quality tire-liners and new tires, with a heavy tube usually works well for me; I can go years between flats; all the rest is goopy, or heavy, and not worth it.
It is much easier to load sealant into a tube before fitting in the tyre. The sealant I use is OKO - heavy duty, off-road, big bottle made for use on tractors etc. This is very economical sealant compared to expensive small cycle sealants. Sealant is a better way to go than barriers, because perhaps only 50% of punctures are caused by piercing of the tyre - the rest are caused by small failures in the tube wall, which usually become apparent as slow punctures.
@@DocScience2 I would put enough in so that it fills the bottom quadrant of the tube. The amount would depend on the width of the tyre tube. You can judge this by holding the tube in your hands. This is why I prefer to put the sealant in before fitting the tube in the tyre. The idea is that the sealant runs around the inside of the tube and will automatically be drawn into any points of air leakage.
Great video. Ive been riding on Chinese solid tyres for 8+ years, obviously never had a puncture ever as there's no tube . The ride quality is less but for commuting they're unbeatable 👍
I've used the thin flat type liner that broke down and cracked. Which destroyed the tube with multiple cuts. Like dandydon6049, use Schwalbe Marathon. I ride all year with ice & snow winters. I ride the Marathon in milder weather and Ice Spiker Pro in winter.
My tannus tires ride about the same as the gatorskin ultra hardshell tires, thorn resistant tubes and slime which still require pressure checks and carrying a pump/spare. Neither is a great ride quality, but at least I haven't had to change tires since in the dark since switching to tannus even after pulling 3 screws and 2 nails out.
Yep, the Tannus are very convenient in that way. I think as far as feel, it really depends on the type of riding you do. They really excel on hard surfaces like roads and aren't built to ride long distances due to the small efficiency loss.
I use flat out plus I got some shower pan liners from Home Depot..I line the inside of the tire like any tire liner and install the tube..never had a flat after that..
Yeah, Tannus Armor. I learned to swear on a couple of languages when finally installed them, but I think they worth it. Puncture and pinch protection at the dame time. However, it wears the tyre from the inside 😱 At least, it wears down the rubber part. Actually, I put the inner tube to the Tannus Armor, then put them into the tyre. And then I put the whole thing on the wheel. That may be easier than fight the inner tube inside the TA while they are in the tyre and on the wheel.
We are absolutely there with you as far as the difficulty of installing them. As someone who does some of our installations (I also record and edit our videos!) it took me a few months to get a hang of installing the Tannus solid tires and I still have difficulty with the Armour, but man are they worth it! The owner of our shop has both the Armours and the solid tires on various bikes of his and that is consistently the last thing he has to worry about, so they are super convenient! I would personally much rather spend an extra ~10 minutes installing something that will ensure the longevity of my tube.
I have the Tannus solid tires on my bike the best investment I ever made I go long and short distances on my bike no maintenance no flat tires I will never go back to a regular tire again and yes I actually go very long distances with my bike and I love it
Excellent video. You cover everything quickly and clearly, with excellent visuals and no verbal fumferring. I use triple protection: thorn-resistant tubes + Mr. Tuffy tire liners + high quality kevlar puncture resistant tire (Gatorskin and Schwalbe Marathon Plus are both excellent). I ride thousands of miles and years between flats. 🙂 Also, thorn-resistant tubes hold air much longer, I guess because they're so thick. Yes, any puncture-resistant product adds weight to the wheel, but I'm happy with that tradeoff. Again, excellent video. Very well done! 👍
The years I owned Bikes going all the way back to childhood is when the tires were new they weren't easily punchered but they got about a year old even if the tire still had a lot of thread they punchered a lot easier.
Great video, but how do you check tire pressure if the tube has liquid tire seal in it, won’t it clog the value and go into your pressure gauge? Thanks for sharing. 😊
Excellent question! With liquid tire seal, we have never had any issues with clogging pressure gauges when measuring tire pressure, or with skewing measurements. It's a good idea to rotate your wheel to make sure the stem is at the top when measuring pressure or inflating with the liquid seal to make sure it doesn't leak out of the valve stem. Thanks for the question!
🎉good to know about tennis tires but my rims don't have hook lip on inside. So I'm back to square one. Ever seen Styrofoam used to prevent goat heads. Thanks guys!
Tannus actually makes a tire liner as well as the solid tires, and the tire liner doesn't require the lip inside the rim. It still protects against lots of thorns and serves as a run-flat as well. Would recommend checking them out!
Just get Pirelli Cinturato Velos. Feels like a road bike tire, more protection than Continental Hardshell and any Schwalbe Touring tire. New 100% Kevlar tech has made all this old school stuff obsolete. You can ride right over nails and goatheads and nothing will happen.
LOL! That must cost a lot and add a lot of weight and rolling resistance. Now if you wouldn't mind about the resistance, as you've got assistance, it's going to cost on the range.
Tannus solid tires aren't recommended on electric bikes for several reasons, including weight and the speed you'd be traveling at. You could use a Tannus tire liner instead, which would increase the resistance of the tire to punctures.
Tannus tires are actually slightly lighter than normal tire/tube combos, and are only slightly less efficient (~3%). Really only something that becomes noticeable on longer rides.
Some major tyre company needs to make solid tires most psi in bike tires ramp up to around 100 psi making them rock hard so you'd not even notice if it was a solid tire I'd bet you could recycle old car tires into new solid tires
That's the idea with Tannus's solid foam tires! We have them here at our shop and so many of our customers are beyond thrilled to never have to replace tires again.
Generally that is something pretty easy to do - just make sure your rim, frame, and fenders (if applicable) can accommodate a tire that wide, and you may have to switch tubes as well. Sometimes if you are putting on a larger tire, it can rub against the frame or the fenders, so definitely check to make sure that doesn't happen. Great question!
Solid core tires really do seem like the better choice. Are there fat tire solid core tires? What about omnidirectional solid core tires? Give you greater flexibility in your steering, more like how a hover craft moves about, but still maintain contact with the road.
Tannus does not make any solid tires for fat tire bikes or e-bikes, for both efficiency and ease-of-installation reasons - though they do make tire liners that protect a typical pneumatic tire against most punctures. We do not know of any commercially available omnidirectional tires for bikes specifically. That is something that is so early in development and would require so much modification that it likely will not be adopted for a very long time, if at all.
How does Cycle to Go feel about Ebike tire repairs? (have you had any experience with them enough to offer suggestions like this other channel did) see: th-cam.com/video/Y9kA7ddN4zc/w-d-xo.html
We do lots of e-bike tire/tube replacements, and one thing we suggest to many e-bike owners is Tannus's Armour. It's a foam liner that goes between the tube and tire, and it prevents most pinch flats and almost all flats from sharp objects. It also serves as a run-flat. Great option for any e-bike owner, especially with fat tires!
I've heard of Tannus Amour, but when I get some time I'll try and explain later one of it's biggest negatives. It has something to do with the ongoing maintenance required for it to work properly. I think it has something to do with relieving and adjusting the tire pressure when the E-Bike is not in use, (something like that, it's stated somewhere in the instructions) I wish I had the youtube link where I heard this handy, but don't have it handy right now.
They do, and we mentioned it in this video - Tannus no-flat solid foam tires! Since they’re solid, they never go flat. They feel very similar to a normal air-filled tube and they cost about the same as a tube and tire together.
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quality tire-liners and new tires, with a heavy tube usually works well for me; I can go years between flats; all the rest is goopy, or heavy, and not worth it.
It is much easier to load sealant into a tube before fitting in the tyre. The sealant I use is OKO - heavy duty, off-road, big bottle made for use on tractors etc. This is very economical sealant compared to expensive small cycle sealants. Sealant is a better way to go than barriers, because perhaps only 50% of punctures are caused by piercing of the tyre - the rest are caused by small failures in the tube wall, which usually become apparent as slow punctures.
How much sealant in ml do you put in a bicycle tire ??
@@DocScience2 I would put enough in so that it fills the bottom quadrant of the tube. The amount would depend on the width of the tyre tube. You can judge this by holding the tube in your hands. This is why I prefer to put the sealant in before fitting the tube in the tyre. The idea is that the sealant runs around the inside of the tube and will automatically be drawn into any points of air leakage.
Great video. Ive been riding on Chinese solid tyres for 8+ years, obviously never had a puncture ever as there's no tube . The ride quality is less but for commuting they're unbeatable 👍
I've used the thin flat type liner that broke down and cracked. Which destroyed the tube with multiple cuts. Like dandydon6049, use Schwalbe Marathon. I ride all year with ice & snow winters. I ride the Marathon in milder weather and Ice Spiker Pro in winter.
My tannus tires ride about the same as the gatorskin ultra hardshell tires, thorn resistant tubes and slime which still require pressure checks and carrying a pump/spare. Neither is a great ride quality, but at least I haven't had to change tires since in the dark since switching to tannus even after pulling 3 screws and 2 nails out.
Yep, the Tannus are very convenient in that way. I think as far as feel, it really depends on the type of riding you do. They really excel on hard surfaces like roads and aren't built to ride long distances due to the small efficiency loss.
@@cycletogo = How much sealant in ml do you put in a bicycle tire ??
Bike suspensions should also prevent snake bites, as they lower maximum force on the wheels.
Cutting the previous inner tube and using it as a lining actually works but with all experiments use caution.
Keep getting a flat on my Ebike because they don't sweep the street here. Thank you I'm going to try this
I use flat out plus I got some shower pan liners from Home Depot..I line the inside of the tire like any tire liner and install the tube..never had a flat after that..
this another; am ready to change tyres, now reminded and realised not having rim liner,
@@charlesgeorge8111I also use Flat Out on my 26” x 4” Fat tires. Works great!!
I lined my tire with cut up car tire pieces. Never had a problem 🤡
Stan's works great in a tube except it can't be a patched tube or the sealant dissolves the patch adhesive and you have a future flat.
Sure you can put a schrader in a presta hole you just need to drill it out! Did this on two wheelsets on my Trek Fuel EX and had 0 issues!
Yeah, Tannus Armor. I learned to swear on a couple of languages when finally installed them, but I think they worth it. Puncture and pinch protection at the dame time. However, it wears the tyre from the inside 😱 At least, it wears down the rubber part.
Actually, I put the inner tube to the Tannus Armor, then put them into the tyre. And then I put the whole thing on the wheel. That may be easier than fight the inner tube inside the TA while they are in the tyre and on the wheel.
We are absolutely there with you as far as the difficulty of installing them. As someone who does some of our installations (I also record and edit our videos!) it took me a few months to get a hang of installing the Tannus solid tires and I still have difficulty with the Armour, but man are they worth it! The owner of our shop has both the Armours and the solid tires on various bikes of his and that is consistently the last thing he has to worry about, so they are super convenient! I would personally much rather spend an extra ~10 minutes installing something that will ensure the longevity of my tube.
I have the Tannus solid tires on my bike the best investment I ever made I go long and short distances on my bike no maintenance no flat tires I will never go back to a regular tire again and yes I actually go very long distances with my bike and I love it
Excellent video. You cover everything quickly and clearly, with excellent visuals and no verbal fumferring.
I use triple protection: thorn-resistant tubes + Mr. Tuffy tire liners + high quality kevlar puncture resistant tire (Gatorskin and Schwalbe Marathon Plus are both excellent). I ride thousands of miles and years between flats. 🙂 Also, thorn-resistant tubes hold air much longer, I guess because they're so thick. Yes, any puncture-resistant product adds weight to the wheel, but I'm happy with that tradeoff.
Again, excellent video. Very well done! 👍
Thank you!
Excellent and informative! Thank you!
The years I owned Bikes going all the way back to childhood is when the tires were new they weren't easily punchered but they got about a year old even if the tire still had a lot of thread they punchered a lot easier.
They've definitely developed a lot of technologies to help prevent punctures! Heavier tires, puncture-resistant tubes, tire liners, etc.
I run Schwalbe marathon plus. Never had a puncture in 20k miles
Same here at 75k miles 🤡
Great video thank you.
Great video, but how do you check tire pressure if the tube has liquid tire seal in it, won’t it clog the value and go into your pressure gauge? Thanks for sharing. 😊
Excellent question! With liquid tire seal, we have never had any issues with clogging pressure gauges when measuring tire pressure, or with skewing measurements. It's a good idea to rotate your wheel to make sure the stem is at the top when measuring pressure or inflating with the liquid seal to make sure it doesn't leak out of the valve stem. Thanks for the question!
🎉good to know about tennis tires but my rims don't have hook lip on inside. So I'm back to square one. Ever seen Styrofoam used to prevent goat heads. Thanks guys!
Tannus actually makes a tire liner as well as the solid tires, and the tire liner doesn't require the lip inside the rim. It still protects against lots of thorns and serves as a run-flat as well. Would recommend checking them out!
Just get Pirelli Cinturato Velos. Feels like a road bike tire, more protection than Continental Hardshell and any Schwalbe Touring tire. New 100% Kevlar tech has made all this old school stuff obsolete. You can ride right over nails and goatheads and nothing will happen.
Never heard of the Tanner foam never goes flat one.. have to investigate that further ! I have a fat tire lectric bike .. 20 - 4.0 ... hmmm...
LOL! That must cost a lot and add a lot of weight and rolling resistance. Now if you wouldn't mind about the resistance, as you've got assistance, it's going to cost on the range.
Tannus solid tires aren't recommended on electric bikes for several reasons, including weight and the speed you'd be traveling at. You could use a Tannus tire liner instead, which would increase the resistance of the tire to punctures.
Tannus tires are actually slightly lighter than normal tire/tube combos, and are only slightly less efficient (~3%). Really only something that becomes noticeable on longer rides.
Thank you for the video!
💯👍👌thanks for all that, good job very helpful thanks again enjoy life ✌️😊
Don't forget to tell them to also get the correct valve length with presta
Hands down slime is the best, saved my ass out in no where 5 min on my way.
Do you see many NIU KQI3 Max scooters with flats?
Putting the tyre sealant in to for women who ride and will be able to get and flat tyre
*ST⭕P Bike Flats!* Nice video
I'm talking about with the bike standard
Flat out works great in a tube.
Do tannis tires come in 20x4?
The Tannus solid tires don't come in a 20x4" size, but they do make an Armour (tire liner) in that size. Thanks for the question!
Very informative presentation.
How much sealant in ml do you put in a bicycle tire ??
The sealant we use recommends you use a whole small bottle, or 60ml. Thanks for the question!
Will it work in a tube too,Slime does not work.
well done
great Video
Thanks
Some major tyre company needs to make solid tires most psi in bike tires ramp up to around 100 psi making them rock hard so you'd not even notice if it was a solid tire I'd bet you could recycle old car tires into new solid tires
That's the idea with Tannus's solid foam tires! We have them here at our shop and so many of our customers are beyond thrilled to never have to replace tires again.
Can I upgrade from. 26 x 1.7 to a 26 x 2.1 Tire?
Generally that is something pretty easy to do - just make sure your rim, frame, and fenders (if applicable) can accommodate a tire that wide, and you may have to switch tubes as well. Sometimes if you are putting on a larger tire, it can rub against the frame or the fenders, so definitely check to make sure that doesn't happen. Great question!
Excellent as usual
Solid core tires really do seem like the better choice. Are there fat tire solid core tires? What about omnidirectional solid core tires? Give you greater flexibility in your steering, more like how a hover craft moves about, but still maintain contact with the road.
Tannus does not make any solid tires for fat tire bikes or e-bikes, for both efficiency and ease-of-installation reasons - though they do make tire liners that protect a typical pneumatic tire against most punctures. We do not know of any commercially available omnidirectional tires for bikes specifically. That is something that is so early in development and would require so much modification that it likely will not be adopted for a very long time, if at all.
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I am convinced tubes are being made Whittier and shitier!
How does Cycle to Go feel about Ebike tire repairs? (have you had any experience with them enough to offer suggestions like this other channel did) see:
th-cam.com/video/Y9kA7ddN4zc/w-d-xo.html
We do lots of e-bike tire/tube replacements, and one thing we suggest to many e-bike owners is Tannus's Armour. It's a foam liner that goes between the tube and tire, and it prevents most pinch flats and almost all flats from sharp objects. It also serves as a run-flat. Great option for any e-bike owner, especially with fat tires!
I've heard of Tannus Amour, but when I get some time I'll try and explain later one of it's biggest negatives. It has something to do with the ongoing maintenance required for it to work properly. I think it has something to do with relieving and adjusting the tire pressure when the E-Bike is not in use, (something like that, it's stated somewhere in the instructions) I wish I had the youtube link where I heard this handy, but don't have it handy right now.
A person shouldn't have to do anything preventative why can't they make a decent tire that doesn't go flat unless something major happens
They do, and we mentioned it in this video - Tannus no-flat solid foam tires! Since they’re solid, they never go flat. They feel very similar to a normal air-filled tube and they cost about the same as a tube and tire together.
@@cycletogo but they don't this isn't commonplace said they make crap
You forget to mention the clowns who let the push Bike tyres down for fun
I just double . 👍
I tube hate messy sealant. 🥴🥴🥴