Qidi Tech i-fast Review
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- Hello, 3D Printing friends! Today we're going to check out an ENORMOUS 3D printer, the Qidi Tech i-fast.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
01:09 Printer Features
03:48 User Guide and Videos
04:38 Printer Setup Overview
05:20 Test Prints
08:02 Two-Material Printing
09:03 Troubleshooting Layer Shifts
11:05 Two-Material with PVA Supports
12:02 Camera
13:43 Spool Flanges Missing
14:16 USB Port Placement
15:00 Final Thoughts
16:12 Closing - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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for the price that the printer costs to acquire, whether it is private or for a company, you don't get many smart features and autobedleveling should at least be standard and especially on printers in that price range, other printers you can buy in the same price range have more offer and yes one of them even has a corexy system and request slicer and access to the printer via either PC or mobile.
It's a beast! Thanks Bryan, as always, great review!
Thanks Brian fantastic and honest review can’t get no better!
Thanks for another great, honest review, Bryan.
Thank you for the great information, I look forward to the next one. Certainly a nice printer but I would probably go with a Babu X1 carbon instead. Keep the signal 📶 going strong 💪 ✌️ 👍 🇺🇸 😎
that thing is HUGE!!!! Not so much on print volume though. However, at least it has an active heating chamber. Not that I actually need it. Most certainly there are consumers for that kind of printer, but I´m not one of them.
Maybe if it was cheap? I'd rather my money go towards an X1 carbon 😁
It's almost 2023: lacking ABL is a deal breaker in this day and age.
The Bambu Lab X1 puts a lot of other printers to shame, add this one to the list.
whats abl?
@@officialspock Auto Bed Leveling
You don’t need it. You level it once and it doesn’t change for months…
@@coryturner9140 The name is probably confusing you because it has the word "leveling" in it. As everybody knows, ABL doesn't "level" the bed.
"Automatic Runtime Topology Micro-Adjustments Calibration System" better describes it, but ABL rolls of the tong better. And yes you do need it after you've properly leveled your bed.
@@mururoa7024 it’s just a senor that adjusts the z axis to adjust for small discrepancies in the bed. lots of printers run without needing abl. I know what it does… is it nice, yes but it’s not mandatory, it still prints just fine. Should a $2200 printer have it? Yes, most certainly. It’s like a $30 add on for a $300 printer.
looks big! huge! beast! U did good Bri !!
Thank you!
Thank you. It's not often that there is a video that is informative and entertaining. 😃
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi Bryan! I ended up purchasing a QIDI MAX 3 based on build envelope, heated chamber, material selection, auto-leveling, price point, and overall reviews. It's seems that there is no "perfect" printer (yet) that checks every box, but this one checked the most. I'll be keeping an eye out for any information or videos you might be sharing, as I now subscribe to your channel. Feel free to check out my channel for Sunset Engineers, my design firm that is still in the infancy stage, but growing everyday. More importantly, I am truly enjoying myself, along with my Team and clients, which means a high quality of life for all. ☺
Great review, love the dad jokes😂😂
Thanks! 😁
I really enjoyed the video and particularly the honesty. I really would love a dual extruder, predominantly for soluble supports but have not found an effective one yet, and your video clearly was very informative. I also want to move away from bed slingers and your videos of the Bambu range again was very helpful. I would love to see your take on the Qidi-X Max3 as I am considering either the Bambu or the Qidi-X Max3
Thank you so much for the great 👍🏼 review. What does the first layer look like? Is it even, or are there imperfections?
Frankly looking at that thing I was worried it was going to fall over and hurt you.
LOL, I fully expected you to find the errors and host an honest review. I primarily use it in single extruder mode for the build volume and heated chamber. It's not an electrically retracted type dual but it works once you understand it's quirks. Like you say, let's go print something cool.
That's what I suspect a lot of people get this machine for: The build volume and the actively heated chamber. I think the extruder lift mechanism is pretty clever.
A great review Bryan! I noticed the sticky-out USB stick straight away which bolsters your comment about this issue, maybe a 90° adapter could solve this issue for owners of this printer, but that is imaterial for me as my money would not get spent on this machine, it would be spent on a true fast machine like the Bamboo Lab X1 Carbon once I have weighed up the pros and cons between the Prusa XL and the X1, its a pity as this printer could have been so much better for very little money.
Awesome Video as always Bryan, as for the Qidi i fast I would have to say no thank you. It's a nice printer but there really isn't anything that makes me want to run out and buy this. Especially now that Bambu Labs has just kicked the 3D industry in the face. Qidi needs to get busy with this printer and add real features.
Agreed. The features are all but useless. I'll say thanks, but no thanks to the qidi i fast. Pretty underwhelming on all fronts. Thanks again Brian
@@TheZombieSaintsactive chamber heating is a huge feature of you play with decent size prints in more serious materials than PLA and PETG.
It's just so BIG!
I'd try out a USB extension cable with a 90 degree bend on the male end to plug your thumb drive into to keep it out of the way.
You can fix the "bad print seen on the camera" issue by plugging the printer into a 20a smart outlet and just cut the power.
I know it's not really a great workaround, but I suppose you could use a smart plug that can be activated/deactivated via its app.
Looks like you got the previous model. I just got mine a couple weeks ago and they moved the USB port to the top and there isn’t a camera anymore.
Oh, ok. Good! I'm glad they fixed those issues. Is the USB port a little more protected on the top?
Great review. I learned a couple things even though I already have the printer 😊
After owning and completely rebuilding a Tronxy X5SA with the Chitu mainboard, seeing the Chitu brand by the camera made anxious. I would give this brand a hard NO after seeing that.
Great review!! But I too don't get how they call this fast with the v400, snapmaker j1 and bambu lab printers 🤔Crazy size that's for sure! I imagine this is not cheap and with that you only get ptfe lined hotend too? Just so they can sell the i-fast pro I guess! I think it would maybe be a bit more interesting if it was an idex like the snapmaker j1.
It comes with an all metal high temp hotend as well as the PTFE lined low temp one.
Given how much this printer costs, all the stuff you mentioned, especially chepo afterthought camera with no way of controlling the printer remotely is a big no-no for me. And since Qidi went out of their way so that Octoprint won't work with their printers, I'd have to say, hard pass. Bambu Labs X1C is just about half the price and it makes i-Fast look like fossil.
The ringing on the benchie is terrible. I would expect better acceleration and resonance calibration on an expensive 'industrial' printer like this. Great video however. I have owned (and sent back) a couple of Qidi printers - I was not impressed with them - although their support was fantastic.
This printer suffers from awful ringing which is unexpected considering the construction and that it isn't very fast.
masterclass in how to have a nice but negative review ;)
Great video but the print quality is subpar. The surface artifacts and ringing are awful. Trying to push that hotend setup fast is asking for a headache.
At roughly 3:42 - 3:46 in the video, it appears that the PTFE tubes are in direct contact with the brass nozzles. True? If so, that is a recipe for Teflon pyrolysis and offgassing, so no one should use that printer.
Hi Kevin, those PTFE-lined "spare parts" brass nozzles are for the standard temperature extruder assembly. Do you have a good link for information about PTFE outgassing? My usual rule of thumb to not exceed about 235˚C with a PTFE lined hot end. On the high-temperature extruder assembly that goes to 300˚C, they're using all-metal hot ends.
@@BV3D This source (www.fluoridealert.org/wp-content/pesticides/teflon.decomposition.prod.htm ) quotes published research indicating that “pyrolysis of Teflon starts at 200 degrees-C and proceeds slowly up to 420 degrees-C …” That corroborates what I’ve read from several other scientific sources. Somewhere in my massive stack of scientific papers is one quantitating the pyrolysis, which is indeed low at typical PLA printing temperatures (if you’d like, I will look for that paper and give you a link to it).
However, a low risk isn’t synonymous with no risk, especially with Teflon-type chemicals, notorious for their biological persistence: once in your body, they remain for many years, triggering numerous adverse health effects. My concern is amplified because 3-D printer users commonly have frequent exposure to fumes generated during printing, most of which have little or no detectable odor, lulling many users into a false sense of security.
However, additional published research shows that other seemingly benign PFAS sources, such as Teflon dental flosses, result in elevated levels in humans.
BTW, I apologize for the slow response but I’ve been sidetracked lately by a problem with a recent purchase: while attempting auto-leveling, my Creality Ender 3 S1 Plus crashes its nozzle into the build plate and tries to ram through it, visibly pushing the build plate down, then moves laterally, severely gouging the PEI surface. It does this every time I run auto-leveling in spite of preceding that with very careful assisted leveling using the usual piece of paper method. I have a lot of experience printing with my other 3-D printers (from Anycubic and Prusa), all of which have auto-leveling, but they did that so easily I never learned to troubleshoot problems when things go horribly wrong. I contacted Creality last week, spent several hours providing documentation (photos, video, text, proof of purchase, etc.) and still no help.
TWO-THOUSAND FOUR-HUNDRED NINETY-NINE DOLLARS and it doesn't have auto bed-leveling? And dual-extruder prints are mediocre? And it doesn't print any faster than a $200 printer? And it's glitchy AF? And the camera is nearly useless? And you didn't try printing ABS or other high-temp filaments despite a heated enclosure being one of the most prominent features of the printer?
Just curious: how much worse would a printer have to be, at this price point, for you to be unhappy with it?
It is an awful printer.
I fitted a chamber heater to my Qidi X-Pus, I also filled the gap in the top cover, I now have a borosilicate glass plate for when I print nylon (held by bull dog clips similar to the packaging ones supplied) and bought an extra low temp and high temp extruder because I change filament types so often (I also change nozzle sizes Mk10 M7 - 0.4, 0.6, 0.8 brass, brass ruby, S/.S hardened Steel), . I stuck a temp and humidity sensor to the inside of the polycarbonate top cover. I feed nylon (CF) and TPU from a heated filament box on top of the printer to protect against humidity. Qidi make some good printers and I'm very happy with mine. If you want to connect to it via Octoprint you have to connect to the control board with an USB lead. The USB port provided won't work. The QIDI Print Slicer works well and parts are readily available from Qidi Tech via AliExpress. These printers are very well built and the manual bed leveling isn't a problem and easy enough to do, providing you remember to bring the bed up to temperature before you do it (expansion of the thick bed will mess you up otherwise). The low temp extruder avoids jams by running its TPFE tubing deep into the nozzle, in the first instance I changed this to blue capricorn tubing, when I change out the nozzle. Since then I have had S/S inserts manufactured to replace the bit of TPFE tube actually within the nozzle up to the top of the nozzle, using the same technique allows me to use Ruby Brass nozzles in the High temp Extruder. The hardened Steel ones provided have their PTFE tubes stop at the top of the nozzle, that is the hole in the nozzle is 2mm for its entirety through the nozzle. Wifi to the Printer works well and is very convenient. The enclosure is big enough for some extras, heated chamber, recirculating carbon filter - in my case, not to mention a 1kg roll of filament if you want to (and you might want to printing nylon if you don't have a heated boxed filament dispenser. All of which refers to the Qidi X-Plus but it very much appears that there is a high degree to the similarity to parts used in their different models.
that plastic door with that weird font logo screams cheap to me
Right from the start it looks like I will need help just to unpack it. I am not the young and healthy anymore.
Lol, you sound like you are super happy about this printer... Ehhh...
I'm not UNhappy about the printer. But I wasn't happy about that weird layer shifting issue (though I _was_ happy it got resolved).
It's more than $600USD more expensive than an X1 Carbon, and lacking a ton of features. Yes, I know it has some features the Bambu Lab models lack, but I really don't understand how Qidi Tech can justify their price point.
Big chunky linear rails aren't cheap. They are overbuilt for their purpose and will be sliding long after bambu carbon rails are toast.
@@whiskeyinthejar24 But the linear rails and heavy build don't help, the X1C beats the I-Fast (actually no faster than and Ender 3) in both speed and quality by a considerable margin.
@@manchegocheese997 a lot of the speed is from software. Input shaping, pressure advance etc. The main board and software of the ifast is obsolete at this point. While the 1.6kg print head would definitely limit the ability and you would never get 500mm/s out of an ifast, I imagine a new mainboard and klipper would speed one up a lot. I wonder if Qidi will do something like that once they are finished launching the new x3 series.
@@manchegocheese997 people are already wearing out the carbon rails on printers that care getting a lot of use.
That thing is a regular piece of furniture!
QIDI DOES NOT HONOR WARRANTY.. QIDI I-FAST has high failure extruders. Either do not feed filament or plug up easily.
This is pretty disappointing considering the competition nowadays. Maybe the next version will be better.
Edit; Holy balls it's $2500. That makes it borderline offensive considering its performance yeeeesh
This review reminds me of a Chinese term I recently learned from Thomas Sanladerer: "chabuduo", which means "good enough", "almost," "nearly," or "not much off." The Chinese DO NOT have a perfectionist mentality as the Japanese or South Koreans do... it may be because the Communist system removes incentive to do a stellar job, as the free-market system does.
Sounds like this printer is a hard pass for most people.
It isn't intended for most people. It's a dual filament high temp workhorse. Specialised support material filaments tend to be very expensive and the bambu system wastes heaps of filament. The oversize linear rails should last way longer than the carbon rods in a bambu. A heated chamber is a huge advantage if you need it. Can you print ABS and ASA in a bambu? Sure. If they are large prints, you will have to leave the bed running for ages before you start your print and hope it doesn't warp. The ifast and newer Qidi printers you can just set the chamber temp.
I owned an i-fast for around 6 months and it is one of the worst things I have ever bought; it is a slow lumbering oaf of a machine. I never got a decent quality print from it in any material and it was far from fast. I sold the I-fast and bought a Bambu Lab X1C and I couldn't be happier with the performance.
Hi Bryan, search on Amazon for this exact Sandisk 32GB drive. I use this all day, many times a day without issue on my ifast.
SanDisk 32GB Cruzer Fit USB 2.0 Flash Drive - SDCZ33-032G-G35
QIDI I-FAST has high failure extruders. Either do not feed filament or plug up easily. QIDI DOES NOT HONOR WARRANTY.