I am so glad I stumbled across this !!! I have been baffled by this riddle for about 30 years. This scholar has finally untangled the many misunderstandings. The east gate line up nails it for me.
Just watched you on Janie Duvall. I think you are right. I have been researching like you. I am also a code researcher and a Messianic. I told people in 2020 I felt we were in first have of trib. I think we are entering second half. I know that rapture was found in the code in the book of Ruth, Shilhuv Natzal Ha Mashiach. Lifted up or snatched up by the Messiah. Yeshua said has his hand been shortened that can not save? He is the first promise keeper, he will keep his promise. You mentioned the Tshirt I have with the words and the box printed on it. I have had it for years. Shalom Christian.
I am certain now..100% proof of the temple location. Big thank you to Dr. Christian Widener. My heart is glad...Heavenly Father in total control..from the beginning to end and end to beginning!!!
When I first became a believer in Aug. 1968, I lamented the fact that I was not living in Biblical times... how wrong I was. A few years ago I had the privilege to stand at the foot of the Golden gate. During one of the Israeli wars, a plan was hatched to blow a hole in the walled-up gate in order to catch the enemy off guard. A rabbi nixed the plan because of OT prophecies. What ignited or sparked your interest in such research and what sustained you throughout all those years? Well done, it touched my soul.
Thank you Manfred! It all started with reading Bible prophecy. However, I don't know why, but I would say that God just let me see that something wasn't right about what archaeologists were saying about the gate, particularly when I was led to read Ezekiel 44:1-2 and connected the Golden Gate to the gate that Jesus had entered. I found the testimonies of pilgrims identifying it as the Palm Sunday gate in a well-known book on Jerusalem by J.E. Peters. Those ideas just stuck like a pebble in my shoe. Over the years, I just kept reading and collecting reference materials on the temple location, but it wasn't until April 2019 that I felt the Lord giving me the go ahead to write the book. I know I'm not the best person who could have written it, but I also just know its right. Plus, I'm used to being told something won't work, but proving it will anyway. :) But all by God's grace. And you're right, we are definitely living in biblical times. Maranatha!
@@EndTimesBerean Great testimony, thanks for sharing. May God bless you for all the behind-the-scenes work you put in... AWANA Approved Workmen Are Not Ashamed
@@manfredseidler1531 Thank you, Manfred. May God bless you as well! Also, thanks for the link to Dr. James Tour. I can't claim to have had as illustrious a career as he as had, but I definitely spent my time in the R&D space and respect what he had to say very much. :)
@@EndTimesBerean I must correct you! - You are the best person to have researched and written this. You are so credible and you explain it so well all the way. Finally I believe this is the answer to this puzzle. This is going to keep growing and growing and others will be taking this up and verifying what you have shown to be so logical and well researched. I am sure of it. Do not worry about anything. Your research is going to ripple across not only Christianity but I will say Judaism and Jewish Messianic believers will take this up as well as Archaeologists. In fact I will try to point them towards your research in my own little way. Truth seeking Archaeologists especially Christians will have to address this very soon !!! God bless you. I am going to devour your other information. I am so excited !!! You have done a terrific work here. Keep it coming. Pastor from New Zealand.
Yes it matters. All the facts do. I study the Temple Mount and before going, studied the Bible as you did. I’ve never heard anyone say what I believed where the temple was until you. I prayed as I looked and studied the Temple Mount. As I said before in the comments on your last video. Thank you for verifying what I believe!!
Great job Christian - well done - logical and systematic. Looking forward to whatever you bring forth in the days ahead. Blessing to you and your dear wife and family. Maranatha!
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It seems that the misdirection to the true location of the temple as well as Mt. Sinai was willed by the Lord in order to preserve them undefiled until the end times. Well done Christian!
Well this was so worth watching I watched it three times so far just to safe guard it to memory. Everything is so compelling and you've done a wonderful job linking so much history to everything you say. I thought about you when we were hearing about the Abraham Accords wondering if you would literally be proven right very soon! Sincere blessings to you and yours!
My goodness this was good!! 🙌🏻 Not only is the presented information SO compelling and exciting, but this video is also SO professional and well done-I really enjoyed the beautiful visuals you brought in, and the music, which perfectly compliments the subject. You, and whoever else may have worked on this, did an EXCELLENT job!! This is one I want to watch again! Actually, I think they ALL are! 😆 As always, THANK YOU!!! God bless you and your family, Christian! 🙏🏻
TH-cam recommended your interview with Janie Duvall, and then I went to your website and found this video. I appreciate how you clearly presented the information, and (as you say) in a way that anyone can follow the evidence and verify your conclusions. I believe that your conclusions are correct, and I hope for the Jewish people that the prophecy about rebuilding the temple might be fulfilled in the not too distant future.
Thank you so much, Christian, for alerting me to this 2nd video. I read your book which I found very interesting indeed and totally convincing. This new video complements the book really well and explains things I hadn't quite grasped from reading the book. [I happened to notice a tiny typo at 22:32 in this video where the final word is "boudary" instead of "boundary" - sorry, but as a professional proof reader I can't help spotting tiny typos like this now and then!]
I challenge each and every one of you! If you can find just 2 Witnesses in the Bible of 7 Years of Tribulation! Without out using Daniel 9:27! 2 Corinthians 13:1 “In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.”
Wonderful discovery, God bless you. This discovery has helped me a lot in my studies, I hope this new video also has a translation into Portuguese. One very interesting thing is that below the current Golden Gate there is an even older gate that was buried. God bless you, thank you.
Awesome presentation of the evidence. The Lord will enter through the Golden Gate. Thank you for providing this information in such clear manner. God bless you!
The Dome of the rock is located outside the walls of the original inner courtyard of the Temple, namely the courtyard of the gentiles. That is why the scripture reads a wall will be built between the Holy Temple and this other place “ not measured “ because it is given too the gentiles . So yes the Dome of the spirits is where the Ark of the Covenant stood.
Thanks for watching, Raul! I agree that the current conditions of recognizing the northern location, which would place the temple right next to the Dome of the Rock, matches very well with the description in Rev 11:2. Blessings!
I have enjoyed both videos. I am a Pastor and I see your discovery. I have placed some videos on the Signs of the Times under my TH-cam channel S. David Douglas. I see the Dome of the Spirit as the Holy of Holies and how it lines up with the Golden Gate and the Red Heifer sacrifice location on the Mount of Olives. You have done a great job.
good morning chriatian, coming back to you, thank you for your contact, it came as a surprise to me. you have answered a lingering thought for me. a friend visited the temple mount approx. 25yrs ago and she took a photo of the arch under the golden gate and as she told us- she was told by the tour guide that the arch was part of the original golden gate. the lady came back got involved with the local jewish community and converted and studied and became a rabbi. but i have often wondered about the arch as i l have not communed with her since that time. i will have to order your book and follow up on my reading. i have a original book by dr. edersheim , the temple, . it is one of my valued possessions. once again 'thank you for putting a question to sleep. roy
Ok you got me, I FIND ALL OF YOUR ARGUMENTS both Logical and Biblical. And you findings of the evidence of the Melchezedick temple in the City of David is compelling..
@@EndTimesBerean yes. I think there will be an agreement at the time for it. Some opposition like when Nehemiah rebuilt it the first time. When the right time has come. Edit: I have corrected my first comment. “I might be” is now “It might be”.
@@EndTimesBerean - The final years approach now, with all the spiritual darkness increasing. I'm thankful the Lord has opened my eyes to this. That is my blessing. I'm doing what I can to wake up others. Blessings to you also.
I came across one comment when reading about the bar kochba war in 135AD. It was said that Hadrian had "plowed" the Temple Mount, they related that this meant that Mount Moriah was lowered so that its peak would be lower than the mount of olives, etc. This was to show the Jewish Rabbis that Moriah would never be higher than the other peaks again and therefore the Temple could not be placed there. Very interesting...
Hi Brian. I would say that there is a big difference between the general sense of plowing, as in leveling or destroying all structures on the Temple Mount, and literally cutting off the top of a mountain that was already well below the top of the Mount of Olives, whose current elevation is 826 m above sea level. Since the Temple Mount is currently so much lower and only about 742 m, that idea doesn't seem credible to me.
Good job I agree with you ... I want to use your reserch to explain my believer people in india . Because many of them they can't read and Wright. They can't understand english , they only understand hindi and native language . God bless you . God give this man great health and power .to complet here godly work..... Sir some of my people are cant use celfone internet because literate... But I want to give your reserch ....
Congratulations! That’s was very well-done. You addressed and easily refuted all of the theories others mistakenly put forward. Your children are lucky to have such a man as their father. I can’t detract from this, at all. I would only add that Jewish sources also locate the Tomb of the Hasmonean Jewish King, John Hyrcanus, where Jesus was executed next to and is now the site of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, as being aligned with both the Temple and the Eastern Golden (Mercy) Gate that the messiah is supposed to enter through.
I take that as high praise indeed, and I am humbled that you would say so. I sincerely hope that the truth comes to light, and I will be delighted if I have been able to play any part in that at all.
Dr. Widener, I really enjoyed this presentation. It was very though provoking and was well laid out. Inquisitive as I am, I wonder, have you done any research into the types of stones on eastern wall of the Temple Mount? I have seen some research that points to a "transition" of stone types just north of the Eastern Gate. There is also another one farther to the north as far as I can remember. How do these fit into the discussion, and what does the evidence suggest for the northern part of the Temple Mount wall and the northern enclosure that you propose? Thanks, Brian
Hi Brian, I have posted some comments which I think the author hasn't given a thought. He looks more biased towards his theory than looking at things objectively from a neutral standpoint. You will see how I have invalidated his model.
@@whatzit9459 Antonia to the north, where it is usually placed, is higher than where the temple would have stood. Moriah slopes ever higher as you move north. The Temple Mount sits on one high point, but the mountain still gets taller to the north. The presence of stairs down to the temple from the fortress makes sense. The temple itself stood higher than the rest of the platform. Thus, it is only natural that there would be steps descending to the platform from a higher, northern position.
Hi Brian! Thank you very much! I am working on that as we speak. I believe, contrary to all current academic thought, that the entire area, now called the Temple Mount, was established by King Solomon, and that all of the fine and rough ashlar stones, that are of similar craftsmanship, even though there are variations in the style of their faces, are of his time, not Herod's, despite Herod being generally credited with them. But I think he actually just built it up from where Solomon had left it, or where it had been destroyed down to by the Babylonians, etc. There is also a much cruder style of ashlar that resembles the "Herodian style" but is clearly newer, and there are many fine ashlars that are clearly of Roman style, which in truth should mostly describe the stones used from the Herodian period all the way into the Byzantine period. The Crusader era modifications and the work of Suleiman I are probably the easiest to identify and separate out. Much of what I think is called Umayyad, isn't, but all that will have to be vigorously defended in the book. The features you asked your question about in the eastern wall I have examined up close, and they do make it a problem to explain as being all attributed to a single builder, like Solomon. Fortunately, I think there are some good explanations that have perhaps not been considered before. Unfortunately, I'm not done yet. I hope to finish everything still this year, if God allows. However, no matter what, some things will remain mysteries because not everything can be proven one way or the other, and we have to rely on developing plausible explanations in order to support a certain point of view on difficult questions. So I will take the same approach of trying to defend the idea beyond what I consider to be a reasonable doubt. ;)
The Temple fits the foundation. Clouds hold rain to water the earth. Our mouth is over the stomach. What goes up must come down. The Foundation supports the Temple. The Old and the New.
@@EndTimesBerean I have just ordered your book and passing on link to your videos. Where in SD are you based? I've been twice to USA, both times to SD, Midland, Pierre, Phillip, and Rapid city, as well as Black Hills of course.
Thank you for this video. Your research is to me unquestionable. What really seems to solidify this location is that the dome of the rock would not be disturbed in the Third Temple construction, thus keeping peace to build it.
Most Muslims see the entire compound, and indeed the city of Jerusalem and the land of Israel as Islamic property. They definitely won’t think that building any Jewish structure anywhere on the Mount is acceptable.
that was great, persuasive, and dovetails with all other research. Footnote: it is July 2024 where do we stand, what would, could you update, comment in Summer 2024 ?? I also think this is the best poss location, aligned with the gate. This video presentation concluded with the suggestion that the Temple can be rebuilt and Not require the destruction of the Dome and Mosque that is there now. Great collection of videos on end times. thanks for sharing your research via video on utube, source of info for so many.
Jewish sources mark the site of the Sepulcher as the tomb of the Hasmonean Jewish King John Hyrcanus, which was aligned with the Temple and the Eastern Gate. Jesus was executed outside of it, at Golgotha, as you wrote. After the destruction of Jerusalem, that site was first a pagan shrine and then later built into the Sepulchre by Helena.
@elisheva Weberman You’re not saying anything. We’re discussing which piece of bedrock on the raised platform where the Temple stood was the specific site of the Temple. There isn’t consensus among Jews about where exactly it stood, which is often discussed when explaining why we don’t ascend to the Temple Mount. Moreover, several prominent models of the Temple on display in Jewish institutions in Jerusalem depict the Sanctuary as aligned with both the Eastern Gate and the Tomb of John Hyrcanus, which is now the site of the Sepulchre. You’re not familiar with any details and are just clucking like a flustered hen. You’re not defending Jews. This theory isn’t an attack on Jews.
This really helps me understand what I first heard you mention in the interview with Ms. Duval, an excellent introduction to your thorough research. Have to admit the Gihon spring issue was a big stumbling block as well as the encampment of the Roman "legions" on the Temple Mount, that Mr. Klein says is Josephus' mistranslated word to "cohort" which is still puzzling to me.. as is the "evil king Simon" leveling the entire Zion Mount / Citadel of David location to bedrock, filling in the valley with the debris. Also the threshing floor under the Dome of Spirits does seem too small to be that, except with a symbolic purpose.. though where else could the new Temple be rebuilt that would make sense than in line with the Golden Gate, perhaps reentered by the Messiah like Jesus appeared to enter through the wall to see the disciples after resurrection when Thomas was able to put his hand into His pierced side for proof.. and the water appearing at the threshold of the new Temple could come from "metaphysical engineering" (similar to Gihon spring) as the earthquake that splits the Mount of Olives upon the arrival of the Messiah. To rebuild the Temple there, would require another Israeli victory to regain equal sharing of the Temple Mount, don't you think? The last time they won a war against all their Muslim neighbors didn't they concede control of the Temple Mount to the Muslims because of the Dome of the Rock? This idea appears to harbinger another victory in what seems to be shaping up as an all out war with the attackers bent on the destruction of the Jewish State, and the coming temporary false peace outcome. Do you think I am comprehending these issues effectively? I am saying too much here, pardon me & thank you for your wonderful work!
Thank you very much. I think you have a good grasp of the issues now. The threshing floor under the Dome of the Spirits was also almost certainly larger originally, but having the temple toppled two times on top of it probably did damage that would have been chipped away to make the present day platform that the Dome of the Rock is sitting on, leaving only the most undamaged portion as the reference point for building the platform. About building another temple though, I discuss my latest thoughts in this video: th-cam.com/video/VSVcMtE1WYc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1jj4Z67Mjy3plwtQ
Your proposed location is the south location. I think the Temple's original placement is north of the Dome because the centuries old Jewish cemetery is on that side and the real eastern gate is probably there, but concealed. The Jews want to resurrect and then conveniently walk through the gate and into the Temple.What are the arguments that the north location would be incorrect?
I will be honored for you to read it, and will welcome your feedback. I value your support and respect your candor and views, even when you don't agree with me on all issues. Thank you!
I have a couple of questions about the offering of sacrifices in the temple. First, if we are already in the Tribulation period, would it not be too late to construct it and begin offering sacrifices? And how would the people know that God is the Lord when Israel offers sacrifices since Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice?
Those are good questions, and they largely arise from the way we have assumed that things must take place during the tribulation; however, if things happen differently than we have supposed, as I think they are, then they are easier to resolve than one might suppose. First, this would simply mean that we don't really need a temple to be rebuilt because actually what is currently present as the Temple Mount is sufficient. I have a video discussing that point here starting at 47:21 : th-cam.com/video/yfYVsFzN6nE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_IfjPI1i1DgzCAo8 Then to the second point, we often think of sacrifices as only being for the atonement of sin, but that just isn't the case. If we called the sacrifices offerings, we would understand that better. So there are many reasons to make offerings to God (sacrifices), which are enumerated throughout the book of Leviticus. Let's just take one, though, the Passover sacrifice, it was a commandment of God to do it in remembrance of the Exodus, just like Christians are commanded to take communion in the NT. Plus, we make an offering of praise to God or an offering of our finances as a tithe, or an offering of our time in service, etc. Then lastly, how would that help people to know that God is the Lord? It's by seeing prophecy fulfilled, whenever that happens. I hope that helps.
Question? I’ve been talking with a Rabbi in Israel who is totally convinced that the holy of holies is under the dome of the rock. I pointed him to your video and book, we’ll see if he follows up. Do you know if any of the Temple institute leaders agree with your analysis which I totally believe is correct. Thanks!
Thank you for that affirmation! I think many rabbis are still convinced about the Dome of the Rock location, but reportedly there are others, including some in the Sanhedrin who believe the northern location, proposed most notably by Asher Kaufman and just supported by me, is the true and correct location. The northern location makes sense for a House of Prayer on many levels, so it is definitely in the running for consideration. Thank you for helping to spread the word! Blessings!
Someone else noted that the measurements of indentions for the feet of the Ark of the covenant and location of lamp stands in the Holy of Holies would insert well there.
Or it could be natural indentations or things that were cut out in the time of the Crusaders, or literally anything else, besides that. And the whole reason there would need to be cut outs is because it isn't flat, which is itself a disqualifying feature for a threshing floor. I hope that makes sense. :)
Have you heard the theory that the Temple Mount is not from the Second Temple, but the Third, supposedly built by Shimon bar Kochba? I know it’s not accepted. But supposedly the dimensions fit Ezekiel’s dimensions. Historians agree that Bar Kochba didn’t capture Jerusalem or build a Third Temple. But Jewish sources claimed he did, and maintained sacrifices there for three years. He certainly minted coins claiming to do so, which would be the only coins ever minted for an event that never occurred.
I don't see how that would have worked. They didn't have very many resources at that point and were severely oppressed. It is very possible that they attempted to set up or did set up at least a tabernacle or something, but there is no way they could have built the Temple Mount, which in volume is actually larger than the Great Pyramid at Giza. I honestly believe that Solomon built the entire Temple Mount complex. It was probably increased in height by Herod, as evidenced by the upper layer of large Roman style plain cut fine ashlars, which you see on top of the fine dressed ashlars, but I haven't finished my case for that yet. I think it's going to be a very strong argument, but it will take some time to finish the proof for it. You'll probably appreciate the reason I think it happened, though. In the nineteenth century you had the enlightenment and strong antisemitism. Intellectuals began developing their origins of science of reason and quickly settled on attributing all of modern reason and science to the Greeks (with begrudging acknowledgments to the Egyptians), followed by the Romans, etc. Modern archaeology was at that time still in its infancy. However, as the higher critics began getting involved they started questioning how Jewish builders centuries before the Greeks could have built something like the Temple Mount, especially since it included things like arches, etc., which they determined hadn't been invented yet. At that point to admit Solomonic origins for the Temple Mount would have meant owing the beginnings of the development of much of what was considered Western Civilization to the Jews, which in that anti-semitic climate was undoubtedly anathema, and so attribution was given instead in favor of Herod the Great. Anyway, that's me sharing my raw hypothesis and reasoning, which may or not seem remotely plausible to you, but like I said, it's a work in progress. ;)
@@EndTimesBerean I totally agree that Bar Kochba couldn’t have built the Temple Mount. But the Ezekiel dimensions allows for that area to fit the Third Temple. And I own several coins minted by Bar Kochba, which does indicate a level of independence. I’m familiar with the false notion that Romans invented the arch, which they definitely learned from Jewish masons who were in Rome for at least two centuries before Rome destroyed the Temple. Rome was a young kingdom, when Judea reached out for their protection. Rome respected the ancient wisdom of the Jews. Much of what became Roman, and therefore Western, was adopted from Jews. Jews built the greatest structure in Rome, the Colosseum, which was also paid for with part of the Temple Treasury of Jerusalem. I like your theory that Solomon’s Temple foundations are the foundations of what we call the second Temple, but I just don’t know enough. I had only ever heard that the Roman era Herod built it in the Roman style. If Solomon built the Western Wall, assuming that’s what you’re claiming, then wouldn’t he also be the builder of the Tomb of the Patriarchs or other structures attributed to Rome and Herod? Or are the stones you’re referring to like the gates of Megiddo, which are likely from Solomon’s time or shortly after?
@@Qu4ttroStudio You have some of the revolt coins! That's awesome. What a piece of history! I think they would have still had access to temple images, so they certainly could have used them on the coins without having rebuilt a temple, but if they did, Hadrian of course destroyed it along with the rest of Jerusalem a few years later. About Ezekiel, the 500-cubit square he describes fits within the Temple Mount. Is that what you are referring to? Or something else? And yes, that means that Solomon built the Tomb of the Patriarchs, and that gives us the best representation of his work, since it was never destroyed like Jerusalem. Of course, there were later modifications made to the structure, and those need to be accounted for, but clearly it is of the same era as the Temple Mount. Solomon had 150,000 men cutting and hauling stone for 20 years just building the Temple, Temple Mount, and his palaces, etc. No one else in history had that kind of manpower. Josephus says that Herod had 10,000 men (aided by 1,000 priests) working on enhancing the temple and its buildings for eight years. Even allowing that work continued in a lesser capacity for decades, Herod didn't have the necessary manpower for the whole Temple Mount and its giant 200-500 ton ashlar stones and cornerstones, but Solomon did. Now, that's not saying that Herod didn't build anything. He did. A ton of stuff, but if you look closely at the construction of the Herodion, Caesarea by the Sea, Masada, etc., but he used typical Roman style building techniques and decorated it with plaster. That doesn't seem to fit with him being the builder of the Temple Mount. As for Megiddo, Hazor, & Gezer, those were fortified cities. So just because Solomon didn't use really fine expensive ashlars in those cities, doesn't mean that they were built by the same person. Since rough cut stone is faster and cheaper than the really fine ashlars, its not unreasonable to assume that he saved time and money where it wasn't necessary. Also, you can imagine that the finest craftsmen worked in Jerusalem, and that lesser skilled people were deployed elsewhere. Surely, not everyone of the 80,000 stone cutters where so skilled to form stone to the beauty and precision required for the Temple and Solomon's palaces. Therefore, incidences of both higher and lower quality stone should be expected even during the same era when built by the same person over so great a diversity of projects. That's the idea, anyway. I'm not aware that anyone else is seriously trying to make that case. Although, I expect quite a few people have wondered about it. Especially after they dug the Western Wall tunnels and found out how far down and how large the lower foundation stones really are.
@@EndTimesBerean Yes, I was referring to the idea that the Third Temple could be fit inside the current area of the Temple Mount. My Bar Kochba coins include two with the Temple image, but others with more basic symbols. He probably did erect a tabernacle and not a Temple, but depicted it as the Temple on his coins. I also have about 20 Achaemenid Yehud coins, which are so tiny and unrefined that I can’t believe anyone ever considered that money. But it’s apparently the first set of coins minted for Judea. They are imitations of Athenian obels, only smaller and cruder. They depict the Owl associated by Greeks with Athena. That’s what I was suggesting about the three fortress cities of Solomon, that they seem large enough to prove that Solomon could indeed have built such structures as the Temple Mount. Your point is very logical, that he’d put more decoration into the Temple than a city gate outside of his capital. I’d always wondered why there was no ruins from Solomon. But it’s possible they’re right in front of us. It makes a lot of sense, now, after you pointing out the manpower involved. The Babylonians, like the Romans, only needed to destroy the actual Sanctuary, not to bother deconstructing retaining walls of an acropolis. I’ve been in Zedekiah’s tunnels, too, which seem like a good place to quarry fine limestone. And not far from the Last Supper Room, on the Southern slope of Mount Zion, next to the Christian cemetery on the other sided the road, is a quarry. There’s a third, just a few minute walk from there, in East Jerusalem. Are there clues at quarries, as to when they were used and by whom?
@@johnnytangent2849 I'm working on a book for that, actually--Finding Solomon, but the aqueduct comes from the area known today by the name Solomon's Pools. I believe they really go back to that time, and so did most of the early explorers of Jerusalem. Modern archaeologists would probably disagree, but many of them think of Solomon as more of a King Arthur legend than a real person who did the things the Bible says he did.
So I'm not misreading it, I'm interpreting it in a way that you don't agree with. I'm reading it as a prophecy with a partial earlier fulfillment in very much the same way that Jesus read the first verse and half of Isaiah 61 and then said that this day he had fulfilled it, even though the rest of the chapter was still speaking about a future day, as recorded in Luke 4:14-30. You may not believe this is a fulfillment, but in the book I go over a lot more information and explain even further why I believe that it is. Remember, I just can't fit everything into the video. Blessings!
If a transit line was shot from the center of the Dome of the Spirits through and beyond the center of the Eastern Gate, then I would presume additional evidence could be found on such line, up on the Mount of Olives. Has this been done? Very good research, Christian.
Thank you very much! That would basically be the hill behind and above the Church of Gethsemane, but I don't think any big excavations have been done there. Mostly, that would be for the Red Heifer, if they want to burn it in the same place they did in days of the second temple, but since the temple isn't operating right now, I think they could actually do the sacrifice anywhere "outside the camp," but that's a dilemma for the current rabbis to work out.
I think he got a lot of things right, but I never got to meet him. I'm not so sure about the ark of the covenant report or the crucifixion spot that he talked about. I think his accounts sounded compelling, but they are hard to verify. I have been myself to the location of Mt. Sinai that he identified in Saudi Arabia, though, and I think that place is certainly very credible.
SEEMS THE FOUNDATION STONE VERY IMPORTANT..WHICH APPEARS TO HAVE A SPOT WHERE THE ARK OF THE SAT..SOUNDS VERY IMPORTANT AND RELEVANT..80 YEAR OLD FROM THE TOPS OF THE MOUNTAINS ISAIAH 2
That is on the al-Sahkra stone under the Dome of the Rock, which is not flat, and it was initially reported as a match, but it actually only matches one dimension of the ark. Furthermore, the ark was made to just set on the ground, which they did for nearly 500 years before building the temple, and there is no mention of ever cutting out an area or indentation for the ark.
Thank you for watching and commenting, Azul! I'm glad that you liked the video. I'm really hoping that people will watch this video and understand exactly how we can all be sure of the temple's former location. May God bless you!
thank you once again for the extended Video, but I have a Question, is Revelation 11 : 1-2 has anything to do with the subject ? it shows exactly that the new temple can rebuild with no harm to the adjacent Islamic buildings, IMO, thank you "I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. 2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months."
Thank you for watching and asking a question! Yes, I fully agree that the northern location completely satisfies the description of Rev. 11:1-2. I didn't make a point of that in the video because the other locations could also be loosely interpreted to fit that description, but none as well as the northern location. May God bless you for your diligence in watching for his return!
Have you heard the story about Justin the apostate how he gave the Jews all the resources they needed to rebuild the temple but when they tried it was no stone left on stone and numerous fires and supernatural events stopped them in their tracks after 3 years of efforts. So fire and ash should be an indicator in the soil levels.
There is indeed such a report, but it has some fanciful sounding embellishments, so it is difficult to know how serious to take it, except that there was indeed a failed attempt in 363 AD to rebuild it under Emperor Julian, who died in the midst of the effort that same year.
My hope doesn't rest in the exact location for the temple, so I won't die on that hill. I do wonder if the wailing wall was part of those stones that would not remain, one upon another. If so , why are they still there?
Hi Steve, I believe that Jesus was talking about the 500-cubit temple square and it's associated buildings, which was found inside of the Temple Mount rectangular plaza, of which absolutely nothing remains. Without being actually present with Jesus when he said his words, either way we are left to infer exactly what he meant. Based on fact that he was standing on the Temple Mount looking at the temple buildings when he said this, I think it is reasonable to assume he was only talking about the 500-cubit temple area itself, which in those days was marked with a sign that forbid entrance to all foreigners (upon pain of death), but they could still enter the Temple Mount and stand in the outer court. I hope that helps. Blessings!
The Western Wall is a retaining wall built to level out and expand Mount Moriah. It’s not part of the Sanctuary, which is what was being described as not having one stone remaining. And that’s true.
Thanks for watching and asking a question, Rachel! I agree that a reading of Luke 23:45 certainly leaves open the understanding that the curtain of the temple was not only torn at the same time as the other events witnessed by the people at the crucifixion site, but it, too, was seen by them. We really don't know where the crucifixion site was, though. There are many different theories, but none of them have solid archaeological proof. There is a hill just outside the eastern wall of the Temple Mount, between the Golden Gate and the Lions Gate that is currently a Muslim cemetery. It is close to the Jericho road exit from Jerusalem and therefore it would fit the scriptural and historical requirements for the site of the crucifixion; however, since it is a cemetery, it would be very difficult to get any archaeological proof at the location. For one, digging would not be allowed, and for another, digging for graves has already occurred, which may have already destroyed or at least obfuscated any evidence that would have been there. But based on what I've seen of the site up close, it looks to be a viable candidate to me. I also think that the location I am supporting fits Revelation 11:1-2, but as for who will commit the final Abomination of Desolation, that remains to be seen...
Ok i just had a random thought 2 min into this vid. The "prophecies" about the 3rd temple never say what size or how the temple is built right? So what if a kid with legos or tinker toys goes in and "builds" the 3rd temple on the spots listed in this video? Doom! heh heh vague prophecy fails to be specific and is triggered by a kids toy.
A full temple will be rebuilt in the Millennium. I think scriptures imply that there will also be a temple rebuilt before the tribulation. Certainly the sacrifices must be reinstated, based on scripture. However, since the entire Temple Mount is still standing, it is possible that the scriptures could be fulfilled by the Antichrist simply holding a press conference on the Temple Mount and declaring himself to be God. What I do claim, however, is that sufficient evidence exists to prove that the former location of the temple was in the northern location in front of the Golden Gate.
@@EndTimesBerean Ah, but what if. Do the red heffer prophecy and the other things needed to sanctify the temple. Size might not be as tiny as a toy, but might not be full scale either. Flash mob could show up with a prefab build and assemble. Then fortify it as a permanent structure and before the military shows up or a horde of angry locals show you have a sizeable temple reconstructed. Air lift in the heffer and by pass the check point for visitors and you could have a temple up and build in 2-3 hours? One large Russian cargo chopper could place enough material in one load to the site you mention and the calf and a follow up chopper could bring in 1 of each of the 13 tribes and relics. Temple built and sanctified in one day. Just not to scale. Maybe use preformed concrete walls to resist the mob afterword?
@@SteelWolf13 I totally agree that the prophecies can be potentially literally fulfilled in a way that may be hard to imagine, but when it does happen, we should be able to compare the two and make a sound judgment about whether or not an event reasonably fits the description in scripture. Any proposed fulfillment also has to fit into the broader context of revealed prophetic events. So if that happened, without a peace treaty in place, without the birth pangs of Matthew 24, or signs of the Seals of Revelation, etc., then designating the event as the ultimate fulfillment of the Abomination of Desolation would be premature. Anyway, that would be my approach. I appreciate you watching my videos and considering the evidence that I've presented. May God bless you!
To the Jew first! The Lord bless you and keep you; the Lord make his face shine on you and be gracious to you; the Lord turn his face toward you and give you peace. Shalom! :)
It's not so far, and the pool of Siloam and the pilgrims road walkway up to the southern steps of the Temple Mount now reveals that this is exactly what the Jews did when the temple was in operation. They had hundreds of thousands of visitors, perhaps more than a million during the times of festivals, and would have had orderly and systematic ways of making their way through the washing and ascension process. There were also small mikvahs at the foot of the stairs on the southern end of the Temple Mount for times that were less busy, or for just the priests, which were closer by, etc.
@@EndTimesBerean good to know. I just discovered your work today. I can not thank you enough for taking a second look at prophecy. I am no scholar but my take has been that the math wasn't mathing from official narratives. I find most to be lazy repetition from religion experts. The LOVE OF TRUTH imo is the only thing driving a rejection of mans take on end times, may the Lord direct all our paths.
Do you think that God really wants the temple rebuilt? Isn't Jesus our Temple and are we not His temple? Just curious and wondering if we are reading it wrong?
I'm quite sure that there will be a temple rebuilt in the Millennium, or Christ's thousand year reign on the earth, which I believe is coming very soon. Certainly, spiritually, we are also already being built into God's temple, but that process is not yet complete. And the spiritual does not contradict the physical. Both often exist at the same time. As far as the present, however, I am not sure if a temple or tabernacle will actually be rebuilt, or if the prophesied events will just take place on the current Temple Mount. My latest thoughts on that are shared here: th-cam.com/video/VSVcMtE1WYc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2oBhEo3iVXDw-x4t
@@EndTimesBerean Thank you so much for answering my question. Also, are you familiar with this Jewish phrase? "Here now but not yet." I think it means that a type of something, whatever it may be, is here but it is not in its fullness yet. Thanks and God bless.
It is very evident that you are closing your eyes to what is plainly visible before our eyes. If the Temple was located to the dome of the spirits, why would someone (Solomon and Herod) would take trouble to build huge arches near the southern walls of the present day Temple Mount? Even today these arches are standing as a witness that it held something above. Is it not because the Temple was located on the south, that these kings needed more flat surface to have a flat Temple compound? We also have the southern steps which led up to the Temple seen today. Coming to the threshing floor, the present day Temple Mount floor is about 30 feet higher than it was during Jesus days. So digging near Al Aqsa mosque to some 30 feet will reveal the threshing floor that you are searching. Your entire theory goes by what you see now with your own eyes. Yet you deliberately choose to ignore these arches and the southern steps simply because you want to place the Temple on the dome of the spirits. About the eastern gate: Truth is that the golden gate is the eastern gate to the city of Jerusalem and not the eastern gate of the Temple. The Eastern gate of the Temple was located much south and close to the 3 arches seen on the southern wall. If you think golden gate is the eastern gate of the Temple, then it displaces lot of other archaeological evidences. For example the discovery of the Trumpeting stone which was the south western corner of the Temple, was found near Robinson's arch. This marks the south western corner of the Temple which also aligns well with the southern steps and also provides a right explanation of the arches and Solomon's stables which were built to hold the platform. Only this southern theory will give you the possibility of having a deep slope near the south eastern corner of the Temple. It is told that Satan took Jesus to the tower on the south eastern corner of the Temple and asked him to jump down. Josephus proves that the south eastern tower was very high because of the steep slope under it. All of this must be trashed if you say golden gate was the eastern gate of the Temple.
That didn’t make any sense to me. The arches were supporting the large courtyard, between the portico and the sanctuary, where the majority of pilgrims were entering from, as you wrote, from the Southern Triple Gate. The bedrock on the platform is attached to the earth. So, it could not have been lower than it is now. It could’ve only been higher, since you can cut bedrock away but not add to it.
Hi Susan, thank you for watching and commenting. Just for clarity, I assume you are referring to the events listed in Luke 23:44-46, and then the statement in verse 47 that "The centurion, seeing what had happened, praised God and said, 'Surely this was a righteous man.'” So here's the big question. Can we undeniably assume that Golgotha was east of the temple based on this passage? Personally, I would like to say yes, but I'm not sure that can be 100% defended. It is conceivable that the note about the curtain being torn in two is anecdotal because it occurred at the same time (about noon), but that this particular event was not truly visible, only the darkness, the diminishing of the sun, and the utterance of Jesus' statement were fully observed by the Centurion. However, I do think it is more likely the comment about the curtain is included because the Centurion and others present did see it. I'm also guessing that the reason you are asking this question is that you believe that the City of David location has a better chance of presenting a Golgotha location directly east of it than the northern location I am presenting in the video. Regardless of why your asking, however, I don't know of any potential eastern Golgotha sites that have been thoroughly investigated for any archaeological evidence of past crucifixions. Consequently, we are forced to speculate about possible eastern sites, which can't really be used as evidence, either for or against a temple location view. That being said, I believe there is a possible Golgotha site that few people have seriously considered which is immediately outside the eastern wall of the Temple Mount in between the Lions Gate and the Golden Gate. My feet were standing on that hill in the footage in my video where I show the Lions Gate and then pan over to the Golden Gate. That hill does present a possible crucifixion site because it was near the eastern gate of Jerusalem and the main road to Jericho. It is also along what is now called the Via Dolorosa (but heading East instead of West). Finally, from that hill, the front of the temple could have been seen. And while it would have been at an angle, it is possible that the curtain could have also been seen, or at least the scurrying and chaos it would have caused inside the temple itself. The site is currently a Muslim cemetery, so the odds of finding, or even being able to look for, evidence of crucifixions having taken place there is just about zero, but it is a plausible eastern crucifixion site that fits well with a northern temple placement. I hope that helps answer your question. Blessings!
@@EndTimesBerean Shalom. Thank you for your prompt response. There was a Study I conducted a long time ago. Which resulted in a discovery of a walkway leading from the Temple over the Kidron valley to the Mount of Olives to the top of the third hill. To the place where King Solomon offered up thousands and thousands of animals to the LORD all at one time and a Red Heifer. I learned that the place of the skull was a Roman place affixed to the Mount of Olives. Having seen a topographical image. You can clearly see the skull. I’ve also read articles that describe that place as to where the Romans conducted their executions. Now that the LORD has placed me here on the Mount of Olives. I will have a better opportunity to further my investigation(s). Amen. I was also told that there is a Church that sits on Jesus’ tomb on the Mount of Olives. Amen.
@@susanupham7812 You’re very welcome. Yes, there is a possible empty tomb site in the Church of St Stephen at the bottom of the hill I mentioned. It is near the bottom of the hill in the Kidron Valley, in front of the Garden of Gethsemane and the tomb of Mary. It is presently believed to be the site of the martyrdom of St. Stephen, but interestingly, there is also a small, empty rock cut tomb there that is enclosed by a small building down and to the right of the church. Again, it is only a possible match and there is not any evidence I am aware of to use to try and prove it, but I like to think it could be the place where Jesus was buried. I also think that the northern area near the bus station and garden tomb nearby it would be excellent candidates, if the Roman centurion did not see the veil tear himself because it was an anecdotal addition to help define the moment he actually witnessed and Luke described. May God bless your trip to Israel! Shalom!
Hi Carlos! Thank you for watching! I like Ron Wyatt's work. I've been to see Jabal al Laws (Jabal Maqla) in Saudi Arabia, and I am convinced that he (and many others) are correct about it being the true Mt. Sinai. I also have friends who have visited the Noah's Ark site that he found in Turkey, and I have seen the ground penetrating radar scans that confirm that the boat like surface feature is actually in the shape of a boat hull underground. I have also compared its measurements to the biblical cubits measurement and confirmed that the feature matches the dimensions given in scripture. Along with other evidence reportedly found at the site, I am pretty sure that it really is Noah's Ark; however, I have not been able to visit the site for myself or independently confirmed any of the findings. I hope I will be able to visit it someday, though. Blessings!
@@EndTimesBerean Ooh! Idk about that. Ron Wyatt claimed to have located the Ark of the Covenant, at the Garden Tomb, which is 900 years older than a new tomb that Jesus would’ve been placed in. He also presents blurry photos of the Ark and claims it disappeared, probably stolen by Israel’s government, before he could take a better photo. He claims Jesus blood dripped onto the Ark, from above, where Jesus was supposedly crucified. As for Mount Sinai, I’ve seen several videos about the site Jebel Al Lawz, in Saudi Arabia. It’s compelling. But I’ve seen several other videos about other locations that seem equally possible. I think it’s important to note that Judaism never returned to any Mount Sinai, for remembrance or to mark it as the location, because Judaism holds that the site itself holds no significance or holiness. Archaeology and other sciences prove that the Jewish account can’t be accurate, since Torah claims that 600,000 men between 20-60 left Egypt, along with their families, totaling about 2 million people, when 2 million people didn’t even exist in Egypt then. Many scholars believe that Solomon wrote the Exodus origin story of Israel, and that it was later added to and made more prominent, after the return from the Babylonian exile, to reflect an exiled people’s return.
@@EndTimesBerean I don’t see any evidence for Noah’s Ark and believe it reflects a local flood that occurred during the emergence from the last ice age, which is still ending and isn’t finished. Judaism teaches that the flood covered the whole planet, that no land existed above water anywhere. That’s demonstrably false. I think that story is a metaphor. Kabbalah teaches that the flood was of Light, not water. And it’s more likely that the way people and animals survived was in an underground cave complex. The flood may have been radiation, perhaps from a supernova or a solar storm.
@@Qu4ttroStudio Hi again! I left out the Garden Tomb position because I'm not sure about that one, but I don't believe that the tomb was cut around the time of the Crusaders. It may not be from the first century, but others have defended that it is. Anyway, I personally have not really worked on that question, so again, I just left that one alone. However, as for Mt. Sinai, if Saudi Arabia is now open to tourists, maybe soon even to Israelis. If you ever get the chance, I would recommend a visit. I found the entire area to full of evidence for the biblical Exodus account, and much more than the Sinai Peninsula site, or the site in Southern Israel called Har Karkom. Har Karkom was definitely an ancient pagan site, and could have even been used for idolatrous worship by some Israelites, but it lacks all of the surrounding supporting finds that are present in Saudi Arabia. But all of that is of course a totally separate discussion from the Temple, which is where I have focused most of my efforts. About the Torah, I don't believe the assertions of modern scholars about a late development of the Torah. Authorship by Moses is a foundation stone of both Christianity and Judaism, and you may be surprised to hear that this was also affirmed by Jesus of Nazareth as well many times in the Gospels. Anyway, I appreciate your comments and the dialogue all the same. Shalom!
@@EndTimesBerean I think it’s clear that at least four different men authored the Five Books of Moses. There’s no archaeological evidence of a person fitting Moses or Joshua. I don’t believe that we conquered Canaan and all arrived from Egypt. I believe, as most historians believe, that most Israelites emerged from within Canaan. I think many of us Israelites were in Egypt, as the Iron Age collapse occurred, due to natural disaster, bringing the Sea Peoples. Those who left Egypt brought that part of the story with them. The Garden Tomb is thought to be 9 centuries older than Jesus. Wyatt places Golgotha there, not where the Sepulchre is. But i think he’s wrong, just like the Garden Tomb is not Jesus’. I do want to visit Saudi Arabia. But I wouldn’t want to bother going out to Jebel Al Lawz, especially since it’s not a tourist site, as far as I know.
I often wonder if the abomination of desolation is a metaphor for that individual who has been perfectly cloned from another male who will tell the world on the Temple Mount that the true temple is our genetic code through which our immortality can now be achieved. I know it sounds crazy but what isn’t in this day and age🤪
Thanks for the video. I would like you to clarify the following Actions 21:35 - "And when he came upon the stairs, so it was, that he was borne of the soldiers for the violence of the people". Actions 21:40 - "And when he had given him licence, Paul stood on the stairs, and beckoned with the hand unto the people. And when there was made a great silence, he spake unto them in the Hebrew tongue, saying"-----------The stage speaks of many steps on which many people can gather. Aren't these the steps under the south wall and the Al-Aqsa Mosque? If so, then were the Temple and the Sanhedrin under these steps? Actions 23:23-24 " And he called unto him two centurions, saying, Make ready two hundred soldiers to go to Caesarea, and horsemen threescore and ten, and spearmen two hundred, at the third hour of the night; 24 And provide them beasts, that they may set Paul on, and bring him safe unto Felix the governor"------------Where did such a large number of troops live, with horses and equipment, and obviously the figures given here are only part of the total?
Hello Stenli, thank you for watching and asking a question. I agree with you that it was probably at the southern steps. However, for one, we don't know that those were the only possible steps that the Scriptures could be referring to. Second, if they were at the southern steps, then they lead through the double gate underground and exit onto the Temple Mount via an underground ramp at a point just north of the present Al-Aqsa Mosque, which actually supports that the 500-cubit square was in the northern portion of the Temple Mount rectangle. The number of soldiers you are quoting is quite a few, but can be easily met by a single cohort (approx. 600 men). A full legion ( up to 6000 men) would not be required to have supplied the required troops. Hopefully that helps answer your question. Blessings!
Сhristian,the topic of the Temple, as part of the topic of the seventieth week of the prophet Daniel 9:27 excites me, so I will allow myself to comment on it in more detail with you, as I appreciate your accuracy, thinking and opinion. Let's climb virtually the southern stairs and we position ourselves next to the big fountain. To the north of us a second series of steps leading to the Golden Dome opens, after which the terrain to the fortress of Antonia along the north-south line does not suggest another series of steps. If we assume that the scene described in Actions 21: 35-40 took place on these second steps, then logic requires us to assume that the Rock under the Golden Dome, the East Gate, and the Dome of Spirits were part of the fortress of Anthony, and the Temple is it was positioned from west to east above the Wailing Wall, which also has great symbolism in terms of the centuries-old prayers of generations of Jews from this place. Seen from the Mount of Olives, the terrain below the east wall of this line is massively elevated and relatively flat (1 Chronicles 21:28), then to the south, Al-Aqsa begins a steady slope. 2. What is attractive about the hypothesis of a Temple on the Rock under the Golden Dome? By being the highest and centrally positioned point in the complex, and the Jewish tradition states that from this stone God began to create the world and on it Abraham was called to sacrifice his son Isaac, although traditional beliefs about the place do not have biblical relationship.If the Jews were to build the Temple today, they would do so in this very place, but political impossibility causes some of them to leave it in the hands of the expected future Messiah. 3. Temple on the site of the dome of the spirits. With the current configuration of the buildings on the complex and the appearance of the Third Temple at the beginning of the last prophetic week of seven years (Revelation 11: 1-2), such a location is architecturally sound, politically and religiously correct. The strongest argument of this hypothesis is the location of the Temple in line with the East Gate and its role for the past and future Temple. The prevailing opinion is that the eastern gate was used only by priests for the needs of the Temple as an official entrance-exit. Some archaeologists replaced or supplemented it with a viaduct connecting the temple with the Olive Hill, where the ashes from the cremations were thrown. Ezekiel chapters 40-44 describe the Temple Complex of the Millennium. Chapter 43: 1-2 describes the entry of God's Glory into the Temple, which is a one-time act that will close this gate forever and a vestibule will function instead. (Ezekiel 44: 1-3). The humble and meek entry of Jesus Christ into Jerusalem (Zechariah 9: 9; Matthew 21:10) is a different story, probably made through a door to the city, not the Temple. Then, in verse 12, He is in the outer court of the Temple, where He persecutes the merchants. Based on Zechariah 14: 4,8, I would place the Third Temple in a straight line in the middle of the Mount of Olives, where after the earthquake marking the Lord's Coming, living water will flow from the Temple to the Dead Sea, which will grow and bring life. Blessing in Christ!
@@stenlipetrov9510 Thank you again for your comments, Stenli. I don't think we can necessarily assume that any of the steps within the Temple Mount are original stairs, or at least in their original location, with the exception of the Golden Gate stairs. The question of any original remnants could be investigated with excavation, but of course that hasn't been allowed. However, I agree that there must have been more stairs within the Temple Mount because of the elevation increases and because many are described in the Mishnah. I do not see, though, that it logically follows that the Antonia Fortress was founded upon the Dome of the Rock. I know that has been proposed, but in the NW corner there is also elevated bedrock that could easily meet Josephus' description. Along the northern wall of the current Temple Mount enclosure there are also square holes carved into the rock that many associate with the northern stoa, which was taken down during the assault on Jerusalem and the Second Temple. Admittedly, there may be other ways to interpret the pattern of holes that is seen there, but they match what we would expect to be there for the stoa. This of course supports the traditional assumed location for the Fortress Antonia as being outside of the NW corner of the Temple Mount. I agree that Orthodox Judaism predominantly is reported to support the Dome of the Rock location. Since they also believe that the temple cannot be rebuilt in any location other than the original location, this would present an incredibly formidable obstacle to rebuilding the temple at the present time. However, for the reasons presented in the video, I do not think that was the original location, and I gather that you do not either. I also understand that you agree that the northern location presents a favorable scenario for rebuilding the temple in the present political and religious climate and that it may fit the description of the temple in Rev. 11:1-2. About the usage of the East Gate, so do believe that it was only used once a year, but the Mishnah has several passages describing it being used in a normal way, which I include in the book. Clearly the gate had a special use every year, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't used at all the rest of the time. I also spend quite a bit of time in the book defending why Jesus must have entered Jerusalem on a donkey, but through the Golden Gate and not the main eastern gate of the city, which I think was the Sheep Gate at that time. You might find that discussion helpful. Thank you again for sharing your thoughts. I hope these responses are helpful. May God bless you and your family!
Thank you, Dr. Widener. Some time ago I came across an interesting video in which an adult Muslim guide explained to Muslim tourists about some features of the architecture of the Dome over the rock. When he reached the northwest, he said that there were seven ornaments on the facade, because there was the Temple of God. That's how he put it. This supports your thesis about the location of the Temple. I do not have the opportunity to read your books, so I would be grateful if you could briefly present your arguments as to why Jesus entered Jerusalem through the Golden Gate and not through the Sheep Gate, which would be more in line with the mission he has fulfilled. Bless you!
@@stenlipetrov9510 Thank you for your question, Stenli. Here's an excerpt from the book (with some edits for readability) on the question of the gate Jesus entered. Many believe that Jesus could have ridden into Jerusalem from the Mount of Olives just as easily or more probably through the Sheep Gate into the city and not through the Golden Gate, and then entered directly into the Temple Mount enclosure from the north. The best response to this objection is to acknowledge that while we don’t know explicitly which gate it was, and both gates were presumably operational and in the general area during the time of Christ, we can make some significant inferences. Both the East Gate entrance mentioned in Ezekiel 43:1-5 and the riding of the Messiah into Jerusalem on a donkey in Zechariah 9:9 were recognized as messianic prophecies. We read in Matthew 21:1-11, that Jesus was being recognized as the Messiah entering Jerusalem. However, fulfilling either of the OT prophecies alone would not have caused people to proclaim Jesus as the Messiah as recorded in Matthew 21. Logically, he would have had to fulfill both at the same time in order to explain the recognition and exuberance of the people. Here’s why: even today, it is widely believed by Muslims, Christians, and Jews alike that the Messiah will enter through the East Gate, and that was also the case back in the time of Jesus, most likely associated with Ezekiel 43:1-5. Although this was the people’s expectation, he could not have just entered on foot through the Golden Gate and received recognition as the Messiah, because people often entered this gate on foot. Also, as recorded by Zechariah, they would not have easily recognized Jesus as Messiah simply by his entering the city on a donkey, through a gate where people regularly rode donkeys. He needed to simultaneously fulfill both prophecies, riding on a donkey, and entering the city through the Golden Gate, which was not a typical entrance for animals. Therefore, even though Jesus could have come through another gate, theoretically, it is unlikely that he would have gotten the recognition as Messiah and the response that it is recorded that he received. Another point to consider is that the Golden Gate was the first of three eastern gates that one reached before entering the temple. Both Jews and Gentiles, Herod included, could enter this gate, but even Herod could not enter into the main courtyard gates of the temple enclosure located within the Temple Mount area. Based on the fol- lowing report by Josephus, Jesus could have entered into the temple area through this outer eastern gate, or Golden Gate, of the Temple Mount into the Court of the Gentiles, which is the “first enclosure” referenced by Josephus. The next gate Josephus mentioned was the gate leading into the Court of the Women, where it was posted that no foreigner could enter. What this means is that the Golden Gate, while important and holy, was a gate that was generally accessible by all. It was not the gate that forbade the entrance of any non-Jew. "Thus was the first enclosure. In the midst of which, and not far from it, was the second, to be gone up to by a few steps; this was encom- passed by a stone wall for a partition, with an inscription, which forbade any foreigner to go in, under pain of death. Now this inner enclosure had on its southern and northern quarters three gates [equally] distant from one another, but on the east quarter, towards the sunrising, there was one large gate through which such as were pure came in, together with their wives; but the temple farther inward in that gate was not allowed to the women; but still more inward was there a third [court of the] temple, whereunto it was not lawful for any but the priests alone to enter. The temple itself was within this; and before that temple was the altar, upon which we offer our sacrifices and burnt offerings to God. Into none of these three did King Herod enter, for he was forbidden, because he was not a priest. However, he took care of the cloisters and the outer enclosures; and these he built in eight years." (Antiquities of the Jews, bk 15, ch. 11, sec. 5) I think this account from Josephus demonstrates that the East Gate was in regular use, and so for the reasons above, it makes more sense that this was the gate of Jesus' triumphal entry. Furthermore, it has been called the gate of the triumphal entry all the way back to Byzantine times, which give us the earliest records of the gate and its association with Jesus. I hope that helps! Blessings!
So you are saying that Jesus lied when he said that no stone would be left unturned? The chronology of the war pretty clearly stated that the temple was all completely destroyed but the highest tower and part of the wall. "7.1-4 Jerusalem and the Temple demolished. Titus orders the whole city and Temple to be razed to the ground, leaving only the tallest towers and a small portion of the wall on the west". And those were not part of the temple but probably of the fort which was the higher ground to the temple. That is why the Romans took it first, you always try to take the high ground first, once they got it it was downhill for the defenders of the temple which the Romans took last. I am sorry but you cannot ignore these and many other facts to make your theory work. Clearly the bible states it was a spring, not an aqueduct.
Thank you for commenting, but if you watched my whole video and especially the first one, then you already know that I don't think Jesus lied, and suggesting it is not helpful for honest dialogue. Only the disciples were with Jesus and saw exactly which buildings he was pointing at and including when he said "not one stone would be left on another." We are left to presume which ones he meant. The Temple Mount enclosure area itself was not prohibited to non-Jews, but inside of the great courtyard, there was a 500-cubit (some say 400-cubit) square area that was walled off and contained the temple and all of its buildings. Jesus and his disciples were standing among them when Jesus said, "Do you see all of these buildings." It's not difficult or a conflict with scripture to assume that he was not talking about the ground underneath their feet. Furthermore, the accounts you quoted can be reasonably understood as referring to the Romans leaving the Temple Mount intact. Since the largest stones weigh hundreds of tons, and because it says they wanted to leave some remnants to show how grand the fortifications had been, because Josephus says that they set up their standards in the Eastern Gate and made Titus Imperator there, etc., there is plenty of reason to logically understand that the Temple Mount was preserved. We even find remnants of the Tenth Legion camped there, but that was after the temple's destruction, not before. If you read the account of the city being taken, then did start on the north, which is the high ground. Then they took the Temple Mount, which is a little lower down. Lastly, they destroyed the lower city. So there's no conflict with standard military procedure as you understand it. You mention the reference to a spring in the Bible. If you search carefully, you will find that this is only mentioned in Ezekiel 47, which is speaking of the millennial temple, not a past one. I also included a quote from the Mishnah where they refer to the same prophecy and also to the fact that this will be someday in the future, but it was not there before when the temple was in service. They had to bring in a pitcher of water, but someday it will just flow out from under the temple. I hope that you will find these responses helpful. Blessings!
@@EndTimesBerean The Bible is clear about what Jesus said. What part of it do you disagree with? ““As Jesus was leaving the temple, one of his disciples said to him, “Look, Teacher! What massive stones! What magnificent buildings!” “Do you see all these great buildings?” replied Jesus. “Not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.” As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter, James, John and Andrew asked him privately, “Tell us, when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are all about to be fulfilled?” Jesus said to them: “Watch out that no one deceives you.” Mark 13:1-5 NIV
There is never anything wrong with the scriptures, but our interpretations of them can be flawed. I simply understand Jesus' statement as applying to all of the buildings of the temple within the 500-cubit square that the Mishnah records sat inside of the Temple Mount. I think that essentially Jesus was talking about the buildings (as scripture records), not "the great courtyard" and retaining wall platform on which it was built. There is no conflict with the plain reading of the scriptures to understand it in that way. You may choose to view it differently, but that is not implicit in the text. Josephus also records that the eastern and southern gates were not demolished, only burned, but because they are stone they were not destroyed. I include the quote from Josephus in the video that records them holding a ceremony at the East Gate, after the destruction was complete, which proves that it was not in fact destroyed. You may not like my view for some reason, but the evidence is there, and I am not ignoring anything or denying scripture.
@@EndTimesBereanTitus ordered the "whole city AND Temple to be razed to the ground, they left only the tallest towers and a small portion of the wall on the west according to Josephus. That does not mean that was the wall of the temple. Based on how angry the Romans were with the Jews for all the losses the Romans endured it makes sense that they did in fact leave nothing of the temple standing. The whole point was to erase Jerusalem and the Jews from that area. It was flattened with purpose and anger so that the Jews could never return. The crusaders came much later and could not figure out where the temple was and figured the top of the hill was the place and over that big rock. The Muslims came later and converted it to their monument to prevent the Jews from ever reclaiming the site of the temple. But they built it on the wrong site. Haha
@@MrPrios1 I've explained before that there is no reason that the "Temple" can only be understood to be the Temple AND the great courtyard it was built on. You can try and interpret Josephus' descriptions that way, but it isn't the only way to reasonably understand what Josephus was talking about. I think it's perfectly rational to understand both Jesus and Josephus as referring to the Temple and its buildings, but NOT the great courtyard of the Temple Mount. I am suggesting that the descriptions he gives have to be interpreted through all of Josephus' other statements about the Temple Mount and Jerusalem's destruction, as well as by looking at the archaeological remains that we actually have left from those times. Taking all of that together, I have explained in detail in my book how Josephus' statements can be seen to apply to describing the Western Wall and essential elements of the Temple Mount as still standing. Clearly, Hadrian did some level of restoration when rebuilding Jerusalem into Aelia Capitolina, and Constantine and the Byzantines may have added to it as well, not to mention the Umayyads, Crusaders, and Suleiman. However, none of the later builders built with the giant, fine-cut, bordered ashlar stones of the lower levels of the Temple Mount. All of those stones, except those in secondary use, show us a view of pre-70 AD Jerusalem. I think that viewpoint is very defensible and I stand by it.
Well, the opportunity is there and I think somehow we truly are close to that, but I'm not sure if we're going to be able to see it coming exactly, or not. Either way, we can pray for the peace of Jerusalem and keep watching. Blessings! ;)
Thank you for letting me know you posted a new version of this video. Although I'm still siding with what you are saying, I now have a new question regarding this. Since I viewed your original video, another video passed through my feed also claiming original physial landmarks to locate the temple at the Dome of the Rock. I suspect you addressed this view to some extent in this current video, but maybe used different terminology, and (unless I missed it) did not mention the landmarks cited in this other video. This other video is citing a 500 cubit square area as proof of the temple location, explains away the viewing of the holy of holies by saying it could be seen over the wall so the gate didn't need to line up petfectly, and also points toward a depression on the stone that is the same dimensions of the ark of the covenant. Can you explain what is going on here, regarding these other physical things he is pointing to? th-cam.com/video/XBT2UPaV_Z0/w-d-xo.html
Hi Nicholas! I address some of those issues in the book, but I can comment on the items you mentioned. First, no one can prove where the 500-cubit square really sat positively. All that can be shown is where it would fit. Any connection with scattered remnants within the 36-acre area is relatively pointless, because no one can prove, unless its bedrock, that it isn't just spoilia (discarded or reused stones placed there at a later time). The exceptions to that are the Golden Gate and the Southern Double Gate, which still has its ancient underground portico that leads to a ramp up from the southern entrance to the level of the Temple Mount. The testimony of the rabbis and the indirect descriptions in scripture are what tell us definitively that the Golden Gate was directly in front of the temple. If we didn't have those, then yes I would agree that the Golden Gate wouldn't be a landmark we could use as a reference--But we do, so it is. :) I also have other Mishnah statements in the book besides the ones in the video, and today's rabbinic opinion confirms it, too. The ones who say that it wasn't are non-Jews who are only looking at a single issue, like the need for the High Priest to see to the Mount of Olives sacrifice of the Red Heifer, but they are unaware of or are ignoring the information about the testimonies of alignment in the Mishnah and the Ezekiel 40-42 temple design that I reference in the video. There is even more discussion defending its use as a landmark in the book. It's really a keystone issue. If it could be dismissed so easily, I would never have hung my hat on it, but it can't be waived away, as some try to claim. It really makes it impossible for the temple to have been anywhere, except directly in line with it. Finally, the depression in the Dome of the Rock that supposedly matches the Ark of the Covenant dimensions is a self-defeating argument. First of all, the Ark was just set down on flat ground for 500 years before the Temple, so it needed no such depression, but more importantly, if that really was a depression cut in the time of Solomon, then that surface that it was cut into would have to be the original surface from the time of Araunah the Jebusite, and it isn't flat. Therefore, it couldn't have been a threshing floor. You see, one can't simultaneously argue that the reason the stone isn't flat anymore is that it was cut down and defaced by the Crusaders, etc. and yet at the same time argue that the original surface remains from the time of Solomon where the Ark was placed. I hope those things help. Blessings!
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I am so glad I stumbled across this !!! I have been baffled by this riddle for about 30 years. This scholar has finally untangled the many misunderstandings. The east gate line up nails it for me.
Thanks! 😀
Just watched you on Janie Duvall. I think you are right. I have been researching like you. I am also a code researcher and a Messianic. I told people in 2020 I felt we were in first have of trib. I think we are entering second half. I know that rapture was found in the code in the book of Ruth, Shilhuv Natzal Ha Mashiach. Lifted up or snatched up by the Messiah. Yeshua said has his hand been shortened that can not save? He is the first promise keeper, he will keep his promise. You mentioned the Tshirt I have with the words and the box printed on it. I have had it for years. Shalom Christian.
I am certain now..100% proof of the temple location. Big thank you to Dr. Christian Widener. My heart is glad...Heavenly Father in total control..from the beginning to end and end to beginning!!!
Thank you so much, Alex! May God bless you and may he grant peace to Jerusalem!
When I first became a believer in Aug. 1968, I lamented the fact that I was not living in Biblical times... how wrong I was. A few years ago I had the privilege to stand at the foot of the Golden gate. During one of the Israeli wars, a plan was hatched to blow a hole in the walled-up gate in order to catch the enemy off guard. A rabbi nixed the plan because of OT prophecies. What ignited or sparked your interest in such research and what sustained you throughout all those years? Well done, it touched my soul.
Thank you Manfred! It all started with reading Bible prophecy. However, I don't know why, but I would say that God just let me see that something wasn't right about what archaeologists were saying about the gate, particularly when I was led to read Ezekiel 44:1-2 and connected the Golden Gate to the gate that Jesus had entered. I found the testimonies of pilgrims identifying it as the Palm Sunday gate in a well-known book on Jerusalem by J.E. Peters. Those ideas just stuck like a pebble in my shoe. Over the years, I just kept reading and collecting reference materials on the temple location, but it wasn't until April 2019 that I felt the Lord giving me the go ahead to write the book. I know I'm not the best person who could have written it, but I also just know its right. Plus, I'm used to being told something won't work, but proving it will anyway. :) But all by God's grace. And you're right, we are definitely living in biblical times. Maranatha!
@@EndTimesBerean Great testimony, thanks for sharing. May God bless you for all the behind-the-scenes work you put in... AWANA Approved Workmen Are Not Ashamed
@@manfredseidler1531 Thank you, Manfred. May God bless you as well! Also, thanks for the link to Dr. James Tour. I can't claim to have had as illustrious a career as he as had, but I definitely spent my time in the R&D space and respect what he had to say very much. :)
@@EndTimesBerean I must correct you! - You are the best person to have researched and written this. You are so credible and you explain it so well all the way. Finally I believe this is the answer to this puzzle. This is going to keep growing and growing and others will be taking this up and verifying what you have shown to be so logical and well researched. I am sure of it. Do not worry about anything. Your research is going to ripple across not only Christianity but I will say Judaism and Jewish Messianic believers will take this up as well as Archaeologists. In fact I will try to point them towards your research in my own little way. Truth seeking Archaeologists especially Christians will have to address this very soon !!! God bless you. I am going to devour your other information. I am so excited !!! You have done a terrific work here. Keep it coming. Pastor from New Zealand.
@@colinm610 Thank you very much!
Yes it matters. All the facts do. I study the Temple Mount and before going, studied the Bible as you did. I’ve never heard anyone say what I believed where the temple was until you. I prayed as I looked and studied the Temple Mount. As I said before in the comments on your last video. Thank you for verifying what I believe!!
Great job Christian - well done - logical and systematic. Looking forward to whatever you bring forth in the days ahead. Blessing to you and your dear wife and family. Maranatha!
WAO WHAT A BEAUTIFUL STUDY FOR FINDI GS THE TRUE REASERCH WAO ALL GLORY TO THE LORD OF CREATION THE ONE N ONLY TRUE GOD OF CREATIO GOD OF REDEMTION N GOD OF SALVATIO N ALOHEEM THA K U SO VERY MUCH FOR SHINING THE TRUTH FOR THE LORD OF HEAVENS THE SALVATION OF GOD IS AWESOME I THANK THE LORD FOR THIS TRUE REASERCH U ARE IN MY PRAYER FOR GOD BLESSINGS N HIS MIGHTY PROTECTION OF BLESSIGS OVER U N YR LOVING FAMILY I DO NOT KNOW ENGLISH WELL BUT I KNEW BY STUDING THE WORD.OF GOD ABOUT THE TRUTH OF YAHUDI TEMPLE GOD BLESS THOSE STAND FOR TRUTH WHO BRINGS THE GOOD NEWS❤
This location is so evident ! Thank you for your study, Christian.
It seems that the misdirection to the true location of the temple as well as Mt. Sinai was willed by the Lord in order to preserve them undefiled until the end times. Well done Christian!
Thank you very much, Shelly! Let's watch what happens with the Temple Mount in 2023. I'm thinking it is going to be an interesting year! 😀
Great job Christian widener
This is amazing God has shown me this in the past.. God is using you in a big way…
Wow! This really is excellent work. I think you have me convinced, honestly.
Thank you for watching, Tommy! Blessings!
Well this was so worth watching I watched it three times so far just to safe guard it to memory. Everything is so compelling and you've done a wonderful job linking so much history to everything you say. I thought about you when we were hearing about the Abraham Accords wondering if you would literally be proven right very soon! Sincere blessings to you and yours!
Thank you so much, Melody! May it be rebuilt soon. Blessings!
My goodness this was good!! 🙌🏻 Not only is the presented information SO compelling and exciting, but this video is also SO professional and well done-I really enjoyed the beautiful visuals you brought in, and the music, which perfectly compliments the subject. You, and whoever else may have worked on this, did an EXCELLENT job!!
This is one I want to watch again! Actually, I think they ALL are! 😆
As always, THANK YOU!!! God bless you and your family, Christian! 🙏🏻
TH-cam recommended your interview with Janie Duvall, and then I went to your website and found this video. I appreciate how you clearly presented the information, and (as you say) in a way that anyone can follow the evidence and verify your conclusions. I believe that your conclusions are correct, and I hope for the Jewish people that the prophecy about rebuilding the temple might be fulfilled in the not too distant future.
Thank you very much! 😊
Wow!!!!
I always have the feeling it was somewhere close to Temple Mount. This point of view, analysis, if you will, is worth considering.
Thank you very much, Ruby. May God bless you!
Keep the videos coming. Maybe having other people on your channel and debate the location.
Thank you so much, Christian, for alerting me to this 2nd video. I read your book which I found very interesting indeed and totally convincing. This new video complements the book really well and explains things I hadn't quite grasped from reading the book. [I happened to notice a tiny typo at 22:32 in this video where the final word is "boudary" instead of "boundary" - sorry, but as a professional proof reader I can't help spotting tiny typos like this now and then!]
Oops! :) Thanks, Pam! I'm really glad to hear that the updated video was helpful. Blessings!
I know one thing I'll be glad when we go home.
“Next year in Jerusalem!”
Amaizing job! Thank you so much!
Awesome! I could learn about this stuff for hours and hours. (And have, over the years.)
Thank you very much, Michael! :)
This video is very well done and thorough!
Everyone interested in the Temple Mount needs to take this study seriously. Thank you!
Thank you for your support, Lambert!
Lambert Sir, I posted few comments. If you can go through that you will see how way off the mark is this Temple model.
I challenge each and every one of you!
If you can find just 2 Witnesses in the Bible of 7 Years of Tribulation!
Without out using Daniel 9:27!
2 Corinthians 13:1 “In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.”
Wonderful discovery, God bless you. This discovery has helped me a lot in my studies, I hope this new video also has a translation into Portuguese. One very interesting thing is that below the current Golden Gate there is an even older gate that was buried. God bless you, thank you.
Well done! I am in total agreement with the location you present.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts! May God bless you!
Wow, Josh. Great job.
Awesome details very deep input
Amen, amazing and the findings makes sense. I pray for peace and blessings on Israel every Saturday. Blessings to you, p.s thanks for the heads up.
Thank you so much Melina! May God bless you as well!
What a good workman & faithful witness you are!
Thank you very much. It's all for His glory and the readiness of the Bride. ☺️
Awesome presentation of the evidence. The Lord will enter through the Golden Gate. Thank you for providing this information in such clear manner. God bless you!
The Dome of the rock is located outside the walls of the original inner courtyard of the Temple, namely the courtyard of the gentiles. That is why the scripture reads a wall will be built between the Holy Temple and this other place “ not measured “ because it is given too the gentiles . So yes the Dome of the spirits is where the Ark of the Covenant stood.
Thanks for watching, Raul! I agree that the current conditions of recognizing the northern location, which would place the temple right next to the Dome of the Rock, matches very well with the description in Rev 11:2. Blessings!
I have enjoyed both videos. I am a Pastor and I see your discovery. I have placed some videos on the Signs of the Times under my TH-cam channel S. David Douglas. I see the Dome of the Spirit as the Holy of Holies and how it lines up with the Golden Gate and the Red Heifer sacrifice location on the Mount of Olives. You have done a great job.
Thank you very much, David! I hope you also check out my latest book, Witnessing the End. 😊 witnessingtheend.com
Awesome ! "Getting closer"
Amazing research. Glory be to God!!!
good morning chriatian, coming back to you, thank you for your contact, it came as a surprise to me. you have answered a lingering thought for me. a friend visited the temple mount approx. 25yrs ago and she took a photo of the arch under the golden gate and as she told us- she was told by the tour guide that the arch was part of the original golden gate. the lady came back got involved with the local jewish community and converted and studied and became a rabbi. but i have often wondered about the arch as i l have not communed with her since that time. i will have to order your book and follow up on my reading. i have a original book by dr. edersheim , the temple, . it is one of my valued possessions. once again 'thank you for putting a question to sleep. roy
You're very welcome. Thank you for watching, Roy!
Ok you got me, I FIND ALL OF YOUR ARGUMENTS both Logical and Biblical. And you findings of the evidence of the Melchezedick temple in the City of David is compelling..
Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts, Kirk! May God bless you!
An impressive work you have done! It is hard to not believe you are right. It might be decisive for the placement of the third temple.
Thank you so much. Let's pray it can be done peacefully. Blessings!
@@EndTimesBerean yes. I think there will be an agreement at the time for it. Some opposition like when Nehemiah rebuilt it the first time. When the right time has come.
Edit: I have corrected my first comment. “I might be” is now “It might be”.
Wow!!!! So convincing Christian! This makes my soul sing!!
🎶 I love that!! Amen!!
This is a well thought out presentation. Surley there exist a way to give this information to the elders of the nation of Israel.
Thank you very much. :) I have tried, and there is some awareness of my work, but it's hard to say what it will take to really change things.
Very well researched explanation. Thank you
Thank you very much for watching and sharing your thoughts! May God bless you!
@@EndTimesBerean - The final years approach now, with all the spiritual darkness increasing. I'm thankful the Lord has opened my eyes to this. That is my blessing. I'm doing what I can to wake up others. Blessings to you also.
Fascinating. Ty for your diligence.
Excellent hypothesis. 💙💚💙
Thank you for watching and sharing a comment! Blessings!
superb erudite speaker. a joy to listen to
I came across one comment when reading about the bar kochba war in 135AD. It was said that Hadrian had "plowed" the Temple Mount, they related that this meant that Mount Moriah was lowered so that its peak would be lower than the mount of olives, etc. This was to show the Jewish Rabbis that Moriah would never be higher than the other peaks again and therefore the Temple could not be placed there. Very interesting...
Hi Brian. I would say that there is a big difference between the general sense of plowing, as in leveling or destroying all structures on the Temple Mount, and literally cutting off the top of a mountain that was already well below the top of the Mount of Olives, whose current elevation is 826 m above sea level. Since the Temple Mount is currently so much lower and only about 742 m, that idea doesn't seem credible to me.
Good job I agree with you ...
I want to use your reserch to explain my believer people in india . Because many of them they can't read and Wright. They can't understand english , they only understand hindi and native language .
God bless you .
God give this man great health and power .to complet here godly work.....
Sir some of my people are cant use celfone internet because literate...
But I want to give your reserch ....
That would be awesome if you can help share the information with believers in India! May God bless you!
@@EndTimesBerean Thankyou so much sir
Congratulations! That’s was very well-done. You addressed and easily refuted all of the theories others mistakenly put forward. Your children are lucky to have such a man as their father. I can’t detract from this, at all.
I would only add that Jewish sources also locate the Tomb of the Hasmonean Jewish King, John Hyrcanus, where Jesus was executed next to and is now the site of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, as being aligned with both the Temple and the Eastern Golden (Mercy) Gate that the messiah is supposed to enter through.
I take that as high praise indeed, and I am humbled that you would say so. I sincerely hope that the truth comes to light, and I will be delighted if I have been able to play any part in that at all.
@@EndTimesBerean Amen.
Dr. Widener, I really enjoyed this presentation. It was very though provoking and was well laid out. Inquisitive as I am, I wonder, have you done any research into the types of stones on eastern wall of the Temple Mount? I have seen some research that points to a "transition" of stone types just north of the Eastern Gate. There is also another one farther to the north as far as I can remember. How do these fit into the discussion, and what does the evidence suggest for the northern part of the Temple Mount wall and the northern enclosure that you propose?
Thanks,
Brian
Hi Brian, I have posted some comments which I think the author hasn't given a thought. He looks more biased towards his theory than looking at things objectively from a neutral standpoint. You will see how I have invalidated his model.
@@whatzit9459 Antonia to the north, where it is usually placed, is higher than where the temple would have stood. Moriah slopes ever higher as you move north. The Temple Mount sits on one high point, but the mountain still gets taller to the north. The presence of stairs down to the temple from the fortress makes sense. The temple itself stood higher than the rest of the platform. Thus, it is only natural that there would be steps descending to the platform from a higher, northern position.
Hi Brian! Thank you very much! I am working on that as we speak. I believe, contrary to all current academic thought, that the entire area, now called the Temple Mount, was established by King Solomon, and that all of the fine and rough ashlar stones, that are of similar craftsmanship, even though there are variations in the style of their faces, are of his time, not Herod's, despite Herod being generally credited with them. But I think he actually just built it up from where Solomon had left it, or where it had been destroyed down to by the Babylonians, etc. There is also a much cruder style of ashlar that resembles the "Herodian style" but is clearly newer, and there are many fine ashlars that are clearly of Roman style, which in truth should mostly describe the stones used from the Herodian period all the way into the Byzantine period. The Crusader era modifications and the work of Suleiman I are probably the easiest to identify and separate out. Much of what I think is called Umayyad, isn't, but all that will have to be vigorously defended in the book.
The features you asked your question about in the eastern wall I have examined up close, and they do make it a problem to explain as being all attributed to a single builder, like Solomon. Fortunately, I think there are some good explanations that have perhaps not been considered before. Unfortunately, I'm not done yet. I hope to finish everything still this year, if God allows. However, no matter what, some things will remain mysteries because not everything can be proven one way or the other, and we have to rely on developing plausible explanations in order to support a certain point of view on difficult questions. So I will take the same approach of trying to defend the idea beyond what I consider to be a reasonable doubt. ;)
@@EndTimesBerean Thanks, I look forward to the results of your study!
The Temple fits the foundation. Clouds hold rain to water the earth. Our mouth is over the stomach. What goes up must come down. The Foundation supports the Temple. The Old and the New.
I thoroghly enjoy your teachings. I bet you are a great professor. I would have liked taking one of your courses.
Very compelling evidence!
Thanks, Jim! Blessings!
@@EndTimesBerean I have just ordered your book and passing on link to your videos. Where in SD are you based? I've been twice to USA, both times to SD, Midland, Pierre, Phillip, and Rapid city, as well as Black Hills of course.
Brilliant
Thank you for this video. Your research is to me unquestionable. What really seems to solidify this location is that the dome of the rock would not be disturbed in the Third Temple construction, thus keeping peace to build it.
And it will be so exciting to someday see that come to pass! Thanks for watching! Blessings!
Most Muslims see the entire compound, and indeed the city of Jerusalem and the land of Israel as Islamic property. They definitely won’t think that building any Jewish structure anywhere on the Mount is acceptable.
So , the only thing now is to build the temple & the aquatic system. Hope it it very soon.
See Hal Lindsey's A Prophetic Walk through the Holy Land, 1983. He said the same on Temple location.
that was great, persuasive, and dovetails with all other research. Footnote: it is July 2024 where do we stand, what would, could you update, comment in Summer 2024 ??
I also think this is the best poss location, aligned with the gate.
This video presentation concluded with the suggestion that the Temple can be rebuilt and Not require the destruction of the Dome and Mosque that is there now.
Great collection of videos on end times.
thanks for sharing your research via video on utube, source of info for so many.
The dome of the spirit probably goes back to Crusaders, to mark where golgotha (Holy Sepulcher) intersects the temple mount.
Jewish sources mark the site of the Sepulcher as the tomb of the Hasmonean Jewish King John Hyrcanus, which was aligned with the Temple and the Eastern Gate. Jesus was executed outside of it, at Golgotha, as you wrote. After the destruction of Jerusalem, that site was first a pagan shrine and then later built into the Sepulchre by Helena.
@elisheva Weberman
You’re not saying anything. We’re discussing which piece of bedrock on the raised platform where the Temple stood was the specific site of the Temple. There isn’t consensus among Jews about where exactly it stood, which is often discussed when explaining why we don’t ascend to the Temple Mount. Moreover, several prominent models of the Temple on display in Jewish institutions in Jerusalem depict the Sanctuary as aligned with both the Eastern Gate and the Tomb of John Hyrcanus, which is now the site of the Sepulchre. You’re not familiar with any details and are just clucking like a flustered hen. You’re not defending Jews. This theory isn’t an attack on Jews.
This really helps me understand what I first heard you mention in the interview with Ms. Duval, an excellent introduction to your thorough research. Have to admit the Gihon spring issue was a big stumbling block as well as the encampment of the Roman "legions" on the Temple Mount, that Mr. Klein says is Josephus' mistranslated word to "cohort" which is still puzzling to me.. as is the "evil king Simon" leveling the entire Zion Mount / Citadel of David location to bedrock, filling in the valley with the debris. Also the threshing floor under the Dome of Spirits does seem too small to be that, except with a symbolic purpose.. though where else could the new Temple be rebuilt that would make sense than in line with the Golden Gate, perhaps reentered by the Messiah like Jesus appeared to enter through the wall to see the disciples after resurrection when Thomas was able to put his hand into His pierced side for proof.. and the water appearing at the threshold of the new Temple could come from "metaphysical engineering" (similar to Gihon spring) as the earthquake that splits the Mount of Olives upon the arrival of the Messiah. To rebuild the Temple there, would require another Israeli victory to regain equal sharing of the Temple Mount, don't you think? The last time they won a war against all their Muslim neighbors didn't they concede control of the Temple Mount to the Muslims because of the Dome of the Rock? This idea appears to harbinger another victory in what seems to be shaping up as an all out war with the attackers bent on the destruction of the Jewish State, and the coming temporary false peace outcome. Do you think I am comprehending these issues effectively? I am saying too much here, pardon me & thank you for your wonderful work!
Thank you very much. I think you have a good grasp of the issues now. The threshing floor under the Dome of the Spirits was also almost certainly larger originally, but having the temple toppled two times on top of it probably did damage that would have been chipped away to make the present day platform that the Dome of the Rock is sitting on, leaving only the most undamaged portion as the reference point for building the platform. About building another temple though, I discuss my latest thoughts in this video: th-cam.com/video/VSVcMtE1WYc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1jj4Z67Mjy3plwtQ
Your proposed location is the south location. I think the Temple's original placement is north of the Dome because the centuries old Jewish cemetery is on that side and the real eastern gate is probably there, but concealed. The Jews want to resurrect and then conveniently walk through the gate and into the Temple.What are the arguments that the north location would be incorrect?
I purchased your book. It’s on the way. I will read it.
I will be honored for you to read it, and will welcome your feedback. I value your support and respect your candor and views, even when you don't agree with me on all issues. Thank you!
@@EndTimesBerean Thank you.
I have a couple of questions about the offering of sacrifices in the temple. First, if we are already in the Tribulation period, would it not be too late to construct it and begin offering sacrifices? And how would the people know that God is the Lord when Israel offers sacrifices since Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice?
Those are good questions, and they largely arise from the way we have assumed that things must take place during the tribulation; however, if things happen differently than we have supposed, as I think they are, then they are easier to resolve than one might suppose. First, this would simply mean that we don't really need a temple to be rebuilt because actually what is currently present as the Temple Mount is sufficient. I have a video discussing that point here starting at 47:21 : th-cam.com/video/yfYVsFzN6nE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_IfjPI1i1DgzCAo8 Then to the second point, we often think of sacrifices as only being for the atonement of sin, but that just isn't the case. If we called the sacrifices offerings, we would understand that better. So there are many reasons to make offerings to God (sacrifices), which are enumerated throughout the book of Leviticus. Let's just take one, though, the Passover sacrifice, it was a commandment of God to do it in remembrance of the Exodus, just like Christians are commanded to take communion in the NT. Plus, we make an offering of praise to God or an offering of our finances as a tithe, or an offering of our time in service, etc. Then lastly, how would that help people to know that God is the Lord? It's by seeing prophecy fulfilled, whenever that happens. I hope that helps.
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Question? I’ve been talking with a Rabbi in Israel who is totally convinced that the holy of holies is under the dome of the rock. I pointed him to your video and book, we’ll see if he follows up. Do you know if any of the Temple institute leaders agree with your analysis which I totally believe is correct. Thanks!
Thank you for that affirmation! I think many rabbis are still convinced about the Dome of the Rock location, but reportedly there are others, including some in the Sanhedrin who believe the northern location, proposed most notably by Asher Kaufman and just supported by me, is the true and correct location. The northern location makes sense for a House of Prayer on many levels, so it is definitely in the running for consideration. Thank you for helping to spread the word! Blessings!
@@EndTimesBerean That is very interesting. Thank you.
U are good God bless you great wisdom great work
Thank you for the video. I also bought your book on this.
Have you gained any support for your theory?
Someone else noted that the measurements of indentions for the feet of the Ark of the covenant and location of lamp stands in the Holy of Holies would insert well there.
Or it could be natural indentations or things that were cut out in the time of the Crusaders, or literally anything else, besides that. And the whole reason there would need to be cut outs is because it isn't flat, which is itself a disqualifying feature for a threshing floor. I hope that makes sense. :)
Have you heard the theory that the Temple Mount is not from the Second Temple, but the Third, supposedly built by Shimon bar Kochba? I know it’s not accepted. But supposedly the dimensions fit Ezekiel’s dimensions. Historians agree that Bar Kochba didn’t capture Jerusalem or build a Third Temple. But Jewish sources claimed he did, and maintained sacrifices there for three years. He certainly minted coins claiming to do so, which would be the only coins ever minted for an event that never occurred.
I don't see how that would have worked. They didn't have very many resources at that point and were severely oppressed. It is very possible that they attempted to set up or did set up at least a tabernacle or something, but there is no way they could have built the Temple Mount, which in volume is actually larger than the Great Pyramid at Giza. I honestly believe that Solomon built the entire Temple Mount complex. It was probably increased in height by Herod, as evidenced by the upper layer of large Roman style plain cut fine ashlars, which you see on top of the fine dressed ashlars, but I haven't finished my case for that yet. I think it's going to be a very strong argument, but it will take some time to finish the proof for it. You'll probably appreciate the reason I think it happened, though. In the nineteenth century you had the enlightenment and strong antisemitism. Intellectuals began developing their origins of science of reason and quickly settled on attributing all of modern reason and science to the Greeks (with begrudging acknowledgments to the Egyptians), followed by the Romans, etc. Modern archaeology was at that time still in its infancy. However, as the higher critics began getting involved they started questioning how Jewish builders centuries before the Greeks could have built something like the Temple Mount, especially since it included things like arches, etc., which they determined hadn't been invented yet. At that point to admit Solomonic origins for the Temple Mount would have meant owing the beginnings of the development of much of what was considered Western Civilization to the Jews, which in that anti-semitic climate was undoubtedly anathema, and so attribution was given instead in favor of Herod the Great. Anyway, that's me sharing my raw hypothesis and reasoning, which may or not seem remotely plausible to you, but like I said, it's a work in progress. ;)
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I totally agree that Bar Kochba couldn’t have built the Temple Mount. But the Ezekiel dimensions allows for that area to fit the Third Temple. And I own several coins minted by Bar Kochba, which does indicate a level of independence.
I’m familiar with the false notion that Romans invented the arch, which they definitely learned from Jewish masons who were in Rome for at least two centuries before Rome destroyed the Temple. Rome was a young kingdom, when Judea reached out for their protection. Rome respected the ancient wisdom of the Jews. Much of what became Roman, and therefore Western, was adopted from Jews.
Jews built the greatest structure in Rome, the Colosseum, which was also paid for with part of the Temple Treasury of Jerusalem.
I like your theory that Solomon’s Temple foundations are the foundations of what we call the second Temple, but I just don’t know enough. I had only ever heard that the Roman era Herod built it in the Roman style. If Solomon built the Western Wall, assuming that’s what you’re claiming, then wouldn’t he also be the builder of the Tomb of the Patriarchs or other structures attributed to Rome and Herod?
Or are the stones you’re referring to like the gates of Megiddo, which are likely from Solomon’s time or shortly after?
@@Qu4ttroStudio You have some of the revolt coins! That's awesome. What a piece of history! I think they would have still had access to temple images, so they certainly could have used them on the coins without having rebuilt a temple, but if they did, Hadrian of course destroyed it along with the rest of Jerusalem a few years later. About Ezekiel, the 500-cubit square he describes fits within the Temple Mount. Is that what you are referring to? Or something else?
And yes, that means that Solomon built the Tomb of the Patriarchs, and that gives us the best representation of his work, since it was never destroyed like Jerusalem. Of course, there were later modifications made to the structure, and those need to be accounted for, but clearly it is of the same era as the Temple Mount. Solomon had 150,000 men cutting and hauling stone for 20 years just building the Temple, Temple Mount, and his palaces, etc. No one else in history had that kind of manpower. Josephus says that Herod had 10,000 men (aided by 1,000 priests) working on enhancing the temple and its buildings for eight years. Even allowing that work continued in a lesser capacity for decades, Herod didn't have the necessary manpower for the whole Temple Mount and its giant 200-500 ton ashlar stones and cornerstones, but Solomon did.
Now, that's not saying that Herod didn't build anything. He did. A ton of stuff, but if you look closely at the construction of the Herodion, Caesarea by the Sea, Masada, etc., but he used typical Roman style building techniques and decorated it with plaster. That doesn't seem to fit with him being the builder of the Temple Mount.
As for Megiddo, Hazor, & Gezer, those were fortified cities. So just because Solomon didn't use really fine expensive ashlars in those cities, doesn't mean that they were built by the same person. Since rough cut stone is faster and cheaper than the really fine ashlars, its not unreasonable to assume that he saved time and money where it wasn't necessary. Also, you can imagine that the finest craftsmen worked in Jerusalem, and that lesser skilled people were deployed elsewhere. Surely, not everyone of the 80,000 stone cutters where so skilled to form stone to the beauty and precision required for the Temple and Solomon's palaces. Therefore, incidences of both higher and lower quality stone should be expected even during the same era when built by the same person over so great a diversity of projects. That's the idea, anyway. I'm not aware that anyone else is seriously trying to make that case. Although, I expect quite a few people have wondered about it. Especially after they dug the Western Wall tunnels and found out how far down and how large the lower foundation stones really are.
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Yes, I was referring to the idea that the Third Temple could be fit inside the current area of the Temple Mount.
My Bar Kochba coins include two with the Temple image, but others with more basic symbols. He probably did erect a tabernacle and not a Temple, but depicted it as the Temple on his coins.
I also have about 20 Achaemenid Yehud coins, which are so tiny and unrefined that I can’t believe anyone ever considered that money. But it’s apparently the first set of coins minted for Judea. They are imitations of Athenian obels, only smaller and cruder. They depict the Owl associated by Greeks with Athena.
That’s what I was suggesting about the three fortress cities of Solomon, that they seem large enough to prove that Solomon could indeed have built such structures as the Temple Mount. Your point is very logical, that he’d put more decoration into the Temple than a city gate outside of his capital.
I’d always wondered why there was no ruins from Solomon. But it’s possible they’re right in front of us. It makes a lot of sense, now, after you pointing out the manpower involved. The Babylonians, like the Romans, only needed to destroy the actual Sanctuary, not to bother deconstructing retaining walls of an acropolis.
I’ve been in Zedekiah’s tunnels, too, which seem like a good place to quarry fine limestone. And not far from the Last Supper Room, on the Southern slope of Mount Zion, next to the Christian cemetery on the other sided the road, is a quarry. There’s a third, just a few minute walk from there, in East Jerusalem. Are there clues at quarries, as to when they were used and by whom?
Question: Who built the aquaducts for the first temple?
Solomon. Why?
@@EndTimesBerean wondering what evidence is there for the presence of aquaducts before the second temple?
@@johnnytangent2849 I'm working on a book for that, actually--Finding Solomon, but the aqueduct comes from the area known today by the name Solomon's Pools. I believe they really go back to that time, and so did most of the early explorers of Jerusalem. Modern archaeologists would probably disagree, but many of them think of Solomon as more of a King Arthur legend than a real person who did the things the Bible says he did.
Which all respect for your research the temple was never on fort Antonio which is now called the Dome of the Rock
thank you. i understand now.
Also, you are misreading Ezekiel 44, the eastern gate is shut AFTER the glory of the Lord returns, which is after Ezekiel's Temple is built.
So I'm not misreading it, I'm interpreting it in a way that you don't agree with. I'm reading it as a prophecy with a partial earlier fulfillment in very much the same way that Jesus read the first verse and half of Isaiah 61 and then said that this day he had fulfilled it, even though the rest of the chapter was still speaking about a future day, as recorded in Luke 4:14-30. You may not believe this is a fulfillment, but in the book I go over a lot more information and explain even further why I believe that it is. Remember, I just can't fit everything into the video. Blessings!
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If a transit line was shot from the center of the Dome of the Spirits through and beyond the center of the Eastern Gate, then I would presume additional evidence could be found on such line, up on the Mount of Olives. Has this been done? Very good research, Christian.
Thank you very much! That would basically be the hill behind and above the Church of Gethsemane, but I don't think any big excavations have been done there. Mostly, that would be for the Red Heifer, if they want to burn it in the same place they did in days of the second temple, but since the temple isn't operating right now, I think they could actually do the sacrifice anywhere "outside the camp," but that's a dilemma for the current rabbis to work out.
Hi Mr Widener
What do you think about Ron Wyatt.
I think he got a lot of things right, but I never got to meet him. I'm not so sure about the ark of the covenant report or the crucifixion spot that he talked about. I think his accounts sounded compelling, but they are hard to verify. I have been myself to the location of Mt. Sinai that he identified in Saudi Arabia, though, and I think that place is certainly very credible.
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One THOUSAND PERCENT IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU THAT THE TEMPLE WAS NEVER ON THE MUSLIM ROCK AND DOME NOW CALLED THE DOME OF THE ROCK.
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SEEMS THE FOUNDATION STONE VERY IMPORTANT..WHICH APPEARS TO HAVE A SPOT WHERE THE ARK OF THE SAT..SOUNDS VERY IMPORTANT AND RELEVANT..80 YEAR OLD FROM THE TOPS OF THE MOUNTAINS ISAIAH 2
That is on the al-Sahkra stone under the Dome of the Rock, which is not flat, and it was initially reported as a match, but it actually only matches one dimension of the ark. Furthermore, the ark was made to just set on the ground, which they did for nearly 500 years before building the temple, and there is no mention of ever cutting out an area or indentation for the ark.
If the bible institute agree then i think your right...
Thank you for watching and commenting, Azul! I'm glad that you liked the video. I'm really hoping that people will watch this video and understand exactly how we can all be sure of the temple's former location. May God bless you!
thank you once again for the extended Video, but I have a Question, is Revelation 11 : 1-2 has anything to do with the subject ? it shows exactly that the new temple can rebuild with no harm to the adjacent Islamic buildings, IMO, thank you
"I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. 2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months."
Thank you for watching and asking a question! Yes, I fully agree that the northern location completely satisfies the description of Rev. 11:1-2. I didn't make a point of that in the video because the other locations could also be loosely interpreted to fit that description, but none as well as the northern location. May God bless you for your diligence in watching for his return!
@@EndTimesBerean Thank you sir, for your prompt reply, keep up the good work and may God bless you abundantly!
@@NewMan0Egypt The Arabic subtitled version looks great! Thank you for helping to get this information out there! May God bless you!
@@EndTimesBerean My pleasure, God bless you!
Have you heard the story about Justin the apostate how he gave the Jews all the resources they needed to rebuild the temple but when they tried it was no stone left on stone and numerous fires and supernatural events stopped them in their tracks after 3 years of efforts. So fire and ash should be an indicator in the soil levels.
There is indeed such a report, but it has some fanciful sounding embellishments, so it is difficult to know how serious to take it, except that there was indeed a failed attempt in 363 AD to rebuild it under Emperor Julian, who died in the midst of the effort that same year.
My hope doesn't rest in the exact location for the temple, so I won't die on that hill. I do wonder if the wailing wall was part of those stones that would not remain, one upon another. If so , why are they still there?
Hi Steve, I believe that Jesus was talking about the 500-cubit temple square and it's associated buildings, which was found inside of the Temple Mount rectangular plaza, of which absolutely nothing remains. Without being actually present with Jesus when he said his words, either way we are left to infer exactly what he meant. Based on fact that he was standing on the Temple Mount looking at the temple buildings when he said this, I think it is reasonable to assume he was only talking about the 500-cubit temple area itself, which in those days was marked with a sign that forbid entrance to all foreigners (upon pain of death), but they could still enter the Temple Mount and stand in the outer court. I hope that helps. Blessings!
Thank you.
The Western Wall is a retaining wall built to level out and expand Mount Moriah. It’s not part of the Sanctuary, which is what was being described as not having one stone remaining. And that’s true.
Romans stole the Gold cause when Solomon built the first Temple a lot of God was used .
And wasn’t the temple curtain ripped in two and visible from the Mt of Olives?
Thanks for watching and asking a question, Rachel! I agree that a reading of Luke 23:45 certainly leaves open the understanding that the curtain of the temple was not only torn at the same time as the other events witnessed by the people at the crucifixion site, but it, too, was seen by them. We really don't know where the crucifixion site was, though. There are many different theories, but none of them have solid archaeological proof. There is a hill just outside the eastern wall of the Temple Mount, between the Golden Gate and the Lions Gate that is currently a Muslim cemetery. It is close to the Jericho road exit from Jerusalem and therefore it would fit the scriptural and historical requirements for the site of the crucifixion; however, since it is a cemetery, it would be very difficult to get any archaeological proof at the location. For one, digging would not be allowed, and for another, digging for graves has already occurred, which may have already destroyed or at least obfuscated any evidence that would have been there. But based on what I've seen of the site up close, it looks to be a viable candidate to me. I also think that the location I am supporting fits Revelation 11:1-2, but as for who will commit the final Abomination of Desolation, that remains to be seen...
That is during the time of Solomon when he built the first Temple
Ok i just had a random thought 2 min into this vid. The "prophecies" about the 3rd temple never say what size or how the temple is built right? So what if a kid with legos or tinker toys goes in and "builds" the 3rd temple on the spots listed in this video? Doom! heh heh vague prophecy fails to be specific and is triggered by a kids toy.
A full temple will be rebuilt in the Millennium. I think scriptures imply that there will also be a temple rebuilt before the tribulation. Certainly the sacrifices must be reinstated, based on scripture. However, since the entire Temple Mount is still standing, it is possible that the scriptures could be fulfilled by the Antichrist simply holding a press conference on the Temple Mount and declaring himself to be God. What I do claim, however, is that sufficient evidence exists to prove that the former location of the temple was in the northern location in front of the Golden Gate.
@@EndTimesBerean Ah, but what if. Do the red heffer prophecy and the other things needed to sanctify the temple. Size might not be as tiny as a toy, but might not be full scale either. Flash mob could show up with a prefab build and assemble. Then fortify it as a permanent structure and before the military shows up or a horde of angry locals show you have a sizeable temple reconstructed. Air lift in the heffer and by pass the check point for visitors and you could have a temple up and build in 2-3 hours? One large Russian cargo chopper could place enough material in one load to the site you mention and the calf and a follow up chopper could bring in 1 of each of the 13 tribes and relics. Temple built and sanctified in one day. Just not to scale. Maybe use preformed concrete walls to resist the mob afterword?
@@SteelWolf13 I totally agree that the prophecies can be potentially literally fulfilled in a way that may be hard to imagine, but when it does happen, we should be able to compare the two and make a sound judgment about whether or not an event reasonably fits the description in scripture. Any proposed fulfillment also has to fit into the broader context of revealed prophetic events. So if that happened, without a peace treaty in place, without the birth pangs of Matthew 24, or signs of the Seals of Revelation, etc., then designating the event as the ultimate fulfillment of the Abomination of Desolation would be premature. Anyway, that would be my approach. I appreciate you watching my videos and considering the evidence that I've presented. May God bless you!
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Why is the living water mikvah so far from the temple mount? They priest would not have walked through the unwashed masses so far, no?
It's not so far, and the pool of Siloam and the pilgrims road walkway up to the southern steps of the Temple Mount now reveals that this is exactly what the Jews did when the temple was in operation. They had hundreds of thousands of visitors, perhaps more than a million during the times of festivals, and would have had orderly and systematic ways of making their way through the washing and ascension process. There were also small mikvahs at the foot of the stairs on the southern end of the Temple Mount for times that were less busy, or for just the priests, which were closer by, etc.
@@EndTimesBerean good to know. I just discovered your work today. I can not thank you enough for taking a second look at prophecy. I am no scholar but my take has been that the math wasn't mathing from official narratives. I find most to be lazy repetition from religion experts. The LOVE OF TRUTH imo is the only thing driving a rejection of mans take on end times, may the Lord direct all our paths.
Do you think that God really wants the temple rebuilt? Isn't Jesus our Temple and are we not His temple? Just curious and wondering if we are reading it wrong?
I'm quite sure that there will be a temple rebuilt in the Millennium, or Christ's thousand year reign on the earth, which I believe is coming very soon. Certainly, spiritually, we are also already being built into God's temple, but that process is not yet complete. And the spiritual does not contradict the physical. Both often exist at the same time. As far as the present, however, I am not sure if a temple or tabernacle will actually be rebuilt, or if the prophesied events will just take place on the current Temple Mount. My latest thoughts on that are shared here: th-cam.com/video/VSVcMtE1WYc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2oBhEo3iVXDw-x4t
@@EndTimesBerean Thank you so much for answering my question. Also, are you familiar with this Jewish phrase? "Here now but not yet." I think it means that a type of something, whatever it may be, is here but it is not in its fullness yet. Thanks and God bless.
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It is very evident that you are closing your eyes to what is plainly visible before our eyes. If the Temple was located to the dome of the spirits, why would someone (Solomon and Herod) would take trouble to build huge arches near the southern walls of the present day Temple Mount? Even today these arches are standing as a witness that it held something above. Is it not because the Temple was located on the south, that these kings needed more flat surface to have a flat Temple compound? We also have the southern steps which led up to the Temple seen today.
Coming to the threshing floor, the present day Temple Mount floor is about 30 feet higher than it was during Jesus days. So digging near Al Aqsa mosque to some 30 feet will reveal the threshing floor that you are searching. Your entire theory goes by what you see now with your own eyes. Yet you deliberately choose to ignore these arches and the southern steps simply because you want to place the Temple on the dome of the spirits.
About the eastern gate: Truth is that the golden gate is the eastern gate to the city of Jerusalem and not the eastern gate of the Temple. The Eastern gate of the Temple was located much south and close to the 3 arches seen on the southern wall. If you think golden gate is the eastern gate of the Temple, then it displaces lot of other archaeological evidences. For example the discovery of the Trumpeting stone which was the south western corner of the Temple, was found near Robinson's arch. This marks the south western corner of the Temple which also aligns well with the southern steps and also provides a right explanation of the arches and Solomon's stables which were built to hold the platform. Only this southern theory will give you the possibility of having a deep slope near the south eastern corner of the Temple. It is told that Satan took Jesus to the tower on the south eastern corner of the Temple and asked him to jump down. Josephus proves that the south eastern tower was very high because of the steep slope under it. All of this must be trashed if you say golden gate was the eastern gate of the Temple.
That didn’t make any sense to me.
The arches were supporting the large courtyard, between the portico and the sanctuary, where the majority of pilgrims were entering from, as you wrote, from the Southern Triple Gate. The bedrock on the platform is attached to the earth. So, it could not have been lower than it is now. It could’ve only been higher, since you can cut bedrock away but not add to it.
From what vantage point did the Roman Soldier see the Temple curtain wrent ?
Hi Susan, thank you for watching and commenting. Just for clarity, I assume you are referring to the events listed in Luke 23:44-46, and then the statement in verse 47 that "The centurion, seeing what had happened, praised God and said, 'Surely this was a righteous man.'” So here's the big question. Can we undeniably assume that Golgotha was east of the temple based on this passage? Personally, I would like to say yes, but I'm not sure that can be 100% defended. It is conceivable that the note about the curtain being torn in two is anecdotal because it occurred at the same time (about noon), but that this particular event was not truly visible, only the darkness, the diminishing of the sun, and the utterance of Jesus' statement were fully observed by the Centurion. However, I do think it is more likely the comment about the curtain is included because the Centurion and others present did see it. I'm also guessing that the reason you are asking this question is that you believe that the City of David location has a better chance of presenting a Golgotha location directly east of it than the northern location I am presenting in the video. Regardless of why your asking, however, I don't know of any potential eastern Golgotha sites that have been thoroughly investigated for any archaeological evidence of past crucifixions. Consequently, we are forced to speculate about possible eastern sites, which can't really be used as evidence, either for or against a temple location view. That being said, I believe there is a possible Golgotha site that few people have seriously considered which is immediately outside the eastern wall of the Temple Mount in between the Lions Gate and the Golden Gate. My feet were standing on that hill in the footage in my video where I show the Lions Gate and then pan over to the Golden Gate. That hill does present a possible crucifixion site because it was near the eastern gate of Jerusalem and the main road to Jericho. It is also along what is now called the Via Dolorosa (but heading East instead of West). Finally, from that hill, the front of the temple could have been seen. And while it would have been at an angle, it is possible that the curtain could have also been seen, or at least the scurrying and chaos it would have caused inside the temple itself. The site is currently a Muslim cemetery, so the odds of finding, or even being able to look for, evidence of crucifixions having taken place there is just about zero, but it is a plausible eastern crucifixion site that fits well with a northern temple placement. I hope that helps answer your question. Blessings!
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Shalom.
Thank you for your prompt response.
There was a Study I conducted a long time ago.
Which resulted in a discovery of a walkway leading from the Temple over the Kidron valley to the Mount of Olives to the top of the third hill.
To the place where King Solomon offered up thousands and thousands of animals to the LORD all at one time and a Red Heifer.
I learned that the place of the skull was a Roman place affixed to the Mount of Olives.
Having seen a topographical image. You can clearly see the skull.
I’ve also read articles that describe that place as to where the Romans conducted their executions.
Now that the LORD has placed me here on the Mount of Olives.
I will have a better opportunity to further my investigation(s).
Amen.
I was also told that there is a Church that sits on Jesus’ tomb on the Mount of Olives.
Amen.
@@susanupham7812 You’re very welcome. Yes, there is a possible empty tomb site in the Church of St Stephen at the bottom of the hill I mentioned. It is near the bottom of the hill in the Kidron Valley, in front of the Garden of Gethsemane and the tomb of Mary. It is presently believed to be the site of the martyrdom of St. Stephen, but interestingly, there is also a small, empty rock cut tomb there that is enclosed by a small building down and to the right of the church. Again, it is only a possible match and there is not any evidence I am aware of to use to try and prove it, but I like to think it could be the place where Jesus was buried. I also think that the northern area near the bus station and garden tomb nearby it would be excellent candidates, if the Roman centurion did not see the veil tear himself because it was an anecdotal addition to help define the moment he actually witnessed and Luke described. May God bless your trip to Israel! Shalom!
Im just curious if you heard of Ron Wyatt and his findings?? Thank you for your research. Many are called few are chosen.
Hi Carlos! Thank you for watching! I like Ron Wyatt's work. I've been to see Jabal al Laws (Jabal Maqla) in Saudi Arabia, and I am convinced that he (and many others) are correct about it being the true Mt. Sinai. I also have friends who have visited the Noah's Ark site that he found in Turkey, and I have seen the ground penetrating radar scans that confirm that the boat like surface feature is actually in the shape of a boat hull underground. I have also compared its measurements to the biblical cubits measurement and confirmed that the feature matches the dimensions given in scripture. Along with other evidence reportedly found at the site, I am pretty sure that it really is Noah's Ark; however, I have not been able to visit the site for myself or independently confirmed any of the findings. I hope I will be able to visit it someday, though. Blessings!
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Ooh! Idk about that. Ron Wyatt claimed to have located the Ark of the Covenant, at the Garden Tomb, which is 900 years older than a new tomb that Jesus would’ve been placed in. He also presents blurry photos of the Ark and claims it disappeared, probably stolen by Israel’s government, before he could take a better photo. He claims Jesus blood dripped onto the Ark, from above, where Jesus was supposedly crucified.
As for Mount Sinai, I’ve seen several videos about the site Jebel Al Lawz, in Saudi Arabia. It’s compelling. But I’ve seen several other videos about other locations that seem equally possible. I think it’s important to note that Judaism never returned to any Mount Sinai, for remembrance or to mark it as the location, because Judaism holds that the site itself holds no significance or holiness.
Archaeology and other sciences prove that the Jewish account can’t be accurate, since Torah claims that 600,000 men between 20-60 left Egypt, along with their families, totaling about 2 million people, when 2 million people didn’t even exist in Egypt then.
Many scholars believe that Solomon wrote the Exodus origin story of Israel, and that it was later added to and made more prominent, after the return from the Babylonian exile, to reflect an exiled people’s return.
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I don’t see any evidence for Noah’s Ark and believe it reflects a local flood that occurred during the emergence from the last ice age, which is still ending and isn’t finished. Judaism teaches that the flood covered the whole planet, that no land existed above water anywhere. That’s demonstrably false.
I think that story is a metaphor.
Kabbalah teaches that the flood was of Light, not water. And it’s more likely that the way people and animals survived was in an underground cave complex. The flood may have been radiation, perhaps from a supernova or a solar storm.
@@Qu4ttroStudio Hi again! I left out the Garden Tomb position because I'm not sure about that one, but I don't believe that the tomb was cut around the time of the Crusaders. It may not be from the first century, but others have defended that it is. Anyway, I personally have not really worked on that question, so again, I just left that one alone.
However, as for Mt. Sinai, if Saudi Arabia is now open to tourists, maybe soon even to Israelis. If you ever get the chance, I would recommend a visit. I found the entire area to full of evidence for the biblical Exodus account, and much more than the Sinai Peninsula site, or the site in Southern Israel called Har Karkom. Har Karkom was definitely an ancient pagan site, and could have even been used for idolatrous worship by some Israelites, but it lacks all of the surrounding supporting finds that are present in Saudi Arabia. But all of that is of course a totally separate discussion from the Temple, which is where I have focused most of my efforts.
About the Torah, I don't believe the assertions of modern scholars about a late development of the Torah. Authorship by Moses is a foundation stone of both Christianity and Judaism, and you may be surprised to hear that this was also affirmed by Jesus of Nazareth as well many times in the Gospels.
Anyway, I appreciate your comments and the dialogue all the same. Shalom!
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I think it’s clear that at least four different men authored the Five Books of Moses. There’s no archaeological evidence of a person fitting Moses or Joshua. I don’t believe that we conquered Canaan and all arrived from Egypt. I believe, as most historians believe, that most Israelites emerged from within Canaan. I think many of us Israelites were in Egypt, as the Iron Age collapse occurred, due to natural disaster, bringing the Sea Peoples. Those who left Egypt brought that part of the story with them.
The Garden Tomb is thought to be 9 centuries older than Jesus. Wyatt places Golgotha there, not where the Sepulchre is. But i think he’s wrong, just like the Garden Tomb is not Jesus’.
I do want to visit Saudi Arabia. But I wouldn’t want to bother going out to Jebel Al Lawz, especially since it’s not a tourist site, as far as I know.
But if not one stone was left upon another, then the gates are gone too.
I often wonder if the abomination of desolation is a metaphor for that individual who has been perfectly cloned from another male who will tell the world on the Temple Mount that the true temple is our genetic code through which our immortality can now be achieved. I know it sounds crazy but what isn’t in this day and age🤪
ARK OF THE COVENANT
Thanks for the video. I would like you to clarify the following
Actions 21:35 - "And when he came upon the stairs, so it was, that he was borne of the soldiers for the violence of the people".
Actions 21:40 - "And when he had given him licence, Paul stood on the stairs, and beckoned with the hand unto the people. And when there was made a great silence, he spake unto them in the Hebrew tongue, saying"-----------The stage speaks of many steps on which many people can gather. Aren't these the steps under the south wall and the Al-Aqsa Mosque? If so, then were the Temple and the Sanhedrin under these steps?
Actions 23:23-24 " And he called unto him two centurions, saying, Make ready two hundred soldiers to go to Caesarea, and horsemen threescore and ten, and spearmen two hundred, at the third hour of the night;
24 And provide them beasts, that they may set Paul on, and bring him safe unto Felix the governor"------------Where did such a large number of troops live, with horses and equipment, and obviously the figures given here are only part of the total?
Hello Stenli, thank you for watching and asking a question. I agree with you that it was probably at the southern steps. However, for one, we don't know that those were the only possible steps that the Scriptures could be referring to. Second, if they were at the southern steps, then they lead through the double gate underground and exit onto the Temple Mount via an underground ramp at a point just north of the present Al-Aqsa Mosque, which actually supports that the 500-cubit square was in the northern portion of the Temple Mount rectangle. The number of soldiers you are quoting is quite a few, but can be easily met by a single cohort (approx. 600 men). A full legion ( up to 6000 men) would not be required to have supplied the required troops. Hopefully that helps answer your question. Blessings!
Сhristian,the topic of the Temple, as part of the topic of the seventieth week of the prophet Daniel 9:27 excites me, so I will allow myself to comment on it in more detail with you, as I appreciate your accuracy, thinking and opinion. Let's climb virtually the southern stairs and we position ourselves next to the big fountain. To the north of us a second series of steps leading to the Golden Dome opens, after which the terrain to the fortress of Antonia along the north-south line does not suggest another series of steps. If we assume that the scene described in Actions 21: 35-40 took place on these second steps, then logic requires us to assume that the Rock under the Golden Dome, the East Gate, and the Dome of Spirits were part of the fortress of Anthony, and the Temple is it was positioned from west to east above the Wailing Wall, which also has great symbolism in terms of the centuries-old prayers of generations of Jews from this place. Seen from the Mount of Olives, the terrain below the east wall of this line is massively elevated and relatively flat (1 Chronicles 21:28), then to the south, Al-Aqsa begins a steady slope.
2. What is attractive about the hypothesis of a Temple on the Rock under the Golden Dome? By being the highest and centrally positioned point in the complex, and the Jewish tradition states that from this stone God began to create the world and on it Abraham was called to sacrifice his son Isaac, although traditional beliefs about the place do not have biblical relationship.If the Jews were to build the Temple today, they would do so in this very place, but political impossibility causes some of them to leave it in the hands of the expected future Messiah.
3. Temple on the site of the dome of the spirits. With the current configuration of the buildings on the complex and the appearance of the Third Temple at the beginning of the last prophetic week of seven years (Revelation 11: 1-2), such a location is architecturally sound, politically and religiously correct. The strongest argument of this hypothesis is the location of the Temple in line with the East Gate and its role for the past and future Temple. The prevailing opinion is that the eastern gate was used only by priests for the needs of the Temple as an official entrance-exit. Some archaeologists replaced or supplemented it with a viaduct connecting the temple with the Olive Hill, where the ashes from the cremations were thrown. Ezekiel chapters 40-44 describe the Temple Complex of the Millennium. Chapter 43: 1-2 describes the entry of God's Glory into the Temple, which is a one-time act that will close this gate forever and a vestibule will function instead. (Ezekiel 44: 1-3). The humble and meek entry of Jesus Christ into Jerusalem (Zechariah 9: 9; Matthew 21:10) is a different story, probably made through a door to the city, not the Temple. Then, in verse 12, He is in the outer court of the Temple, where He persecutes the merchants.
Based on Zechariah 14: 4,8, I would place the Third Temple in a straight line in the middle of the Mount of Olives, where after the earthquake marking the Lord's Coming, living water will flow from the Temple to the Dead Sea, which will grow and bring life. Blessing in Christ!
@@stenlipetrov9510 Thank you again for your comments, Stenli. I don't think we can necessarily assume that any of the steps within the Temple Mount are original stairs, or at least in their original location, with the exception of the Golden Gate stairs. The question of any original remnants could be investigated with excavation, but of course that hasn't been allowed. However, I agree that there must have been more stairs within the Temple Mount because of the elevation increases and because many are described in the Mishnah.
I do not see, though, that it logically follows that the Antonia Fortress was founded upon the Dome of the Rock. I know that has been proposed, but in the NW corner there is also elevated bedrock that could easily meet Josephus' description. Along the northern wall of the current Temple Mount enclosure there are also square holes carved into the rock that many associate with the northern stoa, which was taken down during the assault on Jerusalem and the Second Temple. Admittedly, there may be other ways to interpret the pattern of holes that is seen there, but they match what we would expect to be there for the stoa. This of course supports the traditional assumed location for the Fortress Antonia as being outside of the NW corner of the Temple Mount.
I agree that Orthodox Judaism predominantly is reported to support the Dome of the Rock location. Since they also believe that the temple cannot be rebuilt in any location other than the original location, this would present an incredibly formidable obstacle to rebuilding the temple at the present time. However, for the reasons presented in the video, I do not think that was the original location, and I gather that you do not either.
I also understand that you agree that the northern location presents a favorable scenario for rebuilding the temple in the present political and religious climate and that it may fit the description of the temple in Rev. 11:1-2. About the usage of the East Gate, so do believe that it was only used once a year, but the Mishnah has several passages describing it being used in a normal way, which I include in the book. Clearly the gate had a special use every year, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't used at all the rest of the time. I also spend quite a bit of time in the book defending why Jesus must have entered Jerusalem on a donkey, but through the Golden Gate and not the main eastern gate of the city, which I think was the Sheep Gate at that time. You might find that discussion helpful.
Thank you again for sharing your thoughts. I hope these responses are helpful. May God bless you and your family!
Thank you, Dr. Widener. Some time ago I came across an interesting video in which an adult Muslim guide explained to Muslim tourists about some features of the architecture of the Dome over the rock. When he reached the northwest, he said that there were seven ornaments on the facade, because there was the Temple of God. That's how he put it. This supports your thesis about the location of the Temple. I do not have the opportunity to read your books, so I would be grateful if you could briefly present your arguments as to why Jesus entered Jerusalem through the Golden Gate and not through the Sheep Gate, which would be more in line with the mission he has fulfilled. Bless you!
@@stenlipetrov9510 Thank you for your question, Stenli. Here's an excerpt from the book (with some edits for readability) on the question of the gate Jesus entered.
Many believe that Jesus could have ridden into Jerusalem from the Mount of Olives just as easily or more probably through the Sheep Gate into the city and not through the Golden Gate, and then entered directly into the Temple Mount enclosure from the north. The best response to this objection is to acknowledge that while we don’t know explicitly which gate it was, and both gates were presumably operational and in the general area during the time of Christ, we can make some significant inferences. Both the East Gate entrance mentioned in Ezekiel 43:1-5 and the riding of the Messiah into Jerusalem on a donkey in Zechariah 9:9 were recognized as messianic prophecies. We read in Matthew 21:1-11, that Jesus was being recognized as the Messiah entering Jerusalem. However, fulfilling either of the OT prophecies alone would not have caused people to proclaim Jesus as the Messiah as recorded in Matthew 21. Logically, he would have had to fulfill both at the same time in order to explain the recognition and exuberance of the people. Here’s why: even today, it is widely believed by Muslims, Christians, and Jews alike that the Messiah will enter through the East Gate, and that was also the case back in the time of Jesus, most likely associated with Ezekiel 43:1-5. Although this was the people’s expectation, he could not have just entered on foot through the Golden Gate and received recognition as the Messiah, because people often entered this gate on foot. Also, as recorded by Zechariah, they would not have easily recognized Jesus as Messiah simply by his entering the city on a donkey, through a gate where people regularly rode donkeys. He needed to simultaneously fulfill both prophecies, riding on a donkey, and entering the city through the Golden Gate, which was not a typical entrance for animals. Therefore, even though Jesus could have come through another gate, theoretically, it is unlikely that he would have gotten the recognition as Messiah and the response that it is recorded that he received.
Another point to consider is that the Golden Gate was the first of three eastern gates that one reached before entering the temple. Both Jews and Gentiles, Herod included, could enter this gate, but even Herod could not enter into the main courtyard gates of the temple enclosure located within the Temple Mount area. Based on the fol- lowing report by Josephus, Jesus could have entered into the temple area through this outer eastern gate, or Golden Gate, of the Temple Mount into the Court of the Gentiles, which is the “first enclosure” referenced by Josephus. The next gate Josephus mentioned was the gate leading into the Court of the Women, where it was posted that no foreigner could enter. What this means is that the Golden Gate, while important and holy, was a gate that was generally accessible by all. It was not the gate that forbade the entrance of any non-Jew.
"Thus was the first enclosure. In the midst of which, and not far from it, was the second, to be gone up to by a few steps; this was encom- passed by a stone wall for a partition, with an inscription, which forbade any foreigner to go in, under pain of death. Now this inner enclosure had on its southern and northern quarters three gates [equally] distant from one another, but on the east quarter, towards the sunrising, there was one large gate through which such as were pure came in, together with their wives; but the temple farther inward in that gate was not allowed to the women; but still more inward was there a third [court of the] temple, whereunto it was not lawful for any but the priests alone to enter. The temple itself was within this; and before that temple was the altar, upon which we offer our sacrifices and burnt offerings to God. Into none of these three did King Herod enter, for he was forbidden, because he was not a priest. However, he took care of the cloisters and the outer enclosures; and these he built in eight years." (Antiquities of the Jews, bk 15, ch. 11, sec. 5)
I think this account from Josephus demonstrates that the East Gate was in regular use, and so for the reasons above, it makes more sense that this was the gate of Jesus' triumphal entry. Furthermore, it has been called the gate of the triumphal entry all the way back to Byzantine times, which give us the earliest records of the gate and its association with Jesus.
I hope that helps! Blessings!
So you are saying that Jesus lied when he said that no stone would be left unturned? The chronology of the war pretty clearly stated that the temple was all completely destroyed but the highest tower and part of the wall. "7.1-4 Jerusalem and the Temple demolished. Titus orders the whole city and Temple to be razed to the ground, leaving only the tallest towers and a small portion of the wall on the west". And those were not part of the temple but probably of the fort which was the higher ground to the temple. That is why the Romans took it first, you always try to take the high ground first, once they got it it was downhill for the defenders of the temple which the Romans took last. I am sorry but you cannot ignore these and many other facts to make your theory work. Clearly the bible states it was a spring, not an aqueduct.
Thank you for commenting, but if you watched my whole video and especially the first one, then you already know that I don't think Jesus lied, and suggesting it is not helpful for honest dialogue. Only the disciples were with Jesus and saw exactly which buildings he was pointing at and including when he said "not one stone would be left on another." We are left to presume which ones he meant. The Temple Mount enclosure area itself was not prohibited to non-Jews, but inside of the great courtyard, there was a 500-cubit (some say 400-cubit) square area that was walled off and contained the temple and all of its buildings. Jesus and his disciples were standing among them when Jesus said, "Do you see all of these buildings." It's not difficult or a conflict with scripture to assume that he was not talking about the ground underneath their feet.
Furthermore, the accounts you quoted can be reasonably understood as referring to the Romans leaving the Temple Mount intact. Since the largest stones weigh hundreds of tons, and because it says they wanted to leave some remnants to show how grand the fortifications had been, because Josephus says that they set up their standards in the Eastern Gate and made Titus Imperator there, etc., there is plenty of reason to logically understand that the Temple Mount was preserved. We even find remnants of the Tenth Legion camped there, but that was after the temple's destruction, not before.
If you read the account of the city being taken, then did start on the north, which is the high ground. Then they took the Temple Mount, which is a little lower down. Lastly, they destroyed the lower city. So there's no conflict with standard military procedure as you understand it.
You mention the reference to a spring in the Bible. If you search carefully, you will find that this is only mentioned in Ezekiel 47, which is speaking of the millennial temple, not a past one. I also included a quote from the Mishnah where they refer to the same prophecy and also to the fact that this will be someday in the future, but it was not there before when the temple was in service. They had to bring in a pitcher of water, but someday it will just flow out from under the temple.
I hope that you will find these responses helpful. Blessings!
@@EndTimesBerean The Bible is clear about what Jesus said. What part of it do you disagree with? ““As Jesus was leaving the temple, one of his disciples said to him, “Look, Teacher! What massive stones! What magnificent buildings!” “Do you see all these great buildings?” replied Jesus. “Not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.” As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter, James, John and Andrew asked him privately, “Tell us, when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are all about to be fulfilled?” Jesus said to them: “Watch out that no one deceives you.”
Mark 13:1-5 NIV
There is never anything wrong with the scriptures, but our interpretations of them can be flawed. I simply understand Jesus' statement as applying to all of the buildings of the temple within the 500-cubit square that the Mishnah records sat inside of the Temple Mount. I think that essentially Jesus was talking about the buildings (as scripture records), not "the great courtyard" and retaining wall platform on which it was built. There is no conflict with the plain reading of the scriptures to understand it in that way. You may choose to view it differently, but that is not implicit in the text. Josephus also records that the eastern and southern gates were not demolished, only burned, but because they are stone they were not destroyed. I include the quote from Josephus in the video that records them holding a ceremony at the East Gate, after the destruction was complete, which proves that it was not in fact destroyed. You may not like my view for some reason, but the evidence is there, and I am not ignoring anything or denying scripture.
@@EndTimesBereanTitus ordered the "whole city AND Temple to be razed to the ground, they left only the tallest towers and a small portion of the wall on the west according to Josephus. That does not mean that was the wall of the temple. Based on how angry the Romans were with the Jews for all the losses the Romans endured it makes sense that they did in fact leave nothing of the temple standing. The whole point was to erase Jerusalem and the Jews from that area. It was flattened with purpose and anger so that the Jews could never return. The crusaders came much later and could not figure out where the temple was and figured the top of the hill was the place and over that big rock. The Muslims came later and converted it to their monument to prevent the Jews from ever reclaiming the site of the temple. But they built it on the wrong site. Haha
@@MrPrios1 I've explained before that there is no reason that the "Temple" can only be understood to be the Temple AND the great courtyard it was built on. You can try and interpret Josephus' descriptions that way, but it isn't the only way to reasonably understand what Josephus was talking about. I think it's perfectly rational to understand both Jesus and Josephus as referring to the Temple and its buildings, but NOT the great courtyard of the Temple Mount. I am suggesting that the descriptions he gives have to be interpreted through all of Josephus' other statements about the Temple Mount and Jerusalem's destruction, as well as by looking at the archaeological remains that we actually have left from those times. Taking all of that together, I have explained in detail in my book how Josephus' statements can be seen to apply to describing the Western Wall and essential elements of the Temple Mount as still standing. Clearly, Hadrian did some level of restoration when rebuilding Jerusalem into Aelia Capitolina, and Constantine and the Byzantines may have added to it as well, not to mention the Umayyads, Crusaders, and Suleiman. However, none of the later builders built with the giant, fine-cut, bordered ashlar stones of the lower levels of the Temple Mount. All of those stones, except those in secondary use, show us a view of pre-70 AD Jerusalem. I think that viewpoint is very defensible and I stand by it.
Wow now will the Jordanian and Israel come to accord?
Well, the opportunity is there and I think somehow we truly are close to that, but I'm not sure if we're going to be able to see it coming exactly, or not. Either way, we can pray for the peace of Jerusalem and keep watching. Blessings! ;)
There is no 3rd temple, it doesn’t matter because it’s already happened.
Thank you for letting me know you posted a new version of this video. Although I'm still siding with what you are saying, I now have a new question regarding this.
Since I viewed your original video, another video passed through my feed also claiming original physial landmarks to locate the temple at the Dome of the Rock. I suspect you addressed this view to some extent in this current video, but maybe used different terminology, and (unless I missed it) did not mention the landmarks cited in this other video.
This other video is citing a 500 cubit square area as proof of the temple location, explains away the viewing of the holy of holies by saying it could be seen over the wall so the gate didn't need to line up petfectly, and also points toward a depression on the stone that is the same dimensions of the ark of the covenant.
Can you explain what is going on here, regarding these other physical things he is pointing to?
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Hi Nicholas! I address some of those issues in the book, but I can comment on the items you mentioned. First, no one can prove where the 500-cubit square really sat positively. All that can be shown is where it would fit. Any connection with scattered remnants within the 36-acre area is relatively pointless, because no one can prove, unless its bedrock, that it isn't just spoilia (discarded or reused stones placed there at a later time). The exceptions to that are the Golden Gate and the Southern Double Gate, which still has its ancient underground portico that leads to a ramp up from the southern entrance to the level of the Temple Mount.
The testimony of the rabbis and the indirect descriptions in scripture are what tell us definitively that the Golden Gate was directly in front of the temple. If we didn't have those, then yes I would agree that the Golden Gate wouldn't be a landmark we could use as a reference--But we do, so it is. :) I also have other Mishnah statements in the book besides the ones in the video, and today's rabbinic opinion confirms it, too. The ones who say that it wasn't are non-Jews who are only looking at a single issue, like the need for the High Priest to see to the Mount of Olives sacrifice of the Red Heifer, but they are unaware of or are ignoring the information about the testimonies of alignment in the Mishnah and the Ezekiel 40-42 temple design that I reference in the video. There is even more discussion defending its use as a landmark in the book. It's really a keystone issue. If it could be dismissed so easily, I would never have hung my hat on it, but it can't be waived away, as some try to claim. It really makes it impossible for the temple to have been anywhere, except directly in line with it.
Finally, the depression in the Dome of the Rock that supposedly matches the Ark of the Covenant dimensions is a self-defeating argument. First of all, the Ark was just set down on flat ground for 500 years before the Temple, so it needed no such depression, but more importantly, if that really was a depression cut in the time of Solomon, then that surface that it was cut into would have to be the original surface from the time of Araunah the Jebusite, and it isn't flat. Therefore, it couldn't have been a threshing floor. You see, one can't simultaneously argue that the reason the stone isn't flat anymore is that it was cut down and defaced by the Crusaders, etc. and yet at the same time argue that the original surface remains from the time of Solomon where the Ark was placed.
I hope those things help. Blessings!
@@EndTimesBerean thank you