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This video isn’t updated because Messi won the copa America At international level last year 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
And 7 ballon dors😛
@@collinyt3601 undeserved? Lol
@@collinyt3601 you’ve not been keeping up with what critics be talking about Messi with Argentina, aren’t you?
🇦🇷🐐Leo Messi is the best international player of the 21st century!
🔻Individual honours
🏅1× World Cup Best Player: 2014
🏅2× Copa America Best Player: 2015, 2021
🏅1× U-20 World Cup Best Player: 2005
🏅1× U-20 World Cup Top Goalscorer: 2005
🏅1× Copa America Best Young Player: 2007
🏅1× Copa America Top Goalscorer: 2021
🏅1× Copa America Best Goal: 2007
🏅4× Copa America Top Assist provider: 2011, 2015, 2016, 2021
🏅1× Olympics Best Football Player (selected by FIFA official website): 2008
🔻Team honours
🏆1× U-20 World Cup: 2005
🏆1× Copa America: 2021
🥇1× Olympic Gold: 2008
🥈1× World Cup runner-up: 2014
🥈3× Copa America runner-up: 2007, 2015, 2016
🔻International records
🌟Most «goals + assists» in major intl tournaments
🌟Most assists in major intl tournaments
🌟Most intl MOTM awards
🌟Most intl individual awards
🌟Most 'Golden Ball/Best Player' awards of intl tournaments
🌟Most MOTM awards in major intl tournaments
🌟Most MOTM awards in World Cup [Shared with C. Ronaldo and A. Robben]
🌟Most successful dribbles in World Cup history
🌟Most assists in Copa America history
🌟Most Copa America 'Golden Ball/Best Player' awards
🌟Most assists in a Copa America
🌟Most MOTM awards in a Copa America
🌟Most MOTM awards in Copa America history
🌟Only player to win the 'Golden Ball/Best Player' awards of 3 different intl tournaments
🌟Only player to be the top goalscorer, top assist provider, best player and champion in an intl tournament
🌟Most assists in South America qualifiers for the World Cup
🌟Most intl goals by a South American player
🌟Most goals for Argentina National Team
🌟Most assists for Argentina National Team
🌟Most hat-tricks for Argentina National Team
🌟Only player to score in his teens, his twenties and his thirties in World Cup
🌟Most World Cup tournaments with at least one assist
🌟Most Copa America tournaments with at least one assist
🌟Most «goals + assists» in intl tournaments' knockout matches
🌟Most free-kick goals in Copa America
🇦🇷Messi 🆚 🇵🇹Ronaldo at the international level
🔸Individual awards
🇦🇷Messi:
🏅1× World Cup Best Player
🏅2× Copa America Best Player
🏅1× Copa America Top Goalscorer
🏅1× U-20 World Cup Best Player
🏅1× U-20 World Cup Top Goalscorer
🏅1× Copa America Best Young Player
🏅1× Copa America Best Goal
🇵🇹Ronaldo:
🏅1× Euro Top Goalscorer (with 3 penalty goals and 2 tap-in goals)
❌Never been the best player of a tournament! 😂😂
🔸Team trophies:
🇦🇷Messi:
🏆1× U-20 World Cup
🏆1× Copa America
🥇1× Olympic Gold
🇵🇹Ronaldo:
🏆1× Euro
🏆1× UEFA Nations League 😂
🇵🇹More goals
🇦🇷More assists
🇦🇷More MOTM awards
🇦🇷More Best Player of the Tournament awards
🇦🇷More Top Goalscorer awards
🇦🇷More trophies
🇦🇷More individual awards
Even at the international level, Ronaldo can't be as good as Messi the GOAT. Media has overrated him because of scoring against Luxembourg, Andorra, Lithuania, Faroe Islands, etc😉
Bro, the asian line is a joke "no matter how good are you at something, there is always some asian kid better than you"
But it do be facts though. One day they will pick team sports and do damage.
Lmao bro really said "he's Asian??"
@@Lg3-Snow I was like "this can't be real" lol
Except sports
Messi won Copa America and his 7th Ballon d'Or after this video was made.
Yessss exactly
And finalisima
The 7th Ballon d'Or is a disgrace. We all know Messi had the worst year every and Lewandowski shoulded won it.
@@Makovsky13 stfu..Lewandowski was ahead only in goals..everything else messi was ahead..won Copa America and was top scorer of the tournament..for most goals there is European golden shoe and lewa won that
@@sukuna6431 before COVID who deserved it? And then Lewi had a other great year but he didn't won the ballon d'or even though he won the UCL
This video is very out of date. Pele just scored another hat trick against his postman in the front yard.
Lmaoo 🤣🤣
Broooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo - yall are something else #lmao
Updated:
Major Trophy: Messi won Major Trophy, Copa America 2021 for his Country🇦🇷, won best player of the tourney and top scorer.
Ballon d'or: He won his 7th ballon d'or in 2021.
Hence,
Winning- Messi
Statistics- King Messi
Awards- Lionel Messi
Eye Test- Greatest Messi
Update
Eye test : your mama is fat
messi goat perıod
🇦🇷Messi 🆚 🇵🇹Ronaldo at the international level
🔸Individual awards
🇦🇷Messi:
🏅1× World Cup Best Player
🏅2× Copa America Best Player
🏅1× Copa America Top Goalscorer
🏅1× U-20 World Cup Best Player
🏅1× U-20 World Cup Top Goalscorer
🏅1× Copa America Best Young Player
🏅1× Copa America Best Goal
🇵🇹Ronaldo:
🏅1× Euro Top Goalscorer (with 3 penalty goals and 2 tap-in goals)
❌Never been the best player of a tournament! 😂😂
🔸Team trophies:
🇦🇷Messi:
🏆1× U-20 World Cup
🏆1× Copa America
🥇1× Olympic Gold
🇵🇹Ronaldo:
🏆1× Euro
🏆1× UEFA Nations League 😂
🇵🇹More goals
🇦🇷More assists
🇦🇷More MOTM awards
🇦🇷More Best Player of the Tournament awards
🇦🇷More Top Goalscorer awards
🇦🇷More trophies
🇦🇷More individual awards
Even at the international level, Ronaldo can't be as good as Messi the GOAT. Media has overrated him because of scoring against Luxembourg, Andorra, Lithuania, Faroe Islands, etc😉
@@arya3832 You kids never understand how ronaldo is hated by his own fans and other whereas when pessi get booed by psg fans they were saying that dont boo him like he score more than 5 goals this season this shows how pessi mentality and how ronaldo mentality😂😂😂Pessi won underserved trophies especially ballon dor where only who is in spain got ballon dor like when ronaldo left real modric get like how a defender can get ballon dor😂😂And when lewa has to won there is so called goat and most defend player get that by just changing the rules that favours him😂😂this shows how ballon dor works and ballon dor lose his value many years ago😂😂😂So I think how states says or trophy but ronaldo is always G.O.A.T player and by the way ronaldo cross pessi by scoring free-kick, So pessi is no more best free-kick taker😂😂😂All pessi fans only takes shit on how states and they don't see who is doing his G.O.A.T things in every team and pessi just leave barca and finished😂😂If you reading this far then you are ronaldo hater or maybe pessi hater😂😂😂
On top of that the nations league title shouldn't really count, it's an extra trophy that Messi doesn't even have in South America.
the debate was ended when Messi won the Copa América for himself, being the top goalscorer, top assistant and the mvp 🐐
Di maria was the mvp of the final 😂 and the debate ended when cr7 won euro
@@adibjr654 im talking about the tournament... Ronaldo aint even be the MVP ☠
@@adibjr654 ??? And what was Cristiano doing during the euro 2016 final?
@@adibjr654 lol stop lying to urself i know its hard to see your ''goat'' getting beat in every categories by the great Messi
🇦🇷🐐Leo Messi is the best international player of the 21st century!
🔻Individual honours
🏅1× World Cup Best Player: 2014
🏅2× Copa America Best Player: 2015, 2021
🏅1× U-20 World Cup Best Player: 2005
🏅1× U-20 World Cup Top Goalscorer: 2005
🏅1× Copa America Best Young Player: 2007
🏅1× Copa America Top Goalscorer: 2021
🏅1× Copa America Best Goal: 2007
🏅4× Copa America Top Assist provider: 2011, 2015, 2016, 2021
🏅1× Olympics Best Football Player (selected by FIFA official website): 2008
🔻Team honours
🏆1× U-20 World Cup: 2005
🏆1× Copa America: 2021
🥇1× Olympic Gold: 2008
🥈1× World Cup runner-up: 2014
🥈3× Copa America runner-up: 2007, 2015, 2016
🔻International records
🌟Most «goals + assists» in major intl tournaments
🌟Most assists in major intl tournaments
🌟Most intl MOTM awards
🌟Most intl individual awards
🌟Most 'Golden Ball/Best Player' awards of intl tournaments
🌟Most MOTM awards in major intl tournaments
🌟Most MOTM awards in World Cup [Shared with C. Ronaldo and A. Robben]
🌟Most successful dribbles in World Cup history
🌟Most assists in Copa America history
🌟Most Copa America 'Golden Ball/Best Player' awards
🌟Most assists in a Copa America
🌟Most MOTM awards in a Copa America
🌟Most MOTM awards in Copa America history
🌟Only player to win the 'Golden Ball/Best Player' awards of 3 different intl tournaments
🌟Only player to be the top goalscorer, top assist provider, best player and champion in an intl tournament
🌟Most assists in South America qualifiers for the World Cup
🌟Most intl goals by a South American player
🌟Most goals for Argentina National Team
🌟Most assists for Argentina National Team
🌟Most hat-tricks for Argentina National Team
🌟Only player to score in his teens, his twenties and his thirties in World Cup
🌟Most World Cup tournaments with at least one assist
🌟Most Copa America tournaments with at least one assist
🌟Most «goals + assists» in intl tournaments' knockout matches
🌟Most free-kick goals in Copa America
Messi has just won the world cup. Messi has won everything.
The debate has been declared over.
Messi is the GOAT !!!
if messi won the world cup thats why hes the goat pele won 3
@@UnBlockel Messi is not the GOAT just because of wc, the world cup made it official as he won at every stage and got every team and individual honor at the highest level.
If you rank Pele above Messi, I would disagree as Messi is a bit better as a footballer, but I will understand
@@defenestratedalien1448 i havent seem him with a ucl in 8 years and where his puskas at?
@@UnBlockel lmfao puskas, where is CR7 trophy in 3 years, any trophy even in the desert.
Don't make me talk of total trophies, bdors, golden boot, iffhs playmaker, olympics and u20, h2h, etc
I don't even have to bring the world cup and CR7 is a tier below
If it’s up to date then Messi takes quite literally every section other than European Winning. He now takes International with the WC, Copa America, and Finalissima and takes the winning category overall.
This video is from 10 months ago and in these 9 months these changes have happened:
- Messi has surpassed Ronaldo at the international level. He won the Copa America last year while being the top goalscorer, top assist provider and best player of it! Ronaldo hasn't been a top assist provider and best player of an international tournament. Not only Messi has more of these individual titles, but also he has more assists and more MOTM awards. Ronaldo has only more goals.
- Messi has 2 more free-kick goals now
- Messi has 7 Ballons d'Or now. He won his 7th Ballons d'Or last year
add world cup to that
But ronaldo won the player of century award.
@@nabamnikum1905Hey genius you know how long a century is 😂??
Messi is just better accept this and know peace
Bruh you need help
Idiot
Ronaldo is better than pessi
Messi now has 7 Ballon D'ors 🐐
Appreciate the comment ✊🏽
Robbed commercial trophy ! No one cares about it no more lmao
@@scoopdidiwoop8907all i gotta say 💀 th-cam.com/video/MQPIcqvMNFk/w-d-xo.html
@@dunsonhouse I’m from the Uk and even the great legend footballers are reconsidering the fact of Messi being the better player stats are showing off right now Messi never left La liga n it’s considered a simpler league for scoring cause of the football philosophy in the Spanish league they are more creative but less accurate on defending so they use to be poor defensively Ronaldo showed his force in all Leagues n it’s just proving year after year that he is indeed the best player breaking every record in football History
@@kennedyojieabulu8712 Calm down, dont let Ronaldo's end of season form confuse you. The records he's breaking now is what he's worked for 2 decades, he's reaping his rewards but is ultimately failing his team.
Spanish league is the league with the least goals scored in the last few years. most teams are Burnley's with better football ability and tactics. Spanish and English leagues have always dominated the 2 top spot the last 20-25, Italian league doesn't sit with these 2.
It's just that Real and Barca were too good for everyone else, that's why both Messi and Cr7 scored most of their goals in that league.
Pele be adding the hattrick he scored against his 4 y/o nephew at the family barbecue.
Y'all gotta finally end this debate. These two are incomparable. We just gotta appreciate witnessing both of them at the same time!
exactly debating this will get us nowhere
and now they are all but done
Na man we have to, It’s criminal comparing the two messi is miles better
@@Emman1906 miles better hahahahahhahahah
exactly, i was a die hard messi fan when I was young but around 2016 I started understanding these guys won’t be here for much longer and I just gotta appreciate them
True Penaldo fan saying they are incomparable after a whole video proved that Messi is better.
Right now Messi has 7 balon dors not 6 and he has won international trophies the Copa America and the Finalissima which I watched live at the stadium (saw Messi do a masterclass). Soon he's gonna win the world cup to end his goated career 🔥
Thank you appreciate the comment
Finalissima is a friendly cup. Why you even mentioning that lmaooo
And Copa America is a joke of a competition. They had to hold it every year instead of every four years just so Messi can finally win it and stop retiring every time he loses on the final. And the Balon d'or doesn't mean shit. It's just a popularity contest. Messi winning it over Lewandowski tells you everything.
@@magicalonso3243 just showed how u don’t know shit about football 💀
@@magicalonso3243 even so the finnalisma is against the team dat won the whole euros. If the team dat beat the whole euro got smacked by Argentina 3-0 even if copa America is easier comp. Den dat just means their more dominant
@@magicalonso3243L
This video is old Messi has already won a international Copa America is like the Euro but American countrys trophy that’s why he got his 7 ballon de Oro and in champions league he has won a final against Ronaldo when he was at Manchester and won again vs Real Madrid in a semifinal Ronaldo has never won more face to face battles than messi messi has beat Ronaldo in a lot of games there is the difference I acknowledge Ronaldo’s greatness but Messi is the best player in the world since he was born records on records he scored more than 500 goals when he was 5 to 8 or 9 years old in his youth club in Argentina then he went to Barcelona broke all records too then he made it to the first club broke all records too with Argentina broke all records the majority of soccer legends and journalists will tell you he is the greatest player to ever play just because of his talent and what he has been doing since a child I mean goalscorer playmaker dribbler shooter the guy does everything no one ever has done the same is soccer for so many years
Nobody cares copa america its not a 4 years tournament now,and theres only two relevant countries brazil and argentina. while uefa euro theres Spain England Portugal France Belgium Germany Crotia etc etc on the last World Cup Crotia with Modric destroyed Argentina same with Mbaple France owned them too
@@mortivoe lol you don’t know about fútbol Copa America is one of the most prestigious trophy’s on soccer after World Cup and Euro it has been around for more years that’s why they create the World Cup so Europeans and American countries can play a tournament messi has got to a World Cup final being the best player of the tournament in 2014 his team was trash he took them to the final he did it in copa america too and in the last World Cup he got them to a semifinal they lose to the champions France because they were a much better team player by player while your boy Ronaldo has never pass the group of stages in 5 world cups has never been the best player of one either has never score against France England or Belgium or Italy and has play a lot of games against them while messi has score to all of those countries search it lol hahahahah he is the international goalscorer scoring hat tricks against Islas feroes Macedonia Israel Lituania and those kind of teams lol
@@mortivoe oh so everyone was saying messi hasn’t won the trophy but now that he does win it you are hating lol, messi doesn’t decide the tournament he plays in mate, but remember Ronaldo has only scored 1 goal against South American teams in 11 total games and he lost most of them 😂
@@arsalan5849 he decides the league he plays in and is rotting in Paris while Ronaldo is carrying a team in the EPL. Also, Ronaldo doesn't need to score against South American teams because he won the Euros which is harder. Ronaldo aging like wine and Messi aging like milk. But, you appear to be the most salty.
@@ShivyEnby yh I’m the one salty? Messi must be shivering aswell cuz sio M said so 😂 mate he’s the player with most individual trophies, one of the most decorated player of all time, most g/a. The goat so I haven’t gotta prove anything else mate it’s well know that anyone that anyone that watches and understands football know that Messi is the undisputed goat, the video proved it when they asked coaches and players the 89-10 😂 stay salty kid
Messi is ART, CREATIVITY, FINESSE, simply a natural born fútbol genius. Ronaldo had to work out hard for it, which is commendable. When it comes to fútbol real greats, GOD extended His favor to the South American continent
This video is from 10 months ago and in these 10 months these changes have happened:
- Messi has surpassed Ronaldo at the international level. He won the Copa America last year while being the top goalscorer, top assist provider and best player of it! Ronaldo hasn't been a top assist provider and best player of an international tournament. Not only Messi has more of these individual titles, but also he has more assists and more MOTM awards. Ronaldo has only more goals.
- Messi has 7 Ballons d'Or now. He won his 7th Ballons d'Or last year
winning copa america is uncomparable to the euros he didnt surpass him internationaly
@@cheesyplays6228 🇦🇷Messi 🆚 🇵🇹Ronaldo at the international level
🔸Individual awards
🇦🇷Messi:
🏅1× World Cup Best Player
🏅2× Copa America Best Player
🏅1× Finalissima Best Player
🏅1× Copa America Top Goalscorer
🏅1× U-20 World Cup Best Player
🏅1× U-20 World Cup Top Goalscorer
🏅1× Copa America Best Young Player
🏅1× Copa America Best Goal
🇵🇹Tap-in merchant:
🏅1× Euro Top Goalscorer (with 3 penalty goals and 2 tap-in goals)
❌Never been the best player of a tournament! 😂😂
🔸Team trophies:
🇦🇷Messi:
🏆1× Copa America
🏆1× Finalissima
🏆1× U-20 World Cup
🥇1× Olympic Gold
🇵🇹Penalty merchant:
🏆1× Euro
🏆1× UEFA Nations League 😂
🇵🇹More goals
🇦🇷More assists
🇦🇷More MOTM awards
🇦🇷More Best Player of the Tournament awards
🇦🇷More Top Goalscorer awards
🇦🇷More trophies
🇦🇷More individual awards
Even at the international level, the penalty & tap-in merchant can't be as good as Messi the GOAT. Media has overrated him because of scoring against Luxembourg, Andorra, Lithuania, Faroe Islands, etc😉
@@cheesyplays6228 now he did
@@cheesyplays6228 now he did
Messi just won the world cup too. The debate is over forever
Plesea, stop it. I am a guy who watched Messi and Ronaldi almost 95% of theri matches, and it was insulting to compare Messi to Cristiano, Messi was so muuuuch better. Only colective titles hold the debate (where Ronaldo had a lot of colective luck), all this champions league and especially with Portugal was sick. In Euro 2016 he had 5 horrible matches and was carried, he was the man with most big chances missed on the tournamente and only palyed well 2 of 7 games (wales and hungray), the other 5 matches were so bad, that his rating was so poor in the tournament that in all rating pages (fotmob, whoscore, sofascore, etc,...) he wasnt even on the best 50 rating players...then the team almost won witouth him the final.
Then the Nations league, they went to the semifinales only once (when CR7 dindt play) and played only 2 matches, and only did a good perfocmance in 1 game in all the tournament vs swizterland...in all others Nations league he has played the group stage, his team was eliminated, only the one he dindt play, his team was succesful.
And in KO stages, Messi has 30 G/A in KO (11 in WC) while Cristiano has only 5 G/A in euros/wc (0 goals contributions in 5 WC KO stages, not even a final, not even a medal), and eliminated by weak temas like USA in gropustages, Uruguay and Morroco!!!!
Messi was 4 best player in the international tournament (x2 best copa america player and x2 best WC player). Cristiano 0 international MVP.
Messi was 2x best assister in the WC (2018 and 2022) and one time they guy with most goal contributions (2022). Cristiano 0.
Messi was 3 times the player with most goals contributions in Copa america with 9!!!. Cristiano 0 times in Euro
Messi was x4 times best assiter of the torunamente, Cristiano 0
Messi has more succesfull dribbles and creating chances in WC history and Copa America History...
Cristiano Ronaldos international carrer in euros and WC are super overrated, only because of winning one super luck Euro by a super weak perfomance overall from him...
Messi carried his team to almost every final being MVP of the tournament, best goalscore, best asstister, best player maker and dribbler (most goals contribution, most dribbles and chances created, etc,...), and Cristiano NEVER did THAT.
U right Nick 😂😂 Pélé really started adding pick-up game stats lmao
after this video, Messi won another ballon d' or, a copa america and the finalissima against the champion of europe Italy. So, by now, the score is 4-0. But the most impressive is that Messi is the best in almost all statistics
People have spent way too long arguing about who is the best. They're both very close to not playing anymore only then will we look back and miss them both being in their prime. A great time to be a footie fan.
Facts appreciate the comment family
Compare 34 year old Messi to 34 year old Ronaldo. Messi is done! No longevity. If Ronaldo at 34 had the season Messi had, Messi fans would never shut up about it.
@@TonyMontanaDS keep talking shit
This Video is Old, Even a lot of people who were saying That Messi is better, (like Lampard) actually changed their minds, because Ronaldo is so consistant and proved ist everywhere. Lampard changed his answer to Ronaldo in a Interview recently.
Yeah the video is old, Messi has a copa america trophy and man of the tournament award and another balon d or lol stats are just a measurement of reality, everything that makes a good footballer a good footballer, Messi is better at than Ronaldo. Goals, assists, dribbles, chances created, free kicks, ect. Messi could go scoreless for 100 games and still have a better goals per game ratio than Ronaldo.
it was meme reference "there is always an asian kid who just better than you, no matter how good you are"
Now
Messi 7 balon dors (indivitual)
plus a Copa America (international)
Balon d’or is a French magazine award. It’s laughable all the noise around it. FIFA Player of the Year award should be more valuable.
Copa America is the third most prestigious national tournament
@@ragnarok283 Messi has 6 FIFA Player of the Year awards and Ronaldo has😂
Translation
Messi won a a micky mouse trophy called Copa America which has only 3 good teams
and now then he robbed the ballon dór as he always does
@@Roadto15RealMadrid Cry more😂
🐐Leo Messi deserved his 7th Ballon d'Or
🔸50 matches, 40 goals, 14 assists
🏅Copa America Best Player
🏅Most goals in LaLiga (23)
🏅Most goals in Copa America (4)
🏅Most assists in Copa America (5)
🏅Most key passes (117)
🏅Most successful dribbles (224)
🏅Most MOTM awards (27)
🏅Most points won by G/A (39)
🏅Most winning G/A (15)
🏅Copa America champion
🏅Copa del Rey champion
🔸Stats from January 1, 2021 (first day of the year) until October 25, 2021 (end day of Ballon d'Or voting)
#LM7 👑
@@Roadto15RealMadrid And Olympic Gold >>> Nations League. Ronaldo was eliminated in the group stage😂😂
Messi: (the last 2 years, 2020-2022)
+1 world cup
+1 Copa America
+1 Ballon D'or
+1 Golden Ball
+2 Ligue 1 champion
Ronaldo: (Last 2 years, 2020 - 2022)
NOTHING 💀💀
man literally heard what is as simple as '2 is greater 1' and still refuses to believe it...
Now messi even won the world cup. Its 100% over now
Penalties
@@JoeMama-ly1kc Delusion
lets not forget how ronaldo was a winger at the start of his career and had to change his play style and adapt to the teams whereas messi had a similar role throughout the years
No thats not true. Messi played right winger until 2010 when guardiola decide to put him in false 9. That's why Zlatan left Barcelona btw. He didnt want to play on the right. And when the MSN was formed, Messi went back to the right. When neymar left, he started playing as a midfielder (#10 position).
@@Master-sb3jn you aren’t wrong in saying that because that is actually true, but my point being look at how ronaldo plays now due to his injury and having to convert into a striker whereas messi has been able to stay in his comfort zone as the false 9 and most play styles are adapted around him, but for ronaldo’s case he’s had to change to fit the teams and become the infamous striker he is today
@@amanmohammed5386 so yes thats a great achievement by Ronaldo. I respect how he's been able to be impactful after changing his position. But the fact that the team play around messi is also true. But it's because of his talent that it can be done.
@@amanmohammed5386 And that's why they're different. When Messi isn't scoring goals, he becomes more of a midfielder and the brains of an attack. This is why play styles are adjusted to meet Messi's.
I’m a Barca fan and Messi went from a pure winger to a inverted winger to a false 9 to a midfielder his roles throughout the years definitely changed but I get what you mean by your comment. Probably should’ve worded it differently
I am from future, it is not a debate now
Ronaldo fans always give Messi credit but as you'll continue to see in these comments the Messi fans are forever salty towards Ronaldo. Both are 🐐 and anyone who thinks there's only one is clearly delusional.
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It not all Messi fans, if you were to say that they are salty. Myself Being a Messi fan, i got huge respect for Ronaldo, though i don't support him in particular, but what he's done/ achieved in terms of Numbers, is remarkable. He's finishing ability's unreal. Don't say Messi fans, it's rather always the group of people on both the sides, who throw the hate on each other( Not all on either side of the debate are salty, is what i had to say, in short)
Ronaldo is too arrogant which is why I don't like him.
Ronaldo came from being a midifield to a stricker, was criticised for dribbling adversarys even when it was not necessary. After his knee injury, he should adapt his game and limit dribbling becoming just a goal machine.
Here a video of his begginings : th-cam.com/video/zZPnPzQgN1Y/w-d-xo.html
Messi won in 2021 Capa America this vid is old but he won it last year
🇦🇷🐐Leo Messi is the best international player of the 21st century!
🔻Individual honours
🏅1× World Cup Best Player: 2014
🏅2× Copa America Best Player: 2015, 2021
🏅1× U-20 World Cup Best Player: 2005
🏅1× U-20 World Cup Top Goalscorer: 2005
🏅1× Copa America Best Young Player: 2007
🏅1× Copa America Top Goalscorer: 2021
🏅1× Copa America Best Goal: 2007
🏅4× Copa America Top Assist provider: 2011, 2015, 2016, 2021
🏅1× Olympics Best Football Player (selected by FIFA official website): 2008
🔻Team honours
🏆1× U-20 World Cup: 2005
🏆1× Copa America: 2021
🥇1× Olympic Gold: 2008
🥈1× World Cup runner-up: 2014
🥈3× Copa America runner-up: 2007, 2015, 2016
🔻International records
🌟Most «goals + assists» in major intl tournaments
🌟Most assists in major intl tournaments
🌟Most intl MOTM awards
🌟Most intl individual awards
🌟Most 'Golden Ball/Best Player' awards of intl tournaments
🌟Most MOTM awards in major intl tournaments
🌟Most MOTM awards in World Cup [Shared with C. Ronaldo and A. Robben]
🌟Most successful dribbles in World Cup history
🌟Most assists in Copa America history
🌟Most Copa America 'Golden Ball/Best Player' awards
🌟Most assists in a Copa America
🌟Most MOTM awards in a Copa America
🌟Most MOTM awards in Copa America history
🌟Only player to win the 'Golden Ball/Best Player' awards of 3 different intl tournaments
🌟Only player to be the top goalscorer, top assist provider, best player and champion in an intl tournament
🌟Most assists in South America qualifiers for the World Cup
🌟Most intl goals by a South American player
🌟Most goals for Argentina National Team
🌟Most assists for Argentina National Team
🌟Most hat-tricks for Argentina National Team
🌟Only player to score in his teens, his twenties and his thirties in World Cup
🌟Most World Cup tournaments with at least one assist
🌟Most Copa America tournaments with at least one assist
🌟Most «goals + assists» in intl tournaments' knockout matches
🌟Most free-kick goals in Copa America
🇦🇷Messi 🆚 🇵🇹Ronaldo at the international level
🔸Individual awards
🇦🇷Messi:
🏅1× World Cup Best Player
🏅2× Copa America Best Player
🏅1× Copa America Top Goalscorer
🏅1× U-20 World Cup Best Player
🏅1× U-20 World Cup Top Goalscorer
🏅1× Copa America Best Young Player
🏅1× Copa America Best Goal
🇵🇹Ronaldo:
🏅1× Euro Top Goalscorer (with 3 penalty goals and 2 tap-in goals)
❌Never been the best player of a tournament! 😂😂
🔸Team trophies:
🇦🇷Messi:
🏆1× U-20 World Cup
🏆1× Copa America
🥇1× Olympic Gold
🇵🇹Ronaldo:
🏆1× Euro
🏆1× UEFA Nations League 😂
🇵🇹More goals
🇦🇷More assists
🇦🇷More MOTM awards
🇦🇷More Best Player of the Tournament awards
🇦🇷More Top Goalscorer awards
🇦🇷More trophies
🇦🇷More individual awards
Even at the international level, Ronaldo can't be as good as Messi the GOAT. Media has overrated him because of scoring against Luxembourg, Andorra, Lithuania, Faroe Islands, etc😉
@@arya3832 couldn’t agree more 🤝
@@arya3832 Pathetic pessi fan under everyone comment trying to prove a point
6 of those stats are from Copa America (the worst over-rated international trophy)
all of those mick mouse awards and Messi is still 5th in all-time international goal scorer list 🤣🤣🤣
that proves everything
Finished pessi cant even score in Farmers league while Ronaldo is top 3 in premier league
Barcelona product who has been handed everything in his career and he went to PSG to get even more handouts
@@Roadto15RealMadrid Penaltiano Tapinaldo🤡
0 Ballons d'Or in the last 4 years🤣🤣🤣
0 Golden Boots in the last 6 years🤣🤣🤣
Only 2 free-kick goals in the last 4 years🤣🤣🤣
He was finished 4 years ago🤣🤣
He is alive by tap in and penalty goals🤣🤣🤣
He is nothing without Kroos, Modric and Marcelo🤣🤣🤣
He is sh!t at plymaking and drbbling🤣🤣🤣
He can't even be the best player of an international tournament🤣🤣🤣
Won't be in the UCL next season😢😭😭
Truly overrated🤢Not even one of the top 5 players in football history 👎
To be fair He failed to mention that Pele has a higher goal ratio per games, having score 767 goals in 831 games. To Messi 's 756 goals in 949 games
Pele is a fraud bro
@@n_tech0939 in what way? show proof.
@@DaddyAZTL changed his goals number after he got outscored
@@daniilmilman2400 he does have 1258 goals. They just so happened to be in friendlies which were taken as serious matches during his Era. Doesn't make him a fraud if you understand history
Messi won copa América and the 7th Ballon d'or last year
Now WC
Facts , you can prefer Ronaldo , that's your choice, but for me just watching them was enough
Been waiting for this one💤
He said some suspicious things like Ronaldo putting up better numbers in Madrid than in Manchester because he was “better surrounded” .That is simply not true ,this difference in numbers came after a big change in his playing style , a massive improvement on his efficiency and a lower level league
exactly, he didnt mention ALOT of major stuff
That’s what he meant, he didn’t have to carry his team anymore so he was allowed to be at the top ready for tap ins. It’s self explanatory
@@jairosoto3445 he wasn’t carrying united either wtf. the 2007 man united team was on steroids.
@@oneshak of course he wasn’t, but it’s like hazard at Chelsea, there’s more freedom when the team is weaker
@@jairosoto3445 again, how on earth was man united’s 2007 team weaker than any madrid team? that’s far from true. The man united 2007 is arguably better than real madrid’s 2017-19 team. he had prime rooney right next to him and a world class Carlos tevez.
You guys should react to “what happens if messi and ronaldo on the same team”, that video is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
After winning 2 international trophies and another balon dor realy ending debate
Not really. Stats matter more in my opinion. If that was the case then R9 Maradona, Pele would be better because they all won the World Cup. Nah my boi, Messi better with or without international trophies
respecting greatest goal scorer of all time the legendary cr7 his trophies 5 ballndor euro and top ucl record which no one ever breaks again the greatest of all time is still Messi with Copa America trophy la Liga legend Europe legend and his no one gonna break his 7th ballndor.
And by the way, Messi won copa America last summer so he's taking International trophies with him. He's simply the goat of this sport and, if someone say opposite, then he is not honest.
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🇦🇷Messi 🆚 🇵🇹Ronaldo at the international level
🔸Individual awards
🇦🇷Messi:
🏅1× World Cup Best Player
🏅2× Copa America Best Player
🏅1× Copa America Top Goalscorer
🏅1× U-20 World Cup Best Player
🏅1× U-20 World Cup Top Goalscorer
🏅1× Copa America Best Young Player
🏅1× Copa America Best Goal
🇵🇹Ronaldo:
🏅1× Euro Top Goalscorer (with 3 penalty goals and 2 tap-in goals)
❌Never been the best player of a tournament! 😂😂
🔸Team trophies:
🇦🇷Messi:
🏆1× U-20 World Cup
🏆1× Copa America
🥇1× Olympic Gold
🇵🇹Ronaldo:
🏆1× Euro
🏆1× UEFA Nations League 😂
🇵🇹More goals
🇦🇷More assists
🇦🇷More MOTM awards
🇦🇷More Best Player of the Tournament awards
🇦🇷More Top Goalscorer awards
🇦🇷More trophies
🇦🇷More individual awards
Even at the international level, Ronaldo can't be as good as Messi the GOAT. Media has overrated him because of scoring against Luxembourg, Andorra, Lithuania, Faroe Islands, etc😉
@@arya3832 The Copa America has much less competition than the Euros, and Olympic tournaments and under 20 world cups don't count.
@@arya3832 Best goal? You better be joking.
@@riquetc0060 No
I live in reality, unlike you!
And he is kind of a midfielder just imagine a midfielder scoring that many goals and having that many assists and having the most successful dribbles
And having a smaller body you know how hard its running through people who are taller and stronger than you
Sorry bro messi almost played his whole career as a centre forward what do you mean kind of a midfilder at barca he was a number 10. Ronaldo played his first years of his career as a left midfielder and still scored a lot of goals that is amazing.
It's never been a debate & u already know who I mean
Messi is Argentine/Spanish. The Asian line is like saying "the Asian kid will always be better at math than you"
This video is spot on. Ronaldo could never be considered the greatest player of all time. He is the 4th greatest player of all time. Only Maradona, Messi and Pele can claim an argument to top spot. Eye test speaks for itself as do opinions of other players.
Brazilian Ronaldo was much greater than Cristiano from the eye-test
@@kcuba2741 True. R9 could have been the second best if he wasnt injured
Pele > Ronaldo
Eye test is overrated
the video creator choosed the stats he liked more..
100. He is definitely biased. Great video but he showed clips of Ronaldo skying the ball but beautiful pass sequences from Messi. Ronaldo in that united team played some of the most blistering counter attack football. Ronaldo has something that in unqauntifiable! Love them both thp
Messi has a world cup now. I guess the debate is over
The "Asian" thing is because there is a saying: "it doesn't matter how good you are, there will always be an Asian better than you". It was just a metaphor saying that it doesn't matter how good you are (referring to Ronaldo) there will always be an Asian kid better than you (referring to Messi even though Messi is not from Asia).
So is there a Chinese kid who's actually better Messi but we'll never know 'cause he'll never get the opportunity?!?
This statistik video has one single problem. Correct me if i'm wrong, but Cr7 played professionally for 4 clubs in 4 different leagues in his career so long and he had to adapt every time and we all saw his style changing from Left/Right winger (showman) to a striker ( goal maschine) while Messi played just for barcelona till last year and wee see him having problems at PSG at the moment.
Thats a thing what you can not put in this statistic i know, but it's very important! I respect Messi, for me is CR7 the bigger goat.
you do realize Messi also changed position as well rn we cant tell if hes a mid or a winger but most likely a winger and its ok to have Ronaldo as your goat but all the stats say Messi is better but Ronaldo is definitely one of the greats
@@sky3down367 you do realize he changed positions with the same players at the same club and the same league?
And now he changed the team and the league for the first time in his career and he scored his 4th and 5th goal in the last game of the season.
That tells us a lot about Ronaldo.
@@cl65bozz yeah but in the end of the day its all about if you want to change clubs and messi just didn't that doesn't help in the goat debate at all, exaplme in the mj vs LeBron of who's the goat not a single person uses the fact that lebron was in 4 different team and put up huge numbers and won with all 3 (1 he joined 2 time) why cause mj was only in the bulls and only when he left and was retired for 2-3 years did he start doing bad that he had to retire.
the fact that they take penalty goals away shows his bias, whats wrong with penalties? or showing ronaldo miss a lot of shots. it only focused on the statistics where messi has better numbers. im not saying ronaldo is better, but to compare messi and ronaldo is just stupid. thats because they play for different teams, position, and also have different playstyle. i personally like ronaldo more, but that dosent mean i think he is better than messi, it also dosent mean messi is better, ( better ) dosent exist. they are different and have their own values. 2 goats
The moment he took penalties out and didn’t mention anything about athleticism shows just how biased he was. These two can’t be compared because of to many factors.
@@MaxXxFlame does scoring better penalties make him better?
@@pitamberarora6232 it’s part of the game, is it not?
If It would not have made a difference, he would have added them.
Also, Messi lost many cups/qualifications because of missed penalties. So yes, scoring goals even as “simple” as penalties does in fact make the player better.
Only makes sense to make this video once they both retire
Nice video my brothers in christ
We all know that Messi is the best it's clear to see ✌👑
Also he finally won’t the copa America last year I believe or the year before
If there is an updated video which I hope there is… it would only help Messi with him winning a Copa America for Argentina and his 7th Ballon Dor (most all time)
7:22 Lmaooo almost took Mookie's jaw off 🤣
😂
The dude has cleverly or unknowingly left other important stats in favor of Messi. Smh
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Stats, honours and eye test are biased because they say Messi is the GOAT💀
@@arya3832 sound like a blind Messi lover 🤷🏽♂️
@@arya3832 cant tell if this is a joke seen too much ronadlo fans saying stuff that's irreverent (so im guessing this is right cause Ronaldo fans are making me lose braincells
I’ve been a fan of ronaldo since i was 9/10 i mean since 2005 , yes i love him and all , but i enjoy watching messi too , but messi is the g.o.a.t and that’s not shaming ronaldo at all , i consider myself and this generation as lucky af to watch this two players for more than 15 years 🔥
Ballon d’or is like winning mvp and mvp of the finals combined. Means that you has played the best season that year.
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11:05 😂😂 there’s only one goat
The video is slightly biased towards Messi because he spends way more time going into detail about Messi than Ronaldo. He doesn't talk about a lot of the things Ronaldo does better and how moving to different leagues is way more impressive than staying in one league for almost his whole career.
Moving from other leagues Don't make him better, totti didn't move from Roma , that doesn't change the fact he is one of the best
Moving to diffirent league to end their winning streak is not GOAT peeformance😂😂
bro its not difficult moving leagues
when you have played for the biggest club in england,the biggest in the world and the biggest in italy
@@mmor7380 I'm not saying it makes him better. I'm saying the video creator never highlights it. And if you think moving leagues and still being that good is insignificant then you're clearly lying to yourself. Messi to PSG alone is enough proof.
@@collinyt3601 struggling how?
he isnt a striker so goals isnt his main concern
He plays very deep and is unselfish and is one assist behind mbappe
Not to mention his teamates especially mbappe dont even want to pass to him
Ronaldo just like always gets the reward for all the creativity of his teamates
Messi still has a better goals to game ratio with only 5 goals in a season
says its all
Not really related to this video, but yall should react to Guti Hernandez, he played as a midfielder for real madrid and had incredible vision and passing skills
do you take reaction requests?
amazing how he didn't mention portugal's achievements at all he only mentioned argentina's -_- even if portugal is a weaker team . and amazing how he doesn't care about how they lost . you can learn a lot from how a person lost
He mentioned Portugal’s wins though and now Messi has a copa finally
@@juanemanuelalmonte6033 achievements read again . wins and losses
@@abysswalker9677 achievements arent just wins and losses tho
he mentioned the trophies which is the most important
Huh? Bro he literally mentioned the trophies and gave the point to Ronaldo what else do you want?
@@arsalan5849 i want him to go through all their losses also and who contributed to it . he went through messi's losses because that's all he has but he needs to do the same with ronaldo . same argument people make with lebron he reached the finals . same thing i ask go through each year they were playing wether club on nation and tell me what they did in that season that should be a way better way to judge who's better . obviously if he did that it would be clear that ronaldo is better . he's biased and he uses stats to lie to people
Lol, This video is biased af, even tho I think Messi is the best player ever but this video doesn't do Ronaldo any justice (showing bad highlights of him but not Messi for example) and this video doesn't say that Messi has a team that plays for him and for him only since 2007 while Ronaldo was on different teams (now you can see that he's "strugling" at PSG because PSG plays around Mbappe and not Messi, being on a new team is not that easy). The best way to compare the 2 would be actually to only consider stats when they played in the same league.
Also winning 2 trophies with Portgugal is one of the most underrated thing that Ronaldo has done. No disrespect to Copa America but since 18 years European competitions are way harder than South America competitions .
Respect to both Goats
thank you at least someone who understood. I also wrote a similar comment. so many details and backgrounds were not taken into account and then they try to keep ronaldo as small as possible with an 18-minute video. Almost as if he didn't deserve to be compared to messi for the last 15 years.
Thank you thats the same Im seein
Since this video:
Messi won Copa America
Messi won 7th Ballon D’or
Messi won World Cup
MESSI ELITE CLASS
😂 His 7th Ballon Dors was a joke you is just an emotional chick
@@danielfreitaz7823 you stupid Benchaldo FAN cr7 Is so bad CR7 TOP 900 player in the world MESSI 1 cr7 finished dead
@@danielfreitaz7823 you cry more🤣🤣🤣🤣
You know why football has much stat? Cuz football is the game of tactic not just scoring thing. And i tell you this stat just not enough to show how great messi really is. If you want to know how crazy messi just watch fullmatch of football instead of just clip.
Damn the dude who make this video is really a messi fan
Lol you think so
Stats, honours and eye test are Messi fans because they say Messi is the GOAT💀
Id take Diego Maradona over both of them
Despite Messi being the best dribbler/close control player ever, and CR7 being the most versatile (in his peak) and both were better goal scorers. If I was going to build a team around anyone it would be Maradona, and Diego is a better captain than both and was famed for taking lesser team mates and getting the best out of them, in other words I can build more all time teams that work with Maradona than any other IMO
I do however think Messi at his peak was the best Wing Forward ever, and CR7 was the best Forward across both wings and the center.
None of these players are the best finisher I have ever seen, that was Romario, but all 3 other players are better all round players than Romario (although Romario was very good, not just the greatest of finishers)
Maradona is the best number 10 ever and can play attacking mid, winger/wing forward/wing back, central mid, number 10, second striker/false9 to a standard as good as pretty much anyone, until Messi came along Maradona was the best dribbler/close control player ever.
Having said all this if we are talking peak, Id take peak R9 and R10 over anyone, they just both did not do it for long enough at the crazy level. Messi , CR7 and Diego for sure did that, and arguably so did Romario
There are way more than just 2 in the conversation stats aint everything
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Maradona didnt do it at the top for long either tho. No one did except for these two. Thats the difference.
Bruh...you are just maradona fan boy...he is no way near just admit it...
Stats are technically everything. Especialls if you included Dribbling and key moves made Into that which the Video did. You can say you prefer other players but tbh statistically messi and ronaldo are better than Maradona.
Messi está 10 veces encima de Maradona
Man Mookie Dont Know Nothin About Sports Forreal...I Taught Em Everything He Know
I didn't know about these stats either, been watching football for 20 years
Messi all the way
Hahahahah
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🇦🇷Messi vs Ronaldo🇵🇹
🔻General stats
🇦🇷More goal contributions (G/A)
🇵🇹More goals (with 150 more games)
🇦🇷More assists
🇦🇷More MOTM awards
🇦🇷More successful dribbles
🇦🇷More outside the box goals
🇦🇷🇵🇹Equal numbers of free-kick goals
🇵🇹More penalty goals
🇵🇹More header goals
🇦🇷More key passes
🇦🇷More big chances created
🔻Most prestigious individual awards
🇦🇷More Ballons d'Or
🇦🇷More FIFA POTY awards
🇵🇹More UEFA POTY awards
🇦🇷More Golden Boots
🇦🇷More World Cup Golden Balls
🇦🇷More Best Player awards of major international tournaments
🇦🇷🇵🇹Equal numbers of Top Goalscorer awards of major international tournaments
🇵🇹More UEFA Forward of the Year awards
🇵🇹More Puskas awards
🇵🇹More UCL Top Goalscorer awards
🇦🇷More Top Goalscorer awards of domestic leagues
🇦🇷More IFFHS World's Best Playmaker awards
🇦🇷More UEFA Goal of the Season awards
🇦🇷More Laureus Sportsman of the Year awards
It shouldn't be a debate.
There is clearly a huge difference between a great goalscorer and a great goalscorer, great passer, great playmaker and great dribbler!
🇦🇷Most complete and best player in football history🐐👑
This video is a bit biased towards Messi, I would still pick him though. But I think Messi played with slightly better teammates, which isn't minor in this sport.
how is it bias? I understand the fact that Messi played with Iniesta and Xavi but he prove that he's as good with Argentina. And in 2019 to 2021, he showed that he didnt need them to win.
@@Master-sb3jn Copa America isn’t hard to win, Move to the Euros and he probably won’t even qualify
@@Dippa1991 lol i dont even need to answer you. If you think that, ur just stupid and i feel sorry for you
@@Dippa1991 Man has only been watching Euros.... Copa ain't hard? Look at the physicality levels there, try playing someone from Euros in Copa, they won't stand a chance. If Messi played for a European Country, or lets just assume Argentina's in Europe, they be having better than most of the team in Europe rn, considering the form they in. Any Copa America team, say Argentina/ Brazil/ Uruguay/Mexico/Columbia, would not have hard time if they were to play in the Euros.
Stats, honours and eye test are biased because they say Messi is the GOAT💀
Since this video posted Messi won a World Cup lol
Saying Ronaldo has better athleticism is a minus, cause Messi has a disadvantage in athleticism and still managed to get to the top, also saying Ronaldo is outplaying Messi at an older age also goes back to their difference in physique, Messi is still greater in my opinion, though I love CR7.
As Ray hudson said , how can you emasure what Messi does by statistics , No doubt Messi is above Ronaldo and the debatw is actually between Messi , Maradona & Pele . Ronaldo is a great goalscorer and a legend no doubt , but Messi is better at everything and the most complete player ever . Btw , the winning argument was wrong even here without the new updates where Messi has finally broke his bad luck and won the Copa America and his international career is so impressive even before winning this title , but because he is the greatest people always demanded Messi a WC and he was so close to win it , whereas Ronaldo was never demanded that simply because the poeple who actually know the game and are unbiased they say without a doubt , that there is no debate .
the fact that ronaldo did it in diferent leagues, and still doing it in the best league in the world says it all...🐐
Fax🤣😂
True Ronaldo I believe is very good and joining other teams since he’s used to that while Messi has always been a Barca kid and chose loyalty however doesn’t take awake what Messi can bring to the table
@@juanemanuelalmonte6033 what as Messi done this season? Playing with all that talent behind him... Nothing
That doesn't matter, people keep saying that like with that make him the greatest, is just a factor ,not a definitive factor
acting like it was difficult when he moved to the best team in each league
messi was with barca thru the highs and lows
Shout out to you mookie 😂😂🔥🔥🔥🔥
Last year Messi won Copa America for Argentina, his most important international trophy, this video isn't updated
4 goals and 12 assists that Messi for u this season 😂 18 goals and 6 assists that Ronaldo for U 😂 one took beating from Liverpool, Roma , and Bayern Munich and run to PSG like a bitch just to play alongside Neymar and Mbappe 😂
Calm down bro
Don't cry, one season doesn't change the fact that Messi is the GOAT!
Tf u likes this comment for lmao
@@Messi_the_Alien exactly this season he is doing way better
I think when it comes to goat debates, it’s all subjective no matter what people say, as people ultimately choose their “goat” by their emotions and playing style preferences. For me, my “eye-test” tells me the Brazilian Ronaldo is the undisputed goat with respect to CR7 & Messi’s unmatched stats & accomplishments simply by looking at their primes and difficulty, in terms of the eras they played in.
Appreciate the comment ✊🏽
So many of the “advanced stats” were from 2009 later while Ronaldo had already been playing for seven years. The fact Ronaldo could move around and dominate everywhere is something Messi can’t.
You technically you can’t say that, since Messi never bounced around teams while at his peak. He left Barcelona at 34. So it’s not that Messi couldn’t do that, he chose not to. The fact that ronaldo went to play in Spain and Messi out performed nearly every year is something with a bit more substance.
@@Gino565 you can argue Messi had better teammates his whole time in Spain and if me or you had done the tax stuff Messi had done we’d have been in jail a long time ago. I’m just saying based off the “advanced stats” the video proclaims almost half of Ronaldo’s career isn’t looked at. I think they are the two best players of all time, I would give Messi the edge slightly, but I would give the wow factor to Ronaldo.
@@matthewedmundson6408 you're let off in Spain if it's your first time doing tax fraud, you ain't going to jail hermano.
I Love your Love for Lionel Messi 🔥🐐🔥💪🏻❤️🇦🇷 please more reactions
The video forgot to talk about:
Versatility
Key games/important moments
Level of the teams played against
Stats in UCL (totally fair because is the best competition)
Balloon dor points
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In general the video didnt talked about stats that ronaldo is better, i mean it talked anout dribbling, passing and shots, but not about speed, athleticism, physical or even extreme long shots.
I know that messi is great and maybe better but the video is clearly on messi side.
messi wins almost in all statistics
@@SinisAndres the stats that the parcial video showed.
the vid does talk about those qualities but those aren't stats that necessarily affect the game
@@andrefernandes765 so you’re saying that versatility and key games are less important than eye test?
@@MagomedAnkalaev_oficial i meant specifically speed, athleticism and strength. we all know ronaldo has the edge, but its kind of like Neville's and Carragher's arguement last yr with Messi v Ronaldo... even with those stats u mentioned, which arent stats (but attributes) - Messi still produces a better goal and assist ratio + higher expected xpg, and is more productive on the pitch despite him lacking in the attributes which u mentioned.
Its true the vid didnt go in depth about that, but if u read far enough what i wrote above, it probs makes sense why^
The video also doesn't mention the no. of goals and assists in finals played.
1. Messi played in Spain 99% of his career it's obvious why his statistics are better
2. Ronaldo played in England the most difficult league
3. Barcelona is on average better than all the teams Ronaldo played maybe except for Real Madrid under Zidane's management
5. Conmebol the Federation in which Argentina plays is much easier than UEFA
6. Ronaldo is hated by many many people and everyone loves Messi.
7. Ronaldo was robbed of the Balon d'or in 2018, the Puskás award in 2018 and ma y other prizes. They robbed the Balon d'or for Messi at least twice, robbed from Lewandowski and Salah, maybe even more robing from Neymar and Sjneider. Ronaldo has on average more points on Balon d'or.
If things were fair it would be at least 6x6 on Balon d'or maybe 6x5 to Ronaldo.
8. In 2021 Messi won Copa America but that competition is easier than UEFA Euro, there are less teams, Argentina is a much better footballing nation than Portugal a tyne country and Copa America 2021 shouldn't exit because they did another Copa America in 2019. Messi won so congratulations to him but these nunaces matter. You can't compare Portugal with Argentina and Copa America with the UEFA Euro.
There are nuances that this video don't show! Ronaldo was robbed of many awards and he has been decisive against big team, bigger competitions, bigger leagues while Messi destroys the smaller teams more often. Respect to both, I am not a hater of Messi but these nuances that are hidden in the details make me side more with Ronaldo. It's a matter of justice.
You say you’re not a hater of Messi, but you clearly are. You just typed up an essay about how Ronaldo has been disrespected and is better. You say ronaldo played in England the most difficult league. Was it? Back then ronaldo played for Manchester United. Who won the league nearly every single year. La liga was the best league in the world from 2007-2016, and that’s supported by the performance of the average la liga team and the average premier league team. Saying that Messi robbed the ballon d’Or from salah and lewandowski is absolutely moronic. And it’s downright disgusting for you to claim neymar or sneijder should’ve won it instead of him also. The amount of people in this comment section that have zero idea when it comes to football is absolutely staggering.
@@Gino565 I played football at the academy level, I lived near a training ground were the Brazilian National Team and many other elite Brazilian clubs have training sessions regularly. I also work with football.
I respect everything Messi has done. I am not one who seriously call him Pessi or disrespect him but I am real and 4/7 Messi's Balon d'or are in question. 2012 Sjneider won the Champions League, the one won in 2015 Neymar was the most important player for Barcelona, his 7th everyone knows Lewandowski was the best player that season, the one in 2019 Salah was the better player, in 2018 Ronaldo was robbed because of the hype around Croatia and Modric. Modric is a top top player but he was not the most important player for Real Madrid nor for the Croatian national team, Ronaldo was absolutely robbed of the Puskás in 2018 and everyone knows. Show the overhead kick vs Juve in the UCL semifinal vs the close to the line outside the box scored by Salah to any person and ask them which is prettier. 99% will say it was the overhead kick. I am not saying that Messi should have only 3, 4 Balon d'or but I am saying that they clearly robbed one of Ronaldo 100% and some of Messi's are in question but 5, 6 would still be decently fair. Messi is adored by television commentators, pundits, players etc, Ronaldo is hated by so many people, they created this aurea that Ronaldo is incredibly selfish, egocentric, the worse person there is but that impression is not correct and that impression influences negatively how the view him and that reflects in many awards that are voted by these people and the opinion they give.
About La Liga: absolutely incredible competition, the second most important league, Barcelona and Real Madrid are two of the biggest teams in football maybe the two biggest, Real Madrid the biggest (I am not a fan), their team always do well in the UCL and Europa league but the half bottom of the table is crowded with awful small teams and Messi and Ronaldo score 20, 30, 40 goals on them each season. Messi had that privilege from the beginning but in the Premier League the teams that from from the Championship are far superior, the Premier League pays a lot of money to the relegated team, to the small teams, completely the opposite of La Liga were Real Madrid and Barcelona are too far ahead of anybody. Atlético has closed the gap but it's it, there is not the same level of competition as the Premier League or Serie A even with Juventus dominating.
It's impossible for humans to trust each other specially via the internet but I tell you this again: ALL the respect to Lionel Messi, he is great, to me he is number 2 in history, above Pele my Brazilian hero but there are details that make me think Ronaldo is the GOAT. You can disagree and that's fine by me but don't say that I am a hater or that I have bias because I don't. I used to hate Messi in the past but that was stupid from me, he is great and I have nothing but respect. I appreciate his football a lot. You can use the La Liga stats to show he is better I'll be using these details to prove that Ronaldo is a little far ahead. You can't compare La Liga with PL, can't compare Conmebol with UEFA. I am not Mark Goldbridge saying La Liga is finished, Real Madrid is finished etc but half bottom of La Liga is just very below the level of the Premier League and Messi had elevated his stats against those team during his 17 years at Barcelona, Ronaldo had 9 with Real.
What is this shit?
@@MattZaycYT nobody cares about your academy roots mate. Ronaldo played for a man utd side that had done a 3 peat of the league. Real Madrid was a very good team. Ronaldo didn't adapt he was a striker at Madrid. Other players usually adapt their passing style to feed the striker.
You know he Messi fan when he mentioned Ronaldo had better teammates 😂😂😂💀💀💀
Debatable
Ronaldo won 3 ucl in a row for Madrid, and when he left they won again.
And Messi just won a word cup yesterday lol
CR7 will always be the G.O.A.T for me⚽️❤️🇵🇹
You’ll always been stupid
Messi will be for me but god I love watching Ronaldo play truly is an amazing striker
as he should
we all have our opinions and he is a wonderful player
@@juanemanuelalmonte6033 lol I really like watching Messi too. I think he’s the smartest football player ever⚽️💯
CR7 = Can't Reach 7
This is real bias towards Messi. Ronaldo been crazy this season compared to Messi and a lot of people that said Messi the GOAT now sayin CR7 is. Either way they both legends no doubt.
Thats because people are flip flops and far too reactionary
@@Heatwave9000 and the fact that ronaldo is known more (hes literally one of if not the most known celebrity ever) which will help him in a debate sinc epeople can just say "well sinc hes bigger hes probably better"
For me, Ronaldo best player. I watch football not for the sake of statistics, but how they play and since 2008 I have fallen in love with football watching Ronaldo games.
Messi he’s a goat he’s way better than Ronaldo even tho I like Ronaldo too But you have to giving him credit 🙌🏾
The problem with these advanced stats is that they’re only available after around 2015. It’s no doubt Messi’s been the better player since then since Ronaldo is older and thus he’s gonna pass his prime earlier.
If you only looked at stats before 2010 it’d tell you Ronaldo was better because he was closer to his prime while Messi was a young player.
Today, Messi is closer to his prime while Ronaldo is an old player.
Stats that only take subsets of their careers will be bias, you have to take the whole thing. If you take the stats too earlier it’ll say Ronaldo is better and if you set the stats too late (like this video) it’ll say Messi’s better.
Although advanced stats are good, if I were the creator of this video, I would’ve ignored all stats that are only available after a certain date. The question is who’s had the better career, not who’s been better since 2015.
You do realise messi won 2 balon dors and was breaking records that time aswell? Young Messi was unplayable and Ronaldo’s prime was 16/17/18 even tho he won those champions league messi was still out scoring him and was the better player
@@arsalan5849 Ronaldo prime WAS NOT 16/17/18, u clearly didn’t watch him in 2013 or 2014
@@Dippa1991 oh nice even then Whatever season was his prime isn’t even top 3 seasons for messi 😂
Cristiano the G.O.A.T 🐐🔥
Only in the delusions of Penaldogs.
There is clearly a huge difference between a great goalscorer and a great goalscorer, great passer, great playmaker and great dribbler!
Messi: Most complete and best player in football history👑
@@Messi_the_Alien Still ain´t choosing Messi if my life depends on it. Cristiano step up more than him in Crucial moments.
@@imricardochumpitaz That's why Messi has the most goals and most assists in finals.
Don't worry Mookie. This video only shows a part of the larger picture. There's so much more to consider.
Where did they get the stats from?
Bro Messi’s World Cup run in 2014 was rigged blatter hated Ronaldo so he rigged the group stage for Argentina they had easy games until leading up to the final and he played like dawg shit the World Cup he didn’t do anything in the final
🇦🇷🐐Leo Messi is the best international player of the 21st century!
🔻Individual honours
🏅1× World Cup Best Player: 2014
🏅2× Copa America Best Player: 2015, 2021
🏅1× U-20 World Cup Best Player: 2005
🏅1× U-20 World Cup Top Goalscorer: 2005
🏅1× Copa America Best Young Player: 2007
🏅1× Copa America Top Goalscorer: 2021
🏅1× Copa America Best Goal: 2007
🏅4× Copa America Top Assist provider: 2011, 2015, 2016, 2021
🏅1× Olympics Best Football Player (selected by FIFA official website): 2008
🔻Team honours
🏆1× U-20 World Cup: 2005
🏆1× Copa America: 2021
🥇1× Olympic Gold: 2008
🥈1× World Cup runner-up: 2014
🥈3× Copa America runner-up: 2007, 2015, 2016
🔻International records
🌟Most «goals + assists» in major intl tournaments
🌟Most assists in major intl tournaments
🌟Most intl MOTM awards
🌟Most intl individual awards
🌟Most 'Golden Ball/Best Player' awards of intl tournaments
🌟Most MOTM awards in major intl tournaments
🌟Most MOTM awards in World Cup [Shared with C. Ronaldo and A. Robben]
🌟Most successful dribbles in World Cup history
🌟Most assists in Copa America history
🌟Most Copa America 'Golden Ball/Best Player' awards
🌟Most assists in a Copa America
🌟Most MOTM awards in a Copa America
🌟Most MOTM awards in Copa America history
🌟Only player to win the 'Golden Ball/Best Player' awards of 3 different intl tournaments
🌟Only player to be the top goalscorer, top assist provider, best player and champion in an intl tournament
🌟Most assists in South America qualifiers for the World Cup
🌟Most intl goals by a South American player
🌟Most goals for Argentina National Team
🌟Most assists for Argentina National Team
🌟Most hat-tricks for Argentina National Team
🌟Only player to score in his teens, his twenties and his thirties in World Cup
🌟Most World Cup tournaments with at least one assist
🌟Most Copa America tournaments with at least one assist
🌟Most «goals + assists» in intl tournaments' knockout matches
🌟Most free-kick goals in Copa America
Messi is a system player through and through. He was unbelievable at Barcelona especially when he was playing alongside Iniesta and Xavi but he has been abysmal for PSG whereas CR7 has been great for every team he played on and he's still deciding matches despite being 37 years old. If you asked me a few years ago I would say that Messi is better than CR7 but not today.
The stats don't lie 😅
Messi coming from the midfield and scoring goal and giving assists and dribbling 4 players
Messi unlike ronaldo just don't care about goals he just wanna help his team with assists and playmaking
@@prodigygaming9721 No they don't lie. Messi's stats at PSG have exposed him.
@@jpbm1873 have exposed him? Hahahaha so where were you for last 15 years 🤦 you idiots are funny
now messi has 8 ballon dors and 3 international trophies