How Labels Destroy Us | PSYCHO-PASS Anime Discussion
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- PSYCHO-PASS is a great anime to watch from Gen Urobuchi, and it turns 10 this year in 2022. A classic dystopian tale with dark themes and hiden philosophy, PSYCHO-PASS shows a society wrought with complacency, giving all their hard thought over to the Sibyl System, which can "predict" crimes before they happen, and lock up "criminals" who've never committed a crime. This is seen mostly through Akane's journey in the anime, as she feuds with Ginoza, and grows closer to the latent criminals Kogami, Kagari, Kunizuka and Masaoka, all while they chase down the maniacal Shogo Makishima, some for revenge, who seeks to destroy the Sybil System. While it speaks to society as a whole, the purpose of the law, and much more, the entire story is reliant on labels, things like "Citizen" or "Criminal." So, we have to ask the question, how true are they to themselves and each other? Is Kogami really just a "hunting dog" out for revenge? Do they know anyone like Akane tries to, or do they simply judge based on labels alone, like Ginoza? And what about people with no tag, like Makishima? Is Sibyl evil, are they just complacent, or both?
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Ah the joy of finding someone who's as passionate about Psycho Pass as oneself.
Psycho-Pass is my truest love 🤣
When I first watched Psycho-Pass, Makishima's final speech about the replaceability of relationships was what really kept me thinking about the series. Like you said, by reducing people down to what function they serve, it becomes all too easy to make people interchangeable and fail to see them for who they are as a person. And this is not just a side effect of the system, it’s a necessary part of it. The system could not function as it does without the work that Enforcers do, but the work is grueling and undesirable. If citizens saw Enforcers as individual people, they would be horrified both by the lifepath that they were forced into and their inhumane treatment. Viewing them as a criminal ‘other’ to be feared and reviled provides the average citizen a safe vantage point from which to say that the latent criminal got what they deserved. Perhaps even more tragic is the result of the work that the Enforcers do. For a latent criminal, the role of Enforcer is viewed as a best case scenario when compared to lifelong imprisonment. However, their job only serves to perpetuate the cycle, as those they detain in the field are destined for the exact same bleak future as they are. (Also I adore Kagari's character so love to see him talked about here!)
Since I looked at this as a sort of extension of my earlier video, I didn't really consider the necessity of the labels to Sibyl itself, but these are good additional points I missed. The way they provide a means of justification for what Enforcers are made to do, and turning the very thing which sustains Sibyl into the thing this society hates is honestly a chilling thought. And the cyclical nature of that is one of the most Psycho-Pass things, for how many times I've called the ending "cyclical" I don't know how I missed that! Thank you for the perspective! : )
Reminds me of Ancient Rome. Rome was opelant and grand, with people living luxurious lives, and where many things were invented.
However, the only reason Rome could be the way it was was because of a giant population of slaves. So to see people as slaves and not individuals helps justify building the civilization on their backs.
@@Hiya8partyz it reminds me of today and the complexes of dehumanization (prison, industrial, etc.) our global economy runs on
we learn: labels are like everything else in life: two-sided like a pistol. it can hang on the wall for years, but in the "wrong" hands it can harm people. ultimately, we decide how we want to see the world. what we want to hear. who we want to be today or tomorrow. I would like to add something else; a question: does a person have to be able to change himself internally before he can change society? or does the change of the outer begin in the inside? and which people are able to change society? think to change that? - I love your work, prof.
I wish I remembered the exact quote or source, but I believe it's from Camus' "The Rebel," but it goes something like "revolution is man recognizing something in himself which he views positive for everyone." I haven't found much to make me challenge that idea yet, so I'd say it starts from the inside. We react to society, then decide if it was right or wrong. As for who can, I think anyone can try. Some will always have advantage in this, money, time, and so on, but if it begins internally then anyone should have the ability to try. For me, it's certainly an internal start and a slow attempt which came simply from the idea to try
@@ProfessorViral just wanna ask you one more thing: what would life look like without all those labels/hierachies?
@@Arschkratzer Chaos. You view yourself as "human", right? That's a label. Labels are alright in little measure; when they aren't harmful to those they're applied to, but in all things there is yin and yang, moderation and extremism... All things are harmful if they're used too much, too often.
@@Arschkratzer Human beings are social animals. But what makes us different from other animals is that we just can't act with our pure instinct, we have ability to choose.Thus we are thinking creatures. Some people say that degree/PhD is useless,skills are the only thing this is also smth that makes us away from reality. Degree/PhD creates a label, that determines our status in the society
Just finished this show last week and words cannot describe how happy I am to see someone is still discussing about PSYCHO-PASS, especially the 1st season, in 2022. This anime went from "Aight this show has been sitting in my watchlist for too long, time to watch it once and for all" to "This anime will be living rent free in my head", imo. Amazing.
I'm glad that you discussed this anime it's literally one of my favorite and it's truly underrated. I ret love to hear your takes on my favorite animes
Between Black Lagoon and Psycho Pass, I'm hooked on your content. Love your deeper analysis on aspects of these shows that are so easy to miss. Always looking forward to new content from you!
Thank you, I'm always happy to provide!
I love this series. But I do LOVE "the real world is much more complex." It is. And this work of art tries so hard to show us that.
This is an incredible video thank you for putting the time and effort into this. I agree with so much of it and wish we all can be more like Akane.
Loved Psycho Pass! Glad you’re touching on it again !
I always have to dip back to my first love now and then 🤣
I love the calm introspection of your content!
Thanks, glad you've enjoyed it!
Will definetly give those videos a watch ones i finish psycho pass ! Keep it up dude really love your content and good luck ! :D
Thank you, I appreciate that!
I love this take so much. And I feel like it is becoming more and more relevant both in the way it seems people want to collect labels for themselves and have those labels validated by other people and also how we (via the media mostly) have distilled strangers down to labels either that society gives them or even ones they give themselves (such as political or religious affiliations). We decide that that is all they are, and then categorize them as "good" or "bad" people based on how we personally feel about these labels, or how we've been told to feel about them. Also I don't think you touched on it specifically but I think Akane's friends, while minor, are a really important look at the replacibility of people in this society and the inability to really know somebody because of the systems labels. We see that her friends don't know or understand her, they just see her as the girl that got good test scores and is lucky in life. Yet they consider each other friends. Psycho Pass has been one of my favorite anime for years and listening to someone else talk about it just reaffirms that for me, I think I'm due for a rewatch soon though haha
fine ill rewatch psycho pass again
Me, once a year
Great video!!! :D I love Psycho-Pass and your video's very meaningful! :)
Thank you!
FOR THE ALGORITHM!!!
Thanks! 🤣
Damn I didn’t know this was an anime, imma just have to pause and go watch. Then I will return to this.
Please make a video aboud tokyo revengers if you do like ore feel interested in the serie, keep it going 😁
I can't say I've heard any more about it than the name, but for my chances of watching something that probably increases them honestly haha
Another fantastic Psycho Pass video! PP still proves to be thought-provoking, even if it hasn't occupied my mind for a while.
You bring up an excellent point about labels. It's something to classify people or things as, because the human mind requires that to make choices. However, they can be brought to their extremes, as society does. To be labelled black is to endure racism and violence, to be labelled white is to have privilege, for example. Those labels are simple things, yet the reasons behind them are complex and sympathetic yet nothing is done about it, like latent criminals. To be labelled as a latent criminal is to be the scum of society, to be labelled a citizen is to live a stress-free life. But those are the labels, not the stories.
To be a latent criminal is to be killed or shoved into a mental 'rehab' facility where you're left with nothing but white rooms and your thoughts (plus, those prisons always have stood out to me because they seem more like white room torture than anything. Not quite it, but it veers very close to it). If you manage to escape that, then you get the new label of 'Enforcer', and then treated like a mad dog. An improvement from society's garbage and providing freedom, but freedom for a mad dog is to be kept on a tight leash, away from the pristine cities of the citizens and society.
To be a citizen is to be stress-free yes, but it also means to willingly suppress your own thoughts, desires, and emotions until it becomes second nature until that becomes your nature: complacent sheep, waking up, taking mental supplements, eating a meal prepared by an AI, in a holo home that covers up the plastic and concrete. To be a citizen is to give up your free will. But it is perceived by society at large to be the ideal life, where you live thoughtless and happy, and live mortal and fleeting.
Labels simplify things, and that's not a bad thing. There are some things where you don't need a thorough understanding. I don't need to know the date of creation, which factory it was created in, who wrapped it, for bubble gum.
But labels become a problem when a label is used to embody someone or something.
This minds me of a conversation I had with someone. We were talking about how things in other countries only work because culturally they were made to accept it. Though he then pointed out that we culturally accept things that are also very much something an outsider would see as things were only culturally accept as well. We so often see things outside of ourselves as prisons, but are unwilling to look into a dark mirror and see you stand in a prison, though different, produces similar results.
I am glad that in Canada at least we are hoping to reform our criminal justice system. Trying to use restorative justice instead of just punishment. Though there are still numerous other problems to deal with. At the very least our prisoners can still vote even while serving their time. While in the USA voting is seen more as a privilege than a right. It is a cruel of casting people out and then never letting them change what made them in the first place.
I'm terrible at reading into art, but your essays and insides have been very helpful in understanding media. If one day you have the time I think Genocidal Organ has themes that would be interesting to unpack. Even I can see some of the themes going on, but I don't think I could ever uncover them all.
If you want to take your place properly in the hierarchy, part of your goal is to be a good person. We have a very old system in our nervous systems that keeps track of where we are in hierarchies, and it regulates our emotions. If you are not a complete psychopath, then you have a place in a social hierarchy. You are admired, respected, and valued by other people - and the neurochemical system that keeps track of that regulates your other emotions.
-Jordan Petersen
Jordan Peterson is a moron
This is the most realistic anime ever
It's too real for being 2112. But, I guess that's part of it, some of what it explores are just the flaws society never fixed
Our brains are so lazy. Criminal labels are too strict. Makishima is obsessed with uniqueness and despises simplicity. The whole concept of "normalness" isnt applicable to society as a whole.
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I think there are sometimes where simplicity is good, but there are definitely times I despise it. Like Makishima, I hate it overtaking our interactions
There's a fuzzy line between "laziness" and "efficiency". Everything is difficult. Everything is complicated. Simplicity and ease are earned by way of interacting and deconstructing. By learning what is relevant and when. Arguably, ease and simplicity rely on each other.
Normalcy, as a literal number's game and a fluid designation, isn't applicable....it's inescapable. Jeez, that's....ominous
Simplicity, Contextlessness, Ignorance, Complacency, Conformity
The triangle's angles were 90°, 45° and 45°
I'm not sure that Kogami's story should have ended with Season 1. The story that follows isn't his or Akane's, but rather the story of Sybil, it's evolution or more broadly speaking the evolution of a society-governing system. I for one like to believe that it's possible for society to really change and look to welcome back people it once disenfranchised.
Perhaps it's less dramatic in terms of a fictional media, a product made to be consumed for enjoyment, but just like you mentioned, art is a representation of reality, of real people. Maybe the people behind later instalments of Psycho-Pass believe that such positive societal change is possible, rather than us living in a dystopian world where things can only get worse, or remain just as bad in the best case.
I would love to talk wirh somebody about anime
name of the song?
the song for this one is Loop Caught