to me, because even though Ra’s and Talia are both extremely good fighters, Deathstroke seems like more of a challenge for Batman to me and many others in terms of hand to hand combat
I think that Bane and Hugo Strange would be good starter villains for the DCEU because they’re still big names but not many people outside of the comic book fan base know who they are. Also Tobey Maguire as Condiment King,I don’t know how but I want him somewhere
I’d like Tobey to voice animated condiment king, if it was live action, I hope that doesn’t happen
I reckon a god many people know Bane, but i'd love him to be the villain
@@NoBatteriesLOL But bro
“I’m gonna put some Ketchup in your eye”
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@@wadegittleson1317 Poison Ivy would work in too
Red Hood Or Joker Imo
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Imo Deathstroke will be better, cause he has heavy connection with league of assassins and is worthy enemy for older Batman
@@jormungandr8704 Deathstroke is a close second.
@@jormungandr8704 he has no ties to Ra’s at all
@@jormungandr8704He isn’t a Batman villain though.
I think it could be Ra’s or the League of Assassins because we know Damien’s in it
How many bizzare and obscure D-List Batman villains do you think James Gunn will bring up?
All of them
Give me some mad hatter, he’s be a perfect b plot villain or even just the opening scene to set the stage for the type of world we’re going to see Batman and Damian in
Condiment King or bust
Honestly, there are so many villains that have never been given the big screen treatment and really need it.
- Azrael (A religious zealot out to impose his views on the world through terrorism)
- Anarchy (An allegory for people that have lost faith in the system and want a revolution.)
- Phantasm (A mirror to Batman's approach to crime.)
- Hush (Moriarty to Batman's Holmes)
- The Court of Owls (The rich in society working behind the scenes to control the poor)
- Scarface and The Ventriloquist. (This should be done as a horror movie about a psycho killer who think his doll is telling him things.)
This is what I want to see from the movie.
We could have Clayface in the opening, and Ra's and Deathstroke as villains with Talia playing a helpful side character role like in Son of Batman. We could have Damian learning to be Bruce's partner, and getting help from Dick and Tim to become Robin. All the while, Kirk Langstrom is being forced to create new super soldiers for the League of Assassins by Ra's, and is injected with the serum, becoming Man-Bat. There would be a battle throughout the skies of Gotham similar to Arkham Knight, which would lead to a storming of the League's facility, with Robin dueling Ra's and Batman fighting Deathstroke, with Batman and Robin going back to Gotham and being the new Batman and Robin.
As far as sequels go, I want to see an epic version of Knightfall and Red Hood as the second and third movies.
Bane being a villain would work well, and we could have several new scenes based around Bruce fighting his rogues throughout months, which have the following:
Mr. Freeze and Firefly with their use of cryogenics and pyrotechnics would make quite an action scene.
Killer Croc holding someone hostage in the sewers would be a great opportunity for horror.
Joker, Harley Quinn, Mad Hatter, and Scarecrow working together to make a maze of madness would be very fun to watch.
Penguin making arms deals, featuring possibly Deadshot and a nod to the Black Mask (who is in Red Hood)
Poison Ivy holding hostages with her plants.
Two-Face and Riddler creating an elaborate trap (much like Batman Forever).
Bane would break Batman's back, which would lead to Dick taking over as Batman, and Damian as his Robin, with Azrael taking over from the shadows. Bruce would recover in 9 months, and the final fight would be between Bane, Azrael, and Batman, with Nightwing and Robin being on the side.
Red Hood you can keep, but have Jason's time as Robin in flashbacks and keep Mr. Freeze, Deathstroke, and the Joker being in the story, as well as Black Mask and Ra's al Ghul.
If you like this idea, let me know.
Sounds like too many villains for one movie, but since most of them are extremely well known from videogames, shows, movies, etc. I think they could make it work! Considering also some Avengers movies having even more characters than what you mentioned, and people being ok with that should transfer over to DC, otherwise it’d be hypocritical
@@NoBatteriesLOL It will work.
Honestly, if the movie is gonna be about the Bat Family and Bruce trying to raise Damien, Red Hood seems like a perfect antagonist. Bruce is trying to raise his killer child while having to face the son he couldn't save; the son that grew up to be a killer. He has to face what he sees as his greatest failure as a parent and crime fighter. The story is RIGHT THERE.
This is my hopes too. If they really are having Bruce be Batman in this film, Nightwing should help a little if Red Hood is the antagonist.
He can remind Bruce, just by being there, that he has and can succeed in raising a Robin. They can also go the route of Red Hood having his own kid side kick like the Grant Morrison run did with the kid Damian failed to protect from Mr. Pyg’s henchmen.
I’d like to see other Batman rogues show up through the film.
1.) to set up Red Hood’s sidekick
2.) to give opportunity for Damian to make mistakes
3.) for Red Hood to manipulate the Rogues from the shadows, even if they don’t know he’s using them like pieces on a chess board
Damian Wayne will be difficult to cast
Having Deathstroke in The Brave and The Bold movie, might be too much like Son of Batman. If they were going to use him as an antagonist, it should be in a NightWing based film.
I want to see a realistic version of Mr.Freeze that will erase our minds of Batman and Robin. The other one that would be great would be the court of owls and tie it into Dick Graysons blood line.
What type of realistic?
@@neavetheartist more the Batman and the Nolan series I know he's a fictional character but to make it seem like it could be a real person with some form of deformities.
@@jacobmcleod5885 no
@@jacobmcleod5885 not in this universe maybe in the Batman universe with Robert but in the dcu this will be a Batman who is in the world with other heroes so they might do clay face or man bat and do more unrealistic stuff
I'm one of those pesky fans who think Deathstroke shouldn't be adapted as a Batman villain.
Mostly because he was very successful as a Titans villain in the animated series, and also because I want him as a Nightwing villain.
I think of him as both a Teen Titans AND a Batman villain, and see no problem with him being used as a Batman villain, but I don’t think he should be the villain of this movie because that would make it feel like a rehash of Son of Batman.
I'd like to see Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn get their own live action show reminiscent of the Harley Quinn show but less manic and in live action. Given all of the bs queer people are going through it would be awesome to have a good chunk of rep, we could get Midnighter + Apollo, Harlivy, also Dreamer needs to be in this universe at some point or I will riot
I think a great way to separate this film from The Batman would be to make Dick Batman
I'm hoping for Court of Owls and Mr. Freeze in the Batman part II and League of Assassins and Man-bat in Brave and the Bold
Deathstroke is a TITANS ‘s villain.
The 4th '90s Batman movie was the only time we had live action supernatural villains in movies. Otherwise, Gotham and Batwoman were the only ones to do it.
I guarantee if Ben Affleck ends up directing it Deathstroke will have a part, he plays one in the Batman Vs Robin comic so it wouldn’t surprise me at all if that’s how he was introduced. Would love to to see Joe Manganiello get a full on shot at the role too tbh
I think he would be a great addition to the league of assasians but he should be the main villain of the rightwing movie in my opinion and just play a secondary villain role in The Brave and The Bold
I don’t see how man bat is main villain material but clayface isn’t.
What villains you put for the gratis of the New dcu i Washington thinking of brainiac or maybe some villain of the lanterns
Great video! Will you be making a video on your prediction for the DCU Wonder Woman?
For me I agree with your chose with both Ra's Al Ghul and Talia Al Ghul as main villains. Having either of them is such a bad idea cuz it's already done before in the Dark Knight trilogy. Two-Face can be an option for the side villain. I don't want Joker to be the main villain in the first trilogy cuz we already see Batman fought Joker numerous times already.
I think they should make a live action BTAS style series about DCU Batmans earlier years, how he met his villains for the fist time and also how he buildt the batfamily
The Brave and the Bold cartoon brings up lesser known heroes just like James Gunn; is he taking cues from that?
Yup , he is
I thought he said he was taking cues from Grant Morrison’s run?
i think it’s definitely gonna be a comic book accurate version of the league
Scarecrow would be a cool horror
If they actually get him right. He’s surprisingly difficult to utilize properly….
@@gechoman44iwantahippo They did him right in the arkham games
@@wiljamvandijk152 I meant in live-action
Honestly, I feel like Ra’s Al Ghul’s the most likely. Most of the other options would be strange in a story about Damian becoming Robin, and Deathstroke would make it feel like a rehash of Son of Batman
Still excited to see this one though. Despite how I like every live action Batman movie (save for Batman Begins), I never felt like any of them felt like the comic version. If this really does end up having a similar tone and style to Grant Morrison’s comics (my second-favorite Batman writer), then this could end up topping my three-way tie of favorite Batman movie by a longshot!
I think I speak for everyone when I say willem dafoe should be the DCU joker.
Red hood vs batman
They could definitely adapt Under The Red Hood after the first Batman movie in the DCU, especially if they tease Jason being dead and thus foreshadow his return.
Batman Brave and the Bold(2026) Chapter One
Batman Chapter 2:Revenge of the Red hood(2028) Chapter One
Batman Chapter 3:The Court Of Owls(2033) Chapter Two
I definitely want to see Man Bat in the movie in a big role. I wouldn’t mind if he’s not the main villain but as long as he’s a second main villain I’ll be happy. I just love Man Bat after BTAS and Arkham Knight. He has so much potential for a main villain and if I make a Batman script he’ll be the main villain along with Clayface as a secondary villain.
I want to see Deathstroke in a Teen Titans movie, a Nightwing movie or show and a solo Deathstroke show.
I would prefer to see a Red Hood and The Outlaws show instead of adapting Under The Red Hood because the animated movie perfected it and it is my favourite Batman movie. I don’t think you can top it.
I would like to see Ra’s and Talia properly adapted. The Dark Knight trilogy is quite good but it absolutely butchered the characters. I want to see them be properly super powered, use the Lazarus Pit and be Asian.
The main thing I wanna see with Batman movie villains is The Batman movies having more realistic villains/ones that can fit the world we saw in the first like The Batman Part 2 having Mr. Freeze and The Batman Part 3 (which I hope does happen) having Two Face who was set up in the second while the DCU Batman movies go with the more out there villains like Ra’s Al Ghul with the Lazarus Pit and Bane with the venom and sharing some for side villains like Joker, Mr. Freeze, and Riddler (I just really hope Joker isn’t a main villain in one of these movies, I really think we should get a break from Joker as a main villain and give the spotlight to other villains that are constantly overshadowed by him)
Dude, Talia & Ra's won't be the main villains, they might appear, especially Talia since she's the one who brought Damian to Bruce but as main villains: 1. They aren't exciting enough, 2. They have been done before. Man-Bat makes way more sense.
I mean since deathstroke isn't really a batman villain or in Morrsion's run, he shouldn't be included in this video.
Exactly! Save Deathstroke for Teen Titans live action movie.
Deathstroke was a villain in Morrison's batman. He went after Damian and Dick
Clayface is bloody kain villain material!!! Seriously where the fuck do you get off saying something like that!!@ Clayface has more than proven he is main villain material in stories like mudpack and the feat of clay episodes from TAS.
In the film, he could start out as a disfigured actor, turned assassin for hire, who is a master of disguise. He is hired to kill Bruce Wayne, but confront Bats instead. During one fight, he falls into a at of chemicals and this slowly mutates him into Clayface. The climax sees Batman defeat a CLAYFACE. That would be awesome.
OK. Perhaps he couldn't be the main villain in the first film, but a secondary antagonist. After that, he can be the main villain in the sequel but the idea of Clayface not being "main villain material " if bloody absurd and frankly it shows your ignorance as a batnan fan
personally i would hint at the joker beeing there/ hint at his coming up but when he shows up would be like 3 movies into the franchise
Deathstroke is a Nightwing villain he should be saved for Nightwing
The worst thing they could do is start off these films by trying to avoid doing what previous films have done with the characters. Gunn has hinted as such as well. They’re focus is story telling, and not so much avoiding what Reeves is doing, or what Nolan/Snyder have done. If they did that they’d be in a very tight corner
I'd like Black Glove as the Villian with Killer Croc and Man Bat as Sude Villians. We could get Zur-en-Arrh as The Internal Struggle with Batman, with damian Helping him.
Yeah I think Mr. Freeze is my number 1, so much so I made a bunch of concept art for him lol.
This first bat movie will fs have the league as the villains, its just kinda obvious if we are getting Damien being dropped off at bruces door, i would love to see mrs. Freaze as the second movie main villain, the first movie we get a cold hearted assassin's and than the second film we get a synthetic heart pulling villain, and than the 3rd we get joker prob😂
since the movie is named brave and the bold maybe we will get charackters from that comic run
Deathstroke was one of the main antagonists for DamianRobin and Dickbats in Morrison's Batman and Robin. The story Gunn is adapting
I feel Red Hood would be the underlying villain of the story.
Jeremy Allen White should play Red Hood, watching him on shamless and bear i can already picture it, the amout of rage and emotion hes able to bring to his roles, and he'd be able to pull of the disappointed son in his father cuz hes literally already played that in shamless
I don't think the villain has to be connected to the League of Assassins. the movie could be about Bruce and Damian struggling to get along and the villain could contrast that
Fingers crossed for both Ra’s and deathstroke
Did anybody else notice Very Nice Very Evil Danhausen?
I don't think Red Hood should be in this movie. Jason should be currently dead and briefly mentioned but this movie is about introducing Damian so they shouldn't also have the other Robin connected to the League and who kills and save him for a sequel
Personally I think an adaptation of hush would work (comic, not animated riddler version) since that storyline involves a lot of different rogues and other batfamily and dc heroes, it would be a great introduction into the batman universe. Tie it into damian and the league somehow and it can fit nicely
Hey Black I've been watching the channel for a little bit now ever since you made a video about how you would fix the DCEU but....
I was hoping to hear your thoughts or maybe a video of who you think going to be the main villain of Chapter One when they eventually make the Justice League movie
I think jason should be dead, then used in the post credits scene by Ra's and Talia, they should throw him in the pit and set it up as Jason being sent after Bruce as a soldier for the league
Todos dicen que deathstroke pero yo creo que gunn lo volverá más un antiheroe que un villano en el dcu
Same
Man it would be wild if it's The Phantasm but my gut tells me it's going to be The League Of Shadows and Ra's Al Ghul
As long as DC does Damian's story arc right and not make him just a bloodthirsty killer like his introduction in the comics did
Maybe have Damian be recruited by Red hood?
Damian views Red Hood as a joke so that idea would never work
as its not a rewritten year 1 we will probably have every robbin up do tim drake
I feel like ra’s al ghul has to big the main villain with smaller villains like firefly and deathstroke helping him
I'd never even considered Jason Todd as the movies villain, but now that you've brought it up it would actually go so hard.
I just hope isnt Joker, and i hope that they dont make Talia and Bruce a r**e case.
I think mr.freeze should be saved for a sequel to this film but he might appear in the Reeves verse
A red hood post credit scene could be cool
I am waiting for manbat to be in a Batman movie. I think the Batman movies an have him and make him real as a scientist in a real looking flying manbat tech costume.
There is another villain related to ra's and talia that isn't that popular but still worth mentioning and that's ra's daughter and talia's sister, nyssa al ghul
honestly i think the joker will be the best first villian ever
Hopfully someone's we havnt seen on film yet. I wanna see more new villains.
Imagine if Jensen Ackles returns as red hood just saying
A middle aged red hood? Hell no
@@HavokUnbound he could make it work
@@michaelmyers3912 At this point in his career, he'd be a better Batman.
@Havok Unbound I feel like they COULD make that work if they made it a side effect of the Lazarus Pit resurrecting someone after they already died, but I still think that there are better choices for a live-action Red Hood than Jensen Ackles (honestly, I don’t think he was even as good in the animated movies as people say he was.)
But he was the first to voice red hood and you know how marvel and dc are being back past actors for nostalgia purposes
I think It'll be deathstroke
we don't need the joker yet
If its joker, imma throw a fit
I absolutely want to see Ghost-Maker as the villain in a live action Batman movie.
great vilain yes
As soon as I saw that the film would star Damian I immediately thought "Oh, Ra's Al Ghul is going to be the main antagonist... that's cool"
This 5 villians in brave and the bold movie
Joker
Ra's al gual
Bane
Deathstroke
Hugo strange
Ra's Al Ghoul and Talia for Brave and the Bold, then Red Hood for sequal movie teased in post-credit scene and Deathstroke as the final DCU Batman movie villain
Snyder verse Fans duh
i will be the main villian
I wouldn’t mind seeing killer croc as the villain or like man bat or clay face if u wanna go the big monster route or if not two face or death stroke would be great but jus no joker I love him but we gotta do sum different
Praying for Red Hood🙏🏾🙏🏾
Clay Face maybe a villain in the Robert Pattinson Batman sequel.
I'm thinking about some smaller scale villain. Ofcourse Talia (and hopefully Ras) will appear in the movie, but I would like to see them build up to Ras and the League of assassins by first having Batman and Robin come together fighting some other threat in Gotham. Emotionally Ras and Talia would make the most sense tho. I just hope they don't do Joker yet
honestly clayface could work as a main villain. He's shapeshifter, with ability to drown people in his body, one of his versions is/was talented actor and one (maybe the same one) was killed by mob, bydrowning him in some industrial waste, so I'd say, that man, who can be anyone, with actual superpowers, that can get him almost anywhere and with personal vendetta against bad people could create interesting antihero/symparthetic villain story.
They should make the Batman Brave and The Bold trilogy like this
Batman Brave and The Bold
Batman Hush original Comic storyline
Batman Under The Red Hood original comic storyline
Joker, deathstroke,ra's al gual, bane,Hugo strange
I don’t really follow your logic at all just because at this time of there’s nothing that suggests that Talia or the league of shadows are in the movie in any capacity, he could just have been the robin for like a year already who knows, we know zero details.
A quick wiki search of Karlo’s/Clayface’s backstory as a failed actor turned mutated villain would prove that they character is anything but shallow. They could do a lot with the character in either the DCU/Elseworld universe, but he’d a huge problem for Batman in the DCU specifically since they can lean into his mutation and abilities more
If red hood isn't already a hero by this movie than he will probably be the villian of the second movie. I feel it will be either a villian that hasn't been a main villian a previous movie
Deathstroke is awesome, but there are so many Batman villains that need screentime before including him as the main antagonist. He is kind of like Darkseid in the sense he is a DC Universe villain at this point as opposed to heing confined to a rogues gallery, but he would be classified as Teen Titans villain maybe Nightwing solo rogues before Batman. It is mainly the Arkham game that has implanted this idea as Deathstroke being an arch foe of Batman in the average audience members head.
I really wish to see Man-Bat as the main villain tbh
It’s definitely gonna be Ra’s Al Ghul and the League. Hopefully he’s comic accurate and we see the Lazarus pit
I’m hoping they build to ras al gaul over 3 movies all revolving about wether Damian will be a killer or not, red hood should definitely be the villain of the sequel convincing Damian that Batman is wrong, villain one should be someone you feel sorry for like man bat or mr freeze so we are invested in batman saving them from damian
Man, When Jason appears as Red Hood in the DCU, he better be as cool as Winter Soldier was when he appeared in CATWS.
bryan seeker when he was fancasting an older batman trilogy laid out the path that the first movie would introduce damian and be a bit more simple, the second would be very complex being a live action under the red hood adaptation and the 3rd would be a Hush movie but since hush will probably be the villain of the batman triolgy you could do the court of owls
they didn’t say if this was an origin story of damien. personally i think they’ll do this (and being my preference) and have damien already be established imo.
Bro just give me live action red hood
deathstroke. let them pretty much do the Son of Batman thing. where Slade kills ras and then batman and Damian go after him.