I wouldn't necessarily call this a "racing class" RC so much as something that kinda bridges the gap between the full racing platforms and entry-level RTRs. It's based on an older platform, but with both updates to take what was learned from more recent models and apply them as well as very intelligently applied cornercuts to reduce manufacturing costs without completely neutering handling or stability. It'll hold its own in a club race at most tracks, but don't expect it to win at IFMAR.
Really good starter buggies. Heard during the video that your from Phoenix. If you and your boy want to try a 1/10 scale track you have to bring them to Hobby Action. It's a great hobby store and race track. Good video
Hey there! We will definitely come to Hobby Action, my boys are itching to take them to the track. And yes, I think they are great entry level buggies, they have been awesome honestly. Thank you for the comment!
So, separate topic, some tuning suggestions... Biggest thing this car needs is _longer_ springs at the back, not necessarily harder, just longer. The reason this thing bottoms out in the rear so much is because the rear springs are too short and this is an uncharacteristic lack of attention to detail from Associated. Second thing would be to gear it a bit taller if you want some more speed, it's got the exact same gear ratio as the Pro2 SC10 which with the smaller tires results in less speed. It's already at the upper limit of its acceleration so the stock gearing is really just holding the car back. Finally, moving the front upper shock mounting position inward will greatly help with getting more steering and reducing the car's tendency to understeer on higher-bite surfaces.
These do look like real cool starter kits, but just curious, which buggy would you recommend that has more of a center to front motor weighted distribution on board? PLMK. Thank you for your video and your thoughts. Stay safe and continuing enjoying your time with your boys.
These are definitely entry level, rear mounted motor cars. I guess I would go for a Team Associated RC10B6X for a better handling experience. Thanks for the comments and support!
My kids are 9 and 6, these are their first proper rc cars and I feel like it was the right decision getting these lol. Now they want to go to the actual track. 🤣
Serpent: _releases an RTR racing buggy that's fully track-ready out of the box_ RC community: "It's crap" Associated: _releases an RTR "racing" buggy that needs quite a bit of setup work out of the box and is an all-plastic version of an older platform, that somehow also costs more than the one made by Serpent_ RC community: "Take my money!" Sorry, just... kinda venting. It really bothers me how the RC scene has become such a massive circle-jerk of a handful of popular brands, with everything else getting lumped into the same category of "off-brand garbage" as the Chinese drop-shipped "no-name" cars. Heck, I've even had someone tell me that XRAY was a "shitty off-brand" not too long ago. I'm actually glad Associated came out with this car and bringing back RTR buggies might help with getting people into racing (although it'd be better if they based them on _current_ platforms rather than older ones), I just wish the other options got some attention as well. I've seen a couple people cover the Yokomo RO-1 but far fewer than the RB10, and no one's gone over the SRX2 RTR.
I agree, 100% people are so biased. They won't give other brands a chance. It's funny how one person asks advice on which buggy to buy, and everyone trashes the cars that, in my opinion, are better made. Like the SRX8 for example, people only and always suggest kyosho for example and bash on the Serpent or others. I feel like most of them haven't even tried the cars they are talking trash about.
@@bustednutsrc These days I haven't even seen people recommending Kyosho. It's all Losi, Associated, Tekno or on rare occasions Mugen Seki that I've seen recommended in the 1/8th scale scene. On rare occasions I'll see a TLR Tuned ARRMA Typhon recommended, if the person asking wants to do a mix of racing and bashing - but then the Tekno fans come flooding in and claim that the TLR Typhon is "too heavy" when the EB48 is actually slightly heavier than it. Honestly, they probably _haven't_ tried any other cars. I... kinda understand why since kits themselves have gotten expensive as hell, but then they shouldn't act like they know the ins and outs of every single car. It's not even a new thing either. I remember when I first got my TEN-SCTE roller and took it on the track, a lot of the guys there told me I wasted my money and should have gotten an SC10 4x4, that it's THE dominant truck at that track and that my heavier shaft-driven truck was going to be slow and couldn't turn. My first race with the TEN-SCTE after getting some practice, I took home second. And the truck that beat me was a Durango, not an Associated.
My personal opinion, months after this conversation (lol) is that it’s hard to branch out too far in the RC world if you take parts into consideration. I could probably find every part I needed for the cars you mention eventually online, but for the comman brands (Losi, Traxxas, Associated, Aarma, etc) I can walk into my Hobbytown and more often than not walk back out with what I need. Add to that if I have any uncertainties there’s someone there to talk to without having to write an email as coherently as possible and then wait for a reply. So yeah, doesn’t make the “popular” brands better, just makes them easier to own.
@@Dirk_T_13 Thing is, the "only buy what's locally supported" mindset is what's created this problem in the first place. Two brands that got fucked hard by this were Kyosho and HPI. In Kyosho's case it's partially their fault since when they started self-distributing they required a ridiculous 10k minimum order, but with HPI the shutdown of a Taiwanese factory they relied on combined with getting sued by Traxxas over an O-ring caused them to fall into a death spiral that bankrupted them, and they're still struggling to claw their way back up to even a fraction of what they were before. Point is, that mindset creates a vicious cycle that's honestly hurting the hobby by chasing away smaller or more specialized brands. Heck, my closest LHS, Colonial Photo and Hobby, doesn't even carry Associated or Losi. I have to go down 50 to RC Hobbies or up OBT to Graves for that, or even for parts that are more or less universal for various racing platforms but happen to never be used on Traxxas or ARRMA vehicles, like pinion gears with a finer pitch than 32. The only way to break that cycle is to let people know what's out there and, well, not necessarily completely ditch the "buy what's locally supported" rule but treat it as a suggestion rather than set-in-stone dogma.
Totally agree, vicious cycle, unfortunately not sure what can get not only the manufacture’s attention but hobbyists as well to effect some change. Love the fact you mentioned Colonial, used to live off I-4 and would run up there mainly for model train stuff. Haven’t been in a couple decades, hope they are still doing well. But yeah, back to the topic … I may start branching out more with my RC choices, try to find some hidden gems and spread the word to others. Best I can do at the moment :)
Very cool you get your kids involved so young !
Thank you! Yeah they really enjoy it! 👍
I guess ill buy 2 of these. Never had a racing class RC so I guess I will start with the RB10. Thanks for the info.
Great choice, they are pretty nice cars.
I wouldn't necessarily call this a "racing class" RC so much as something that kinda bridges the gap between the full racing platforms and entry-level RTRs. It's based on an older platform, but with both updates to take what was learned from more recent models and apply them as well as very intelligently applied cornercuts to reduce manufacturing costs without completely neutering handling or stability. It'll hold its own in a club race at most tracks, but don't expect it to win at IFMAR.
Really good starter buggies. Heard during the video that your from Phoenix. If you and your boy want to try a 1/10 scale track you have to bring them to Hobby Action. It's a great hobby store and race track. Good video
Hey there! We will definitely come to Hobby Action, my boys are itching to take them to the track. And yes, I think they are great entry level buggies, they have been awesome honestly. Thank you for the comment!
So, separate topic, some tuning suggestions...
Biggest thing this car needs is _longer_ springs at the back, not necessarily harder, just longer. The reason this thing bottoms out in the rear so much is because the rear springs are too short and this is an uncharacteristic lack of attention to detail from Associated. Second thing would be to gear it a bit taller if you want some more speed, it's got the exact same gear ratio as the Pro2 SC10 which with the smaller tires results in less speed. It's already at the upper limit of its acceleration so the stock gearing is really just holding the car back. Finally, moving the front upper shock mounting position inward will greatly help with getting more steering and reducing the car's tendency to understeer on higher-bite surfaces.
These do look like real cool starter kits, but just curious, which buggy would you recommend that has more of a center to front motor weighted distribution on board? PLMK. Thank you for your video and your thoughts. Stay safe and continuing enjoying your time with your boys.
These are definitely entry level, rear mounted motor cars. I guess I would go for a Team Associated RC10B6X for a better handling experience. Thanks for the comments and support!
Quick Note: Not seeing them for $299 at LiquidRC. They're $399. Unless I'm missing something. PLMK. Thanks.
Hello, yeah, they have gone up in price in the last few months!
What ages are your children!? I want introduce mine to the hobby as well, asap! Thanks for the content! Good stuff!
My kids are 9 and 6, these are their first proper rc cars and I feel like it was the right decision getting these lol. Now they want to go to the actual track. 🤣
@@bustednutsrc thanks a lot!! Mines are still a bit younger but will for sure take this into account. Thanks for the answer and for the channel!!
@@victorgimenogranda8019 Absolutely! Thank you!
Serpent: _releases an RTR racing buggy that's fully track-ready out of the box_
RC community: "It's crap"
Associated: _releases an RTR "racing" buggy that needs quite a bit of setup work out of the box and is an all-plastic version of an older platform, that somehow also costs more than the one made by Serpent_
RC community: "Take my money!"
Sorry, just... kinda venting. It really bothers me how the RC scene has become such a massive circle-jerk of a handful of popular brands, with everything else getting lumped into the same category of "off-brand garbage" as the Chinese drop-shipped "no-name" cars. Heck, I've even had someone tell me that XRAY was a "shitty off-brand" not too long ago.
I'm actually glad Associated came out with this car and bringing back RTR buggies might help with getting people into racing (although it'd be better if they based them on _current_ platforms rather than older ones), I just wish the other options got some attention as well. I've seen a couple people cover the Yokomo RO-1 but far fewer than the RB10, and no one's gone over the SRX2 RTR.
I agree, 100% people are so biased. They won't give other brands a chance. It's funny how one person asks advice on which buggy to buy, and everyone trashes the cars that, in my opinion, are better made. Like the SRX8 for example, people only and always suggest kyosho for example and bash on the Serpent or others.
I feel like most of them haven't even tried the cars they are talking trash about.
@@bustednutsrc
These days I haven't even seen people recommending Kyosho. It's all Losi, Associated, Tekno or on rare occasions Mugen Seki that I've seen recommended in the 1/8th scale scene. On rare occasions I'll see a TLR Tuned ARRMA Typhon recommended, if the person asking wants to do a mix of racing and bashing - but then the Tekno fans come flooding in and claim that the TLR Typhon is "too heavy" when the EB48 is actually slightly heavier than it.
Honestly, they probably _haven't_ tried any other cars. I... kinda understand why since kits themselves have gotten expensive as hell, but then they shouldn't act like they know the ins and outs of every single car.
It's not even a new thing either. I remember when I first got my TEN-SCTE roller and took it on the track, a lot of the guys there told me I wasted my money and should have gotten an SC10 4x4, that it's THE dominant truck at that track and that my heavier shaft-driven truck was going to be slow and couldn't turn. My first race with the TEN-SCTE after getting some practice, I took home second. And the truck that beat me was a Durango, not an Associated.
My personal opinion, months after this conversation (lol) is that it’s hard to branch out too far in the RC world if you take parts into consideration. I could probably find every part I needed for the cars you mention eventually online, but for the comman brands (Losi, Traxxas, Associated, Aarma, etc) I can walk into my Hobbytown and more often than not walk back out with what I need. Add to that if I have any uncertainties there’s someone there to talk to without having to write an email as coherently as possible and then wait for a reply. So yeah, doesn’t make the “popular” brands better, just makes them easier to own.
@@Dirk_T_13
Thing is, the "only buy what's locally supported" mindset is what's created this problem in the first place. Two brands that got fucked hard by this were Kyosho and HPI. In Kyosho's case it's partially their fault since when they started self-distributing they required a ridiculous 10k minimum order, but with HPI the shutdown of a Taiwanese factory they relied on combined with getting sued by Traxxas over an O-ring caused them to fall into a death spiral that bankrupted them, and they're still struggling to claw their way back up to even a fraction of what they were before.
Point is, that mindset creates a vicious cycle that's honestly hurting the hobby by chasing away smaller or more specialized brands. Heck, my closest LHS, Colonial Photo and Hobby, doesn't even carry Associated or Losi. I have to go down 50 to RC Hobbies or up OBT to Graves for that, or even for parts that are more or less universal for various racing platforms but happen to never be used on Traxxas or ARRMA vehicles, like pinion gears with a finer pitch than 32. The only way to break that cycle is to let people know what's out there and, well, not necessarily completely ditch the "buy what's locally supported" rule but treat it as a suggestion rather than set-in-stone dogma.
Totally agree, vicious cycle, unfortunately not sure what can get not only the manufacture’s attention but hobbyists as well to effect some change. Love the fact you mentioned Colonial, used to live off I-4 and would run up there mainly for model train stuff. Haven’t been in a couple decades, hope they are still doing well. But yeah, back to the topic … I may start branching out more with my RC choices, try to find some hidden gems and spread the word to others. Best I can do at the moment :)