Black Sonata - Solo Playthrough & Review

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    This is "Black Sonata," a board game designed by John Kean & published by Side Room Games in 2017. This video includes a rules overview.
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  • @pokertroll320
    @pokertroll320 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    At 34:30 or so, she could have gotten to southwark by moving to bishop’s gate first. That would have led to two possible locations when she had the coin and two possible locations for the cup. So you got lucky in the 50/50 at the end.

    • @Ogrecrusher
      @Ogrecrusher หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Or via Blackfriars. Funny how that one jumped out to me but not the Bishopsgate route.

  • @swise63
    @swise63 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Yes! Would love to see more solo game reviews!

  • @lightningmonkey706
    @lightningmonkey706 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This was fun - thanks for another great solo playthrough Monique!

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @slimyweasel
    @slimyweasel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I fucking love Black Sonata.

  • @ForChitsGiggles
    @ForChitsGiggles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! You managed to get a lot of info out of the clue cards, more than I thought you could :D As others pointed out you got lucky in the last search because she could have made it to Southwark but I think you deserved the win, and this looks like a clever game. Thanks for making these videos!

  • @dannyverbraeken3829
    @dannyverbraeken3829 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the playthrough Monique ! Backed the game now, looks a lot of fun to play !

  • @patricksteele
    @patricksteele 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic playthrough Monique! I'm going to buy it, thanks!

  • @Crimsonboardgames
    @Crimsonboardgames 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This looks very fun! I always love a great new solo game!

  • @mini.moments.canada
    @mini.moments.canada หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun, thanks for sharing!

  • @hanslamal5632
    @hanslamal5632 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the most unique games in the world period! I backed from the first second... Wonderful they have so much new ways to play it with the second expansion 🙏

  • @martonferenci
    @martonferenci หลายเดือนก่อน

    Coincidentally I have just borrowed this from a friend - thanks for the enticing playthrough, I'll get into investigating right now! One day, you will need to try Mr. President with Naveen :)

  • @bookaddict777
    @bookaddict777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This looks like a great solo game. Thanks for the play through, Monique!

  • @Kumagoro42
    @Kumagoro42 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another one of the all-time greatest solo-only games under your belt! Playing solo-only designs is really another beast entirely than playing solo modes of multiplayer games, where the solo mode is almost always a compromise. If a game is designed to play solo only, you can be 100% certain it'll play at its best, because it can't play at any other count. :)
    My favorite solo-only that I really wish to see you play is Final Girl, which happens to be what single-handedly brought about the current surge of solo-only games (I mean, it's close to be in the top 100 overall of BGG, which is incredible for a solo game). I so hope you'll make a playthrough happen with Van Ryder Games!
    You already played another favorite, Warp's Edge, and talked about Maquis and Friday. Next in line should definitely be Legacy of Yu. It's a Shem Phillips game, and I know you're already pretty fond of his games. Legacy of Yu might even be his masterpiece as far as I'm concerned.
    Last but not least, Under Falling Skies is another solo gem, basically worker placement Space Invaders. :)

  • @tomwchick1
    @tomwchick1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    13:52 "Coffee cup"? : )

    • @birchlover3377
      @birchlover3377 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A pint of ale, methinks.

    • @DevilboyScooby
      @DevilboyScooby 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ye Olde Starbucks

  • @j0ana1978
    @j0ana1978 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just backed the kickstarter. Thank you!

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed the video! ☺️

  • @Watdee
    @Watdee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't normally go for solo games, but I know I could get into this one for the deduction and ingenious way they configure the stealth deck. Thank you so much for sharing! I hope I can find a copy ...

  • @joelsummerell1012
    @joelsummerell1012 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very much enjoyed this Playthrough. Thanks. My deductive skills are poor at best. I went in the complete opposite direction. Looks like a great game.

  • @lizcohn7622
    @lizcohn7622 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoy this game. When I first heard about it a few years ago I watched several play throughs to see if I would like it. Yours is by far one of the most enjoyable and thorough plays. Each time you said “ha ha!” I laughed. I’m still wondering if it’s worth it to back the kickstarter to get the expansions but it has certainly rekindled my interest in pulling it out and playing it again. Thanks!

  • @condar15
    @condar15 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been looking to get this at some point, and was really glad to see it getting a crowd funding reprint so backed immediately. Thank you for the playthrough, it gives a great demo of how it plays, and I now look even more forward to getting mine once it fulfills.
    My only concern is that I worry with enough plays I'd maybe unintentionally memorize some of the suit + trait combinations. For example I might memorize that one of the rose cards has heart, band, crown at which point if I reveal the other I now know the dark ladies traits via external means. I don't imagine it to be a big issue, and I imagine the expansions will help if ot does become an issue.

  • @shinjial
    @shinjial 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Eeeey! Congrats!
    I really want this game! I hope they ship where I live.

  • @stevenamamoto585
    @stevenamamoto585 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of my favorite solo and travel games. There is currently (today is 5/6/24) a Kickstarter campaign where the original game and 2 expansions are available to pledge.

  • @ShuffleUpandDeal32
    @ShuffleUpandDeal32 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking forward to getting this one and the expansions but who knows when.

  • @darbyl3872
    @darbyl3872 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THANKS! You hit on a flaw in my own prototype, hidden movement game. At 2 players, one player can hide by going to the other player's last location. (Players cannot move 0 spaces. Maybe they should.)

  • @VinegarAndSaltedFries
    @VinegarAndSaltedFries 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hope you are enjoying your trip. Appreciate the continued content.

  • @SpartacusSpielt
    @SpartacusSpielt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice playthrough, thanks for it. I've already backed the new expansion and I'm looking forward to playing it.
    By the way: It's not a coffee mug, but a beer mug (symboling a tavern); and it's not a "band", but a wedding ring (symboling being married). :)

    • @Kumagoro42
      @Kumagoro42 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, a wedding ring is also called wedding band.

    • @SpartacusSpielt
      @SpartacusSpielt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Kumagoro42, ah, didn't know that. I'm not a native speaker. Thanks.

    • @Kumagoro42
      @Kumagoro42 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SpartacusSpielt Neither am I, but I watch a lot of American rom-coms. :)

  • @chakra2938
    @chakra2938 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really cool game

  • @Sangha119
    @Sangha119 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    At @34:44 she could have escaped to Southwark by moving ccw through Black friar from Cornhill in 4 moves.

  • @mrsamtheman80
    @mrsamtheman80 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mister X is the new version of Scotland Yard that improves it in pretty much every way. Black Sonata is the best one though!

  • @tracyyann.
    @tracyyann. 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would recommend Final Girl as an awesome solo game!

  • @shinjial
    @shinjial 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll come back to watch the playthough in a few, but I just wanted to comment on the Naveen shaped vacant space in the thumbnail that makes Monique look soooo alone hahaha

  • @EmmaNovaheim
    @EmmaNovaheim 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm from England, so this theme is really interesting 😁
    FYI Southwark is pronounced SUTH-IRK where the first part rhymes with the beginning of "MOTHer"

  • @Theplaysthet
    @Theplaysthet 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Monique! What’s the best expansion everyone? I just backed the base game on Kickstarter but def want an expansion add on! Def will play this on my channel when it arrives hopefullly at Xmas!

  • @martindahl4241
    @martindahl4241 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think you have to make a field study to an Inn and watch the "coffee cups" closely.. ;) Thanks for the play. I wonder if you skip two or zero cards when you get the "0/2" clue option? If you skip zero you have the fog card still at the top, does it means she stay put instead of flees? Not clear...?

  • @TheMperor5
    @TheMperor5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you supposed to memorize the movements after going through the deck once? So you can easily predict where she will go in the next cycle?
    Or does the reset after a successful search prohibit that?

  • @Brend0ver
    @Brend0ver 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was one of the people that recommended this game. I really like the more difficult deduction ladies in the expansion. Easy to include and ups the deduction which is a great part. The rulebook also has a ton of other configurations for setting up the movement deck.

  • @kosterix123
    @kosterix123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    are the cards linen finish?

  • @jamesmorgan1967
    @jamesmorgan1967 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What do all the location symbols on the board stand for? The comedy/tragedy masks are clearly the playhouse, but is the "coffee cup" really a beer stein and thus the pub? (Thinking thematically here.) Will you be backing the Strange Shadows expansion on KS? It looks like it adds a lot to the base game. Hope you're enjoying your time off!

    • @Yxvandoolu
      @Yxvandoolu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, and the canoe is the rowing boat that the ferrymen would use to transport people across the Thames as there weren’t that many bridges. All symbols are from the time of Shakespeare.

    • @jamesmorgan1967
      @jamesmorgan1967 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Yxvandoolu Oh, that's interesting! I'm guessing the others are tree (forest/garden), money (market?), cross (cemetery)... Do you have any thoughts on what the "house" symbol refers to?

    • @Keldroc
      @Keldroc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely the pub. Coffee shops didn't exist in England until several decades after Shakespeare's death.

    • @six12
      @six12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Their meanings are written on the board

    • @jamesmorgan1967
      @jamesmorgan1967 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@six12 Ah, thanks! Didn't know that.

  • @jchangaus
    @jchangaus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At 32:43, I don't think she was supposed to be at London Bridge as Eastcheap is between them?

    • @Sangha119
      @Sangha119 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      she had 2 movements that round, moving from Bishopsgate through Eastcheap to London Bridge

  • @corynardin
    @corynardin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is also available as a free print and play game.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great to hear that!

  • @DukeusMostchillius
    @DukeusMostchillius 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hey guys.. a couple years ago you guys did a showcase on games you saw at a convention or some such and there was one in particular that im trying to put a name to. Its was a very black and bleak game. I think a sort of prison escape random dungeon crawler kind of game. I dont remember a ton of details just that it wasnt released yet and it was very very black. hope these clues jog your memory because id love to find it without deep diving every Vlog you guys have ever produced.

    • @ForChitsGiggles
      @ForChitsGiggles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is it Escape The Dark Castle? That sounds like it, plus it was originally out around that sort of time, hope that's it!

    • @DukeusMostchillius
      @DukeusMostchillius 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ForChitsGiggles It isnt.. thanks for the reply. I did the deep dive and found that it was "The Night Cage"

  • @monkeyunit4533
    @monkeyunit4533 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So if the clue on Jane Davenant says she shares 0/2 clues with the Red Rose ladies, does that mean the shares 0 with one of them and 2 with the other?
    Or could she share 0 or 2 with both?
    Because if the first is the case, revealing the other red rose character gives a lot more information.

  • @pokertroll320
    @pokertroll320 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you cause her to flee through the countdown card, does that mean you don’t change the counter? If so, that seems like a bad mechanism. You can just map out her entire route, try to meet her on the second pass in locations you are sure about, and also make sure you’ll land at one of the ones at/near the end of her route so that you bypass the counter.

    • @dettonator11
      @dettonator11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No, you do change the counter even if she flees through the card. You can make a very slight fan as you count off cards from the top, so you can see if you’ve hit the countdown card without seeing the other locations. It sounds difficult, but it’s actually pretty easy to do.

  • @dannyverbraeken3829
    @dannyverbraeken3829 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you know Scotland Yard ? You play it with 3-6 players, but there's an app available for playing solo.