Rolex vs Tudor Submariner Watch & Behind The Scenes 2021 War Room Tour
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2024
- Today I share a behind-the-scenes tour of my latest War Room upgrades, a new Tudor for my collection, and thoughts on my favourite Rolex and Tudor Submariner watches.
We'll take a look at some collectable diecast airplanes, Lego sets, movies, antiques, must-have man cave accessories and tech. And we'll talk about the advantages and disadvantages of Rolex vs Tudor vintage Submariners like my current 79190. I also discuss my latest watch crush on the Rolex Submariner 16613 in blue, my watch collection goals, and the reason for my obsession with two-tone watches like the Datejust 16233 and Day-Date complications-like my Rolex "President" 18238 and Tudor Prince Date-Day 76213.
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Hmmmm, I think a blue Submariner would be a temporary infatuation, scratch that itch if you absolutely have to but DON’T SELL YOUR TUDOR SUB!!
VERY good point. As such a value Gentry member and commentator, I will take your words with the upmost importance. Thank you Peter.
Best regards,
TGV
Given your infatuation with the military history and connections of your watches - selling your Tudor sub for the anti-tool-watch tool watch would be a mistake.
I think you will regret selling the Tudor Sub. You clearly love the brand, have a connection with the watch, and you acknowledge that it will be hard to replace it. Worse if you do sell it, face regret and replace it….. it won’t be THE watch you have used in so many videos. I think that will deepen the regret. If you want to pair down the collection there are probably a handful you could cut then use the cash for the two tone Rolex. That might be a better exercise. And if the two tone was a flight of fancy, you could sell it and apply the proceeds to other projects. You will still have achieved the culling exercise.
@@christianhudson9623 damn right
@@christopherprevost763 Couldn't agree more. Its a tool watch at it's beating heart and I'd always buy it in its rawest form.
TGV : “you don’t need another watch. Stop thinking about watches”
Also TGV: Has the biggest and most well known watch channel on TH-cam
"Stop looking at watches and get back to work"
Looks at watch
Normally when I'm thinking like this going through Amazon the girl friend asks what I'm doing. To which i almost always say just looking at stuff. And then add watch to my wish list.
The introduction of the introduction is quite relatable
Agreed 😂
100% 😅
'Relatable' 😂
Keep the TUDOR sub! That's the sub to have.
Unlike the Rolex it is not pretentious and Tudor was the true Frogman watch out of the two of them
I wouldn’t sell the Tudor sub. The two tone sub is a great watch but lacks the versatility of a black submariner. I’d sell the day date and the datejust and try to make up the rest! I had your problem before tgv. I bought a watch box with 20 compartments and told my self that’s the limit. Still going strong although watching this channel makes it difficult 🤣
Haha, thank you Luke, I really appreciate that.
Sorry for the temptations, if it males you feel any better, I have the same effect on myself! 😂😂😂
Anyways, enjoy it.
Best regards,
TGV
I can’t help but recall how many times you’ve worn your Tudor Sub in your previous videos and talking about how perfect it is.
Shamefully very true. I can't deny!!!!
You are so right, it is perfect.
Thank you for reminding me, I needed that.
Best regards,
TGV
DONT SELL IT!!!
DONT BE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!!!
@@theurbangentry keep the Tudor, don't waste money on a Rolex.
Me on Twitter: "I cleaned up my study."
Guy on Twitter: "What´s a study?"
Me: "Well besides desk, computer and piano there is mostly car and plane models and LEGOs in there..."
Guy: "Now we are talking."
;-)
That intro 😂 The struggle is real
The Catalina is an awesome plane! I got the chance to fly in one, before it was sadly sold to another country. Skimming the water at over 100 k/h almost felt like a rollercoaster ride.
I think I have the perfect 3 watch collection: Watch 1 - Apple Watch, being a dyslexic school teacher, I couldn’t do my job without this watch, been using it for about 4 years, I can deal with emails set reminders and have reminders pop up through lessons to keep me right without using my phone. Also used as a beater watch when working out or in water. Watch 2 - Rolex Sub for all my out of school hours, saved for years to buy this for myself for my 30th, reminds me of the value of hard work and perseverance. My favourite and final watch is a Seiko 5 my wife gave me on our wedding day, I only wear this when we go out together.
Anyone think this collection is missing anything? I can’t think of anything else I need that another watch could give me.
Love and peace guys!
The introduction is basically my daily conversation with myself
I went and watched The American after your last video and now need to watch The Killer. Maybe you can do more movie recommendations along the way? I always enjoy visiting with you.
Lol I did the same and it was a great movie.. I agree, he needs to do more movie suggestions
The War Room seems curiously bereft of weapons. I take it there's an armoury somewhere else 😄
Well I love seeing the war room! Especially how I remember previous bits and bobs from years gone by!
1stly;) the Seiko clock is saying 3:55am!!!! Poor wife needs the sleep surely!!!;)
2nd I thought I was the only one with a Garth Merenghi’s Darkplace DVD!!
Great show!
All I can say is, I have owned a blue Rolex sub 16613 since new in 1997. After all these years, I have never tired of it. It’s the perfect mix of dressy and sporty. I’ve worn it in the ocean and I’ve worn it to weddings with a suit. I have over 50 watches in my collection, but that is one I’ve never, ever considered parting with.
TGV, your intro is the best on youtube hands down. I really enjoyed the war room walk around.
Keep the Tudor Sub. I have the 114060 and 116613LB. It's a killer 2 piece meal deal hunger buster combo. Day/Night. Summer Spring/Fall Winter. A bit of flash/Stealth. A SS black sub and bluesy compliment each other. I have always worn a gold chain since early teens. I now wear my Dad's 14K Crucifix with my Grandma's wedding ring diamond mounted on it. My watch collection is TT heavy because of this, 5 of 9 are TT. If you wear gold, TT just makes sense.
Like you, I was mesmeized by the bluesy thumbing through NG mags in school and at my dentist's office. Was also mesmerized by King Tut's death mask. This color combo is striking. I bought a nice lapis lazuli bracelet to wear on the other arm with it. The bluesy is a perfect Summer watch. It sings in the sun. Some of those purple dial 5 digits are awesome. The added weight of the gold does make the Sub feel better. And to be honest, I prefer it, over the SS Sub. I still catch myself looking at it like I did when I first got it. It is the only watch in my collection that has gotten compliments.
Doesn’t he say every 3 months that he’s consolidating and then pretends to have convinced himself it’s ok not to?
Don’t we all?
@@chasp_0784 lol no. I try to convince myself I don’t have enough
@@golfalpha284 I’ve heard that the correct amount of watches is N+1, N being the current amount of watches you have.
@@chasp_0784 😂
My collection is made up entirely of sub $200 Seikos, Citizens, Invictas, Casios and Vostoks. Each has a distinctive look, as I've tried hard to not have watches that all look the same. Enjoy your new watch TGV! Cheers my friend.
I have been trying to "consolidate" my watch collection for the past 30 years. You are chasing unicorns TGV !
Don't sell it because you will regret it! YOU KNOW YOU WILL!!
Great to see another war room tour TGV! As for the watch dilemma, I would sit with it for a while and see if your desire for the two-tone is still there after a few weeks. It takes a lot of restraint but I sometimes do that to gauge whether I'm just lusting after a watch versus actually desiring it. I've noticed I hold onto the ones I've determined I truly desire, while the ones I've bought due to lust have been sold.
Excellent point, I will certainly take your wise advice,
Thank you my friend, I would expect nothing less from you.
Best regards,
TGV
Wow! Great Job!! Your videos are always so interesting! The intros with all these images related to past and present days, art and mechanics, fading one into the other, and the music, reminds me of The opening credits of TV Series "The Persuaders"! I really hope you've seen it once in your life! Roger Moore and Tony Curtis... I love LEGO, since I was a kid, at that time there were only red and white bricks (green for the roof of the house), but there were TENTE bricks to build ships and sci-fi machines with round bricks! I think many of us bought the "new" LEGO for their kids, to play with them. I really love SCI-Fi Movies, from "the day the earth stood still" 1951 until Star Trek Picard, passing through Dune, Stingray and The Clockwork Orange! If you love knives too, you should consider a "vernantin" Italian hand made knife from Vernante, in Piedmont, or a "Pattada" from Sardegna. ;-)
I have a 1989 duo-tone Chronomat. I bought it with a stainless steel case, black dial with gold subdials, gold crown, gold pushers, gold rider tabs, and gold screws on the bezel. As part of an overhaul 10 years ago, I had the dial replaced with a black one with white subdials, had all the gold components replaced with stainless steel, and had a new orange second hand installed. When I originally bought the watch I loved the duo-tone. I still think it looked very good then but now I prefer the all-steel version with its more sincere tool watch feel. As for more dressy watches, duo-tone can look great and a bit more subdued than all-gold.
My old boss had a two-tone submariner. I always thought i wouldnt like the looks of the two-tone, but that watch never looked out of place. On the wrist i have to say its a fantastic choice
Another “Certified Pure Class” vid. TGVs on top because he Does His own thing.
I was browsing in an antique store and bought a Bulova desk clock that was made in West Germany. I had no idea Bulova made clocks in Germany.
The production quality of these videos is amazing, always a blast to watch
I’m so envious of your war room TGV!
FYI recently acquired a 2021 Explorer, my favorite watch by far. Purchase inspired by your videos;)
Definitely turning my study into a war room these summer holidays! I’d like some lovely watches to go in it too.......
Yesssss 😎🥂
Please let me know how it goes.
Best regards,
TGV
I actually have that same seiko world clock. Never seen anyone else have it until I stared watching/following your channel.
That Intro😭🤣it s 100% my problem too🤣
Another great video, TGV, and the intro was very relatable! I’m actually saving for the Tudor BB58 blue for my high school graduation next year. Have been saving for a year and my local AD has it, so I’ll be very excited to add that to my collection which consists of a Seiko Skx007j and a Marathon TSAR from my father. Hopefully I can email you some pictures of it when I get it! Have a good one. (Also I hope Yema sends you one of their MN watches to review!!) 😀👍
Love the intro of course! Love the tour too. My gut feel is, you’ll miss the black Tudor Sub and it’s versatility however, you certainly won’t lose money on the LB so, if you get bored of it, you can move it on and purchase the Tudor back and/or a Rolex Sub! You only live once! Enjoy it! Having said that, as Nancy Sinatra once sang…..”Live one life for yourself and one for your dreams!” So technically You Only Live Twice!
Scary how much TGV and I like the same things: Lego, watches (most of which I can't afford), EDC foldable knives, etc, etc. There has to be some sort of personality profile that describes us.
Great video TGV! Thanks for the war room tour! Working from home for a year I’ve made a few changes to my home office/war room as well. My job has nothing to do with watches, but i have 5 to 6 watches, a few straps, and a winder on my standing desk. For a clock I use a wind-up Russian submarine clock that keeps amazing time! I’m also a bit of a pocket knife collector so i keep many of those on a shelf nearby as well. Keep up the great work Sir!
I'd love a Lego video! I got the Saturn V to accompany my Moonwatch :D
I’m wearing my Rolex 166133 Two Tone Submariner which I bought brand new in July of 2002...I will never let this one go!
Best intro ever? Man! The quality on this one was next level!
There even is a small red Seiko x Supreme version of your yellow desk clock :) funny, unexpected collab - so I got one
War room looks great T! I’ve always loved the 18K/Steel Blue Sub. I had the black one for many years, my only issue was that the gold takes up a large part of the link and tends to scuff and scratch so easily. Although selling the Tudor Sub might be a hard decision to make, it is a step up with the Rolex, and will match your Gold jewelry better. Variety is the spice of life 😎
Best Regards
Stuart
Good evening TGV! The Tudor Submariner and the DayDate is a great Duo! I love the TwoTone-look of the DayDate, and the TwoTone Sub is a classy piece. Have a great evening!
23:56 I had the same thought when I bought my Invicta Pro Diver 8928 LOL🤣🤣. Great video and I hope you make the right decision for you!
Great 76213, tgv. I remember in one of your older videos you said those had been discontinued 😉
Omg that intro and music absolutely class.! The kippers knickers 🐟🩲
Thank you my friend, it took weeks to find the right score for the new 2021 channel intro, I am so glad you enjoy it too.
Best regards,
TGV
@@theurbangentry You absolutely nailed it (to be fair, the music you choose for your watch reviews is always on point). Very few people match music to content and you’re a master. Thanks for the content.
No words, just thank you 🙏 😊 I am deeply honored.
Amazing introduction!
Congratulations TGV!
All the best!
I think a thorough tour of your film collection would be interesting and strike up a lot of conversation on the channel. It's another topic that contains a lot of depth!
A friend of mine has a Sub 2 tones, blue dial (I think it was a 16613P). It's a great piece, and he wore it in special occasions only, while the black Submariner date 16610 was his "everyday" watch. I think I will wear gold but actually my only gold watch is a vintage Wittnauer, too small for my wrist :-). I think you should do all that makes you happy! The recent pandemic teaches me that it is not always possible to live the life of your dreams, so, if in your heart you've already made the decision, you just need to materialize it. I know you won't be disappointed. Anyway, the Oyster Date, is a magnificent timepiece, and talking about your specific "happy problem", Tudor and Rolex are very close in terms of quality and prestige, especially the models in your hands, and to me, the possibility to "wear them when you like" is more a bonus, that I think with your new Sub 2 tones, maybe you will not get. Cheers from Italy! Ciao!
Omg, TGV! This was the best intro by far, imo.
The same scenario goes through my mind so often 🤣
TGV your intros are just top notch quality and so entertaining!!! NOOOO you must keep the Tudor. I personally wanted a 70’s sub with more a vintage look, however that was out of my budget so with the help of another enthusiast i managed to get a strap made from a genuine WW2 Swiss army pistol carrier for my blue Pelagos. Scratched that itch perfectly and now has a great story to which will live on through my family in years to come!.
I use to love going to the movie or music store and looking at all the cover art.
New Video!! clicked as fast as possible. The war room is what I aspire to have once I'm older. I feel like it's just a whole time machine. It transports you to so many decades through the books, posters, artwork, watches, etc... truly amazing TGV looks awesome once again! - Guillermo
I will give you credit on the fact that you really are ahead of the trends or going in your own direction watch collecting wise ….and that is pretty cool …watches id normally not look twice at,have all the sudden sparked an interest wether through the in depth description or beautiful videography and editing work ….whatever the case …you have opened up segments that I’d previously turned a blind eye to,,,so for that ….cheers
Top video. Great to hear the 2yr review on the TDR Sub and in such a nice studio!!
omg this intro was the most reeeelatable thing bahahha!
Spotted Lady Snowblood. Maiko Kaji's music is amazing
I find it hard to add watches to my collection - especially in the era of the apple watch. I only opt for things that are iconic, hold their value, and have lasting beauty.
great vid. my war room is perpetually under construction. if you want to use watches as they were intended, and not just keep them in a box i think 12 is a good size for a collection for the average person. it allows for plenty of variety or a focused theme, and youd be wearing each of your watches around 3 days a month. not counting special occasions, or wearing a beater on the weekends. as they say, g-shocks dont count....
My cousin had the two tone Sub, it screamed Del Boy!!!!
Keep the Tudor sub, too cool for school.
Also that day date rocks.
Love the episode, cheers T G V. 👍🏴
Cool vid, thanks as always TGV. At 8:44, is that, could it be, the iconic Vince Guaraldi Trio of A Charlie Brown Christmas fame?? Lovely music that sounds just like it.
And here I was thinking I had lots of stuff lying around the place. I don't feel so bad now! 😆😆😆
Yes yes yes TGV Go for the 16613 Blue, I own it, as a wedding present, this blue tone is so unique, you will never see anything like it even on a Rolex watch ...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 ❤️ your channel...
Ulises ( Spanish & Mexican ) London resident friend.
I adore the new cyberpunk-esque intro theme! It reminds me of Perturbator, a great artist from France.
TGV you are my hero, I feel very identified with your videos, I really like when you talk about the war room and show a little bit of your life style, thanks! 👌🏽
Good video - but God no, don't make that trade, that Tudor and Rolex you have are so much classier. The new two-tone sub is brasher and too shouty..... you said you gravitate towards vintage... you've answered your own question
Another great video, I love that intro! I really do like that Tudor sub. I personally would not sell it. Best of luck to you my friend.
Miguel
What a classy show!! Excellent Video, Without a doubt the most Classy grounded and true horologist !! Love all the history reference and the presentations!
Im new to the hobby and one of the major reasons for subscribing to your channel is how you educate on the history of the watches. Can you please do a video of must read watch history books for people getting into the hobby. Just love learning about it and would like to have a book collection as part of the hobby as well. Great video again. Keep em coming.
I would never get rid of the Tudor, i would sell others to get the Rolex
Hey TGV! Love the channel, keep up the amazing work.... don’t you dare sell the Tudor!! Sell something else if the bi-colour itch must be scratched - it’s such a credible piece, and I feel it defines your output for me.. There’s so many Rolex submariners out there.. The Tudor tips it’s hat but without “that” excess connotation. My favourite watch in your collect by a country mile....
Yes do it. The swag on the 16613 is just undeniable. That blue dial is stunning . Definitely greater than the sum of it parts (2 tone Datejust and steel sub)
Thank you KLC ;-)
Best regards,
TGV
Excellent video, TGV. Love the war room tour ....great to see some of the old favorites and the new pieces you have added. The new Sega, matching Swatch, and layout all look to be fantastic modifications. As for the selling of the Tudor to fund a two tone Rolex Sub......I would wait and make sure that is really what you want.....the two tone you mention is a incredibly awesome piece, probably the only two tone sub I’d ever consider. BUT.... the Tudor sub you have is much more iconic, has much more personal importance with the rose, military importance, serviceability, you listed all the reasons. If you sell to fund a Rolex you will be losing one piece that is neither here or there PLUS one that has MASSIVE importance to you and would be damn near impossible to replace.....all to fund a purchase of a Rolex Submariner.....granted your MAY not lose much money if any on the Sub, but the piece won’t have anywhere near the significance that your Tudor does. My two cents. I’d consider selling the other one sure, and maybe saving the rest of the cash for the two tone ....then after you have had the two tone a bit make the decision which Sub to get rid of then.....I’d bet the Rolex would find the door before the vintage Tudor did...anyway. Best of luck with the decision. Onward and upward!
I just bought the new 126613LB and it is blinding! I'll try get a review video up soon. Good luck with the pre-ceramic 👍🏻
So much fun, cool stuff! You've got to go to Auburn, Indiana to visit the Auburn, Cord, Duesenberg Museum! The building is an original art deco factory and showroom and the collection is over 200 art deco masterpiece cars from the 1920s-1930s! You'd love it!
I only have one sub, but could honestly say I would be able to enjoy any variation. The two tone with the blue dial is versatile and sporty.
Wait till you only own the nine. I've been trying to cut it to seven for a couple of years now but have grown so attached i can't seem to let them go.
Great Video TGV, can’t beat a tour of the war room!! Good luck with the consolidations!! Always exciting to be watch shopping!!! All the best.. BMJ ENGLAND 🏴
Bro. Never stop doing Hugo Mountbatten 😂😂😂
Love seeing that Resolute X-1 around 5:40! It has replaced my collection of Benchmade, Kershaw, and Gerber for my EDC use... 99% of the time it's the right tool for the job. A year ago I'd have laughed if you told me I'd trade my Benchmade for a Boxcutter...
Your DVD/Blue ray collection is as diverse as mine, I've got about 1000 movies, tv series, and documentaries.
"Knife in the water" Absolute classic! Best regards TGV :-)
Just started this video. I bought a blue two tone in 2017, with a little discount from WoS for £9600. Loved it, such a great looking piece, but part exchanged it a year ago at another AD, for £8100, against a different watch. Lost £1500 in 3 years, but it did have a little damage, and I did use an AD rather than sell privately.
As much as I loved it, I'm happy with my cheaper replacement watch, Air King, plus the £3k back.
More visuals on the 76213! Love the Tudor Prince Date + Day. Two tone has come back around. It’s here to stay.
If could decorate my room as you did… my cat will not allow me to do so…
Yes, The screenshot looks like It shows the inside of the Walhalla memorial along the Danube a bit east of Regensburg. I used to run the big steps outside up and down when I was living in the area.
YESSSSS!!! I dream of going, you lucky thing.
Thank you my friend, I am so envious you got to live in that area, naturally, I'm happy to have you in the Gentry!
Best regards,
TGV
The new intro at 2.28 is 🔥💥❤️🔥
I bought the Carl Friedrik wallet a few years ago when it was featured on UG......great wallet! Has held up very well.
I’ve always lusted after the “LB”. It’s absolutely on my list. Just do it.
Hugo knows best. He's given me peer pressu- I mean peer advice on my collection also....
The ideal collection size is 'just one more'.
I just hovered around this video and i had no need to watch it all i already know i going to like it. You should do more videos like these whenever you feel like it, Cheers
The bluesy with the aluminum bezel is my favorite watch but I’ll be putting it on a rubber strap for the summer.
Really enjoy your channel, your positivity is infectious. Even when you don’t care for something you still have many good things to say about the subject, that’s a rare quality for a TH-cam channel… keep the Tudor Sub, I can promise that you will kick yourself for letting it go.
Funny, I recently noticed my dentist has that same two-tone blue Sub you showed. This is not a comment on it, just a funny coincidence. I'm not really a two town person. Something like the BB58 is about as two tone as I personally would go, with the bit of gilt. I am sure whatever you sell will be hard to part with, but hopefully you're at least happy with the replacement for a while.
I think the two tone sub lends itself well to your philosophy of fun watches. I don't know enough about watches to say whether or not that justifies selling the Tudor but the two tone is definitely 100X more fun than dear old subby.
Keep the Tudoe Sub! TGV, I know there is strange logic that surrounds this watch hobby and I'm probably one of the last people to give advice however I have a suggestion.
Take the Tudor Sub off and put it in a closed box in the safe for say three to six months as a target. Do not look at it, handle it or even wind it. Don't worry the Rolex market will remain just as it is for now. Sell some of the rest of the collection by all means. If during the 3 to 6 month period you find the need open the safe and open the box at take a look at the Tudor it will feel like seeing that old friend again who you didn't realise you would miss so much. That would confirm that you should keep it. If however there is no emotion when you see the watch again then clearly it is time to sell. You have 2 years history with the Tudor and know it, to try and get another that you know so well in a good condition will be harder and given the rising prices on the used market it would cost you more as well. Rolex Subs on the other hand are still pretty plentiful if expensive on the used market with more and more landing all the time.Yes the Rolex Sub will be expensive but as you sold an old modern one as there was little connection the same could so easily happen again only this time your old friend had gone for ever. OK the Rolex Sub has evolved over time gaining flab and ceramic and recently the re-profile is harking back a little towards those classic days it still is obviously a Sub. If I was in your shoes I'd keep your good friend the Tudor Sub. That is all. Apologies for the long comment.
Honestly, I could watch a sitcom about devil Hugo and angel TGV
I opt for a 3-5 watch collection. It allows me to wear, connect with, and appreciate each watch. Also - if you’re not wearing your Tudor Sub much, or your gold Day-Date, I doubt you’ll wear the 16613 much. May just want to offload.
Very good food for thought,
Thank you, I will certainly take that into consideration/
Best regards,
TGV
Thanx for the tour TGV... As you always say.... Buy what you love... Good luck on the hunt... Happy Memorial Day. 🥃🍷🥃
Ideal size collection? It's when you own them all!
My two-tone Cartier Tank Francaise is my favorite watch. It was a 10 year wedding anniversary gift from my wife and it matches my two-tone wedding band. I'm also an 80's baby, so maybe that explains it!
Absolute pure class watch, I love it. Thank you BJL, enjoy it!
Best regards,
TGV