I used this yesterday to check a car that crashed into my dads 04 plate focus on the 16th august although the car that caused the accident was showing as insured and only a few days mot left it turned out the other vehicle had already been written off 2 months prior to the accident so really other car should not have been on the road.
What we’re the T&C of the turbo purchase? Many companies will not cover issues unless they fit them. It’s a huge grey area for customers who put their faith in others, often they get stuck in the middle at their cost. I always get delicate parts like turbos from the garage who fit them, that way they take 100% responsibility.
New James, buying and flipping for a quick drink, no warranty, in and out, no trade to trade talk, no transporters, no spares or repairs talk, how refreshing.
That noise is waste gate leakage. They are liable for further costs and don't forget to add your admin charges and associated costs. You need to speak to a lawyer and make sure that those costs are included too. I recently had a similar problem with a cylinder head, stripped it and sent it for pressure testing due to a suspected crack, report said all OK, rebuilt engine, started and same fault, coolant over pressurising, stripped again, returned to testers and spoke with them personally, they claimed they found no leaks, I asked them to show me the test rig, they took me through and showed me, they even did the test on the head again, then I noticed that they never blanked off the exhaust ports, they responded with "they don't have the equipment to do that", so I showed them their test report paperwork which states the Exhaust was blanked and leak present, I then showed them the now highly visible crack between the #3 port and water jacket. worse than that, it had propagated to the oil channel and when draining the oil we got the dreaded milkshake, leading to a full oil system flush/rebuild. The claimed they were not responsible, correspondence started and 3 months later and a trip to court with my lawyer, we proved that their deceit, incompetence and fraudulent claims of abilities left me with a victory and full recouping of all costs incl, £25 for every phone call I had to make with them. Do not try this without a lawyer who specialises in this area, and also contact trading standards for their county, they may be on a watch list and they too will help.
Before you go crazy with the turbo company bud, check oil pressure to it, if it's low, clogged pipe it'll just keep blowing turbos, I did one on a Peugeot, he'd completely not maintained it, oil was rubbery tar, I cleaned it all out, did a proper job, turbo only lasted a while, looked like low oil pressure, having said that companies use cheap Chinese cartridges in their re con turbos, but tbh if its basically blown 3 I'd go for lubricant problems.Not done a dacia so I'm not familiar with them, but on the 1.6 hdi engines, Ford, citroen, ones they won't warranty them as there so prone to oil problems, I always use Reco turbo at Doncaster and have had great service and free mugs!!
Thanks for the shout out mate, nothing wrong with buying unseen if it's cheap enough, I've done it loads of time, always someone for a freeloader mate, my rusty one is actually the newer shape (09)so just unlucky I guess, I've not had many problems with the old ones, got one unseen a few mths ago for 275 on a 05,got 1295 for it with 200k on it, I'm going to do an impression of you on my next video mate, ha, ha.
Turbo from eBay 🤣🤣 that's a big mistake James. Well done for telling the story and a good example of why to never buy a turbo from eBay! As a professional mechanic I've had customer ask me to to fit a turbo and say we have the part from eBay 🤣 I'm like yeah no thanks. More hassle than it's worth in my eyes. Obviously I refuse the job in a polite way hahaha. Good luck with the claim and look forward to hearing about it. All the best James and keep up the good content.
Compared to keywise cars of rewe exeter you are honest a few years back I was stung by the said dealership because of the low mileage I bought a piece of rusty Scottish cr@p. It was cr@p aswell
Had same problem buying recon turbo for wife's old mini which was a Peugeot engine 1.6 same as that Citroen you just sold , Ebay was a waste of time in the end sent it to local turbo re conditioner which ended up perfect but was £350 but lost £200 from ebay seller .but still better than buying new garret turbo which was £1500
I don't understand the obsession about low mileage on older cars. Low mileage usually means the car was used for stop and go driving and probably got to proper operating temperature infrequently. Low mileage older cars driven like that are usually in worse mechanical condition then cars that have been driven higher mileages and maintained properly. Most mechanical wear takes place when the vehicle is below operating temperature and driven in stop and go traffic.
With you on that. Anything with less than 2000 miles a year on it has likely only rarely got to operating temp, or spent long periods sitting drying out seals and putting rust rings in the cylinder. Any car you need to ask "why?" is worth avoiding. But people like unrealistically low miles and don't ask "why?" If you flip it put a good warranty on it James.
I do agree, however it does depend on the model of car your talking about. My focus ST covered 1200 miles last year. My car is always run upto temp then driven lightly for the first 15-20 miles to allow the oil to get up to a good temp then I can put my foot down a little 🤫 But I love a good high mileage hero cheap and cheerful I'm not a badge snob either. In fact I'll drive anything a bit like James really but hot hatches have always been my thing.
You have a point but it depends on the car and how its been treated, I was going to buy a car, there was a 8 year old car, opened the door it still had the new car smell, this was before it had been valeted, the engine looked new and was ticking over like a sewing machine, it was immaculate, one owner so I bought it, had it for another 6 years, sailed through every mot, never gave any issues, the same car could have been sat outside near the seaside, unloved, not maintained, it's always down to the total package.
@@Taz6688 mechanical wear and tear is still at its worst when a car is only driven in stop and go traffic and not brought up to temperature. It doesn't matter how good it smells and a higher mileage car can go through its MOT too A MOT is no guarantee of mechanical condition either. A vehicle can require a lot of repair between MOT's. Chop's sells all his vehicles with a MOT and several of them have required repair, some pretty significant, within six months. Even some vehicles described as "IMMACULATE".
@@williamegler8771 I have seen fleet cars well maintained that are a heap of rust, my old boss ran his into the ground, he hated it and abused it, someone bought it thinking it was ok. as I said its the total package, if the car is good inside, no rust, good engine then I would buy it, I have seen cars with low mileage and underneath rusty as hell, others clean as a whistle, mine was low mileage and was quiet ticking over, never used much oil and was still good when it died from being hit by another driver not looking.
Yonks ago I had a turbo fitted by Turbo Technics in Northampton. The tech took it out for a run, came back saying "it's working, but something feels off. I'm going to ask a colleague to check it out". A while later they said they were putting a second one on as they weren't happy the turbo was perfect - and sorry for the delay, grab yourself a coffee etc. Had the car for 35k miles after with no issues and it ran better than ever. Haven't needed them since, but I was very impressed with them.
I know its a bit risky but my friend used a low mileage used turbo from a breakers and had it checked balanced and new seals etc before getting it fitted which was way cheaper than new and a genuine part and not a cheap copy part.
@@bumfluffmcregor3730 I get they need to show but do we really need to be shown it on a car that's not even on the channel salvage rebuilds are really bad for it its like every video of there's these channels have become more of a advertisment and TH-cam has enough of them as it is
Always go for an oex turbo if you can. They are remanufactured by the original manufacturer. Expensive but cheaper than new. They will be set up properly and balanced.
You might find the get out is not using the fitting kit, taking sump off, new pick up pipe ect, when I get a turbo job in its worrying as has it failed because of lube problems and customers don't get it that they need perfect lubrication, sounds like wastegate adjustment problems on that last one tho.
The small capacity, turbocharged engine issues, irrespective of vehicle manufacturer, just go on and on. If they're not properly serviced/over serviced, and driven with a little mechanical sense, you'll have trouble. NEVER labour the engine in too higher gear, ALWAYS use a good quality fuel system/injector additive to keep the carbon down, and minimise pre-ignition. ALWAYS use exactly the correct engine oil, If it says 0/20 on the cap, use 0/20, not 5/20 or 5/30. If it needs Dexos 1 gen 2, only use Dexos 1 gen 2, NOT Halfords own label. NEVER buy cheapo 'refurb' 'Alispeed turbos. ALWAYS minimally go OEX. Try and use E5 if available, the E10 Sunflower juice destroys small high tune motors.
A customer of mine kept bringing e Bay parts, it was unusual for them to actually fit, I always use sdl or euro, if it's wrong they just take St back, no problems.
I've been with Ebay for 10 years,I've had 3 issues of a similar type that you have.These companies are as dishonest as a Politician,on every occasion I have let Ebay sort it.The results being refunds plus expenses on all faulty items,Ebay are good they put the customer first. The sellers know that if they are not honest they won't last long on Ebay.
I'm currently taking Porsche GB to court over their refusal to reimburse me for the damage caused after a suspension part failed in 2020. The part was already under investigation due to a fault in manufacturing when the car was built, it affected Caymans between 2013/14. They did a recall in 2021 but insist that the cost of the replacement I had fitted in 2020, labour and the damage caused when the part failed is my responsibility. The Consumer Protection Act says different, but they won't accept responsibility for 'work carried out outside of the dealership network'. The dealers were shut due to covid, but the part failing was the problem.
Chopper car vertical is expensive if your only buying junkers does it matter car prices will plummet back to normal prices within a few months ..people will be shocked then when they paid 4 or 5 k for a 2k motor it will happen
I've also learnt the hard way that 'refurbished' is just another way of saying 'sub-standard part that'll fail immediately and the seller will piss you about and cost you a blooming fortune'. In hindsight, the cost of OE Manufacturers Parts don't seem so steep after all.
You should be able to plug a manual oil gauge into the oil pressure sender, I'd deffo check that, if oil pressure is low then all the new turbos in the world aren't going to last. All most of these companies do is fit a new Chinese cartridge in the turbo, but tbh if you've got good lube they should be OK, 99% of ongoing turbo problems are lubrication related, a garage I knew fitted 4 until they noticed they'd kinked the oil feed, at the minimum I'd take off the oil feed, wrap it in a plastic bag and see how much oil comes out, should be loads.
That’s the problem sourcing parts yourself and getting a garage to fit. Much better let them get them for you, at least if there’s a fault it’s not your problem to sort. Not worth the aggro. Good video 😊
Don’t you still have the second replacement turbo? - the one with the whooshing noise is presumably still in the car? or have you sent that back already? If you’ve still got it then you can use that as a trade-in?
In my experience, if the turbo refurbishes are doggy. They will immediately try and transfer the case from your local court to there’s,in the hope you will not want to travel. If that is the case write to the court and explain you are the injured party. You are already out of pocket and want it transferred back! Good luck.
I bought a Spark new and ran it for three years. It was the first car I had that never went back to the dealer for anything. I'd have bought another Chevy but they pulled out of the UK They also made a Spark EV which was absurdly quick.
Pop your finger in the turbo bud and waggle the fins about if there's play, twice it may not be getting oil bud, I blow petrol and carb cleaner down the oil feed with the sump plug out and watch it flow thru, maybe start it up with the oil feed off and see if plenty of oil flows.
The trouble with all these car checks is that if an insurance company decides to repair an accident damaged car instead of writing it off then it doesn't appear on HPI or Car Vertical. It's just a matter of which is cheaper for the insurance company to do. I run a Cat D car. I've had it five years, done over 60,000 miles and its fine. It's fully serviced by the local specialist, and no its not for sale 😁
Trouble is will the rules not the checks. I think its outrageous one car can go on register for a dented wing and another be involved in a massive accident, be insurance repaired and never noted
guy you need to make a video calling them out. if I was you I'd send them a link to this video. Once they realise you have quite a few followers you'll see their tone change
Oh no…..a Freelander, just no, horrible things, never liked them, and an auto…..wow, that’s adding an extra layer of “will it won’t it” breakdown jeopardy……😳😳😳👍🇮🇲
Last 3 occasions I've used ECP, I've been supplied incorrect parts. Staff at my local branch are clueless. Last time I had to take an order back, the only people in the branch were people complaining and returning items. Took me half an hour of queueing behind some very unhsppy people to get my refund. Hopeless.
There is no such thing as a free lunch! A properly reconditioned turbo for less than the cost of the parts and labour to carry out the work, simply isnt going to happen. Cowboys like these are becoming more and more common now, and while I can see members of the getting taken by them time and time again, it seems strange that someone in the trade would get had over so easily? They will have already been taken to court hundreds of times, and while after about a year, and a lot of expense, getting a judgement against them seems likely, there will be almost zero chance of getting it enforced.
any business that does,nt play fair with its costomers , these days...is nuts...ever heard of social media...bad news travels fast...even if its sorted later...the taste still lingers.... and so do the bad service...
CarVertical again. Not Chops woe. Mega channel. Truth of the trade. Maybe I’ve heard CV once too many times. I even even Cvv ticker crypto coin so know the company. I’ve had turbo noise each every way after 8000 cars. I refuse a small THP esque petrol turbo and any Turbo diesel. Strange as may be. Work on risk reduction strategy. We don’t need fill in turbo cars in the trade. Sell just easy mechanical cars. One of em. Jobs tough. It just is.
Just a quick queery on the turbos.Once they were fitted were they set up on boost correctly? If not they can blow by or even blow up if theres not adequate over pressure relief.Also when a turbo is rebuilt its needs balancing much like a wheel or propshaft.
Freelanders are terrible. I bet at least 1 of the electric windows don’t work including the rear tailgate and does it have its prop shaft too the diff still??
Ha, ha mate, I've had all those problems, sometimes in the same vehicle, most are missing props, so it's just a fwd rover basically,amazing if all windows work.
James I don't know the full story in relation to your TCE but people in France and abroad are taking legal action against Renault in relation to those engines. Might be worth Googling it
I don't know if this is correct but I think Business to Business rules are different from Consumer law! Hopefully you bought from your personal account? Good luck getting it all sorted. It is terrible when a companies product failed and you end up paying to get it sorted.
Find a genuine parts suppliers with good reviews, cutting corners ie: eBay cause it's cheap, it isn't good practice either you will be out of pocket or your good name may suffer with dodgy parts failing 👍
Sounds like like bearing? The thing the fins are on is shot. Mine sounded the same on previous car. They took the pipes off and could see soon as the fins are spinning it whines and get louder the faster it spins.
wish you had brought a more expensive decent one rather than an ebay special, although im suprised the turbo has gone, its rare on those dacias, has it been serviced properally?
That Turbo sounds a bit like my last Girlfriend! Don’t worry about the car being an ex-driving school car. The examiner will do a visual check of the exterior and the interior before the start of the test. There must be no warning lights on and all tyres and lights must be in good order. They can even refuse it if the car is particularly dirty or the screen wash is frozen. You could park a driving school car with 150k on the clock next to a new car and it would be difficult to tell the difference
Waste gate should have been pre set by the rebuilder, I've never had to mess about with it, fitting to good used one should be a tester, if all OK, they've definitely cocked it up, do a video and attach it to an e mail, I'd have thought refund was limited to just the item, but you never know.
This is the problem with eBay you get offered a warranty. But eBay dispute is 30days . I would speak to eBay about your issue. Because that can just take the money for you
Hi James,nice quick bit of profit on the freelander for no effort,so I personally don't buy anything anymore from ebay because of the hassle if you have to send back or need refund but sounds like they need to be taught a lesson tbh,definitely the auto fabia will sell straight away when you get it back,hopefully you can sell the i20 before you need to advertise it,cheers james🤙👌👍
You got no chance for extra costs, they are only legally responsible for the replacement to be provided or a refund provided Especially with used and refurbed parts, they only have to gaurentee and replace. They would only be responsible if they were providing and fitting themselves As someone that works with garages, this would be something you would obviously really know If this was the case people could be putting in claims all day for anything and fraud would be rife Install shit parts and make mad claims for everything to fix your shitbox
Actually many garage I work with have had consequential costs refund by parts suppliers. And no terms override standard right. Everything comes down to what a judge decides. Fraudulent claims are rife that's why evidence must to available to back up your claim. Its not my first rodeo ride.
HOW box gonnna be. Most important thing ??? NO NO NO NO … engines and boxes almost always outlast rest of poor old school JLR product early Freelander mechanicals. . The car will be a bag bolts but engine and gearbox hold up. I do like them. Tho.
@@markmiller5577 lol! Oh I'd love to live in your world where a simple service history and MOT history check could determine if a car was ok! Serviced with a new advisory free mot, ace, so the dual mass flywheel will be fine eh, oh and it definitely can be burning oil, or overheating in traffic if the mot and the service are there lol!!
@@ChopsGarage 30 years of motoring,only bought 2 bad cars ,and they where from local dealers ...take your chance I say 20 good cars from private sellers.
@@markmiller5577 Id put money on when you say bad cars, they needed fixes but I bet you are not counting the fixes you needed to do to the private sales cars. Dealers are selling the same age cars ,chances are they can have same issues, difference is they are obliged to fix, private sellers are not
I'd be amazed James if you have any success claiming for consequential loss. In my experience the word "refurbished" has in recent years come to mean "wiped over with a damp cloth" if you're lucky!
In my opinion only there is a moral to the turbo issue; don't cut costs/corners by using ebay... one of the worst the market places that shite is advertised!
Good luck with the small claims court. If they are as dodgy as the sound though you will probably win the action, they’ll just ignore it. Happened to my friend. Put his Suzuki Vitara 4x4 in for an engine rebuild, after months of being fobbed off by the rebuild company and of course not having his car took them to court, won no reaction further court action , no response. Finally sent in bailiffs and they came away empty handed because they said there was nothing of significant value in the workshop. So he has lost the car and is heavily out of pocket on court costs. That’s the problem - these courts have no real teeth if the person being sued ignores it all then there’s nothing you can do. Ok they have a judgement against them but they probably have hundreds already!! Still wish you luck mate. I reckon the low mileage used one should be a good fix though. Probably better than a rebuild from an unknown company.
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Good grief 24 pounds for a check lol
He gets some of your money when you use his code
@@tommydee5344 nope wrong, not a penny from use of code
@@Calvi36 not sure why it would. All other channels have sponsor's, tv has adverts and you pay a licence for that
I used this yesterday to check a car that crashed into my dads 04 plate focus on the 16th august although the car that caused the accident was showing as insured and only a few days mot left it turned out the other vehicle had already been written off 2 months prior to the accident so really other car should not have been on the road.
One man's addiction to buying unknown cars that nobody wants makes great content for us. Keep up the good work 👍
Lol cheers
I like the way he keeps older cars not only on the road, but also pretty smart
What we’re the T&C of the turbo purchase? Many companies will not cover issues unless they fit them. It’s a huge grey area for customers who put their faith in others, often they get stuck in the middle at their cost. I always get delicate parts like turbos from the garage who fit them, that way they take 100% responsibility.
Matt at Highpeak Autos is a great bloke, very genuine and honest, a lot like yourself James👍👍
New James, buying and flipping for a quick drink, no warranty, in and out, no trade to trade talk, no transporters, no spares or repairs talk, how refreshing.
Erm wait for next vid lol
@@ChopsGarage hope it's not gone wrong bud,, since the budget I've not had a single call by the way, not one.
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That noise is waste gate leakage. They are liable for further costs and don't forget to add your admin charges and associated costs. You need to speak to a lawyer and make sure that those costs are included too.
I recently had a similar problem with a cylinder head, stripped it and sent it for pressure testing due to a suspected crack, report said all OK, rebuilt engine, started and same fault, coolant over pressurising, stripped again, returned to testers and spoke with them personally, they claimed they found no leaks, I asked them to show me the test rig, they took me through and showed me, they even did the test on the head again, then I noticed that they never blanked off the exhaust ports, they responded with "they don't have the equipment to do that", so I showed them their test report paperwork which states the Exhaust was blanked and leak present, I then showed them the now highly visible crack between the #3 port and water jacket. worse than that, it had propagated to the oil channel and when draining the oil we got the dreaded milkshake, leading to a full oil system flush/rebuild. The claimed they were not responsible, correspondence started and 3 months later and a trip to court with my lawyer, we proved that their deceit, incompetence and fraudulent claims of abilities left me with a victory and full recouping of all costs incl, £25 for every phone call I had to make with them. Do not try this without a lawyer who specialises in this area, and also contact trading standards for their county, they may be on a watch list and they too will help.
And FYI, I am only 30 mins away from you.
The lying crumpets
Cool that you watch high peak autos, I follow him as well.
Keep us updated on your legal case with this video your legal stories are great 👍
Midland turbo Nottingham, used 20years and hundreds only one issue great company 👍
Before you go crazy with the turbo company bud, check oil pressure to it, if it's low, clogged pipe it'll just keep blowing turbos, I did one on a Peugeot, he'd completely not maintained it, oil was rubbery tar, I cleaned it all out, did a proper job, turbo only lasted a while, looked like low oil pressure, having said that companies use cheap Chinese cartridges in their re con turbos, but tbh if its basically blown 3 I'd go for lubricant problems.Not done a dacia so I'm not familiar with them, but on the 1.6 hdi engines, Ford, citroen, ones they won't warranty them as there so prone to oil problems, I always use Reco turbo at Doncaster and have had great service and free mugs!!
@@mariemccann5895 you usually Bob some lube in that's supplied
@@mariemccann5895 didn't know you were there luv?
Focus same
@@hgvnovice2011 I know mate, done a few.
Thanks for the shout out mate, nothing wrong with buying unseen if it's cheap enough, I've done it loads of time, always someone for a freeloader mate, my rusty one is actually the newer shape (09)so just unlucky I guess, I've not had many problems with the old ones, got one unseen a few mths ago for 275 on a 05,got 1295 for it with 200k on it, I'm going to do an impression of you on my next video mate, ha, ha.
Turbo from eBay 🤣🤣 that's a big mistake James. Well done for telling the story and a good example of why to never buy a turbo from eBay! As a professional mechanic I've had customer ask me to to fit a turbo and say we have the part from eBay 🤣 I'm like yeah no thanks. More hassle than it's worth in my eyes. Obviously I refuse the job in a polite way hahaha. Good luck with the claim and look forward to hearing about it. All the best James and keep up the good content.
Doesn't eBay have a quality control guarantee for car parts, so people can't just list any old thing? I'm sure I read somewhere that they do...
Same here, got burned during lockdown when motor factors didn't have stock.
Never used eBay since.
Rained off work and an unexpected chops to watch, great.
Compared to keywise cars of rewe exeter you are honest a few years back I was stung by the said dealership because of the low mileage I bought a piece of rusty Scottish cr@p. It was cr@p aswell
Had same problem buying recon turbo for wife's old mini which was a Peugeot engine 1.6 same as that Citroen you just sold , Ebay was a waste of time in the end sent it to local turbo re conditioner which ended up perfect but was £350 but lost £200 from ebay seller .but still better than buying new garret turbo which was £1500
I don't understand the obsession about low mileage on older cars.
Low mileage usually means the car was used for stop and go driving and probably got to proper operating temperature infrequently.
Low mileage older cars driven like that are usually in worse mechanical condition then cars that have been driven higher mileages and maintained properly.
Most mechanical wear takes place when the vehicle is below operating temperature and driven in stop and go traffic.
With you on that. Anything with less than 2000 miles a year on it has likely only rarely got to operating temp, or spent long periods sitting drying out seals and putting rust rings in the cylinder. Any car you need to ask "why?" is worth avoiding. But people like unrealistically low miles and don't ask "why?"
If you flip it put a good warranty on it James.
I do agree, however it does depend on the model of car your talking about. My focus ST covered 1200 miles last year. My car is always run upto temp then driven lightly for the first 15-20 miles to allow the oil to get up to a good temp then I can put my foot down a little 🤫
But I love a good high mileage hero cheap and cheerful I'm not a badge snob either. In fact I'll drive anything a bit like James really but hot hatches have always been my thing.
You have a point but it depends on the car and how its been treated, I was going to buy a car, there was a 8 year old car, opened the door it still had the new car smell, this was before it had been valeted, the engine looked new and was ticking over like a sewing machine, it was immaculate, one owner so I bought it, had it for another 6 years, sailed through every mot, never gave any issues, the same car could have been sat outside near the seaside, unloved, not maintained, it's always down to the total package.
@@Taz6688 mechanical wear and tear is still at its worst when a car is only driven in stop and go traffic and not brought up to temperature.
It doesn't matter how good it smells and a higher mileage car can go through its MOT too
A MOT is no guarantee of mechanical condition either.
A vehicle can require a lot of repair between MOT's.
Chop's sells all his vehicles with a MOT and several of them have required repair, some pretty significant, within six months.
Even some vehicles described as "IMMACULATE".
@@williamegler8771 I have seen fleet cars well maintained that are a heap of rust, my old boss ran his into the ground, he hated it and abused it, someone bought it thinking it was ok. as I said its the total package, if the car is good inside, no rust, good engine then I would buy it, I have seen cars with low mileage and underneath rusty as hell, others clean as a whistle, mine was low mileage and was quiet ticking over, never used much oil and was still good when it died from being hit by another driver not looking.
If it was an e Bay 149 special mate you get what you pay for, you might have to chalk it up to experience.
Totally fair response James…..why should you be out of pocket, there’s so many dodgy sellers out there, it’s a minefield…..👍🇮🇲
True
If you get anywhere with the claim I'll be surprised for extra costs, will be interesting to see.
Yonks ago I had a turbo fitted by Turbo Technics in Northampton. The tech took it out for a run, came back saying "it's working, but something feels off. I'm going to ask a colleague to check it out". A while later they said they were putting a second one on as they weren't happy the turbo was perfect - and sorry for the delay, grab yourself a coffee etc. Had the car for 35k miles after with no issues and it ran better than ever.
Haven't needed them since, but I was very impressed with them.
Heard good things about them
Good luck with the claim. Hopefully the court will be sympathetic but nothing makes up for the frustration.
Cheers
I know its a bit risky but my friend used a low mileage used turbo from a breakers and had it checked balanced and new seals etc before getting it fitted which was way cheaper than new and a genuine part and not a cheap copy part.
I stopped buying anything from ebay years ago. Just about everything I bought off there turned out to be fake or dodgy in the some way.
Carvertical is on every channel I watch. They've saturated TH-cam to the point of developing the opposite of what they're trying to achieve!
I agree it's starting to ruin these car channels people say just skip them but you miss bits they go on far to long
I had nothing against car vertical but after watching their ad on every channel for a year now I'd like to set their offices on fire
@@bumfluffmcregor3730 I get they need to show but do we really need to be shown it on a car that's not even on the channel salvage rebuilds are really bad for it its like every video of there's these channels have become more of a advertisment and TH-cam has enough of them as it is
@@garethshiner879 yeah I'm wondering why I pay for you tube premium I'm still getting ads just in another way
Check the PVC Valve(s) make sure they're opening and closing.
PCV
I had an Astra van with a similar whistling turbo, ran it for 2 years no problem, it was company van.
Hi James have you contacted a dispute as well with eBay as they may take the seller off there for this.
Always go for an oex turbo if you can. They are remanufactured by the original manufacturer. Expensive but cheaper than new. They will be set up properly and balanced.
Hi Matthew,
can you please tell me what a oex turbo is, thank you.
You might find the get out is not using the fitting kit, taking sump off, new pick up pipe ect, when I get a turbo job in its worrying as has it failed because of lube problems and customers don't get it that they need perfect lubrication, sounds like wastegate adjustment problems on that last one tho.
Loving the Landy Freelander :}
You are every lawyers dream
You have to be the most honest car seller out there. Great video. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
in the videos
Where has your Jackanory chair gone?
The small capacity, turbocharged engine issues, irrespective of vehicle manufacturer, just go on and on. If they're not properly serviced/over serviced, and driven with a little mechanical sense, you'll have trouble. NEVER labour the engine in too higher gear, ALWAYS use a good quality fuel system/injector additive to keep the carbon down, and minimise pre-ignition. ALWAYS use exactly the correct engine oil, If it says 0/20 on the cap, use 0/20, not 5/20 or 5/30. If it needs Dexos 1 gen 2, only use Dexos 1 gen 2, NOT Halfords own label. NEVER buy cheapo 'refurb' 'Alispeed turbos. ALWAYS minimally go OEX. Try and use E5 if available, the E10 Sunflower juice destroys small high tune motors.
A customer of mine kept bringing e Bay parts, it was unusual for them to actually fit, I always use sdl or euro, if it's wrong they just take St back, no problems.
Freelander actually looks like a really nice bit of kit.
Best to leave the garage doing the repair to source the parts needed.
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Quality advice, if its a duff they buy,it's on them to sort it.
I've been with Ebay for 10 years,I've had 3 issues of a similar type that you have.These companies are as dishonest as a Politician,on every occasion I have let Ebay sort it.The results being refunds plus expenses on all faulty items,Ebay are good they put the customer first.
The sellers know that if they are not honest they won't last long on Ebay.
I'm currently taking Porsche GB to court over their refusal to reimburse me for the damage caused after a suspension part failed in 2020. The part was already under investigation due to a fault in manufacturing when the car was built, it affected Caymans between 2013/14. They did a recall in 2021 but insist that the cost of the replacement I had fitted in 2020, labour and the damage caused when the part failed is my responsibility. The Consumer Protection Act says different, but they won't accept responsibility for 'work carried out outside of the dealership network'. The dealers were shut due to covid, but the part failing was the problem.
Chopper car vertical is expensive if your only buying junkers does it matter car prices will plummet back to normal prices within a few months ..people will be shocked then when they paid 4 or 5 k for a 2k motor it will happen
Had a 2002 td4 auto for ten years without a problem
I've also learnt the hard way that 'refurbished' is just another way of saying 'sub-standard part that'll fail immediately and the seller will piss you about and cost you a blooming fortune'. In hindsight, the cost of OE Manufacturers Parts don't seem so steep after all.
Look forward to seeing how your dispute pans out on a future episode of Can't Pay? We'll Take it Away.
You should be able to plug a manual oil gauge into the oil pressure sender, I'd deffo check that, if oil pressure is low then all the new turbos in the world aren't going to last. All most of these companies do is fit a new Chinese cartridge in the turbo, but tbh if you've got good lube they should be OK, 99% of ongoing turbo problems are lubrication related, a garage I knew fitted 4 until they noticed they'd kinked the oil feed, at the minimum I'd take off the oil feed, wrap it in a plastic bag and see how much oil comes out, should be loads.
Correct, bad oil feed is usually the cause for the initial failure.
@@paulpaintshop103 yes bud
That’s the problem sourcing parts yourself and getting a garage to fit. Much better let them get them for you, at least if there’s a fault it’s not your problem to sort. Not worth the aggro. Good video 😊
Honestly, most workshops won't fit 'customer sourced eBay bargain parts' for that reason.
Absolutely
Don’t you still have the second replacement turbo? - the one with the whooshing noise is presumably still in the car? or have you sent that back already? If you’ve still got it then you can use that as a trade-in?
Yes but I need the refund from them for that one
Stopped using eBay, too many scammers, been using them for 15years, but had 3 bad buys,not as described.
3 bad in 15 years. I think your out of touch with reality if that's all it took for you to stop using ebay
In my experience, if the turbo refurbishes are doggy. They will immediately try and transfer the case from your local court to there’s,in the hope you will not want to travel. If that is the case write to the court and explain you are the injured party. You are already out of pocket and want it transferred back!
Good luck.
I bought a Spark new and ran it for three years. It was the first car I had that never went back to the dealer for anything. I'd have bought another Chevy but they pulled out of the UK They also made a Spark EV which was absurdly quick.
Oh I look out for one of those
Pop your finger in the turbo bud and waggle the fins about if there's play, twice it may not be getting oil bud, I blow petrol and carb cleaner down the oil feed with the sump plug out and watch it flow thru, maybe start it up with the oil feed off and see if plenty of oil flows.
The trouble with all these car checks is that if an insurance company decides to repair an accident damaged car instead of writing it off then it doesn't appear on HPI or Car Vertical. It's just a matter of which is cheaper for the insurance company to do. I run a Cat D car. I've had it five years, done over 60,000 miles and its fine. It's fully serviced by the local specialist, and no its not for sale 😁
Trouble is will the rules not the checks. I think its outrageous one car can go on register for a dented wing and another be involved in a massive accident, be insurance repaired and never noted
Not sure about the logistics of changing the Dacia turbo but why new oil each time?
Incase of contamination, they also suggest changing the oil feed pipes aswel.
guy you need to make a video calling them out. if I was you I'd send them a link to this video. Once they realise you have quite a few followers you'll see their tone change
Chevy Spark, same car as the Daewoo Matiz found in many overseas markets, they’re everywhere.
Oh no…..a Freelander, just no, horrible things, never liked them, and an auto…..wow, that’s adding an extra layer of “will it won’t it” breakdown jeopardy……😳😳😳👍🇮🇲
That’s why I never use eBay for parts! It’s either main dealers or Euro Carparts for me! Cost a little bit more but worth it!!
Euro car parts doesn't deserve a recommendation
@@thatpeskyswan I’ve not had any problems, certainly better than fleabay
Last 3 occasions I've used ECP, I've been supplied incorrect parts. Staff at my local branch are clueless. Last time I had to take an order back, the only people in the branch were people complaining and returning items. Took me half an hour of queueing behind some very unhsppy people to get my refund. Hopeless.
There is no such thing as a free lunch! A properly reconditioned turbo for less than the cost of the parts and labour to carry out the work, simply isnt going to happen. Cowboys like these are becoming more and more common now, and while I can see members of the getting taken by them time and time again, it seems strange that someone in the trade would get had over so easily? They will have already been taken to court hundreds of times, and while after about a year, and a lot of expense, getting a judgement against them seems likely, there will be almost zero chance of getting it enforced.
any business that does,nt play fair with its costomers , these days...is nuts...ever heard of social media...bad news travels fast...even if its sorted later...the taste still lingers.... and so do the bad service...
Td4 auto FL1 HSE is a cracking buy only real issue was the viscous coupling and they are cheap to do.
CarVertical again. Not Chops woe. Mega channel. Truth of the trade. Maybe I’ve heard CV once too many times. I even even Cvv ticker crypto coin so know the company. I’ve had turbo noise each every way after 8000 cars. I refuse a small THP esque petrol turbo and any Turbo diesel. Strange as may be. Work on risk reduction strategy. We don’t need fill in turbo cars in the trade. Sell just easy mechanical cars. One of em. Jobs tough. It just is.
Just a quick queery on the turbos.Once they were fitted were they set up on boost correctly? If not they can blow by or even blow up if theres not adequate over pressure relief.Also when a turbo is rebuilt its needs balancing much like a wheel or propshaft.
Instead of re balming the drivers seat lend it out to a mechanic the greasy overalls should do the trick 😂😂
Those Sparks are basically Corsas.
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The moral of the story is.... Do not buy cheap shite from eBay
Did it show on car vertical if it was a driving school car
No I think it needs to have been bought as a business , if he bought it private like he did the new car at dealership don't think it will flag
@@ChopsGarage aha it might make a bit o interesting content for them and to show a vertical with it showing
Freelanders are terrible. I bet at least 1 of the electric windows don’t work including the rear tailgate and does it have its prop shaft too the diff still??
Ha, ha mate, I've had all those problems, sometimes in the same vehicle, most are missing props, so it's just a fwd rover basically,amazing if all windows work.
Can you name the company so we know to avoid?
thats a bearing whinning not a seal trumping
Good vid think about buying 1series bmw 2006 116I petrol never had one before worth a look or avoid lot of people said stay away what do you think
James I don't know the full story in relation to your TCE but people in France and abroad are taking legal action against Renault in relation to those engines. Might be worth Googling it
I don't know if this is correct but I think Business to Business rules are different from Consumer law! Hopefully you bought from your personal account? Good luck getting it all sorted. It is terrible when a companies product failed and you end up paying to get it sorted.
your right you haven't got a clue what your talking about. just sound stupid in fairness.
thankyou James,youve really got a good solid case,
and what with the garage that did all the work as proof its pretty well sorted,,👍👍
Find a genuine parts suppliers with good reviews, cutting corners ie: eBay cause it's cheap, it isn't good practice either you will be out of pocket or your good name may suffer with dodgy parts failing 👍
Sounds like like bearing? The thing the fins are on is shot. Mine sounded the same on previous car. They took the pipes off and could see soon as the fins are spinning it whines and get louder the faster it spins.
If its that twice it might not be getting oil
Ah ok cheers
@@ChopsGarage could be crap turbo tho bud, chocolate bearings.
wish you had brought a more expensive decent one rather than an ebay special, although im suprised the turbo has gone, its rare on those dacias, has it been serviced properally?
Shakin' that ass. In my head now 😂 always liked that shape Mégane 👍
That Turbo sounds a bit like my last Girlfriend! Don’t worry about the car being an ex-driving school car. The examiner will do a visual check of the exterior and the interior before the start of the test. There must be no warning lights on and all tyres and lights must be in good order. They can even refuse it if the car is particularly dirty or the screen wash is frozen. You could park a driving school car with 150k on the clock next to a new car and it would be difficult to tell the difference
Waste gate should have been pre set by the rebuilder, I've never had to mess about with it, fitting to good used one should be a tester, if all OK, they've definitely cocked it up, do a video and attach it to an e mail, I'd have thought refund was limited to just the item, but you never know.
so much crap parts on eBay ive had some many problem turbos from eBay
What. Dealers remove pedals. Buff roof. Never. We’re god like. We speak gospel truth. And give a tank fuel every sale.
If you bought though ebay can you get your money of them.
14 days is the minimum amount of time before issuing court proceedings. if you don't allow 14 days the judge can kick it out
What time do you call this! Has the world stopped turning? Have I been abducted by aliens through a time shift? No its DMT (Devon Mean Time)
Devon (bugger its raining and I don't want to do proper work) Time lol!
@@ChopsGarage down the Pub it is then with all the other motoring experts 🙄
This is the problem with eBay you get offered a warranty. But eBay dispute is 30days . I would speak to eBay about your issue. Because that can just take the money for you
When's the Landy Disco and the 2 Hyundai's arriving then?? We've heard so much about them but not actually seen them yet.
Hi James,nice quick bit of profit on the freelander for no effort,so I personally don't buy anything anymore from ebay because of the hassle if you have to send back or need refund but sounds like they need to be taught a lesson tbh,definitely the auto fabia will sell straight away when you get it back,hopefully you can sell the i20 before you need to advertise it,cheers james🤙👌👍
Hi J does car vert show you citroen was a driving school car
And the moral of the story dont buy a dacia dustbin
You got no chance for extra costs, they are only legally responsible for the replacement to be provided or a refund provided
Especially with used and refurbed parts, they only have to gaurentee and replace.
They would only be responsible if they were providing and fitting themselves
As someone that works with garages, this would be something you would obviously really know
If this was the case people could be putting in claims all day for anything and fraud would be rife
Install shit parts and make mad claims for everything to fix your shitbox
Actually many garage I work with have had consequential costs refund by parts suppliers. And no terms override standard right. Everything comes down to what a judge decides. Fraudulent claims are rife that's why evidence must to available to back up your claim. Its not my first rodeo ride.
HOW box gonnna be. Most important thing ??? NO NO NO NO … engines and boxes almost always outlast rest of poor old school JLR product early Freelander mechanicals. . The car will be a bag bolts but engine and gearbox hold up. I do like them. Tho.
same for the buyer do your checks , remember your buying from a business man ,nice at the point of sale ,my opinion only buy private.
Lol. Sure lol with no rights whatsoever. I think my videos are enough evidence Im nice after sale too.
@@ChopsGarage buy private,check mot and service history,cut out the middle man.
@@markmiller5577 lol! Oh I'd love to live in your world where a simple service history and MOT history check could determine if a car was ok! Serviced with a new advisory free mot, ace, so the dual mass flywheel will be fine eh, oh and it definitely can be burning oil, or overheating in traffic if the mot and the service are there lol!!
@@ChopsGarage 30 years of motoring,only bought 2 bad cars ,and they where from local dealers ...take your chance I say 20 good cars from private sellers.
@@markmiller5577 Id put money on when you say bad cars, they needed fixes but I bet you are not counting the fixes you needed to do to the private sales cars. Dealers are selling the same age cars ,chances are they can have same issues, difference is they are obliged to fix, private sellers are not
I'd be amazed James if you have any success claiming for consequential loss. In my experience the word "refurbished" has in recent years come to mean "wiped over with a damp cloth" if you're lucky!
5:24 gets you to the end of the car vertical ad
Tbf if you need this pointer rather than just fast forwarding you have bigger problems than ads 🤣
In my opinion only there is a moral to the turbo issue; don't cut costs/corners by using ebay... one of the worst the market places that shite is advertised!
If you look at the mileage check there isn’t a discrepancy because the mileage was taken in the same month
Hi Chops, good luck with the claim, any news or vids on the fabia you have or had in? Also wonder where the mysterious Yeti went.
Good luck with the small claims court. If they are as dodgy as the sound though you will probably win the action, they’ll just ignore it. Happened to my friend. Put his Suzuki Vitara 4x4 in for an engine rebuild, after months of being fobbed off by the rebuild company and of course not having his car took them to court, won no reaction further court action , no response. Finally sent in bailiffs and they came away empty handed because they said there was nothing of significant value in the workshop. So he has lost the car and is heavily out of pocket on court costs. That’s the problem - these courts have no real teeth if the person being sued ignores it all then there’s nothing you can do. Ok they have a judgement against them but they probably have hundreds already!!
Still wish you luck mate. I reckon the low mileage used one should be a good fix though. Probably better than a rebuild from an unknown company.
Court Bailiffs are rubbish, you need to escalate to High Court
Sold you a dyson.