Yep.... it's a great resource in many ways, love the joint effort between community and content creators, it resulted in a great list, interesting feedback on the go, some good tips on what to look out if you're interested in the ships in the list. It's not the kind of things you expect from the "top X" types of videos.
I think you’ve done a very fine job with these review vids. I like your approach better than Cruising Off Duty’s approach to cat reviews, not that they’re bad - they’re not -, just yours are better IMHO. Well done!
Just curious as to know "how" these review videos are better? is it better video editing? Is it better "common sense approach to livability?"...Is it because they cover more topics in their videos than those by *Cruising Off Duty*?
ha! I knew it that the Seawind would be the one. After seeing you talk about it I went down to San Diego and was Kindly invited by Kurt of Denison yachts to go out on a Seawind 1260 and even though it was the smaller version I loved it and the key selling points where for me the Helm station protected with the Electric window and also the Door to the Lounge area that can be winched up to the ceiling amazing. Well I think you have done a bang up job on this review with all of your followers and wish more people would do this. So I raise my glass to you both cheers
I know nothjng about boats but soon realised the Seawind 1600 is MINDBLOWING! What a boat, the design, the layout, the price. U true engineering masterpiece
Very pleased to see the Seawind come out on top. The viewers clearly have good tastes! Thanks for a terrific series. Glad to hear there will be more reviews to come. I’m looking forward to seeing how the Balance 526 compares to the 1600 (notwithstanding the price difference).
I was pleased to see that you will visit and review the X5 from South Africa. All I have seen on this boat was very positive. Their customer service was exceptional and their buy back program was perfect. It put a smile on my face; perhaps, it will do the same for you two.
There are many points you two have covered that I didn't have a clue about.....so I have learned much more about catamarans though this series of episodes.....thanks to you two!!
Thank you so much for doing this. I’ve watched hundreds of boat videos and this was truly much more helpful. Appreciate everyone who took the time to vote. 👏🏻👍🏼🥰
Thank you for your so quick and as, always such nice reviews. I'm 60, and and you inspire me to be inland or inter-coastal, and that's the charm of your channel, thank you,... for sharing your adventure on blue.
Such a great video. Really a lot of work and energy went into this series I know. It is much appreciated. I hope in time you will get your dream catamaran. Stay well and happy.
I'm with Rick on this one...Balance 451 and the new 482....should be in the running for up to 50'.....526 is Sweet...but a very well put together episode..Thanks for your time and consideration
A helm on the sugar scoop for me drops the over all score of a cat to ZERO! There is no perfect cat and there will be many things that you will have to compromise on when purchasing but the absolute deal killer for us is a crappy positioned helm! Thanks for the video excellent job
Having engine access inside the boat is the worst design I can imagine. Never in my life do I want smelly diesel and oil and heat in the living space !
Agreed!!! What a great job you two have done producing this valuable service to those of us trying to find a cat without going to all of those boat shows. Thanks a ton! Scott & Katheryn
First, thank you for putting all the effort and talent in compiling this extensive review. Completely fair and unbiased. Will be interested in Ruby Rose direction in the future. Great work! Disappointed the HH 50 didn't make the list....:)
I think any one of these cats, with the right owner modifications, would be great. Your diligence and enthusiasm for these reviews is pro..all the way. If I was Seawind I would think they would look into making a 1600 affordable(kind of a you know who deal) to you guys..simply for the exposure you have given to the audience out side of Australia. Regardless..I'm sure your decision will fit the parameters you have...and will be alot of fun!
Quite right regarding affordability, that being said it would be interesting to consider a 1 or 2 year-old Privilege if a couple or more are living on board full time.
Great reviews guys. I think designers should start thinking a little differently about the exposed helms. Remote docking and handling systems like Dock Mate can now be used for all close quarters manoeuvring on many boats. If they could be adapted for use on a catamaran it would negate much of the need for those exposed helms.
Great job Nick and Terysa. I’ve seen your videos with the Wynn’s and have since started to follow you from the start of your youtube channel. Love the wit and banter. You two are a couple of cards. Love the Cat reviews and this one especially. I will be at Annapolis on October and can’t wait to see the Xquisite5 X5. Then I hope to see the rest of your reviews on the custom Cats after that. Hope to see you at Annapolis.
I was on a two year old Seawind 1260 a few months ago and I absolutely didn't like it. Full disclaimer never been on a 1600 but it looks like a slightly larger version of the 1260 to me so I probably would have the same feeling about the 1600. Either way, Its funny to me that you are a cruising channel and are picking a performance based, cramped, minimalist catamaran as the best. You spent time with Niki and Jason and those two have been in the French Polynesia area for months now. All that gear, dive tanks, boards etc wouldn't fit comfortably on a Seawind 1260 they would need the 1600 and would have to spend far more for the boat than most other brands. Even though you are coming from a mono hull I think you would regret not getting the extra space. Family/Patron visits, extra crew, or whatever would be difficult. Just like buying a house, if you see it when it is empty and it looks small wait till you put all your stuff in it then it will be really small. If you have a spare moment check out this video from Sailing Zatara. Yeah hes talking about used boats but the principle is the same. th-cam.com/video/wvlf_77WdTw/w-d-xo.html No matter the decision, it is your decision and you have to do what is best for you and screw what the rest of us think. Just my unsolicited two cents.. Love you both, stay safe out there.
Hey Jack! We haven't been onboard the 1260 yet, but the 1600 was designed by a different naval architect so I believe the two boats do have many differences. We're not going to base our final decision on these scores (as in, whichever scores highest will be the 'winner'), but we are using these reviews as a tool to study and compare the available catamarans on the market. So just because we're gushing over the performance cats, doesn't necessarily mean that's the direction we'll go in. Thanks for the input mate! 😀 - Terysa
Not a surprising finish for top three and I think a very accurate one. It will be interesting to see how other brands compare and perhaps at the end some proper sea trials.
Great series, very informative! Cats certainly have a lot of comfort compared to a mono hull, but the plus side of the mono hull is that provided it is sturdy and watertight, it can handle being knocked over in a hectic storm and righting itself because the COG is below the waterline, whereas with a cat, a hectic storm can be a hectic problem trying to stay the right way up!
Great summary of part 1! I haven’t really looked at the Nautitech; will have to do that. Waiting for Sailing Sisu’s take on the Leopard 45 finishing 7th. Lol. I like that it has a stub keel protecting the sail drives and rudders. Looking forward to your reviews of the Antares, Balance 526, Maverick 440 and XQuisite X5
I love how the dividing line between ‘horribly exposed helm’ and ‘well protected inboard helm that you can spend hours on long watches’....is six freaking inches and a slightly more padded chair. Not everyone has ‘ocean crossing in rough seas’ at the very pinnacle of their list of requirements. All of these boats come with interior NAV stations and very few people are going to be manning the helm in the middle of the North Atlantic at all times anyway.
I've really been enjoying these reviews. You guys are doing a great job. Fun AND informative (but Nick needs to learn not to steal your thunder ;-). Great work guys, and looking for the next round of reviews!
You two are evil! I stopped living on a sailboat years ago. But, your channel and this series are pushing me over the edge to give up land status and head back to sea. Love the channel and the way you two present things. The 7 stair lock thing was amazing. Happy Trails
Very nice comparisons... It is actually very hard to find a performance catamaran, in the second hand market which is overwhelmed with fat charter cats. Gotta have those skinny hulls, dagger boards and a streamlined profile.
Still my pick would be the Privilege Serie 5 for a full-on liveaboard, while another thing to look at for a sailing boat for me is the draft of the boat (Im not sure if it is called that but I mean the minimum water depth in can safely sail in) which will determine places you can safely go or even get into some docks (what you are carrying comes into this factor as well so it may vary). Now how fast a boat can sail can matter in emergencies да, yet for just sailing it does not really matter and if you want to get somewhere fast maybe sailing is not your thing und... tschau tschau
I know it’s different but you should look at a Tiki 46, a fab blue water catamaran, it’s fast, easy sail rig and has a central wheelhouse with berth and a place to make tea, check it out
Very surprised at your aversion to the front cockpit of the Leopard, especially with your experience of Mediterranean mooring. The cockpit does clear of water - the proof is out there and I imagine that cockpit adds an incalculable value when at anchor (to wind) and when sailing in the trade winds - not to mention privacy when moored, or at anchor. I am still recreationally chartering and May never get to do the long distance stuff in my own cat - but hopefully an opinion is still worthy?
Luxury v Performance is the overall consensus of the results. The performance catamarans need more useable space/luxury; Luxury cats need dagger boards/kicker boards; I want performance, but purchasing luxury is the only way my wife will do the live aboard..... I’m curious if you could actually modify or refit the luxury cat, like the Leopard 45/Bali 43 w dagger/kicker boards and improve performance 🤔, those would be my choice vessels, if I could get 15/18nts in 25/30mph winds; And YES, you’re a performance/safety guy and biased to ocean v coastal travel, that’s why I like the reviews, you apply the 30 sec SOS/MOB rule, good season, almost fair summary. Thanks
You are wrong of course, the best catamaran is the McConaghy MC68. :P Excellent work with both the reviews and this summary. I guessed from your original seawind video that it would go this way. One serious comment, on the original seawind video there is a question about protection of the sail drives. I have seen profiles of the hulls, the saildrives do not extend lower than the deepest part of the hulls, so they should not be vulnerable.
Well done although not always comparing like with like. Should segment between production. Catamarans mainly used for island hopping and other for blue water cruising.
So, Quality does have a price! I was really disappointed in Neel. I like the tri and prefer sailing them. Dam fast and the design I was thinking was spot on for blue water. Build quality is everything and shabby workmanship has no excuse at any price.
Lol, what happened to the Leopard 50? I would have thought that you would have had that in the running and I would have thought it would have been in the to 50%. Like the reviews from you guys, I too am not a fan of exposed helms, sharp corners etc. 👍🍻🍷
We have dealt with this topic in several videos and explained why we don’t discuss bridge deck clearance. In short, there is not a clear link between the two. Nacelle shape, trim, loading and sea state all contribute to slapping. To the inexperienced it would be misleading to discuss clearance and indicate that the link between it and slapping is direct
I love your reviews guys, knowledgeable and fair. However ranking is a bit pointless when comparing boats up to x3 the price of others. Not like for like really. So many of us are planning to go cruising, want cats for the obvious reasons, but for me it will be on a fixed budget, so probably looking at a 8-10 year old boat (in 8-10 years time) so that's why I'm looking closely at boats available now as this is what I'll buy in the future. Passage making not the be all & end all for us as there will probably be 1 ARC & 1 Panama to French Polynesia in 5-6 years. 99% of use will be day sails and on the hook, so narrow cabins and performance not on my list. Comfort, short handed sail, homely feel, lots of room all more important, especially as lets face it, with modern tech & weather prediction, they are all safe boats, its usually the sailor that is unsafe!! Rating for me puts Lagoon higher as its basically a floating condo that can travel and will be available in the future at a reasonable price that will let me update and partially refit.
We looked at new boats because it was a boat show. However you are correct, many of these are out of our price range. However many of the features of the new boats are present on used boats. We will of course look at the used market, but it’s easier to quantify, and get up to date pricing, polar diagrams and extras lists from new boats.
Are you looking to buy new like you did with Ruby Rose? Given you've had other boats previously, would you buy new again or go used for the potential savings? Very generally speaking of course.
great job, still some boats to review, what i see in the results is that we all like performance and confort in secon place, but in a direct confrontation like outremer and seawind with similar performance, the confort wins, the other importatn fact is price/value, i think the bes realtion price/value i for the Nautitech 46. My thoughts: i am 60, if i would have to go with my wife only the Outremer 51, if my sons sail with us, the Seawind 1600, if i buy looking only the most for the money i pay Nautitech 46.
Take a look in 5 years after they have spent that 5 years cruising and not sitting at the dock . It's a boat , they break down and then you see how well it's put together when you have to repair .
Great series, very well done! Would love to see you do a sailing review of the Seawind 1600; hopefully that's in the works after your next round of reviews? : )
Very interesting and enjoyable to watch and learn about the different Cats. I would have liked see you give more about the prices, at least the base price. For us a $2,000,000 Cat just isn’t within our budget. Are they all in that price range?
Check out the results for the 2018 Arc Rally Multihull. A Lagoon 42 beat an Outremer 5X and 4X by 2 days and a Catana by 5 days. Maybe passage making performance has more to do with the crew than the boat brand? At any rate, that's a lot of performance for an overweight production Cat with $365k base. Value rated at 5?
Good Point. As an owner of two Fountaine pajots I looked at the results to convince myself that they were faster than the Lagoons but found that the Lagoon 42s were so spread out that the finish times can only be more a factor the way they are sailed than of the boat. Also can someone tell me the logic behind fitting a self tacking jib on a boat that even the owners admit just doesn't sail to windward ? Self tacking jibs are for short tacking up narrow channels, not tacking once every hundred miles or so which is what most cruisers do. I can only assume that the owners of these boats hate sailing so much that they will fit anything that reduces the pain !
Marsaudon Composites TS5, HH, Asia Catamarans, Schionning, Grainger, Banuls, GunBoat ? Being exposed to the weather (in some ways is something people don't understand in sailing. The sailor needs to know, see and feel whats happening with the weather thats why there french design them that way. in order to sail the boat safely. People would be better served by looking at Bespoke designs like Chris White's Multihulls Quality of his boats is second to none.
Absolutely invaluable resource for anyone looking to get a catamaran. You guys really knocked this series out of the park! Thanks for sharing
Yep.... it's a great resource in many ways, love the joint effort between community and content creators, it resulted in a great list, interesting feedback on the go, some good tips on what to look out if you're interested in the ships in the list. It's not the kind of things you expect from the "top X" types of videos.
I think you’ve done a very fine job with these review vids. I like your approach better than Cruising Off Duty’s approach to cat reviews, not that they’re bad - they’re not -, just yours are better IMHO. Well done!
Just curious as to know "how" these review videos are better? is it better video editing? Is it better "common sense approach to livability?"...Is it because they cover more topics in their videos than those by *Cruising Off Duty*?
ha! I knew it that the Seawind would be the one. After seeing you talk about it I went down to San Diego and was Kindly invited by Kurt of Denison yachts to go out on a Seawind 1260 and even though it was the smaller version I loved it and the key selling points where for me the Helm station protected with the Electric window and also the Door to the Lounge area that can be winched up to the ceiling amazing. Well I think you have done a bang up job on this review with all of your followers and wish more people would do this. So I raise my glass to you both cheers
Andy morris
Very cool opportunity for you, I like that one
I know nothjng about boats but soon realised the Seawind 1600 is MINDBLOWING! What a boat, the design, the layout, the price. U true engineering masterpiece
By far the best cat review I have seen. Thanks for all the great work on this. What a service for prospective buyers and dreamers alike!
Great job analyzing so many different Catamarans! Can't wait to see the results after the boat show!
Very pleased to see the Seawind come out on top. The viewers clearly have good tastes!
Thanks for a terrific series. Glad to hear there will be more reviews to come. I’m looking forward to seeing how the Balance 526 compares to the 1600 (notwithstanding the price difference).
I can’t wait for the Seawind 1260 review!! She is our current top contender for our first cruising cat purchase.
I was pleased to see that you will visit and review the X5 from South Africa. All I have seen on this boat was very positive. Their customer service was exceptional and their buy back program was perfect. It put a smile on my face; perhaps, it will do the same for you two.
Review the Balance 526 it is the best of both worlds in my option
There are many points you two have covered that I didn't have a clue about.....so I have learned much more about catamarans though this series of episodes.....thanks to you two!!
A pleasure mate
Thank you so much for doing this. I’ve watched hundreds of boat videos and this was truly much more helpful. Appreciate everyone who took the time to vote. 👏🏻👍🏼🥰
Thank you for your so quick and as, always such nice reviews. I'm 60, and and you inspire me to be inland or inter-coastal, and that's the charm of your channel, thank you,... for sharing your adventure on blue.
You are so welcome!
Such a great video. Really a lot of work and energy went into this series I know. It is much appreciated. I hope in time you will get your dream catamaran. Stay well and happy.
I'm with Rick on this one...Balance 451 and the new 482....should be in the running for up to 50'.....526 is Sweet...but a very well put together episode..Thanks for your time and consideration
A helm on the sugar scoop for me drops the over all score of a cat to ZERO! There is no perfect cat and there will be many things that you will have to compromise on when purchasing but the absolute deal killer for us is a crappy positioned helm! Thanks for the video excellent job
Same with the engine access on the sugar scoop - imagine a clogged fuel filter at night in a rough sea. No thanks.
Having engine access inside the boat is the worst design I can imagine. Never in my life do I want smelly diesel and oil and heat in the living space !
Really looking forward to your review of the Maverick 400/440, when you get the chance. Thanks also for taking the time to compile all this!
Agreed!!! What a great job you two have done producing this valuable service to those of us trying to find a cat without going to all of those boat shows. Thanks a ton! Scott & Katheryn
First, thank you for putting all the effort and talent in compiling this extensive review. Completely fair and unbiased. Will be interested in Ruby Rose direction in the future. Great work! Disappointed the HH 50 didn't make the list....:)
This continues to be a fun series to watch, and this episode is a great wrap-up of what you've seen so far. Keep 'em coming!
I think any one of these cats, with the right owner modifications, would be great. Your diligence and enthusiasm for these reviews is pro..all the way. If I was Seawind I would think they would look into making a 1600 affordable(kind of a you know who deal) to you guys..simply for the exposure you have given to the audience out side of Australia. Regardless..I'm sure your decision will fit the parameters you have...and will be alot of fun!
The answer is the one that you can afford, that is in the best condition, and that meets your use!
Bingo!
I was thinking best was a friends
If you can't afford it , don't do it. Buy once, cry once.
Quite right regarding affordability, that being said it would be interesting to consider a 1 or 2 year-old Privilege if a couple or more are living on board full time.
th-cam.com/video/3pORckD6cmk/w-d-xo.html
Pretty nice older leopard..well fitted out
Hats off guys for an epic production. Love your videos.
Gotta love coming to work from a boat show to see a new Yacht Ruby Rose video 👍👍
Very well done! One of the best catamaran reviews I've seen! Thanks
Great reviews guys. I think designers should start thinking a little differently about the exposed helms. Remote docking and handling systems like Dock Mate can now be used for all close quarters manoeuvring on many boats. If they could be adapted for use on a catamaran it would negate much of the need for those exposed helms.
Thank you guys for taking us on this journey with you - great information and practical opinions!
Great to see the first round scores and ranking.....but, looking forward to the next reviews! Thanks Nick and Terysa!! Cheers! 🍻😎
Great job Nick and Terysa. I’ve seen your videos with the Wynn’s and have since started to follow you from the start of your youtube channel. Love the wit and banter. You two are a couple of cards. Love the Cat reviews and this one especially. I will be at Annapolis on October and can’t wait to see the Xquisite5 X5. Then I hope to see the rest of your reviews on the custom Cats after that. Hope to see you at Annapolis.
Thanks mate !
You have done such a great job of the reviews. I look forward to the next batch.
Very well done. Thanks for putting in so much work on this great video.
I was on a two year old Seawind 1260 a few months ago and I absolutely didn't like it. Full disclaimer never been on a 1600 but it looks like a slightly larger version of the 1260 to me so I probably would have the same feeling about the 1600. Either way, Its funny to me that you are a cruising channel and are picking a performance based, cramped, minimalist catamaran as the best. You spent time with Niki and Jason and those two have been in the French Polynesia area for months now. All that gear, dive tanks, boards etc wouldn't fit comfortably on a Seawind 1260 they would need the 1600 and would have to spend far more for the boat than most other brands. Even though you are coming from a mono hull I think you would regret not getting the extra space. Family/Patron visits, extra crew, or whatever would be difficult. Just like buying a house, if you see it when it is empty and it looks small wait till you put all your stuff in it then it will be really small.
If you have a spare moment check out this video from Sailing Zatara. Yeah hes talking about used boats but the principle is the same.
th-cam.com/video/wvlf_77WdTw/w-d-xo.html
No matter the decision, it is your decision and you have to do what is best for you and screw what the rest of us think. Just my unsolicited two cents.. Love you both, stay safe out there.
Hey Jack! We haven't been onboard the 1260 yet, but the 1600 was designed by a different naval architect so I believe the two boats do have many differences. We're not going to base our final decision on these scores (as in, whichever scores highest will be the 'winner'), but we are using these reviews as a tool to study and compare the available catamarans on the market. So just because we're gushing over the performance cats, doesn't necessarily mean that's the direction we'll go in. Thanks for the input mate! 😀 - Terysa
Cruising is cruising regardless of the boat you buy.
Sensational clip and thank you for sharing the amount of work gone into this. Well done 😊👍🏼
Not a surprising finish for top three and I think a very accurate one. It will be interesting to see how other brands compare and perhaps at the end some proper sea trials.
Great work better than any journalism
Great series, very informative! Cats certainly have a lot of comfort compared to a mono hull, but the plus side of the mono hull is that provided it is sturdy and watertight, it can handle being knocked over in a hectic storm and righting itself because the COG is below the waterline, whereas with a cat, a hectic storm can be a hectic problem trying to stay the right way up!
Have really enjoyed this series! Thank you for doing the homework for the rest of us!
Thank you so much for all your hard work, this is really great information for newbies like me.
Great summary of part 1! I haven’t really looked at the Nautitech; will have to do that. Waiting for Sailing Sisu’s take on the Leopard 45 finishing 7th. Lol. I like that it has a stub keel protecting the sail drives and rudders.
Looking forward to your reviews of the Antares, Balance 526, Maverick 440 and XQuisite X5
I never knew there were so many different Cats. Like your reviews, and am looking forward to others in the future. Great work/reporting.
Thanks for your work on this. I look forward to more reviews.
I love how the dividing line between ‘horribly exposed helm’ and ‘well protected inboard helm that you can spend hours on long watches’....is six freaking inches and a slightly more padded chair. Not everyone has ‘ocean crossing in rough seas’ at the very pinnacle of their list of requirements. All of these boats come with interior NAV stations and very few people are going to be manning the helm in the middle of the North Atlantic at all times anyway.
I've really been enjoying these reviews. You guys are doing a great job. Fun AND informative (but Nick needs to learn not to steal your thunder ;-). Great work guys, and looking for the next round of reviews!
Aaaand this is why I watch y'all. Cheers!
You two are evil! I stopped living on a sailboat years ago. But, your channel and this series are pushing me over the edge to give up land status and head back to sea. Love the channel and the way you two present things. The 7 stair lock thing was amazing. Happy Trails
You know you want to be at sea my friend. 😁
@@sailingrubyrose No doubt about that in my mind. Have a Blessed Day.
What about the Sunreef?
That quasi 3rd hull floating in the air seems quite interesting for storms, not boxy, large interior, cover for helm etc.
Great video. Thank you so much for all the hard work that you put into these reviews.
Any consideration as to depreciated value, say after 5 years? Comparison could be interesting as to how they each hold their value.
Superb reporting. Thank you
Very nice comparisons... It is actually very hard to find a performance catamaran, in the second hand market which is overwhelmed with fat charter cats. Gotta have those skinny hulls, dagger boards and a streamlined profile.
Very interesting results. Thank you for doing this.
Great video insightful helpful just well thought out keep up the great work can’t wait to see the next batch of reviews
thanks mate
another great video that has me thinking more and more about the possibilities of a cat over a mono hull
Excellent as usual!!!
Still my pick would be the Privilege Serie 5 for a full-on liveaboard, while another thing to look at for a sailing boat for me is the draft of the boat (Im not sure if it is called that but I mean the minimum water depth in can safely sail in) which will determine places you can safely go or even get into some docks (what you are carrying comes into this factor as well so it may vary). Now how fast a boat can sail can matter in emergencies да, yet for just sailing it does not really matter and if you want to get somewhere fast maybe sailing is not your thing und... tschau tschau
OHHH I was hoping you would do a wrap up episode! Now look what you have done, you made me get GEEK all over your comment section. :)
I know it’s different but you should look at a Tiki 46, a fab blue water catamaran, it’s fast, easy sail rig and has a central wheelhouse with berth and a place to make tea, check it out
Hello Ruby Rose... Thanks for the information and input.
Very surprised at your aversion to the front cockpit of the Leopard, especially with your experience of Mediterranean mooring. The cockpit does clear of water - the proof is out there and I imagine that cockpit adds an incalculable value when at anchor (to wind) and when sailing in the trade winds - not to mention privacy when moored, or at anchor. I am still recreationally chartering and May never get to do the long distance stuff in my own cat - but hopefully an opinion is still worthy?
Very worthy opinion, Thankyou Tony!
Luxury v Performance is the overall consensus of the results. The performance catamarans need more useable space/luxury; Luxury cats need dagger boards/kicker boards; I want performance, but purchasing luxury is the only way my wife will do the live aboard..... I’m curious if you could actually modify or refit the luxury cat, like the Leopard 45/Bali 43 w dagger/kicker boards and improve performance 🤔, those would be my choice vessels, if I could get 15/18nts in 25/30mph winds; And YES, you’re a performance/safety guy and biased to ocean v coastal travel, that’s why I like the reviews, you apply the 30 sec SOS/MOB rule, good season, almost fair summary. Thanks
Enjoyed, thanks for posting.
My favorit is the Maverick 440 Hybrid - for me the best bost on the market - greetings from Jogi from Germany
Hey mate. Greetings
Very helpful review, if you should get a chance, please review the balance 526, thanks
Well done
Nice reviews guys. I would be keen to see reviews on pre owned cats too if this is possible ! Really liking your work :-)
You are wrong of course, the best catamaran is the McConaghy MC68. :P
Excellent work with both the reviews and this summary. I guessed from your original seawind video that it would go this way. One serious comment, on the original seawind video there is a question about protection of the sail drives. I have seen profiles of the hulls, the saildrives do not extend lower than the deepest part of the hulls, so they should not be vulnerable.
Well done although not always comparing like with like. Should segment between production. Catamarans mainly used for island hopping and other for blue water cruising.
So, Quality does have a price! I was really disappointed in Neel. I like the tri and prefer sailing them. Dam fast and the design I was thinking was spot on for blue water. Build quality is everything and shabby workmanship has no excuse at any price.
Lol, what happened to the Leopard 50? I would have thought that you would have had that in the running and I would have thought it would have been in the to 50%.
Like the reviews from you guys, I too am not a fan of exposed helms, sharp corners etc. 👍🍻🍷
Excellent
Hi Guys you haven’t mentioned sailing performance in terms of bridge deck clearance and potential slapping.
We have dealt with this topic in several videos and explained why we don’t discuss bridge deck clearance. In short, there is not a clear link between the two. Nacelle shape, trim, loading and sea state all contribute to slapping. To the inexperienced it would be misleading to discuss clearance and indicate that the link between it and slapping is direct
What do you guys think about Sunreefs new 50?
I love your reviews guys, knowledgeable and fair. However ranking is a bit pointless when comparing boats up to x3 the price of others. Not like for like really. So many of us are planning to go cruising, want cats for the obvious reasons, but for me it will be on a fixed budget, so probably looking at a 8-10 year old boat (in 8-10 years time) so that's why I'm looking closely at boats available now as this is what I'll buy in the future. Passage making not the be all & end all for us as there will probably be 1 ARC & 1 Panama to French Polynesia in 5-6 years. 99% of use will be day sails and on the hook, so narrow cabins and performance not on my list. Comfort, short handed sail, homely feel, lots of room all more important, especially as lets face it, with modern tech & weather prediction, they are all safe boats, its usually the sailor that is unsafe!! Rating for me puts Lagoon higher as its basically a floating condo that can travel and will be available in the future at a reasonable price that will let me update and partially refit.
We looked at new boats because it was a boat show.
However you are correct, many of these are out of our price range. However many of the features of the new boats are present on used boats. We will of course look at the used market, but it’s easier to quantify, and get up to date pricing, polar diagrams and extras lists from new boats.
One can only dream.
Weird, Seawind helm stations don't look comfortable to me. You would think having such an open cockpit it get very cold and breezy on some nights.
I learned so much!! Thank YOu ,be well!!
Are you looking to buy new like you did with Ruby Rose? Given you've had other boats previously, would you buy new again or go used for the potential savings? Very generally speaking of course.
great job, still some boats to review, what i see in the results is that we all like performance and confort in secon place, but in a direct confrontation like outremer and seawind with similar performance, the confort wins, the other importatn fact is price/value, i think the bes realtion price/value i for the Nautitech 46.
My thoughts: i am 60, if i would have to go with my wife only the Outremer 51, if my sons sail with us, the Seawind 1600, if i buy looking only the most for the money i pay Nautitech 46.
Great stuff guys. When you get to the end we would love to see a final rating by price bracket. Just so we have a oranges to oranges comparison.
Yep, there will be plenty of scope for comparisons by length, performance and price by the time we get through it all.
great series
Well done. Love the channel.
So glad the Seawind came up Number 1... so guys when do we expect to see the episodes of you searching fo a Seawind?
Now that you have reviewed the Xquisite X5 where in this list would you place it?
We have the final results video out soon
Fantastic
So glad the 1600 won!!!
Take a look in 5 years after they have spent that 5 years cruising and not sitting at the dock . It's a boat , they break down and then you see how well it's put together when you have to repair .
Great series, very well done! Would love to see you do a sailing review of the Seawind 1600; hopefully that's in the works after your next round of reviews? : )
We’d love that! But organising sea trials is actually a bit of a logistical challenge! Hopefully we can make it work one day
Very interesting and enjoyable to watch and learn about the different Cats. I would have liked see you give more about the prices, at least the base price. For us a $2,000,000 Cat just isn’t within our budget. Are they all in that price range?
All pricing information is in the individual reviews.
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Will you by any chance be looking at Shionning ?
Comment for comments sake. Just to help boost the views. Not surprised the Aussie boat was a winner.
Hope you get a chance to look at a Gunboat but the price will be a major negative
Absolutely interesting information Thank you for your effort Interesting would be to know how well the neel performs compared to catamarans.
Check out the results for the 2018 Arc Rally Multihull. A Lagoon 42 beat an Outremer 5X and 4X by 2 days and a Catana by 5 days. Maybe passage making performance has more to do with the crew than the boat brand? At any rate, that's a lot of performance for an overweight production Cat with $365k base. Value rated at 5?
Good Point. As an owner of two Fountaine pajots I looked at the results to convince myself that they were faster than the Lagoons but found that the Lagoon 42s were so spread out that the finish times can only be more a factor the way they are sailed than of the boat. Also can someone tell me the logic behind fitting a self tacking jib on a boat that even the owners admit just doesn't sail to windward ? Self tacking jibs are for short tacking up narrow channels, not tacking once every hundred miles or so which is what most cruisers do. I can only assume that the owners of these boats hate sailing so much that they will fit anything that reduces the pain !
Have you guys looked at the Gunboat?
Marsaudon Composites TS5, HH, Asia Catamarans, Schionning, Grainger, Banuls, GunBoat ?
Being exposed to the weather (in some ways is something people don't understand in sailing. The sailor needs to know, see and feel whats happening with the weather thats why there french design them that way. in order to sail the boat safely. People would be better served by looking at Bespoke designs like Chris White's Multihulls Quality of his boats is second to none.
I love how British this is.
Did you do a review of a Bali catamaran I saw you use it in comparisons but I cannot find a video.
looking forward to the review of an xquisite catamaran those things are sexy.. of course very high price tag but hey nothing wrong with looking.
Have you considered reviewing or buyig Aventura 34 and 44 catamarans? What do you personally think of it?