So called dating bans cause more harm than good. Idols are human too, they deserve to have normal relationships and date openly if they wish to do so and it should not be at the expense of their careers
@@cosas_de_gatosThey are idols. They sign for this & should know the rules & contract! So don't make your own selfish rules the will harm the company like this idols dating alot she is sl*t! & company will get those kind of persisting issue which is pain in the azz
@@cosas_de_gatosThey are idols. They sign for this & should know the rules & contract! So don't make your own selfish rules that will harm the company like this idols dating alot, she is sl*t! & company will get those kind of persisting issue which is pain in the @zz to solve
Im p sure i remember jyp saying back in the day that the reason he has the 3 year dating ban is to concentrate on their career which that i get but it still fosters such a bad fan environment
Western dating: THEY’RE DATING! CUTE! K-Pop idol dating: THEY’RE MINE! The standard🙄 Edit: Guys I meant Western as in the artists😭 When western artists date, they’re most of the time are complimented. While K-Idols are criticised. Not how the fans react. But the generality of how the fanbase reacts. That includes all races.
I saw a Giselle and mark lee doing a dance challenge the comments from international and korean fans were so different. Korean fans were like " you can dance (Giselle) together by not being too close " "Maintain distance" And offcourse the international fans were chill . I swear korean fans are extra level delusion
@@nuclearclarity3778I know but majority of the time Korean artists fans are more harsh since in Asian culture itself it’s foreign to date (kinda a ancient mindset thing) while western it’s normal. So even if they date and rumours happen, the amount of people that’ll actually hate them for it isn’t as much as Korean artists.
@@Mediacore1dating itself is partly foreign for Asians. Must’ve been the culture shock hitting I guess😭 but Asians/Korean fans do act like idol are puppets the most. Mainly Korean. I’m mixed Asian and the amount of people willing to hate is more than can imagine
Dating bans are the reason why fans are so delusional and why toxic shipping exists, hyunjin from stray kids said on a live that he wants to date but is scared of fans reaction jhope said a similar thing. But i think also when you first start your career that should be your main focus but their shouldn't be a ban on it, and restricting male and female interactions makes things worse for both men and women. Im also seeing a lot more male and female idols talking about having children so i think kpop idols are now telling us as fans we are grown men and women and we want partners and children
No, the problem is the judgment of the choice of partner. Remember, these are celebrities. They can attract good people as well as bad people. They will have to be careful otherwise their careers will end
@idontknow9357 that's a completely different situation, she knew of his involvements in the burning scandal and the enabling of rape and violence against women hyuna is rightfully judged and I allowed to get the backlash idc
@@Xela20j They must protect their careers. No, It's hypocrisy Otherwise After me I don't care, it's their private life ____________ For junhyung It's not burning Sun but the molka cat group . He is involved as a witness in the case And he did not receive a rape video (The video in question was of JJY kissing a woman in a bar and she put her his hand on "a certain part of his anatomy".) video of a woman from a bar. the video was taken with the woman's knowledge and consent, but that she did but that she did not consent to it being shared. Sbs fune admitted to editing the image and want to include. But that has nothing to do with it
Removing dating bans wouldn't change the minds of some overly obssessive fans now honestly . It's the mindset of those so called fans that should be changed who think the idols owe them their lives
It’s a start though. The crazy fans will hopefully fade away eventually. Artists should just use Jisoo example she just anounced it and everyone still love her.
The crazy fans will get less and less when more idols are openly dating, especially the ones who aren’t even fans yet. Imagine if those crazy fans got into kpop at a time where all idols dated openly?
@@tiw5143 she announced it and even said when it was over with a nice word from YG to support her. Takes strength to do that. I was never happy with the companies portraying artists as sexy, unattainable, eternal virgins. Money making was their only motive.
Idols deserve to live as humans. Kpop is a lot more professional and high quality than other markets but idols are still human and I'm glad some things can change
If the dating ban gets removed entirely idols will finally have a fanbase without delulu stans thinking they got a chance bc the idol is "single", true fans support their idol even if they're dating(unless they're dating a bad person like Hyuna is, valid reason to stop supporting)
People aren't hating on Hyuna for dating. They are hating on her for dating a garbage person (I wont call him criminal, but that doesn't mean he is not garbage@@idontknow9357
not everyone is goin around dating ppl directly involved in the Burning Sun Scandal... Hyuna also knows damn well wht she is doin is wrong cuz she had to make a whole post on insta to address her relationship cuz ppl were literallynlike wtf. no one is being a hypocrite if the situations are so blatently different @@idontknow9357
@@yasminchan7425 the thing that makes me the most angry is that it's a girlfriend from bloody high school, like?? These fans are acting like they don't have crushed or boyfriends waiting for them somewhere. It's such clown behaviour
It's not like the rumors and the nonsensical hate are from the company🤷🏻♀ it's the so called "fans" who need a reality check. Ppl must stop stopping idols from dating, at least those who are over 25
They already date even when they’re trainee and after they debut. They all date. Companies say just don’t get caught. Older idols mentioned it on tv shows about how when they were young how they dated secretly. They’d give each other numbers between the albums or other ways at music programs. Also since most of them go to Hanlim or Seoul performing arts schools they already know each other from school or have mutual friends
Bruh, I'm so tired of this dating ban, it's fucking inhumane, I swear. I'm glad that it might be reconsidered because it makes me so sad that several of my faves got married in secret because they were scared of backlash. Kpop stans shouldn't have to be taught that idols have feelings and need to express them. And can they *stop* treating dating like a scandal and just report on it like normal news because that's feeding into the delusion 💀
Dating ban is something that'll never change cuz companies know damn well that their whole business will fall if they allow it cuz fans who think they have a chance with their idol will literally to anything even as far as harming the ones who are dating their favs and eventually the company will have no choice but to force their idols to break up
Kpop is becoming more and more global and most of us find it weird that idols are not allowed to date. It's such a normal thing to do. Also I always find it strange how idols sing about love but they're not allowed to love. Makes their music less genuine.
THe sad true is unless fans stick their head out of their behinds and realize they do not own other people, idols won’t be able to date or even display their friendships openly. You are ok with sexualizing them but clutch your pearls and dust off your wip and demand the idols to go back to the fields because you saw them talking to each other? Think you owned their time, mind, and body? People are disgusting.
Even tho i looove kpop music and their artists so much, they deserve FREEDOM. I wish we had so many more random interactions between male/female idols and them even following each other on Instagram, them casually going on dates and everyone being open and comfortable while talking about the person they like/love. Kpop industry needs this and i do hope we see change and fans finally normalizing this.
It's good thing that idols can do do what they want to do and now no one can stop them from expressing their feelings I know it's not good for rookie idols bcz it could affect their reputation but older idols not going to affect by it so I'm happy to know that now companies are supporting about it and have no issues like before
I want my favorite kpop idols to date freely and if they want they can share their dating pics on social media, I'll be more than happy to see them happy with their love ones😭🤧❤❤😍🥰
In my opinion, the more idols openly date, the less of a big deal it will be, and the more psycho fans will just have to accept it and maybe be less pyscho lmao
And what do you do if the girl/boyfriend goes crazy? Want him/her to leave the group?? Etc In fact everything is possible but the problem will be the judgment of the partner. Fans will be too invested in the relationship until it becomes marketing Quite frankly I don't want a Korean version of Selena/Justin Don't forget that they are celebrities, they can attract bad people too
@@idontknow9357 ...Have you just like, never heard of celebrities dating? It's normal almost everywhere except South Korea. I guess you're one of the crazies lmao. It's insane of you to try to restrict their rights due to your own paranoia. Seriously crazy.
@@spectral__ 💀 m'y god , Why are you inventing a life for me??? Do you have any comprehension problems? Reread my comment And no, in most jobs there are rules it's just that love affairs and work don't mix. You must be the type of person who judges people
@@idontknow9357 I didn't invent anything lmao. My reply is based on your comment, which, by the way had little to do with my comment. So it's hilarious you'd question my reading comprehension. I never even said date each other to begin with. I just said openly date. Can be whomever they want, celebrity or not. You made up your own meaning lol Everyone judges everyone. It's human nature. You're basically saying I must be the type of person who is a person. Please get educated lmao
@@spectral__ No, you're talking about psycho fans and openly date In your first comment. but even going out without them, can run into someone bad Fame attracts people who want a trophy too (I am replying to you) And Then you make things up for me, I never said they shouldn't just be careful . You need to reread what you wrote after my comment ( I don't know where you're But the mentality is different from one country to another ) I'm talking about idols, fans will judge their partners . That's why I said be careful for them Hyuna is a good example
Unfortunately, the idol industry capitalizes off of delulus fantasies so getting rid of dating backlash and scandals completely will be impossible unless the all of the fans expectations change and the companies stop encouraging it. I personally want happiness for my idols so if they want to date and get married or just meet people and make friends no matter what gender then fantastic!! Also I feel like its a bonus if my favs have kids maybe we'll get some future stars in a, hopefully, healthier and happier kpop industry. We need to stop promoting such a toxic environment where idols basically need fan and company permission to blink.
Totally agree. Companies benefit in terms of profits a lot from delusional fans. For example, a normal K-pop fan will buy one album while a delusional fan will buy an entire box of albums. This benefits the companies while it hurts idols mentally and socially. Like every industry, it's all about making big money. These companies only want power and control over their artists and profit off of it.
Idols should definitely be allowed to date -- even openly, if that's their choice. Fans will eventually get over it (they'll have to). If some don't, oh well. Younger kids will grow up being used to idols dating, which may help decrease fan toxicity 🤞
How many people do you want them to date? Otherwise people will talk behind (They can also set a bad example) They are celebrities, as a group. The choice of partner has a consequence or they will be judged. And anyway, it's difficult to find someone who really suits us. It takes time and investment
That's disgusting.. they are humans not machines and if they are real fans they would be happy for them regardless!! They deserve love and happiness outside of performing.. after all they been thru to become a idol and what they go thru now with their crazy schedules they deserve to have friends or more.. I mean they have male and female idols under one company it's gonna happen idk why it's a problem..the male idols that I really like if they got girlfriends I would be happy for them long as they were happy
If this is true, finally freedom for these boys and girls and for their personal lives. They have a right to it, they have a right to be happy without hiding and without having to apologize for their relationship!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🥳🥳🥳🥳❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
dating was never ban in kpop .. it just they need to hide their relationships just for some toxic fans mostly boy groups( ex bts) bts members can't date openly just bcz of toxic fans who think their idol as their husband , boyfriend etc..on the other hand girl groups members can date openly bcz almost all gg fans are fangirls even some of them are fanboys but not toxic .. according to me , those fans should stop thinking their idols as their husband and bf ..just bcz of them idols can't interect with each others openly , can't eye contact with each others .. {THOSE ARMY 💜 WHO ARE WAITING FOR BTS MEMBERS GF FACE REVEAL ( including me) } 👇
It's not a big problem for female idols if they are dating non idol or idols with delusional fans.When 2 members of a girl group revealed their dating,their albums sales increased instead of decreasing.Their fandom is also korean male dominating❤.But if you take boy groups with korean female dominating,then their will decrease whenever they announce their dating.
@@thulasibai6136 female grp fans are not toxic + their fanboy aren't not crazy almost all gg fans are female . but male grps can't coz some baby fans consider them as their husband ..
@@Latatayeonials Girl groups with korean male dominating receive less hate and more support.Girl groups with male dominating fandoms like twice,snsd etc dated and dating publicly,they still have huge male fans and didn't receive trucks like boy groups.Twice's album saled increased after their dating confirmation.They mostly get hate if they are dating idols with huge delusional fans.But male idols always receive huge hate even if they date non idols.If you watch street interview of koreans about idol's dating,you can see them saying that fanboys of girl group don't care about dating much now but female fans of boy groups still care about their love life.Two girls said that their oppas can date but secretly otherwise they feel betrayed.Enhyphen received trucks for having female dancers.Another thing is that many girls stan boy groups just to sexualize them with their band members.Gay services among boy groups also add fuel to this delusions.So they get trigged/mad like Y/n stans when they reveal their dating/marriage with an opposite sex.Example,when an exo member revealed his girlfriend,there were comments under his gf's posts like:No,he is gay,leave him alone he is gay.I also saw toxic comments from yn stans and gay shippers under a korean interview of bts where they talking about their future wives.I think they want them as gays so they will not go for another women.If iu and jisoo was dating a male idol,they would also receive hate.Hope boy groups also get courage like female idols to date publicly and receive support♥️.
@@Latatayeonials As you said, bts especially the maknae line has lot of unhealthy gf stans and gay fetishisers.Jungkook had a gf in high school,they broke up due to his training.V had a crush on a girl when he was in high school.They both even talked about having female partner and kids.Bts introduce themselves as brothers and family.Even their gay shippers flirt,have strong skinship,act romantic with their close same sex friends.But they create fake gay edits of taekook and it circulate in internet.It's like disrespecting both homosexuals and heterosexuals.
As a new K-pop arrival I keep getting culture shocks. Some control freakery fans literally act like the most invasive spouse/parent of the idol. They spend $200/month on this idol on the screen so they get to own the idol's body parts? Am I in a music shop or purity shop?
I feel even they have dating ban..they still dating each other secretly. I feel so many thing kpop fans don't know behind the door. I bet most of kpop group dating
While Western celebrities can write and sing about their intimate relationships, Kpop idols will lose respect and popularity for these types of romantic scandals. Having a relationship in the spotlight doesn't necessarily mean happiness, especially when dealing with media and toxic fandoms. These celebrity relationships often turn toxic and can significantly impact their well-being. I do not think there was ever a dating ban. that is one of those written rules no one gives a shit about. idols all do it they just don't get caught with the help of their companies.
Fans can be soo delulu, it hurts... They need seriously to touch grass and have some fresh hair before they loose the last straw of mental sanity they have. Also, I love YG's responses. Giving soo much father vibes, like: "...ask your mother"
It's just private. Kfans usually know everything about meeting their idols, they just like them to stay quiet and separate from their work. Then also that we leave the couple alone . Some Ifans (Kfan also yeah) had big mouths who couldn't keep their mouths shut about anything. Also at least some ifans are from cultures that are over-invested in the private lives of stars. Their reactions to dating news won’t always be respectful. Celebrities can hide their relationships if they want. The press helps them stay relevant and dating rumors/drama is part of marketing for many of them
When v and jennie got dating rumours,they got a huge support korean fans.Even many korean non were excited.But they received hate from International young girlfriend stans and gay shippers who want him gay.As you said,Some koreans even saw v and jennie together in cafes.
THE REAL QUESTION IS …. will the kpop world start using relationships as PR moves to hide bigger scandals like the entertainment industry does in the west ?
I saw street interviews of koreans about dispatch.Most of them are saying that dispatch will suddenly reveal a secret Kpop couple who are secretly dating to cover up serious and political issues.Then most of the Korean people focus on that idols and forget about the issue.
JYP's comment about how his album sales went down when he revealed his relationship, is actually very telling and honest. He's saying that dating hurts the bottom line of the company.
As far as i remember jackson from got7 once said that he had a gf when he was a trainee and she suddenly left him and all. I dont think jyp was ever that strict when it comes to this.
FINALLY IT HAPPENED!Idols deserve the freedom to date and fans have no right to send protest trucks and boycotting idols just because they are in love just like humans!bruh people who do this like u give ur opinion ok fine but dont send protest trucks and crap like u dont know how many idols are dating in realty and just hiding it so just MIND YOUR FREAKING BUSINESS!
To be honest idols should be able to date if they want people can’t always control what the idols do when they open up about now , this is why idols don’t really open up when they are dating because people are just really jealous they can’t be a relationship with their favorite idol and want them out of the group not cool people should support and respect them even when they are dating.. I will talk about this on my TikTok when I get a chance and other stuff to
cmiiw but i remember an SM idol once said Lee Soo Man encouraged SM idols to date another SM idol cause it would be easier to manage. I think it was Heechul that said it, post Kai x Krystal and Baekhyun x Taeyeon dating eras in mid 2010s.
regarding what Jessica said, 'it's easier if the company knows about it' - the company's power also plays a huge role. If she came from a mid or small size company, it'll be harder
Imagine expanding beyond your target market and only adapting to accommodate them years later. Sloppy business tactics to focus on arguably one of the least problematic issues, we'll see if this breathes a wave of change or if it's a once off.
bye so many idols got kicked and ruined because of dating and now they are lifting it? why was the ban even there in the first place- this industry is questionable tbh idols lost their careers because dating. it should not have been there in the first place honestly
Hopefully, things are changing. Finally, this is coming to an end. If fans don't like it, who cares, it's not about them anyways... if they don't like it, they can leave.
For female idols, its better not to date until their career are stabilized. Although its not like we really fantasize these idols but its hard to look at them once we knew they have boyfriend.Idols are different from artist.Idols are more on interacting with the fans while artist are more on talent.
@@BELIEVER78989It's because female idols get more hate... Like, if they want to date right after debuting, it's ok, it's their lives. But it'll do their career so much bad (although even male idols would get such a big blackash for dating right after debut). Their choice? Yeah, but if I had a idol friend, I would advice them to either wait a few years after debuting or date in secret... For their own mental health
@@everyonesdream.Female idols don't always receive huge hate for dating if they are dating a non idol or idols with less delusional fans.But when it come male idols,they get always receive huge hate even if they date a non idol women.When 2 remember of popular girl group in korea with korean male dominating fandom revealed their dating,their albums sales instead of decreasing.But when a exo member got wife,he received huge backlash.Even his kid received deathreates and protest trucks.If you watch street interview of koreans about idol's dating,you can see them saying that fanboys of girl group don't care about dating much now,but female fans of boy groups do.Enhypen boy group received trucks for female dancers from korean female fans.Now foreign stans also getting inspiration from this.
@@thulasibai6136 Thanks. I think I need to research a little more then. It's just that... When it comes to dating scandals, the first things that come in mind are the Jennie x Kai and Jennie x V ones (although Jennie and V never confirmed dating, that was definitely a dating scandal)... And despite Kai and V receiving blackash too, I think Jennie received a lot more. But there's Jisoo's case too. She dated a actor but didn't receive much blackash. As you said, that was probabily because she dated an non-idol
I always thought Jpop and Kpop were weird for trying to create and promote these weird parasocial relationships with people because it only makes the fans feel like they own the idol and have a say in what they do in their personal life
Yes it's normal to date..idols should be given freedom and respect to whomever they love.. agencies should treat their idols as humans not a monetary machines
Dating should be normal...Idols shouldn't have to give up their future just to be an idol. Fans need to appreciate the craft of the Idols and not any romantic unattainable, fictitious relationship...its not healthy for the fans or the idols.
I think rule of NOT DATING made people stick to that concept even if their favs are dating..like if that rule didn't exist in the first place..I think idols could have a normal life too and it's 2024,i hope people have change in their mentality regarding idols dating
damn the drop in korea's birthrate had some really good side effects too, atleast in the case of korea's sickening work culture and idol relationship... kpop developed from music to a medium of visual and time pass medium not tryna shade anything but.. at the end of the day their main job is creating music just like anyother job, i do listen to kpop but some things are kinda sickening.. i think treating them as an artist is better then treating them as the perfect embodiment idol. Its good to see that companies will not interfare with their relationships and i hope that mature fans will continue support them as an artist. Although no one might notice my comment but if you do i hope i was able to express my thoughts through this. Have a nice day ahead~
It’s about damn time!Companies need to change their rules about dating in order to the public and society to change their mind on dating. I think this rule is obsolete… l don’t really understand this rule. Thus fans will love idols as idols not as their boyfriend or girlfriend.
Idols deserve to have happy and normal relationships because they are humans too, a lot of idols have said they have wanted to date but are scared of the toxic and possessive fans. Those particular fans need to stop being childish and grow up because you are just fans not anything else, you will always be labeled as a fan not anything more.
3:02 i actually feel like jyp is one of the best companies and that park jinyoung actually truly cares about his idols ofc there is some stuff with examples ice cube momomdiet but she chose her diet and he only said yeah loose this amount of weight otherwise you won’t debut but there he also at some point made sure she won’t get hate and also that the group is still in the K-pop image
In general I feel like the big three are the most genuine concerns about their idols I don’t know why but I just got this feeling that they care the most abt their trainees and idols
Don't forget Bobby and his letting us know suddenly he was to be a father and husband soon. I didn't see much hate going towards him for it. I full support idols dating, marrying, and starting families while keeping their careers. Just because they are with someone doesn't mean their talent goes away and they can no longer do what they were doing. Maybe this normalization of it will cut down on the fanatic fans who become so dang delusional about their faves being only for them.
They need to just start revealing and normalizing relationships to desensitize the audience to it a little at a time. Stop reacting to fan complaints over it. Instead, even when there isn’t a ban, they tend to hide it or pressure them out of it anyway. Being “iffy” about it and not confirming nor denying is helpful, but it still gives off the idea that it’s “wrong” or “scandalous”. I suppose it’s better than forcing apologies and breakups though. It’s truly no one’s business. The parasocial is relied on far too much for a music industry…In a way, a lot of it is closer to a host club and rentable bf/gf who performs. Sigh.
I'm glad that they're changing policies about dating because it will remind the local fans that their idols are humans and not objects to be gatekept. It will allow them to move on and be normal people for once because fantasies can cause more harm to a fanbase. Where do you think sasaengs came from? Dating bans also enable them to act the way they do, believing that they always get what they want.
It’s really difficult for idols in SK. Even if they are allowed to date it could ruin their career. So keeping it secret would be the best idea. But this is surely difficult and they all have quite full schedules. Being an idol is often not funny at all 🤷🏻♀️.
I love your content, but please bring back the old goodbye phase. I can't understant when the video ended is it end or the internet is gone. They end so sudden and feels weird to me
@KOOKIELIT, i’m glad that the three companies YG, JYP and SM have lifted their dating ban lowering It from five years to three years, oh that’s JYP rules. I’m not sure about SM because I noticed their older Groups 2nd GEN like Super Junior I don’t hear too much about their dating I know that Shindong has dated in the past & Siwon too. Are any of the 2nd Gen married yet in SM entertainment? I know from TVXQ Max did get married this past year, but I’m talking about super junior?! I don’t know what’s going on as far as their relationships but they’re in their 30s and 40s now! They haven’t had much of an experience in dating because of the restrictions that the K-pop companies put on them! I can understand that if you have a very young K-pop idol group and they’re under the age of 20 and they’re just starting out do you want them to concentrate on their performances and work or them having a relationship could be difficult that especially in the beginning ! The entertainment companies have to see if the The group becomes successful ! You sign a contract so you better know what you’re signing if there’s restrictions no smoking in public or no smoking at all No drinking no tattoos no dating you better make sure you understand that it may be unfair but for the young debut K-pop idol groups I think that’s a good thing the first two years are the most crucial to see how successful they become if they do become successful? And you didn’t mention anything about HYBE labels their stance on dating?
From 2nd Gen, there is a member of Super Junior who is married, he is Sungmin, he's more active as a soloist, he's still on hiatus from Super Junior activities due to some toxic Elf's (Elfs is Super Junior fandom name, I'm referring to toxic elfs not true elfs), he's a human too, some of these toxic Elfs still wanted him out of Super Junior but hell no way SM would kick him out, just like they want Chen out of EXO just because he's married.
@zacharikurbah6358, Oh yes I’m fully aware about the those two Fandoms I have been following Super Junior since 2006 so I know about the toxic fans EXO -Ls are so toxic they were out in front of SM burning Chen his solo CDs and had a truck in front of SM stating that he needs to leave the group because he’s destroying their image by being married and having children!!! And I noticed that the only three members of Super Junior Leeteuk, Shindong, Siwon are the only ones that are making Super junior subunit LSS , with other members going to do solos but are they still part of and Super Junior group ? I don’t know what the hell SM is doing with their groups but they’re definitely screwing things up they’re going through a litigation of company control because Kakao is thinking about selling their stocks to somebody else to a software company called NCsoft that make video games! I read this article and I just said what the heck is going on? I already know about EXO and how several members are doing their own company for instance BAEKHYUN! It’s kind of confusing to keep up with everything that’s going on between SM, YG, JYP, and HYBE Labels was not mentioned and they’re a big conglomeration and I think they’re bigger than SM and YG put together! now I don’t know about JYP but HYBE they have so many groups and so many companies underneath them subsidiaries ! To tell you the truth when I first started getting into K-pop back in the early 2000s things seemed a lot less complicated!? lol 😂
@@laurahilliker5336 Yeah, I saw the news about Kakao trying to sell SM to NCsoft, I don't know what the hell is happening, it's karma, I guess, they ousted Lee SooMan first and now they taste karma, even Yoo Youngjin, the main producer in SM has also left the label after the way the management went with the SM 3.0
@tiw5143, well if this TH-cam channel wants to concentrate only on the Big 3 K-pop companies that’s totally her way of not including HYBE labels because they are the fourth in the big companies conglomerates of South Korea ! A matter of fact they are bigger than SM & YG entertainment companies! I’m just stating some facts here she needs to have included HYBE because everybody is cutting out HYBE because they know that they’re overtaking everything not just in South Korea but internationally throughout the United States BTS especially the main contributor and money source is still making money even though all 7members are in the military! I don’t know if this TH-cam channel reads articles pertaining to Kpop conglomerates in Forbes magazine !? but SM is in big trouble we thought YG was in big trouble SM is losing so badly in the stock markets people are not investing in these two companies as much as they are JYP and HYBE! She definitely needs to do some information about HYBE because I’m sure there’s a lot of information that a lot of people don’t know! Inquiring minds want to know more about HYBE!
@tiw5143, The big three K-pop companies are not the big three anymore it’s the four! And it just proves how South Korea is inclusive to those three companies only and never talks about the other company that is making South Korea economy grow expeditiously and I would sure like to know more about HYBE and they’re dating and other k-pop group regulations!
The fans were already toxic way before the dating ban was created or enforced. Fans need to go outside, touch some grass, and work on their limerence and emotional codependency issues. It's giving desperate and insecure vibes. It's 2024. Being a Pick Me girl/guy should have been left in 2023.
Yep no more bans but will the fans be accepting? I really wish an idol comes out successful even after revealing they're dating someone. The problem is companies relying on these delusional fans ready to consume anything for profit over producing better songs.
This is gonna be real tricky if you have a boygroup that is mostly followed by female fans, and a girlgroup thats mostly followed by male fans. Although in the 2020s there are no more girlgroups that most of their fans are males like in the 2010s Its easy for members of BlackPink to date openly since most of their fans are girls
But they have a huge male fanbase in korea.when jisoo revealed his bf,most of their male fans are very supportive.Also when 2 members of another girl group revealed their dating,their albums sales increased instead of decreasing.Their fandom is Korean male dominating.If you watch street of koreans about idol's dating,you can most of them saying that fanboys of girl group don't care about dating much now but female fans of guy idols do.Enhypen boy groups received protest trucks for having female dancersfrom korean female fans.If korean female fans become better like male fans of girlgroups,then they don't need to fear to date publicly.
I understand if there is a dating ban the first few years. As i know idols work so hard and need to be focused on establishing their careers. But after that, they should be able to date. I think its strange for some fans to thknk they shouldnt date. But at the same time continue to be in the group for years and years. Everybody is entitled to a life ❤❤❤
Why separate them based on their genders? I also see this as a win for the trainees who are closeted or secretly LGBT+ in the same room who makes out behind their back 😂 so there is no point in separating genders like it still the golden century.
@@valorie444 Do you know them personally or something now that you've said? 🤔 I don't think so. Nowhere have majority of the idols ever said they're straight. It all about marketing to a target audience they're going for and maintaining a make-believe image.
@@valorie444 Let me ask you something - If I was forced to be a cisgender heterosexual women for the fame and money, who is actually a lesbian, will you still believe I'm straight when I could have a girlfriend and faking to be straight because it actually pays me good money thanks to rich homophobes?
To an extent I’m really happy that idols are having more freedom and can now be able to openly date but the other side of me can FEEL the toxic, delusional kpop stans sending death threats and overall being extremely jealous for whatever reason 💀. And seeing how crazy people are becoming, I’m really afraid of what could possible happen by this ban being lifted…
You know, I always thought the dating ban existed because of what happened to that rookie idol who was murdered and the prime suspect was his girlfriend at the time? As for JYPE, I personally called theirs a "dating probation" since it does get lifted after a few years. The issue is trying to undo that "fantasy sale" of single/pure idols. Maybe that's why they debuting minors? Who knows. I'm cynical.
Well this is the craziest thing they could do,....I see Careers failing and the quantity of performances dropping and Only going to make it worst, be more like a bad sitcom or tabloid story ........ and inappropriate pictures and comments (worst than now) Plus it never (well almost never) works for actors, other Idols, musicians what ever the case....There have been bands, groups and Solo careers ruined because they thought found true love .... Then comes the You have Been Cheating on Me Claims and Kpop will suffer and the Stans also
Absolutely unnormal and unhuman policy. Idols are also people and should be able to love and date. How else should the artists make art? Without love? Ridiculous.
Actually dating ban isn't always a bad thing. Considering the young age of idols that currently debut it's better to protect them from people who may try to use them under pretense of dating. It's not like their world will end just because they can't date for 3 years, rigt? When they're old enough just let them do whatever they want.
To be honest being an idol is definitely better than being a fan. Yes it's acknowledged that they trained so hard to be in that position but fans didn't get the money out of thin air.. in the end fans get nothing and idols gain everything. Then they get to be in a relationship. If they don't keep it a secret it's a bitter pill to swallow. It's like having a crush on someone who already has a partner. Fans had it worse because they spend ridiculous amount of money. 😅😅
I do'nt think lifting the ban will help Idols . The toxic fans and the length Idols have to go to to keep fans happy is absurd .companies have made Idols go to far to keep fandoms interested. The Idols will never have a normal life because the fans demand so much constant content the dont have any time to live a somewhat normal life whether there is a dating ban or not . The way that the company works to keep them relevant is toxic in itself . The music should speak for itself without working Idols to the ground to keep them in the spotlight
So called dating bans cause more harm than good. Idols are human too, they deserve to have normal relationships and date openly if they wish to do so and it should not be at the expense of their careers
Idols need to sing and rap as artists first
@@himankmaheshwari2097?? Idols do not need to earn basic human rights, such as having relationships 💀
@@cosas_de_gatosThey are idols. They sign for this & should know the rules & contract! So don't make your own selfish rules the will harm the company like this idols dating alot she is sl*t! & company will get those kind of persisting issue which is pain in the azz
@@cosas_de_gatosThey are idols. They sign for this & should know the rules & contract! So don't make your own selfish rules that will harm the company like this idols dating alot, she is sl*t! & company will get those kind of persisting issue which is pain in the @zz to solve
@@himankmaheshwari2097are you brainless 😂
You can't force anyone to sing 😂
Thats their life and their job 😂 so they can leave when they want 😂
Dating bans foster fans toxic behaviours.
Do Not agree...........Only going to make it worst, be more like a bad sitcom or tabloid story
@@haroldk724Agree
STRAY KIDS THE KING OF KPOP
I think companies encouraging fans to have unhealthy relationships with idols does so
Im p sure i remember jyp saying back in the day that the reason he has the 3 year dating ban is to concentrate on their career which that i get but it still fosters such a bad fan environment
Western dating: THEY’RE DATING! CUTE!
K-Pop idol dating: THEY’RE MINE!
The standard🙄
Edit: Guys I meant Western as in the artists😭 When western artists date, they’re most of the time are complimented. While K-Idols are criticised. Not how the fans react. But the generality of how the fanbase reacts. That includes all races.
not entirely true, a lot of comments during dating rumors are in english too
I saw a Giselle and mark lee doing a dance challenge the comments from international and korean fans were so different.
Korean fans were like " you can dance (Giselle) together by not being too close "
"Maintain distance"
And offcourse the international fans were chill .
I swear korean fans are extra level delusion
@@nuclearclarity3778I know but majority of the time Korean artists fans are more harsh since in Asian culture itself it’s foreign to date (kinda a ancient mindset thing) while western it’s normal. So even if they date and rumours happen, the amount of people that’ll actually hate them for it isn’t as much as Korean artists.
@@Mediacore1dating itself is partly foreign for Asians. Must’ve been the culture shock hitting I guess😭 but Asians/Korean fans do act like idol are puppets the most. Mainly Korean. I’m mixed Asian and the amount of people willing to hate is more than can imagine
Thats why I prefer western (pop) fanbases all the way rather than kpop's.
Dating bans are the reason why fans are so delusional and why toxic shipping exists, hyunjin from stray kids said on a live that he wants to date but is scared of fans reaction jhope said a similar thing. But i think also when you first start your career that should be your main focus but their shouldn't be a ban on it, and restricting male and female interactions makes things worse for both men and women. Im also seeing a lot more male and female idols talking about having children so i think kpop idols are now telling us as fans we are grown men and women and we want partners and children
No, the problem is the judgment of the choice of partner. Remember, these are celebrities. They can attract good people as well as bad people. They will have to be careful otherwise their careers will end
@idontknow9357 well duh? We're human but banning relationships is inhumane
@@Xela20j Not everyone will be in a relationship. I'm not talking about banning.
Tell that to those who judged Hyuna and junhyung.
Reread my sentence
@idontknow9357 that's a completely different situation, she knew of his involvements in the burning scandal and the enabling of rape and violence against women hyuna is rightfully judged and I allowed to get the backlash idc
@@Xela20j They must protect their careers.
No, It's hypocrisy Otherwise
After me I don't care, it's their private life
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For junhyung
It's not burning Sun but the molka cat group .
He is involved as a witness in the case
And he did not receive a rape video (The video in question was of JJY kissing a woman in a bar and she put her his hand on "a certain part of his anatomy".)
video of a woman from a bar.
the video was taken with the woman's knowledge and consent, but that she did but that she did not consent to it being shared.
Sbs fune admitted to editing the image and want to include. But that has nothing to do with it
Removing dating bans wouldn't change the minds of some overly obssessive fans now honestly . It's the mindset of those so called fans that should be changed who think the idols owe them their lives
It’s a start though. The crazy fans will hopefully fade away eventually.
Artists should just use Jisoo example she just anounced it and everyone still love her.
The crazy fans will get less and less when more idols are openly dating, especially the ones who aren’t even fans yet. Imagine if those crazy fans got into kpop at a time where all idols dated openly?
@@tiw5143 she announced it and even said when it was over with a nice word from YG to support her. Takes strength to do that.
I was never happy with the companies portraying artists as sexy, unattainable, eternal virgins. Money making was their only motive.
It's a start at least, many delusional fans leave as soon as their idol is dating
@@yasminchan7425 hopefully
Idols deserve to live as humans. Kpop is a lot more professional and high quality than other markets but idols are still human and I'm glad some things can change
Yes and they should also be treated like humans,
Like how YG and HYBE are treating their idols and groups.
If the dating ban gets removed entirely idols will finally have a fanbase without delulu stans thinking they got a chance bc the idol is "single", true fans support their idol even if they're dating(unless they're dating a bad person like Hyuna is, valid reason to stop supporting)
You can't accept and then judge like with Hyuna. It's Hypocrisies otherwise
People aren't hating on Hyuna for dating. They are hating on her for dating a garbage person (I wont call him criminal, but that doesn't mean he is not garbage@@idontknow9357
not everyone is goin around dating ppl directly involved in the Burning Sun Scandal... Hyuna also knows damn well wht she is doin is wrong cuz she had to make a whole post on insta to address her relationship cuz ppl were literallynlike wtf. no one is being a hypocrite if the situations are so blatently different @@idontknow9357
THEN BRING BACK SEUNGHAN 😭😭
Literally, SM should have stood their ground and not let him go because now the "fans" are just as more bloody delusional 🤡
RIGHT LIKE
THEY DECIDE TO DO THIS THEY PUT HIM ON HIATUS
Agreed, I'm not a RIIZE fan but I want him back cuz I don't think he deserves to be kicked out of the group
@@yasminchan7425 the thing that makes me the most angry is that it's a girlfriend from bloody high school, like?? These fans are acting like they don't have crushed or boyfriends waiting for them somewhere. It's such clown behaviour
It's not like the rumors and the nonsensical hate are from the company🤷🏻♀ it's the so called "fans" who need a reality check. Ppl must stop stopping idols from dating, at least those who are over 25
25?? 😂😂
They already date even when they’re trainee and after they debut. They all date. Companies say just don’t get caught. Older idols mentioned it on tv shows about how when they were young how they dated secretly. They’d give each other numbers between the albums or other ways at music programs.
Also since most of them go to Hanlim or Seoul performing arts schools they already know each other from school or have mutual friends
@@aliciapark6241 oh yeah i'm aware, that's why i said it's the fans who should know boundaries
@@ro-zeea.8734 ?
wdym at least above 25?? idols should be allowed to date even if they are a teenager or in their early 20s just like normal people
Bruh, I'm so tired of this dating ban, it's fucking inhumane, I swear. I'm glad that it might be reconsidered because it makes me so sad that several of my faves got married in secret because they were scared of backlash. Kpop stans shouldn't have to be taught that idols have feelings and need to express them. And can they *stop* treating dating like a scandal and just report on it like normal news because that's feeding into the delusion 💀
Ikr
What the frick is a DATING SCANDAL????
Like can y’all treat it like normal celebrity news?
Jeez
Dating ban is something that'll never change cuz companies know damn well that their whole business will fall if they allow it cuz fans who think they have a chance with their idol will literally to anything even as far as harming the ones who are dating their favs and eventually the company will have no choice but to force their idols to break up
Kpop is becoming more and more global and most of us find it weird that idols are not allowed to date. It's such a normal thing to do. Also I always find it strange how idols sing about love but they're not allowed to love. Makes their music less genuine.
No, Imagination is enough .
Bingo!! Yes singing about love and romance but they seem lonely
How are these idols supposed to sing and write about romantic relationships without experiencing them??
Through Imagination.
Imagination is greater then experience 😊
@specter918 Agree
@@idontknow9357u don’t own your idols lmao
@@valorie444good I am not interested, You are off topic
Most of the idols don't even write their own lyrics tho, its the other producers🤷♀️
THe sad true is unless fans stick their head out of their behinds and realize they do not own other people, idols won’t be able to date or even display their friendships openly. You are ok with sexualizing them but clutch your pearls and dust off your wip and demand the idols to go back to the fields because you saw them talking to each other? Think you owned their time, mind, and body? People are disgusting.
Even tho i looove kpop music and their artists so much, they deserve FREEDOM. I wish we had so many more random interactions between male/female idols and them even following each other on Instagram, them casually going on dates and everyone being open and comfortable while talking about the person they like/love. Kpop industry needs this and i do hope we see change and fans finally normalizing this.
It's good thing that idols can do do what they want to do and now no one can stop them from expressing their feelings I know it's not good for rookie idols bcz it could affect their reputation but older idols not going to affect by it so I'm happy to know that now companies are supporting about it and have no issues like before
Good for them❤
Idols have lives too❤
I want my favorite kpop idols to date freely and if they want they can share their dating pics on social media, I'll be more than happy to see them happy with their love ones😭🤧❤❤😍🥰
In my opinion, the more idols openly date, the less of a big deal it will be, and the more psycho fans will just have to accept it and maybe be less pyscho lmao
And what do you do if the girl/boyfriend goes crazy? Want him/her to leave the group?? Etc
In fact everything is possible but the problem will be the judgment of the partner. Fans will be too invested in the relationship until it becomes marketing
Quite frankly I don't want a Korean version of Selena/Justin
Don't forget that they are celebrities, they can attract bad people too
@@idontknow9357 ...Have you just like, never heard of celebrities dating? It's normal almost everywhere except South Korea. I guess you're one of the crazies lmao. It's insane of you to try to restrict their rights due to your own paranoia. Seriously crazy.
@@spectral__ 💀 m'y god , Why are you inventing a life for me??? Do you have any comprehension problems?
Reread my comment
And no, in most jobs there are rules it's just that love affairs and work don't mix.
You must be the type of person who judges people
@@idontknow9357 I didn't invent anything lmao. My reply is based on your comment, which, by the way had little to do with my comment. So it's hilarious you'd question my reading comprehension. I never even said date each other to begin with. I just said openly date. Can be whomever they want, celebrity or not. You made up your own meaning lol
Everyone judges everyone. It's human nature. You're basically saying I must be the type of person who is a person. Please get educated lmao
@@spectral__ No, you're talking about psycho fans and openly date In your first comment. but even going out without them, can run into someone bad
Fame attracts people who want a trophy too (I am replying to you)
And Then you make things up for me, I never said they shouldn't just be careful .
You need to reread what you wrote after my comment
( I don't know where you're But the mentality is different from one country to another )
I'm talking about idols, fans will judge their partners . That's why I said be careful for them
Hyuna is a good example
Unfortunately, the idol industry capitalizes off of delulus fantasies so getting rid of dating backlash and scandals completely will be impossible unless the all of the fans expectations change and the companies stop encouraging it. I personally want happiness for my idols so if they want to date and get married or just meet people and make friends no matter what gender then fantastic!! Also I feel like its a bonus if my favs have kids maybe we'll get some future stars in a, hopefully, healthier and happier kpop industry. We need to stop promoting such a toxic environment where idols basically need fan and company permission to blink.
Totally agree. Companies benefit in terms of profits a lot from delusional fans. For example, a normal K-pop fan will buy one album while a delusional fan will buy an entire box of albums. This benefits the companies while it hurts idols mentally and socially. Like every industry, it's all about making big money. These companies only want power and control over their artists and profit off of it.
it was done for korean fans. now that kpop is worldwide it's going away.
Idols should definitely be allowed to date -- even openly, if that's their choice. Fans will eventually get over it (they'll have to). If some don't, oh well.
Younger kids will grow up being used to idols dating, which may help decrease fan toxicity 🤞
How many people do you want them to date? Otherwise people will talk behind
(They can also set a bad example)
They are celebrities, as a group. The choice of partner has a consequence or they will be judged.
And anyway, it's difficult to find someone who really suits us. It takes time and investment
@idontknow9357 However many or few they want (I know I'm viewing this through an American lens, though).
@@amiyarose9140 Yeah, it’s the difference in mentality that comes into play
How are they gonna write love songs if they can never be in love?
That's disgusting.. they are humans not machines and if they are real fans they would be happy for them regardless!! They deserve love and happiness outside of performing.. after all they been thru to become a idol and what they go thru now with their crazy schedules they deserve to have friends or more.. I mean they have male and female idols under one company it's gonna happen idk why it's a problem..the male idols that I really like if they got girlfriends I would be happy for them long as they were happy
7:46 well they got support from international fans but often not from knetizens
Thank god they got freedom🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
If this is true, finally freedom for these boys and girls and for their personal lives. They have a right to it, they have a right to be happy without hiding and without having to apologize for their relationship!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🥳🥳🥳🥳❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Good bcs dating is normal
Yes I am really happy to see this news
dating was never ban in kpop .. it just they need to hide their relationships just for some toxic fans mostly boy groups( ex bts) bts members can't date openly just bcz of toxic fans who think their idol as their husband , boyfriend etc..on the other hand girl groups members can date openly bcz almost all gg fans are fangirls even some of them are fanboys but not toxic .. according to me , those fans should stop thinking their idols as their husband and bf ..just bcz of them idols can't interect with each others openly , can't eye contact with each others ..
{THOSE ARMY 💜 WHO ARE WAITING FOR BTS MEMBERS GF FACE REVEAL ( including me) }
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It's not a big problem for female idols if they are dating non idol or idols with delusional fans.When 2 members of a girl group revealed their dating,their albums sales increased instead of decreasing.Their fandom is also korean male dominating❤.But if you take boy groups with korean female dominating,then their will decrease whenever they announce their dating.
@@thulasibai6136 female grp fans are not toxic + their fanboy aren't not crazy almost all gg fans are female . but male grps can't coz some baby fans consider them as their husband ..
@@Latatayeonials Girl groups with korean male dominating receive less hate and more support.Girl groups with male dominating fandoms like twice,snsd etc dated and dating publicly,they still have huge male fans and didn't receive trucks like boy groups.Twice's album saled increased after their dating confirmation.They mostly get hate if they are dating idols with huge delusional fans.But male idols always receive huge hate even if they date non idols.If you watch street interview of koreans about idol's dating,you can see them saying that fanboys of girl group don't care about dating much now but female fans of boy groups still care about their love life.Two girls said that their oppas can date but secretly otherwise they feel betrayed.Enhyphen received trucks for having female dancers.Another thing is that many girls stan boy groups just to sexualize them with their band members.Gay services among boy groups also add fuel to this delusions.So they get trigged/mad like Y/n stans when they reveal their dating/marriage with an opposite sex.Example,when an exo member revealed his girlfriend,there were comments under his gf's posts like:No,he is gay,leave him alone he is gay.I also saw toxic comments from yn stans and gay shippers under a korean interview of bts where they talking about their future wives.I think they want them as gays so they will not go for another women.If iu and jisoo was dating a male idol,they would also receive hate.Hope boy groups also get courage like female idols to date publicly and receive support♥️.
@@Latatayeonials As you said, bts especially the maknae line has lot of unhealthy gf stans and gay fetishisers.Jungkook had a gf in high school,they broke up due to his training.V had a crush on a girl when he was in high school.They both even talked about having female partner and kids.Bts introduce themselves as brothers and family.Even their gay shippers flirt,have strong skinship,act romantic with their close same sex friends.But they create fake gay edits of taekook and it circulate in internet.It's like disrespecting both homosexuals and heterosexuals.
@@thulasibai6136 its really bad to see that enhypen get hate just bcz that they need to dance with female backup dancers..
As a new K-pop arrival I keep getting culture shocks. Some control freakery fans literally act like the most invasive spouse/parent of the idol. They spend $200/month on this idol on the screen so they get to own the idol's body parts? Am I in a music shop or purity shop?
I feel even they have dating ban..they still dating each other secretly. I feel so many thing kpop fans don't know behind the door. I bet most of kpop group dating
While Western celebrities can write and sing about their intimate relationships, Kpop idols will lose respect and popularity for these types of romantic scandals. Having a relationship in the spotlight doesn't necessarily mean happiness, especially when dealing with media and toxic fandoms. These celebrity relationships often turn toxic and can significantly impact their well-being.
I do not think there was ever a dating ban. that is one of those written rules no one gives a shit about. idols all do it they just don't get caught with the help of their companies.
This is actually a good news ♥️ thank god the companies are finally treating them like a real human beings 😭♥️
People who are defending idols, fyi idols do date whoever tf they want, they don't care about the rules lol. Some fans are annoyingly delulu.
Fans can be soo delulu, it hurts...
They need seriously to touch grass and have some fresh hair before they loose the last straw of mental sanity they have.
Also, I love YG's responses. Giving soo much father vibes, like: "...ask your mother"
what u mean dating ban? snsd open up about their relationship since their early days
It's just private.
Kfans usually know everything about meeting their idols, they just like them to stay quiet and separate from their work.
Then also that we leave the couple alone .
Some Ifans (Kfan also yeah) had big mouths who couldn't keep their mouths shut about anything.
Also at least some ifans are from cultures that are over-invested in the private lives of stars. Their reactions to dating news won’t always be respectful.
Celebrities can hide their relationships if they want.
The press helps them stay relevant and dating rumors/drama is part of marketing for many of them
When v and jennie got dating rumours,they got a huge support korean fans.Even many korean non were excited.But they received hate from International young girlfriend stans and gay shippers who want him gay.As you said,Some koreans even saw v and jennie together in cafes.
@@thulasibai6136 so V and Jennie things are real?
THE REAL QUESTION IS …. will the kpop world start using relationships as PR moves to hide bigger scandals like the entertainment industry does in the west ?
Jenkai comes to mind💀🌚
I saw street interviews of koreans about dispatch.Most of them are saying that dispatch will suddenly reveal a secret Kpop couple who are secretly dating to cover up serious and political issues.Then most of the Korean people focus on that idols and forget about the issue.
JYP's comment about how his album sales went down when he revealed his relationship, is actually very telling and honest. He's saying that dating hurts the bottom line of the company.
As far as i remember jackson from got7 once said that he had a gf when he was a trainee and she suddenly left him and all. I dont think jyp was ever that strict when it comes to this.
FINALLY IT HAPPENED!Idols deserve the freedom to date and fans have no right to send protest trucks and boycotting idols just because they are in love just like humans!bruh people who do this like u give ur opinion ok fine but dont send protest trucks and crap like u dont know how many idols are dating in realty and just hiding it so just MIND YOUR FREAKING BUSINESS!
To be honest idols should be able to date if they want people can’t always control what the idols do when they open up about now , this is why idols don’t really open up when they are dating because people are just really jealous they can’t be a relationship with their favorite idol and want them out of the group not cool people should support and respect them even when they are dating.. I will talk about this on my TikTok when I get a chance and other stuff to
They said kai was a taxi drivers 💀
cmiiw but i remember an SM idol once said Lee Soo Man encouraged SM idols to date another SM idol cause it would be easier to manage. I think it was Heechul that said it, post Kai x Krystal and Baekhyun x Taeyeon dating eras in mid 2010s.
As a fan it’s delusional and idiotic to not know that when an idol says “I love you” it’s not romantic so them having a partner should not matter.
regarding what Jessica said, 'it's easier if the company knows about it' - the company's power also plays a huge role. If she came from a mid or small size company, it'll be harder
On Rora's Solo performance in "Last evaluation" YG commented that he's "still against having a boyfriend".
I was actually surprised when i got to know there's a thing like dating ban in kpop that exists....like what -
Imagine expanding beyond your target market and only adapting to accommodate them years later. Sloppy business tactics to focus on arguably one of the least problematic issues, we'll see if this breathes a wave of change or if it's a once off.
bye so many idols got kicked and ruined because of dating and now they are lifting it? why was the ban even there in the first place- this industry is questionable tbh idols lost their careers because dating. it should not have been there in the first place honestly
As a fan 🎉🎉Finally we can get 3rd gen and 2nd gen sisters in low 😅😊
Hopefully, things are changing. Finally, this is coming to an end. If fans don't like it, who cares, it's not about them anyways... if they don't like it, they can leave.
I thought JYPs made sense, solidifying your career first. It being public also put a thin shield on artists the first few years
Personally if I saw my favorite idol happy in a relationship, getting married and making a family I would be tha happiest fan ever
For female idols, its better not to date until their career are stabilized. Although its not like we really fantasize these idols but its hard to look at them once we knew they have boyfriend.Idols are different from artist.Idols are more on interacting with the fans while artist are more on talent.
you don’t own these women cry about it
Then why not the male idols too, they need their fans too, your double standard is staggering💀😂
@@BELIEVER78989It's because female idols get more hate... Like, if they want to date right after debuting, it's ok, it's their lives. But it'll do their career so much bad (although even male idols would get such a big blackash for dating right after debut). Their choice? Yeah, but if I had a idol friend, I would advice them to either wait a few years after debuting or date in secret... For their own mental health
@@everyonesdream.Female idols don't always receive huge hate for dating if they are dating a non idol or idols with less delusional fans.But when it come male idols,they get always receive huge hate even if they date a non idol women.When 2 remember of popular girl group in korea with korean male dominating fandom revealed their dating,their albums sales instead of decreasing.But when a exo member got wife,he received huge backlash.Even his kid received deathreates and protest trucks.If you watch street interview of koreans about idol's dating,you can see them saying that fanboys of girl group don't care about dating much now,but female fans of boy groups do.Enhypen boy group received trucks for female dancers from korean female fans.Now foreign stans also getting inspiration from this.
@@thulasibai6136 Thanks. I think I need to research a little more then. It's just that... When it comes to dating scandals, the first things that come in mind are the Jennie x Kai and Jennie x V ones (although Jennie and V never confirmed dating, that was definitely a dating scandal)... And despite Kai and V receiving blackash too, I think Jennie received a lot more.
But there's Jisoo's case too. She dated a actor but didn't receive much blackash. As you said, that was probabily because she dated an non-idol
I always thought Jpop and Kpop were weird for trying to create and promote these weird parasocial relationships with people because it only makes the fans feel like they own the idol and have a say in what they do in their personal life
Yes it's normal to date..idols should be given freedom and respect to whomever they love.. agencies should treat their idols as humans not a monetary machines
Dating should be normal...Idols shouldn't have to give up their future just to be an idol. Fans need to appreciate the craft of the Idols and not any romantic unattainable, fictitious relationship...its not healthy for the fans or the idols.
I think rule of NOT DATING made people stick to that concept even if their favs are dating..like if that rule didn't exist in the first place..I think idols could have a normal life too and it's 2024,i hope people have change in their mentality regarding idols dating
It'll take long time to normalize on fan base, but companies should lift those dating ban rules
damn the drop in korea's birthrate had some really good side effects too, atleast in the case of korea's sickening work culture and idol relationship...
kpop developed from music to a medium of visual and time pass medium not tryna shade anything but.. at the end of the day their main job is creating music just like anyother job, i do listen to kpop but some things are kinda sickening.. i think treating them as an artist is better then treating them as the perfect embodiment idol.
Its good to see that companies will not interfare with their relationships and i hope that mature fans will continue support them as an artist.
Although no one might notice my comment but if you do i hope i was able to express my thoughts through this.
Have a nice day ahead~
It’s about damn time!Companies need to change their rules about dating in order to the public and society to change their mind on dating. I think this rule is obsolete… l don’t really understand this rule. Thus fans will love idols as idols not as their boyfriend or girlfriend.
Idols deserve to have happy and normal relationships because they are humans too, a lot of idols have said they have wanted to date but are scared of the toxic and possessive fans. Those particular fans need to stop being childish and grow up because you are just fans not anything else, you will always be labeled as a fan not anything more.
3:02 i actually feel like jyp is one of the best companies and that park jinyoung actually truly cares about his idols ofc there is some stuff with examples ice cube momomdiet but she chose her diet and he only said yeah loose this amount of weight otherwise you won’t debut but there he also at some point made sure she won’t get hate and also that the group is still in the K-pop image
In general I feel like the big three are the most genuine concerns about their idols I don’t know why but I just got this feeling that they care the most abt their trainees and idols
Don't forget Bobby and his letting us know suddenly he was to be a father and husband soon. I didn't see much hate going towards him for it. I full support idols dating, marrying, and starting families while keeping their careers. Just because they are with someone doesn't mean their talent goes away and they can no longer do what they were doing. Maybe this normalization of it will cut down on the fanatic fans who become so dang delusional about their faves being only for them.
Your responsibility as the company is to take care of these toxic fans and take action when they go absolutely crazy.
They need to just start revealing and normalizing relationships to desensitize the audience to it a little at a time. Stop reacting to fan complaints over it. Instead, even when there isn’t a ban, they tend to hide it or pressure them out of it anyway.
Being “iffy” about it and not confirming nor denying is helpful, but it still gives off the idea that it’s “wrong” or “scandalous”. I suppose it’s better than forcing apologies and breakups though. It’s truly no one’s business.
The parasocial is relied on far too much for a music industry…In a way, a lot of it is closer to a host club and rentable bf/gf who performs. Sigh.
I'm glad that they're changing policies about dating because it will remind the local fans that their idols are humans and not objects to be gatekept. It will allow them to move on and be normal people for once because fantasies can cause more harm to a fanbase. Where do you think sasaengs came from? Dating bans also enable them to act the way they do, believing that they always get what they want.
It’s really difficult for idols in SK. Even if they are allowed to date it could ruin their career. So keeping it secret would be the best idea. But this is surely difficult and they all have quite full schedules. Being an idol is often not funny at all 🤷🏻♀️.
I love your content, but please bring back the old goodbye phase. I can't understant when the video ended is it end or the internet is gone. They end so sudden and feels weird to me
Lol. Those dating bans don't do anything. They still sneaking around but who cares really. It's their personal life.
@KOOKIELIT, i’m glad that the three companies YG, JYP and SM have lifted their dating ban lowering It from five years to three years, oh that’s JYP rules. I’m not sure about SM because I noticed their older Groups 2nd GEN like Super Junior I don’t hear too much about their dating I know that Shindong has dated in the past & Siwon too. Are any of the 2nd Gen married yet in SM entertainment? I know from TVXQ Max did get married this past year, but I’m talking about super junior?! I don’t know what’s going on as far as their relationships but they’re in their 30s and 40s now! They haven’t had much of an experience in dating because of the restrictions that the K-pop companies put on them!
I can understand that if you have a very young K-pop idol group and they’re under the age of 20 and they’re just starting out do you want them to concentrate on their performances and work or them having a relationship could be difficult that especially in the beginning ! The entertainment companies have to see if the The group becomes successful !
You sign a contract so you better know what you’re signing if there’s restrictions no smoking in public or no smoking at all No drinking no tattoos no dating you better make sure you understand that it may be unfair but for the young debut K-pop idol groups I think that’s a good thing the first two years are the most crucial to see how successful they become if they do become successful?
And you didn’t mention anything about HYBE labels their stance on dating?
From 2nd Gen, there is a member of Super Junior who is married, he is Sungmin, he's more active as a soloist, he's still on hiatus from Super Junior activities due to some toxic Elf's (Elfs is Super Junior fandom name, I'm referring to toxic elfs not true elfs), he's a human too, some of these toxic Elfs still wanted him out of Super Junior but hell no way SM would kick him out, just like they want Chen out of EXO just because he's married.
@zacharikurbah6358,
Oh yes I’m fully aware about the those two Fandoms I have been following Super Junior since 2006 so I know about the toxic fans EXO -Ls are so toxic they were out in front of SM burning Chen his solo CDs and had a truck in front of SM stating that he needs to leave the group because he’s destroying their image by being married and having children!!! And I noticed that the only three members of Super Junior Leeteuk, Shindong, Siwon are the only ones that are making Super junior subunit LSS , with other members going to do solos but are they still part of and Super Junior group ? I don’t know what the hell SM is doing with their groups but they’re definitely screwing things up they’re going through a litigation of company control because Kakao is thinking about selling their stocks to somebody else to a software company called NCsoft that make video games! I read this article and I just said what the heck is going on? I already know about EXO and how several members are doing their own company for instance BAEKHYUN! It’s kind of confusing to keep up with everything that’s going on between SM, YG, JYP, and HYBE Labels was not mentioned and they’re a big conglomeration and I think they’re bigger than SM and YG put together!
now I don’t know about JYP but HYBE they have so many groups and so many companies underneath them subsidiaries !
To tell you the truth when I first started getting into K-pop back in the early 2000s things seemed a lot less complicated!? lol 😂
@@laurahilliker5336 Yeah, I saw the news about Kakao trying to sell SM to NCsoft, I don't know what the hell is happening, it's karma, I guess, they ousted Lee SooMan first and now they taste karma, even Yoo Youngjin, the main producer in SM has also left the label after the way the management went with the SM 3.0
@tiw5143, well if this TH-cam channel wants to concentrate only on the Big 3 K-pop companies that’s totally her way of not including HYBE labels because they are the fourth in the big companies conglomerates of South Korea ! A matter of fact they are bigger than SM & YG entertainment companies! I’m just stating some facts here she needs to have included HYBE because everybody is cutting out HYBE because they know that they’re overtaking everything not just in South Korea but internationally throughout the United States BTS especially the main contributor and money source is still making money even though all 7members are in the military! I don’t know if this TH-cam channel reads articles pertaining to Kpop conglomerates in Forbes magazine !?
but SM is in big trouble we thought YG was in big trouble SM is losing so badly in the stock markets people are not investing in these two companies as much as they are JYP and HYBE! She definitely needs to do some information about HYBE because I’m sure there’s a lot of information that a lot of people don’t know! Inquiring minds want to know more about HYBE!
@tiw5143, The big three K-pop companies are not the big three anymore it’s the four!
And it just proves how South Korea is inclusive to those three companies only and never talks about the other company that is making South Korea economy grow expeditiously and I would sure like to know more about HYBE and they’re dating and other k-pop group regulations!
The fans were already toxic way before the dating ban was created or enforced. Fans need to go outside, touch some grass, and work on their limerence and emotional codependency issues. It's giving desperate and insecure vibes.
It's 2024. Being a Pick Me girl/guy should have been left in 2023.
Yep no more bans but will the fans be accepting? I really wish an idol comes out successful even after revealing they're dating someone. The problem is companies relying on these delusional fans ready to consume anything for profit over producing better songs.
This is gonna be real tricky if you have a boygroup that is mostly followed by female fans, and a girlgroup thats mostly followed by male fans.
Although in the 2020s there are no more girlgroups that most of their fans are males like in the 2010s
Its easy for members of BlackPink to date openly since most of their fans are girls
But they have a huge male fanbase in korea.when jisoo revealed his bf,most of their male fans are very supportive.Also when 2 members of another girl group revealed their dating,their albums sales increased instead of decreasing.Their fandom is Korean male dominating.If you watch street of koreans about idol's dating,you can most of them saying that fanboys of girl group don't care about dating much now but female fans of guy idols do.Enhypen boy groups received protest trucks for having female dancersfrom korean female fans.If korean female fans become better like male fans of girlgroups,then they don't need to fear to date publicly.
I understand if there is a dating ban the first few years. As i know idols work so hard and need to be focused on establishing their careers. But after that, they should be able to date. I think its strange for some fans to thknk they shouldnt date. But at the same time continue to be in the group for years and years. Everybody is entitled to a life ❤❤❤
I would love if idols could date freely
6:35 yes dating statements are THE BEST not even joking I personally would love this company for that
Why separate them based on their genders? I also see this as a win for the trainees who are closeted or secretly LGBT+ in the same room who makes out behind their back 😂 so there is no point in separating genders like it still the golden century.
Ur so right😭😭
@@andrixcx These homophobic conservatives' mind isn't that smart like they say they do but honestly this so funny 😏😂
true but a lot of their group mates are also homophobic and not everyone is gay (majority of ppl are straight)
@@valorie444 Do you know them personally or something now that you've said? 🤔
I don't think so. Nowhere have majority of the idols ever said they're straight. It all about marketing to a target audience they're going for and maintaining a make-believe image.
@@valorie444 Let me ask you something - If I was forced to be a cisgender heterosexual women for the fame and money, who is actually a lesbian, will you still believe I'm straight when I could have a girlfriend and faking to be straight because it actually pays me good money thanks to rich homophobes?
That sucks considering back then they used to show how yg artist used to interacted with their other yg members : (
Korean and other Asian countries might not like it. Ok for me but don't want to know who they are dating. Keep it private please, it's better.
Same 👍 For protection, I prefer to keep it private
To an extent I’m really happy that idols are having more freedom and can now be able to openly date but the other side of me can FEEL the toxic, delusional kpop stans sending death threats and overall being extremely jealous for whatever reason 💀. And seeing how crazy people are becoming, I’m really afraid of what could possible happen by this ban being lifted…
You know, I always thought the dating ban existed because of what happened to that rookie idol who was murdered and the prime suspect was his girlfriend at the time?
As for JYPE, I personally called theirs a "dating probation" since it does get lifted after a few years.
The issue is trying to undo that "fantasy sale" of single/pure idols. Maybe that's why they debuting minors? Who knows. I'm cynical.
Desprate fans indeed that they fall for someone who won’t look at them in a dating manner 😂😂😂
Well this is the craziest thing they could do,....I see Careers failing and the quantity of performances dropping and Only going to make it worst, be more like a bad sitcom or tabloid story ........ and inappropriate pictures and comments (worst than now)
Plus it never (well almost never) works for actors, other Idols, musicians what ever the case....There have been bands, groups and Solo
careers ruined because they thought found true love .... Then comes the You have Been Cheating on Me Claims and Kpop will suffer
and the Stans also
Totally Hear You ..ty @@idontknow9357
Kylie Jenner isn't an artist 😂😂
She is a model 😂
She can buy your bloodline 😂
@@siddhartharya1750what her being rich got to do with anything
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Absolutely unnormal and unhuman policy. Idols are also people and should be able to love and date. How else should the artists make art? Without love? Ridiculous.
2:49 guess you could say JYP is a......CHANGED MAN😏
Actually dating ban isn't always a bad thing. Considering the young age of idols that currently debut it's better to protect them from people who may try to use them under pretense of dating. It's not like their world will end just because they can't date for 3 years, rigt? When they're old enough just let them do whatever they want.
FINALLY🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 OH FINALLY
i think they all should be allowed to date when they turn 23, fully matured and ready.
They should change rules for Idols😒
Leave them alone
If this is true, I’m really happy! It gives creepy, possessive stans a reality check, that they shouldn’t feel like idols are ours.
0:22 whats going on with lily skirt yo 😭😭😭
It's unhealthy and stupid to promote a dating ban because it promotes dangerous behavior for the sake of money.
I hope it happens honestly they're not getting younger and some want kids so
To be honest being an idol is definitely better than being a fan. Yes it's acknowledged that they trained so hard to be in that position but fans didn't get the money out of thin air.. in the end fans get nothing and idols gain everything. Then they get to be in a relationship. If they don't keep it a secret it's a bitter pill to swallow. It's like having a crush on someone who already has a partner. Fans had it worse because they spend ridiculous amount of money. 😅😅
I do'nt think lifting the ban will help Idols . The toxic fans and the length Idols have to go to to keep fans happy is absurd .companies have made Idols go to far to keep fandoms interested. The Idols will never have a normal life because the fans demand so much constant content the dont have any time to live a somewhat normal life whether there is a dating ban or not . The way that the company works to keep them relevant is toxic in itself . The music should speak for itself without working Idols to the ground to keep them in the spotlight