I’m new to the Shiro’s purchased my first one. This one recently with micarda inlays the knife center exclusive. I feel like it’s a nice knife to target all the knives in the 600dollar range. Which I think will be competitive.
I don’t get this line. The F95NL and NeOn NL basically filled this role for a similar price. Unless those are going to be rebranded under this line then it just feels like they’re rehashing what they’ve already been doing. I’d like to see the old G10 Hatis on washers come back before something like this imo.
I feel like this a good knife at this price. The clip, and back spacers look great. I'd drop a set of stabilized burl scales in. Thanks Jim! Merry HoHo.
From a marketing perspective (as well as not to seem to be gouging the buyer) they should include the relevant 1/4” driver bits necessary for disassembly. Having to buy a Shirogorov tool at $300+ seems grossly opportunistic. I know there’s a 3rd party maker who’s producing more affordable bits, but they’re still not cheap. I’m aware of the hacks ( penny, dime, etc) that will suffice in a pinch, or ground-to-fit flathead bits wrapped in tape, but those are not in keeping with the spirit of the knives’ quality. Too, on some of the higher end pieces, the hardware has completely different configuration that modified bits won’t work on.
@@quaxenleaf That and practically every Shiro on the secondary market has "marring on the screws" in the notes due to the owner having to use those hacks...or maybe even due to the actual manufacturer bits... They definitely should stop that bullshit. But god knows they won't after all these years.
@@JimSkeltonKnives as you told is a good start for someone wanna enter in shiros.....but for me personally, having now in my hands the quantum gen2 that is a real piece of art with all this milling and attention to details to a perfection level, this line of shiros is completely indifferent.
I wanna see Jim review a full custom Shiro,in my opinion it is the top of the mountain as far as knifes go. i have seen him review a custom division model but its an old Hati model,CD has stepped up their game alot. but Sergey's full customs are really something,and impossible to find unfortunately.
You must need to spend a bunch of money to get better packaging because my purple carbon fiber 111 Gen 5 came in the same box and cost twice as much! That sort of threw me off from buying another Shirogorov! Because honestly, the action and feel of my $200 Green Thorn Sigma copy is just as good as the 111! I expected the 111 to feel more like my Rockstead or CR!
As someone who has multiple chris reeve knives and a rockstead Hugo ii it's hard to compare the action both are on bronze washers and the shirogorov is on bearings apples and oranges
@@jamieluvsknives3912 That is true! I guess I expected something else from it. Don’t get me wrong, I do like the knife. I guess I thought its action would feel more like my Rockstead or even the Liong Mah I got today.
I’m not aware of any Shirogorov knife that doesn’t come in a black cardboard box that looks similar to what you show with the exception being the collaborations as those come in a tan box. I’ve never seen packaging for a full custom knife so I can’t speak to the packaging on those.
@@JimSkeltonKnives To be honest with you me too. But whether it's practical purpose cheaper version it seems it would be more suitable. Well polished and more precious type of wood (as you said) is mostly suited for the custom devision. Anyway, thanks a lot for your outstanding and honest review.
I would take one of these in a heartbeat over the Gen 2. What I love most about my Gen 1 is how clean and simple the lines are and I think all the extra of milling they put on the new generation looks like trash.
In Russia he has lost respect, because he sell for comrades failed knives wich he can't sent in US, for full prices and talking with Russian customers like a dushebag...
Then someone else says that it’s ridiculous that the blade isn’t polished, and that it only takes a little time. Someone else thinks it’s ridiculous that they didn’t spend $20 more on packaging. Then someone else thinks it’s ridiculous that there isn’t a fuller milled into the blade. Add up all peoples opinions and you’ve got another $300 added to the price and then where will you be.
@@WhoIsSerafin Not really anymore. Or...even when they were "known" for it. Their actions have been surpassed. Absolutely nothing wrong with the average run-of-the-mill Shirogorov action but they certainly aren't the cream of the crop.
Not gonna lie, I've had knives drop shut on an inconsistent basis, but I didn't quite understand until I got my first MRBS knives. I do not have a single MRBS knife that isn't gravity shut or glassy smooth. I'm no engineer or physicist, but in my experience, MRBS is just objectively better every single time. That being said, if that's as big of a deal as it might be, maybe just meausre the pivot and get some MRBS skiffs. Boyyyyyyyyy the back of that blade looks like it comes pretty darn close to the scales when closed... From a price / product standpoint... It's interesting... and maybe I just know my OWN personal tastes and emotions... but there would be something that just didn't sit well with me about this being my one and only Shiro. For lack of a better word, it's "The poor man's Shiro". Whether accurate or not, I would always have that voice in the back of my head saying "It's TECHNICALLY a Shiro... but it's not REALLY a Shiro...". Of course, it IS a Shiro, and it's MADE BY Shiro, but something just feels weird about a company coming out with a knife that is substantially less expensive than all of their other options and trying to convey that it's somehow "The same". It's "The same", but it's different, and I feel like all the things Shirogorov collectors like about Shiros are somewhat lost in this, so you've got this weird situation where this knife becomes "The Shiro for non-Shiro people" and the "real Shiro people" just stay away.
I've been looking for my second shirogorov knife I have the 95t with the mrbs it was about 1100 and definitely worth the price once you feel that action and see that fit and finish of a shirogorov it's addictive I'm gonna pass on this model I'd rather spend the extra money and get the quantum with the mrbs
I never had a blade of this kind of quality, but I recently got a very good job and have been making more money then I ever have so I've been looking at alot of blades like this. Would you recommend any other blades? My budget would be around 800 bit I'd go higher if the knife was irresistible to me haha.
@@josephlilley9249 I just picked up a trevor burger custom knife the action feels like glass and the ergos of the scales feels like an extension of your hand and you can find them starting at about 900 I paid 1300 but mine has timascus front scale backspacer and clip also check out the koenig arius or the grimsmo norsman or anything by olamic cutlery these are some of the knives I own that I recommend to my friends when they want a higher end knife oh an zieba knives too
Buy American $600 is not a budget knife and most likely f the people who buy these so called budget shirogorov aren’t even gonna use them other then to open up a box our two
Awesome reviews as always!
I’m new to the Shiro’s purchased my first one. This one recently with micarda inlays the knife center exclusive. I feel like it’s a nice knife to target all the knives in the 600dollar range. Which I think will be competitive.
Great review - just purchased knife this morning thank you 🙏
Thanks. That's what I was thinking.
Mine just arrived today and they must’ve seen your video, my inlays are just about perfect. Lol Nice review!
Thanks for the great review, I've got this knife coming and was interested in how and what differences to the even more expensive Shiro's
Just picked up their newest version on MRBS... Can't wait to check it out!! 🔥👊🏼
Just got mine today.. turns out Recon 1 is only 15 minutes away so I drove over there and played with it before pulling the trigger
Just ordered one in carbon fiber from Recon1! Great review!
Saw one with a CF inlay the other day. Think its time to pickup a Ursus.
Wood on a knife doesn’t give me wood in my pants but the rest on the knife looks appetizing
I can’t get past those three backspace pin things. Looks like Hannibal Lecter’s mask.
Picked up one for 500 with the black g10 from a buddy stoked to get my first, shiro even if it is their budget model lol
Waiting for my ursus nl now. Also love my Shadow Systems. Sweet hat!
I think it was the wood inlays in combination with the thinner blade that turned me off.
I don’t get this line. The F95NL and NeOn NL basically filled this role for a similar price. Unless those are going to be rebranded under this line then it just feels like they’re rehashing what they’ve already been doing. I’d like to see the old G10 Hatis on washers come back before something like this imo.
They could have gone with Pakkawood, or Dessert Ironwood something like that.
With the thinner lighter blade you really notice the difference in the action.
I feel like this a good knife at this price. The clip, and back spacers look great. I'd drop a set of stabilized burl scales in. Thanks Jim! Merry HoHo.
I agree. Good value and well made. But an upgrade to the inlay would make it hard to say no to. Merry Christmas!
From a marketing perspective (as well as not to seem to be gouging the buyer) they should include the relevant 1/4” driver bits necessary for disassembly. Having to buy a Shirogorov tool at $300+ seems grossly opportunistic. I know there’s a 3rd party maker who’s producing more affordable bits, but they’re still not cheap. I’m aware of the hacks ( penny, dime, etc) that will suffice in a pinch, or ground-to-fit flathead bits wrapped in tape, but those are not in keeping with the spirit of the knives’ quality. Too, on some of the higher end pieces, the hardware has completely different configuration that modified bits won’t work on.
@@quaxenleaf That and practically every Shiro on the secondary market has "marring on the screws" in the notes due to the owner having to use those hacks...or maybe even due to the actual manufacturer bits...
They definitely should stop that bullshit. But god knows they won't after all these years.
@@JimSkeltonKnives as you told is a good start for someone wanna enter in shiros.....but for me personally, having now in my hands the quantum gen2 that is a real piece of art with all this milling and attention to details to a perfection level, this line of shiros is completely indifferent.
@@JimSkeltonKnives They now offer a G10 inlay version.
I wanna see Jim review a full custom Shiro,in my opinion it is the top of the mountain as far as knifes go.
i have seen him review a custom division model but its an old Hati model,CD has stepped up their game alot.
but Sergey's full customs are really something,and impossible to find unfortunately.
Shirogorov or Todd Beggs If they were priced similarly?
The designers at Shirogorov always do an exceptional job 👌
I would go with Sebenza, don't like bearings.
You must need to spend a bunch of money to get better packaging because my purple carbon fiber 111 Gen 5 came in the same box and cost twice as much! That sort of threw me off from buying another Shirogorov! Because honestly, the action and feel of my $200 Green Thorn Sigma copy is just as good as the 111!
I expected the 111 to feel more like my Rockstead or CR!
As someone who has multiple chris reeve knives and a rockstead Hugo ii it's hard to compare the action both are on bronze washers and the shirogorov is on bearings apples and oranges
@@jamieluvsknives3912 That is true! I guess I expected something else from it. Don’t get me wrong, I do like the knife. I guess I thought its action would feel more like my Rockstead or even the Liong Mah I got today.
I’m not aware of any Shirogorov knife that doesn’t come in a black cardboard box that looks similar to what you show with the exception being the collaborations as those come in a tan box. I’ve never seen packaging for a full custom knife so I can’t speak to the packaging on those.
I wish they used micarta instead of unstabilized wood.
While I’m not a micarta fan, I can agree on this with you. That would have been a better choice.
@@JimSkeltonKnives To be honest with you me too. But whether it's practical purpose cheaper version it seems it would be more suitable. Well polished and more precious type of wood (as you said) is mostly suited for the custom devision. Anyway, thanks a lot for your outstanding and honest review.
Shiro is king!
They make a hell of a great knife, and now in several different price points. I think people can appreciate them all
Mad Russian customs will surely capitalize on custom inlays.
No joke about Google having nothing to say about Cromax PM. When doesn't Google have 8 million things to say about anything?
I would take one of these in a heartbeat over the Gen 2. What I love most about my Gen 1 is how clean and simple the lines are and I think all the extra of milling they put on the new generation looks like trash.
Nice enough knife however that blade shape is not for me.
In Russia he has lost respect, because he sell for comrades failed knives wich he can't sent in US, for full prices and talking with Russian customers like a dushebag...
Ridiculous, you can get a set of top quality multi row bearings for $40 dollars and they can’t put it in 600 plus knife.
Then someone else says that it’s ridiculous that the blade isn’t polished, and that it only takes a little time. Someone else thinks it’s ridiculous that they didn’t spend $20 more on packaging. Then someone else thinks it’s ridiculous that there isn’t a fuller milled into the blade. Add up all peoples opinions and you’ve got another $300 added to the price and then where will you be.
@@JimSkeltonKnives very true, but a large degree of what makes them well known, famous, etc is there action.
@@WhoIsSerafin Not really anymore. Or...even when they were "known" for it. Their actions have been surpassed. Absolutely nothing wrong with the average run-of-the-mill Shirogorov action but they certainly aren't the cream of the crop.
@@Jubakuba well have to disagree with each other
@@Jubakuba I think they have been surpassed by Green Thorn. 🤦♂️
Not gonna lie, I've had knives drop shut on an inconsistent basis, but I didn't quite understand until I got my first MRBS knives. I do not have a single MRBS knife that isn't gravity shut or glassy smooth. I'm no engineer or physicist, but in my experience, MRBS is just objectively better every single time. That being said, if that's as big of a deal as it might be, maybe just meausre the pivot and get some MRBS skiffs.
Boyyyyyyyyy the back of that blade looks like it comes pretty darn close to the scales when closed...
From a price / product standpoint... It's interesting... and maybe I just know my OWN personal tastes and emotions... but there would be something that just didn't sit well with me about this being my one and only Shiro. For lack of a better word, it's "The poor man's Shiro". Whether accurate or not, I would always have that voice in the back of my head saying "It's TECHNICALLY a Shiro... but it's not REALLY a Shiro...". Of course, it IS a Shiro, and it's MADE BY Shiro, but something just feels weird about a company coming out with a knife that is substantially less expensive than all of their other options and trying to convey that it's somehow "The same". It's "The same", but it's different, and I feel like all the things Shirogorov collectors like about Shiros are somewhat lost in this, so you've got this weird situation where this knife becomes "The Shiro for non-Shiro people" and the "real Shiro people" just stay away.
I've been looking for my second shirogorov knife I have the 95t with the mrbs it was about 1100 and definitely worth the price once you feel that action and see that fit and finish of a shirogorov it's addictive I'm gonna pass on this model I'd rather spend the extra money and get the quantum with the mrbs
I never had a blade of this kind of quality, but I recently got a very good job and have been making more money then I ever have so I've been looking at alot of blades like this. Would you recommend any other blades? My budget would be around 800 bit I'd go higher if the knife was irresistible to me haha.
@@josephlilley9249 I just picked up a trevor burger custom knife the action feels like glass and the ergos of the scales feels like an extension of your hand and you can find them starting at about 900 I paid 1300 but mine has timascus front scale backspacer and clip also check out the koenig arius or the grimsmo norsman or anything by olamic cutlery these are some of the knives I own that I recommend to my friends when they want a higher end knife oh an zieba knives too
I wonder why yours is so shake shutty. Mines a guillotine 🤷♂️
31st.
Buy American $600 is not a budget knife and most likely f the people who buy these so called budget shirogorov aren’t even gonna use them other then to open up a box our two
That's a 250.00 dollar knife at best.
Not a chance bro
It’s fucking 625$ 😂🤣
Yep, about 1/5 the cost of a custom.
Phirst.