The most significant differences are not in the way the books of the Tanakh and the Old Testament were order, but in the changes made to the scriptures (whether intentional or unintentional) from the Tanakh to the Old Testament. There are quite a few of these changes and they really do make a big difference between Jewish and Christian theology.
Nice to know the difference of Jewish scripture christian bible we hope that christian bible scholars and Jewish Scripture scholars of the present time will come Together to fix the ordering of these holy books to be the same as to the Original scripture to avoid confusion among people
The torah is the 5 books of moses genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. The old testament of christians has extra books that the jewish people do not recognize. They only acknowledge the prophets. The books not in the Torah are in otger books there are 3 books in the Jewish bible. They read the books in a different order. The Torah is considered the first and original holy book. Abraham is the christians moses where moses is the jewish Abraham
@@kckillakrack9714 that's not true. Christians accepted and recognized the 39 books of the Holy Hebrew Bible as the original canon of the Tanakh (Old Testament). Some translations like Septuagint (LXX) have 10 books more but these books are marked as "Deuterocanonical". Well studied Christians knows for sure that these books are not God breathed. They are there only because of the translators work. Born again believers have Bibles like King James Version (KJV) with the standard 39 books of the hebrew canon of the Tanakh and the 27 books of the New Testament, all of them (66) are God breathed.
@@dimitrismanolopoulos5499 of course they do. Jesus was born jewish. Most of the prophets and forefathers to christianity were jewish. Paul a.k.a. saul was jewish, jacob, moses. Even islam recognizes the new and old testaments
The Septuagint was translated by Jewish scholars into the dominate language of the day, which was Greek, around 300 BCE. In 600 AD Jewish scholars began the translation and compilation of the Masoretic text which was ultimately codified around 1000. The Septuagint was a fully Jewish translation.
The scriptures were translated into Greek to keep them out of the hands of the Edomite/Cannanite people who were now more in numbers in the land than the tribe of Judah!
the original septuagent is made only for the 1st 5 books aka the Torah the rest of the books were never translated ...later they started translating to greeks by people andthey started saying septuagent ...look it up !!! the 70 rabbis who made the original septuagent only translated "Genesis,Deut,lev,exodus and numbers" christians scammed u again !!
@@friedpickles342 I don’t hate Jesus and I’m Jewish. You do not know me and do not know who I am and what my values are. Do not prejudge a person based on their background. You need to know that there is so much you do not know, I do.
I don't know if talked in another video: - before the Jews compiled their bible, the Tanakh (centuries after Christ); - there was a Jewish Bible written in Greek(yes, before Israel had a bible in Hebrew or Aramaic. They hadn't compiled in a specific order), in Egypt in the Ptolemaic era. It was called the SEPTUAGINT; - The Septuagint was ordered in Greek so the Jews that were living in Egypt and couldn't speak Hebrew; - was written by 72 Jewish Scholars, divide by groups of 12. They compared all the translations and ended up with one fully organized "old testament bible" in Greek; - the Septuagint is the Old Testament that the first Christians had in possession to study and to make the first Christian Bible; To end i have to point: - the the Jewish bible Tanakh (the one compiled centuries after Christ) leaves some books from the Septuagint (greek speeking jewish in Egypt done centuries BC) out, called the Deuterocanonical Books. - the Protestants left those same books out centuries after, when they decide to separate from the Catholic Church. I think the video ended up confusing. It would be better if he started to name: - Septuagint VS Old Testament VS Tanakh
Thank you for this response. I am not sure, but any of this terminology means (I found this upload specifically to compare the Christian Old Testament to the Torah, in terms of a general overview for very very beginners) your detailed response pointed me in the right direction. So many other commenters are way over my head since I am not Jewish, but respect the religion greatly, and other Commenter’s are arguing back-and-forth Christian versus Jewish. Have a good day and again thank you!
@@cattywampusmcdoogle just because you choose not to accept something does not meen it didn't happen. Literally everything said about him happened so....
@@kckillakrack9714 hahahaha except it's not choice. Nowhere in the Torah or Writings or Prophets did it talk about 2nd or 3rd comings... it did however tell you what it takes to qualify for a king or priest and not having a paternal bloodline is an automatic disqualification.... not having a wife and children, disqualification. Teaching something other than what your forefathers taught... Deutoronomy 13 failed.... not bringing all the tribes back to their land, world peace just two more of the messianic prophecy that was never fulfilled. I mean we can go on and on.... but the text says what the text says... the Hebrew, not the Greek or Latin or English, but the Hebrew.
You have many things to consider: 1. Is the Jordan river in Kenya? 2. Was Yashuah baptised in kenya - which river? 3. Where are the Temple ruins which the Romans destroyed in 70 AD? 4. Were the ancient Pharisees and Sadducees also from Kenya? 5. Where is the Golgotha hill in kenya? 6. Where is the Garden of Gethsemane in Kenya? 7. Where are the ancient Roman ruins in Kenya? If kenya is ancient Israel the Kenyans killed their own Messiah!!! 8. Where is the ancient burial tomb of Yashuah the Messiah situated? When did the Romans rule in kenya (biblical Judeah)? Please provide Archeological evidence for all your claims? I am an openminded person but a true follower of Yashuah the Messiah🛐🕎📜📖🐑
I'm Jewish and I literally just read the bible, bu5 flip around the order and ignore the new testament. It's a lot harder than just buying a torah, but my brain refuses me the luxury 😤
The Septuagint is a Jewish book written by Jews for Jews using an earlier Jewish Scripture. (Only they were Hellenized having departed from Israel to Alexandrea Egypt.) The only thing Greek in the Septuagint is the language.
Since every Jew is taught to read Hebrew since ancient days up to today why would they need the Tanach translated into Greek? There is only one authentic Hebrew Tanach and it is written in Hebrew. It was probably translated into Greek for Greek scholars to study and they more than likely tampered with it the same as the Church.
Just a thought. If Hashem necessarily exists beyond space and time and if tanach is god-given, why would there be any expectation that the word of God conform to human conceptions of chronology?
I have the Tanakh installed on my phone. The groupings of books are different: Torah, the Writings and the Prophets. There's the 12 prophets. I noticed that Joel's and Ezekiel's chapter divisions are different.
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The truth is Saint Jerome removed the apocryphal books from his translation, but then added them back in after the Catholic Church helped him realize his mistake. Those books remained in the cannon up until Martin Luther removed them.
The Apocrypha does not ring in my spirit as being divine. Also, there are many scriptures in there that do not match up to the holy scripts. Also, the time of the Apocryphal writings is after the time of Malachi. In that time, Most High Elohiym was not speaking and giving Word to anyone.
Are you ignoring history here? The Apocrypha was not made canon until the Council of Trent in the 16th century. Also, Jerome did not consider them part of the canon of scriptures as the Jews didn't. He only gave in to the pressure to include them. So there was no mistake "to learn from". Get your facts right.
@taliagoodwomanmann "... ring in my spirit..."?! So your spirit becomes the final arbiter of what is scripture! 🙄 I guess you're a true follower of Martin Luther, who removed the books of James and Hebrews, only to return them after much complaints. You claim to follow the Bible but if you reserve the right to chose what is scripture then your claim becomes meaningless!
Anyone who isn't looking for a fight would understand he was saying it was one subjective element of his thinking. In short limited comments like this you don't expect people to give full nuanced defense of their entire worldview. Be a little more gracious and not so quick to misjudge, easily done in short discourse. Plus, I could add, what he shared is not isolated. I've studied church history from a wide variety of traditions, and there are many learned well read people over the last 2000 years who would say the same thing. For a Holy Spirit filled believer to read the canonical scriptures sends a confirming Amen through your veins. While reading the apocryphal books is slogging through unappealing history. I realize that's a subjective judgement, but for many of us it only comes after many objective factual, historical, and theological judgements came first. @@el-sig2249
Sure 19, Verse 33 in the Quran contains the statement of Jesus that he is peace on the day he was born, on the day he will die, and on the day he will be resurrected. Is this passage as an indication of Jesus' future death and resurrection?
Yes, in islam, we believe jesus (peace be upon him) will come back and live on earth for about 40 years , after which he will die. We believe Jesus (peace be upon him) did not die on the cross but was taken up to heaven and continues to live until his second coming. Ameen.
I'm not religious but really enjoyed this video from a historical standpoint. One thing though, wouldnt Jesus and Paul be referencing the Aramaic Targums not the Greek Septuagint because they would've spoken Aramaic not Greek
@@seekthetruth762 I have read the quran and was raised Muslim. It's not the truth. Jesus saved me from that kingdom of darkness. There is only one path to God, that is jesus. Prophet Mohammed was right when he first thought he was possessed, aisha should not have convinced him that it was God's revelations. Satan knows to twist scripture and add enough to lead astray.
Salt & light. You know you are lying Christians isn't the true teaching of Jesus your faith was mixed with the Pagans believe. Ask any Jews do you believe human should die for your sin. God said I'm not a man Jesus said I'm a man. Pagans use to kill their children it was easy for them to believe in Christianity because God killed his son makes more sense for the Pagans but as Muslim and Jews it's wrong believe. Read Ezekiel 18 18-20 you don't need to kill your son to forgive the Mafia. U said I was Muslim so you reject to worship one and only one true God and you want to worship trinity and human. You want to worship a Jew man? Wake up and accept Islam.
Satan is the lord and you curse Jesus in the Bible. In the Quran we curse the Satan and Jesus was a mercy from Allah. Which one is better? Satan didn't control our prophet unlike your God Satan took him to himself for 40 days and he lifted your God up and down showing him everything. So Satan effect his mind and took him to the mountain. Our prophet he only thought he slept with his wife nothing else. What the family of jesus thought about jesus? Mad man according to the bible. He didn't fail He kept him for 40 days. He bewitched by showing him everything around the world from the mountain. If I go to the mountain can I see all Europe NO so Satan effect the mind of your God. They kicked him from the city because he obeyed the devil and 2000 pigs were killed because of the mistake of jesus. Were Satan smarter He let the devil use the body of the pigs and judas.
@@seekthetruth762 I believe what I'm saying. Which is what you are doing as well so I understand. I will be praying for you my friend. May you feel the love of God that gives peace. May the scales fall off your eyes
Major difference. Isaiah 7:14 says young woman was pregnant then not future tense not Virgin in future tense. Just one of hundreds of differences. Also ,the Septuagint 72 rabbis were forced to translate into Greek was only Genesis to Deuteronomy only not the rest of Tanakh Hebrew scripture. Hellenistic apostates Greeks heretics later put together the Lxx Septuagint. Church father Origen later put together the "Old testament" christian version.
Coming from the perspective of an Orthodox Christian who generally favors the content of the LXX over the MT and who agrees with using the broader historical Christian canon of the Old Testament, if I could print the Old Testament in my own preferred order, it would be as follows, grouped by genre and narrative thrust: Genesis Exodus Leviticus Numbers Deuteronomy Joshua Judges Ruth 1-4 Kingdoms 1-2 Chronicles 1&2 Ezra Nehemiah 12 Minor Prophets Isaiah Jeremiah Baruch Lamentations Epistle of Jeremiah Ezekiel Daniel Tobit Judith Esther 1-3 Macabbees Psalms Job Proverbs Ecclesiastes Song of Songs Wisdom of Sirach Wisdom of Solomon
But when we read the Bible we are reading for our own understanding from our modern view point. In my opinion it doesn't matter if I get an understanding from the prospective of the original readers. The point is my spiritual journey.
@@doxholiday1372 the only meaning relevant is spiritual and that comes from the creator not the men who physically wrote the books nor the men who arranged them.
@James Sanchez You're misunderstanding. When it comes to the Bible the Creator's meaning and the authors' meaning are one and the same - that's what inspiration of the scriptures means. According to the bible the words of the bible ARE spiritual. ALL of them. And they're not supposed to be interpreted based on personal beliefs or experience. You're also misunderstanding the biblical concept of Spiritual. According to the bible spiritual doesn't mean cut off from life on earth or ethereal - Even God's Laws (The commandments, statutes, judgments, etc) are referred to as spiritual. (Read Psalms 119) Fortunately the instructions for reading and understanding the Bible are contained within the Bible. "But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of man's will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God." -2 Peter 1:20-21 "...The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." -John 6:63b The Creator inspired the words of the authors to deliver the exact message he wants readers to understand. Which is impossible to do unless you understand what they meant. Had he wanted modern day westerners to interpret his words based on their own worldview he would have inspired modern day westerners to write scripture. Now, obviously everyone has to APPLY what they learn to themselves in the here and now, but that's entirely different than interpreting what the words mean based on their personal circumstances and worldview. Hence the injunction against private interpretations, ie interpreting the scriptures according to one's own views. The bible interprets the bible. It provides its own keys to understanding it. "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:" -Isa 28:9-19 Understanding what the scriptures say requires knowledge of the rest of the scriptures. They all work together and can't be fully understood apart from the whole. Precept upon precept, precept upon precept,. Line upon line, line upon line. Here a little and there a little. "And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God. However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. But as it is written: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him." But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual." -1Corinth 2:4-13 "But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." -2Tim 3:14-17 "Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you." -Prov 1:23 "As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever." -Isa 59:21 "Yea, they made their hearts as an adamant stone, lest they should hear the law, and the words which the LORD of hosts hath sent in his spirit by the former prophets: therefore came a great wrath from the LORD of hosts." -Zec 7:12 "And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:" -1Corinth 2:4
@@doxholiday1372 I'm curious how you "interpret" or "read" the genocides of God and what he says about women... Let's face it: the bible, or for that sense: every other book, is interpreted by the zeitgeist. We would be savages if people took literally what's written in that book.
To avoid confusion among faithful children of God in our generations we pray and hope that christian Bible scholars with the Jewish scripture scholars will come together to fix the ordering of the Bible based on its Original source.after all we believe that these two books Bible and Coran are the words of God
Who can answer pls ? Were the 10 commandments only for Israelites within the Israelite community? Were the Israelis allowed to kill and rob all other nations, but just not their fellow Israelis??? Because we see that this was done in practice immediately after receiving the law on Zion and there was no negative reaction from God.
This is an easy one without having such a long TH-cam video to it. The Old Testament would have to be known as the Hebrew Bible but in Judaism it is the Tanakh other books actually come with the Tanakh explaining the Tanakh better like the talmud.
If the Exodus occurred about 968 years before the time of Esther and if the book of Esther is the first time (chronologically) that the exiles from the southern kingdom of Judah are called “Jews” in the Bible, is it appropriate to refer to the Pentateuch as “the Jewish Bible”? Moses wasn’t even a “Jew” in the sense of being of the tribe of Judah. He was of the tribe of Levi. If the old covenant (aka old testament) is a covenant based on what we do (illustrated by the promise, “all the LORD hath said we will do” - Exodus 19:8 & 24:7), if the new covenant (aka new testament) is a covenant based on what the Lord has done and what he has promised (beginning with the protoevangelium - Genesis 3:15), if the new covenant is older than the old covenant, if the old covenant is called old and the new covenant is called new because the old covenant was ratified with the blood of animals at Sinai BEFORE the new covenant was ratified with the blood of Jesus on Calvary, is it appropriate to refer to the parts of the Bible written in Hebrew as “the Old Testament” and the parts written in Greek as “the New Testament”? The answer, of course, is that people prefer their traditions to any reasonable analysis of either history or scripture. On the other hand, if one of the complaints against Christians by non-Christians is that Christians are unreasonable, would the replacement of some of those traditions be helpful in mitigating that accusation?
The Septuagint was translated into Greek, only the 5 books of Moses. Please the Tanach has been misintreperated, misquoted to feed there narrative. If you don't know Hebrew you can't understand it. Sadly you have missed out the depth and wisdom of Judaism.
Remember Yeshua son of Joseph was a Rabbi reffering to stories of his people.who probably were passed down orally and on clay tablets,and later written down on papyrus. So the stories the Jews passed on are probably way older then their on people.
Information purposely left of is to keep u from knowing the truth in its entities (if u have children and somethingoccurred would u like to know how it enfold in details or just what happened)
I thought God gave man free will. If the holy spirit was involved in the reordering then that goes against free will. Its far more likely the Greeks just rearranged the Bible because it didn't make chronological sense.
The truth was , Jesus a.s . Peace and blessings of almighty God the creator be upon him , he was the truth , he came and izraelies people day rejected him. , what you are saying now , you want is the truth , he never said this and that or a bible or Christianity , ok I don't want to hert filling of no body , thanks
Jewish people believe in the Torah not the old testament. Its 5 books of moses. Its less books than the old testament but its shares the 5 books of moses. Moses is one if the main people for jewish people all his descendents even the name of their country come from moses. Jewish people believe that jesus did not fulfill what the scriptures and prophets said of the savior
After 6000 years We all stil try to define GOD ,i think we will have a big surprise once we die ... good or bad idk I try to be a good believer and JESUS in the middle but all these books are men made 《 and that for ME is a no go 》.and in the end we dont know what to believe anymore .... They all say its suppose to be easy to understand ,but the more i know the more confused i become ,thats not from GOD sorry
I agree with you on how confusing they made it. We believe those books, the Torah and the Bible were altered by people from the original message. We also believe that God sent a last messenger confirming the original message and preserve it until the end of time, and the last messenger was mentioned in the bible and torah but they chose to deny it. I advise you to read the Quran with an open mind, a book that not a single letter has been changed since it was revealed.
End of the day - who is the real author of Old and New Bible ?So confusing? Better follow the latest version - revelation through Holy Spirit - Noble Quran
Satan's revelations have just enough from the bible in the quran to confuse. The quran and its hadiths are clearly plagiarism. I grew up with the quran so this doesn't come from a place of misunderstanding. I know darkness. Now I know light. If you really want truth, read both the quran and bible with scepticism. Ask God to reveal himself. Seek and you shall find.
wow didnt realise the compliation was so complicated. The Quran has 114 chapters in 30 parts. Always been that way. No differences at all in structure (not even a letter). Maybe because it was memorised from day one and recited daily in prayer (often multiple complete recitations of the entire Quran each year). Today have many millions of people who have memorised the entire Quran. There is an extremely strong tradition to recite the Quran with absolute precision with people following in prayer ready to correct the most minor of errors. Just so much more simple. The oral tradition tradition has meant it has remained protected over the 1.4 millenia.
The difference of the Septuagint and Masoretic, is hundreds of years of hebrew language changes. One should read both for study. Don't trust a masoretic bible completely without digging deeper.
The Hebrew Bible ends with the book of Chronicles, Cyrus's edict in 539 BCE, allowing the Jews to return to Judea and rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. The last verse reads: ““This is what Cyrus king of Persia says: “‘The LORD, the God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth and he has appointed me to build a temple for him at Jerusalem in Judah. Anyone of his people among you-may the LORD his God be with him, and let him go up.” of course this won’t do for Christians who did not consider king Darius to be the anointed one. The Christian Old Testament ends with the book of Malachi where we read: “See, I will send you the prophet Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes. He will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers; or else I will come and strike the land with a curse.” The first gospel technically was the gospel of Mark, although it’s positioned after Matthew. This, of course, leads smoothly into the New Testament, when John the Baptist (Elijah redivivus) introduces the true Messiah, and the day of the Lord.
Jewish Bible is the ORIGINAL one which Yeshua used in his lifetime on the Earth . Since English speaking people changed it according to their will doesn't mean that it is the right one.
Jews wrote the instruction manual (Bible) for the Christian religion and made one of their own Jesus (A Jew) the central figure of the book....lol! That central figure teaches Christians to be noble and poor, like Jesus. In other words...Jews taught you Christian to be their servants...LOL!
You just had a tarot card reading ad right before you started speaking so I'm not respecting anything you have to say because why! Would you sponsor that
Genesis chapter 2 verse 11 God tells Adam and Eve gold of the land is good. Adam and Eve don't need gold in the Garden of Eden wake up. The Roman dystopia
I don't think you quite understand that G-d wasn't speaking of literal (metallic) gold. If course they would have no need for that. There's a deeper underlying meaning which unfortunately, the modern Bible version do not convey. I'm not Hebrew but I do know that the Hebrew language often has multiple and varied meanings of different words depending on the context ect.. as does the Greek language. This makes studying the original books in their original language worthwhile. There are plenty of online courses and other resources for this if you're interested in diving deeper into the scriptures and their nuanced meanings.
Jewish Scripture was culturally appropriated by Christians. Just as Christian Scripture was culturally appropriated by Islam and Mormonism. Jewish folk-lore has it's roots in the surrounding regional polytheism. It is truly fascinating that the shift from ploy to mono. Both Baal and Asherah were part of the same Semitic pantheon as YHWH and El.
@@MsLunaWinter No it didn’t. You’re one of the people who gets confused with the name Christianity. They weren’t called Christians then obviously because it was before Christ.
Should have left it alone in the original language and original order. Greeks or Martians for that matter can translate all they want. It's not hard to learn Hebrew, the least we could do to show gratitude to God. Instead multiple conflicting translations and no sequencial order....
If you're looking for a kosher Tanakh use the Stone Edge Artscroll they sell a kosher Tanakh that has not been tampered with by Christians and Messianic-Jewish-wannabes from what I heard.
You forgot to mention that the book of Ezra it absolutely in the right position behind Daniel in the Jewish Scriptures. But the Christians moved Ezra, so they can teach that the book of Daniel is refereeing to Jesus. What a shame.
very little except the languages they aer written in . THE KJV IS ACCURATE TO THE ORIGINAL HEBREW AND ARAMAIC text WHEN YOU Translate the Torah into English directly the KJV mirrors the translation almost identically.
Very interesting and it makes sense! The manuscripts. Hebrew ARAMAIC CALDESCE in the Torah certain passage were read at passover. Feast of tabernacle Left Out the fact that no chapters or verses numbers are in the Torah. Plus 1st Samuel 2,d Samuel. 1st kings 2d kings. IST and second chronicles were treated as one book! 1st Samuel 2d Samuel became 1st kings 2d kings 3d kings. 4th kings 5 kings 6 Kings became chronicles. Remember also the kings and Samuel were written in men's idea while chronicles were the thoughts reasons of God VIEWS. Not man! Plus in the time of MOSSES and aberham even up to the third and fourth century there were no books like we have today+! They were Scholl' s when One Scholl' ended the next Scholl' became another book and when the septutios Greek it took more space. That's why we have 1 st Samuel and 2 d Samuel. 1st 2d kings ETC or that what I learned from my study of the word most interesting was is the fact that Jesus was teaching more to the biblical schoolers of his day they would. Ask Jesus questions about law or Sacrifice or something they knew should have Jesus mostly replied HAVEN'T YOU READ! OF COURSE THAT WAS A SETUP FROM THE. LEADERS OF THE TEMPLE OR SYNAGOGUE. TO ENTRAP JESUS SO THEY COULD KILL HIM OR THE ROMANS DO IT FOR THEM BECAUSE THE ROMANS HAD CIVIL AUTHORITY IN JERUSALEM!
Not a significant change iz dint fool people.we have jewish scholars like Dr.Dsnirl Boyirin Dr.Benjsmin D.Sommers Eho have been honesty and show the Jewish scriptures clisely show God who nanifests in localized ways and those so sent are called God. They use current translations. Then we hsve ohd holders who sre jews and believe jeus is the messiah and show the septuagant say to english is quite telusble.
Your title is a jumbled up mess of sheeyat. The only book that matters now is the 1611 KJV. Everything else is done and over. That which is perfect has come. And dump the dreads, dude. I know you ain’t hittin the bong…or are you?
Your looking at the bible as devine. I am looking at it from a politic perspective. You should always look at who wrote it when it was written and what political influence it had. Because the only reason for writing it is for the audience. And who was the audience and why did they need to hear it. If you understand religion as a measure of control, then you will see what the Bible was for whom is was written. In addition, if you're going to study the Torah, the profits and the writings, you have to look at the history of the writings. What changed in its history. For instance, the words El versus the words Elohim. If you're just going to study the current versions of each, then you lose the message all together. The oldest versions are the most accurate versions. Today's Bible is a political exercise
The most significant differences are not in the way the books of the Tanakh and the Old Testament were order, but in the changes made to the scriptures (whether intentional or unintentional) from the Tanakh to the Old Testament. There are quite a few of these changes and they really do make a big difference between Jewish and Christian theology.
Nice to know the difference of Jewish scripture christian bible we hope that christian bible scholars and Jewish Scripture scholars of the present time will come Together to fix the ordering of these holy books to be the same as to the Original scripture to avoid confusion among people
@@segundinamaclinic6588 Jesus has to go in that case
The torah is the 5 books of moses genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. The old testament of christians has extra books that the jewish people do not recognize. They only acknowledge the prophets. The books not in the Torah are in otger books there are 3 books in the Jewish bible. They read the books in a different order. The Torah is considered the first and original holy book. Abraham is the christians moses where moses is the jewish Abraham
@@kckillakrack9714 that's not true. Christians accepted and recognized the 39 books of the Holy Hebrew Bible as the original canon of the Tanakh (Old Testament). Some translations like Septuagint (LXX) have 10 books more but these books are marked as "Deuterocanonical". Well studied Christians knows for sure that these books are not God breathed. They are there only because of the translators work. Born again believers have Bibles like King James Version (KJV) with the standard 39 books of the hebrew canon of the Tanakh and the 27 books of the New Testament, all of them (66) are God breathed.
@@dimitrismanolopoulos5499 of course they do. Jesus was born jewish. Most of the prophets and forefathers to christianity were jewish. Paul a.k.a. saul was jewish, jacob, moses. Even islam recognizes the new and old testaments
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Thank-You, LORD, that i have a Bible i can read and understand in my own language.
IN THESE COMMENTS, MOST PEOPLE CLAIM TO KNOW BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE.
IS THAT NOT INTERESTING?
Maybe that tells something about religions...
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Great explanation & interesting tutorial, I will delve further into this, by God's grace. 👍🙏😇
The Septuagint was translated by Jewish scholars into the dominate language of the day, which was Greek, around 300 BCE. In 600 AD Jewish scholars began the translation and compilation of the Masoretic text which was ultimately codified around 1000. The Septuagint was a fully Jewish translation.
The scriptures were translated into Greek to keep them out of the hands of the Edomite/Cannanite people who were now more in numbers in the land than the tribe of Judah!
the original septuagent is made only for the 1st 5 books aka the Torah the rest of the books were never translated ...later they started translating to greeks by people andthey started saying septuagent ...look it up !!! the 70 rabbis who made the original septuagent only translated "Genesis,Deut,lev,exodus and numbers" christians scammed u again !!
@@atm2085 Source please
No...kindly research verify .
That is common misinformation.
@atm2085 legitimate christian source, or it's just wind your opinion.
This video helped me to understand my Jewish brothers and sisters.
Do you know they hate jesus?
@@friedpickles342 I don’t hate Jesus and I’m Jewish. You do not know me and do not know who I am and what my values are. Do not prejudge a person based on their background. You need to know that there is so much you do not know, I do.
@@jacobmosios3015 you're Jewish.. How can you not hate Jesus? Dangg
I don't know if talked in another video:
- before the Jews compiled their bible, the Tanakh (centuries after Christ);
- there was a Jewish Bible written in Greek(yes, before Israel had a bible in Hebrew or Aramaic. They hadn't compiled in a specific order), in Egypt in the Ptolemaic era. It was called the SEPTUAGINT;
- The Septuagint was ordered in Greek so the Jews that were living in Egypt and couldn't speak Hebrew;
- was written by 72 Jewish Scholars, divide by groups of 12. They compared all the translations and ended up with one fully organized "old testament bible" in Greek;
- the Septuagint is the Old Testament that the first Christians had in possession to study and to make the first Christian Bible;
To end i have to point:
- the the Jewish bible Tanakh (the one compiled centuries after Christ) leaves some books from the Septuagint (greek speeking jewish in Egypt done centuries BC) out, called the Deuterocanonical Books.
- the Protestants left those same books out centuries after, when they decide to separate from the Catholic Church.
I think the video ended up confusing. It would be better if he started to name:
- Septuagint VS Old Testament VS Tanakh
Thank you for this response. I am not sure, but any of this terminology means (I found this upload specifically to compare the Christian Old Testament to the Torah, in terms of a general overview for very very beginners) your detailed response pointed me in the right direction. So many other commenters are way over my head since I am not Jewish, but respect the religion greatly, and other Commenter’s are arguing back-and-forth Christian versus Jewish. Have a good day and again thank you!
The Word evolves with us and is us, and is God
couldnt find the other videos on this subject...
Jesus never made it a point to put down anything in the jewish bible or old testament. He merely came to fulfill what the prophets spoke of
Except he never did.... none of the messianic prophecy was fulfilled.
@@cattywampusmcdoogle according to?
@@kckillakrack9714 Tenakh......
@@cattywampusmcdoogle just because you choose not to accept something does not meen it didn't happen. Literally everything said about him happened so....
@@kckillakrack9714 hahahaha except it's not choice. Nowhere in the Torah or Writings or Prophets did it talk about 2nd or 3rd comings... it did however tell you what it takes to qualify for a king or priest and not having a paternal bloodline is an automatic disqualification.... not having a wife and children, disqualification. Teaching something other than what your forefathers taught... Deutoronomy 13 failed.... not bringing all the tribes back to their land, world peace just two more of the messianic prophecy that was never fulfilled. I mean we can go on and on.... but the text says what the text says... the Hebrew, not the Greek or Latin or English, but the Hebrew.
You have many things to consider: 1. Is the Jordan river in Kenya? 2. Was Yashuah baptised in kenya - which river? 3. Where are the Temple ruins which the Romans destroyed in 70 AD? 4. Were the ancient Pharisees and Sadducees also from Kenya? 5. Where is the Golgotha hill in kenya? 6. Where is the Garden of Gethsemane in Kenya? 7. Where are the ancient Roman ruins in Kenya? If kenya is ancient Israel the Kenyans killed their own Messiah!!! 8. Where is the ancient burial tomb of Yashuah the Messiah situated? When did the Romans rule in kenya (biblical Judeah)? Please provide Archeological evidence for all your claims? I am an openminded person but a true follower of Yashuah the Messiah🛐🕎📜📖🐑
Great video. Surprised not more views and followers!
Thanks, we're just getting started!
Excellent as usual!
Just curious about a claim early in the lecture- what books did Jerome leave out of the Vulgate?
So the torah and old testimate are the same, just different order? We should have a Jewish Bible since our religion was Judaism until Jesus came
I'm Jewish and I literally just read the bible, bu5 flip around the order and ignore the new testament. It's a lot harder than just buying a torah, but my brain refuses me the luxury 😤
Every translation is a commentary and every ordering of the books is a commentary
Really great commentary.
The Septuagint is a Jewish book written by Jews for Jews using an earlier Jewish Scripture. (Only they were Hellenized having departed from Israel to Alexandrea Egypt.)
The only thing Greek in the Septuagint is the language.
People will will know you are His disciples because of your love for one another.
Since every Jew is taught to read Hebrew since ancient days up to today why would they need the Tanach translated into Greek? There is only one authentic Hebrew Tanach and it is written in Hebrew. It was probably translated into Greek for Greek scholars to study and they more than likely tampered with it the same as the Church.
Just a thought. If Hashem necessarily exists beyond space and time and if tanach is god-given, why would there be any expectation that the word of God conform to human conceptions of chronology?
I believe that is a valid point that muslim also bring up as well. I think Christians think differently and place an bid emphasis on time lines.
@@brettnelson7518 Yet Islam places importance in the timeline, and especially on their prophet being the end of that "timeline of revelation"
Maybe to make more sense to us?
@@joseg.solano1891 COPE
So what are we not understanding when it comes to our Christian doctrines ?
The Old Testament is really about God and the Jew people Christians started in the New Testament as believers
I have the Tanakh installed on my phone. The groupings of books are different: Torah, the Writings and the Prophets. There's the 12 prophets. I noticed that Joel's and Ezekiel's chapter divisions are different.
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The truth is Saint Jerome removed the apocryphal books from his translation, but then added them back in after the Catholic Church helped him realize his mistake. Those books remained in the cannon up until Martin Luther removed them.
The Apocrypha does not ring in my spirit as being divine. Also, there are many scriptures in there that do not match up to the holy scripts. Also, the time of the Apocryphal writings is after the time of Malachi. In that time, Most High Elohiym was not speaking and giving Word to anyone.
Are you ignoring history here? The Apocrypha was not made canon until the Council of Trent in the 16th century. Also, Jerome did not consider them part of the canon of scriptures as the Jews didn't. He only gave in to the pressure to include them. So there was no mistake "to learn from".
Get your facts right.
@taliagoodwomanmann "... ring in my spirit..."?! So your spirit becomes the final arbiter of what is scripture! 🙄 I guess you're a true follower of Martin Luther, who removed the books of James and Hebrews, only to return them after much complaints.
You claim to follow the Bible but if you reserve the right to chose what is scripture then your claim becomes meaningless!
Anyone who isn't looking for a fight would understand he was saying it was one subjective element of his thinking. In short limited comments like this you don't expect people to give full nuanced defense of their entire worldview. Be a little more gracious and not so quick to misjudge, easily done in short discourse.
Plus, I could add, what he shared is not isolated. I've studied church history from a wide variety of traditions, and there are many learned well read people over the last 2000 years who would say the same thing. For a Holy Spirit filled believer to read the canonical scriptures sends a confirming Amen through your veins. While reading the apocryphal books is slogging through unappealing history. I realize that's a subjective judgement, but for many of us it only comes after many objective factual, historical, and theological judgements came first. @@el-sig2249
Martin Luther never removed them. He put them in a different section. The Apocrypha was kept in most bibles to 1880's.
So all that's different is the order the books appear in not the actual contents of the books ?
Lilith and the Golem have issues with this post
No. The text is different.
So why did the Christians alter the order from the jews if that's the primary source.
Some say the OT came from copy of the Masorite Jews.
Same reason they changed the name of the Son of God
@@ZachScheels Το όνομα του Υιού του Θεού ονομαζόταν Ιησούς από την αρχή της Καινής Διαθήκης
Because Christians stole everything from something else.
@@FlyTour69 no idiot it wasn’t Jesus is not his name
You can’t put things in order that we’re not meant to be in order.
the latin vulgate actually did contain the deuterocanonical books
1:24 so you're saying that some books were taken out of the complete word of God? Can we say that the Ethiopian bible is more complete then?
Sure 19, Verse 33 in the Quran contains the statement of Jesus that he is peace on the day he was born, on the day he will die, and on the day he will be resurrected. Is this passage as an indication of Jesus' future death and resurrection?
Islam denies the death of Jesus.
Yes, in islam, we believe jesus (peace be upon him) will come back and live on earth for about 40 years , after which he will die. We believe Jesus (peace be upon him) did not die on the cross but was taken up to heaven and continues to live until his second coming. Ameen.
I'm not religious but really enjoyed this video from a historical standpoint. One thing though, wouldnt Jesus and Paul be referencing the Aramaic Targums not the Greek Septuagint because they would've spoken Aramaic not Greek
I wanna read the tenach, then the New Testament. Is this ok?
Read first the Quran it's the last revaluation book.
@@seekthetruth762 I have read the quran and was raised Muslim. It's not the truth. Jesus saved me from that kingdom of darkness. There is only one path to God, that is jesus.
Prophet Mohammed was right when he first thought he was possessed, aisha should not have convinced him that it was God's revelations. Satan knows to twist scripture and add enough to lead astray.
Salt & light. You know you are lying Christians isn't the true teaching of Jesus your faith was mixed with the Pagans believe. Ask any Jews do you believe human should die for your sin.
God said I'm not a man Jesus said I'm a man. Pagans use to kill their children it was easy for them to believe in Christianity because God killed his son makes more sense for the Pagans but as Muslim and Jews it's wrong believe. Read Ezekiel 18 18-20 you don't need to kill your son to forgive the Mafia. U said I was Muslim so you reject to worship one and only one true God and you want to worship trinity and human. You want to worship a Jew man? Wake up and accept Islam.
Satan is the lord and you curse Jesus in the Bible. In the Quran we curse the Satan and Jesus was a mercy from Allah. Which one is better?
Satan didn't control our prophet unlike your God Satan took him to himself for 40 days and he lifted your God up and down showing him everything. So Satan effect his mind and took him to the mountain. Our prophet he only thought he slept with his wife nothing else. What the family of jesus thought about jesus? Mad man according to the bible.
He didn't fail He kept him for 40 days. He bewitched by showing him everything around the world from the mountain. If I go to the mountain can I see all Europe NO so Satan effect the mind of your God. They kicked him from the city because he obeyed the devil and 2000 pigs were killed because of the mistake of jesus. Were Satan smarter He let the devil use the body of the pigs and judas.
@@seekthetruth762 I believe what I'm saying. Which is what you are doing as well so I understand. I will be praying for you my friend. May you feel the love of God that gives peace. May the scales fall off your eyes
Major difference.
Isaiah 7:14 says young woman was pregnant then not future tense not Virgin in future tense.
Just one of hundreds of differences.
Also ,the Septuagint 72 rabbis were forced to translate into Greek was only Genesis to Deuteronomy only not the rest of Tanakh Hebrew scripture.
Hellenistic apostates Greeks heretics later put together the Lxx Septuagint.
Church father
Origen later put together the "Old testament" christian version.
Coming from the perspective of an Orthodox Christian who generally favors the content of the LXX over the MT and who agrees with using the broader historical Christian canon of the Old Testament, if I could print the Old Testament in my own preferred order, it would be as follows, grouped by genre and narrative thrust:
Genesis
Exodus
Leviticus
Numbers
Deuteronomy
Joshua
Judges
Ruth
1-4 Kingdoms
1-2 Chronicles
1&2 Ezra
Nehemiah
12 Minor Prophets
Isaiah
Jeremiah
Baruch
Lamentations
Epistle of Jeremiah
Ezekiel
Daniel
Tobit
Judith
Esther
1-3 Macabbees
Psalms
Job
Proverbs
Ecclesiastes
Song of Songs
Wisdom of Sirach
Wisdom of Solomon
What year was Torah printed?
2022
Are we seriously going to argue that it matters what order the books of the bible are in?
So the argument is the rearrangement not the message? 🤔
Is the testament of Solomon part of Jewish scriptures
Woah, I am the 777th sub o_o
Awesome content, thank you!
Chronicles makes more sense to end..... it’s a recap...
The Christian Old Testament? What??!😂😂😂😂
5:13, Jerome, seriously, was that his real name?
All the future telling is amazing in the OT. Thank God for the Dead Sea scrolls so everyone knows how Jesus was prophesied to come
Parts being taken out ?
Dosent sound like the power of the spirit, sounds more like contradiction
Why did he conveniently lie that Jerome omitted the other books... The truth should always stand
What happened to maccabees 1 and 2? Catholics have this
Catholics are not Christian or jewish let's get that real clear. We don't embrace hurting children
@@Witchslayer007 as a jew I approve this message 👍
Wha happen to the Maccabees again?
WOW LOOK AT SPACE /LIFE , 14 MINS WOULD SUFFICE MAD DELUSIONS
I thought you were holding a vape right at the start 😅
But when we read the Bible we are reading for our own understanding from our modern view point. In my opinion it doesn't matter if I get an understanding from the prospective of the original readers. The point is my spiritual journey.
Ridiculous. Your "spiritual journey" is determined and revealed by what those authors meant.
Who doesn't try to understand what someone means?
@@doxholiday1372 the only meaning relevant is spiritual and that comes from the creator not the men who physically wrote the books nor the men who arranged them.
@James Sanchez You're misunderstanding.
When it comes to the Bible the Creator's meaning and the authors' meaning are one and the same - that's what inspiration of the scriptures means. According to the bible the words of the bible ARE spiritual. ALL of them. And they're not supposed to be interpreted based on personal beliefs or experience.
You're also misunderstanding the biblical concept of Spiritual. According to the bible spiritual doesn't mean cut off from life on earth or ethereal - Even God's Laws (The commandments, statutes, judgments, etc) are referred to as spiritual. (Read Psalms 119)
Fortunately the instructions for reading and understanding the Bible are contained within the Bible.
"But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of man's will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God." -2 Peter 1:20-21
"...The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." -John 6:63b
The Creator inspired the words of the authors to deliver the exact message he wants readers to understand. Which is impossible to do unless you understand what they meant. Had he wanted modern day westerners to interpret his words based on their own worldview he would have inspired modern day westerners to write scripture.
Now, obviously everyone has to APPLY what they learn to themselves in the here and now, but that's entirely different than interpreting what the words mean based on their personal circumstances and worldview. Hence the injunction against private interpretations, ie interpreting the scriptures according to one's own views. The bible interprets the bible. It provides its own keys to understanding it.
"Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:" -Isa 28:9-19
Understanding what the scriptures say requires knowledge of the rest of the scriptures. They all work together and can't be fully understood apart from the whole.
Precept upon precept, precept upon precept,. Line upon line, line upon line. Here a little and there a little.
"And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.
But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,
which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
But as it is written: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual." -1Corinth 2:4-13
"But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them,
and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." -2Tim 3:14-17
"Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you." -Prov 1:23
"As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever." -Isa 59:21
"Yea, they made their hearts as an adamant stone, lest they should hear the law, and the words which the LORD of hosts hath sent in his spirit by the former prophets: therefore came a great wrath from the LORD of hosts." -Zec 7:12
"And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:" -1Corinth 2:4
@savage caps correct. When you study the Bible, God talks to you and He bless your spirit and soul even your physical body as well :)
@@doxholiday1372 I'm curious how you "interpret" or "read" the genocides of God and what he says about women... Let's face it: the bible, or for that sense: every other book, is interpreted by the zeitgeist. We would be savages if people took literally what's written in that book.
To avoid confusion among faithful children of God in our generations we pray and hope that christian Bible scholars with the Jewish scripture scholars will come together to fix the ordering of the Bible based on its Original source.after all we believe that these two books Bible and Coran are the words of God
Amen, well said. 👍
If the Koran is the word of God, why does it not contain the name of Elohim, which is YHWH.
Amen well said
Who can answer pls ?
Were the 10 commandments only for Israelites within the Israelite community? Were the Israelis allowed to kill and rob all other nations, but just not their fellow Israelis??? Because we see that this was done in practice immediately after receiving the law on Zion and there was no negative reaction from God.
This is an easy one without having such a long TH-cam video to it. The Old Testament would have to be known as the Hebrew Bible but in Judaism it is the Tanakh other books actually come with the Tanakh explaining the Tanakh better like the talmud.
If the Exodus occurred about 968 years before the time of Esther and if the book of Esther is the first time (chronologically) that the exiles from the southern kingdom of Judah are called “Jews” in the Bible, is it appropriate to refer to the Pentateuch as “the Jewish Bible”? Moses wasn’t even a “Jew” in the sense of being of the tribe of Judah. He was of the tribe of Levi.
If the old covenant (aka old testament) is a covenant based on what we do (illustrated by the promise, “all the LORD hath said we will do” - Exodus 19:8 & 24:7), if the new covenant (aka new testament) is a covenant based on what the Lord has done and what he has promised (beginning with the protoevangelium - Genesis 3:15), if the new covenant is older than the old covenant, if the old covenant is called old and the new covenant is called new because the old covenant was ratified with the blood of animals at Sinai BEFORE the new covenant was ratified with the blood of Jesus on Calvary, is it appropriate to refer to the parts of the Bible written in Hebrew as “the Old Testament” and the parts written in Greek as “the New Testament”?
The answer, of course, is that people prefer their traditions to any reasonable analysis of either history or scripture.
On the other hand, if one of the complaints against Christians by non-Christians is that Christians are unreasonable, would the replacement of some of those traditions be helpful in mitigating that accusation?
The Septuagint was translated into Greek, only the 5 books of Moses. Please the Tanach has been misintreperated, misquoted to feed there narrative. If you don't know Hebrew you can't understand it. Sadly you have missed out the depth and wisdom of Judaism.
Could you explain what Jew means and who are the Jews?
anyone in the abrahamic faith should read the tanach, new testament and quran. y'all are being lazy and tribalistic.
The Quran? You claim all the scriptures are corrupt cause they debunk you 🤷🏻♀️
@@jacstvofficial4490The Quran is the final testament. Read it!
Except the Septuagint was only the Torah
Identical
Remember Yeshua son of Joseph was a Rabbi reffering to stories of his people.who probably were passed down orally and on clay tablets,and later written down on papyrus. So the stories the Jews passed on are probably way older then their on people.
*older then their own people
Itis not the truth , for both , what have to do with the greece , ask the greece way day change there name first , ok common. ,,
Information purposely left of is to keep u from knowing the truth in its entities (if u have children and somethingoccurred would u like to know how it enfold in details or just what happened)
I thought God gave man free will. If the holy spirit was involved in the reordering then that goes against free will. Its far more likely the Greeks just rearranged the Bible because it didn't make chronological sense.
The messiah is the king of the hebrew not the king of Greeks common sense
The truth was , Jesus a.s . Peace and blessings of almighty God the creator be upon him , he was the truth , he came and izraelies people day rejected him. , what you are saying now , you want is the truth , he never said this and that or a bible or Christianity , ok I don't want to hert filling of no body , thanks
It’s sad that Jesus chose the Jews but they still deny him
God choose just 1 - Mary. ❤
Beyond that we are all equal.
God made us all.❤
Maybe re-read Jonah
There is a number of good lessons in this book.
Racism, running from G-d's call on your life, hypocrisy.. ALL souls belong to G-d.
Jewish people believe in the Torah not the old testament. Its 5 books of moses. Its less books than the old testament but its shares the 5 books of moses. Moses is one if the main people for jewish people all his descendents even the name of their country come from moses. Jewish people believe that jesus did not fulfill what the scriptures and prophets said of the savior
After 6000 years We all stil try to define GOD ,i think we will have a big surprise once we die ... good or bad idk
I try to be a good believer and JESUS in the middle but all these books are men made 《 and that for ME is a no go 》.and in the end we dont know what to believe anymore ....
They all say its suppose to be easy to understand ,but the more i know the more confused i become ,thats not from GOD sorry
I agree with you on how confusing they made it. We believe those books, the Torah and the Bible were altered by people from the original message. We also believe that God sent a last messenger confirming the original message and preserve it until the end of time, and the last messenger was mentioned in the bible and torah but they chose to deny it. I advise you to read the Quran with an open mind, a book that not a single letter has been changed since it was revealed.
End of the day - who is the real author of Old and New Bible ?So confusing? Better follow the latest version - revelation through Holy Spirit - Noble Quran
Quran is obviously a plagiarize version and is very inconsistent with Old Testament/Tanakh.
Satan's revelations have just enough from the bible in the quran to confuse. The quran and its hadiths are clearly plagiarism. I grew up with the quran so this doesn't come from a place of misunderstanding. I know darkness. Now I know light.
If you really want truth, read both the quran and bible with scepticism. Ask God to reveal himself. Seek and you shall find.
@@daughter_of_the_king you are wise! Only asking God himself can reveal what is true!
wow didnt realise the compliation was so complicated. The Quran has 114 chapters in 30 parts. Always been that way. No differences at all in structure (not even a letter). Maybe because it was memorised from day one and recited daily in prayer (often multiple complete recitations of the entire Quran each year). Today have many millions of people who have memorised the entire Quran. There is an extremely strong tradition to recite the Quran with absolute precision with people following in prayer ready to correct the most minor of errors. Just so much more simple. The oral tradition tradition has meant it has remained protected over the 1.4 millenia.
We know sir/ madam...
Can you guys leave our Bible alone? Go larp with your jibber jabber but stop pulling a mormon
The difference of the Septuagint and Masoretic, is hundreds of years of hebrew language changes. One should read both for study. Don't trust a masoretic bible completely without digging deeper.
The Chronicles Of Narnia & The Chronicles Of Riddick .
The Hebrew Bible ends with the book of Chronicles, Cyrus's edict in 539 BCE, allowing the Jews to return to Judea and rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. The last verse reads: ““This is what Cyrus king of Persia says: “‘The LORD, the God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth and he has appointed me to build a temple for him at Jerusalem in Judah. Anyone of his people among you-may the LORD his God be with him, and let him go up.” of course this won’t do for Christians who did not consider king Darius to be the anointed one. The Christian Old Testament ends with the book of Malachi where we read: “See, I will send you the prophet Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes. He will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers; or else I will come and strike the land with a curse.” The first gospel technically was the gospel of Mark, although it’s positioned after Matthew. This, of course, leads smoothly into the New Testament, when John the Baptist (Elijah redivivus) introduces the true Messiah, and the day of the Lord.
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There is no difference. There was only One Old Testament
That hair is for radio
Wait a minute this is not Jack Black !!!
We also have coloring books!
Jewish Bible is the ORIGINAL one which Yeshua used in his lifetime on the Earth .
Since English speaking people changed it according to their will doesn't mean that it is the right one.
Jews wrote the instruction manual (Bible) for the Christian religion and made one of their own Jesus (A Jew) the central figure of the book....lol! That central figure teaches Christians to be noble and poor, like Jesus.
In other words...Jews taught you Christian to be their servants...LOL!
You just had a tarot card reading ad right before you started speaking so I'm not respecting anything you have to say because why! Would you sponsor that
Thanks for your comment. We have no control over what ads show on our channel. That’s a TH-cam thing
Well said!
@@alfrazz1799 Channels don't control the ads BOZO!
Genesis chapter 2 verse 11
God tells Adam and Eve gold of the land is good.
Adam and Eve don't need gold in the Garden of Eden wake up.
The Roman dystopia
I don't think you quite understand that G-d wasn't speaking of literal (metallic) gold.
If course they would have no need for that.
There's a deeper underlying meaning which unfortunately, the modern Bible version do not convey.
I'm not Hebrew but I do know that the Hebrew language often has multiple and varied meanings of different words depending on the context ect.. as does the Greek language.
This makes studying the original books in their original language worthwhile. There are plenty of online courses and other resources for this if you're interested in diving deeper into the scriptures and their nuanced meanings.
Jewish Scripture was culturally appropriated by Christians. Just as Christian Scripture was culturally appropriated by Islam and Mormonism. Jewish folk-lore has it's roots in the surrounding regional polytheism. It is truly fascinating that the shift from ploy to mono. Both Baal and Asherah were part of the same Semitic pantheon as YHWH and El.
Someone’s been studying. : )
Indeed
Christianity is older than Judaism
@@MsLunaWinter No it didn’t. You’re one of the people who gets confused with the name Christianity. They weren’t called Christians then obviously because it was before Christ.
@@trishmagenta883 yeah, before Christmas everyone following God were jews. Aka JUDAISM
Should have left it alone in the original language and original order. Greeks or Martians for that matter can translate all they want. It's not hard to learn Hebrew, the least we could do to show gratitude to God. Instead multiple conflicting translations and no sequencial order....
... True..
Read the Quran
@@adeel2824 have been since I was 4 years old
I thought I was the only one in my thinking🤯🤯🤯Martians 🤣🤣🤣
Just buy the Greek version and read! 🤷🏻♀️
the Lord Jesus called Daniel a prophet.
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You forgot to mention that the book of Ezra it absolutely in the right position behind Daniel in the Jewish Scriptures. But the Christians moved Ezra, so they can teach that the book of Daniel is refereeing to Jesus. What a shame.
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very little except the languages they aer written in . THE KJV IS ACCURATE TO THE ORIGINAL HEBREW AND ARAMAIC text WHEN YOU Translate the Torah into English directly the KJV mirrors the translation almost identically.
Very interesting and it makes sense! The manuscripts. Hebrew ARAMAIC CALDESCE in the Torah certain passage were read at passover. Feast of tabernacle Left Out the fact that no chapters or verses numbers are in the Torah. Plus 1st Samuel 2,d Samuel. 1st kings 2d kings. IST and second chronicles were treated as one book! 1st Samuel 2d Samuel became 1st kings 2d kings 3d kings. 4th kings 5 kings 6 Kings became chronicles. Remember also the kings and Samuel were written in men's idea while chronicles were the thoughts reasons of God VIEWS. Not man! Plus in the time of MOSSES and aberham even up to the third and fourth century there were no books like we have today+! They were Scholl' s when One Scholl' ended the next Scholl' became another book and when the septutios Greek it took more space. That's why we have 1 st Samuel and 2 d Samuel. 1st 2d kings ETC or that what I learned from my study of the word most interesting was is the fact that Jesus was teaching more to the biblical schoolers of his day they would. Ask Jesus questions about law or Sacrifice or something they knew should have Jesus mostly replied HAVEN'T YOU READ! OF COURSE THAT WAS A SETUP FROM THE. LEADERS OF THE TEMPLE OR SYNAGOGUE. TO ENTRAP JESUS SO THEY COULD KILL HIM OR THE ROMANS DO IT FOR THEM BECAUSE THE ROMANS HAD CIVIL AUTHORITY IN JERUSALEM!
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Who is this Jesus you speak of? You mean Yeshua?
Yes
Christ vs. anti-Christ.
Not a significant change iz dint fool people.we have jewish scholars like
Dr.Dsnirl Boyirin
Dr.Benjsmin D.Sommers
Eho have been honesty and show the Jewish scriptures clisely show God who nanifests in localized ways and those so sent are called God.
They use current translations.
Then we hsve ohd holders who sre jews and believe jeus is the messiah and show the septuagant say to english is quite telusble.
Your title is a jumbled up mess of sheeyat. The only book that matters now is the 1611 KJV. Everything else is done and over. That which is perfect has come. And dump the dreads, dude. I know you ain’t hittin the bong…or are you?
Is this guy a Christian? It’s hard to tell. I’m assuming not.
He's Jewish.. just like most other unwitting Christians
Confused book for confused people
The bible god is god of the Jews, he’s not my god, heck, my ancestors didn’t know him and I don’t wanna know him.
The why are you watching the video and commenting?
Your looking at the bible as devine. I am looking at it from a politic perspective. You should always look at who wrote it when it was written and what political influence it had. Because the only reason for writing it is for the audience. And who was the audience and why did they need to hear it. If you understand religion as a measure of control, then you will see what the Bible was for whom is was written. In addition, if you're going to study the Torah, the profits and the writings, you have to look at the history of the writings. What changed in its history. For instance, the words El versus the words Elohim. If you're just going to study the current versions of each, then you lose the message all together. The oldest versions are the most accurate versions. Today's Bible is a political exercise