2018 Ram 3500 HD vs Ford F350 vs World's Toughest XXL Towing Test!
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I love how ford and ram owners can come together and laugh at GM together lol
My thoughts exactly!
Except what's funny is that when lighter loads were used the GM smoked the other two. Ram and Ford just arbitrarily make up a big tow number. I bet GM would do better than both the Ford and Ram with 30k behind it.
Whit Kern Funny thing is the GM’s are not rated as high as the Ford and Ram for weight.. it’s not a made up number that number has to be accurate, it is used for licensing/permits as well as they are mostly used commercially.
The Gooberment-Sucks that makes absolutely no sense
Until they test the 2020 Models when the GM Trucks will tow 32,000 lbs in crew cab longbed 4x4 (35,500 lbs Max). GM out tows both lb for lb.
"We Always Grease Our Balls" should be the next TFL/Ike Gauntlet shirt
Must have shirt.
You beat me to it
Matt S Best phrase Ive heard on here lol
LOL
I literally spit out my coffee when he said that.
I am a Cummins guy, I respect other people's choices.
ford always looks nice, but Cummins tow across the country a smooth rides.
Jeff depends on the trim. Ram has the best interior out of all the brands, but that’s for the upper level trims I guess.
Ford is nice and all and smooth driveing ford wins
they sure do, too bad I live in this stupid little island called the united kingdom, no big ol' trucks for me, the biggest we get here are ford rangers.
@@bigboimihai6559 Hey now, your country brought us all tea and probably a lot of other things too!
I agree
I was the one that requested a video like this in last years Ike gauntlet. Thank you for doing it. Another awesome review done by you guys. Still the number one review channel out there. Keep up the good work.
they should have used the 2018 Chevrolet dually ON the trailer for dead weight.
Put it on the front of the trailer and ,,,,, Whaaallaa! No brake applications downhill and lowest eta up the hill.
@@Scubasteve22 I've never wanted automatic till I got my Allison with exhaust brake. Don't need to push the brake in the Rockies towing my 9,800lb skid steer.
10 4 Jared! If the testers would set the cruise and exhaust brake etc, the way GM designed it, (towing confidence) it would win braking segment every time.
kyle stewart you win best comment award !
Nice
This is some of your greatest work. Not too much talking. Mostly action!
Thank you for watching!
Lol you have 67 likes, the displacement of both engines!
well 6.7...
USSR Ball cool observation. LoL
Thank you, I am good of observations.
Love your videos, nobody does it better, keep up the great work
You guys do a lot of work to make these comparisons.I don't own a truck or tow anything at all but I find these videos very entertaining.They are full of information and show the rest of us how much is really involved in towing anything,let alone a full capacity load up a very large mountain highway.Lots of stuff people need to be aware of to do things properly!
Another great and fair test . Really enjoy watching the three of you.
Both 6.7L engines are beasts! They have both come a long way
Awesome job as always guys! You all have great chemistry on camera! So it seems that both of these trucks are really great and you can't go wrong picking either one!
Great video. Loved seeing a super IKE max test this time. Well done and thought your overall scoring was done very fairly.
Without emissions the trucks would be way more powerful
that's a common misconception because you can tune either of those with full emissions intact and get 500hp no problem. Swap the turbos out or add a turbo and guys are getting over 600hp on the Ram. Emissions only hurts fuel economy in the Ford and Chevy. RAM pretty much stays the same when deleted.
@@MXvsATV144 source? I may be purchasing a one-ton sometime soon and have been looking at Rams almost exclusively. But I've heard good and bad about the 6.7.
erik pollnow I disagree I have a couple of trucks deleted and one of them is on stock tuning and it has almost 15 more hp and 35tq higher than stock
@@MXvsATV144 not true…
Great test. Keep it up guys.
Great Video guys!! Can't wait to see the same test with the 2019 Ram 3500
Bought a 2018 Ram 3500 Limited DRW 4X4 with Aisin 6 speed Cummins 6.7 and 4.10 gears last week. I traded in my 2017 Corvette Z06/07....do I miss the Vette? Nope, not a bit. This truck is unreal, and I'm not a "truck guy". I bought it so we could tow a 40' boat. I've got a 2018 NSX for my sports car fix, but for now, the NSX is parked.........can't get enough of the RAM......amazing tech, interior, drivability, etc.....one of the best purchases I've ever made. This ain't grandpa's truck..........wow.....have trucks ever changed since I was a kid...... ;)
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"We always grease our balls"
-Andre Smirnov, 2018
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Can't get any closer than that, Good Review Boys 👍
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Great video, what i really gather from this is that they are both very capable trucks for those who ACTUALLY tow that weight. At the end of the day it will come down to brand preference, and interior comfort
Great video. Both of these trucks are so close to each other it basically comes down to buyer preference.
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Great job as always,love the videos
Thanks
I like how professional this video was edited, also happy to see that the ram won.
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Ford is stronger and ram rust crazy
DelTalkoh the ram barely won and it doesn’t keep its momentum, if u were starting uphill with the ford then it’d do better, and also the rams are very unreliable, they have a shot ton of issues
@@popeyeandstraussmx4165 the reason I don’t like ram rust and transmission any others problems
Your guys test are great! Bought a new ram without checking hp torque rating until after I signed, figured everyone was at 425-450 was really not happy when I saw 385/800 anyway I’ve watched your tests and was very relieved to see the ram is right there with ford and gm
Hey fellas, I love these head to head tests y'all do. Always answer 90% of my questions, at least. Just a couple points I found annoying and thought I'd mention.
1 - DEF does not give you power, guys. It doesn't even go through the engine. These trucks use what's called Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) to control NOx emissions. This is achieved by spraying DEF in the exhaust where it will react in the catalyst.
2 - The exhaust brakes on these trucks are one and the same with the turbo. Nowadays, they all use Variable Geometry Turbos.
To achieve braking, they close the vanes which also increases exhaust volume as it spools up the turbo.
Last, if I buy a RAM, I'll be looking into the Pacbrake Load Leash. Pretty cool stuff. Probably would decend super Ike with no brakes because it changes the valve timing to maximize the effect of the exhaust brake.
Being a Dodge guy I have to say that never before have the competitive brands caught my eye like they do now, thanks mostly to great videos like this. Both trucks are gorgeous and a huge shout out to those massaging seats! I'm with Mr, Truck... It's a tie between the Ram and the Ford.
nice real world testing. two excellent trucks. thanks for the video.
Wow guys great test. I like seeing the behind the scenes stuff too. It's a ton of work to make these videos so thanks for the great content.
As for the test, it goes to show numbers in a brochure don't tell the whole story. Still amazing what both these trucks can do.
You're welcome, trucks can be complicated.
Excellent comparison!! Both excellent trucks. Cant go wrong with either. I enjoyed seeing you guys push them to the limit.
Awesome review guys..... Way to go Ram on a beautiful truck.
Yeah, on looks alone, Ram gets the nod for sure
Varnie 69 Cummins rule the diesel world. and it did it with 2 cylinders less that tells u how much better of a engine that Cummins is over the power joke engine
That Ram interior is really nice
Tac it really is!
Tac I’m a Chevy guy but I gotta agree with you.
Have a 2014, and it’s one of the only trucks I’ve found I fit in very comfortable with me being 6’4” and it’s one of the nicest interiors that I’ve found
Baron Van Oosting I’m 6’2” one thing I hate is a low roof, but have found dodge seems the lowest, going off memory.
They have come a long way
“Honey, can you pick up some water?”
*Hears Ike Gauntlet music in head*
As always, another great video gents. As a Ram owner it's nice to see it compete and win in an apples to apples real world comparison. Thanks for taking the time to put this together the way you guys do. Love your challenges.
Great vid guys keep up the good work.
Thanks
Nicely done guys.
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Great video! This is how all HD trucks should be compared! Gotta love how close these trucks are! Cummins baby!
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I'm a simple man, I see an Ike gauntlet video and I THUMBS UP!👍
They're both great trucks
Very impressive performers.
Idk about you, but I live in Europe, where pickups are small and weak compared to these trucks. But in America.... damn those rides are powerful as hell
Péter Oláh at least you get bad ass BMW’s lol I mean we do but at export cost
Nice name
(Yes i know your refrencing banaza) and yes i was named after the character.
Great video, very fair comparison I am a ford guy but the Ram was the winner this time
Saw a brand new one on the hwy coming home... BTW It was a 2018.....
Eddeville303 if you remove some of those luxury features and think of this as a commercial vehicle test, ram won with slightly better mpg and the air bag suspension to level out the back. If your reason to purchase one of these and your choice is 100% work related then Yeah the ram. But if those luxury features are important, the Ford. I love a good competition. However if you need to haul 30klb daily I wonder if a class 4 truck would be better. *shrugs*
When you start removing luxury features the weight also drops. Getting rid of an off road package alone drops skid plates and more highway oriented tires. Its not an apples to apples.
Ford f350 problem wheels
I don’t like the rams dually fenders they always look like a after thought but fords new design they worked it in very well
Great video, as always!
As a lifelong city dweller who has never had and likely never will have a practical need for trucks, A childish part of me always wants a really big one for no reason. Thank you for the videos you guys do.
Both impressive trucks. Ram has come a long way but that Ford is one good looking truck! Nice to have two great options in the HD segment.
The new ford front end is hideous!!!!!!!!!!
Justin Thurman the new ram front end is too
Justin Thurman but if you are towing in anything but a Ford you'll never see it
I agree the new fords have an ugly grill
Justin Thurman your hideous
Andre says, “we always grease our balls”! Hahaha
Thomas Rossi looool
What I like about the Ram mirrors is that you can make them look like normal mirrors whenever you aren't towing anything, while in the Silverado HD and Ford Super Duty, it will always be fixed vertical facing.
Another great video! Thank you guys!!
Great video!
Excellent video. Is anyone else surprised the 65 hp advantage the Ford has didn't result in a quicker time?
ib516
...yeah.
But spent extra fuel for more horses
Not really. At that much weight it doesn't spread out as far.
Not at all. It created a ton of heat as expected. Imagine towing a heavy load from Utah and down to Florida during the summer. Man, that V8 would need an ice bath and the MPG would be down right frightning.
ABOlsen69X I don't think it would be that bad overall. 7% grade over what, 8 miles is pretty much the most severe service it would see.
It's kind of a wash between these two trucks I think.
Just watched the new super Ike gauntlet. Great video but 2 points of contention are that on my 2017 f350 the second air brake setting seems to keep my fifth wheel from gaining speed better than the first setting and the sound from my double moonroof is noticeably louder when the fabric is retracted. My buddy has a 2017 ram 3500 and I think the moonroof size comes into play when there is that much glass exposed for sound testing due to the Fords bigger size. Keep up the great work!
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Excellent testing guys. Great production.👏
Thanks
I’m not a “Ford/Chevy/Ram” guy so when I was looking for a new Diesel truck I compared all three meticulously and the Ford won out overall. Multiple test drives of all three and looking over the options, power, and accessories landed me on the Ford. Chevy wasn’t even in the running but Ram gave the Ford a good run for its money. Just had to go with what I felt was the better truck. And after owning the Ford F-250 for just a few months and pulling trailers constantly....I am NOT disappointed. Incredible truck.
Your head is up your ass cup cake!!! Ram trucks are totally better than Ford trucks, all steel, no aluminum foil, Ford trucks are totally weaker body wise, enjoy your junk Ford truck butter cup, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha and the Cummins engine's totally better engines!! Will out pull a Ford any day cup cake!!!
Never owned any thing but a ford my entire life. Now have 2 1500 ecodiesls and a 3500 Cummins. Wrote a check for all three so it wasn’t like it was about cost, all we’re special orders. Fords served me well and I don’t take anything from them, but for me I now prefer the Rams.
Odd...Chevy has the better frame, transmission, ride quality due to IFS, and a very reliable engine. Even the 6.7 Cummins had some growing pains. When all three trucks towed 15k the Chevy was the fastest and the fuel mileage was on par with the Cummins.
@@davidlasanen7690 You must be really proud of your daddy's Cummins, cause there's no way you're old enough to own one. No grown ass man talks that way. How old is you, 10?
Y'all should be a g56 manual transmission Ram I bet it would to impressive especially on the downhill engine brake
In my experience climbing Sunset point on I-17 in Arizona during the summer is much more of a challenge
Not sure how you couldn’t thumbs up this, a hell of a production to put these head to head fully loaded. This is so much harder to prep and film than it looks.
Inline 6 is a medium/heavy duty engine, the V configuration is a light duty engine. So congratulations you just compared a t Rex to a velociraptor.
Ugh..no
Very cool, was hoping you'd do a comparison with those two at max weight instead of lowered to the Duramax capacity.
I had a 1994 Ford F-350 Dually with the new power stroke diesel. I was a flooring contractor at the time. I had a 36' flat bed goose neck trailer. Doing schools at the time. Two trucks showed up with two schools of flooring. Dropped them both at the one school. Not only was my truck a diesel but also had a 2000k lbs western hauler bed on it and it was a standard transmission. We loaded that second truck on my flat bed at a total gross of 38,900 lbs. Let out the clutch and she took off. Never even knew it was back there till I tried to stop. I pulled over 20k all the time at 75-80 mph down I20. She never bucked at all. Ford back then was awesome
Awesome video guys nice job
I would probably care more about this test if I could afford either one... $80,000 for a TRUCK???
You make that back and more in one year working commercially.
buy a used one for 55k instead.
80000 is what it's worth
$98K in Canada.....
You get what you pay for. Price could probably be reduced if you got rid of a lot of the federal regulations.
Both great trucks and I own a 6.4 ford but I LOVE the Cummins 6, my son had one, cannot wear them out. Ram for me next.
htbud11 Traded in my 08 F450 for a 16 RAM 3500, i love the Cummins!
Fantastic video. I've always wanted to see if these trucks could tow these weights in the real world...turns out they can!
They say” they don’t make ‘em like they use to!” Yeah, that’s true. These new 2500/3500 are absolute Trains compared to the trucks back in the day. Can only imagine how strong they will get in the future. Sweet video TFL team!
The Raminator!!!!
Can't wait to see how the new 3500 does.
Ram came out with 1,000 pound-feet TQ for 2019. Ford's sitting back licking their "Godzilla" teeth for 2020.
Apples to apples AND lots of weight?! I know it’s hard to make that happen and it’s so awesome you did it. Thanks!!
This was a great video thanks guys!
I really like the ram and if I ever got one I would try getting the 6 speed manual version with the 6.7 diesel engine.
John Maccoy it would be interesting to see the G56 tested. It won’t win any races, but still fun to see.
And you get a much detuned truck with a manual!!!!!!!!!!!
Justin Thurman yeah still rated at 350/660 or something like that.
It may be detuned but it also has much less drivetrain loss at the wheels. I'd like to see the actual HP and torque difference at the wheels.
js9234 it doesn’t matter, they don’t perform anywhere near as well as the automatics. Diesels do really well with automatics. If you are driving it empty, you will use 2nd to get going, then 4 slow long shifts to get to 6th (compared to a car) and you will be in 6th by 35mph (unlike a car). Anything over that, and definitely over 40mph, there are no more gear shifts. Then you’re doing higher rpm on the highway, when you wish the rpms would drop like the automatic. So it’s way slower accelerating. Not as nice on the highway, and you don’t really get the opportunity to enjoy shifting like you do with a sports car, through the corners because you won’t be downshifting on those roads.
I guess those Ram guys who say..... The straight 6 pulls better and better when you throw weight on her aren’t so full of it. Great video. I get why you all have begin to cut them down length wise. I miss all the commentary during the runs. I want to soak up as much of Mr. Trucks knowledge as I can.
Quote of the year so far.......
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Beautiful, amazing, strong TRUCKS
Great Video with great Trucks and a great test. Can you also test the GMC Sierra 3500?
May I suggest adding a category to your scoring.
I suggest you include average cost of maintenance in a year.
That might sway a consumers decision.
James Croteau hard to do with a new model truck, those would only be estimates, with no real life comparison.
James Croteau TFL has explained why they don't do maintenance or reliability testing. I tend to agree with them because i want to see head to head tests. There are other places to find durability/reliability info
The the FORD would come in dead last. You have to pull the cab to do any amount of serious work on that truck.
dddire straits You do with any truck dumbass. Try to put injectors in any newer truck also why my 6.7 powerstroke has no issues but my buddies 6.7 Cummins has had 2 transmissions and has had turbo issues
Would be a good category to have
Great comparison! I still prefer the ram especially the suspension and interior.
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It's mostly about looks is why people prefer the ram trucks aren't ment to look pretty ment for working
@@MrMsMexican You realize it's possible to build a good pickup that also looks nice. It's called modern engineering. Your logic is flawed that because one company was able to design a more ascetically pleasing truck that it must be less reliable. Like for instance the Ford built tranny and Engine, no Thank you. Had the Ford instead incorporated the better looking more modern interior you wouldn't be complaining or using it as a negative. Reason being, your a Fanboy.
The front grill on the F-350 reminds me of the older Lincoln navigators because of the cross bars
The goose neck trailer does a great job of showing the ability to haul weight. It would be nice to see one with a large loaded toy hauler. Show how the trucks deal with sway and the frontal area.
Own a f250 SD it’s holding up well.
Had a 2014 Ram550 service Truck it was having issues and it was dealer maintained. I have a 2019 f550 and the ride is better in the dodge, pulling 12-
15000lbs the Dodge seemed to handle it better. Interior goes to Dodge but the Ford has better seats. We’ll see.
Bought a 18 ram 3500, coming from the legendary 7.3. I've always driven Ford's. 7 main bearings on the Cummins vs 5 on the powerstroke. One main bearing sits between each connecting rod. Tons of grunts, with fewer moving parts. I drive the Cummins. It's going to outlast the stroker hands down. Look under the hood. The Ford looks like a rat's nest. The Cummins is clean and easy to work on without pulling the cab. That's the seller for me.
Good choice. When I parted ways with my 7.3, I went to Dodge. So many times over the years, I have thought about how much of a disaster it would have been if I had gotten into the 6.0 and 6.4 Powerjokes. But that Navistar 7.3 was a great mill, that's for sure. My only gripe back than, was the fact that I hated the soft Ford chassis. Back then I wished I could have had a 7.3 in a GMC. But for me, it's Ram going forward.
Agreed, the last version of the 7.3 was pretty darn reliable, but totally outclassed in power now.@@AB-80X
GREAT job! Review was fair and unbiased!
Yes!!! Make those trucks sweat!! The last test with the Chevy was great but I loved seeing these trucks loaded to the max.
good comparison, great video guys.
Those trucks are so close that if your spending the $60 grand or more, get the one that is more comfortable to you. Fords tend to have better seats and interiors, but the Cummins engine is hard to beat when towing.
LOL, FORD having the better Interiors? I think you are confused. Go look online at high quality pics of the interior. If you talk to anyone who knows about picks ups the very first thing they say about the RAM is how it's the most beautiful interior they have ever seen on a pickup. There is no comparison. Now if you meant you like having messaging seats that is different.
Paul J I’ve sat in both plenty of times and I’ve always thought ford has the nicest interiors of any truck
@@beanrefraction9530 Not in the last 3 years. Even the die hard ford guys admit, RAM Limited or Longhorn has the best since 2017. Look at it this way, competition is good. This will force FORD to step it up in the interior. In the End we the consumers win.
Ford is better and I own all three drw super duty 2018’s and I hate ford. Blis, adaptive cruise, bigger back seat, power extending mirrors etc. now the 2019 ram is nice but gm and ford are going to tow better at end of 2019
That makes no sense whatsoever 😂. The thing that these videos don't capture is how they will hold up over time and I can assure that ram will hold up better than any ford other than a 7.3 powerstroke.
“we always grease our balls”
I can't say Ford wins but I still pick that as my choice of truck
Bought a 2006 Ram 2500 5.9 Cummins last year. Should be paid off by the end of this year. I couldn't do that on an 80k truck. I love my truck!
Great test! I love watching these Ike Gauntlet videos, I think they're great, and let me live my daydream...
I think the next step in the evolution of this test is to use the cruise control to control the speed of the truck going up and down the hill. All of the manufacturers have cruise control systems that not only will try to maintain your speed going uphill, but will downshift and even use the engine brake (exhaust brake) to help control the speed down the hill.
This would mean starting at the next exit before Silverthorne so that you can have the cruise set at 60 and let the truck do its thing over the hill, and set at like 50 or 45 coming out the tunnel so that it can have a bit of leeway for the engine brake. In this way, other than steering, the truck is truly doing everything, and that would be a better test.
Well done video! This is for all the babies that whine about a test not being quite apples to apples. That Ram has an absolutely beautiful interior. Even the gauge cluster is gorgeous.
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Both great trucks. 2 seconds = statistical equal. 2.4 v 2.7 mpg- statistical equal. One more break application = statistical equal. Multiple runs would have to be done to get a clear “winner.” Cant really go wrong with either truck.
The Real John Smith Agreed. We can start seeing price wars soon. Hopefully. Chase the incentives, not the specs.
dchawk81 In Canada Ram offers the Cummins at no extra charge so they can sell the trucks.
benjaminwayneb Thats great. But how long can they sustain that model and still be profitable?
The Real John Smith They Can't, that's why Fiat Can't find a buyer for Ram/Chrysler.
Ford sells more trucks than Chrysler sells vehicles....there is a reason for that.
Shoutout to for for the new F-250 and up headlight design. Having both top and bottom lights on (non-LED) assures me that no matter what beam setting, I'm always blinded when one is behind me at night..
Great video
I have a 2019 F350 and tow a 40ft 5th wheel Ill keep my Ford
GM get out of the way the real trucks are coming.
funny it had a quicker time up this same pass.
How to break a truck: put 30k pounds behind the shitty frame that these geniuses make over an extended period of time. Last good pickup ever built was 2016 ford with the thick and classic C channel frame. It doesn't matter that ram and ford can tow more. All 3 frames are made out of super thin shit steel that collapses/rusts away once you put it under pressure. Whoopie. My truck can tow 30k pounds. Guess what my truck can do! Last longer than a year towing its max load.
Ford all dat
GM isn’t that much better
Lol
You can’t go wrong with either truck. I’m a Ram guy. Gotta go with that. I love these comparisons. That’s what you’ve got know. You can look at numbers all day but there test are everything.
Great video. I love these super duty trucks but a new one is out of my budget. One of these days I will have one as a grocery getter.
The truck driver came out of Mr.Truck even being a Ford guy. The Straight 6 is king for towing heavy loads period......😊 Great review. I knew who the winner would be when it got to maxing out the trucks capacities.
Actually, it's just cheap. Only reason it's used by sled pullers.
Freddie Causey hell yea brotha
I6 vs V8, the V8 always wins in the speed department is equally powerful and stock, because the I6 doesen't rev as high. But im a Cummins guy. When they pull lighter trailers the Ford always wins, because it can go faster in the same gear.
Thats why I like my 300ci straight six in my '96 f150. I really hope the straight 6s make a comeback for gas.
I'm not sure what the hell you're talking about. They stated that they were wide open. There was no lugging the motor or turning the fan on. The fan comes on when the computer that Ford programmed tells it to. As for lugging it, they were wide open and again the computer that Ford programmed choses the gear and lockup settings. The Ford should have done better and it also isn't because it's a V8. The I6 has a slight advantage with heat, but that is really about it. Under normal towing that isn't a huge grade and for that amount of time the Ford would likely do better, but it didn't.
two great trucks, I would take the Ford purely on looks
I would take ford my man that thing wont break it the best
@@jzcar2150 I would take the Ram the Ford is fugly.
@@chonasimpson6487 From 1 year ago I regret my comment it seems like i really bragged on how i said ford is the best but my honest opinion both or all trucks are good it does not depend on the brand all the time it just how its built and stuff You know what i mean I love Ram I love Chevy and I love ford but if you want Ram that's your choice nobody stoping you :).
Both great trucks I own a 2017 f350 with 85000 miles I’ve had 2 issues 1 the aluminum wheels have had to be replaced since they don’t hold air.They leak down 10-15 psi and you have to add air to them,2nd the check engine light came on at 75000 miles which is as a sensor in the def tank which went back out a few days later.Other than that no issues.Tires holding air now.Upgrades s to the truck are s&b cold air intake and 3 afe aluminum covers for motor transmission and rear end.I can attest that the covers work cooling down the temperature’s 10-15 degrees.The oil can get as high as 247 on a hard pull may have to upgrade to a mpd aftermarket oil cooler.Also added SUMO SPRINGS which work great for squat and handling just don’t use the spacers they will fold underneath being to long.They need to take a chunk out of them to fit the shakes better when they come down like the stock bump stocks.
I have a 2017 F350 dually extended cab 6.7 4.10 rear end XLT 4x4. It has 40,000 miles, tows a 6000lb sliding axle dual axle trailer, with 8,000-14,000lbs of load weight daily 5 days a week. No issues yet, tows this weight with ease all over New England roads. Very impressed with the towing capabilities and thus far reliability if this truck. I do agree everyone of these type of trucks should have air ride to level out the truck and trailer. Perhaps once these rear shocks wear out I'll convert over to an aftermarket air ride system.
I'll be honest! The new Ford Super duty looks nice! I saw a Platinum F450 at my local lot, and it was beautiful! Platinum white, with a brown/reddish interior! However...if a truck can't be reliable, then what's the point?!? The company I work for , had a fleet of 20 Ford F550's. They lasted less than 2 years. Turbo issues and engine issues. They all got switched out for Ram 5500's. No issues after 3 years.
Majority of trucks that hot shot and are wreckers are RAMS. Ford diesels are a PITA to work on. Traded my PS in for a RAM and don’t have any regrets, the RAM pulls great.
This just proves that the 2020 Ram HD is gonna be a serious contender.
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fishgill0890 im waiting on that egr free design. This beast is going to DESTROY the competition!!!
I could go either way I love both trucks they both are amazing and very capable and this video shows that, they are nearly identical. I cannot wait to see what Ram does with the redesign coming if they make it as nice as the new 1500 Ford and Ram will be even closer in comparison.
Great comparison, it sucks that this gets lost in the comments below thanks to the brand loyal folks. And for the people knocking GM for not being able to tow this much Mr. Truck himself said he was a bit nervous towing that much weight.
Two great American trucks, but I would still take the Ford F350 over the Ram 3500 HD! If you're going to spend that type of money, I'll go with the more modern truck with the better tech. And I'm sure the Ford F350 will continue to improve as competition stiffens.
Yet you ignore real word experience. How is it more modern when it's interior and ride quality is behind the RAM. These are called modern tech, it seems your definition is limited to gadgets. Oh and those messaging seats with eventually break down. Next we have the Engine and there is no competition there. The Cummins diesel with out last that Ford. Far as I can see they both offer additional advantages in different areas. Oh and then you have to deal with the reliability of the Ford made transmission while the RAM gives you the Japanese AISIN tranny that is tried, tested and true. After all you are only spending $80,000
At over 80k to purchase and fuel mileage still around 2-3mph.... I mean at this point a semi makes a lot more sense
RGJ58 you may have something there! However, towing a 15k 5th wheel with my RAM I average 9 to 10 on most trips which for me includes a combination of flat towing and mountains. They got 2-3mpg towing 30k up a killer hill, nothing gets good mileage doing that, but when you average it with real world weights (for most of us anyway) with real world driving they do pretty well; and yes the prices are crazy! Your only hope is to get at least 250,000 miles out of them which should be no problem...
artillerybuff2000 very good point, I guess in a rush to judgment it is in fact basically petal to the floor up a 7 percent grade or something like that they said. So if your getting the mileage you report it’s not nearly as bad. My thinking at the time was wow you can tow double maybe triple what they have loaded and still get 3-4 mph with a semi.
This is literally the harshest test to put these through so 2-3 mpg is not normal by any means
Real world price with an msrp of 80k is about 62k. The only thing when working any of these pickups hard, in the heat, is the rear differential. All these manufacturers have stepped up their power to semi-like levels, but still run 11.8-12" ring gears, and these diffs get HOT! Oil goes into thermal runaway. I have monitored pinion bearing area temps on an 11.8 AAM and saw 300 deg at one point. Black asphalt, hot sun, minimal airflow, and heavy loads.
I have owned owned both f350 and ram 3500 and I like them both. They both have done their job. I am pushing 26,000 when I am on the road and I am looking at getting a new one here in a few months and not sure how I am going this time. On the f350 I have to put air bags on to carry my camper and pull are big horse trailer. The ram has the air system already but its going to come down to who going to give me the best deal.
I agree that the RAM is a better truck. I drive a 2007 3500 and added air ride suspension to level the ride (I bought the truck used), and I also added an exhaust brake. I find that the breaking on a steep downhill is not excessive, and it also extends brake lining life. Because the RAM came with a standard 35 gal fuel tank, I added an auxiliary tank (50 gals) and tripled the distance between fuel stops.