I'm late in adding my two cents but since hubby and I own hull 181 figured I'd go ahead with my thoughts. The negatives Nick and Therese mentioned are spot on. Husband and I are tall people (5'9" and 6'3") and can't see past the enclosure while seated at the helm. We're in the process of sourcing a new seating arrangement so any suggestions or comments would be much appreciated. The helm has no safety enclosure to the port side but we've rigged up lines when needed and the enclosure for the cockpit comes down separately to provide a bit of safety as well as wind protection too, so that is an issue we solved easily. I agree that the cushions are hard and uncomfortable, and we'll be replacing them before we set out in 2024. For now, we've made some memory foam pads to use where needed. We added memory foam toppers to the berths too, which makes sleeping so much better. The stock mattresses are just a bit better than plywood. The build quality is, agreed, production cat standard, but so far, three years in, it's in great shape with no twisting, misalignment, or peeling. We're very happy with the systems - the engines are stout, b&g gear works very well,etc. The stepped back mast and self tacking jib make short handed sailing super easy. The post in the middle of the salon disappears after a while. We removed the fixed bench inside and replaced it with two folding teak chairs that can be used inside or out, making the spacious salon even more spacious. I hate the oven. Seems most production cats have it. We already have the replacement. You're completely right, with main and jib it doesn't go anywhere fast, so we've added a gennaker which makes all the difference. We don't plan on being in a hurry when we sail :). I think if you buy a production cat you're compromising in some places and you're going to have to do some mods to make it your own, and we feel that having started with the 42 was a good place to start. Oh! Forgot to mention the handholds. They work well for us AND they work for short visitors, who will not be going forward in inclement weather.
Laurie, if you haven't stumbled upon it yet look up the Lagoon 42 Facebook group. It has a ton of useful information and pictures of helm seat upgrades. Some folks are using the Taco Marine bench seat. Others are now installing the seat that came with the Lagoon 46 - new L42s are coming with this new seat so it seems that Lagoon listened to the prior owners.
We own a Lagoon 42. It is about 2 years old now. We sailed her from Portsmouth, VA to the Bahamas last November and returned this past week. We added grab rails to the cockpit roof as you go up the stairs - both port and stbd. We also added the washer/dryer combo in the owners hull cabinets before entering the head. Another great addition was the Code 0. On our return trip from the Bahamas we hit 14 knots and consistently held 10+ knots with a beam reach and Code 0. So far, we are very pleased with the boat - we also sponsor a Sea Scout Ship and usually have 10 or more scouts and adults on board when we do our weekend sails around the lower Chesapeake Bay. She has plenty of space!
As a future L42 owner (mine arriving in June 2022) 1. What does the standard helm Bimini look like ? Do I need the the reinforced composite Bimini ? What is the original one made of ? 2. What does the B&G navigation pack that comes with the essential equipment configuration consist of exactly ? Nothing in the lagoon website explains these issues. Thanks in advance Hatem A Tawfik, MD Cairo Egypt
@@hatemtawfik Check out the Lagoon 42 Facebook group. It is very active and has all the answers to your question and more! It is a private group so you will need to ask to join. Good luck! The only bimini's I have personally seen are the hard ones. Seems to be the most common. We like ours as you can get on top of it to gain access to the top of the sail bag.
I just wanted to say thank you for doing these videos. I know they are time consuming and difficult to do. I don’t get to comment much on your videos because if my strokes it hard to type “my fingers don’t always do what my brain tell them to do” on that note stay safe and enjoy your life and the time you have together. Love you guys, Dave
My husband and I own a 2019 Lagoon 42, Ocean Song. In general we think your review is spot on! We agree about both the integrated grab rail and helm seat height. We've modified our helm seat to raise it 6 inches and we added a fold-down platform (8 inches high) so that even a relatively short person will have a good view of both bows while sitting or standing. We plan to add stainless handholds along the cabin top. We've also added a hand hold just behind the helm seat along the bimini top as one goes down the stairs from the helm to the cockpit. I would give the 42 a slightly higher performance grade, at least a 6. Part of performance to us is ease of sailing. The 42 is easier for us to sail than our old Catalina 30. For a cruising couple it's hard for me to image a catamaran that is more easily handled than the Lagoon 42. All controls are at the helm and all the sails are easy to hoist and reefing is a "breeze". We have two electric winches at the helm. Again, excellent review! Linda and Jim Woodall
@@freduk5342 With two engines she can spin on a dime. We don't use the wheel in tight quarters, but rather the engine throttles. So in that respect it is easier to manoeuvre the boat in tight quarters vs a 42 foot monohull. It is quite beamy at 25ft., so being able to see all 4 corners is important. I tell people, when they say "that's a big boat" all boats feel small on the ocean and big in the marina! Cheers!
Great job on the review! In fact, the best I have ever seen with your rating system and graphics. You guys could make a living off this!!! Hahaha I look forward to more! Thanks :)
What a great review, love your methodology. Really looking forward to further reviews. We have been boating for over twenty years and currently have our latest Princess in Denia (Spain), but looking to make our transition into sailing catamarans for the next exciting stage of our life. So the timing of your current review series is perfect for us. Obviously have been looking at all the catamaran and sailing reviews I can find. But following on from your original style and professional format of past series being incorporated into this boat review process is a breath of fresh air. Have been following you guys for a while now and find your channel to be one of the best for all round knowledge, entertainment and honestly. Keep up the great work. Best regards Steve & Amanda
Absolutely the best boat review I have seen. While I am not currently in the market, I really appreciate your time and effort on this video. Up until this point, almost all of hte reviews I have seen are by sales people or people that have already decided which boat they want and so are a little partisan. Also, the professionalism you two have is quite good. I am eagerly awaiting further reviews - just for the shear fun of it!
Right then. Marvelous job guys. Your going to be tackling lots of emotions around here, but I enjoyed very much the partiality in your analysis. Job well done. Keep them coming!
I really enjoyed that very well thought out and organized product review. I’m looking forward to the rest in the series. As always your videos are anticipated weekly. 😎👍🏻
We own a 2017 model 42. Sailed Lagoon for decades so it’s difficult not to be somewhat bias. But when it came to purchase the changes made by Lagoon moving mast back made huge difference for vessel response when tacking; in addition all controls to helm; ease in reefing main is why we own the 42. I am 64 years old and know I can handle this vessel alone with total confidence. Only one requirement you must have the bow sprint for a utility sail to improve cruising performance. We fitted a UPS sail and that changed the game for us and made this vessel a 10 for handling a CRUISING vessel. (we were not in the market for a performance vessel). In correct conditions we can get upwards 60% of wind speed. Lastly living aboard comfort is a 10 on the 42. We did not want to feel like we were camping. Boarding, ease to helm and one level cockpit and salon matter. Enough fridge, storage and ample room for 6 people at the table. Secure arrangement for fixing food while under way. And I appreciate the thin cockpit cushions. So easy to stack when we hose down cockpit.
In agreement with the other comments. This is by far the best/well organized system to review these yachts considering how subjective these decisions can be. Well done!!!
We chartered one of these in the Exumas for a week and were pleasantly surprised with it. I really like this review as it focuses on so many practical considerations based on your experience. A lot of things I wouldn't think about. Thanks guys.
a few things come to mind...1) include dealer and manufacturers warranty/service and world wide support availability as a parameter 2) if Lagoon doesn't offer a handrail it would be easy to add a aftermarket item...3) the channel system seems to be ideal for a rain water catch deal.....all in all a great revue and breakdown ..i look forward to the rest of your search
I have a Lagoon 42. 2018, Hull #171. S/V Ocean Potion. I loved your review. First thing I did was put handholds all over. I could have planned better if I knew I was going to put so many. But after the first couple, I added more, then more! I used several of the 24” in stock at West marine. I also ordered some 36” on line. On the coach roof behind the helm station and the starboard side above the winch and stairs along the coach roof. I then basically added more all along the coach roof so you don’t use their crummy hand hold at all. I also added one on each stairway, the port side being a 12”. My friend also built me a teak footstool in two pieces and clamp together. It raises about 6”. I have not gotten around to taking the seat pad off the helm station and replacing with one the will raise the height. I love the davids, some people don’t? I fit a Zar 12’ Mini with a 25hp Suzuki. Single line goes straight to the winch ! I also had solar added above the davits and that protects the dingy. They built an aluminum rail system and also used supports to the David poles for support. . I also replaced with Lithium batteries and to complete the system, a Victron 3,000 inverter/charger. The Victron quarto 5000 would only fit in the engine compartment and I didn’t want it there. I am so pleased with the system! I have been a lone time boater but mostly planning hulls. This is my first new boat and my first sailboat! I am recently retired and we left Kemah,Texas on March 1. We are in Marathon, Florida where the upgrades have been made. We will no go to the Bahamas and start our adventure. I have been following for a long time. Love you guys!
Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose I would give a totally biased opinion! I love my boat. I have bonded. It is built to a certain price point. And thank God or I could not get one! But I will see what I can do. Thanks for all you do.
Excellent . So glad your doing this . It is a great service your doing for all of us. Your lay out and presentation is perfect. Glad your not rushing it.. The reviews should all be linked by themselves. Maybe outremer will make you a deal like La Vagabinde. Any of them should as you will be a great representative.
Great video guys. Really looking forward to the rest. I've been on1 ur 2 Lagoons and I generally use them as my bench mark for judging other cats I see
Love your well thought out scoring and review system, finally something really well thought out compared to many other youtube reviewers :) Keep it up! Looking forward to all the other reviews!
Being vertically challenged myself these things can be fixed ,I’m sure lagoon would put had rails where you want them and cushions or a box will work for the seat,great video lovely boat very excited for you guys
A just spoke with someone who bought a 2014 lagoon 42 and loves it. For me doing what you want to do coming off a safe monohull I would think a lighter 40ft with less cost ??,, more speed and easier handling at dockage will give you everything u need. Good luck
Not sure if this a safety issue or not, but ships wheelhouse windows are never vertical this is to avoid reflection interfering with visibility out. I know its a trademark of Lgoon to have the vertical windows but it may compromise your view out especially in the evening or conning from inside whilst under way. On ships the regulations state the windows should be raked not less than 10 degrees or more than 25 degrees to avoid reflection.
built to a price point for sure, but also built to be used and abused in charter with minimal warranty issues. There's a sweet spot in that sector of the market and these guys have clearly been honing in on that.
Great review! From what I can tell the scoring is quit fair. We reviewed it and came up with 29(I think). Thanks for what you guys do. This is such great info.
Thanks my friend. The open vote was the best way we could think to get a better overall average from the categories (which were also chosen with the help of our Facebook page poll)
Well i said it before and i'll say it again - what a great video , informative and tight , just on point ! I think this catamaran is great for charter , but not for cruising . And the video editing is just great ! You put some real work in it ! I can't wait to see the next video ! P.s. Do you guys consider buying a second hand cat ? 2-3 years old maybe ? Because i heard somewhere that sometime 2-3 years old boat is better because you will skip all the adjustments that a new cat will need after some sailing time . Sorry for my english ! Cheers ! :)
Hey mate, Absolutely we would look at a used model. It would fit into our budget better, the problems are ironed out and it will be set up for the cruising we want to do.
That overhang on the roof will keep your windows shaded at all times in the saloon. That will lower the temperature inside for free. I think that's important in the kind of places you guys sail. Also, vertical windows means a larger space (volume) inside.
This was a very informative video and if I were shopping for a Sailboat or a Catamaran I would feel very comfortable using your opinions and details that you presented on evaluating a vessel. It was also to me how Terysa was more critical of some items than Nick was or maybe it was just how you were presenting the information.
...wanted to add to my previous comment. PLEASE elaborate more on the after market options that you would choose to add to the catemeran. I'm assuming some of those are; water maker, solar, dinghy...etc...??? Would be great to see what skilled and knowledgable cruisers like yourself choose as "add ons". Thanx!!! Cheers from Denver Colorado USA
Very well presented! Supposedly, you have checked under the floors? The through hull fittings and piping, cables conduits, used waters management, and all many details owners sometimes get crazy finding out how things are done. Would like to see your review of a Catana 43 and 47, why not Bali 43. Fair winds and calm seas
28/50 for me. Great Fair Review. Scoring every aspect is a good way to organise one's thoughts but at the end of the day there are only 2 important questions 1) Will she look after you in a storm 2) How does she make you feel. For me, I love the interior and I know from Catamaran Impi Channel that she can handle massive storms and that build quality is great. But I would not be able to get around the the inferior performance (especially sailing upwind) because motoring in a cat into an coming sea is not fun as they tend to hobby-horse - so if you can sail upwind it would make a difference to me. I do hope there is a Catana Review. My score is 28/50 on the Lagoon
Good review but I was surprised you didn't talk about the design decision to move the mast step aft and put a compression post in the middle of the salon so the boat can accommodate a big self tacking headsail. A lot of folks also add a code zero to improve light wind performance...
Well done, the best review of a boat I have seen. I liked the size of this boat, and I do think it is the sweet spot for couples that have visitors on occasion. When I looked Lagoon last year I also looked at used ones and I was not impressed with wear and tear of two year old boats, but still agree ok for the money.
Only just got round to watching this. Boat aside, congratulations on devising and presenting a simple but valid method of measurement. I found this very logical and easy to understand. I’m a boating novice by your standards, looking for our first boat and hopefully live-aboard in one hit. We were at the Southampton boat show last year and struggled to rationalise the differences, pro’s and con’s and value for money across a range of (at the time) monohull boats. Having gained more experience and knowledge, we are now considering Catamarans as the long term solution. So This review series has come just at the right time for us. We will be back at Southampton this year. Are we allowed to use your method for our own purposes? Or is this a copyright thing? Fully understand if so. Anyway, well done. Looking forward to the rest of the series. Maybe we’ll buy you a beer one day somewhere. 😀 👍
Hey mate, use it by all means. We even have an app for you to use to rate the boats yourself. See the link below. Just credit us, if you use it for media. The more votes we get, the more valid the scores will be.
Thank you. The scoring was devised and refined by everyone who contributed on Facebook and Patreon. The idea was to create a system that would be important to as many people as possible.
That was a great review. If you were looking to buy a new catamaran then this type of review is the best I've seen. Maybe you have stumbled on a new venture?
Excellent review. I hope to retire soon and the Lagoon 42 is on my short list. I also like the Lagoon 400 which may be interesting for you to look at. There are a couple of slightly different versions, one with rounded furnishings and one with 90 degree sharp edge furnishings.
@@sailingrubyrose I feel the same way as you do about the 40 being too small and the 46 being too big for me. The 400 fits a sweet spot for me and is more in my price range.
Nicely done!! Very impressive video! For some reason I thought the cats were far more expensive. I’m a power boat guy but use to sail smaller boats when we were kids. I know motor/diesel. Wish we can all get along...lol! It’s all educate! Anyway.... the wife and I are planning on taking off in 2-3 years and cruising the Bahamas, Caribbean and to south america countries. I will be in my early sixties...damn that sounds old! and wondering how much work it really is to sail. I know they have come along way. But also the upkeep/ maintenance compared to a power boat. That Lagoon is ABSALUTELY GORGEOUS!!!! With a sh*t ton of room! We were lookin at power cats but they’re not as sexy and don’t look as big! Anyway can’t wait to see what u end up with ! I’m excited for you guys!!
We are also looking for the perfect catamaran. And we were also in port grande motte :-) For us it is currently fountain pajot or bali. We do not like the mast standing in the middle of the living room. fp and bali have solved this better. thanks for the review, looking forward to seeing more reviews!
We have the FP review out in a few weeks. I’m not going to give away any spoilers unless you are going to put money down before the review is out. In that case, e mail me and I’ll run through some stuff.
If this is a true example/representation of your series on Catamarans to follow? then i can safely say these are the best I've seen on TH-cam - great effort guys. Does this boat come with Lithium Batteries?
I would find a Lagoon 440 used of course. They are a pretty updated design and you can find them at an affordable price, many already outfitted for blue water cruising.
Great, honest review. My wife and I are basically shopping for the same type of boat. I can wait to get her to Annapolis so she can step foot on these great catamarans. My short list is the FP 40, Lagoon 42, Leopard 40 and Seawind 1260.
Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose the Seawind 1260 is actually at the top of my list for a couple reasons. I do like the dual helms, and they are protected from the elements. I also like the galley down setup. There is less freeboard on the 1260 compared to all the other production boats but I would think there would be less windage at anchorages. Might make it easier maneuvering in close quarters. Of course the Seawind is like finding a unicorn in the USA so I can’t wait to see the Seawind in person.
I have a lagoon 42 OV. I looked for 2 years for the right cat, the 42 was the one. Upgraded to the 57 HP motors, LPo battery bank, better cushions, B and G all way around. The only downside I have is the galley sink needs to have a barrier on the back side to protect the sliding windows. Forgot the seat, yes too short. Our shorter crew sat/lounged up on the ledge just inside the bimini like cats on their watch, tethered in! I would love to see how you would fix this, my quick option is to buy a large thick cushion.Good luck!
As a future L42 owner (mine arriving in June 2022) 1. What does the standard helm Bimini look like ? Do I need the the reinforced bimini ? What is the original one made of ? 2. What does the B&G navigation pack that comes with the essential equipment configuration consist of exactly ? Nothing in the lagoon website explains these issues.
Sailing Starship sail one of these - after watching your tour I watched theirs and really like the yacht. Other than the Cockpit seat everything seemed to be in a good place and work very well - check them out as they just completed an Atlantic crossing a month ago and have been onboard the yacht since last July.
Love these videos guys! I doubt I'll ever own a boat, but one can dream! These are a wealth of info that, should my dream become a possibility, these are extremely helpful! The only thing I'll say about this vessel is that I thought it should deserve a slightly higher mark for the interior design (a 7 as opposed to the 6). I understand the cushion issue is important, but I think the 3 hatches in the cabins, as well as the rounded corners, and fairly large berths, should've earned her a 7. Yes, the kitchen was slightly smaller, but the storage space, especially in the master hull, is fantastic! Of course, that's just my opinion... Cheers from Toronto!
Great job, I really like the layout of this review. I’m really looking forward to this series. I would like to offer a little constructive criticism.... the voiceover audio was not good, it seem to have a little buzzing in the back ground; however when Nic did the voice over for the price of the boat, the audio seemed much better(different mic 🎙 or recording location) Just food for thought and like I said, I’m really looking forward to watching the future videos!
Your vids are great and couldn't be more timely as I'm in the same process between Lagoon, Leopard, Fountaine Pajot,...and now looking seriously at the Nautitech Open class because I just don't like flybridges on any boat for that matter. Thoughts?
@@sailingrubyrose Thank you, no $ down any time soon. expect the process to take at least a year and appreciate all the due diligence on your part. Cheers
We noticed the handrail on the 46 at the Miami boat show. I immediately thought of the Xquisite that we also looked at there and how it was used as a water catchment system. Sure enough, there is an aftermarket kit to turn those handrails into a water catchment system.
On the last scene, I noticed Nick sitting at the edge of the sofa with his elbow on the navigation table. It brought to my attention the fact that the navigation table does not have dedicated sitting arrangements making it uncomfortable to work at the table without a backrest. The other issues such as the helm seat and the handrails are easy to solve even after purchase but the problem with the navigation table would require a major redesign of both the table and the sofa. No mention was made of the access from the deck to the mast base for dealing with the mainsail and the quality of the rigging and tackle in regards to ocean crossing environment. As of now, to me, this looks like a Mediterranean or Caribbean short distance cruiser Otherwise, good review.
For me and Sheila the best catamaran in La Grande Mott 2019. We are doing our researches using the same criteria as you. Good luck and greetings from Brazil.
I'm late in adding my two cents but since hubby and I own hull 181 figured I'd go ahead with my thoughts. The negatives Nick and Therese mentioned are spot on. Husband and I are tall people (5'9" and 6'3") and can't see past the enclosure while seated at the helm. We're in the process of sourcing a new seating arrangement so any suggestions or comments would be much appreciated. The helm has no safety enclosure to the port side but we've rigged up lines when needed and the enclosure for the cockpit comes down separately to provide a bit of safety as well as wind protection too, so that is an issue we solved easily. I agree that the cushions are hard and uncomfortable, and we'll be replacing them before we set out in 2024. For now, we've made some memory foam pads to use where needed. We added memory foam toppers to the berths too, which makes sleeping so much better. The stock mattresses are just a bit better than plywood. The build quality is, agreed, production cat standard, but so far, three years in, it's in great shape with no twisting, misalignment, or peeling. We're very happy with the systems - the engines are stout, b&g gear works very well,etc. The stepped back mast and self tacking jib make short handed sailing super easy. The post in the middle of the salon disappears after a while. We removed the fixed bench inside and replaced it with two folding teak chairs that can be used inside or out, making the spacious salon even more spacious. I hate the oven. Seems most production cats have it. We already have the replacement. You're completely right, with main and jib it doesn't go anywhere fast, so we've added a gennaker which makes all the difference. We don't plan on being in a hurry when we sail :). I think if you buy a production cat you're compromising in some places and you're going to have to do some mods to make it your own, and we feel that having started with the 42 was a good place to start. Oh! Forgot to mention the handholds. They work well for us AND they work for short visitors, who will not be going forward in inclement weather.
This is the sort of amazing comment we love! People adding their own experiences based on ownership. Thank you
Laurie, if you haven't stumbled upon it yet look up the Lagoon 42 Facebook group. It has a ton of useful information and pictures of helm seat upgrades. Some folks are using the Taco Marine bench seat. Others are now installing the seat that came with the Lagoon 46 - new L42s are coming with this new seat so it seems that Lagoon listened to the prior owners.
Release Marine
Hands down the best catamaran review I have seen on TH-cam. I look forward to the rest of the series!
We own a Lagoon 42. It is about 2 years old now. We sailed her from Portsmouth, VA to the Bahamas last November and returned this past week. We added grab rails to the cockpit roof as you go up the stairs - both port and stbd. We also added the washer/dryer combo in the owners hull cabinets before entering the head. Another great addition was the Code 0. On our return trip from the Bahamas we hit 14 knots and consistently held 10+ knots with a beam reach and Code 0. So far, we are very pleased with the boat - we also sponsor a Sea Scout Ship and usually have 10 or more scouts and adults on board when we do our weekend sails around the lower Chesapeake Bay. She has plenty of space!
As a future L42 owner (mine arriving in June 2022)
1. What does the standard helm Bimini look like ? Do I need the the reinforced composite Bimini ? What is the original one made of ?
2. What does the B&G navigation pack that comes with the essential equipment configuration consist of exactly ?
Nothing in the lagoon website explains these issues.
Thanks in advance
Hatem A Tawfik, MD
Cairo Egypt
@@hatemtawfik Check out the Lagoon 42 Facebook group. It is very active and has all the answers to your question and more! It is a private group so you will need to ask to join. Good luck! The only bimini's I have personally seen are the hard ones. Seems to be the most common. We like ours as you can get on top of it to gain access to the top of the sail bag.
I just wanted to say thank you for doing these videos. I know they are time consuming and difficult to do. I don’t get to comment much on your videos because if my strokes it hard to type “my fingers don’t always do what my brain tell them to do” on that note stay safe and enjoy your life and the time you have together. Love you guys,
Dave
Glad you enjoyed it my friend. Fair winds
My husband and I own a 2019 Lagoon 42, Ocean Song. In general we think your review is spot on! We agree about both the integrated grab rail and helm seat height. We've modified our helm seat to raise it 6 inches and we added a fold-down platform (8 inches high) so that even a relatively short person will have a good view of both bows while sitting or standing. We plan to add stainless handholds along the cabin top. We've also added a hand hold just behind the helm seat along the bimini top as one goes down the stairs from the helm to the cockpit.
I would give the 42 a slightly higher performance grade, at least a 6. Part of performance to us is ease of sailing. The 42 is easier for us to sail than our old Catalina 30. For a cruising couple it's hard for me to image a catamaran that is more easily handled than the Lagoon 42. All controls are at the helm and all the sails are easy to hoist and reefing is a "breeze". We have two electric winches at the helm.
Again, excellent review!
Linda and Jim Woodall
Thanks so much. Glad you enjoy your l42
Very interesting. Do you find marina manoeuvring not too overwhelming? Esp. versus monohull.
@@freduk5342 With two engines she can spin on a dime. We don't use the wheel in tight quarters, but rather the engine throttles. So in that respect it is easier to manoeuvre the boat in tight quarters vs a 42 foot monohull. It is quite beamy at 25ft., so being able to see all 4 corners is important. I tell people, when they say "that's a big boat" all boats feel small on the ocean and big in the marina! Cheers!
Great job on the review! In fact, the best I have ever seen with your rating system and graphics. You guys could make a living off this!!! Hahaha I look forward to more! Thanks :)
What a great review, love your methodology. Really looking forward to further reviews.
We have been boating for over twenty years and currently have our latest Princess in Denia (Spain), but looking to make our transition into sailing catamarans for the next exciting stage of our life. So the timing of your current review series is perfect for us. Obviously have been looking at all the catamaran and sailing reviews I can find. But following on from your original style and professional format of past series being incorporated into this boat review process is a breath of fresh air.
Have been following you guys for a while now and find your channel to be one of the best for all round knowledge, entertainment and honestly.
Keep up the great work.
Best regards
Steve & Amanda
Thanks so much mate. Glad you like the review system.
Thank you for the effort, objectivity and professionalism you invested in this series. hands down the best cat reviews on the web.
Thanks mate, loads more to come
That was the best review of a cat I have seen yet. Thanks for the information and the addon price sheet. Cheers and as always, safe passage.
Absolutely the best boat review I have seen. While I am not currently in the market, I really appreciate your time and effort on this video. Up until this point, almost all of hte reviews I have seen are by sales people or people that have already decided which boat they want and so are a little partisan. Also, the professionalism you two have is quite good. I am eagerly awaiting further reviews - just for the shear fun of it!
Cheers mate, appreciate the comment. We have no idea what we want. There are some amazing boats we have reviewed and a few shockers.
Right then. Marvelous job guys. Your going to be tackling lots of emotions around here, but I enjoyed very much the partiality in your analysis. Job well done. Keep them coming!
Excellent start to what I`m sure will be a great series! Well done you two, take last Wednesday afternoon off ;)
Excellent video and excellent review. Your critiques were fair and the videography was spot on. Great job (as always)!
Cheers mate
I really enjoyed that very well thought out and organized product review. I’m looking forward to the rest in the series. As always your videos are anticipated weekly. 😎👍🏻
This Landlubber is totally enjoying your series. I'm learning so much! Keep up the good work. Thanks.
Glad to have you hear my friend
This is a fantastic review and spot on in every area of the 42.
This is the definition of "valuable content." Thanks! I'm very much looking forward to the following reviews.
Thanks mate
We own a 2017 model 42. Sailed Lagoon for decades so it’s difficult not to be somewhat bias. But when it came to purchase the changes made by Lagoon moving mast back made huge difference for vessel response when tacking; in addition all controls to helm; ease in reefing main is why we own the 42. I am 64 years old and know I can handle this vessel alone with total confidence. Only one requirement you must have the bow sprint for a utility sail to improve cruising performance. We fitted a UPS sail and that changed the game for us and made this vessel a 10 for handling a CRUISING vessel. (we were not in the market for a performance vessel). In correct conditions we can get upwards 60% of wind speed. Lastly living aboard comfort is a 10 on the 42. We did not want to feel like we were camping. Boarding, ease to helm and one level cockpit and salon matter. Enough fridge, storage and ample room for 6 people at the table. Secure arrangement for fixing food while under way. And I appreciate the thin cockpit cushions. So easy to stack when we hose down cockpit.
In agreement with the other comments. This is by far the best/well organized system to review these yachts considering how subjective these decisions can be. Well done!!!
Cheers my friend.
We chartered one of these in the Exumas for a week and were pleasantly surprised with it. I really like this review as it focuses on so many practical considerations based on your experience. A lot of things I wouldn't think about. Thanks guys.
This was the best boat tour and review I have seen. Y'all did a brilliant job, very thorough. Good luck on your hunt for a new home.
Cheers my friend
Excellent review and great graphics. Your skills have come a long way.
a few things come to mind...1) include dealer and manufacturers warranty/service and world wide support availability as a parameter 2) if Lagoon doesn't offer a handrail it would be easy to add a aftermarket item...3) the channel system seems to be ideal for a rain water catch deal.....all in all a great revue and breakdown ..i look forward to the rest of your search
Oh man..... what a great video, by far the best boat review on TH-cam
Brilliant...Probably the best review I’ve seen in youtube...looking forward for the other ones...great job...👏👏👏👍👍👍⛵️⛵️⛵️
Thanks my friend, we have lots more to come
I have a Lagoon 42. 2018, Hull #171. S/V Ocean Potion. I loved your review. First thing I did was put handholds all over. I could have planned better if I knew I was going to put so many. But after the first couple, I added more, then more! I used several of the 24” in stock at West marine. I also ordered some 36” on line. On the coach roof behind the helm station and the starboard side above the winch and stairs along the coach roof. I then basically added more all along the coach roof so you don’t use their crummy hand hold at all. I also added one on each stairway, the port side being a 12”. My friend also built me a teak footstool in two pieces and clamp together. It raises about 6”. I have not gotten around to taking the seat pad off the helm station and replacing with one the will raise the height. I love the davids, some people don’t? I fit a Zar 12’ Mini with a 25hp Suzuki. Single line goes straight to the winch ! I also had solar added above the davits and that protects the dingy. They built an aluminum rail system and also used supports to the David poles for support. . I also replaced with Lithium batteries and to complete the system, a Victron 3,000 inverter/charger. The Victron quarto 5000 would only fit in the engine compartment and I didn’t want it there. I am so pleased with the system!
I have been a lone time boater but mostly planning hulls. This is my first new boat and my first sailboat! I am recently retired and we left Kemah,Texas on March 1. We are in Marathon, Florida where the upgrades have been made. We will no go to the Bahamas and start our adventure. I have been following for a long time. Love you guys!
Thanks my friend. Good info re your modifications. As an owner, would you mind logging your score on our app? The link is in the description.
What Lithium Batteries did you get? Did they stow in the space between the fuel tank and the drawer under the aft beds?
Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose I would give a totally biased opinion! I love my boat. I have bonded. It is built to a certain price point. And thank God or I could not get one!
But I will see what I can do.
Thanks for all you do.
DSC Y I got Dragonfly Batteries. 800 amp hours fit exactly where there 480 amp hour gel batteries were. No modifications necessary.
Re-watching a few in this series. Probably the best done review and comparison series.
Ah thanks Roger. With no boat shows for a while this series is getting a second wind.
Best boat review I’ve seen. Straight forward, to the point and honest. Keep it up. This could be your niche.
Excellent review. I found your video to be quite complete and very thorough. Can't wait to see what you and Teresa wind up with. Carry on mate.
Cheers mate
Truly excellent reviews. Love the structure. Subscribed.
Thanks my friend. Welcome
Love your informative videos, esp the safety focus which not many people talk about.
I love the way you have set up this series. I love your perspective as experienced cruisers and I love the scoring. Thank you :)
Cheers mate
Well done. Best review I have seen on the L42 so far.
Excellent . So glad your doing this . It is a great service your doing for all of us. Your lay out and presentation is perfect. Glad your not rushing it.. The reviews should all be linked by themselves. Maybe outremer will make you a deal like La Vagabinde. Any of them should as you will be a great representative.
These videos are going to be great! Can't wait for the next ones!!
Great video guys. Really looking forward to the rest. I've been on1 ur 2 Lagoons and I generally use them as my bench mark for judging other cats I see
Excellent reviews guys. I came across you through GWTW. Very impressed with the review. Looking forward to more to come.
Love your well thought out scoring and review system, finally something really well thought out compared to many other youtube reviewers :) Keep it up! Looking forward to all the other reviews!
Enjoyed your watching your visit with the Wynn’s on Curiosity and your discussion on the great catamaran versus monohull debate.
Fantastic review! This is how it should be done...hurry up and drop the next one!
Wow! Well Done! Its all greek to me and I still enjoyed this. Can't wait to see the whole series and the final decision.
Being vertically challenged myself these things can be fixed ,I’m sure lagoon would put had rails where you want them and cushions or a box will work for the seat,great video lovely boat very excited for you guys
A just spoke with someone who bought a 2014 lagoon 42 and loves it. For me doing what you want to do coming off a safe monohull I would think a lighter 40ft with less cost ??,, more speed and easier handling at dockage will give you everything u need. Good luck
Outstanding, your credibility is paramount and glistens in this review as I know it will do in future reviews.
Not sure if this a safety issue or not, but ships wheelhouse windows are never vertical this is to avoid reflection interfering with visibility out. I know its a trademark of Lgoon to have the vertical windows but it may compromise your view out especially in the evening or conning from inside whilst under way. On ships the regulations state the windows should be raked not less than 10 degrees or more than 25 degrees to avoid reflection.
built to a price point for sure, but also built to be used and abused in charter with minimal warranty issues. There's a sweet spot in that sector of the market and these guys have clearly been honing in on that.
Great review! From what I can tell the scoring is quit fair. We reviewed it and came up with 29(I think). Thanks for what you guys do. This is such great info.
thanks for the great review!
you have a very interesting approach, especially when letting the crowd vote too. Im very curious to the next reviews!
Thanks my friend. The open vote was the best way we could think to get a better overall average from the categories (which were also chosen with the help of our Facebook page poll)
Thorough analysis! Glad you both are picky. I learned quite a bit.
Well i said it before and i'll say it again - what a great video , informative and tight , just on point ! I think this catamaran is great for charter , but not for cruising . And the video editing is just great ! You put some real work in it ! I can't wait to see the next video !
P.s. Do you guys consider buying a second hand cat ? 2-3 years old maybe ? Because i heard somewhere that sometime 2-3 years old boat is better because you will skip all the adjustments that a new cat will need after some sailing time .
Sorry for my english !
Cheers ! :)
Hey mate,
Absolutely we would look at a used model. It would fit into our budget better, the problems are ironed out and it will be set up for the cruising we want to do.
an absolutely AMAZING review. well done! best cat review ive seen on you tube!
That overhang on the roof will keep your windows shaded at all times in the saloon. That will lower the temperature inside for free. I think that's important in the kind of places you guys sail. Also, vertical windows means a larger space (volume) inside.
This was a very informative video and if I were shopping for a Sailboat or a Catamaran I would feel very comfortable using your opinions and details that you presented on evaluating a vessel. It was also to me how Terysa was more critical of some items than Nick was or maybe it was just how you were presenting the information.
Top video guys 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Really great content and very well presented. Saves us going to a boat show if we ever upgrade Double Trouble 😊
...wanted to add to my previous comment. PLEASE elaborate more on the after market options that you would choose to add to the catemeran. I'm assuming some of those are; water maker, solar, dinghy...etc...??? Would be great to see what skilled and knowledgable cruisers like yourself choose as "add ons". Thanx!!! Cheers from Denver Colorado USA
@@Cowboy684 wrong channel mate.
Very well presented!
Supposedly, you have checked under the floors? The through hull fittings and piping, cables conduits, used waters management, and all many details owners sometimes get crazy finding out how things are done.
Would like to see your review of a Catana 43 and 47, why not Bali 43.
Fair winds and calm seas
Great format. Looking forward to this series.
Great video. You two are good at reviews. Looking forward to what’s coming.
28/50 for me. Great Fair Review. Scoring every aspect is a good way to organise one's thoughts but at the end of the day there are only 2 important questions 1) Will she look after you in a storm 2) How does she make you feel. For me, I love the interior and I know from Catamaran Impi Channel that she can handle massive storms and that build quality is great. But I would not be able to get around the the inferior performance (especially sailing upwind) because motoring in a cat into an coming sea is not fun as they tend to hobby-horse - so if you can sail upwind it would make a difference to me. I do hope there is a Catana Review. My score is 28/50 on the Lagoon
Thanks Rheino. Appreciate the candor
Good review but I was surprised you didn't talk about the design decision to move the mast step aft and put a compression post in the middle of the salon so the boat can accommodate a big self tacking headsail. A lot of folks also add a code zero to improve light wind performance...
Well done, the best review of a boat I have seen. I liked the size of this boat, and I do think it is the sweet spot for couples that have visitors on occasion. When I looked Lagoon last year I also looked at used ones and I was not impressed with wear and tear of two year old boats, but still agree ok for the money.
Well done comprehensive review! Looking forward to the others.
Great review. Very well structured and informative. 👍🏻
Only just got round to watching this. Boat aside, congratulations on devising and presenting a simple but valid method of measurement.
I found this very logical and easy to understand. I’m a boating novice by your standards, looking for our first boat and hopefully live-aboard in one hit.
We were at the Southampton boat show last year and struggled to rationalise the differences, pro’s and con’s and value for money across a range of (at the time) monohull boats.
Having gained more experience and knowledge, we are now considering Catamarans as the long term solution. So This review series has come just at the right time for us.
We will be back at Southampton this year. Are we allowed to use your method for our own purposes? Or is this a copyright thing? Fully understand if so.
Anyway, well done. Looking forward to the rest of the series. Maybe we’ll buy you a beer one day somewhere. 😀 👍
Hey mate, use it by all means. We even have an app for you to use to rate the boats yourself. See the link below. Just credit us, if you use it for media.
The more votes we get, the more valid the scores will be.
Thanks both, much appreciated.
Loving the concept of the video with the scoring system, very well thought out.
Thank you. The scoring was devised and refined by everyone who contributed on Facebook and Patreon. The idea was to create a system that would be important to as many people as possible.
It's very good.
That was a great review. If you were looking to buy a new catamaran then this type of review is the best I've seen. Maybe you have stumbled on a new venture?
Excellent review. I hope to retire soon and the Lagoon 42 is on my short list. I also like the Lagoon 400 which may be interesting for you to look at. There are a couple of slightly different versions, one with rounded furnishings and one with 90 degree sharp edge furnishings.
Hey mate, we reviewed the 40 and the 46. We’ll have them in upcoming episodes. Our friends have a 400 and it’s a lovely boat.
@@sailingrubyrose I feel the same way as you do about the 40 being too small and the 46 being too big for me. The 400 fits a sweet spot for me and is more in my price range.
Great review of the boat. Personally i prefer the Helia before this one. Way better quality, better under sail, just a better boat to live in😀👍
We have some FP reviews coming up.
What were your add-ones to bring it up to a cruising boat? A/C and Generator?
And, the best boat review I have seen. Great job!
Ac, gen set, solar, dinghy, nag equipment, autopilot, hard Bimini. Loads mate.
Nicely done!! Very impressive video! For some reason I thought the cats were far more expensive. I’m a power boat guy but use to sail smaller boats when we were kids. I know motor/diesel. Wish we can all get along...lol! It’s all educate! Anyway.... the wife and I are planning on taking off in 2-3 years and cruising the Bahamas, Caribbean and to south america countries. I will be in my early sixties...damn that sounds old! and wondering how much work it really is to sail. I know they have come along way. But also the upkeep/ maintenance compared to a power boat. That Lagoon is ABSALUTELY GORGEOUS!!!! With a sh*t ton of room! We were lookin at power cats but they’re not as sexy and don’t look as big! Anyway can’t wait to see what u end up with ! I’m excited for you guys!!
We are also looking for the perfect catamaran. And we were also in port grande motte :-) For us it is currently fountain pajot or bali. We do not like the mast standing in the middle of the living room. fp and bali have solved this better. thanks for the review, looking forward to seeing more reviews!
We have the FP review out in a few weeks. I’m not going to give away any spoilers unless you are going to put money down before the review is out. In that case, e mail me and I’ll run through some stuff.
If this is a true example/representation of your series on Catamarans to follow? then i can safely say these are the best I've seen on TH-cam - great effort guys.
Does this boat come with Lithium Batteries?
Cheers mate. We posted the whole price list of extras on our blog ( the link is below). You can see the cost of battery upgrades and alike there.
Fantastic detailed review!
Please next time make a review video about Lagoon 46 too with same method!
I would find a Lagoon 440 used of course. They are a pretty updated design and you can find them at an affordable price, many already outfitted for blue water cruising.
Well done a good review which gave plenty of food for thought
Great, honest review. My wife and I are basically shopping for the same type of boat. I can wait to get her to Annapolis so she can step foot on these great catamarans. My short list is the FP 40, Lagoon 42, Leopard 40 and Seawind 1260.
We have reviewed all but the 1260 as it wasn’t showing at La Grande Motte. We will however review it at Annapolis.
Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose the Seawind 1260 is actually at the top of my list for a couple reasons. I do like the dual helms, and they are protected from the elements. I also like the galley down setup. There is less freeboard on the 1260 compared to all the other production boats but I would think there would be less windage at anchorages. Might make it easier maneuvering in close quarters. Of course the Seawind is like finding a unicorn in the USA so I can’t wait to see the Seawind in person.
Love your videos, great content. Hope you have full trail winds, keep sailing ⛵️.
Great progress you guys are the TH-cam highlight of my week,Hows the diesel heaters working out?
It was all working fine the last time we checked
I have a lagoon 42 OV. I looked for 2 years for the right cat, the 42 was the one. Upgraded to the 57 HP motors, LPo battery bank, better cushions, B and G all way around. The only downside I have is the galley sink needs to have a barrier on the back side to protect the sliding windows. Forgot the seat, yes too short. Our shorter crew sat/lounged up on the ledge just inside the bimini like cats on their watch, tethered in! I would love to see how you would fix this, my quick option is to buy a large thick cushion.Good luck!
As a future L42 owner (mine arriving in June 2022)
1. What does the standard helm Bimini look like ? Do I need the the reinforced bimini ? What is the original one made of ?
2. What does the B&G navigation pack that comes with the essential equipment configuration consist of exactly ?
Nothing in the lagoon website explains these issues.
Probably the best review on youtube. Peace
Sailing Starship sail one of these - after watching your tour I watched theirs and really like the yacht. Other than the Cockpit seat everything seemed to be in a good place and work very well - check them out as they just completed an Atlantic crossing a month ago and have been onboard the yacht since last July.
Awesome review ! Well done !
Thanks my friend. We have many more to come
The grab rail can be converted in to a rain water catching system
Love to hear what you’d add to make this and others more suitable for cruising and fitting your lifestyle. Thanks...
Thanks for the first installment. Very objective view.
Love these videos guys! I doubt I'll ever own a boat, but one can dream! These are a wealth of info that, should my dream become a possibility, these are extremely helpful! The only thing I'll say about this vessel is that I thought it should deserve a slightly higher mark for the interior design (a 7 as opposed to the 6). I understand the cushion issue is important, but I think the 3 hatches in the cabins, as well as the rounded corners, and fairly large berths, should've earned her a 7. Yes, the kitchen was slightly smaller, but the storage space, especially in the master hull, is fantastic! Of course, that's just my opinion... Cheers from Toronto!
Great job ! Looking forward to the other reviews 😊
Great review and looking forward to other catamaran reviews....
Great review. Looking forward to the rest.
Good point about grab rails! I agree.
Let's be honest. If you could afford one the Lagoon Seventy7 would be the sweet spot! 🤣👍 Nice video.
there is a lagoon 45 and 52 sport version, hope you guys give us a review of them one day :)
Great post production
Great job, I really like the layout of this review. I’m really looking forward to this series. I would like to offer a little constructive criticism.... the voiceover audio was not good, it seem to have a little buzzing in the back ground; however when Nic did the voice over for the price of the boat, the audio seemed much better(different mic 🎙 or recording location) Just food for thought and like I said, I’m really looking forward to watching the future videos!
Your vids are great and couldn't be more timely as I'm in the same process between Lagoon, Leopard, Fountaine Pajot,...and now looking seriously at the Nautitech Open class because I just don't like flybridges on any boat for that matter. Thoughts?
We will be reviewing them all over the coming weeks. Just don’t put any money down until you’ve seen them.
@@sailingrubyrose Thank you, no $ down any time soon. expect the process to take at least a year and appreciate all the due diligence on your part. Cheers
Great job , love the way your doing this... looking forward to seeing more reviews
We noticed the handrail on the 46 at the Miami boat show. I immediately thought of the Xquisite that we also looked at there and how it was used as a water catchment system. Sure enough, there is an aftermarket kit to turn those handrails into a water catchment system.
Would be very interested to know about the after market system ... do you have any details of the product?
On the last scene, I noticed Nick sitting at the edge of the sofa with his elbow on the navigation table. It brought to my attention the fact that the navigation table does not have dedicated sitting arrangements making it uncomfortable to work at the table without a backrest. The other issues such as the helm seat and the handrails are easy to solve even after purchase but the problem with the navigation table would require a major redesign of both the table and the sofa. No mention was made of the access from the deck to the mast base for dealing with the mainsail and the quality of the rigging and tackle in regards to ocean crossing environment. As of now, to me, this looks like a Mediterranean or Caribbean short distance cruiser Otherwise, good review.
For me and Sheila the best catamaran in La Grande Mott 2019. We are doing our researches using the same criteria as you. Good luck and greetings from Brazil.
Great review, cannot wait for the next one.