Ground School:5 Different Ways To Call Approach Control | VFR Radio Communications
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2024
- This is a nice quick video of 5 different ways you can go about contacting approach control. The basic will stay the same, who you are calling, who you are, where you are, and what you want to do; however the responses you get from the controller may differ slightly each time. This video is a good way to start training your ears for what to listen to when making your first contact with approach.
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I’d watch easily 1h of a video like these. Super good to train the ear for when talking to ATC
Very good information. Just started training so I kind of wish he would talk so fast or at least put captions of the communication so that its easier to understand and follow.
Watched it again. I actually studied from this video; pausing, rewinding, repeating what was heard, etc... Amazing! Liked and subscribed. Thank you😊
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This was great... it’s always that first contact with control that seems to make me nervous... once I’m established with tower or center with flight following I’m fine... could you do one where you need to land at a non towered field while on flight following (say a fuel stop) and then get back on with center / TRSA after taking off again? Like on your solo Tri leg x country.
Very freaking informative! Thank you very much. Great clip to study 👍
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“Well, lets make it us.” ...Classic! 😂
Always great instruction-thanks!
Glad it helps! Safe Flying!
Very interesting to see the different responses from the controllers base on the various situations. Thanks for sharing :)
Thanks! Safe Flying!
Why do you fly from the right seat even when flying alone? Curious……
Really useful. Thanks!
Thanks John
Very nice video! It's helped me a lot and it was also posted on my birthday!
Glad it helps! Be sure to share us with your friends on FB and around the airport!
"In the box"?????!!!!!!!! OMG, pilot slang. I expected better from you!
So what dude ppl like u are so annoying and arrogant
@@Aziz_76 Not really, it's pointing out a bad habit that shouldn't carry through to instruction.
@@sakumisan how is that a bad habit he says in the box its literally a box too bruh, like he didnt say fuck you tower he just said in the box idk why ppl gets upset for such normal word screw pilots ignorant
@@Aziz_76 Nobody is like seriously upset but it's just a bad habit for an instructor to use non-standard phraseology.
I'm about to start PPL training and this has made me very nervous. You talk so fast.
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Don't you have to read back the altimeter setting?
what if your departure airport is right on the outer edge of a class Bravo airspace? how can i get clearance into the airspace before departing? (departing F46 next Dallas airspace)
Another fantastic video liked and shared - As always they have a clear purpose with detailed explanations. However, despite your obvious ability to communicate the correct Phraseology, this video concerns me, you seem to do what many skilled and confident pilots do, you talk too fast. May I suggest you consider other possible traffic, remember you’ are not just talking to ATC. There may just be a student up there soloing for the first time or a newly qualified PPL - slow it down for the benefit of others out there, let’s keep those sky’s a safe place to be. 👍🏻 great video, keep them coming!!
Fantastic video. I'm currently getting acclimated to ATC with VATSIM and building funds to earn my private license in the real sky within a year or two. Have done quite a bit of IFR (in sim) but when it comes to VFR I've been trying to learn more about how to better navigate/communicate with ATC. For example, one of my biggest weaknesses is understanding how to know my approximate distances from airfields when I'm VFR and don't have any fixes to reference for distance. Do you have any videos that cover that at all? Or can you point me in the right direction? I get the impression that it is based 100% on familiarity with an area that I'm flying. But that concept baffles me as I can't imagine private pilots always flying in areas they are very familiar with. There's a first time for every destination. lol
Any advice you can give would be greatly appreciated.
Hello, I'm currently a student pilot. That's something that baffled me too before I started out. I couldn't figure out how pilots could just eyeball distances VFR so easily when making position reports on the CTAF. Turns out it's a couple of things: If you're familiar with the area it is fairly easy to judge distances with practice (this doesn't work in flight sims since there is no depth perception). Besides that though, pretty much every aircraft nowadays has some form of GPS (even the 1970's Cessna 150 I train in has retrofit Garmin displays), and if there is no GPS installed most pilots will use their iPad with Foreflight. In any case all you need to do is select "direct to (your airfield)" on the GPS and it will give you a very accurate distance to the airfield. Just read your distance off the device. I don't know anyone that still uses an VFR nav log and stopwatch as their principle means of navigation, its an important skill to learn but practically speaking all pilots now navigate with GPS if they're flying cross-country into unfamiliar areas.
Very informative, subscribed! 👍👍
Glad it helps! Fly Safe!
Are you domiciled at Venice or Sarasota? Great video’s Jon!
Wish he would act like an aspiring pilot instead of a showoff. Like, LOOK at me. WOW.
"in the box" = 3 words and many consider this unprofessional and a cluttering of ATC time. "squawk" = 1 word, less time consumed. noted you called back one other time with neither. That is actually more acceptable than in the box.
For everyone saying it sounds fast... it’s because you are not familiar with the format and anticipating what each side will say.
Besides - you can always ask: 'Speak Slower'
The regulations state that the communication should be no faster than 100 words/minute.
The pilot here is doing about 150 words/minute. But in practice that is OK. There seems to be no problem at digesting the information at either end - and this way his communication takes up shorter time slices of the frequency.
Super !
I think you're good pilot, an okay instructor, and an obnoxious human!
Do you have information Golf of Gulf?
Wanting to get pilots license and trying to learn as much as I can. What do you mean by "with information gulf". Heard somebody else in a different video say they had "information whiskey", but there is obviously something I am missing.
It should be spelled "Golf" but it's the letter of the current ATIS broadcast. Wikipedia has a thorough explanation of ATIS.
Before you contact tower you listen to the ATIS = weather report from that airport, which changes every hour and is identified by a letter A next hour B next hour C and so on..
When you call tower you tell them you have information A or B or whatever the letter to let them know you have listened to the weather report and know what weather to expect.
No qnh read back on that last communication?
How to practice to listen to ATC's fast speaking speed? especially for the international students?
I use this: chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/video-speed-controller/nffaoalbilbmmfgbnbgppjihopabppdk?hl=en
Shawn - for real world practice listening to ATC, try LiveATC.net.
Ed Eastburn I was just going to recommend that. I sometimes drive out to a smaller airport and spin up Live ATC as I watch the ground ops.
Can you leave out “in the box.” 😫
He does that on all of the videos; it's definitely a bad habit.
@@sakumisan my CFII who's been around the world both the commercial and private side says that. Ppl need to calm down. Before ifr I thought it was a huge deal when pilots used "with you" I literally hear every airliner say that and I fly under class C,B
@@AssyrianKing4ever When instructing it is just best to use standard phraseology and not slang - no reason to seed a bad habit early on.
ARE "TRACON" AND APPROACH CONTROL THE SAME THING? THANK YOU
Cristóbal Lozano yes TRACON stands for terminal radar approach control
Totally not being a (bad word) here. But I'm going through ground school now, and I work with the airforce for a living. One thing I've never understood, is just Why the Hell does Pilots talk as FAST as Fing Possible. Its totally not necessary and it only leads to confusion. I talk on a radio all day long, and people that do this speed talking BS get the same response every time... " Say Again; Did Not Receive your Last" thereby taking more time and rendering the "Transmittal of Information as quickly as possible" completely non-effective. ATC and others are gonna hate my rear-end...my unofficial call-sign is gonna be, "Say Again". lol. I literally had to pause the vid, and play back at .75 speed just to understand... I just dont get it
"congestion at larger airports yadda yadda" I've heard the reasons why, but when you speak like this, it can lead very dangerous situations. In my educated (with a lack of experience I admit) opinion, its far better to be effective than sounding like a speed-talking "Professional" I overheard a IP telling a new Airforce student this on his initial flight.
That is one of my main pet peeves too. for GA pilots to talk unnecessarily fast is nothing but other than wanna be much cooler than they actually are.The whole point of communication is to warn the other traffic around you of your existence and intensions. I don't mind if a GA pilot talking to ATC as fast as he does BUT if you're doing this even for an educational video purposes then slow down a tiny bit for F%^& sake!!! How the students who need this info will easily understand what the heck you're saying. These kind of videos are not designed and aimed for ATP class aviators... Also using a phrase like "in the box" instead of squawk and then I noticed the attitude on the first part of the video with "I am too cool for a seatbelt" and the motormouth speech gives only one impression to every student or newbie pilot which is: "Neeeext"...
I am NOT saying he is a bad pilot! He may be great pilot with tons of knowledge. But knowing something very well and be able to teach it very well is two completely different things. IMHO if this is his style then I say he may be a good pilot, but definitely a bad CFI...
Going to be honest here, being a pilot we all know that we need to talk fast to get things accomplished, but I think this is taking it to an extreme. Your at the point where no one really understands you and it just becomes a nuisance because ATC really has to focus on your speaking.
Believe it or not this is a pretty normal pace for most controllers / pilots. Its not slow, but certainly not as fast as it gets when the frequency is getting busy and everyone needs instructions / requests FAST! As you fly more, getting a faster ear will help for those times when you really need it (especially in the northeast US!) :)
I'm trying to get back into flying after being away from it for 37 years at controlled airports in the Denver area. some controllers speak so fast that they're unintelligible to me; I'm having to drive a long way to a less busy tower to get my ears used to the commands and speed that they're issued. Definitely not comfortable yet with tower comm/
the 28 dislikes got a number to call from tower
Lol
how much would u charge me to fly along
Wonder why he always flies from the right seat
thats where the instructor usually sits ???
yeah,why on the right seat?
So you can see whats going on on the left side
... in the box????... sry, thats...
I think he's talking about the transponder
Why do you talks so fast?
Just depends on frequency congestion, of course if there's time you can always slow down, and you can always ask a controller to slow down, however when able, I like to leave the frequency open for other pilots to use. At some airports in the country, it does unfortunately become a necessity to speak quickly.
Just wondering, why do prefer right seat?
Just to stay out of the way of the camera view for the left seat so you can see the instruments and controls moving.
Too much coffee
number one is too confusing.. just talk to atc and not all the other bull.
As someone who is an outsider but professionally interested in radio, communications, hearing, aviation and procedures and protocols in flying, I'm stunned by the poor quality of aviation radio signals and the lack of intelligibility of many of the spoken transmissions, especially considering the high risks associated with mis-communications. IMHO, the lack of evolution to higher quality in this area seems remarkably out of sync with the rest of the technical world.
And what specific system do you propose would be better?
Thanks for your reply. Frankly, and it's only MHO of course, I'm afraid it may be so broken on so many levels that it is beyond fixing. I suspect that's why it has been allowed to continue the way it is for so long. That, and perhaps financial/business considerations.
Flying with the military for the last 10 years the communication seemed pretty standard. As an outsider, you would think these radio calls are weird, different, etc... But as a regular flyer, they are not.
There are better technical solutions. But as someone in-sync with the technical world, you'll well aware of the "installed base" or "legacy" issue. If you wanted to change the standard communication tool, you'd have to replace equipment on every aircraft and ground facility in the entire world in a managed rollout. And re-build training and re-train all operators. Unlike modern electronics with lifespans measured in months or a few years, aircraft can remain in use indefinitely.
To bad we tower can't text there intructions
*GOLF lol
Not good advice. You talk too much and too fast.
Also many non standard phraseology. SAD!