Don’t be surprised when Secret Wars comes out and they reboot everything as more and more people are gonna start pining for more Iron Man and Captain America content.
@@NHTube1hopefully James Gunn saves DCU with the movie about Superman Legacy since Zack Synder ruins Justice League, Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman because they fumble with Superman characterization making him a god and hoeing others Justice League members (Even Batman using a gun)
@@comixproviderftw_02its rumoured that itll be a soft reboot it wont start everything all over again but rather bring change and retcon certain things
@mikeval1525 Amusing. In DC's fanzine, Amazing World of DC Comics, number 14 (March, 1977), Metropolis was clearly stated to be located in Delaware, while Gotham was placed in New Jersey, meaning they were roughly 114 miles apart (geographically speaking). Not what I'd call "very close". That aside, be careful how you use the word "fact" in relation to those 2 cities, as "facts" change all the time in comics.
Dude. There's some factors you left out. Nicole Perlman was over shadowed by Gunn after she spent 2 years researching Guardians to get the script right. Guardians was successful cause it came out post 2012's Avengers. People wanted more MCU. Even 2013's Ironman 3 made over a billion. Gaudians featured Thanos (in his first speaking role). Every mcu movie made money after 2012's Avengers. The stars literally aligned for Gunn. To give him sole credit for Guardians when he came into an already successful franchise is insane.
@@memevondank1197it came out I the pandemic you clown he literally said that in the video 😂😂 if there wasn't a pandemic it would've gotten 600 million minimum
I think its the opposite. DC is starting from the ground up. No one is expecting every movie/show to be a hit or even catch on, they're still testing the waters with general audiences. Marvel has had a ton of flops and have lost general audiences trust. They need years of consistency to gain that trust back so they cannot afford to have another flop like the Marvels or Quantumania because they'll permanently lose fans.
5 ? Bro go back and do the math it was more than that. DC has been terrible for years they better make it up to us for Superman why do you think Gunn is givin it his all for Superman ? Because they know it’s either now or never
@@BaithNa again starting ground less favourable even if superman does well if next 2 or 3 projects bomb its over for dc. One or two movies is not enough save they need 5 + consistent and successful content
@@BaithNa and general audience not lost trust in dc most audiences dont know that dcu is reboting the last 10 dc films have been flops sure antman 3, which made more than dcey film and marvels were bombs but what about dr strange black panther 2, spiderman nwh , guardians 3 and even thor 4 all made money, out of the last 9 marvel films 6 of them made money and only eternals, antman 3 and marvels flopped. Now deadpool and wolverine also going to huge.Even though marvel lost fans its still way larger fanbase than the DC does
@@BaithNa Sorry, but Marvel does 'lots of flops' out of 9 movies 3 have been flops. Ignore the fact the last 9 Dc films all bombed. Add to the fact that the audience is not going to forgive DC more. If Superman or the second Dcu film bombs , its over for the brand outside of batman. It is asinine for you to believe a company like DC, with more flops under their belt than any other major Hollywood franchises 9 flops in a row, will be allowed leeway from audiences if Universe underperforms, even the mcu still more established than dc ever was a film property. Even if Superman is successful that does not guarantee that audience buy into lesser dc characters like Authority or swamp thing. Marvel can put movies for lesser tier characters they still generate more money why because 10 + established fanbase amongst the GA, something dc does not have.
and superman is not going to save them they 5-6 consistent movies to have some interest otherwise dc is toast. Adding Creature commando or swamp thing is bad news are begining of the slate Do you think marvel or dc is bigger ? Someone022
@@OtakuUnderground92 even in animated world most animated movies are batman with small amount superman gl only 2 animated ww only 2 superman a dozen and batman over 2 dozen the fact dc almost all mediums focus on those 2 characters
I think the separation of the mainline DCU and the “black label” properties like Reeves Batman and Phillips Joker is genius. Some people aren’t interested in cinematic universes and just want to see a self contained narrative. It also offers a lot of opportunity for elseworld stories and different takes that can vary wildly artistically from the mainline films. I like that they are kind of structuring this like the comics. I don’t think we’ll ever see something like WW Dead Earth in the mainline canon - but in an elseworld film it could definitely work.
@@orhanamin1347 Correction, you want Snyder. I don’t want psychotic militaristic gun toting Batman. If I want a character like that, I’ll go to my boy Jason Todd.
She’s not the best actress in the world but she did a great job in the massive hit which is the first WW 2017.James Gunn doesn’t even have a WW movie on the slate smh now explain that??
@@zombiemaddness99 because ww is not huge audience he does not a ww movie because ever other outside 2017 with ww has flopped instead giving spinoff tv show about amazons that most people wont be interested in on max
@@TheSoldier1984 the scene with her and flash made me puke in my f*cking mouth like they just couldn’t help themselves. It’s like the executives just couldn’t hold their 13 year old cravings in not even for a powerful deep , character ; pathetic
@@Tiychristianelmorenoguapo Ezra’s flash feels more like Wally west rather than Barry If imma make my own fan cast of the whole JL it’s has to be: Batman - Jensen Ackles Flash - Lucas Till WW - Not sure (Alexandra Daddario Maybe) Hal Jordan - I’m fine with Nathan Fillion Superman - I rlly want Cavill Back but I’d like to see what CorenSwet Can do. Im patient about it, not the morons who kept begging for a snyderverse for 3 years.
When James gunn was first announced as the new ceo of DC, initially I thought he was just fighting a losing battle by being in charge of this dying franchise, but after rewatching most of his movies, especially the guardians of the galaxy trilogy I have a lot of faith in James gunn, and I honestly believe that he'll save the DC franchise. All the snyder fans of Twitter really need to stop crying about the dead dceu because it's long gone.
I just want a Superman who is an honest, kind man who wants to help people with a smile. If James Gunn is inviting over comic creators and experts of the Superman mythos, then THAT IS GREAT! That SHOULD be the standard! He has my vote and support. I may not like all of his projects but he’s shown to be good.
If Superman (2025) fails, DC will have no choice but to keep on making Elseworlds movies for the rest of time. So far, from what I've heard and seen it seems to me like it'll be a barely average movie at worst, but a great movie at best.
Well tbh he’s not wrong. If dcu fails and wbd is sold say goodbye to the dcu. Idk what the new owners would do they’d either bring back the snyderverse due to its financial success or just make elseworld standalone films for a long time
@@faiyaz9768 I'm creating a pitch video for a static Shock movie in the DCU too I feel like he has to be in a chapter eventually . I was thinking it could have a late 90s juice, boyz n the hood meets like spike Lee kind of feel to it for the look mixed with like the warriors
@@batsaubattler3200 this is so real if you do I’m definitely watching it static shock needs a live action movie like blue beetle or miles morales cause well he’s goated and it being a 90s spike Lee, John singleton type movie sounds cool as fuci but still with superhero elements
I trust James Gunn. He brought the GOTG whom none of the general public had known about, and made them household names, while still maintaining his own vision and infusing it with his style and so much heart. Unlike other or previous heads at DC or even Marvel, James cares a lot about the director's vision, which I respect a lot. I hope the new DCU is great, and doesn't fail
I read a subreddit thread reminding me that one of the reasons why DC (and Fantastic Four) kept falling wasn't just executive meddling but because they didn't have their own independent studio yet like Marvel did. And now they do and I'm excited for the DCU.
@@orhanamin1347yes😂 dc is gonna flop, I feel bad but it’s the truth. The same dc fans crying about how unsuccessful dc is refuse to go watch the movies. No one is gonna go see Superman
It really hit me how bad DC’s reputation with general audiences is lowkey cooked when I asked my friend if she had seen the Batman the other day and her response was simply “no bc I don’t like DC films” like it was such a blanket statement I was a little dumbfounded bc like how can you just write off a whole group of films like that but it’s bc the dceu killed her interest overall
More like "Marvel hates Ant-Man and the Wasp." Ever since the infamous Yellowjacket slap (which exists because of an artist to the writer disconnect), Hank Pym has been permanently seen as a abuser and Janet van Dyne as a nothing burger of a character, and let's not talk about how they were treated in the original Ultimate universe too. Apparently, the writers of the Secret Invasion comic wanted to retcon that moment by saying Hank was replaced by a Skrull but Marvel vetoed that because it "was the most notable thing Hank had done in the comics beforehand. " ...what? They were part of the original Avengers line up in the comics alongside Iron Man, Thor and Hulk, Wasp even named the team for crying out loud. Now, in the MCU, they're just old mentor figures to Scott and Hope (Scott's well done, but Hope is a nothing burger of a character, in my opinion). The last time they were in anything mainstream was the Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon back in the early 2010's where they were shown as original Avengers members, as intended and were given character arcs and flaws to overcome. I've heard that they're in the rebooted Ultimate universe with Hank and Janet as Ant-Man/Giant-Man and the Wasp, but it's still not enough after so many decades.
@@SecretMagician Atleast Ant Man and the Wasp have a half decent movie trilogy and are liked by the general public…. Fantastic Four have garbage movies and the general public thinks they’re lame
Suicide squad 2 was great and Peacemaker was also fantastic and this is why i think James Gunn's DCU is going to be great, he has already proven he can do good DC movies. All WB needs to do is stay out of his way and let him cook.
DC first mistake was hiring Zack goddamn Snyder. Yes, his Snyder cut was decent, but when you hire a guy who goes "Yeah Batman kills" but have no literal explanation as to why he doesnt kill the Joker, you have hired an absolute clown, no pun intended. EDIT: The best Lex Luthor is Mr. Krabs, but he is getting older so I can see why they wouldnt cast him.
@@Dru2037 The whole thing with Nolan is kind of its own mess because his friend Heath Ledger passed away and that was so tied to The Dark Knight, along with how he was so under pressure from both WB and Fans to deliver a movie better than The Dark Knight. So it’s understandable why he bailed after TDKR and recommended Snyder…
@@tubebammy The only reason Nolan recommended Snyder was because Tony Scott had passed away before he could offer him the position, David Goyer revealed this some time ago
DC’s two biggest problems: • Rushing to compete with Marvel without doing convincing ground work nor establish trust in their characters. • Letting Snyder have complete control. The former is actually worse than the latter because once Snyder left, WB started throwing everything on the wall.
They need just continuity and consistency. The snyderverse wasn’t going to be amazing or compete with the mcu but it would have been better then what we got from dc after Snyder left. That’s more on WB no way they thought Zack Snyder would be a super marketable wide audience appeal. He makes niche cult classic type movies
i dont like snyder but he did not have full control the studio interfering with everything led up to that terrible justice league movie rushing to compete with the avengers.
@@Zero-jt3bs Yeah the studio is the true villain of the story. Snyder's movies aren't great but he was trying to fit things in his narrative. The studios botched it even worse
Warner Brothers just shouldn't repeat the same mistake they made with the DCEU. Be consistent, avoid studio interferance, don't rush movies, let actors play certain characters for a long time without firing & rehiring. That's how you build a fan base. DC studios is warner bros biggest IP for f**k sake!
I mean....when we thinkg about it, a movie is the perfect length for Tom King to shine. Not too long to turn into his batman or wonderwoman run, plus he had heros in crisis to humble tf out of him which he himself admits
I have always found it weird that pretty much every redhead in comics has been raced-swapped in live-action adaptations. Cause I swear to god if I don’t see my boi Wally West with his iconic red hair, I’m actually tossing a table
Hopefully we'll get a comic accurate ginger Wally rather than using Wallace but I'd love to see him start of as Kid Flash before becoming the Flash after Barry's death. Itll feel more earned rather than jump into him being the Flash without much buildup plus I wanna see my boy Barry be done justice the sooner we forget about Ezra's version the better😂
@@Kalel2.0 I’d love to see him go from being Kid Flash to The Flash. But I’m also cool if it’s just Wally from the start. I’m not too picky as long as we get a good version of Wally and Barry
@@orhanamin1347You mean the version that was widely hated by fans and critics for deviating too far from the source material played by an actor who has allegations and a criminal record that got innocent people harmed and killed his movie's chance of success
Recasting Wonder Woman is a good thing, it puts her back in the spotlight as someone who CAN be recast. we can have generations of wonder women, we can create an idea of there can be *other versions* of wonder woman, just like superman and batman. we can have bad wonder girl TV shows where they flop between Donna and Cassie or even make them a team or whatever. just put that woman back in the picture where she belongs and not in the background of the boys club.
Give Tom King a 12 issue run he will make 12 outstanding issues Give Tom King a 50 issue run he will make 12 outstanding issues. His work when it hits it fucking hits from mr. Miracle, to supergirl woman of tomorrow which imo is his best work, superman up in the sky, human if bablyon, and human target. Just dont let him touch batman he is not good with batman, his batman run and the Heros In Crisis event are from bad to god awful, also his wonderwoman run currently is kinda bad
He's an expert at character assassination because he uses them as his personal therapy session, he's not interested on how they would act, he's just interested in the themes he wants to touch with them, which are usually the same ones
Batman and Superman being around 10 years apart in age or more can work because we've seen it work in the DCAU and that's the most beloved version of those characters.
Personally I'd rather they be close in age as itll make sense narratively and in the comics they tend to be around the same age with Bruce depicted as just a little older. So Clark being between the ages of 28-31 and Bruce 30-34 is I'd personally go for but I respect your opinion
@@Kalel2.0lol what? I’m starting to think a lot of ppl who complain about dc don’t actually read comics. Batman has been consistently much older than members of the justice league except for ww. Batman was 31 during the new 52 and Superman was stated to be 23. They haven’t been close in age since pre crisis.
@@Chiefteeth1I read comics(when I can that is)but for this universe them being closer in age works a lot better and they've always been close in age in the comics from what I've seen
I feel like James Gunn is a DC fan who is getting to live his dream and i am so grateful that he is the co ceo of dc studios. I will finally get to see my fav heroes
I don't see Gunn's DC bombing but, I think it's going take time to get going. So, if these movies don't come out big, I'm afraid WB will fire him. Which will lead to new teams and new disjointed universe.
The Snyder fans may want it to flop because they think it will give them a second chance to restore the Snyderverse. I predict they will review bomb Gunn’s movies regardless of the quality of the movies.
@@biguy617When you really think about it, “majority” means “create more than one account on a platform and spam destructive criticism from different branches,” but at the end of the day it’s just one person behind multiple accounts.
unless the movie is outright horrible, a Superman film is a guaranteed box office success off of the strength of the IP alone plus the amount of time since Man of Steel, people will undoubtedly be going to see that movie. i really don’t think there’s anything to worry about until after the first projects’ releases. based off of the state the franchise appears headed in, you’ll know if it’s gonna be big or die.
The reason the DCEU failed is because of WB meddling, rushing to catch up to marvel, forced comedy, and lack of a consistent tone/universe. Not only that, Snyder was originally signed on to make a Superman trilogy, not a whole flipping universe, BVS was forced onto him. I reckon if Nolan had directed MOS, BVS, and JL with the same amount of meddling by WB, we’d still be here today, but with a different attitude towards the company. Which is why I cannot trust WB with any film production apart from DC, because it’s always the same result in the end.
You've said it. WB is NOT good at making decisions. They ruined BVS by cutting important scenes concerning Superman's frame arc, by spoiling their own movie(WW and Apocalypse scenes ), and butchering JL by bringing Joss Whedon who's style didn't match DCEU's atmosphere. Then instead of letting Snyder direct Man of Steel 2, they let other minor projects continue to ruin DCEU fame. Furthermore, James Gunn didn't help by wanting to do reboot after The Rock brought the interest and excitement back to the product with Black Adam and the return of Superman. This decision completely ruined any hopes for future DC Universe. If the critics dislike Superman Legacy, i don't see any future for James Gunn in DC. It has been shown that the critics tend to have a long term influence on people, since they tend to forget how popular Black Adam was with the fan reviewers (check Rotten Tomato). If James Gunn fails, perhaps WB will realize their mistakes and give the former DCEU another chance.
@@BaithNa last time I checked films starring Cavill and Affleck were still earnings wayyyy more than other DC projects now a days and more than Mr Gunn's suicide squad too
Absolutely excited for this. There's so much passion and planning ahead that just wasn't there for the DCEU. Even amongst whose been casted. I don't get the hesitation from "fans" to embrace this new future that has everything good going for it.
They didn't want the writers to read secret invasion because they would have realized that story is leagues cooler than the shit they were being told to make.
Personally, I kinda want another animated DC universe like the DCAU. Part of my logic is that actors are always going to age, why not use animation so the characters can be whatever age you want them to be.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 some actors and events from previous projects will carry over. The universe is also established from the start so it might not fell like a full reboot or fresh start.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 I mean that's still not a total reboot. amanda waller is also carrying over. blue bettle might also carry over so that's something else that isn't rebooted.
I don't know if I can speak for everyone (SNYDERCULTISTS *AHEM*) but I want Gunn give us DC fans Justice and Hope, I want DC to have FUN with their characters, but more importantly I WANT TO LOVE THESE CHARACTERS DAMN IT!
Imma be real, we MUST let James Gunn cook. But personally I am carefully optimistic about him, he still has the "we are a broken family/team and we bond over the movie" trope in Superhero movies and the weird characters chosen to be given shows/movies makes me rise an eyebrown... BUT we must let him cook, because in the end of the day he seems to like comics and wants to tell a story worth telling... I have faith in it, but I also have to admit I have a high bar for his universe.
DC Fans: Man, I’m sick of Batman and Superman movies. When is WB gonna make movies on other characters? >James Gunn announces movies and shows on Green Lanterns, Supergirl, Booster Gold, Swamp Thing, The Authority, and Creature Commandos Also DC Fans: NOBODY asked for these lesser known D list characters! I want more Batman! (You people are so fickle!)
I don't think The DCU will work, not because the projects will neccessarily be bad, but because The DCU won't be as financially successful as it needs to be.
I think if they keep budgets low and have the character be who they are meant to you can start with smaller profits. Superman doesn't have to make billion if they keep that budget respectable.
@@lightdarksoul2097 Obscure characters like Black Panther & Deadpool have made over a billion, so as long as Superman is done right, it needs to make over a billion.
@@bobbywilliams4438 Again Gunn's Guardians only successful in a mcu that already on fire dc starting with authority second film is a stupid idea that lead to failure why because dc is not trusted brand with Ips outside batman let alone lesser tier heroes
@@bobbywilliams4438 Gunn never created films successful outside the Marvel banner. By the time Gotg came out Marvel had already built their universe. The issue this slate started obscure heroes like Authority and creature Commando, which is a recipe for disaster.
One of the great things about James Gunn's approach to DC is that he doesn't push any agendas, unlike what Disney does. For example, you can see some of this agenda-driven stuff in "Captain Marvel 2" or "She-Hulk" from the MCU.
For the boxoffice on The Suicide Squad argument, it was watched a ton on HBOmax. In TSS's first week on HBOmax it had 3.5M The Snyder Cut had 2.2M. So if The Suicide Squad is a failure, The Snyder Cut is even more of one. I digress, if Superman flops, then Warner Brothers Discovery, not just James Gunn and DC, are in serious trouble. WB is over 40B in debt, if they cannot start winning at the box office then Discovery is going to lose money selling WB off again. This is a studio that owns DC, Harry Potter, Loony Tunes, and their biggest box office hit is Barbie. The studio has had a serious disfuction problem since it was run by Kevin Tsujihara, who lead them to being bought by a phone company. If you want a good starting point as to when WB started a race to the bottom, there it is. People talk about Geoff Johns and Walter Hamada, that ain't it bro. They got on a path that Kevin Tsujihara made, they were not the creators of the problem, they were just good targets for people to lash out on TwitterX at the time because of DC projects, that were mandated by Kevin Tsujihara. He was removed in 2019, and in 5 years WB has just gotten worse leading to them being sold again to Discovery. If Superman fails, and the DCU can't succeed, then WBD has a huge problem not just the DC Studio. Like selling off assets or the whole company for a 3rd time in less then 10 years problems. I'm optimistic though, I really don't see it "flopping" but not meeting expectations more likely, which is more than $1B at the box office. Let's just be honest, that's the expectation. But saying Nathan Fillion as Guy Garner is a banger casting, naw bro. That's the one where I'm like, WTF?
The suicide squad bombed at the boxoffice If ur gonna make the covid excuse Comjuring 2 was r rated and was released around the same time and made more money
I think people should for the film to release before criticizing, we've only seen glimpse of it of the film, and it looks like Gunn knows what he's doing. I've seen james lied a few times, but I'll trust him with superman. I don't see it failing because it's Superman, if the previous superman films can succeed, so can this one. I also hate the toxic fued between both fanbases of Gunn and Snyder when they are truly decent friends in real life. I don't care who's more of a problem, both fanbases should calm down.
James Gunn hasn't got a spotless record, and Superman isn't as bankable as Batman and Spiderman. This could at least underperform. MoS made around 600 million. Superman Legacy might do the same.
Man of steel wasn't relatable for audiences. It made all that money based on just action scenes. New superman could surpass it with same action and better character arcs.@aminingjatt007fromgothamci9
@@aminingjatt007fromgothamci9 one of them was between 2 avengers movies and the other was a decent movie but definitely was given overwhelmingly positive response for having a black director and mostly black artists. You conveniently forgot about antman and even the Guardians for the most part.
I feel more positive about the upcoming DCU than I do about the MCU at this point. Everything Gunn has said about not doing more than 2 movies and 2 shows per year, and not letting a movie go into production until the script is locked in, is music to my ears. And that's before you get to the stuff you touch on in this video about not being afraid of the source material, etc.
Gunn DEFINITELY loves comics. This man added Peacemaker into Suicide Squad. Who gave a damn about Peacemaker before The Suicide Squad? I mean, yeah, a few people knew who he was, since the Watchmen were based off of the Charlton characters (One of which being Peacemaker), but nobody really cared about him. Now you have fanart everywhere.
The projects that he announced a while ago (both movies and series), at least, can't afford to fail. A LOT is riding on this, an ENTIRE BRAND! So if those projects can be a moderate to huge success will lead to good things and more projects being revealed and announced that people may love.
i have faith in gunn he himself said the shooting for his superman film have went smoothly and there will be no need for reshoots so the executives 100% gave him control and hopefully wont pressure him to change up stuff just for the sake of competing with marvel which was the thing that led dc into a shit situation in the first place
Yeah but they cant use his logo, gadgets, supporting cast or rogues gallery. Original Batman will enter public domain, not the modern Batman that everyone knows.
I have complete faith in the DCU. I believe James Gunn and Peter Safran will do wonders for DC. While I love Batman, there is more to DC than just him, and James Gunn can show that.
DCEU sucks because they tried too hard to mimic the MCU. Instead of trying to write great stories, they focus on being dark, edgy, and having big explosions and action scenes that are hard to follow. Wish they'd calm tf down and just adapt stories from the books.
That little snippet of Nick Hoult earnestly being like “Dude YOU are my Lex Luthor, hands down” is so fucking heartwarming. I really like Nick Hoult’s general public persona, like he seems very sweet and kind and funny, not to mention he’s been phenomenal in just about every single thing I have ever seen him in, from Skins UK to the X-Men franchise, to The Great. He’s so young but he’s really one of the great actors of our generation. He also works his ass off-dude is in SO many projects. Also shoutout to his portrayal of Nikola Tesla in The Current War, a very good film about Edison and Westinghouse’s race to electrify America and more specifically their competition for the contract of the World’s Fair in Chicago, and even though Tesla’s role is fairly small, I still think it’s one of the most accurate and respectful depictions of one of the most important meant who ever lived. 👏 I can’t wait to see him terrify as Lex Luthor. I have almost zero concern that he will deliver the type of Lex Performance we want. One with sauce. Nick will bring the sauce to the role. Also: Gal Gadot? Not tall enough. Gimme a Wonder Woman who can look Superman in the eyes, heck gimme a Wonder Woman who looks like she could end me. I want someone maybe not quite as buff as like, Gina Carano (who could absolutely kill a man with her thighs, she is a hot ass muscle mommy but she’s not tall enough), but someone with more meat on their bones to show that they’re a warrior than Gal Gadot had. I want a comic-book Wonder Woman. An Amazon. Casting has to start at 6’. Don’t gimme no 5’10” woman in heels and expect me to believe she could take Superman in a fight. She’s a warrior! Give me buff WW!
superman seems to possibly be a lot of setup and be a feature lenght dcu trailer. Which might not be the best start and turn audiencies off right away.
@@orhanamin1347love this energy. I agree with you, James Gunn will not bring on screen justice to dc characters. IT WILL BE A GIGANTIC BOX OFFICE FLOP AND ALL THE DC FANS CRYING WILL NOT GO SEE THE MOVIE.😂😂
@@Emir_969 Lots of possibilities. But if they continue to suffer failures, there is a strong chance that they will stop producing DC live-action adaptations or/and sell the rights to a more competent studio.
@@Mandalor627I think they are too valuable rights to be just sold to another studio so the more likely scenario is that DC movies will be just dead if that movie flops.
@@Emir_969 Maybe. And it doesn't bother me, honestly. I'd rather that than continue to see DC become more cringe and cheesy. They almost seem like parodies now🤦♂️
They are literally going to do what they did for the Tomorrowverse. The Flash rebooted the universe with a flashpoint, and S2 of peacemaker happens after the flashpoint. There is going to be a multiverse and they will do Crisis in Infinite earths.
James Gunn's leadership has a crucial opportunity to revitalize the DCU, but success hinges on effective management and making each project feel distinct. Each character should have unique tones and themes that fit their stories. For example, Swamp Thing should have a dark, mystical tone, Hal Jordan's Green Lantern should be an epic space opera, and The Flash (Barry Allen) should balance heart and humor with thrilling speedster action. Audiences need to relate to and resonate with the characters throughout their journeys. It's essential for James Gunn’s DCU to take its time developing characters and building the world slowly, allowing audiences to form strong connections and genuinely care for them. Films should also impart meaningful lessons, like those in Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man trilogy, Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy, Logan, X-Men films, Unbreakable, Blade, Hulk, Daredevil (show and director's cut), Punisher films, and Superman films (including Man of Steel). The MCU has become known for being formulaic, overusing jokes, and making characters quip excessively, which undercuts serious moments and makes characters feel too similar. Each MCU film often feels the same in tone, cinematography, and template. In contrast, the DCU should focus on compelling storytelling and character development, avoiding the pitfalls of copying the MCU's approach. What can make the DCU more compelling is the potential for experimenting and innovative storytelling through Elseworlds. This approach is much needed in contemporary cinema for filmgoers and cinephiles. Taking risks with underrated characters and ensuring every film has a distinct theme and tone while still being part of a cohesive universe will be key. If "Superman" succeeds, it will be due to respecting the source material and the audience, while learning from the early days of the MCU's success, particularly Phase 1, which was more creative and willing to take risks with characters and films. The goal should be to avoid cookie-cutter movies and instead deliver unique, engaging stories that stand out in today's cinematic landscape.
To your point on Batman and Superman ages. I think that Bruce Wayne should be around 37-38 years old. My fancast say Oliver Jackson cohen. He Got the acting chops, the look, and he’s 37 so Batman will only be about 5 years older than Superman. Now as for Batman having the 4 robins in his age this is how u do it. Age 25: Batman year 1 sometime before year 1 age 25 Batman meets Talia in his early 20s and Damian is born. Age 28: Batman meets and trains a 15 year old dick Grayson. And starts crime fighting with him for like 2 years. Age 31: Bruce meeting a 14-15 year old jason todd shortly after dick Grayson now age 18 is now nightwing. Age 33: the killing joke and death in the family. Barbara paralyzed and jason dies. Age 35: Bruce meets Tim drake. Bruce refuses to make him robin after what happened to jason and Barbara. So instead he allows Tim to be the tech guy on the bat computer helping Bruce on missions basically the role that oracle has. Age 37: brave and the bold Batman meets Damian. The batfamily goes catwoman, nightwing, batgirl, and Tim( not as robin but an honorary robin, makes it easier for the general audience).Dick is now in his mid 20s, Jason will be early 20s when he eventually comes back, Barbara around mid 20s, Tim is like 18, Selina around Bruce age maybe a little younger, Damian is 10-13 years old
Remember that you have to take into account when the movie is going to come out, it's to early to be fancasting. It's also easier to take a younger guy and just say he's older in the movie than to take an old guy and say he's younger in the movie
Tim could be Red Robin instead of an honorary Robin. Also, the Teen Titans need to fit in somewhere here as there's a film in the works. I think they should take from the DCAMU and make Dick Grayson and Koriand'r the same age (makes sense anyway), but I'm not sure if Tim or Damian will be part of it and the ages of the other members. Oh! Cyborg should be around the same age as Dick and Kori so that his shift into the Justice League makes sense.
Nothing Gunn announced got me excited. Doesn't sound like he wants to do a definitive version of the DC cinematic universe. Sounds like he's just using the universe as a aandbox to play in, but you can't build a cinematic universe off of mostly side/support characters.
Exactly. The first casting announcements should've been core DC characters: Green Lantern. WW. The Flash. Batman. Superman. I've been reading comics a long time. I haven't ever given a damn about "Mr. Terrific" lol. He's a D-list character at best.
Dc is failing me, we are all so disappointed with dc movies and shows. James Gunn doesn’t know how to write dc characters, this will be the tragic downfall of dc😖
Good vid bro. I came to some of the same conclusions you did. If WBD set achievable box office targets, hopefully it'll be around for a while. As for recasting, I like Ethan Peck for Batman and Camila Morrone for Wonder Woman... so far.
The biggest worry about the DCU is how many projects have been announced years in advance and, obviously, how much money has been invested. Superman literally has to make $1bn and above to be considered successful and that's a very tall order even if the movie is good
All I ask for in a Marvel/DC/Transformers movie etc is a Good and decent movie that can entertain me with great characters that feel authentic, compelling themes and even though I stopped read comics I'd like it to be accurate and use the source material. All we want is good films back to back to back to back
While thay crossover would be cool and would be an instant billion dollar movies, those three IPs are owned by three different studios and they have no incentive to work together.
I think DC should’ve waited a little longer before dropping a new DCU movie-verse on us, but whatever. Kinda skeptical about Gunn. He’s really at his best when writing for more obscure, comedic characters. This coupled with the fact that he’s bringing Tom King (probably best known for destroying Batman and Wally West’s Flash in comics) into the writing room and adapting his work, is an instant turn off (why King? Why not anyone else? Mark Waid or Tom Taylor maybe? Anyone but King.)
Yea I agree Jenson and Alan are too old for the role Batman, Brandon Skenlar is a good cast Batman he’s 6’2 and 32 currently and all James Gunn needs to do is take elements from the New 52 bat family Timeline, and adaptations don’t always copy and paste you can make Bruce start being Batman at age 23 to 24, I say Bruce should be around 35 in the movie brave and the bold.
Doesn't that really make sense??? What sense does it make to fix Zach Snyders take ruined by corporate interference to then add more corporate interference with Warner /discovery
I'm optimistic for James Gunn's direction for a superhero universe. Even before he became a big director, he played around with superhero stories. He wrote a low-budget movie called The Specials which is a comedy about the sixth (or seventh) most popular superhero team in the world. He directed and wrote Super which is about a street crime level superhero. Both of them came before the big superhero wave, so I think the topic is a passion project for him. WB executives on the other hand....
Peacemaker was underwhelming I just couldn’t care at all for his character at all. It’s not like gotg where you actually feel for them in every film. Peacemaker just feels irrelevant.
THANKS man for pointing out that that is Graysons nightwing , nobody talks about that and they keep using that picture and saying Bruce Wayne and his son Damian it is driving me crazy😖
If Superman flops we getting only Batman movies until the sun explodes😭
And they'll only be dark broody synder batmen
Exactly Marvel uses all of their characters meanwhile DC only uses Batman
Don’t be surprised when Secret Wars comes out and they reboot everything as more and more people are gonna start pining for more Iron Man and Captain America content.
@@NHTube1hopefully James Gunn saves DCU with the movie about Superman Legacy since Zack Synder ruins Justice League, Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman because they fumble with Superman characterization making him a god and hoeing others Justice League members (Even Batman using a gun)
@@comixproviderftw_02its rumoured that itll be a soft reboot it wont start everything all over again but rather bring change and retcon certain things
I think Gunn’s DCU can work, but they need to keep the WB executives as far away as possible.
I feel like if it does do well, the execs will try to get more involved in the next films
They can't. Would violate Gunns contract. Dc studios is his and Peter Safrans own thing. They have complete artistic control
Actually, metropolis and Gotham being very close to each other is a fact from the comics.
Was wondering about that
Definitely true. It was actually established in the Pre-Crisis continuity until the Post-Crisis continuity changed it.
They've been separated but it wouldn't make sense for Gotham to be across the river and Superman not step in do something about the crime.
@mikeval1525 Amusing. In DC's fanzine, Amazing World of DC Comics, number 14 (March, 1977), Metropolis was clearly stated to be located in Delaware, while Gotham was placed in New Jersey, meaning they were roughly 114 miles apart (geographically speaking). Not what I'd call "very close". That aside, be careful how you use the word "fact" in relation to those 2 cities, as "facts" change all the time in comics.
Dang I thought that was just for the Lego games lol
It's amazing how James Gunn turned a group of unknown people into pop culture icons AND he did it twice. Praying for his universe to be successful.
@@orhanamin1347 Snyderverse and Snyder cult can go to hell !
@@orhanamin1347 actual dead brain comment
Dude. There's some factors you left out. Nicole Perlman was over shadowed by Gunn after she spent 2 years researching Guardians to get the script right. Guardians was successful cause it came out post 2012's Avengers. People wanted more MCU. Even 2013's Ironman 3 made over a billion. Gaudians featured Thanos (in his first speaking role). Every mcu movie made money after 2012's Avengers. The stars literally aligned for Gunn. To give him sole credit for Guardians when he came into an already successful franchise is insane.
and gunn only made characters sucessful under marvel umberella
@@harryrao4296what does that mean tho? Guardians were nobody’s before the his movies
These mfs won't let another superman project come out till the next century if superman movie fails even a little
But the suicide squad will get atleast 10 more flops before DC stops using them
@@memevondank1197it came out I the pandemic you clown he literally said that in the video 😂😂 if there wasn't a pandemic it would've gotten 600 million minimum
Hopefully. Superman's lame anyway
@@sidauthur7836 L opinion
@@sidauthur7836cope
Unlike DC, Marvel can afford a few flops here and there. So DC literally can’t afford another flop when they had 5 in a row the past couple years.
I think its the opposite.
DC is starting from the ground up. No one is expecting every movie/show to be a hit or even catch on, they're still testing the waters with general audiences.
Marvel has had a ton of flops and have lost general audiences trust. They need years of consistency to gain that trust back so they cannot afford to have another flop like the Marvels or Quantumania because they'll permanently lose fans.
5 ? Bro go back and do the math it was more than that. DC has been terrible for years they better make it up to us for Superman why do you think Gunn is givin it his all for Superman ? Because they know it’s either now or never
@@BaithNa again starting ground less favourable even if superman does well if next 2 or 3 projects bomb its over for dc. One or two movies is not enough save they need 5 + consistent and successful content
@@BaithNa and general audience not lost trust in dc most audiences dont know that dcu is reboting the last 10 dc films have been flops sure antman 3, which made more than dcey film and marvels were bombs but what about dr strange black panther 2, spiderman nwh , guardians 3 and even thor 4 all made money, out of the last 9 marvel films 6 of them made money and only eternals, antman 3 and marvels flopped. Now deadpool and wolverine also going to huge.Even though marvel lost fans its still way larger fanbase than the DC does
@@BaithNa Sorry, but Marvel does 'lots of flops' out of 9 movies 3 have been flops. Ignore the fact the last 9 Dc films all bombed. Add to the fact that the audience is not going to forgive DC more. If Superman or the second Dcu film bombs , its over for the brand outside of batman. It is asinine for you to believe a company like DC, with more flops under their belt than any other major Hollywood franchises 9 flops in a row, will be allowed leeway from audiences if Universe underperforms, even the mcu still more established than dc ever was a film property. Even if Superman is successful that does not guarantee that audience buy into lesser dc characters like Authority or swamp thing. Marvel can put movies for lesser tier characters they still generate more money why because 10 + established fanbase amongst the GA, something dc does not have.
It kinda scare me that this is literally DC last fight for recognition otherwise they will do only Batman content forever
and superman is not going to save them they 5-6 consistent movies to have some interest otherwise dc is toast. Adding Creature commando or swamp thing is bad news are begining of the slate Do you think marvel or dc is bigger ? Someone022
which is more popular marvel or dc
I mean that’s kinda what they’ve been doing with animation outside that Crisis on Infinite Earths thing.
@@OtakuUnderground92 animation small niche niche markett most mainstream viewers dont watch
@@OtakuUnderground92 even in animated world most animated movies are batman with small amount superman gl only 2 animated ww only 2 superman a dozen and batman over 2 dozen the fact dc almost all mediums focus on those 2 characters
I think the separation of the mainline DCU and the “black label” properties like Reeves Batman and Phillips Joker is genius. Some people aren’t interested in cinematic universes and just want to see a self contained narrative. It also offers a lot of opportunity for elseworld stories and different takes that can vary wildly artistically from the mainline films. I like that they are kind of structuring this like the comics. I don’t think we’ll ever see something like WW Dead Earth in the mainline canon - but in an elseworld film it could definitely work.
@@orhanamin1347cry
@@orhanamin1347let it go
Facts
@@orhanamin1347 Correction, you want Snyder. I don’t want psychotic militaristic gun toting Batman. If I want a character like that, I’ll go to my boy Jason Todd.
@@orhanamin1347 I love watching you lose your mind in these comment sections.
Dear god as a Wonder Woman fan I just hope I get someone who can *ACTUALLY ACT* for the role , Diana is SO MUCH MORE than just eye candy 🍭🤦🏽♂️
She’s not the best actress in the world but she did a great job in the massive hit which is the first WW 2017.James Gunn doesn’t even have a WW movie on the slate smh now explain that??
@@zombiemaddness99 because ww is not huge audience he does not a ww movie because ever other outside 2017 with ww has flopped instead giving spinoff tv show about amazons that most people wont be interested in on max
KAL EL NO 😂
@@TheSoldier1984 the scene with her and flash made me puke in my f*cking mouth like they just couldn’t help themselves. It’s like the executives just couldn’t hold their 13 year old cravings in not even for a powerful deep , character ; pathetic
@@Tiychristianelmorenoguapo Ezra’s flash feels more like Wally west rather than Barry
If imma make my own fan cast of the whole JL it’s has to be:
Batman - Jensen Ackles
Flash - Lucas Till
WW - Not sure (Alexandra Daddario Maybe)
Hal Jordan - I’m fine with Nathan Fillion
Superman - I rlly want Cavill Back but I’d like to see what CorenSwet Can do. Im patient about it, not the morons who kept begging for a snyderverse for 3 years.
When James gunn was first announced as the new ceo of DC, initially I thought he was just fighting a losing battle by being in charge of this dying franchise, but after rewatching most of his movies, especially the guardians of the galaxy trilogy I have a lot of faith in James gunn, and I honestly believe that he'll save the DC franchise.
All the snyder fans of Twitter really need to stop crying about the dead dceu because it's long gone.
I just want a Superman who is an honest, kind man who wants to help people with a smile.
If James Gunn is inviting over comic creators and experts of the Superman mythos, then THAT IS GREAT!
That SHOULD be the standard! He has my vote and support. I may not like all of his projects but he’s shown to be good.
When I think of comic creators are experts at Superman Tom King is the last guy who comes to mind.
@@matthewhecht9257Exactly
If Superman (2025) fails, DC will have no choice but to keep on making Elseworlds movies for the rest of time. So far, from what I've heard and seen it seems to me like it'll be a barely average movie at worst, but a great movie at best.
@@orhanamin1347 Find a healthier hobby, seriously.
@@orhanamin1347they're way too invested, not a damn chance they sell it
@@orhanamin1347 Synder fans are so thick in the head that the think that's possible. It's literally impossible. Please get a job.
@@orhanamin1347dude c mon do better things with your time
Well tbh he’s not wrong. If dcu fails and wbd is sold say goodbye to the dcu. Idk what the new owners would do they’d either bring back the snyderverse due to its financial success or just make elseworld standalone films for a long time
The only project i want is lanterns ive always wanted to see the lanterns treated with respect.
Lanterns project and a static show movie like blue beetles
@@faiyaz9768 I'm creating a pitch video for a static Shock movie in the DCU too I feel like he has to be in a chapter eventually . I was thinking it could have a late 90s juice, boyz n the hood meets like spike Lee kind of feel to it for the look mixed with like the warriors
@@batsaubattler3200 this is so real if you do I’m definitely watching it static shock needs a live action movie like blue beetle or miles morales cause well he’s goated and it being a 90s spike Lee, John singleton type movie sounds cool as fuci but still with superhero elements
@@faiyaz9768 yeah I'll try to come back to this and link it with the permission of M The Chef first
Prepare to be disappointed as they're gonna do Hal Jordan dirty by giving him the Hank Pym treatment
I trust James Gunn. He brought the GOTG whom none of the general public had known about, and made them household names, while still maintaining his own vision and infusing it with his style and so much heart. Unlike other or previous heads at DC or even Marvel, James cares a lot about the director's vision, which I respect a lot.
I hope the new DCU is great, and doesn't fail
@@orhanamin1347the Snyderverse is over, move on like everyone else, kid.
So do I dude!
@@BaithNaJust ignore the kid
@@Chaosedits_CH02yeah, its best to that.
@@orhanamin1347😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡😂😂🤡 go watch his shitty Star Wars
I read a subreddit thread reminding me that one of the reasons why DC (and Fantastic Four) kept falling wasn't just executive meddling but because they didn't have their own independent studio yet like Marvel did. And now they do and I'm excited for the DCU.
@@orhanamin1347 🤨
@orhanamin1347 be quiet you bot acting npc ah hack
@@orhanamin1347you have brain Rot from Skibidi Snyder dop dop
@@orhanamin1347:🤡
@@orhanamin1347yes😂 dc is gonna flop, I feel bad but it’s the truth. The same dc fans crying about how unsuccessful dc is refuse to go watch the movies. No one is gonna go see Superman
It really hit me how bad DC’s reputation with general audiences is lowkey cooked when I asked my friend if she had seen the Batman the other day and her response was simply “no bc I don’t like DC films” like it was such a blanket statement I was a little dumbfounded bc like how can you just write off a whole group of films like that but it’s bc the dceu killed her interest overall
@ricebowl there you dc is damaged in eyes of people that one or two movies going save it even superman comes huge hit i dont think they be enough
Sounds like brain washing imo
Because she doesn’t. Dc sucks and that ok, us dc fans have to accept that. Dc is losing fans by the second and will collapse. #ripdc
@@BluuBarryAllen people say marvel are losing fans yet even at their lowest marvel way ahead of dc
@@BluuBarryAllen marvel is just going have movie next week might make a billon dollars in Deadpool and wolverine
Can you make a “Marvel hates the Fantastic Four” video?
Hates more simply dosent want to follow any comic book
More like “Marvel hates the Hulk”
More like "Marvel hates Ant-Man and the Wasp."
Ever since the infamous Yellowjacket slap (which exists because of an artist to the writer disconnect), Hank Pym has been permanently seen as a abuser and Janet van Dyne as a nothing burger of a character, and let's not talk about how they were treated in the original Ultimate universe too. Apparently, the writers of the Secret Invasion comic wanted to retcon that moment by saying Hank was replaced by a Skrull but Marvel vetoed that because it "was the most notable thing Hank had done in the comics beforehand. "
...what?
They were part of the original Avengers line up in the comics alongside Iron Man, Thor and Hulk, Wasp even named the team for crying out loud. Now, in the MCU, they're just old mentor figures to Scott and Hope (Scott's well done, but Hope is a nothing burger of a character, in my opinion).
The last time they were in anything mainstream was the Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon back in the early 2010's where they were shown as original Avengers members, as intended and were given character arcs and flaws to overcome. I've heard that they're in the rebooted Ultimate universe with Hank and Janet as Ant-Man/Giant-Man and the Wasp, but it's still not enough after so many decades.
@@SecretMagicianTruer words have never been spoken.
@@SecretMagician Atleast Ant Man and the Wasp have a half decent movie trilogy and are liked by the general public…. Fantastic Four have garbage movies and the general public thinks they’re lame
DC cannot afford another flop. If Superman flops, his universe is definitely in trouble. To the point it could set back the brand for years.
Suicide squad 2 was great and Peacemaker was also fantastic and this is why i think James Gunn's DCU is going to be great, he has already proven he can do good DC movies. All WB needs to do is stay out of his way and let him cook.
DC first mistake was hiring Zack goddamn Snyder. Yes, his Snyder cut was decent, but when you hire a guy who goes "Yeah Batman kills" but have no literal explanation as to why he doesnt kill the Joker, you have hired an absolute clown, no pun intended.
EDIT: The best Lex Luthor is Mr. Krabs, but he is getting older so I can see why they wouldnt cast him.
DC actually wanted Nolan but he turned them down and recommended Snyder. Clancy Brown is the best.
@@Dru2037 Nolan normally cooks, but they should not have let him cook with that recommendation.
@@Dru2037 The whole thing with Nolan is kind of its own mess because his friend Heath Ledger passed away and that was so tied to The Dark Knight, along with how he was so under pressure from both WB and Fans to deliver a movie better than The Dark Knight. So it’s understandable why he bailed after TDKR and recommended Snyder…
Tbh Nolan is bad to the movie is only good cuz of joker
@@tubebammy The only reason Nolan recommended Snyder was because Tony Scott had passed away before he could offer him the position, David Goyer revealed this some time ago
I've moved on from the live action films. I'm just going to catch up with 80+ years of comics.
DC’s two biggest problems:
• Rushing to compete with Marvel without doing convincing ground work nor establish trust in their characters.
• Letting Snyder have complete control.
The former is actually worse than the latter because once Snyder left, WB started throwing everything on the wall.
They need just continuity and consistency. The snyderverse wasn’t going to be amazing or compete with the mcu but it would have been better then what we got from dc after Snyder left. That’s more on WB no way they thought Zack Snyder would be a super marketable wide audience appeal. He makes niche cult classic type movies
That was in the past
@@sladewilson377 this past event just ended a little over a year ago. And what WB lasted for 10 years
i dont like snyder but he did not have full control the studio interfering with everything led up to that terrible justice league movie rushing to compete with the avengers.
@@Zero-jt3bs Yeah the studio is the true villain of the story. Snyder's movies aren't great but he was trying to fit things in his narrative. The studios botched it even worse
Warner Brothers just shouldn't repeat the same mistake they made with the DCEU. Be consistent, avoid studio interferance, don't rush movies, let actors play certain characters for a long time without firing & rehiring. That's how you build a fan base. DC studios is warner bros biggest IP for f**k sake!
Yeah that'll be why they hired Gunn to run it.
Tom King being part of the DCU creative is the exact opposite of inspiring
I mean....when we thinkg about it, a movie is the perfect length for Tom King to shine.
Not too long to turn into his batman or wonderwoman run, plus he had heros in crisis to humble tf out of him which he himself admits
I quite liked Tom King’s batman run.
Tom king actually is really good though Woman of tomorrow was great and I wouldn't mind him being put in charge of supergirl
I have always found it weird that pretty much every redhead in comics has been raced-swapped in live-action adaptations. Cause I swear to god if I don’t see my boi Wally West with his iconic red hair, I’m actually tossing a table
Hopefully we'll get a comic accurate ginger Wally rather than using Wallace but I'd love to see him start of as Kid Flash before becoming the Flash after Barry's death. Itll feel more earned rather than jump into him being the Flash without much buildup plus I wanna see my boy Barry be done justice the sooner we forget about Ezra's version the better😂
@@orhanamin1347 uh…… huh?
@@Kalel2.0 I’d love to see him go from being Kid Flash to The Flash. But I’m also cool if it’s just Wally from the start. I’m not too picky as long as we get a good version of Wally and Barry
@@orhanamin1347You mean the version that was widely hated by fans and critics for deviating too far from the source material played by an actor who has allegations and a criminal record that got innocent people harmed and killed his movie's chance of success
@@orhanamin1347bro you are a literal child and are living under a rock. have you not heard what ezra has done?
If they don't adapt Superman's Girlfriend Lois Lane #59, they clearly don't respect the source material.
@@orhanamin1347most fans care
Recasting Wonder Woman is a good thing, it puts her back in the spotlight as someone who CAN be recast. we can have generations of wonder women, we can create an idea of there can be *other versions* of wonder woman, just like superman and batman. we can have bad wonder girl TV shows where they flop between Donna and Cassie or even make them a team or whatever. just put that woman back in the picture where she belongs and not in the background of the boys club.
When you mention Tom King being one of the writers for DCU, I heard nothing but bad things about how terrible he is as a writer from the DC community
The only thing I’ve enjoyed from him is mister miracle run. He completely botched Wonder Woman.
When Kings writing works it hits hard but its largely hit or miss
Give Tom King a 12 issue run he will make 12 outstanding issues
Give Tom King a 50 issue run he will make 12 outstanding issues.
His work when it hits it fucking hits from mr. Miracle, to supergirl woman of tomorrow which imo is his best work, superman up in the sky, human if bablyon, and human target.
Just dont let him touch batman he is not good with batman, his batman run and the Heros In Crisis event are from bad to god awful, also his wonderwoman run currently is kinda bad
He's an expert at character assassination because he uses them as his personal therapy session, he's not interested on how they would act, he's just interested in the themes he wants to touch with them, which are usually the same ones
He’s hit or miss. His current WW series is ass but 90% of writers grt her wrong so who really cares anymore
Let's see where Gunn's ambition will take him. Hope he succeeds
When has Gunn failed?
@@orhanamin1347lol fuk the snyder fans.
@orhanamin1347 oh be quiet you hating ass 🤡
@@orhanamin1347Snyder’s films suck, why don’t you cry edgelord fangirl
@@dcmastermindfirst9418suicide Squad and peacemaker peace of dogshit with humor for insells
Batman and Superman being around 10 years apart in age or more can work because we've seen it work in the DCAU and that's the most beloved version of those characters.
Personally I'd rather they be close in age as itll make sense narratively and in the comics they tend to be around the same age with Bruce depicted as just a little older. So Clark being between the ages of 28-31 and Bruce 30-34 is I'd personally go for but I respect your opinion
@@Kalel2.0lol what? I’m starting to think a lot of ppl who complain about dc don’t actually read comics. Batman has been consistently much older than members of the justice league except for ww. Batman was 31 during the new 52 and Superman was stated to be 23. They haven’t been close in age since pre crisis.
@@Chiefteeth1bro isn’t the current Superman in his 40s the new 52 Superman is long dead.
Talk about people who don’t read comics
@@Chiefteeth1I read comics(when I can that is)but for this universe them being closer in age works a lot better and they've always been close in age in the comics from what I've seen
How do Superman and Batman have a 10 year age difference in the DCAU?
it’s gotta at LEAST make $800M at box office with the score of 80% or it’s gonna flop hard.
If he can keep the budget low then it won't have to make that much but we'll see.
@@lightdarksoul2097it's already a mega Flop loading
I feel like James Gunn is a DC fan who is getting to live his dream and i am so grateful that he is the co ceo of dc studios. I will finally get to see my fav heroes
you be cooking with these videos my boy favorite new youtuber rn keep it up
I don't see Gunn's DC bombing but, I think it's going take time to get going.
So, if these movies don't come out big, I'm afraid WB will fire him.
Which will lead to new teams and new disjointed universe.
It's already a mega Flop loading with that Cosplay Suit
James Gunn has the best at balancing humor and emotional moments and packing it into a film.
The Snyder fans may want it to flop because they think it will give them a second chance to restore the Snyderverse. I predict they will review bomb Gunn’s movies regardless of the quality of the movies.
I do wonder if the review bombing will hurt other superman movies.
They ain't the Majority.
@@emanuelsonJnr I know that but they think they are the majority
@@biguy617When you really think about it, “majority” means “create more than one account on a platform and spam destructive criticism from different branches,” but at the end of the day it’s just one person behind multiple accounts.
unless the movie is outright horrible, a Superman film is a guaranteed box office success off of the strength of the IP alone plus the amount of time since Man of Steel, people will undoubtedly be going to see that movie. i really don’t think there’s anything to worry about until after the first projects’ releases. based off of the state the franchise appears headed in, you’ll know if it’s gonna be big or die.
Superman, Flash, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, literally anyone else other than Batman! I'm sick of Batman
Especially young gritty Batman.
How many times do we have to see another take on Batman's early years before we can move on?
@@BaithNa Batman Beyond
@@CodenamePrincethat was like 25 years ago. The biggest audience for superhero movies now weren’t alive when the first episode came out
@l8studios_ I meant a new Batman Beyond. Do a trilogy with the OG Batman then transition to Batman Beyond
Young gritty Batman sells and the Batman was excellent @BaithNa
So basically James Gunn’s Batman will be older than Pattinson’s, but younger than Affleck’s
The reason the DCEU failed is because of WB meddling, rushing to catch up to marvel, forced comedy, and lack of a consistent tone/universe. Not only that, Snyder was originally signed on to make a Superman trilogy, not a whole flipping universe, BVS was forced onto him. I reckon if Nolan had directed MOS, BVS, and JL with the same amount of meddling by WB, we’d still be here today, but with a different attitude towards the company. Which is why I cannot trust WB with any film production apart from DC, because it’s always the same result in the end.
You've said it. WB is NOT good at making decisions. They ruined BVS by cutting important scenes concerning Superman's frame arc, by spoiling their own movie(WW and Apocalypse scenes ), and butchering JL by bringing Joss Whedon who's style didn't match DCEU's atmosphere. Then instead of letting Snyder direct Man of Steel 2, they let other minor projects continue to ruin DCEU fame. Furthermore, James Gunn didn't help by wanting to do reboot after The Rock brought the interest and excitement back to the product with Black Adam and the return of Superman. This decision completely ruined any hopes for future DC Universe. If the critics dislike Superman Legacy, i don't see any future for James Gunn in DC. It has been shown that the critics tend to have a long term influence on people, since they tend to forget how popular Black Adam was with the fan reviewers (check Rotten Tomato). If James Gunn fails, perhaps WB will realize their mistakes and give the former DCEU another chance.
There's no pressure. Literally just follow the good comics. Stop trying to leave an imprint by being original. Be known for making a good movie.
I beg of you guys, please leave the house and support the DCU
Grass will be touched 😤
No we want Cavill and Affleck
@@zeshanwattoo1046who's we? Their movies all underperformed so most people do not want them at all.
@@zeshanwattoo1046Says who Mr Rhodes that wont do anything but regress DC
@@BaithNa last time I checked films starring Cavill and Affleck were still earnings wayyyy more than other DC projects now a days and more than Mr Gunn's suicide squad too
Omg there's actually still people trying to restore the snyder verse?? Bruh go make your own movies it wouldn't be too hard to make better than Snyder
Just Like WB did perform after Zack Snyder's departure 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@MovieMatrix_11made for tv blue beetle was a better film than any of Snyder’s films
@@jmanakajosh9354 Actually, better than all Marvel movies
@@MovieMatrix_11no
Absolutely excited for this. There's so much passion and planning ahead that just wasn't there for the DCEU. Even amongst whose been casted. I don't get the hesitation from "fans" to embrace this new future that has everything good going for it.
They didn't want the writers to read secret invasion because they would have realized that story is leagues cooler than the shit they were being told to make.
I think Superman could do well if they market it well. They hinted at something called “Summer of Superman”, which could be the marketing campaign.
We need DCU because I'm been big fan of DC when I was kid now I grown up I still big fan of DC hopefully it successfully
Personally, I kinda want another animated DC universe like the DCAU. Part of my logic is that actors are always going to age, why not use animation so the characters can be whatever age you want them to be.
They had that and it didn't do all that great with the movies after flashpoint
I really don't want movie tie-in games for this universe but lets hope i am wrong and this universe turns out good.
I think DC should’ve done a full reboot.
It is a full reboot.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 some actors and events from previous projects will carry over. The universe is also established from the start so it might not fell like a full reboot or fresh start.
@rorylumley4727 No they won't
Literally the only character continuing is Peacemaker.
Nobody else.
As a Snyder fan I completely agree because it’s confusing for the average viewer and the DCEU technically isn’t dead if peacemaker still continues
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 I mean that's still not a total reboot. amanda waller is also carrying over. blue bettle might also carry over so that's something else that isn't rebooted.
I don't know if I can speak for everyone (SNYDERCULTISTS *AHEM*) but I want Gunn give us DC fans Justice and Hope, I want DC to have FUN with their characters, but more importantly I WANT TO LOVE THESE CHARACTERS DAMN IT!
Alrighty Buddy, I'll give you the attention your parents never gave you.
@@VictoryArtz LMAO.
I think that is what all real DC fans want (not the Snyder cultist) and from everything I've heard, Gunn wants it too.
@@orhanamin1347goofy man child be quiet
@@orhanamin1347shush kid shush
Imma be real, we MUST let James Gunn cook.
But personally I am carefully optimistic about him, he still has the "we are a broken family/team and we bond over the movie" trope in Superhero movies and the weird characters chosen to be given shows/movies makes me rise an eyebrown...
BUT we must let him cook, because in the end of the day he seems to like comics and wants to tell a story worth telling... I have faith in it, but I also have to admit I have a high bar for his universe.
Nah, give someone else a chance at this rate, maybe someone that directs the animated films. Millions of dollars are being fumbled.
DC Fans: Man, I’m sick of Batman and Superman movies. When is WB gonna make movies on other characters?
>James Gunn announces movies and shows on Green Lanterns, Supergirl, Booster Gold, Swamp Thing, The Authority, and Creature Commandos
Also DC Fans: NOBODY asked for these lesser known D list characters! I want more Batman!
(You people are so fickle!)
Me a "The creaper" and "Question" Fan: "Yeah no one wants supergirl"!
All jokes aside its nice having guy Gardner get love in a main movie.
Agreed.
This is basically also Arkham fans too
You're conflating groups of people.
The authority wasn't needed, they can take that shit off
I don't think The DCU will work, not because the projects will neccessarily be bad, but because The DCU won't be as financially successful as it needs to be.
I think if they keep budgets low and have the character be who they are meant to you can start with smaller profits. Superman doesn't have to make billion if they keep that budget respectable.
@@lightdarksoul2097 Obscure characters like Black Panther & Deadpool have made over a billion, so as long as Superman is done right, it needs to make over a billion.
I just hope the dcu focuses on lesser known characters like plastic man, red tornado, and metamorpho
Well look at what gunn did with the Guardians, I think we'll see some of those characters. Like a live action DCAU
It will. He confirmed it.
He will bring in lesser known characters and focus on them whilst focusing on the well known characters like Batman.
@@JayizNOTimmrtal when dc ever been successful in film with lesser tier charcaters?
@@bobbywilliams4438 Again Gunn's Guardians only successful in a mcu that already on fire dc starting with authority second film is a stupid idea that lead to failure why because dc is not trusted brand with Ips outside batman let alone lesser tier heroes
@@bobbywilliams4438 Gunn never created films successful outside the Marvel banner. By the time Gotg came out Marvel had already built their universe. The issue this slate started obscure heroes like Authority and creature Commando, which is a recipe for disaster.
7:00 Look at that…Now THAT is Metropolis. The City of Tomorrow. Incredible.
One of the great things about James Gunn's approach to DC is that he doesn't push any agendas, unlike what Disney does. For example, you can see some of this agenda-driven stuff in "Captain Marvel 2" or "She-Hulk" from the MCU.
Lets just wait for Supergirl to come out... You "agenda" people will be screaming from the hills
For the boxoffice on The Suicide Squad argument, it was watched a ton on HBOmax. In TSS's first week on HBOmax it had 3.5M The Snyder Cut had 2.2M. So if The Suicide Squad is a failure, The Snyder Cut is even more of one.
I digress, if Superman flops, then Warner Brothers Discovery, not just James Gunn and DC, are in serious trouble. WB is over 40B in debt, if they cannot start winning at the box office then Discovery is going to lose money selling WB off again. This is a studio that owns DC, Harry Potter, Loony Tunes, and their biggest box office hit is Barbie.
The studio has had a serious disfuction problem since it was run by Kevin Tsujihara, who lead them to being bought by a phone company. If you want a good starting point as to when WB started a race to the bottom, there it is.
People talk about Geoff Johns and Walter Hamada, that ain't it bro. They got on a path that Kevin Tsujihara made, they were not the creators of the problem, they were just good targets for people to lash out on TwitterX at the time because of DC projects, that were mandated by Kevin Tsujihara. He was removed in 2019, and in 5 years WB has just gotten worse leading to them being sold again to Discovery.
If Superman fails, and the DCU can't succeed, then WBD has a huge problem not just the DC Studio. Like selling off assets or the whole company for a 3rd time in less then 10 years problems. I'm optimistic though, I really don't see it "flopping" but not meeting expectations more likely, which is more than $1B at the box office. Let's just be honest, that's the expectation.
But saying Nathan Fillion as Guy Garner is a banger casting, naw bro. That's the one where I'm like, WTF?
The suicide squad bombed at the boxoffice
If ur gonna make the covid excuse
Comjuring 2 was r rated and was released around the same time and made more money
I think people should for the film to release before criticizing, we've only seen glimpse of it of the film, and it looks like Gunn knows what he's doing. I've seen james lied a few times, but I'll trust him with superman. I don't see it failing because it's Superman, if the previous superman films can succeed, so can this one. I also hate the toxic fued between both fanbases of Gunn and Snyder when they are truly decent friends in real life. I don't care who's more of a problem, both fanbases should calm down.
except no superman film has successful since 1980s
Gunn & Safran know what’s at stake. Nothing but faith.
it won't flop
James Gunn hasn't got a spotless record, and Superman isn't as bankable as Batman and Spiderman. This could at least underperform. MoS made around 600 million. Superman Legacy might do the same.
Yet some goofy ah captain marvel movie or black panther can make a billion, not a chance. Superman is 'the' superhero.
Dc is failing sadly😢 #ripdc
Man of steel wasn't relatable for audiences. It made all that money based on just action scenes. New superman could surpass it with same action and better character arcs.@aminingjatt007fromgothamci9
@@aminingjatt007fromgothamci9 one of them was between 2 avengers movies and the other was a decent movie but definitely was given overwhelmingly positive response for having a black director and mostly black artists.
You conveniently forgot about antman and even the Guardians for the most part.
DC is IMMORTAL
I feel more positive about the upcoming DCU than I do about the MCU at this point.
Everything Gunn has said about not doing more than 2 movies and 2 shows per year, and not letting a movie go into production until the script is locked in, is music to my ears.
And that's before you get to the stuff you touch on in this video about not being afraid of the source material, etc.
I trust in James Gunn’s vision.✊🏾😤
Gunn DEFINITELY loves comics. This man added Peacemaker into Suicide Squad. Who gave a damn about Peacemaker before The Suicide Squad? I mean, yeah, a few people knew who he was, since the Watchmen were based off of the Charlton characters (One of which being Peacemaker), but nobody really cared about him. Now you have fanart everywhere.
0:49 seconds in and you're already cooking 🔥🔥
The projects that he announced a while ago (both movies and series), at least, can't afford to fail. A LOT is riding on this, an ENTIRE BRAND! So if those projects can be a moderate to huge success will lead to good things and more projects being revealed and announced that people may love.
@@orhanamin1347 enough
James should bring some of the writers from Bruce Timm DCAU like Alsn Burnett or Paul Dini.
i have faith in gunn he himself said the shooting for his superman film have went smoothly and there will be no need for reshoots so the executives 100% gave him control and hopefully wont pressure him to change up stuff just for the sake of competing with marvel which was the thing that led dc into a shit situation in the first place
Batman is gonna be on public domain in a couple years
Yeah but they cant use his logo, gadgets, supporting cast or rogues gallery. Original Batman will enter public domain, not the modern Batman that everyone knows.
@@orhanamin1347 shut up
@@BaithNa can't use batman in titles or marketing either. trademarks indefinite renewel will keep batman a WBD property for a long time.
@@orhanamin1347how are you calling me a Snyder cultists when I hate most of his movies 😂😂😂
@@rorylumley4727 their a case that says a Trademark cannot be used to protect a Copyright, if anything, it'll be about time to see how it plays out
5:25 I feel like more synder bots need to wrap this concept around their tiny lil brains 💀
As a snyder fan i am exited
I have complete faith in the DCU. I believe James Gunn and Peter Safran will do wonders for DC. While I love Batman, there is more to DC than just him, and James Gunn can show that.
DCEU sucks because they tried too hard to mimic the MCU. Instead of trying to write great stories, they focus on being dark, edgy, and having big explosions and action scenes that are hard to follow. Wish they'd calm tf down and just adapt stories from the books.
That little snippet of Nick Hoult earnestly being like “Dude YOU are my Lex Luthor, hands down” is so fucking heartwarming. I really like Nick Hoult’s general public persona, like he seems very sweet and kind and funny, not to mention he’s been phenomenal in just about every single thing I have ever seen him in, from Skins UK to the X-Men franchise, to The Great. He’s so young but he’s really one of the great actors of our generation. He also works his ass off-dude is in SO many projects. Also shoutout to his portrayal of Nikola Tesla in The Current War, a very good film about Edison and Westinghouse’s race to electrify America and more specifically their competition for the contract of the World’s Fair in Chicago, and even though Tesla’s role is fairly small, I still think it’s one of the most accurate and respectful depictions of one of the most important meant who ever lived. 👏 I can’t wait to see him terrify as Lex Luthor. I have almost zero concern that he will deliver the type of Lex Performance we want. One with sauce. Nick will bring the sauce to the role.
Also: Gal Gadot? Not tall enough. Gimme a Wonder Woman who can look Superman in the eyes, heck gimme a Wonder Woman who looks like she could end me. I want someone maybe not quite as buff as like, Gina Carano (who could absolutely kill a man with her thighs, she is a hot ass muscle mommy but she’s not tall enough), but someone with more meat on their bones to show that they’re a warrior than Gal Gadot had. I want a comic-book Wonder Woman. An Amazon. Casting has to start at 6’. Don’t gimme no 5’10” woman in heels and expect me to believe she could take Superman in a fight. She’s a warrior! Give me buff WW!
superman seems to possibly be a lot of setup and be a feature lenght dcu trailer. Which might not be the best start and turn audiencies off right away.
@@orhanamin1347 so you don't think superman will be a dcu trailer or a poor start? The comment and hashtags don't match.
@@orhanamin1347love this energy. I agree with you, James Gunn will not bring on screen justice to dc characters. IT WILL BE A GIGANTIC BOX OFFICE FLOP AND ALL THE DC FANS CRYING WILL NOT GO SEE THE MOVIE.😂😂
If Superman flops, DC will finally be saved from Warner's dirty hands.
How?!
@@Emir_969 Lots of possibilities. But if they continue to suffer failures, there is a strong chance that they will stop producing DC live-action adaptations or/and sell the rights to a more competent studio.
@@Mandalor627I think they are too valuable rights to be just sold to another studio so the more likely scenario is that DC movies will be just dead if that movie flops.
@@Emir_969 Maybe. And it doesn't bother me, honestly. I'd rather that than continue to see DC become more cringe and cheesy.
They almost seem like parodies now🤦♂️
Amen
I NEED a Bat Fam movie!!!
Amen, brother.
Break it down into a trilogy and have them start young.
I trust the James gunn idea of this new cinematic universe
They are literally going to do what they did for the Tomorrowverse. The Flash rebooted the universe with a flashpoint, and S2 of peacemaker happens after the flashpoint. There is going to be a multiverse and they will do Crisis in Infinite earths.
James Gunn's leadership has a crucial opportunity to revitalize the DCU, but success hinges on effective management and making each project feel distinct. Each character should have unique tones and themes that fit their stories. For example, Swamp Thing should have a dark, mystical tone, Hal Jordan's Green Lantern should be an epic space opera, and The Flash (Barry Allen) should balance heart and humor with thrilling speedster action.
Audiences need to relate to and resonate with the characters throughout their journeys. It's essential for James Gunn’s DCU to take its time developing characters and building the world slowly, allowing audiences to form strong connections and genuinely care for them. Films should also impart meaningful lessons, like those in Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man trilogy, Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy, Logan, X-Men films, Unbreakable, Blade, Hulk, Daredevil (show and director's cut), Punisher films, and Superman films (including Man of Steel).
The MCU has become known for being formulaic, overusing jokes, and making characters quip excessively, which undercuts serious moments and makes characters feel too similar. Each MCU film often feels the same in tone, cinematography, and template. In contrast, the DCU should focus on compelling storytelling and character development, avoiding the pitfalls of copying the MCU's approach.
What can make the DCU more compelling is the potential for experimenting and innovative storytelling through Elseworlds. This approach is much needed in contemporary cinema for filmgoers and cinephiles. Taking risks with underrated characters and ensuring every film has a distinct theme and tone while still being part of a cohesive universe will be key.
If "Superman" succeeds, it will be due to respecting the source material and the audience, while learning from the early days of the MCU's success, particularly Phase 1, which was more creative and willing to take risks with characters and films. The goal should be to avoid cookie-cutter movies and instead deliver unique, engaging stories that stand out in today's cinematic landscape.
Was this written by Chat GPT? Lol
To your point on Batman and Superman ages. I think that Bruce Wayne should be around 37-38 years old. My fancast say Oliver Jackson cohen. He Got the acting chops, the look, and he’s 37 so Batman will only be about 5 years older than Superman. Now as for Batman having the 4 robins in his age this is how u do it.
Age 25: Batman year 1 sometime before year 1 age 25 Batman meets Talia in his early 20s and Damian is born.
Age 28: Batman meets and trains a 15 year old dick Grayson. And starts crime fighting with him for like 2 years.
Age 31: Bruce meeting a 14-15 year old jason todd shortly after dick Grayson now age 18 is now nightwing.
Age 33: the killing joke and death in the family. Barbara paralyzed and jason dies.
Age 35: Bruce meets Tim drake. Bruce refuses to make him robin after what happened to jason and Barbara. So instead he allows Tim to be the tech guy on the bat computer helping Bruce on missions basically the role that oracle has.
Age 37: brave and the bold Batman meets Damian. The batfamily goes catwoman, nightwing, batgirl, and Tim( not as robin but an honorary robin, makes it easier for the general audience).Dick is now in his mid 20s, Jason will be early 20s when he eventually comes back, Barbara around mid 20s, Tim is like 18, Selina around Bruce age maybe a little younger, Damian is 10-13 years old
Remember that you have to take into account when the movie is going to come out, it's to early to be fancasting. It's also easier to take a younger guy and just say he's older in the movie than to take an old guy and say he's younger in the movie
Tim could be Red Robin instead of an honorary Robin. Also, the Teen Titans need to fit in somewhere here as there's a film in the works. I think they should take from the DCAMU and make Dick Grayson and Koriand'r the same age (makes sense anyway), but I'm not sure if Tim or Damian will be part of it and the ages of the other members. Oh! Cyborg should be around the same age as Dick and Kori so that his shift into the Justice League makes sense.
Nothing Gunn announced got me excited. Doesn't sound like he wants to do a definitive version of the DC cinematic universe. Sounds like he's just using the universe as a aandbox to play in, but you can't build a cinematic universe off of mostly side/support characters.
Exactly. The first casting announcements should've been core DC characters: Green Lantern. WW. The Flash. Batman. Superman. I've been reading comics a long time. I haven't ever given a damn about "Mr. Terrific" lol. He's a D-list character at best.
@@amazingfantasy6315So were Hawkeye and black widow before the mcu.
Dc is failing me, we are all so disappointed with dc movies and shows. James Gunn doesn’t know how to write dc characters, this will be the tragic downfall of dc😖
@@MuthukrishnanBellie and they never got movies/shows until phase 4. They played supporting roles. They never became A-listers
@@BluuBarryAllen Gunn doesn't know how to write dc characters? Peacemaker and the suicide squad beg to differ fake dc fan
As a DC fan. I am praying this new universe will be a success.
Good vid bro. I came to some of the same conclusions you did.
If WBD set achievable box office targets, hopefully it'll be around for a while.
As for recasting, I like Ethan Peck for Batman and Camila Morrone for Wonder Woman... so far.
The biggest worry about the DCU is how many projects have been announced years in advance and, obviously, how much money has been invested. Superman literally has to make $1bn and above to be considered successful and that's a very tall order even if the movie is good
All I ask for in a Marvel/DC/Transformers movie etc is a Good and decent movie that can entertain me with great characters that feel authentic, compelling themes and even though I stopped read comics I'd like it to be accurate and use the source material.
All we want is good films back to back to back to back
@@orhanamin1347 shut up
While thay crossover would be cool and would be an instant billion dollar movies, those three IPs are owned by three different studios and they have no incentive to work together.
@@orhanamin1347literal child behavior
I think DC should’ve waited a little longer before dropping a new DCU movie-verse on us, but whatever.
Kinda skeptical about Gunn. He’s really at his best when writing for more obscure, comedic characters. This coupled with the fact that he’s bringing Tom King (probably best known for destroying Batman and Wally West’s Flash in comics) into the writing room and adapting his work, is an instant turn off (why King? Why not anyone else? Mark Waid or Tom Taylor maybe? Anyone but King.)
Yea I agree Jenson and Alan are too old for the role Batman, Brandon Skenlar is a good cast Batman he’s 6’2 and 32 currently and all James Gunn needs to do is take elements from the New 52 bat family Timeline, and adaptations don’t always copy and paste you can make Bruce start being Batman at age 23 to 24, I say Bruce should be around 35 in the movie brave and the bold.
Masterful breakdown and analysis. Just got a new sub
Doesn't that really make sense???
What sense does it make to fix Zach Snyders take ruined by corporate interference to then add more corporate interference with Warner /discovery
I am praying to allah that we get starman superman instead of the crappy edgelord snyder version.
4:46 "Meanwhile you have DC writers like Tom King...." Stop right there! That guy being involved is *NOT* an advantage!
Everyone is forgetting about LOBO. Jason gave it away twice. LOBO will save DC, period.
I'm optimistic for James Gunn's direction for a superhero universe. Even before he became a big director, he played around with superhero stories. He wrote a low-budget movie called The Specials which is a comedy about the sixth (or seventh) most popular superhero team in the world. He directed and wrote Super which is about a street crime level superhero. Both of them came before the big superhero wave, so I think the topic is a passion project for him.
WB executives on the other hand....
"SHE AINT YO GIRLFRIEND!" *throws punch*
The ultra popularity of marvel movies has permanently changed the averge publics perception of comic books and its honestly not been for the better
I got faith in Gunn. Dude hasn’t missed. Turning the suicide squad into a fantastic super hero movie was all I needed to see.
Ang giving us DA PEACEMAKER!
except financially he has missed his TSS underperformed, before you say Covid it sell undepreformed those metrics.
Peacemaker was underwhelming I just couldn’t care at all for his character at all. It’s not like gotg where you actually feel for them in every film. Peacemaker just feels irrelevant.
@@dro2k728 do you think marvel or dc is more popular?
Marvel is more popular with the general audience. I personally enjoy both equally.
they need to clutch up 😭😭😭
The Suicide squad (Gunn's version) is the best DCEU films to be fair.
THANKS man for pointing out that that is Graysons nightwing , nobody talks about that and they keep using that picture and saying Bruce Wayne and his son Damian it is driving me crazy😖